"The Administration is seeking public input on access to publicly-funded research results, such as those that appear in academic and scholarly journal articles. Currently, the National Institutes of Health require that research funded by its grants be made available to the public online at no charge within 12 months of publication. The Administration is seeking views as to whether this policy should be extended to other science agencies and, if so, how it should be implemented."
- Hilary
From the Office of Science and Technology Policy: "The question that this Forum will address is: To what extent and under what circumstances should such research articles—funded by taxpayers but with value added by scholarly publishers—be made freely available on the Internet?"... the first phase of the forum plan requests input on Implementation: who should enact policies, how should such a policy be designed... The OSTP is requesting input from the public and various stakeholders.
- Hilary
"Publisher lawsuit against public university that makes electronic copies of course readings available to students without paying royalty fees."
- Hilary
"Clearly modeled after PubMed, PubSCIENCE wanted to attract scientists and the general public to its information. Noting that the U.S. federal government funds 80 to 90 percent of scientific research and development, [the Department of Energy] touts PubSCIENCE as a significant taxpayer benefit. The private sector never saw it that way. Since its inception, PubSCIENCE has been a target. Database producers and some scholarly publishers felt threatened by the free availability of peer-reviewed scientific information."
- Hilary
DOE/OSTI keeps trying. Worldwide science and science.gov and other things. I think that original one had too much competition, too many naysayers, and was too expensive while not being that effective.
- Christina Pikas
Journal publishing in the humanities is much more expensive than in the sciences with a much lower acceptance rate: "Waltham estimates an average of almost $526 per page published in these journals, as compared to an average of just $266 in STM journals." Another surprising fact: "more than half of our institutional subscribers have opted for print-only subscriptions"
- Hilary
Some interesting observations on legal scholarship: "In the past five years, legal blogs have become an acknowledged and accepted part of the world of legal scholarship....Citations in the Westlaw JLR database are an imperfect metric, but they tend to confirm the change. Consider the number of times that the phrase “Volokh Conspiracy” and/or “volokh.com” appeared in the database...In 2005, the phrases appeared 24 times in the JLR database. The year 2009 isn’t over yet, with roughly 20–30% of issues schedule for a 2009 publication not yet out and on Westlaw. Still, the phrases have appeared 108 times so far in the JLR database."
- Hilary
When we visited Paris I really liked how they brought the card reader to you, so your credit card is never taken to some back room for 5 minutes like it is here. Square solves that. Also email receipts? Sign me up.
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
This is oddly similar to what I hear PayPal started as. It was before smartphones, and it never really caught on, but I think their original business model was around a mobile payment device of sorts.
- Keith Bourgoin
I want email receipts to be done at a lower level, by visa/mastercard/amex. Start offering vendors new card readers that optionally allow you to receive an email receipt but without ever providing your email address to the vendor. For example Citi knows my email address already so it shouldn't be difficult.
- Benjamin Golub
On second thought, I absolutely would not let somebody swipe my card through their iPhone. It seems like somebody stealing my information to me. I don't care about receipts via email or any other method. It would be nice to be able to accept credit card payments from other people easily, but Paypal has that working pretty much direct from iPhone to iPhone at this point, if only they could get their fees problem worked out.
- Otto
Something tells me this is not as simple as the Square site would lead one to believe. No fees for payers or payees? How is the data secured? What, if any, restrictions are there on use of the data? Square is probably not subject to the same regulations as banks or credit card companies. Photo ID required as a buyer? That's an additional requirement over traditional credit card...
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- LogEx
I was also skeptical - the only requirement is an audio jack? I'm assuming there needs to be some net capability - unless they're transferring data over a phone call...? and why will you need to swipe the card when so many cc companies are switching to RFIDs?
- Hilary
This is also likely to make oh so common cell phone theft suddenly a major data privacy concern. My card was cancelled 3 times in the past year alone due to breaches at unnamed retailers, which was a huge pain.
- Hilary
Hilary, you're right about the dangers of increasing the already significant concentration of personal information/power contained in a cell phone. RFID credit cards are, thankfully, not ubiquitous yet. I'll stop using them if that ever becomes the only choice. I assume that he audio jack links up to some kind of audio band digitizer... weird.
