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This is one of my Ambient Noise tracks. It's called "Haunting Wind", & it's from my Album "Afraid Of Silence". The music is inspired by the Artist Tim Hecker. Although the track is from 2006, I wanted to post it here on FriendFeed too
koleksiyoner, Ali Oz, Kevin Fox and 20 other people liked this
When I posted this on KvR forums in 2006 I've got a huge amount of comments that lead to a record deal with the Label Databloem Records.
- Svartling
Sadly though I only got one track on a compilation album. My full length album was never released. Read more about it here: http://making-music.blogspot.com/2006...
- Svartling
Tim Hecker's great. I'll have to give this a listen. I'm also a big fan of Fennesz and William Basinski.
- Akiva
I love Fennesz too! Then you have to listen to my track "Afraid Of Silence" too :) It is inspired by Fennesz.
- Svartling
I will post Afraid of silence later here on friendfeed too. I think Friendfeed is great for posting music on :)
- Svartling
How do I post an image with audio like this? Love it!
- Michael Fidler
Just click on the links "photos" and "files" respectively, and browse for your files. Very easy.
- Svartling
Very interesting music :) - I would like to re-share it but your entry is quite long and I cannot add your name to it :(
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Can't you edit my entry and repost it. Please?
- Svartling
For example remove the line "Although the track is from 2006, I wanted to post it here on FriendFeed too"
- Svartling
Of course, I can :) - I would not do it without permission though! Will re-share in a sec.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
You have my full permission :)
- Svartling
Oh.. and thank you for your comment about my music :)
- Svartling
Thank you :D - and - done!
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Thanks, I've wanted to do it for ages. Can it be done from online sources as well?
- Michael Fidler
Only photos. Not files I think.
- Svartling
This...is freaking awesome
- Mo Kargas
Thank you! :) I will post some other tracks later :)
- Svartling
Perfect background track for the 3D space scene I'm modeling right now, excellent work Svartling
- Mo Kargas
You can use it if you tell the world it's me who made the music :)
- Svartling
Of course, I will :) ( I mean - I will try to tell my friends of your music :)
- Hanna Wiszniewska
The sonic structure of my sound is somewhat destroyed by the low compression though (128 kbit/s). It sounds a lot better uncompressed.
- Svartling
But don't get me wrong, the noise should be there :)
- Svartling
To hear all the sonic noise I want you to hear you must use headphones. My music is headphones essential! :)
- Svartling
I made this track with audio only in Ableton Live. I have not used any MIDI at all.
- Svartling
I worked with the envelopes for weeks. I wanted every mili-second to sound exactly as I wanted.
- Svartling
I've released all my tracks for free to download. You can use it or play it on some radio channel if you want, but you must always refer to me when you do. I will post more tracks here on friendfeed from time to time.
- Svartling
This picture (album cover) for my album "Afraid of silence", is actually made for my track called "Black Rain", but I thought it would fit for my music style on this album too.
- Svartling
Here is track two - Afraid Of Silence: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
Bump
- Svartling
Bump again :)
- Svartling
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- koleksiyoner
USAir plane lands in the Hudson River
urdumania1, ☆彡Jazzy-B, Turkish Delight and 43 other people liked this
But I only learned about this from Thomas Hawk first because of reverse chronological posting. ;-) Had I been reading in the order posted, Kevin Fox would have been my "news source."
- michael silverton
bump.
- Mona Nomura
You know someone somewhere caught it on video. I expect it by this evening, as soon as they find an agent.
- Kevin Fox
currently 21F in NYC. brr.
- ⓞnor
Amazing rescue. Wow.
- Jim Mitchem
Someone took a picture from the ferry http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mona Nomura
Is there anyway i can mark this as "i don't like this" i feel guilty marking this news as "i like this.
- Adam Jackson
How about just change "Like" to "Bump"?
- Roshan Vyas
Definitely feel bad about "Liking" this. Bump suggestion is good
- mashable
Launched this around my office, and people are suprised about me knowing this already.
- Stephen Lecheler
I think "Like" should be "highlight" instead.
- Richard Lawler
Behold the power of live journalisim. Just got a huge burst of data from Scoble about the plane crash in New York.
- Stephen Lecheler
That Twitpic picture made it on MSNBC and CNN wild.
- Mona Nomura
suyun üzerine düşmesi büyük şans kimse ölmemiş. hatta tv den gördüm az önce bir vatandaş sevinçle çıkıyordu uçaktan.
- Volkan Yılmaz
I found out about this and the Steve Jobs news via Twitter. Change is happening...
- Louis Gray
Crossposted: This is "augmented social cognition" in everyday action -- moniter, moniter, signal spike, relay, relay, process, relay, react, involve, resolve, reset. Rudimentary, yes, but worthy of closer research! http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- michael silverton
Hudson river plane crash nyc - sources, all collection up to date, now krunch'd at http://krunchd.com/hudsonplane
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Waiting at PHL for the first US Air flight I've taken in a long time. I'm glad everyone is ok. I was relieved to hear the evacuation was orderly and hope ppl take this as a reminder that once and a while you should actually read the instructions for the emergency exit.
- Sarah Miller
Michael, good point on "source" How news gets propagated from now on is going to get very interesting analytically.
- Melanie Reed
The path that got me the news on this oddly was having TwitterGadget open in Gmail: CNN BreakingNews pushes it to my Desktop slightly faster than NTARC twitters it in my TwitterGadget window. I immediately tweet to my followers and then go to check FF
- Melanie Reed
macro- blogsearch has in general 270 macro blogs on this story ; compared with maybe 100.000 twitters on this, extremely slow as expected ; btw, coincidence that google took down 4 of their services today??? maybe they needed new server space for * this* [did google/nasa crash the hudson plane ?? [cp 2.o theory]...
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- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Micah, put it in the Spam Group.
- Rochelle
Dealt with. (My first thought was 'oh crap, another jet landed in the Hudson??')
- Kevin Fox
Yeah, I was kind of psyched out too, Kevin. Rochelle, I'm now subscribed - thank you both.
- Micah
I am from Turkey. :)
- Cihan Özbek
Kevin, are you talking about the ewing2001akaNicomedy2010 account? I'm still seeing it.
- Rochelle
It's not actually spam. Read the comment: it's on topic. The rest of the account isn't spammy either.
- Akiva
No, we weren't talking about ewing2001. There was a spammer (username suatuigamala) leaving commentspam in the post. It's an unfortunate artifact that Micah's calling-out now points to an innocent commenter after the spam was removed. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Ga Ga Google Twins
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Zu from AOD, Zihni Babuz, Oguz Serdar and 97 other people liked this
These and more were in an e-mail I got from my wife the second I got in to work. Too much fun!
- Louis Gray
Your poor kids...when they grow up and find out how you sold them out they might exact revenge! Or they'll just be the coolest kids ever.
- Josh Haley
totally renaming you Louis Gray, Mommyblogger. lol
- Erin @queenofspain
Cute kids.
- DB Botts - Just DB Botts
Should be default Google Image result when searching for "twins" :)
- Mark Krynsky
@Erin, that would be awesome. :-)
- Louis Gray
@Louis, is your wife aware of this? http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mark Krynsky
That is cute, love the hats!
- Sally Church
Yes, but do you have the LouisGray.com onesies??? - http://jessestay.smugmug.com/gallery...
- Jesse Stay
Haha Nice Photos - To Google Forever hah.
- Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
most adorable SERPs ever!
- sean percival
@Mark, she certainly has seen it now! Thanks a lot. :-)
- Louis Gray
awesome * 2 !
- Mattb4rd
Is that the latest from Google Labs?? Babies delivered by email? Great no more morning sickness, and mood swings! I'm sure it's still in beta...
- Daan
The expression on Matthew's face in the 3rd pic! (At least, I *think* that's Matthew.)
- Yolanda
=D
- David Cook
These twin-geeks have played all web yet.:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
My favorite baby geeks!
- Daynah
hey these cuties showed up again! :)
- Susan Beebe
ha! love it!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
These are architected to resurface every three weeks. It's a feature, not a bug.
- Louis Gray
babypimping.com - the way to beat the economy slowing! HAAH
- Allen Stern
with kids this cute you know louis is "Feeling Lucky" ohhhhhhh bad joke alert!
- sean percival
got to be the cutest babies i have ever seen. id love a hat and all-in-one like that :D
- ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
So should I get a third outfit or make the newbie wear hand me downs?
- Louis Gray
If I were the newb, I'd be all over the hmds!
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
刚从大连回来，就发现Friendfeed被墙:( 翻墙过来先上两张图片，献给各位Friendfeed上的朋友，也献给Friendfeed，大家一起战斗，#fuckgfw
Jing ®, yisn, adf and 39 other people liked this
第一张让我想起了经典的六人行
- R093r-
金石滩?
- ThenWang
棒槌岛海边，今天海水蛮冷。
- K.D.
我到现在还不敢相信这是真的……早上还到处说，早就给盯上了，要封早就封了……
- yagami
那两天过来的就是无毛，我封的都晚了，他们是来做最后的验证的。
- xia
问题是这上面的东西，连很多新闻网站回复的一半都不及，哪有那么敏感……
- yagami
没有人知道原因，抱着侥幸的心理，是不是gfw间歇性抽搐？
- K.D.
GFW不会错的，没有主观指使，不会抽风到封掉无辜的网站
- yagami
ff已经非常收敛了，只有讨论，没有媒体大声广播，不知道碰到gfw哪根筋了？
- K.D.
他们冠冕堂皇地说你这是恐怖分子交流的渠道，你就没有办法。
- yagami
因为这里聚集了一堆，对裆部不满的人
- R093r-
"啊,您在克格勃具体干什么?" "我们负责揪出那些对国家不满的家伙" "您的意思是….还有人比较满意?" "这些人不归我们管.管他们的是纪委"
- Baiyssy
为了不折腾，强烈要求一刀剪断海底光缆
- kelvin
这样确实阻碍了优秀的服务传到国内，要说ff对裆部真的有什么“危害”，大概也就是“言论自由”这一码子事了，friendfeed本质上是一个朋友之间分享内容，互相交流的地方...
- K.D.
强烈要求所有主干网出口必须通过链接朝鲜internet网实现国际联通，减少GFW技术上的难题和经费的不足。
- kelvin
主要这些网站都不归他们控制，他们没法去服务器机房做文章。只能用GFW了，这不是GFW的职责所在吗？
- R093r-
墙了也好 墙了就不用再担心哪天会被墙了
- Newton
减少了信息过量带来的思想负担
- kelvin
今天晚上21:50分许,鑫诺三号卫星(125.0°E)转发器发生故障,国内部分区域的有线电视用户出现黑屏与错误讯息.http://www.cnbeta.com/article...
