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Mobile Phones Become Essential Tool to Holiday Shopping - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Aware of the power of mobile phones, some offline retailers are using the technology to fight back. If someone standing in one store scans a product with ShopSavvy, for example, a retailer down the street could deliver the shopper a coupon for the same item. A major retailer is already doing that in a few test cities, including Seattle, said Alexander Muse, co-founder of Big in Japan, the start-up that created ShopSavvy. Other applications, including Yowza, use the GPS location information in cellphones to send shoppers coupons for stores within walking distance of where they’re standing. “This empowers consumers to make a smart decision,” Mr. Muse said. “Already, retailers are starting to figure out, ‘I need to be in this game.’
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
5 Reasons To Travel When You're Young - http://www.dumblittleman.com/2008...
Kaspar Manz liked this
My heart's pounding.
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WRITER'S TOOLBOX: 35 Best Tools for Writing Online - http://mashable.com/2008...
Absolute chest of goodies! Bookmark. Now.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Iceland still floats. We all float down here. When you're down here with us, you'll float too!
stephen king's "it" reference? 'cept for the iceland part :)
- James Todd
You got it ;-)
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Watchmen's 'Squid' Probem? Zack Synder Opens Up - http://www.newsarama.com/film...
David Young, Khyle, Ari Braginsky and 3 other people liked this
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- Steve Isaacs
I think he's right. Their solution is elegant.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
I want the squid!!!
- Steve Isaacs
I will be able to live without the Squid. Not so sure I like the Dr. Manhattan angle, but can see how it makes sense.
- Khyle
I want the squid too :(
- Ari Braginsky
call me churlish, but I find the absence or otherwise of the collosal cosmic squid insignificant in comparison to my annoyance at the fact that refer to Zack 'Synder' throughout the entirety of this interview.
- Dan Light
Forgot to buy milk. What little was left forced me to choose between coffee or breakfast Cheerios. People screamed, died. It was horrible.
I thought you were using Remember The Milk now? ;)
- Kaspar Manz
I am, it's horribly ironic. :p
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Isn't there video available of Obama's press conference today?
I've been looking for it too.
- Walter Jessen
Here's the first part, his talk: http://tinyurl.com/67kmeu
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Second part, media questions: http://tinyurl.com/5e3fwu
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Kevin Kelly: The Next Fifty Years of Science - http://videolectures.net/google_...
Patricia F. Anderson, Roger Chen, ivanandersson and 12 other people liked this
"Landmarks in the history of the scientific method are the invention of libraries, indexes, citations, controlled experiments, peer review, placebos, double blind experiments, randomization, and search among others. At the core of the scientific method is the structuring of information. In the next 50 years, as the technologies of information and knowledge accelerate, the nature of the scientific process will change even more than it has in the last 400 years. We can't predict what specific inventions will arise in the next 50 years, but based on long-term trends in epistemic tools, I believe we can speculate on how the scientific method itself -- that is, how we know -- will change in the next five decades."
- Michael Nielsen
"Why didn't the Chinese invent science?" This after noting that most of the big *inventions* were made first in China.
- j1m
His set-up is tantalizing, but in the end I didn't find his predictions about how the scientific method might change to be illuminating. Did I miss something?
- j1m
j1m - I have more or less the same response. I've seen or heard three talks by Kelly on this over the past few years, and all seem incomplete, works in progress. I still find them stimulating, though.
- Michael Nielsen
Did Kelly ever ever read history of science? Does he know how science made progress? It seems he has little clue. For starters, there is an excellent book called "history of ideas from invention of fire to sigmund freud" by peter watson. There is a nice line at the beginning where he says "science, contrary to the convention, did not exhibit linear progress. sometimes it went forth; sometimes it went backwards."
- Hayk H.
Kelly has also perhaps to acquaint himself a little more with Karl Popper and his masterpiece "logic of scientific discovery." From the way he expessed himself, he will be astonished and will learn a great deal of what he calls and praises as scientific method. And lastly, he must read the two books of Nicolas Taleb, "fooled by randomness" and "black swan." Perhaps when he does all that reading he might start sounding more credible.
- Hayk H.
Hayk - Why so negative? Kelly says many interesting thing, and asks many interesting questions. Since that is true, I do not think it matters whether he has read Taleb or not.
- Michael Nielsen
Michael, not really negative, rather sceptical. Merely the title "Next 50 years of science" suggests that he is not really aware of what he is talking about. Reading Taleb might have helped him think twice about predicting future in science. Does he know about Popper's view on principle of induction? Does he know that his beloved scientific method till now is very reliant on that principle? Does he know that most of sci breakthroughs happened by error, happenstance or by unanticipated twist of events?
- Hayk H.
My point is simple. A person talking about something must first do his homework. Yes, he says interesting stuff, but he leaves out huge gaps in his rationale - the title being a telling sign itself .
- Hayk H.