- LogEx
Will the receipts be able to contain more transaction information : i.e. items purchased for return/exchange purposes?
- Bryce Roney
it is! I also sort of love how PLoS One seems to be becoming the meta-analysis organ of choice for scientific journal publishing.
- D0r0th34
"The effect of press releases, and popular press coverage more generally, on citation counts is an open question which deserves further study [2]." - yes.
- Daniel Mietchen
By Theresa Velden and Carl Lagoze: "New web-based models of scholarly communication have made a significant impact in some scientific disciplines, but chemistry is not one of them. What has prevented the widespread adoption of these developments by chemists — and what are the prospects for adoption over time?"
- Hilary
With a discussion of the role of open access, data sharing, electronic lab notebooks, preprint servers, and blogs in chemistry communication.
- Hilary
I think the latter part of the article by Velden and Lagoze hit the nail on the head albeit sideways. There is a lot of chemistry disciplines and the pharmaceutical and beauty industry would be especially open to espionage. There is also the issues of security with the organic chemistry field as research from that branch could be turned into catastrophic weapons of mass destruction. The...
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- Aaron Kendrick
so given that those fields are only small parts of a decentralized whole, why should they hold the rest of the discipline hostage?
- D0r0th34
Aaron: is that scenario realistic? the knowledge and facilities required to make nuclear or biological weapons are considerable. simpler methods such as guns or explosives may still be a more effective and reliable means for violence
- Mike Chelen
it is confusing that this article states "Hardly any established scientists maintain a blog" then cites an article http://dx.doi.org/10... which says "they contribute to the current practice and reputation of science as much as, if not more than, any popular scientific work or visual presentation" - how could blogs be so influential with supposedly no participation from established scientists?
- Mike Chelen
Security of biological weapons is a much more serious issue than for chemicals. Mustard gas is nasty but limited in spread, and most seriously nasty chemicals are natural in origin anyway. On top of that I think its been reasonably well established that security in e.g. cryptography is best served by an open approach. Espionage similarly is a separate issue. What we have at the moment...
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- Cameron Neylon
i definitely don't think the issue is about weapons/weaponization, an undergrad in chemistry (or a high school kid who can read on the internet) should know enough to make some serious bombs. Velden talked about her dissertation research at 4S. It was interesting how the members and PIs of the labs carefully do not reveal details of their work. They've had things scooped by other labs with more money/people so they don't talk about the details at conferences.
- Christina Pikas
This talk of "dangerous science" is a red herring for a discussion on Open Science. It could leave one not familiar with the chemistry publication process with a very false impression. With very rare exceptions, all the information required to synthesize explosives and other dangerous compounds is already contained in regular research papers. If anything Open Science could make science...
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- Jean-Claude Bradley
Finally got round to reading the Nat Chem article. Can we stop talking about weapons in this thread - totally irrelevant. The article makes some excellent points, particularly in the section "Chemistry distinguished". The "focus on creation" paragraph will irritate many, but there is an element of truth there, as anyone will acknowledge who spends much time reading organic synthesis or catalysis papers. When/where is the second workshop?
- Matthew Todd
"This paper is intended as a starting point for discussion on the possible future of scientific communication in chemistry, the value of new models of scientific communication enabled by web based technologies, and the necessary future steps to achieve the benefits of those new models. It is informed by a NSF sponsored workshop that was held on October 23-24, 2008 in Washington D.C. It provides an overview on the chemical communication system in chemistry and describes efforts to enhance scientific communication by introducing new web-based models of scientific communication. It observes that such innovations are still embryonic and have not yet found broad adoption and acceptance by the chemical community. The paper proceeds to analyze the reasons for this by identifying specific characteristics of the chemistry domain that relate to its research practices and socio-economic organization. It hypothesizes how these may influence communication practices, and produce resistance to...
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- Hilary
By Theresa Velden and Carl Lagoze, with input from myself and several others.
- Hilary
An analysis of acknowledgment statements (mostly in the computer science literature) - the authors compare acknowledgments to citations and finds that "[the] number of citations made to the most acknowledged individuals does not correlate well with the number of acknowledgments to those individuals".