- kelvin
一个刚上来两天，建立了一个手工小组，马上成了光杆司令的大妈上来留个脚印。
- Carloe Stamp
ls不要泄气，经常上来关注翻墙的方法更新，和gfw最新tm的动态，相信ff中文群组会有光复的一天：）
- K.D.
玩FF的不会翻墙的很少了吧？
- R093r-
是这样，不过封了对新用户加入，以及一些正常的活动都有阻碍，最关键的是可能大家心理上对ff这样优秀的服务被墙难以接受，把无辜的人们变成被“孤立”的群体，这是无理的！
- K.D.
大家心理上对ff这样优秀的服务被墙难以接受，把无辜的人们变成被“孤立”的群体，这是无理的！ <------说得太好了
- yagami
经历重重障碍上来看到这个图，我是泪流满脸，百感交集，苦中作乐，乐不思蜀啊
- 疯狂的糯米
喜欢第一张的人体三脚架
- 我是真砂！
不能屈服，不能让它们得逞
- K.D.
呵呵，那我们就在有限的范围内，找到更多的“正常”访问/使用ff的方法
- K.D.
我甚至觉得可以基于第二张图片做出一个FF主题了，感觉非常漂亮啊
- Rat2
早上打开gmail，gmail chat里收到ff上的更新，还以为ff解封了，结果上ff发现还是要翻墙。看来除了翻墙、fftogo，也可以用邮件访问、使用ff，我们不会屈服于一堵破墙。
- abe
@abe 除了翻墙，其它好的访问方法我们在google群组里讨论/分享：） @Rat2 | Ratoo 要大图的话DM我：）
- K.D.
OK，Rat2:) btw，我以为你知道怎么做主题：））0
- K.D.
@K.D. 明白:)
- abe
很漂亮，很漂亮:-)
- yezi
呃
- K.D.
哼
- 我是真砂！
K.D最近干吗了？
- 硕少
靠驾照吧。
- Aang
FriendFeed User Locations - Google Shared Map (4 days & 75 users later) - http://maps.google.com/maps...
funbuzz, ilovo, Wulffy and 126 other people liked this
A smashing success! Thanks to everyone who has participated. This is very cool. If you haven't yet, go ahead and do so. Original post here http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mark Krynsky
Added. Surely I'm not the only FF'er in Africa?
- Neill Adamson
@Neill, that's great. You just got us to the 6th continent. I highly doubt we can hit 7 as there surely can't be someone from Antarctica that FriendFeeds.
- Mark Krynsky
The Antarctica challenge: OK, here's the plan: we need to contact Eli Duke (http://twitter.com/elisfanclub) he's tweeting from McMurdo Station, Antarctica. We have until February (some background I just found: on his 1st stint in the Antarctic he was a dish washer. In 2006 he wrote a functioning RubyOn Rails site, got burned out and tried to give it away on Craig's List...unsuccessfully--it's back online now http://listyourlist.com/ . McMurdo Photo: http://is.gd/8Ltk)
- Micah
I reshared to the Translation room to help boost your international participation.
- Shannon Jiménez
nah, friendfeed isn't a niche play. it's got dozens of users! ;)
- Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: you are such a comedian!
- Robert Scoble
Alrighty then, I just sent Eli a tweet (http://friendfeed.com/e... ) with a plea. I hope I'm not taken for a crazy. Hmm, I know that could be my first reaction.
- Micah
@Robert: caught up with an old buddy over a cigar, bottle of wine, and a few glasses of quality bourbon. and i have to be up at 6. so i'm having fun. ;) sorry we didn't get to catch up more at the 12seconds/uservoice party!
- Jeremy Toeman
WTF!!! Nobody from India... ??? Am I the only one..:)
- Devakishor
Well I was late to this party. Great idea Mark. I have all of New Zealand to myself!
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Turkey is on it must be. Anyhow, and Anyway, they'll be more Balloons One Day All Around Our World, BTW Thats a Great Daft Punk Track ain't it ;-D, Shall We Play it, and what Room shall we doeth Such? It Big enough for All. That is All. Time For Work Now, See You Laters, FriendFeed and Have A Nice But Try Not To Be too naughty Day. :))
- Jason
Reshared in my feed!
- Flavio
Ditto.
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow... I am the only person in VA. I expected a lot more people around DC.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
Ah... Aram, I'm in Virginia Beach, but I don't think it added me properly.
- Ladyepiphanybug
we have someone in the middle of the Atlantic
- Alejandro
How did I miss this? Off to add my pin!
- FFing Enigma
same here! Ok just added mine a while ago (Irondequoit Bay near Rochester, NY)... look for sailboat!
- Susan Beebe
Pin added. Great idea!
- James Ferguson
2nd pin added in Italy!
- Alessandro
Pin and 1m snow added in Helsinki. Great idea!
- udo
pin added at OHSU in Portland, Oregon
- Maureen
+1 pin at Debrecen, Hungary
- Berci Mesko, MD
Why is Erhan Erdogan in the middle of the atlantic ocean on the map? Is he in the Bermuda Triangle or something? lol
- Alan Le
@Micah, great job on recruitment. Eli has added himself and we now have all 7 continents filled.
- Mark Krynsky
Erhan probably got moved accidentally. When I got to the page, and was moving the map, I accidently grabbed someone and moved them to the middle of the Atlantic. Thankfully, it was someone who used a special icon, so it was easy to search and put them back.
- Anika
I put my self on the map...
- Aline
Added, in the Norway. :)
- Daniel Bruce
Added me in Texas!
- Phil Glockner
Added myself in the west Chicago suburbs. :)
- Cheryl Jones
@Mark Such Coolness! And thanks Eli (http://friendfeed.com/elisfan...)
- Micah
Bump for Leather Donut.
- Rochelle
Hmm, apparently I'm just up the road from Haggis.
- Rob H.
I just added myself. Curious - how do you get different placemarks? I like the Google-looking ones that aren't quite raindrops.
- Tamar Weinberg
Just an addendum to Spidra's explanation: To go back and edit, click the pushpin then click the "Edit" button (look waaay to the left on the page). Then you can click the icon to change, and you'll see Save button next to "Edit"
- Micah
Oh cool. Nice job reviving this guys. Hopefully we get another good round of users to add themselves.
- Mark Krynsky
Added! :)
- AJ Batac :)
Wow Jess. That must be so great to see your work utilized by others. It's definitely been a smashing success here. Thanks for sharing.
- Mark Krynsky
+Jess!
- Micah
Kind of frustrating to see how much time I spent on this map and then to find out someone had probably saved their changes over mine - hence mine was gone this entire time. Others should also check for this. In any event, thanks, Spidra, for the tip :) My other pet peeve is Google Maps scrolling incessantly out of nowhere. (Hi Jess.)
- Tamar Weinberg
Added myself yesterday. I notice, thought, that you have to flip to page 2 ... Can't we show all the FFers on one map, regardless of the page ?
- Ahsan Ali
How do I get myself added to the map?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
done
- Eric Reboisson
@Alex Scoble click the link in the main post, search your location, and add a placemark (the blue mark on left top of the map)
- Eric Reboisson
done
- Orsan Erksoy
bump...
- Bren
double bump.
- Mark Krynsky
Taylorsville, UT
- Jesse Stay
Yo Derrick...almost time to move your pushpin eh?
- Mark Krynsky
Yes indeed, Mark. :)
- Derrick
That's very cool. Just added myself. I thought there were more of us in South America.
- Juan Pablo González
Neat. Added myself.
- Otto
Pics!!
Louis Gray, Jenny R, Scoble, Alex Scoble and 77 other people liked this
Perfect
- Johnny
Pardon me, but, that is fucking awesome!
- Yolanda
OMGOMGOMG!
- Ayşe E.
<3!!!
- Penguin
LOVE IT!!!
- holly #ravingfangirl
Very nice.
- Anika
YAY!!!
- LB shining
Most excellent!
- vicster
FANTASTIC.
- Que Sarah Sarah
Hope it's going fabulous!!!
- Katy S
Very happy to see this :) I know it's a great feeling.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Awesome! Congrats! :D
- Rochelle
Congrats D!!!!
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Thanks everyone. I couldn't have asked for a better turnout. The space was awesome, had some FF love from Jason Toney, Melissa, Anna Lynn, and a surprise visit from Anna Haro! But seriously, you were all there in spirit.
- Derrick
B-e-a utiful. Well done sir.
- SAM
(has that bed been tested out?)
- Brent
Wow, that looks awesome, Derrick! Wish I could have been there!
- Carmen wBabby
Sorry I missed all the excitement - many congratulations to you, D!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Giving this post a big old BUMP. A very good friend of mine has given me a serious challenge to begin a photography project and have it shown in a gallery by this time next year. He told me to 'sack up and stop hiding'. I just started a project book and stapled a print out of this thread to the inside cover. Not because I aim to mirror the content or style, it's to nudge me every time I...
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- Johnny
DO IT, Johnny. Make us proud. I'm, uh...right behind you.
- Derrick
<3
- Johnny
I love a good bump! ;) Go Johnny!
- Que Sarah Sarah
Eames® Molded Plywood Lounge Chair - http://www.dwr.com/product...
Soup in a TARDIS, Just Katie, Kevin Johnson and 5 other people liked this
"The Eames Molded Plywood Lounge Chair (1946) has been referred to as the "most famous chair of the century," with a low-slung form that relates directly to the human body and holds no secrets as to how it succeeds technically. This original is an authentic, fully licensed product of Herman Miller, Inc.
- Derrick
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heartofgold - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
shamim, Wulfmansworld, Wulffy and 21 other people liked this
ای جونم مهدی! محشره این
- Moghamer
کم پیدایی مقامر جان دلم برای کامنتهات تنگ شده بود :)
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
ای فدای تو مهدی جون! خیلی با مرامی! دلتنگ بودم
- Moghamer
مخلصم مقامر جونم
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
I love Dresden <3<3<3
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
Daviid, Have you been there?
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
Yes, several times.
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
Today is FriendFeed's "Subscribe Sunday" - http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs...
Jimminy, CoG of FF, Zu from AOD, Slavomira Vladimirova and 39 other people liked this
Thanks goes to the combination of Alfredo (http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...), vijay (http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt and Praveen (http://friendfeed.com/praveen...). Thank you very much guys. I can assure everyone they should be very grateful to these guys as you wouldn't have wanted any logo I made as I'm awful at creating them. Find out more about FF-Subscribe Sunday here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs...
