This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- pb:
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- pb:
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- SteVe C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- The original Kevin
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- The Real sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Another word and the forces will abolish all forms of Cilantro on this planet called Earth, message received from Planet Janet
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
Message to Planet Janet: you know you love it with cilantro, baby.
- Steven Perez
Now see this is the interesting thing: if anybody posts, then you have to. So if everybody keeps posting, you'll just have to keep up with us. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
- caj needs a haircut
Debating tip: never try to get in the last word. Always give your opponent the opportunity to get in the last word. By some sort of mysterious karmic law, your persuasiveness will improve immeasurably. :)
- Sean McBride
Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh!!! As long as he doesn't respond.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
So... it's kind of like a "tontine" but with a pretty weak payoff?
- Mark J
It's okay, he's got a Catch-22 now. Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh, so long as he doesn't respond. And we all know he refutes his Bunneh status.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
It was real hawt in the town that night! IF I EDIT 18 hours later like now - is your last still last if comments are disabled? A hawt question.
- Steve Cleary
Steven is a Bunneh!!! He responded when I said he wasn't. Bunneh's can win if they want.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
You did see where I said that I like my food scared and running, yeah? Mmmmm, ferret-ka-bobs ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
I do indeed see where this is headed, and no sir, I don't like it. *calls upon the forces of Voltron
- T-Bone Tsali, FF Cherokee
from IM
Sadly, the only Voltron to heed your call is the vehicle Voltron. And I disabled that yo-yo by pulling out the sparks plugs in the car feet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It's an old Navajo word for "punk-ass bitch".
- Steven Perez
from IM
No one has the slightest idea how much Steven is enjoying this...
- Abhishek
very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY
- Steven Perez
from IM
hmm... 800+ comments on this thread, and this is my first, and probably last comment on this thread. I wonder should I read all the comments, or just post?
- Mike Nencetti
Are you guys still trying to win?
- Steven Perez
from IM
23 years from now, Steven will still check his MSGoogle MyFriendFace feed every morning so he can respond to this post with 3,137,783 comments...
- Just Joe
from iPod
After half a month there must have been moment you thought it would not be a real big deal if you eventually should NOT have the last word, I suppose?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Now that you've nearly reached 1100 comments, I realized that I hadn't officially "liked" this yet! Error rectified, though you're clearly a comment whore, you show great panache while doing so!
- Mark J
Ohhh, you mean that place, which is totally faked by a #viciousbunneh who was in cahoots with the government in taking all the alfalfa plants into an underground hidden bunker.
- T-Bone Tsali, FF Cherokee
Now that I have achieved status of half-centurian, I request the next 50 days of last word in honor of my achievement of breathing.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
Well, well, well. Has it been 50 days already?
- Steven Perez
I will allow you to have the last word. But to take that last word you are surrendering your honor to a den of sightless whores.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
It was a test. Honor is pride. A den of sightless whores is merely an event that you will carry forever. You have attained the 7th level of enlightenment.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Considering that this thread has only been around since August, and has been shut down for the last two months, that's not too bad.
- Steven Perez
from IM
2012 is just the begining of the 13th Baktun, the long cont calendar doesn't actually run out until sometimes after 4772, that is of course if you stick with only Baktuns and don't use the other 4 higher counts, I just think FF will end in 4217 on planet Tersanzar :)
- T-Bone Tsali, FF Cherokee
Ah, right thread. In that thread, it's asked what you think you smell like. In this thread, I told you what I think you smell like.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Cilantro, Strawberries, and Chilaquiles.
- Steven Perez
I think this has lasted long enough. We already know what has to be the last word, it's already in the original quote. I will put it as the closing comment. I think we will all feel relieved we can now carry on to do greater things. For ourselves, our loved ones and the world.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I dunno, the Akiva nipple-licking beach picture is pretty long, too. :-) Ah, and it looks like Mike Nayyar's last-word thread has more than 2200 comments in it. I guess we'll have to step it up over here, huh?
- Ladyepiphanybug
Dude, FPGAs may be more flexible than ASICs but um... squirrel!
- Louis Gray
I think squirrels can be synthesized in Altera's next generation of parts. This generation can only handle half a squirrel. Unfortunately half a squirrel is disappointingly non-functional.
- DGentry
I've been out on the tundra on one of these tours, I would have LOVED to have a bear stick his nose in and say Hi. They're such beautiful and incredible animals
- Will Higgins™
"Okay guys, who left the window open again?!"
- Holger Eilhard
...this reminds me of the Far Side comic where two polar bears are hovering over igloos, and one says to the other: "I don't know what you call them, but I love eating these things... they're chewy on the insides."