- Hilary
A long report/book from the National Academies of Sciences with recommendations for how to address issues related to data sharing and code/software sharing. Several journal policies have been based on this, such as the PLoS journals statement on software sharing: http://www.plosone.org/static...
- Hilary
Peter Hirtle comments on the case with a view towards fair use - the case involved Blackwell, Elsevier, OUP, Sage and Wiley (spelled Wily here???) who sued a coursepack copying shop (Excel Copying) and its owner. Summary judgment has been granted in favor of the publishers. Excel argued first that the copying was permitted under UMich's licenses, and then that they did not engage in direct infringement because the students were doing the copying. The court also rejected a fair use defense "because Excel is a commercial operation, the purpose of the copying was not educational".
- Hilary
Hirtle wonders about the potential liability of libraries: "it is common for libraries to receive from a faculty member a copy of a course pack and place it on reserve (much as faculty members provided copies of their course packs to Excel). If a student then borrowed that course pack and copied it on a library photocopy machine, would the library be liable?" As the commercial nature of...
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- Hilary
Playing devil's advocate: I almost hope a library does get sued, because it's PAST time faculty felt the pain of their own decisions to blithely sign away rights to their own materials.
- D0r0th34
Problem is, D, if the *library* gets sued the faculty still might not feel it...?
- Bill Hooker
They'll feel it when the library cuts off reserves.
- D0r0th34
'Stanford will save “hundreds of thousands of dollars annually” by closing its physics library, said Michael A. Keller, the university librarian. That facility, one of 21 Stanford libraries, was chosen because most physics literature is available electronically, Keller said.' // Never thought about it this way before, but it makes sense. I guess centralized eprint repositories are not only "competing" with publishers, but also libraries?
- Wobbler
Absolutely. We have scientists of varying stripes here who proudly boast how little they use the (physical) library. However, the closing of small branch/departmental libraries is soon to be a nationwide trend, and not just in the hard sciences. Babysitting underused public spaces is just not the best use of librarian time or library resources these days.
- D0r0th34
Though the volume count is a bit of a red herring. Other than weeding, these books aren't going to be thrown out; they'll be consolidated with another collection.
- D0r0th34
Much as I'm a print person, what Dorothea sez: Smaller branches have been problematic for big academic libraries for a long time; they're expensive to run relative to value add. In disciplines where almost all the literature is electronic, it's hard to argue for maintaining the physical space *as a library.* (My alma mater, Berkeley, was consolidating smaller branches even when I was...
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- Walt Crawford
But won't this make the whole "institutional repositories + some kind of open protocol like OAI-PMH = OA win" a bit harder to realize?
- Wobbler
Er, it was ever easy? Besides, with any luck at ALL some of that librarian energy that isn't going into keeping the lights on might head for IRs or OA. (Yes, I'm dreaming.)
- D0r0th34
Hold on a second. I think I went on the wrong path somewhere. When Stanford says 'most physics literature is available electronically', did they mean arXiv or their own institutional repository? If it's the latter, then I confused "print versus digital" with "institutional versus disciplinary/centralized". And if that is the case, I guess it's not that big of a deal?
- Wobbler
They meant the formal published literature (bought by the library, of course, but not housed in a physical space) as well as arXiv and other OA resources, I suspect. As a rule, most faculty have absolutely no idea where a paper they're reading came from or who paid for it.
- D0r0th34
I see, OK thanks for clarifying that. That still means Open Access = everything digital = a bit of a problem for (some) librarians? Weird how I never considered that perspective before. I wonder how they (will) adapt to the increasing popularity/significance of OA and search engines for those OA sources? Other than being let go, of course.
- Wobbler
This information still doesn't organize, preserve, find, or evaluate itself. :) I'm thinking we'll have jobs for a good long while yet...
- D0r0th34
I see. Alright then :) Not sure if you've answered this before D0r0th34 (and if you did, I apologize for bringing it up again), but are you more for the "institutional repository + open protocol" route to OA or the "disciplinary/centralized repository" one?
- Wobbler
I don't care. OA is OA. Whatever works. Disciplinary is easier to sell to researchers, so fine by me. I'm still not out of a job -- remember that arXiv is run by Cornell University *Libraries*.