- Kol Tregaskes
My boys!
- Shevonne
err my name :p
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
@Alredo Whats wrong with your name?
- Shevonne
missing an f
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Oops, corrected. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
thanks
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
@Alfredo I KNOWWWWW hahahahah
- Shevonne
:)
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
I need to check my posts more, I'm terrible at it. Ask Manuela. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol doesn't matter. We all knew who "Alredo" was. I do the same. I always screw up my spelling on here
- Shevonne
It's ok, Klo.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Shevonne, hehe. :-) Thanks Bce. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The Green Cross Society ? :) perhaps bevel it to make it look like a button, eh ?
- Ahsan Ali
Haha. Shevonne is back if we haven't noticed. :P
- Amani
Hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool logo. It doesn't represent "Sunday", though.
- LouCypher
I like it. What would you change about it, Lou?
- Kol Tregaskes
And a quick reminder about FF Subscribe Sunday, why not join in: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs...
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool - I like that, so who are we subscribing to on sunday?
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Red letters on white perhaps, or picture of the sun.
- LouCypher
Lou, cool idea! I'll speak to the designer. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Dan, check the group's description. Basically it's like Twitter's followfriday but for FriendFeed. Pick someone from FF you want to recommend and follow the guidelines on the group.
- Kol Tregaskes
Bumped as a reminder for today. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Nice icon!
- Just Katie
Thanks, Katie, it came from a combination of vijay, Alfredo and Praveen.
- Kol Tregaskes
It's that time again, folks! :-) My FF-SS this week is Nicola: http://ff.im/2KDUY, who is yours?
- Kol Tregaskes
Here's a good list of people to follow and promote if you're stuck for ideas: http://ff.im/3pIES
- Kol Tregaskes
Just a suggestion but if you add "_GG72" to your FF-SS tweets they will then appear here: http://ftags.com/GG72
- Kol Tregaskes
Bumping for today.
- Kol Tregaskes
New name and new guidelines, check the post here: http://ff.im/4MXRD
- Kol Tregaskes
This is now called FollowFriday (well for the moment anyway). Please recommend a fellow FriendFeeder that we should follow. Mine is Rochelle here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-foll...
- Kol Tregaskes
Heh, but it's Friday today! ;)
- Tyson Key
Yeah's I'm trying a new name. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
And a new day. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bumping as it was mentioned recently. Should this is Sunday, Friday or what day?
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget to promote your fellow FriendFeeders.
- Kol Tregaskes
Antonio Vivaldi - Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
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"Antonio Lucio Vivaldi (March 4, 1678 – July 28, 1741),[1] nicknamed il Prete Rosso ("The Red Priest"), was a Baroque music composer and Venetian priest, as well as a famous virtuoso violinist, born and raised in the Republic of Venice. The Four Seasons, a series of four violin concerti, is his best-known work and a highly popular Baroque piece."
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Lady and Bird - Not going anywhere / Filtre kahve zamanı
Dee @ Holycool.net, erspek, dorothy and 4 other people liked this
What do you mean there's no more football??
Roberto Bonini, Vicarbott, Marissa and 109 other people liked this
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- Shey
Best. Pic. Ever.
- Derrick
Hey Shey NBA!!!!
- bcultral
Bob? SpongeBob? :/
- directeur
AWESOME! Oh man...I can't stop laughing. Just brilliant.
- Anika
:D
- Manuela
Go long!
- Josh Haley
I'd respect you more, if you weren't wearing that ridiculous-looking hat. [/Bears fan]
- Steven Perez
You've got arena football, and the UFL on deck....football-lite, sure, but better than nothing bruh!
- .LAG liked that
Welcome to NCAA Basketball and March Madness. It consumes me.
- Mike Nayyar
I don't know what you're talking about. Combines are this week, the draft is in April, and there's plenty to keep your cheesehead high about.
- Pete D
If you get NFL Network on cable, they do replay games from the season every night
- .LAG liked that
NOT THE SAME.
- Steven Perez
I know, but it's better than nothing...especially in HD!
- .LAG liked that
We had arena league season ticks but that folded. So nothing.
- Todd Hoff
@Todd...oh, yeah, that's right, I forgot about arena football going on hiatus for at least one season. is nothing sacred in this economy?
- .LAG liked that
Northing. We are on the border of the profane.
- Todd Hoff
I agree with Steven, not the same. Sorry tho Mr Perez, GO PACKERS!!
- Shey
ROFLMAO! love this pic!
- vijay
HAHAHAHAHAHA
- Anna Haro
there is... :-p
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Yes, sad times right now.. LOL
- Sean
hahahahaha - that's brilliant :)
- Zee.
best_photo_evar
- Mattb4rd
Wow
- orionstarr
@Mohomed.Genieyclo.Gatsby BOOOO to you and your Vikings! I can't believe they won the North. *vom*
- Shey
Hey Shey, you pinched ma hat?!
- Sally Church
@Sally It's totally official, straight from Green Bay!
- Shey
I knew you were a cheeseheads
- orionstarr
This has to be the best friendfeed face ever. I feel sorry for you, Shey, but hey on the bright side, Formula One is about to kick off again soon.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
My husband sports that same face every year too. Epic photo Shey! :D
- Carmen wBabby
lol
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Bumping for the silly hat meme.
- Shey
So awesome.
- Akiva
And football's almost ready to start again.
- John (bird whisperer)
Bumping cause there's no more football would have been good too :)
- Mark Krynsky
One more month to go.
- Joel Robert Perez
Whoever bumped this reminded me that it's time for two-a-days. I hate you. :)
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Not soon enough guys, not soon enough
- Shey
HOLY CRAP IT'S ALMOST AUGUST!
- Mike Nayyar
yup, just one more week. Still waiting for summer...
- Shey
Shey ...TRAINING CAMPS opened today!!!! yesssssss!
- .LAG liked that
LOL I just dug up this photo to give to a friend who was lamenting about no football. Even my kids are whining about it.
- Anika
Ah, the classics.
- Steven Perez
love this pic
- Mary Carmen
Whoever bumped this picture is my hero.
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
*takes a bow*
- Shey
Lawlz.
- Ayşe E.
...as fresh as the first time you posted it! .LOLz! -- btw, at least there's the scouting combines this week on NFL Network... if you like watching a bunch of college football players run around cones.
- .LAG liked that
For some reason, I read combines as concubines. I've been reading the Bible a lot more lately, LOL.
- Shey
hahaha!..... for some of those players, there will be concubines (and transgressions) too...
- .LAG liked that
dude... EPL, Serie A, La Liga, and Champion's League are going strong, and MLS is just about to get rolling! TONS OF FOOTBALL!!!
- Bren
WIN!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Any female who says she is ok with being a "friend with benefits" is lying to themselves. Stop it, you're worth more.
Raecheal, Dawn, Melanie Reed and 65 other people liked this
Bah! FWB is an awesome state of being.
- Sparky, lurking
Finally someone is talking the truth. Some straight talk is just what some people need IMHO. Thanks for putting your words down.
- David Damore
When it comes down to it, everyone wants to be loved and feel secure. The sooner you figure that out, the sooner you'll be happier. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Having had a few of these who were actively dating other people and easily moved on when they found someone they actually wanted to be with, I'm going to have to disagree. Yeah, there is some physical and general some emotional attraction, but it is still possible to separate sex from love. The problem comes when you remain good friends (with benefits) for too long, eventually the wires will get crossed, especially the more you go through together.
- xero
There is nothing wrong with actively dating, but just the "friends with benefits" is a load of crap. EVERY female is worth more than a quickie at 3am with no cuddling and day time outings.
- Mona Nomura
@Mona: Who says she has to get the quickie, the cuddling, and the daytime outings all from the same person?
- Roger Benningfield
...but why can't one just enjoy being loved in the moment?
- .LAG liked that
No one, Roger - but clearly that's what she is looking for. :) @.LAG In the moment is great... in the moment, but when the moment extends to longer moments, and longer moments, and even longer moments, it's human nature and a necessity that with love, comes trust, security, friendship, etc., etc. And if those needs aren't met or balanced, the drama ensues LOL
- Mona Nomura
Mona, are you saying that a woman is not capable of having a purely sexual urge that needs to be met without a romantic emotional urge attached to it?
- xero
true but it goes both ways. One person always wants more than the other in those situations and it's not always the lady.
- Anna Lynn M.
Xero - yes. @Anna: But why wouldn't she want more? What was she (or he) doing with the other person in the first place? ;)
- Mona Nomura
...Mona, it's that "drama" that keeps relationships interesting...and viable.
- .LAG liked that
Oh boy. I have close to zero tolerance for drama, I'm all about stability. Been there, done that, no thanks! Perhaps that's where we differ. ;)
- Mona Nomura
"more" is unattainable.
- Anthony Citrano
I loathe drama. Completely.
- Jonathan Hardesty
...some times, you just don't want more from that person. It's fun and that's all it is. It's not that you feel less worthy of a "real" relationship...some times that's all you want to deal with because there are other things in life going on. But you definitely have to be a very secure person to really honestly be ok with that kind of relationship..just my 2 cents.
- Anna Lynn M.
I think you may be projecting then Mona, considering this huge sexual revolution that women have been on for years, and my past experience, past friends, and psychological studies -- I'm going to fully disagree. It has been suggested that there is a genetic component to the women who can not separate the two feelings, but the studies I've seen have all shown overwhelming evidence that...
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- xero
Ack, drama. I have a 20ft no drama radius. I suggest everyone acquire one. ;)
- xero
Xero - That's what I've been saying, you just worded it differently LOL. And I agree with the drama. Been there, done that, no thanks. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, your comments sound more like a fuckbud than friends with benefits. Real FWB are friends more than anything else.
- Sparky, lurking
So what happens when one wants more than the other? Or starts to get attached? It's human nature, the longer you spend time with the person, you want to have something tangible and solid. As a female, if we set the tone with "friends with benefits", that's how the man will only see you as: "friends with benefits" or you'd end up as last resort. :(
- Mona Nomura
But it's not that it's not possible, it's just that people put themselves into those relationships without setting down ground rules, either personal ones or consensual ones. Then things change over time sometimes, maybe they get to know each other better, etc. Sometimes one of the people actually wants to be romantically involved with the other and they accept the other arrangement as a way to bide their time. Those situations will NEVER work out.