Kelly has clearly read enormous amounts on this subject. The difficulty he is facing is that it is simply impossible to read everything important that has been written related to his subject. Should he therefore give up? Applying your criterion, he should. I think that's wrong, and the appropriate criterion is much milder: can he say anything interesting on the subject? And I think the answer is yes.
- Michael Nielsen
Michael, I did not suggest he reads some very sophisticated stuff. Anyone who thinks of making claims about future of science must know its past, its trends. My suggested reading is IMHO an absolute minimum of what he should have known. He perhaps read extensively on the subject but he seems to have missed out on essentials. I agree with your criterion except that I don't really think he had that criterion in mind while giving the speech.
- Hayk H.
Michael, I am perhaps a little hardcore and negatively biased on this issue. The reason is my previous studies in science (nuclear physics). So let's agree to disagree on this point :)
- Hayk H.
If Kelly has not read Taleb and some of the works mentioned above, I'd be very surprised. I haven't heard the video yet, although I have a feeling that I will be disagreeing a lot :)
- Deepak Singh
Hayk, Just an FYI, Michael's also a scientist (quantum theory), so he's definitely also approaching it from a scientists perspective.
- Deepak Singh
Deepak - I think you probably will disagree with him a lot (as do I). What I enjoy is that Kelly's perspective is fresh; he has a great nose for things that are important which other people overlook.
- Michael Nielsen
Hayk, it sounds like you didn't even watch the video, but just read the title and decided to tear into Kelly on that basis? Kelly appears, in fact, to be an authority on the history of science. While my own knowledge is limited, I didn't notice anything that was inconsistent with Popper's ideas. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to hear your criticisms if you can express them clearly (perhaps in a blog post?) but so far all you've done is drop names left and right -- not very convincing.
- j1m
Michael, very true, which is why I read his blog/writing a lot
- Deepak Singh
http://www.edge.org/documen... -Useful link about topic.
- Ahmet Yükseltürk
Hakobyan: The further back you go, the history of science and the scientific method becomes less reliable as an indicator of how they will progress. Prediction must take into consideration how we're augmenting our intelligence with medicine, machines and other aids, in addition to stand alone autonomous systems. Most of these have made their debut in the last 50 years, and advances in the last 20 years are unprecedented.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
@Deepak, I know that Michael is a scientist. @j1m, you had the wrong impression. I did watch it and that is one of the reasons I dropped few names like Popper because he mentions Popper and his falsifiability theory in it. I and Michael debated whether what his speech was any good and Michael found it better than I did. @Hrafn, you are right, but consider that at each point of time in history science was "perceived" better and "unprecedented" than ever before.
- Hayk H.
@j1m, the reason I dropped names instead of going into a longer discussion that each of those names might have implied was my thought, perhaps erroneous, that this thread is hosting people who are mostly acquanted with these names and that I had no further need for elaboration. @Ahmet, thanks a lot for the EDGE link!
- Hayk H.
@j1m, to rectify my wrong assumption. Popper came up with what is now called black swan. This is an event unprecedented and unpredicted by any existing theory. When a black swan was discovered in Australia, all theories, including of course mathematical induction, refuting possibility of existence of black swan were refuted. Hence, Popper criticizes the principle of induction, which so many scientists currently used for their theories. Much of what Kelly was saying was based on assumption of induction.
- Hayk H.
My last post for this thread today. Popper's idea was picked by Taleb who wrote the book called black swan. He claimed that history of science and ideas has never been linear. Kelly, in all his overview of science and predictions, never realises or mentions it. He also never realises that the randomness and unpredictability have played a major role in the progress of humanity. I think now it should be clearer by what I meant. Blog? perhaps.
- Hayk H.
Hayk - How is induction critical to Kelly's argument? I didn't notice it as crucial in any way. As regards the Taleb comment: to my eye, Kelly is not only aware of how twisted the process of science is, he appears to be far more knowledgeable on this front than most scientists. (This statement is based not just on this talk, but on my reading of him over many years.) You can, of course, cry "black swan" to _any_ attempt to think about the future, and it's become fashionable to do so, but... [cont]
- Michael Nielsen
... it's not clear that produces much insight.
- Michael Nielsen
Billy Crudup On Working With The Green Screen For 'Watchmen' - http://community.livejournal.com/ohnothe...
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"All giant, superhero vehicles aside, one burning question remains for those who have read the "Watchmen" graphic novel — will Dr. Manhattan remain pants-less, and if so, did Crudup go commando for the role? "I did all my shots in the nude so if you see anything, it was totally me. It was totally me."" on ONTD.
- Eula
from Bookmarklet
@Eula - Snyder actually answered that one by saying something along the lines of "it's an R-rated movie ...". So probably!
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
At the ComicCon panel he alluded that Dr. M would be nekkid.
- Steve Isaacs
Educational Qualifications: Obama and Biden vs. McCain and Palin - http://onemansblog.com/2008...
Why is this not a bigger issue in the political debate?
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Will Watchmen Be Delayed? | /Film - http://www.slashfilm.com/2008...
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I hope not.