- D0r0th34
Any time. The danger in disciplinary repos, of course, is sustainability. If a disciplinary repo doesn't find an institution to be its sugar daddy, it may fold. (Google "Mana'o repository" to see what I'm talking about.) There's also some free riding going on in the library community -- many aren't ready to support OA with additional budget and staff resources at this juncture. I think that will change (I think it has to!) but faculty are still the prime movers.
- D0r0th34
It has also been a few years since I stepped into a library .. I don't even know where the UCSF library is. I am guessing that a lot of libraries already do this but given the shift to online shouldn't the role of the libraries include helping people find what they need using current tools. Ex - setting up automatic queries, getting suggestions on what to read via online bookmarking...
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- Pedro Beltrao
Mark Pilgrim's excellent book "Dive Into Python" was republished on Amazon.com, under the terms of his GNU Free Documentation License. This is driving his publisher nuts. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more - why aren't books by Doctorow, Lessig et al immediately republished by other publishers?
- Michael Nielsen
I wonder if we'll see more prominent examples of this. A plausible story to follow: some publishers will refuse to publish under CC (or GFDL) licenses, prominent authors like Doctorow, Lessig, Benkler et al will move to self-publishing, and services like Lulu might be off to the races.
- Michael Nielsen
How much more prominent than Lessig and Doctorow were you thinking exactly?
- D0r0th34
"more" as in "other". I've never really understood why (e.g.) Doctorow's publisher goes with a CC license. Any other publisher could easily release Doctorow's work, and could underprice it, since they wouldn't be paying royalties or an advance. And legally, if the CC license stood up, they'd be completely within rights.
- Michael Nielsen
Ah, gotcha. Well, I wouldn't touch Doctorow's work with a ten-foot pole, if I were a conniving publisher. 1) I'm still competing with free. 2) Doctorow would rip me up one side and down the other on BoingBoing for harming his print publisher. 3) Doctorow's fans are very engaged with him, so such a rip would very likely be bad for business.
- D0r0th34
D0r0th34: Point (1) is equally true of his print publisher. As for (2) and (3), any money made here is pure gravy for such a publisher - so what if you annoy a lot of fans? Heck, you can even reduce your risk, by arranging print runs based on how well the book debuts. (I'm not advocating it, especially, I just think this is likely to happen increasingly often, because there's a lot of commercial upside, and virtually no downside that I can see, if the CC licenses hold up in court.)
- Michael Nielsen
We'll see what sales end up looking like. Put it this way: "pure gravy" isn't, quite, because somebody still has to go out there and find books that can be exploited in this fashion and then typeset them (badly, admittedly; but consider a book like Pilgrim's, where bad typesetting harms meaning so much that nobody with half an ounce of sense will buy the offprint). Will there be enough gravy to cover these acquisitions costs? Honestly, I doubt it.
- D0r0th34
My guess is that someone like Doctorow gets a 6 figure advance. You can buy a lot of acquisitions and typesetting for that amount of money.
- Michael Nielsen
... I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt that. Doctorow's good, but he's still pretty much midlist from a mass-market publisher POV. I guess I can email and ask him.
- D0r0th34
Very interesting, but I fail to understand why anyone would want to buy a paper copy of the book rather than reading online as it is completely example driven and you need to be sitting in front of a computer to run the examples. I think a simple temporary solution to "third party" publishing would be to license the electronic version under CC-ND, whilst reserving all rights for the...
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- Matt Leifer
Even if he's getting a $30k advance, the republisher is still saving a huge amount of money.
- Michael Nielsen
Michael: You may be missing something about Doctorow's use of CC. He uses BY-NC-SA. If that's legally enforceable, and it probably is, he could sue any publisher who republished his material *for profit*--that's the NC clause. So, a key point is (4) There's an enormous downside if Doctorow wants to make a point (possibly with CC's support): You'd have a VERY weak legal stance. CC isn't waiving all rights, not unless it's CC0.