- xero
Honesty is always the best policy. And most of the time, people are not honest with themselves and or each other -- that's when things (feelings) get imbalanced and one party ends up getting hurt, mainly the female, more often times than not.
- Mona Nomura
Agreed, Mona. It's usually one person who gets more attached than the other, or there's some kind of failure to communicate that happens somewhere along the way. For all my talk, I'd probably get too attached the fastest. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
You're not the only one, Jonathan! ;)
- Mona Nomura
Heh. For all my "walls," I am kind of easy like that. Hence the need to create walls. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
I want a friend with benefits. Waaaah!
- vimoh
what?
- Pokai
Nobody ever actually *wants* a friend with benefits, those occur when you're in a situation in which something is preventing you from having a continued relationship. Most people actually just want someone they can booty call as needed, a "fuck buddy" if you will. You have to remember that a FWB situation only generally occurs naturally if two existing friends decide that the other "will do" for getting out sexual frustration.
- xero
Like I said, the idea of FWB appeals to me. Right now it's more of a sexual thing than a relationship thing. Now, whether or not that would work or turn into another long-term thing remains to be seen. But there's something to being with someone for however long...
- Jonathan Hardesty
Are you sure that you're not looking for a casual relationship (dating with no expectations or long-term plans) instead of FWB?
- xero
Could be. I dunno.
- Jonathan Hardesty
God I'm so not keeping up with this convo. Mona - if one wants more than the other then you talk about it like adults. People do actuall want friends with benefits - often when I'm single I hook up with close friends who are also single. We don't want relationships from each other beyond our close friendship but hey - why not party with your pants off once in a while? It's all about communication and having fun with your friends.
- Sparky, lurking
Sex can be a beautiful act of love between two people. It can also just be sex. Mind blowing, toe curling, swinging from the chandeliers sex.
- Sparky, lurking
@Sparky, the original comment was concerning females. I believe I know most all men can separate the two - physical sex/emotional sex. I cannot separate the two.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
Why can't you be loved by one person, and FWB with a few others?
- Chris Charabaruk
Way to stir up the mob Mona ;)
- Tony C (Unrated)
I tried that randomly sleeping around thing. It didn't work out. It's possible I just so happened to only sleep with chicks that wanted to put a ring on it though...LOL
- Rah-PM 2012
Personally, or empirically Chris? Personally, it's not whether I can or can't separate sex and love, it's that I don't want to separate sex and love (or perhaps better phrased as "lovingness"). If I'm scromping with someone I'm trusting them with my life and that's not something I take lightly. For me to have that kind of trust of a person, I had to know them well and by the time I know...
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- FFing Enigma
I was just trying to be humorous. That said, some people are better at separating sex and emotions than others... I've met guys where they go hand-in-hand, and I've met girls who could only love one guy, but have no problem sexing up anyone else.
- Chris Charabaruk
Really, it's just that some folk don't particularly see these things as having to go together. TBH, I'm one of them. Just the way I am.
- Chris Charabaruk
Mona, what you say is true...for Mona. But to impose your standards on others is presumptuous at best and intolerant at worst. Recast your remark substituting for "friends with benefits" the words "lesbian", "bottom", "sex worker", "polyamorous", "mother", "schoolteacher", "single", "childless", "executive", etc., and you'll see that you're denying your sisters the sovereignty to define...
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- Alan Chamberlain
Completely agree with you Mona.
- dpurrington
+++Sparky, Chris, tiffany & Roger.
- Anika
Mona is right. If you turn yourself into a piece of ass, you're going to wind up with the self-esteem of a piece of ass. In the end, you'll feel insecure, unloved and used. That's just the way life works. People who think they can separate their bodies from their spirits are just fooling themselves.
- Dawn
Dawn - if you look at it like that then yes. Having sex doesn't mean you are a piece of ass though. Also: sometimes it's hot to feel used ;)
- Sparky, lurking
That's sexist. Why wouldn't you think that a women wouldn't enjoy the same pleasures as a man? Plus, men can be just a "piece of ass" too.
- BEX
What's wrong with being sexy?
- dpurrington
Women are wired differently than men. Women are psychologically wired to nest with one protective mate. Men are much more capable of having frivolous multiple contacts; they don't have the same pulls on their heart, mind and spirit. Call that sexist if you want to, but I didn't create the biology.
- Dawn
Men and woman are biologically different. The sooner we understand why we (males and females) do what we do, life for both parties involved is a lot easier. We (as society) are so hung up on equality, a lot of lines get blurred -- and the sooner we shift mindsets to celebrating (and appreciating!) differences instead of trying to prove we are "just as good or better", the sooner the...
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- Mona Nomura
Alan said exactly what I was thinking. Trying to dictate how or why someone should act sexually, esepecially because of their gender, just ends up frustrating everyone. I hope we're past that as a society.
- Andy Bakun
I did it for a while. Sometimes I was happy, many times I was sad, in the end I was pissed off and never spoke to the guy again. I don't really recommend it, but I think it was about all I could do at the time. My options are pretty limited out here in the Midwest. I'm just very fortunate that I finally found my full-blown loving boyfriend after so many years. It took finding the right...
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- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah - I am so happy for you :) As for people coming in using words like "dictating" should take a close look at what myself (Dawn, plus a few others) are saying. Otherwise, we are going to keep talking in circles. And sub (jo), I completely disagree with your statement "there is absolutely nothing wrong with women who associate their self esteem with the men or women they sleep...
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- Mona Nomura
Oh most definitely tiffany, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a sexual female. :) sub (jo): self defining self esteem I agree with, but lying to yourselves or delusions is the problem and more often times than not leads to hurt, trauma, and or drama.
- Mona Nomura
"any female who says she is okay with FWB is lying to themsevles" sounds like dictating to me.
- Andy Bakun
What am I dictating, Andy? I just made a statement. How you react to the statement is not up to me, it's up to you. :)
- Mona Nomura
WOMEN HAVE BRAINS, people! We're not just slaves to our hormones and organs in EITHER direction. There's nature, and there's also nurture. This makes for infinite diversity. Saying that all women are the same is just plain irrational. We can come up with our own thoughts that have more influence over our actions and desires than any wiring and that oxytocin stuff. Also, many women AREN'T worth more, because they didn't use their brains to be worth more.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Biological determinism is overrated. Human beings have subverted biological drives for hundreds of thousands of years. Civilization is built on the systematic subversion of these drives. And in any case, there are plenty of examples throughout the animal kingdom where the gender roles don't always go that way.
- Victor Ganata
Of course women have brains. But it's also important to understand females tend to react emotionally. Once a female embraces that fact and males understand females are wired differently, things become a lot easier. (For ALL relationships i.e. friendships, colleagues, love, etc.)
- Mona Nomura
Who are you to judge what other women think, seriously? What's right for YOU isn't right for all women. Get that straight, and you'll begin to understand.
- Jillian York
I think it's important to understand that individual people are wired differently. We're not just all archetypes of our particular gender. A man who believes every man thinks the same is going to be at a disadvantage. I would imagine it's the same for a woman who assumes such things about other women.
- Victor Ganata
See? Case in point. Who are YOU Jillian, and why are you so upset with me?
- Mona Nomura
Men react emotionally, too. If you haven't seen a guy do a shoutingcussypissy dance in the infield because he let a grounder get past him, or because someone shot him dead in Half-Life, you might have missed something--or you might not.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage - of course. I am speaking generally. I know MANY males who are more emotional than females. I am speaking in generalities here.
- Mona Nomura
I just found this via someone else's link - you're assuming that women who have the capacity to handle that arrangement are "lying" themselves? I find that utterly judgemental and ridiculous.
- Jillian York
"Human beings have subverted biological drives for hundreds of thousands of years." Oh really? Homo sapiens sapiens have only been on earth for 2 of those "hundreds of thousands of years." And "civilization" has only been around a tiny fraction of that. Yes, humans have the power to "subvert biological drives" but doing so always comes at a cost.
- Dawn
LOL! Not even worth it! [edit: oh, I suppose that means 2 (100k), not 2 (1000). Phwew!
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
And Mona, my upset isn't directed solely at you but at the generations of women who've had this idea pushed down their throats by other women. You're perpetuating gender stereotypes.
- Jillian York
Jillian - that was a rhetorical question. It doesn't matter who you are, everyone is welcome in my feed. I am going to say the same thing I said to Andy. I just made a statement, how you react to the statement is up to you. :) As for your latter comment, I am copying what I wrote above: "We (as society) are so hung up on equality, a lot of lines get blurred -- and the sooner we shift...
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- Mona Nomura
Who cares? People do what they do. We're animals, right?
- Tyler Hurst
Jillian, once you get to my age, you'll understand that "women who have the capacity to handle that arrangement" are their own harshest judges as they look back and think "What the hell was I doing?!" I've talked to countless women who see later in life the damage they inflicted on themselves.
- Dawn
Mona, if you believe in those differences, then you should also believe in the differences between groups of women. I accept and believe that for you - and many, many other women - a "friends with benefits" situation makes you feel less worthy. For other women - myself included at certain times in life - it makes me feel empowered and complete. You and I fundamentally agree that men and women are different, but I also agree that not all women are created equal.
- Jillian York
Oh Dawn, come off it. I'm in the best relationship of my life, and committed - but I would never for a second regret the encounters I've had. Monogamy is not right for everyone; just because you've come to see that later in life doesn't mean that I will feel the same way. I'm sorry for your regrets - I have none.
- Jillian York
I'm willing to admit that the percentage off women who can handle FWB may well be lower than the percentage of men who can. However, I just can't let anyone say a woman can't do it. People used to claim that women couldn't be mass-murderers and that men couldn't be nurturing. Nature has examples of males who are wired for one mate for life, and probably has an example of profligate females. We are too complex to pigeonhole.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I agree, MiniMage - I don't doubt that the experiences of those women are true. But I also know countless women my mother's age who remain uncommitted, or who found marriage to be their worst mistake (just like I did). These same people who are coming to accept the differences between men and women should accept the differences between WOMEN.
- Jillian York
I don't have any regrets. And being "friends with benefits" is not the same thing as having had one sexual partner your whole life.
- Dawn
My stance on monogamy has been changing lately. At this point in my life, I'm not entirely sure I want to "love" just one person, or even have something long term and exclusive. Just thought I would throw that out there. I think that there are women out there who could do FWB, but I haven't met them.
- Jonathan Hardesty
I will say though, I haven't met a lot of people, so take that how you will. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Dawn, not sure I understood that last part or how it pertains to me.