- .LAG liked that
Friendfeed displays this as a link to codingrelic.geekhold.com, but the original tweet was a bit.ly URL. My theory was: twitter used to match keyword searches in the unshortened URLs, but it didn't seem to be doing so for several of my recent tweets. It looked like they were deliberately excluding the host portion of the URL, and only matching in path names.
- DGentry
As it turns out, this tweet did get indexed and could be found by searching for geekhold or codingrelic. So my previous tweets which didn't were just glitches.
- DGentry
Next we swung by the house to pick up the dog, and headed to the dog park. I suspect the kids snuck the dog some sugar, or perhaps he just licked the residue from their faces.
- DGentry
When they started trying to eat the dog, it clued me in that the kids might be hungry. Next up: lunch!
- DGentry
Details of the diaper changes shall remain mercifully absent from this parenting travelogue. Next up: nap.
- DGentry
Nap-ability confirmed, and achieved. Just me and the eldest now, who no longer naps. As nature abhors a vacuum, she has dialed up her exertion (and the resulting volume) to 3x its former intensity.
- DGentry
Next up: Candyland with the eldest sprog while the other two nap.
- DGentry
Played poker with my older two boys today. They cleaned me out. :)
- Micah
from Android
To close out this travelogue: we went to Sweet Tomatoes for dinner, where there is a very wide selection of vegetables for the kids to refuse to eat. All kids were asleep by 8:30 pm.
- DGentry
A would rise first if there was a surface for the other two to rest upon, and since it looks like they're all on resting on the same plane as the man's feet. A, is the answer.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Don't we need to know how much force the gentleman is pulling at?
- Alonzo Hayden
Nope force does not matter Alonzo. But good stalling tactic.
- SteVe C
Just so you guys know, I have no idea what the answer is. I feel like there isn't enough information, but that's probably me overthinking it.
- Rah-PM 2012
I'm going to say that C is the answer. A seems too easy based on weight and I think that the work will transfer first to the set of pulleys closest to the puller.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Rah, you can;t ask a question like this without knowing the answer . . . . can you?
- Friar Will (:^)
Unlike the airplane/treadmill problem, this one is unambiguous and has one correct answer. I think that answer is A.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
But the "This is a man" part is always ambiguous.
- Micah
My gut reaction is C for the same reason Scoble says. I was hoping someone had seen this problem somewhere before :)
- Rah-PM 2012
I'm guessing "C" - visualizing pulling the rope C has to move before B before A.
- WarLord
It's B or A. C is definitely out, because it doesn't matter what's first, but what has less downward force, you're just drawing the rope taught, so the weight with lowest force will rise first.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
What do you mean "I have no idea what the answer is."?? A lot of us will lose tonight's sleep.
- Guy
I'm pretty sure it's A. But I haven't been in physics class for a long time.
- <3Heather<3
Secret answer D: The rope would snap and the man would be sent flying by his own momentum into the inconveniently placed lava pit just out of frame.
- Joe "Brrzzzzzzt" Pierce
Oh didn't guess yet. Well all those years of college physics say I forget. Normal rule of thumb is a pulley divides work by half. Based on that rule I'd go B. but my brain isn't turned on today
- SteVe C
The rope is inelastic. So all the weights go up at the same time.
- The original Kevin
I have not only the answer, but an explanation that will be persuasive to everyone. Should I post the spoiler here, or put it somewhere else?
- Bruce Lewis
Might as well post it on your own feed, Bruce and link to it here.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yes, the friction totally threw that experiment off. Cool that he built something, though. His finding is wrong, and my explanation will be persuasive to everyone. Writing it up now.
- Bruce Lewis
My problem is that I assumed that this wasn't a straightforward question and so looked for the answer that wasn't straightforward.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I can analyze it as long as it's static, but when things start moving I have to get an ME.
- Kevin L
Assuming the numbers are weights, then it's A. The mechanical advantage on each weight is 2-fold, but identical across each of them. So the lightest weight lifts first, regardless of where it is. Only when it reaches the top and is blocked from moving will any of the other weights lift, because the man cannot put more than 10 pounds of tension on the line as long as the 20 pound weight...
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- Otto
OK, here's a follow-up question. Assume the man pulls A and B all the way to the top. Finally, C lifts off the ground. How many pounds of force is he exerting on the rope?
- Bruce Lewis
Total download force = 60+ 40 + 20 = 120. 3 free axles means at equilibrium, the force in each segment is 120/(3*2) = 20. So for each weight, the total upward force is 2 * 20 = 40... so weight A is the only one that will move up.