- Walt Crawford
Walt: Thanks for pointing that out, I'd completely forgotten. I imagine Lessig et al are similar. I wonder if the NC part of CC has ever been tested? Something like this might be an interesting test case. (Especially if a not-for-profit started up that republished, but not for profit. )
- Michael Nielsen
Well, Creative Commons spent a lot of expert lawyer time making sure the CC licenses were bulletproof. I'd guess a case involving a commercial publisher republishing a BY-NC book would be a slam-dunk. A nonprofit *that was not making profits from the book*--that might be interesting. There's been a LOT of discussion, and a survey, as to what us CC users think "NC" really means.
- Walt Crawford
BTW, the reason I got into asking academic publishers about this is that I am interested to know how I should license content that I am primarily intending to make available online, allowing as much freedom as possible, but that I might want to publish in print at a later date. Of course, most publishers don't have an actual policy on this and are very wary of discussing hypotheticals,...
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- Matt Leifer
Book or journal publishers, Matt? It makes a difference.
- D0r0th34
Book. With journal articles it is easy because I am in math/physics and they usually have a clear policy on arXiv preprints. Also, the availability of a free online version is not strongly correlated to journal sales at the moment, whereas it would be for a book.
- Matt Leifer
Okay. How important is the accumulated prestige of the publisher to you? Or is what really matters that the book be published and that you retain the rights you wish to? (I swear there is method to my madness here.) There are some full-OA uni-press-type outfits out there, but I don't know which of them do math/physics. Will research.
- D0r0th34
Hm - I can't find the "republished" version of Dive into Python on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/s... - does anyone know if it was yanked or maybe published under a different title? Does the GDFL require attribution (if not, then perhaps it was published under another name)?
- Hilary
@Matt: I may have misunderstood your comment above, but I don't think CC-ND prevents people from just printing the original version w/o significant alterations. The license says "The above rights may be exercised in all media and formats whether now known or hereafter devised" but that "you have no rights to make Adaptations" - an Adaptation is defined as "a form in which the Work may...
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- Hilary
Yes, you are right. I guess what we need is a license that gives the publisher exclusive rights for the print version, but applies CC-like provisions to electronic versions. I realize that this partly defeats the object of CC, but I figure that print versions will eventually become obsolete so it is only a temporary measure designed to allow academics to benefit from the prestige of an academic publisher, whilst still allowing freedom of information online.
- Matt Leifer
@Matt: I really like your idea. In some sense, every open content license is transitional, pending even more openness, so I agree that such compromises can help. That's part of the genius of CC in the first place, after all. Before CC, there were very few gradations in pre-written licenses; you could go all rights reserved, BSD-style or GFDL, and that was about it. Now, you can specify if attribution is needed, if derivative and commercial uses are OK, etc., and I think we are far more open for the options.
- Christopher Granade
"Academic abstention is the doctrine (never formally promulgated) that courts should defer to colleges and universities when it comes to matters like promotions, curricula, admission policies, grading, tenure, etc. The reasoning is that courts lack the competence to monitor academic behavior; they should get out of the way and let the professionals do the job....In 2009, courts still pay lip service to this doctrine but in practice, Amy Gajda tells us in her terrific new book, “The Trials of Academe,” they now boldly go where their predecessors feared to tread... “litigation and ‘rights talk’ have permeated every crease and wrinkle of academic life.”"
- Hilary
Has the increasing willingness of courts to rule on cases involving the ivory tower/s led to an increasing reliance by academics on a legal framework to navigate and frame academic disputes (e.g. use of contracts in academic work and the rise of explicit university IP policies), perhaps as an attempt to preempt legal problems? Or has the increasing use of contracts encouraged court...
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- Hilary
"The bulk of digital books in libraries are treated like printed ones: only one borrower can check out an e-book at a time, and for popular titles, patrons must wait in line just as they do for physical books. After two to three weeks, the e-book automatically expires from a reader’s account."
- Hilary
"Students with research interests in scientific data management, sharing and reuse have a unique opportunity to participate in the Open Data fellowship program. Open Data is an Integrative Graduate Education and Research Traineeship (IGERT) sponsored by NSF. Open Data fellows engage in a vibrant set of research activities at the University of Michigan in the conduct of responsible data-intensive science and engineering involving faculty and doctoral students from SI, Computer Science and Engineering, Bioinformatics, Materials Science, and Chemical Engineering."