- Jillian York
You're confusing what monogamy is. It means having one sexual partner for a period of time. People can be FWB and be monogamous. And when you say, "Monogamy is not right for everybody," and also say you're in a "committed" relationship, your statements are in conflict.
- Dawn
"These same people who are coming to accept the differences between men and women should accept the differences between WOMEN." Jillian nails it! Women aren't the same. Look, the "women are made differently" argument is old & tired. It's been used to force women into marriages they didn't want, deny women the right to vote, get an education or own property, and keep girls out of football, baseball and other opportunities. Seriously, I'd like to see that dropped. Women can bear young. Men can't. I get it.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage, Women ARE made differently and we are in 2009. I respect the fight and the paths past women (and males) fought to get us to where we are. That said, I still deal with racism and sexism almost everyday -- actually, depending on how I look at it, life could've been horrible for me. I am Asian. I am female. But even if I am called China-girl in 2009, even if I am female, even if I am...
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- Mona Nomura
The problem I have is the implicit devaluation of other people's experiences. How can you assume how much someone values a certain situation without knowing them very well?
- Victor Ganata
Mona, you have said that you don't believe in luck. You believe each person determines his or her own fate. However, you don't believe a woman can decide that she doesn't want more than to have a friend with benefits? How do you reconcile this?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Dawn, I know what friends with benefits means. I've done it, and it worked for me at that point of time in my life. Being committed NOW doesn't conflict with the belief that monogamy isn't always right. We change and develop our entire life, and my philosophy is to go with what feels right at the time and live without regrets. I'm committed now because, for the first time ever in my life, it feels like the right choice. I've also been married, and that felt like the wrong choice.
- Jillian York
Victor - Can you put it more simply? I don't understand what you are trying to ask me. @Mage: It's because a lot of females try to live up to the anti-societal stereotypes. Like I keep saying, we are in 2009. Not 1950.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, when you render a judgment like that, you're de-valuing people's experiences. My question is, how do you know what a particular experience is worth to another person, without actually knowing the person?
- Victor Ganata
Mona, again, that's your opinion, and like Victor said, you're de-valuing people's experiences. Yes, there are women who do certain things to stick it to the man; there are also many women who do what feels right to them. By placing your assumptions on all of us, you're no better than the rest.
- Jillian York
Ok. If you say so. We are just talking in circles. But I still stand by my statement and excusing certain behaviors by assigning whatever reasoning only gives justification for people to not re-examine themselves and why they do the certain things they do. :)
- Mona Nomura
Hopefully, people can at least understand that Jillian's "do whatever feels good at the time" sexual philosophy creates instability that is very harmful to children, which explains why there have been societal pressures against it.
- Dawn
Circles is right. I will have to give up. As for me, I will try to allow each his or her own personhood and right to determine for himself or herself what makes him/her happy, no matter what year it is, no matter what chromosomes he/she was born with. Why? Because no one can truly understand every human mind, and how each one is shaped by his/her experiences.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I'd also be careful about being too categoric about what is "very harmful to children", because a lot less is harmful to children than one thinks (it might not be "very good" but its not harmful) except direct and indirect abuse. And a happy, balanced etc. parent is far better than anything else
- Iphigenie
Mona writes: "We (as society) are so hung up on equality". Ah, would that that were true, alas. The fight for marriage equality continues, for example, and a great many in our society are vehemently opposed to it. Until we (as society) are able to tolerate diversity, not simply of gender or race, but of experience, philosophy, sexual response, and beliefs, we should continue to be "hung...
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- Alan Chamberlain
As long as we recognize that it's a judgment call and not an empiric truth, I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
- Victor Ganata
i am sure it was prompted by a real life situation, probably watching a friend in a hurtful situation - and in that context it probably makes a lot of sense. If it affects your perceived value of yourself, then goodness! never do it, whatever it is
- Iphigenie
Oh of course, I stand by all my girlfriends who get into the FWB (for whatever reason they choose to) and am there when they need a shoulder, Mage. :) @Alan - You're not understanding me, and that is ok. It's not about "tolerating" or "equality". It's about understanding and celebrating the differences. Word connotations automatically lead to offense and defense, which is why there are so many issues that aren't resolute. @Victor - it is the truth.
- Mona Nomura
What is the litmus test for something being a judgment call vs an empirical truth? because that test itself is a judgment call - I know this empirically.
- Micah
Give me some evidence! n = 1 is a sucky sample size, n =2 only marginally less sucky ;)
- Victor Ganata
doesnt it all boil down to expectations? If the girl or guy says they are OK but actually hope for more, then it will be painful sooner or later, and it will affect self esteem, Mona is right about that. If they have no expectations or wish to be more, and just enjoy intimacy now and then, but clearly think of each other as just friends with no expectations, then it can work. The ones I know who do are transient (a couple times then no more) or occcasional (every few months, not more often).
- Iphigenie
I can agree with that. Anyone who thinks FWB is a stable situation that can last indefinitely is going to be disappointed eventually.
- Victor Ganata
Well Dawn, maybe that's true and maybe it isn't - but I don't WANT children, so that's quite irrelevant. Also, I am with Victor in that FWB is not a lasting situation - but it is one that some women can enjoy emotionally unscathed and perhaps even better for having.
- Jillian York
I'm out too, but thank you Mona, for inspiring a blog post!
- Jillian York
I have a hard time believing that even men want FWB perpetually (well, except for maybe on FFer), but who actually says that's all they'll ever want? Some men or women could be fine with it for a year or two, or a decade or two. We all have the ability to change our minds, and it doesn't make our previous experiences any less invalid. Yeah, that doggoned little toast-thingy that keeps popping up the conversations dragged me back. I'm really incapable of letting it go.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Hopefully, this thread would be helpful to people reading and understanding all takes to making a choice that is right for them. :) I'm all about self growth, re-examination, and learning from other people!
- Mona Nomura
i seriously doubt there's ever been a guy version of this conversation -- "Any male who says he is bothered by being a 'friend with benefits' is lying to himself" -- possibly because most guys would agree. :-D while there are always individual differences, *generally* speaking, men and women are wired differently on this point. this difference was summed up by Woody Allen in "Love & Death." SONJA: Sex without love is an empty experience. BORIS: But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best.
- Karim
thus this conversation has always gone. which leads me to believe that biological determinism, in this case, is *underrated* not *overrated* :-D
- Karim
Karim, I doubt there's ever been a guy version of "women don't have souls," or "women are too delicate for discussions about politics," or "women do not have the mental capacities for education," or "women shouldn't own property," or "women should stay in the home and serve their men." Thus, your argument is meaningless to me.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mini, not sure i understand your point. is it that "women don't have souls" and "it's ok to be promiscuous" are both *cultural* differences and not biologically-driven? maybe just my ignorance, but i'm just not aware of any cultures in which promiscuity was acceptable for women but shameful for men. even if there was one, it seems like the number of male-promiscuous cultures outnumber the ones that aren't to the point it suggests biology is the culprit.
- Karim
tiffany, i guess i'd agree. my point is that you rarely see guys emotionally conflicted about FWB or promiscuity *as soon as* or *as often as* you see women conflicted about it -- not that men are *never* conflicted about it, nor that women *never* are in the mood for what Erica Jong called a "zipless fuck" in the 1970s :-D
- Karim
I agree
- orionstarr
Mona, I read your statement, disagreed with it, and then read the comments. Wow, FFers, pretty good job on a sensitive topic. But I don't get it when you deny being judgmental. "I stand by all my girlfriends who get into the FWB (for whatever reason they choose to) and am there when they need a shoulder." Except how could it be safe for one of your friends to come to you? After you've...
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- Daniel Dulitz
It's easier to give people what they want from me, when I understand where they are coming from. Because I know (or made up my mind to) what I know, my friends do not need me to disrupt their peace of minds and or screw with their reasonings behind their actions. I also have nothing to prove to myself or to them so I do not even attempt changing their minds, hence it helps me become a better friend to them. :) And Karim - I always appreciate your thoughtful, witty, and very wise comments. :)
- Mona Nomura
Karim, what I'm saying is that people have used "women are different" for thousands of years to deny women this or that. It's just more of the same to claim that no woman can be happy with FWB, just because she's got an innie.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
tiffany, I think you've pointed at the reason for the disagreement here: Surely there is some level of mutual affection and respect between romantic love on one extreme, and, on the other extreme, using someone else as a Kleenex to masturbate into.
- Mitch Wagner
+1 MiniMage, Tiffany, and Mitch.
- Anthony Citrano
wow 124 comments later and still no agreement :O now thats a shocker
- Tony C (Unrated)
LOL Who said men that are promiscuous aren't viewed that way, too. Personally I never go after "players" because more often times then not, they are making up for something they are lacking and I am way out of their leagues. ;) And you guys talk as though we are in 1950 and not 2008. I respect, remember, and grateful of the history, but am not stuck in those times.
- Mona Nomura
Mona *blush* thanks... :-D Mini, well, i'm not trying to deny women anything, i'm not even making a value judgement about whether men or women are "right" -- just saying that when you have this huge discrepancy in sexual attitudes that seems to transcend time and culture, the cause *might* be biological not cultural. just because people have used differences (real & imagined) to repress women doesn't mean the (real) differences don't exist or that pointing them out is tantamount to repression. :-D
- Karim
Repression might not even be the point, or it might be repression, "Sorry, honey, you can't feel the way you believe you feel, because you're a woman. Whatever you believe about yourself is wrong." Yeah, that might actually be repression. I believe that FWB cannot work for most of us (talking both genders) most of the time, but I would not be so presumptious as to assume it is impossible for any subset of the population for at least a little while. Why the heck do I keep coming back to this?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I guess the assumption I have a problem with is the notion that biologically-driven is necessarily better. If we stuck to biological drives and didn't act on our higher functions, we wouldn't have civilization.
- Victor Ganata
Because you feel so strongly and passionately about it, and I respect that Mage :) @Victor - yes, but take a look at civilization and the various tiers (for the lack of better term) of society and its people. What makes one "better" or "worse"? What makes one believe they are "better" or "worse". Ugh - this is a direction I do not want to go LOL
- Mona Nomura
Victor, my assumption is *not* that biologically-driven differences are "better" than culturally-driven ones. in fact the culturally-driven ones are better because they are software, not hardware: a culture can revise or drop a belief that doesn't work. whereas if your hormones tend to make you believe something, that's *hardwired* into the culture. sure, a few enlightened souls might see past their programming :-D but that doesn't always get passed on to the next generation.