- Pete Delucchi
from Bookmarklet
Let's not jump to conclusions.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
I doubt it
- Marc Berry
Maybe WB can add the payout for this lawsuit to the "marketing budget."
- Ian Casselberry
I think anonymous blogging and popular science blogging is bad for science. The argument was made that blogging can be bad for your carreer... anynomous popular science blogging don't help convince the science die hards that blogging can be a better science publishing model too...
Neil Saunders, Pierre Lindenbaum, Hrafn Th. Thórisson and Deepak Singh liked this
The fact that a Yale-PhD (or was it Harvard) goes into publishing does not help either...
- Egon Willighagen
Someone just made a point that their might be room for anonymoucity (how is that spelled???)... let's remind ourselves that peer review is anonymous too.
- Egon Willighagen
@Egon - It's "anonymity" ;)
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Anonymous blogging is almost always bad. The only exceptions I can think of are where people are rocking the establishment, with potential career, other implications
- Deepak Singh
The problem is half the time people think they will be in trouble, when in reality they are not. I have always worked out the boundaries on my blogging with my employers up front.
- Deepak Singh
Eva ... so true
- Deepak Singh
Estimating surface depth from two digital images taken from the same viewpoint - http://smart-machines.blogspot.com/2008...
Awesome. Here come the 3D models of yourself captured by webcams. Mark my words.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
The lawsuit snails on. - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
Ngngngngngng. I swear, if this retardedness screws up the release...
- David Young
It won't. Otherwise we'll team up and go steal the reels.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Spielberg and Jackson Remain In Place For ‘Tintin’ Trilogy - http://geeksofdoom.com/2008...
Tintin FTW!
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
More ‘Red Dwarf’ On The Way? - http://geeksofdoom.com/2008...
Red Dwarf FTW!
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The insidious "Assassinate Obama" meme - http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2008...
Fucked world we live in.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
When it comes to publishing research, people are metadata ... correct?
Chris Loft, Sally Church, Andrew Walkingshaw and Benedikt Koehler liked this
does this mean a metadata begot the data first?
- Arunn
I wouldn't say that. But I'd be curious to hear your reasoning.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
I was thinking along the lines of literature mining. What would your primary information be, and what would be the associated metadata. In most cases, from where I stand, I would search for the science first and then associate people
- Deepak Singh
Surely people are a resource? The metadata is the hyperlink that connects the data resource to the person resource? You then traverse the graph in different ways depending on what you want to do. Which is a complicated way of saying it depends on what your focus is.
- Cameron Neylon
I agree with Cameron: people are not metadata, but the information on who wrote which publications is.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
Cameron, great point. Must say I agree. Thanks
- Deepak Singh
To be fair I read your question just after watching Andrew W's recent presentation where he said more or less exactly that :-)
- Cameron Neylon
Citations 2.0! Wonder if I can wedge that into my academic CV somehow.
- Andrew Walkingshaw
One of Andrew's slides is why I asked the question.
- Deepak Singh
Any chance I could see a crosswalk (;
- Garret McMahon
Fox's 'Watchmen' lawsuit heats up - http://www.variety.com/article...
Eula liked this
Much ado about nothing (except in litigation) or cause for concern?
- Ian Casselberry
It has to be close to impossible for the movie to get pulled this late in production. They'll spend millions to settle before that happens.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Think Artificial featured on a "Top 100 CuttingEdge Science Blogs". It was nice to wake up that mail http://www.x-raytechnicianschools.org/alabama...
Pawel Szczesny and Deepak Singh liked this
Congratulations!! :) What a nice honor.
- Esther
Thanks Esther :)
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
‘Watchmen’ Teaser Trailer - http://geeksofdoom.com/2008...
Steve Isaacs liked this
Sweeeeet. (excited)
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Host Your Own Lifestream With Sweetcron - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Open source alternative to friendfeed.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Quantum Leap - http://www.kurzweilai.net/news...
No fucking way! Man.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
The future of science - http://michaelnielsen.org/blog...
Hilary, Thomas Brox Røst, Amund Tveit and 3 other people liked this
Great article touching on important topics.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Letter to Second Life Residents - http://blog.secondlife.com/2008...
Nice summary of what Linden Lab is up to.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Detect which sites a web user visits - http://www.hackszine.com/blog...
Pretty sweet: "By querying the default URLs that belong to all the major social network sites, you can figure out which sites a particular user visits and custom tailor any social badges that you display. If they use del.icio.us, you show a del.icio.us link. If they visit Digg, you show the Digg button. It's an awesome feature made possible by a pretty freaky security leak."
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Practical Blogging Tips: Why Write Short Fiction? - http://performancing.com/bloggin...
I've been thinking about publishing short science fiction stories. This is good for motivation.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Adobe Illustrator Tutorials - Best Of | Tutorials | Smashing Magazine - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
Excellent selection of tutorials.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Adobe Illustrator Tutorials - Best Of | Tutorials | Smashing Magazine - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
Excellent selection of tutorials.
- Hrafn Th. Thórisson
Unbelievable Flash Program
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