- Hilary
This follows the earlier announcement of Cell Death & Disease, a new OA (-only and online-only) journal from NPG: http://www.nature.com/press_r...
- Hilary
Open access options - now online:- http://www.nature.com/ncomms... Authors can either publish through the traditional subscribed access route or make their paper open access through payment of an article-processing charge (APC). The article publication charge is as follows: * $5,000 (The Americas) * €3,570 (Europe) * ¥637,350 (Japan) * £3,035 (UK and Rest of World)
- Graham Steel
Wow. Five large makes this the most expensive author-side fee I know of. My (very) rough estimate of author-side charges for regular Nature articles (page fees and color charges) is ~$1700 per article, and my somewhat better estimate of average income-per-paper at TA journals is around $2100-2900 per article. Given that Nature probably spends more than average on editing, typesetting...
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- Bill Hooker
Higher than I would have pitched it certainly. I must write up the "Nature should have OA supported by submission charges" post at some point. Tough to see this as value for money unless the editorial support is really very special.
- Cameron Neylon
wow , those fees are way to high to get any traction. I know of several people that have problems even with the fees from PLoS or for example Mol Sys Bio (EMBO/Nature publishing). I would like to know what the rationale is for Nature Communications having a higher open access fee than MSB, a journal from the same publisher dedicated to high impact research (latest IF ~ 12).
- Pedro Beltrao
might the additional competition drive down the price?
- Mike Chelen
from IM
As a librarian well aware of the disconnect between pricing and value in the journal arena, I'm just SALIVATING at the idea of a price war. It's the transparency of prices *to researchers* that does it.
- D0r0th34
I just wish we had a mechanism at Drexel to pay such costs - I inquired with our library but there are no plans in the works
- Jean-Claude Bradley
Very few libraries do at this juncture. You'll have to keep asking. Also, go through faculty channels as well; does the money have to come from the libraries as long as it spends? Honestly, though, I'm concerned that if librarians and administrators just step into this breach without thinking first, we'll end up in the same stupid state we are now -- where researchers have no clue about...
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- D0r0th34
D - the reality is that I don't know any of my close colleagues who can afford 10K a year for OA publishing. In the last few proposals I wrote it was tough enough just getting within budget for absolute necessities.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
If librarians are going to cover OA fees, they should make it clear that that money has to come out of subscriptions. Publishing is an integral part of research, but researchers are used to ignoring its costs. For the cost of two Nat Comm OA papers you could get three in PLoS Biology and most of a fourth in PLoS ONE; or five papers in BMC Biology; or... ain't competition grand?
- Bill Hooker
Bill - I agree with that - even if it means getting Interlibrary Loans instead of paying for access to all current journals.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
Bill, I agree with you, but most of my librarian colleagues wouldn't, I'm afraid. There are times I am not proud of my profession. Jean-Claude, at the rate subscriptions are falling by the wayside you'll soon have to choose whether to fund publishing or reading. As for ILL, that isn't costless either, and (again) as subscriptions die, will anyone be available to ILL the material *from*?
- D0r0th34
D of course ILL costs something but isn't it possible to look at current usage of a journal and compare it with ILL costs - then get rid of subscriptions based strictly on economics?
- Jean-Claude Bradley
Sure. Libraries do it all the time. Faculty howl.
- D0r0th34
Jean-Claude: Do pay attention to the last sentence in Dorothea's earlier post: You can't use ILL if the last sucker--er, infinitely well funded--library cancels its subscription. And the number of academic libraries able to afford all the journals they might want is already, I believe, roughly zero.
- Walt Crawford
Worst case scenario - if no libraries carry a journal - can't a single article usually be purchased from the publisher?
- Jean-Claude Bradley
By an individual user, yes. By a library for continued access, usually not. The problem from a library's perspective is that we can't offer articles a la carte because we have no way to budget for it (cost is completely unpredictable), and we may have to pay multiple times for the same article for multiple users. It's a losing game for us -- not that we have any wins other than OA at this point.