- Karim
i guess i'm thinking of all the stuff i've read about how complex behaviors later in life -- like whether you're aggressive, or passive, whether you like to build forts or play with dolls, etc. -- is very often influenced by minuscule hormonal changes in the womb. while i'm willing to consider an argument that attitudes about promiscuity and FWB are culturally-generated, it seems more...
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- Karim
Mini, *my* point certainly isn't to repress anyone. don't want to be an apologist for Mona since she is more than capable of speaking for herself :-D
- Karim
More than that, it's an oversimplification of biology to believe that just because you have two X chromosomes, you're going to behave a certain way. I could agree with "some", maybe even "most", but certainly not "all". Not everyone has the same hormones coursing through their blood at the same concentrations, and not all of them will respond to the hormones in the same way anyway. Any statement you make about an entire gender is not going to be true for 100% of the cases.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, i agree with that. i've tried to qualify things by using phrases like "very often" so it's clear i'm not talking about something being true for 100% of anything. once you've spent some time looking up aneuploidy ("yikes! you can have *five* X chromosomes???") it's clear there is wonderful variation in sexual biology.
- Karim
i guess i'm thinking that if women's feelings about FWB and promiscuity are *cultural*, then the men are not getting the same cultural programming. either our culture should instruct men to be just as monogamous and prudent sexually as women, or instruct women to be just as sexually profligate as men. granted there'd be a few people who won't get with the program, but you could probably eliminate most of the cultural difference and most of the age-old argument.
- Karim
Karim, yeah, other than the fact that many (but not all) genotypic women can give birth while all genotypic men can't, there really isn't any other behavior that can be exclusively attributed to either gender.
- Victor Ganata
if it's *not* cultural -- if being more prudent than promiscuous just comes along for the ride as part of the biological machinery of being a woman -- then there's no end to the difference, really... Sonja & Boris have the same conversation forever ;-)
- Karim
Victor, yeah there's no behavior that can be *exclusively* attributed (as in 100%) to either gender, though you really don't need to get to 100% to say that IN GENERAL, girls like doing certain things that boys don't and vice versa. that is common sense. the question for me is whether you looking at cultural differences (that can be changed), or biological differences (that are hard-wired).
- Karim
Karim, true, but then we get to the question of whether such a difference is biologically-driven or whether it's a social construct. This question will probably never be answered, but I'm just always wary of blanket statements that preclude the possibility of individual variation.
- Victor Ganata
And THAT, Karim, is all I'm saying. One simply cannot truthfully say that 100% of women can't do FWB happily. I'm not saying it can't be true of 51-99%. And personally, I think that if there is a disparity between the percentages of men who can and women who can, it's a societal construct. Thousands of years of women being told that they can not behave the way men do has continued to be extremely effective, I believe.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
The point is: make blanket statements and let people answer if they are or are not the exception. If you keep adding "but"s and "and"s, it gives people excuses to pinpoint blame elsewhere, instead of looking at themselves first. If you know you are the exception, why do you need to prove it?
- Mona Nomura
Victor, i think you can address the question. it's hard but not impossible to find evidence of biological programming. you could possibly survey people with a sex-linked monosomy or triosomy, or people who had hormonal exposure in utero for their attitudes on FWB and promiscuity. or survey general population attitudes by level of hormone. much more easily, social scientists should be able to find evidence of cultural effects on attitudes toward promiscuity, if they exist.
- Karim
Mage - I'm still really curious as to why you keep talking about repression and societal constructs of males and females. Karim already said he is not and I have stated numerous times I have not. I wish people would examine themselves, their situations, themselves, as well as biological factors to determine what is right for THEM.
- Mona Nomura
the sad thing is that after years of research, the results would be published in the newspaper as "Women have greater negative attitude to promiscuity than men," and everyone would go "DUH! Why is Science always telling us things we already know?" lol
- Karim
Hahahhahahhahahahaha!! +++++++++++++++ Karim!
- Mona Nomura
I know at least 3 guys who were FWB with women, and wanted to actually have a real relationship with them, and the girl reminded them that, no, they agreed to just being FWB. Hanging out was fun, sex is great...but didn't want to move into "official' relationship territory. Are the guys also worth more than that?
- Andru Edwards
Dru - that is a question they need to answer themselves. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, I missed the part where you said it was possible that some females exist who could possibly do the FWB thing quite happily for a while. I seem to have a really serious reading retention problem today.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
It's somewhere in this thread or one of the other ones... this was a hot topic last night LOL
- Mona Nomura
How come the guys have to answer it for themselves, but the women are all, by default, worth more than that?? :P
- Andru Edwards
Dru LOL Because females are better than males, of course! KIDDING, FOLKS!
- Mona Nomura
Andru, it's a good question! The cliche in pop culture is that it's almost always the woman who sobs to her friends about feeling like a piece of meat, who is left behind when she wants to cuddle, who insists on getting married, etc. and the guy who has the post-coital need to abruptly leave, etc. etc. it's almost certain that those cliched roles are reversed some of the time, and that it's sometimes a *guy* who might need to realize that he's "worth more than that." but i don't know how often.
- Karim
Of course it goes both ways. But more often times than not, it is harder for females to... hold on, I already covered this. Need to go look for my comment so I can just copy and paste.
- Mona Nomura
the one example of a male in pop culture along similar lines is "Alfie," where the protagonist is a promiscuous male. he slowly comes to realize he should have picked one and settled down.
- Karim
No. It's about different methods we communicate. Most of the time, females cling because they really like the guy, thought there was something more (for one reason or another), and is hurt and or angry. And guys, more often times than not, give lame excuses like: "You deserve someone better." Stop that. That just gives false hope. If you tell her straight up: "I am sorry I hurt you, but...
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- Mona Nomura
Sorry but this sounds a lot like Hollywood crap and/or high school garbage. You see all the time in movies and TV shows, but it is really running that rampant? Those three guys I mentioned, that happened we were in our very late teens/early 20s, very immature age. Does this really happen a lot past, say, 21?!
- Andru Edwards
YES.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Mini, sorry, just seeing your last comment. I am certainly willing to consider any evidence that the difference between male and female promiscuity is cultural if you care to offer any :-)
- Karim
fanofnomuristic
- pb:
Karim, when I was in college, certain athletes would get together every semester and post a "freak list." It was a horrible thing for a female to be listed there. If a young woman'd had her way with a bunch of them, she made the list. Guys did not make the list. For the most part, this public shaming was not done to, uh, GENEROUS guys. You can't blame this on physiology. The message was...
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- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage - I don't think that is culture, but more defense physiology or basically defense mechanisms when people feel threatened.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
In addition to Mona's other incredible qualities, apparently she is also telepathic :p
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Mini, that's interesting! though i'm not quite letting go of the biological theory yet. i'm guessing you had an idea that promiscuity was bad *prior* to being shown the "freak list" and i'm wondering how/when it develops. does mom give you the "boys only want one thing" talk? do you get the idea from your friends? are you just born knowing it's wrong? stupid men want to know. :-D
- Karim
All I'm asking is why is the normative situation considered superior to the non-normative situation? Why does being outside of the norm require assigning blame or rueful self-examination? It just seems like we're trying to take what is clearly a culturally constructed moral situation, and using vague claims of science to try to pretend that it's completely universal.
- Victor Ganata
"clearly a culturally constructed moral situation" <--??? LOL Uh, no.
- Mona Nomura
How is it not a culturally constructed moral situation, Mona? All I have seen is you saying that everyone really believes what you believe and that they are lying to themselves if they claim otherwise. Isn't such an accusation inherently disrespectful of another person's thoughts and feelings? How is this different than the Christians who all say that atheists REALLY know there is a god and that christianity is true but claim to be atheists so they can sin freely?
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
I am just asking questions that are way below the surface. Why are you so upset Neal?
- Mona Nomura
And couldn't the same kinds of accusations be made of homosexuals? Or of just about anything? Can't I just turn it around and say "Any woman who doesn't believe that they can have a sexual relationship with someone without a romantic one is just lying to themselves"? This is called the "Problem of Incorrigibility"...it is impossible to correct another's internal state.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Because you are simply reproducing the same moralizing technique used by every other kind of bigot, but since it is about something you feel strongly about you assert it with no care. I was polyamorous, quite functionally, for 10 years, and my wife and I would not be together if not for having open relationships with other partners when we met. You are taking YOUR way and saying it is...
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- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Absolutes just don't work for me in most cases. For some women, FWB is a door mat type of scenario - for others, it might actually be their cup of tea. The spectrum of sexual preference is nearly infinite.
- AJ Kohn
I'm sorry, Mona, that was rude of me. I need to take a break, I don't want to alienate anyone, especially you.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
No, it's ok Neal. I see where you are coming from and I am sorry I offended you. I said this up top, but I am going to paste it again: "The point is: make blanket statements and let people answer if they are or are not the exception. If you keep adding "but"s and "and"s, it gives people excuses to pinpoint blame elsewhere, instead of looking at themselves first. If you know you are the exception, why do you need to prove it? - You (edit | delete)"
- Mona Nomura
And to add: "We (as society) are so hung up on equality, a lot of lines get blurred -- and the sooner we shift mindsets to celebrating (and appreciating!) differences instead of trying to prove we are "just as good or better", the sooner the lines will become invisible. This applies to other issues, too. i.e. race, culture, class, etc."
- Mona Nomura
How about this? When I was 8, I was convinced by older kids that it was acceptable to indulge in some "show & tell" with another. The boy wasn't punished by his parents, but I was severely punished & made to feel like a rotten child ( mother was CRYING). Think this had to leave a lasting impression? Why didn't my chromosomes teach me that this wasn't right in the first place? I believe it's because it's a society thing based on early man's decision to make sure he had control of whose heirs his mate bore.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Mage - I am sorry nobody was there to protect and watch out for you. :(
- Mona Nomura
Mini-mage...the reverse happened to me when I was 9-10. A game of "show me yours" with a bother-sister set of my friends from two streets over led to the little girl being treated like trash while her brother and I were dismissed with "boys will be boys" (ironically, when I was later experimenting with boys, I taught that same neighbor boy a thing or two about being boys ;)). I always...
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- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
Thanks, Mona, but I've experienced worse and lived through it. :) The important thing is to note that I wasn't the first, nor will I be the last. We must not dismiss the ramifications of parents' having locked up their girls for thousands of years while letting the boys run wild. There might be a nature component to it, but I am betting on nurture.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Oh, and yes, Karim, I absolutely did get the "Don't let some little boy get you off into a corner," talk from my mother and the "Boys will bring you down," talk from my father.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I agree with nurture. I finally came to terms with the fact my parents were not around and I learned a lot of stuff the hard way -- experience, and watching those around me. That is why when someone said up there (I think it was Daniel?) that since I Tweeted the above statement, I must be a terrible, judgmental friend. But because of what I have been through, I am exactly the opposite;...
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- Mona Nomura
Mini, Neal -- thanks, those anecdotes are definitely ammo for the cultural difference camp. i'll have to think about this a bit more. roughly 5 years old to puberty is the "latency period" in psychoanalytic theory; i didn't think parents would instill any instruction on promiscuity during this *asexual* period. i certainly never got any, but i'm a boy so what do i know. lol thanks for the (scary, traumatic) peek into the mind of an 8 year old girl. :-D
- Karim
@Mona .. what have you been through?
- pb:
LOL I have seen anything and everything from top to bottom. And Mage, Neal, I too, thank you both for sharing your experiences. :)
- Mona Nomura
NP, Mona, I think social media is actually therapy in a way, at least for me. My wife thinks that I feel more free to be me on the net, even though I am transparent about my identity. She (she's getting her Psy.D., so her opinion is informed) thinks my comfort here vs. my discomfort IRL is about the mode of interaction and my PTSD (I, too, had a seriously screwed childhood).
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
And thanks Mage and everyone else who shares with me in that same spirit of transparency.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
I have no idea what to say now, so forgive me for not saying much other than I am delighted to have so many fluff-less discussions on FriendFeed. I try to operate on the principle that every experience must shape me, and that I must determine how.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
That's why I love FriendFeed (in particular) so much. We are able to openly exchange our experiences and thoughts and though we may disagree, at least we still respect each other. That's the kind of friendships I have in real life too, so I am usually weary (or terrified) of other social platforms LOL
- Mona Nomura
Indeed. FF is different. Anyone who still think the internet isn't "real" or that "internet relationships are not real" (apologies to MC Lars, Bay Area REPRESENT) need to come to FF and see the depth of some of the interactions.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
from IM
@Mona :] ... but have you seen the yellow elephant?? .....// and, from what you seen, what did you like the best?
- pb:
I'm interested in the exchange between Neal ("same language as every other kind of bigot") and Mona ("just asking questions that are way below the surface"). Mona, I felt angry because the typical mode of sexual moralism is to tell people that they're lying to themselves. When I was a child, trusted people told me that I was lying to myself about a lot of things and I believed them,...
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- Daniel Dulitz
+1 Daniel
- Chris Charabaruk
+1000 Mona.
- Valley
Without determining whether it is cultural or ingrained, and qualifying that this is far from universal, a man avoids commitment because he thinks he might be able to do better, while a woman seeks commitment because she thinks he may be right. :-) This has been an interesting discussion, and I'm not persuaded that we've really solved anything. Those who think women who are ok with FWB...
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- Alan Chamberlain
all i found was a pull quote from Kinsey, "There seems to be no question but that the human male would be promiscuous in his choice of sexual partners throughout the whole of his life if there were no social restrictions... The human female is much less interested in a variety of partners." The fact that he qualifies *human* (and not American, Western, European, Modern, etc.) male and...
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- Karim
Karim, please name one human society that doesn't treat females differently. In some African societies, they mutilate girls to keep them chaste and restricted to one man (they make sure that sex isn't pleasant for them). In China, single mothers are treated like outcasts. I just read that in India, girls have to be home by dark. Do boys get burqas? I just read that in India, girls have...
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- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
just saying all human societies treat women "differently" from men isn't saying much. it just implies that men and women *are* different, which they are. :-) what you seem to be implying is that women are always treated *worse* than men in all societies. is that what you mean? i am not a social scientist, but i didn't think that was strictly true, given the existence of...
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- Karim
and just to speculate wildly, i'd say some cultures demonize "temptresses" because men are such easy marks. lol it is widely believed that it takes more effort for men to be celibate than women, and women are the ones holding back, sexually. (whether this is true is another question.) sometimes the same phenomenon occurs in those quitting any addiction. they demonize the thing they're addicted to (cigarette, drink, woman) rather than themselves for being so weak. [reaches for cigarette & glass of gin]
- Karim
I'm not saying women are always treated worse. Remember, I hate when people say what's true of some/most is true of all. In fact, I remember reading that there were some aboriginal cultures where sexual experimentation was encouraged and expected of both girls and boys before marriage. Anyway, I wonder what Sarah Hrdy would say today: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette...
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
it's the biological aspect of the divide in (traditional, common) male/female sexual attitudes that makes it so particularly depressing to me.
- edythe
Love is like a game...no way love is like a heaven, so hot
- Yüksel AYDIN
Wow - how did you find this post?! LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
know if that anit true what is the world coming too. In females self value is so important because most girls have none and that is plan stupided and it makes me so mad so i love this post thank u
- Raecheal
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Last survivor of a doomed planet in a distant galaxy, a baby girl was launched in a rocket designed by her parents to flee the destruction. Traveling across the stars, the rocket came to rest on a planet of sentient penguins, whose civilization was based on the tenets of liberty, freedom and surprise naps. Adopted by a barren couple, the young girl grew to adulthood rapidly in the altered gravity of her new homeworld. Her abilities far outstripped the more modest avian abilities, and so, when she reached maturity, she launched herself into the void in her rocket and traveled the stars, seeking a place to call her own. After many adventures, she settled on the planet Earth and adopted the moniker Penguin, after her foster mother. With her abilities of flight, super-strength and super-speed, Penguin has been instrumental in turning back the Shadows and the Borg from destroying her new home. She now resides in her Fortress of Solitude and wears the stripey socks that are a symbol of her avian roots.
- Steven Perez
I don't think Penguin suffers from such problems. She frequently makes use of advanced mathematics that she learned in her time among the stars. :)
- Steven Perez
Bump.
- Steven Perez
I forgot all about this! Spot on with the bio, man, I should get you to write the full novelisation.
- Penguin
You're not blocked; I have a private feed and your sub request was buried (I'm ridiculously lazy about approving requests, lol). You should be all set now! :)
- Penguin
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Thank you Dobromir! <3
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That's why I subscribed. Ok, actually it was for the pretty flickr-age. :)
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Thanks Karl ^^
- Neya
pleasure is all mine :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Mornings wouldn't be the same without her:-)
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Michael <3 That was so sweet!
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<3 Nia! :-))
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<3 :)
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Take a walk on the wild side: pancakes with panache | King Arthur Flour - Bakers’ Banter - http://blog.kingarthurflour.com/2009...
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Lord have mercy!
- Derrick
Derrick, no google reader? Oh, such fun there.
- Myrna
No, I never got into the whole google reader thing. I don't even have a gmail account. *ducks* BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT PANCAKES, SHALL WE?
- Derrick
LOOOL!
- Myrna
There's pancakes...and there's crêpes. Mm either way, love them both, especially in chocolate combinations
- Mo Kargas
Omg those look SO good!
- Karen Humphrey
I just made some of these this morning.
- Steven Perez
best cooking catalog on earth :)
- Susan Beebe
These pancakes look delicious, they remind me of chocolate in pita bread :-)
- Majento
Susan - OMG, I know! I love looking at it. My second favorite is the Penzey's catalog for all of those wonderful descriptions of spices and their origins.
- Katy S
I make awesome pancakes, if I may say so myself. From scratch, from memory. Pancake mix is dumb.
- Wirehead
I can haz pancakes from the past
- Majento
Haha, these must be stale from August!
- Myrna
I don't care, now they're back
- Majento
hahaha ok ok be my guest!
- Myrna
i hope someone can make the delivery, quick!
- Majento
a little too far for me :)
- Myrna
M, just had delicious grilled provolone on spelt with slices of hard boiled egg.. no sugar here
- Myrna
hmmm spelt :-) i don't know, the rest sounds great
- Majento
spelt is a form of wheat
- Myrna
that i know, just saying i prefer the provolone & boiled egg on something else
- Majento
pita?
- Myrna
haha nope, i'd say Brioche
- Majento
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This is unusual in that I think most of the "after" logos are better. Network Solutions is a disaster, but most of the others are an improvement. Usually these "re-brandings" turn me off to a firm.
- Alex Scrivener
++ Alex - usually I don't like rebrandings, but I favor almost all of these. The only one I don't is Nickelodeon, simply because the "splat" also served as a wordless brand, which made it identifiable, even if the print wasn't legible.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Nickelodeon is a mistake! They don't have a splat now!!
- Roberto Arancibia
Yeah, no more Nicksplat!
- LouCypher
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"In research involving 50,000 men over 20 years, scientists led by Kathryn Wilson at Harvard’s Channing Laboratory found that the 5 percent of men who drank 6 or more cups a day had a 60 percent lower risk of developing the advanced form of the disease than those who didn’t consume any. The risk was about 20 percent lower for the men who drank 1 to 3 cups a day, and 25 percent lower for those consuming 4 or 5 cups."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
6+ cups a day??? Eesh.
- ronin
This is good news for those of us who drink more than 6 cups a day. I always like finding articles like this to support my bad habits.
- Thomas Hawk
I think it probably works with beer too.
- Thomas Hawk
That's 5 percent. What about the other 95%, eh?
- CarlC
Sounds like I need to increase my consumption a bit.
- Mark Krynsky
The Best of the Year! - Popwhore 09 - http://popwhore.com/2009...
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[revised Art History] . Van Gogh's ear was cut off by Gauguin with a sword - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture...
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"The prevailing theory is that the Dutchman almost bled to death after slashing his own ear with a razor in a fit of lunacy on the night of December 23, 1888. He is said to have wrapped it in cloth and handed it to a prostitute in a nearby brothel. [B]ut a new study claims Vincent Van Gogh may have made up the story to protect painter Paul Gauguin who actually lopped it off with a sword during an argument. German art historians say the true version of events never surfaced as the two men both kept a "pact of silence" – Gauguin to avoid prosecution and Van Gogh in a vain attempt to keep a friend with whom he was hopelessly infatuated. In Van Gogh's Ear: Paul Gauguin and the Pact of Silence, Hans Kaufmann and Rita Wildegans claim it was the sword attack, not Van Gogh's madness, that led him to commit suicide two years later." #visual01
- Adriano
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Hans Kaufmann / Rita Wildegans, « Van Gogh Ohr, Paul Gauguin und der Pakt des Schweigens », Osburg Verlag http://www.osburg-verlag.de/index...