- D0r0th34
Anders suggestion of adding citation information to the Google search API has been noticed by someone at google. Quote:"This is a really interesting suggestion. Could some of you elaborate on the use cases for a Scholar API? What kinds of applications would you make with it? The more the better :)"
- Pedro Beltrao
from Bookmarklet
If you are interested in this issue please follow the link and add some suggestions in the comments
- Pedro Beltrao
My comment: "Applications - the obvious one would be integration with Google Docs, allowing citations to be inserted and a bibliography to be formatted".
- Neil Saunders
I would love to have an API so that I could automatically maintain an online publication list with up-to-date citation counts for every publication.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
I'd could port my pubmed toys (http://www.cotch.net/assed/)... except that I probably wouldn't -- I have access to the superior Scopus so tend never to use GS anyway.
- Joe Dunckley
@Joe -- superior? All the comparative studies I've seen have indicated that both have their flaws and are best seen as complementary.
- Bill Hooker
Integration into other documents (G Docs, etc) would be mine.
- Deepak Singh
One of the biggest problems with Google Scholar is that it is hopelessly incomplete, and most scientists don't realize that. They start to happily compare people's citations counts. Bummer if it happens you published a bunch of papers that GS doesn't index..
- Alexander Griekspoor
Has it improved since it launched, Alexander?
- Maxine
++ for document integration and if one is being provocative an API that allows you to insert missing abstracts or correct mistakes?
- Cameron Neylon
I'd like an API so that I could find all the papers that cited a given reference.
- Pierre Lindenbaum
If anything, an API would allow for much easier systematic comparison with other citation services like Scopus/WoS...
- Hilary
(cc'd from the original page) +1 to this... Use cases: * Ego-searching. How many times have my articles been cited (lets face it, we all want to know this in real time :) ) * Universal reference format translator. EG, I have a list of references (1..N) in APA...reformat it for me into IEEE. Even better, I'm resubmitting a paper to a different journal that requires a different reference...
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- Fitzgerald Steele
being able to query for a specific author by last name first initial OR last name first name would be nice. GS currently fails at this, unfortunately. A search for "william gunn should return even the results where I'm listed as Gunn WG. Pubmed handles this fine. As far as the API goes, it's be nice to have a widget that keeps your citation stats for you (cited by X, Y new this month) etc.
- Mr. Gunn
integration into library catalog searches
- JSNFLMNG
"Tranche is a free and open source file sharing tool that enables collections of computers to easily share data sets. Designed and built with scientists and researchers in mind, Tranche can handle very large data sets, is secure, is scalable, and all data sets are citable in scientific journals"
- Hilary
The hashes seem to be a bit long to use as references, though...
- Jan Aerts
Hook'em up with DOIs for referencing, like peanut & jelly in a sandwich...
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
This is the endorsement from Nature Biotechnology that they mention on their website, Democratizing proteomics data - http://www.nature.com/nbt...: "The lack of raw data sets associated with proteomics and molecular-interaction papers is a long-standing and pernicious problem[...] This has begun to change, however, with the advent of the International...
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- 'Mummi' Thorisson
Jan - +1 on the hash URLs; would be good to at least have a URL-shortening alias thingy on there, like FriendFeed offers.
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
even better if it were a preservation-quality redirector such as an ARK or handle
- D0r0th34
what's different between DOI and ARK? long hashes are aren't too bad since a search URL...
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- Mike Chelen
Exactly - the short URLs would just be for convenience: DOI registration for each dataset would be a natural extra component to add to this system (along with a few other features I can think of, like feeds for new/updated datasets, OpenID login etc.).
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
BTW from dict.org: tranche = ' a portion of something (especially money)'
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
@Mike - apparently an ARK (Archival Resource Key, http://www.cdlib.org/inside...) does something akin to what a DOI does in terms of identifier persistence and whatnot. An ARK is an actual URL, whereas DOI by itself does not specify the resolution protocol (hence the http://dx.doi.org resolver service). Not too clear on in which domains ARKs are used, have never actually come across one of those in my work.
- 'Mummi' Thorisson
Mummi: wonder if the hashes could be resolved by multiple servers as well. thanks, that helped explain things a lot.