- Adriano
January 2010 issue of The Art Newspaper: Martin Bailey writes that he devised a theory after studying van Gogh’s painting “Still Life: Drawing Board With Onions,” which the artist completed a month after cutting off part of his left earlobe. Among the details in the painting is an envelope, an image that Mr. Bailey examined under a microscope and said contained a letter in which Theo...
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- Adriano
The best selling album of the decade: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/program...
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James Blunt! Really!?
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AMYYYYYYYYYY...... (i still have a crush on her, :(
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Matthew and Sarah's First Christmas Eve - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Merry Christmas, babies Gray!
- Anne Bouey
you were made to narrate videos louis :)
- Allen Stern
whats the little red thing on the floor near the couch?
- Allen Stern
cherish every one of these moments. They grow up faster then you could ever imagine.
- Jerry Schuman
Allen, that's a great compliment from the man who knows the Blogger King. Thanks!
- Louis Gray
And the red thing on the floor next to the couch is an old-fashioned Kewpie doll my wife had when she was a baby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Louis Gray
Aw! =) Happy Holidays to you and your family, Louis! [And to everyone else!]
- deepikaur
BUMPage
- Johnny
Merry Christmas to the Gray family!
- Anne Bouey
Isn't it amazing how they change in just one year! Yikes!
- Dawn
More snowy shots from the fields nearby the house. It's a great area for walking the dog, particularly when they put the cows away. :-)
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The camera's battery ran out during this walk though. I did go out again today but only took a few with my SLR, I might upload them another day. I hope to have 1 or 2 days processing a load of my photos after Xmas Day.
- Kol Tregaskes
the best shot I can see from my window is a kid shoveling my driveway :)
- just ZONED
Hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
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- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
kim sahiplendi 1 yıllık kirasını werdim
- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- elywart
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- OSMANOVİĆ
:):) domuz bagı yaparım hareket edemezsin :D
- elywart
ahaa gözüm kamaştı :D
- Hande Ünver
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- Cemile Demir
ulen :(
- Nur
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- OSMANOVİĆ
bu kapışmanın arasına girmek istemem ben de bir kazaya kurban giderim falan :D
- Hande Ünver
hahahha ELyazın defteri duruldu çoktan :))))))))))))))))
- OSMANOVİĆ
bebeyim biliyorum ki öyle düşünmem,ben de iş içindeyim hem =) lav yu en dis sopos tu bi may galeri=) <3 (kiraz)
- Nur
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- OSMANOVİĆ
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- OSMANOVİĆ
mesaji aldiniz millet!!! ;)
- OSMANOVİĆ
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- Cemile Demir
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- OSMANOVİĆ
yiyedebilirim evet kesinlikle :))
- Cemile Demir
:D birer ucundan başlayalım !!
- OSMANOVİĆ
bu arada yiyedebilirim kelimesi yanlış mıdır acaba :) şimdi Ebru hocam düzeltmesin sakın :))
- Cemile Demir
bence doğru!!!-de yi ayrı yazdınmıydı!!börfekt!
- OSMANOVİĆ
tamam o zaman "yiye debilirim" :))
- Cemile Demir
hahahahhahahahaa:) cemile çok şukelasınn!!!bence; o zaman yiye de bilirim mi desek acubağğğ???
- OSMANOVİĆ
yes doğrusu o
- Nur
:D Nur bebeğiiii!!!
- OSMANOVİĆ
:D hahahaha evet ya bende koptum kendime şimdi :))
- Cemile Demir
çok tatliydinnnn!!sakin silme:)
- OSMANOVİĆ
yok canım hiç silermiyim her okuyan gülmeli bence :))
- Cemile Demir
:)))))))))))))) şukelaaah!
- OSMANOVİĆ
ya bu arada çok merak ettim sormazsam çatlarım şukelah nedir yafuu :) cahilliğime ver ezgicim :))
- Cemile Demir
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üstümden neler geçmişşşş baksannaa ezgi nie gelmedin met gelmek isteidigini söyledii :=)
- elywart
şukelaaaaa!! :))) hahahah çok sevdim
- Hande Ünver
:))) ben de bayıldım :)
- Cemile Demir
vauuvv şeker gibi!
- merve şenoymak
Happy holidays from the FriendFeed crew! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
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Thanks to Kevin for another great logo...
- Bret Taylor
YAY! Snowmens!
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Cool logo! :)
- AJ Batac :)
I think they need scarves. They look cold.
- Yolanda
Great logo! Simple and fun.
- Brandon Titus
great :) çok sevdim bu logoyu :)
- Burak Budak
Cool :D
- Pedram
Kevin - that is an awesome logo!!!!!
- Susan Beebe
+102 for Bill Waterson references in picture Kevin or words Sinterclas
- SteVe C
cute but what happened to festivus this year?
- Laura Norvig
Merry Christmas to the FriendFeed team. You guys rock! FriendFeed reacts quickly and you're adding wonderful features all the time (Thanks soooo much for the "edit" feature.)
- Mitchell Tsai
Happy Festivus!
- ◄ani625Ξ ಠ_ಠ
Happy festive season to you all as well :)
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Happy Holidays!!!
- David Cook
love it~
- Sunny
Love!!!
- Bee
Glad you like it! (And glad people picked up on the Waterson influence :-)
- Kevin Fox
Merry Christmas! :D
- Ron
Happy Holidays FF crue -- you've made this an excellent and memorable year for many of us. Facebook couldn't have done it without you! :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
w00t you gave me the best online year in 15 years!!! ;p Thanks a lot, everyone, for what you've done here XD
- Zu from AOD
Merry Christmas to all
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Merry Christmas!
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Haha! I love horrified snowmen. Merry Christmas to FriendFeed!
- Chris Lasher
Joyeux Noel a tout le monde!
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Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays!
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Feliz navidad a ti!
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Thanks! Happy Holidarys! Merry Christmas!
- Bill Romanos
happy christmas, chanukah and kwanzaa.
- D. Eda Goze
happy chrismas and a happy new year!!!
- ethan meccage
Awwwww sniff
- Kevin Fox
Happy holidays! Take good care of yourselves and... enjoy those days off! <o> \o,
- Zu from AOD
Merry Christmas!
- Ian May
Tks and love you all !!!
- @Renchin@
ahh, the good ol' days.
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Happy Holidays FriendFeers! <superbump />
- AJ Batac :)
cool!!
- Ferzvladimir
*bump*
- imabonehead
Sigh. Sometimes it is the little touches, like seasonal logos or easter eggs, that mark a site as a living project, and that you really miss when the developers have all moved on to something else.
- Michael R. Bernstein
ای جان چقدر خوبه این
- WALL.E
1 yıl geçmiş üzerinden bretim taylorum vay anasına dimi..
- Taylan GERDAN (Tylolhot)
Second Official Trailer for Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland - http://www.firstshowing.net/2009...
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"Disney has just debut a second full-length trailer for Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland tonight that will also be attached to most prints of Avatar this weekend (in 3D as well). Everyone went crazy over the first trailer, but you ain't seen nothing yet, as this one blows that old trailer right out of the water! Alice on Wonderland stars Mia Wasikowska, Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter, Anne Hathaway, Crispin Glover, Stephen Fry, Christopher Lee, Michael Sheen, and Alan Rickman."
- Derrick
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I just need to go on record - I love Michael Sheen.
- Georgie Bestie
Must re-read before seeing the movie.
- Derrick
the Mad Hatter looks like he's in Split Enz. actually, they all do.
- Joe The Sausage
*jizzes in pants*
- Hookuh Tinypants
Derrick, this looks like a "15 years later" thing, which is an interesting idea. I don't think rereading will do much, unless you want to refamiliarize yourself with the characters.
- DJF
DJF, I read the book in college against my will. I do want to revisit it on my terms, although I'm sure the filmed version as envisioned by Burton will have his fingerprints all over it. Also, I'm trying to read more (am online WAY too much).
- Derrick
if you want to really geek out, try to find a copy of "More Annotated Alice", an annotated edition with annotations by Martin Gardner. One of my favourite annotations is all the foreign language translations of "Jabberwocky."
- DJF
Can we please find a way to break up Tim Burton and Johnny Depp. Bad things seem to happen when they team up. Wonderful, magical, whimsical, utterly horrible bad things.
- Noah Belson
"Tim Burton's Winnie the Pooh, starring Johnny Depp."
- Michael R. Bernstein
Tim Burton's Pinnochio, starring Johnny Depp.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Tim Burton's Snow White, starring Johnny Depp.
- Michael R. Bernstein
lets hope Burton doesn't butcher another classic like he did with Charley And The Chocolate Wankfest
- Toby Graham
That's not entirely his fault though, I mean, Johnny Depp won't ever be Gene Wilder.Just watched the trailer: it looks horrible. The writing looks wholly underwhelming and I really really don't like the animation style.
- Will Higgins™
Agree totally with the underwhelming part, not impressed
- Mo Kargas
I hated his interpretation of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. And I do wish he would break up at least temporarily with Depp. Also, stretch out Burton! What if he made a heist movie, or a legal drama? Or remade Do The Right Thing?
- Derrick
Yeah, but a Burton heist would be a thin pale bank robber stealing all of the Love from the Vault of Metaphors. In claymation.
- Pete
:((((((((((((( Pete.
- Derrick
I'm sinister, remember ;) Sinister and harsh :D
- Pete
Burton is a washed-up sell-out, who is now owned by Hollywood. Discuss.
- Will Higgins™
I'm mixed about this. I think Johnny would be a good Mad Hatter, but I'm not sure about Tim Burton as the director. And I have to agree with Charley and the Chocolate Factory, the only one to play Willy Wonka is Gene Wilder, not Johnny. Johnny freaks me out.
- Mol, FF Music Lover
if Burton does Winnie The Pooh then i want Mos Def as Tigger.
- Joe The Sausage
Tim Burton's Fritz the Cat, starring Johnny Depp. Live action, of course.
- Michael R. Bernstein
If American McGee (everyone: "Who?") can put his name on Alice, I think Tim Burton can too.
- Andrew C (✓)
Tim Burton's Strawberry Shortcake, starring Johhny Depp. (reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos... )
- Michael R. Bernstein
For which image the Penny Arcade guys got a takedown notice.
- DJF
...thereby making the image notorious, and *ensuring* that it would be widely available.
- Michael R. Bernstein
i have my new desktop background now.
- Joe The Sausage
I still say the Mad Hatter looks more like Elijah Wood than it does Johnny Depp.
- Derrick
What's the Best-designed Web Site of 2009? - http://www.fastcompany.com/blog...
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