- Mike Chelen
Thanks for sharing, Hilary! Looks ideal for sharing of raw data from high-throughput sequencing, which has been a problem for us across multiple sites. And tranche in French is a slice of whatever - in the case that best springs to mind, brioche.
- Heather
So the hashes contain an MD5 and an SHA-1 and an SHA-256. Hope the rest of the system makes more sense :-)
- Eric Jain
With a college like MIT actively endorsing student blogs (uncensored!), I wonder if this might later encourage science blogging and open research when these students move on to become grad students, postdocs, and faculty...
- Hilary
hmm if you pay people to blog surely it will influence the content
- Jean-Claude Bradley
@Jean-Claude I disagree--so many of these 'we'll get the XXX's to blog for us!' strategies suffer because they offer no compensation and end up being perceived as pyramid schemes. Also, $10 an hour for a max of $40 a week? Come on, that's nothing...
- Mary Canady
True enough, Mary, but if you had a choice between a fully independent blog (or group of blogs) and another group whose authors were paid -- no matter how little -- to write the content, which would you trust more? Even if the money has no real effect, the perception of influence is important.
- Bill Hooker
Hasn't Warwick been doing this for a while in the UK? OK, it's not MIT...
- Peter Miller
Sounds ok to me. I think it's a great idea for opening the sciences up to internet interaction. @bill, what are the perks of writing for science blogs? There's no revenue sharing there??
- Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
Do you mean ScienceBlogs (Seed Media), or science blogs? The former do share advertising revenue with their bloggers. As for perks, I guess everyone gets something different out of blogging... I'm not saying it's a Bad Thing to pay bloggers, just that there's both potential for, and a likely perception of, pay-for-play.
- Bill Hooker
"This year, 25 freshmen applied for four new spots, and, Mr. McOwen said, it was hard to choose. " -- only 25?
- Mickey Schafer
My thoughts are similar to Bill's. If someone is already an active blogger and they get a small revenue stream down the road that is different from a non-blogger starting to blog because they get paid. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that but I think many people would assume there was a conflict of interest.
- Jean-Claude Bradley
Something that occurs to me on reading Jean-Claude's comment -- people like "us" (FFers), who are comfortable online, are probably less likely to be bothered about the potential conflict of interest -- we have multiple sources (many of them blogs that have passed our trust filters!) and bullshit meters in good working order, so we will sniff out pay-for-play if it happens. I can easily imagine, though, that anyone who is already a bit suspicious of blogs in general would be doubly suspicous of paid blogs.
- Bill Hooker
"NCBI developed an archival service to support research shared through new venues for rapid communication enabled by the internet. Introduced in August 2009, the archive, called Rapid Research Notes (RRN), allows users to access and cite research that is provided through participating publisher programs designed for immediate communication....PLoS Currents: Influenza, [is] the first collection being archived in RRN. NCBI expects the RRN archive to expand over time to include additional collections in other biomedical fields and other critical topics." All articles in the RRN archive are available under Creative Commons Licenses.
- Hilary
NB: the email provided on the about page (RRN@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) does not work :(
- Hilary
Stanford University loses patent rights for novel method of measuring HIV concentration - Clause in employment contract requiring researcher to assign rights trumped by agreement to "to *hereby* assign": http://www.patentlyo.com/patent...
At Stanford, all employees are required to sign an agreement promising to assign any future inventions that emerged from his/her employment to the university. This employee signed an agreement with Cetus to "hereby transfer" rights in the invention prior to actually assigning rights to Stanford. Therefore "[B]ecause Cetus’s legal title vested first, Holodniy no longer retained his rights, negating his subsequent assignment to Stanford during patent prosecution."
- Hilary
Per the comments at the bottom of this post, I would suspect this would lead to likely changes in Stanford's (and other universities') employee agreements which would automatically transfer rights upon creation of the invention.
- Hilary
I think this has been the case for a while - I used to work for a service that used Google Maps back in 2005 and the terms then basically granted G rights to use all the data that we collected and displayed on their maps.
- Hilary
This is the rollout of a redesign discussed back in Aug at an NLM meeting: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/pubs... (the presentation also provides a good overview of what has changed)
- Hilary