- Ken Morley
For Bruce's question the answer is 60/2 = 30 :o)
- Ken Morley
My mistake. Actually, I'd assumed all the weights were unsupported, so the total downward force doesn't change when A and B reach the top. The force should still be 120 / 6 = 20, not 30. If the weights are all sitting on the ground, then the forces in the rope will change as each weight leaves the ground, but A will still rise first....but I could be wrong :o) <I am... see below>
- Ken Morley
3 free pulleys x 2. Only the movable pulleys multiple the forces.
- Ken Morley
Ken, each weight is independent, so the factor of the pulley's benefit is 1/2, the third pulley in the sets are only changing the vector. And the benefit is non cumulative, since it's 1/2 for each weight.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Ken, the issue with that, is it's an individual weight, distributed, not independent weights. So each weight's force measure, is calculated independently.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
3 free pulleys, 120 total pounds, force = 120/3/2. What am I missing?
- Ken Morley
3 free pulleys? Labeled with a number right to left, which ones are free?
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
The ones on the weights are the only ones that can move, and so are the only ones that multiply the force.
- Ken Morley
But they don't multiply force, they only split the amount of effort required to lift that wait, it doesn't transfer over the entire system.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
"The addition of a fixed pulley to the single pulley system can yield an increase of advantage..." yes, but in that case the end is attached back to the weight, not fixed.
- Ken Morley
Okay my brain hurts... I'm going to bed and will reconsider in the morning ;o)
- Ken Morley
Ken, if we were talking about one 120 weight attached in the configuration, you would be correct. Independent weights don't work the same way.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Yes, W / 2 (free pulleys) / 2 = W/4 :o)
- Ken Morley
Assuming that the wheels turn equally, the force is equally spread across all the weights. Imagine pulling on the rope with 1lb of pressure - nothing moves, but the rope gets taught. Next, imagine 2 lbs of pressure - still nothing. Imagine increasing the force applied by small increments: at some point, the rope will transfer a force equal to the weight of one of the blocks. At that point, the block lifts off the ground, right?
- I like big Botts
Ken, here is an explanation, somewhat, http://ff.im/q9wKF, of why the diagrams on wikipedia are wrong, in application to this system. Each of these weights are independent and and thus examples of diagram 1, you can see this if you remove the 7 right most pulleys from the diagram, and then only the 3 right most after that. You end up with a system that only contains the 20[unit] weight, and a second that contains only the 20 and 40[unit] weights.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Computer programmers, you should be able to come up with the answer to my followup question, and with an explanation that's easily persuasive to everyone. Black-box abstraction is the key to simplifying this system.
- Bruce Lewis
For non-programmers: Black-box abstraction is enclosing a system in a mental black box, so that you only think about what's going in and/or out of the box, not what's inside. Don't be thrown off by the fancy word "abstraction". It's a way to think less, not think more. Maybe you can get the answer before any programmers do.
- Bruce Lewis
Jimminy, the key point is that In order for the starting position to be stable, the weights must all be supported by a surface. As the tension in the system is increased and reaches 10 lbs (I'm assuming the units are lbs), the first weight (A) will rise until it reaches the top (the other two pulleys are acting as fixed pulleys at this point). When the tension reaches 20 lbs the 'B' weight will rise. The 'C' weight will not move until the tension is increased to 30 lbs.
- Ken Morley
Just came across this from HN, Ken, the assumption is that the system is stable, due to the fact that the weights are all at the same distance from the pulley arm, also they are apparently at the same level as the mans feet. I also, it's cumulative, the mechanical advantage is only a factor of 2, so it's, 20/2, 10 lbs. to raise A, to raise A and be it's, (20+40)/2, 30 lbs, and to raise A, B, and C you would need 120/2, 60 lbs. Which may have been what you were saying, but I'm not quite sure.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Jimminy says 60 lbs, Ken says 30. If you're the one who's right, see if you can use black-box abstraction (see my comment above) to persuade the other.
- Bruce Lewis
Jimminy, the system can not be stable if the weights are not supported. Imagine if the weights are all sitting on a platform that is gradually lowered. What would happen? In your example above you are correct that 10 lbs of force is required to raise weight A, but when it reaches the top and runs out of rope, it is no longer acting as a pulley. It is as though it were just attached at...
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- Ken Morley
I'll guess A as well before I look at the 83 comments here and see what the answer is.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Hiding the thread, just thinking about having to think about it makes my head hurt :P
- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
Ken, considering, that the man is also standing on the same surface as the weights, nothing would change. Also, you still have to support weight A, even once it reaches the top, it is still a downward force, on the line, so you have to support it until you reach 20 lbs, then weight... Woah. It's 40 lb's required, to get all 3 off the ground. You have two parameters that have to be met,...
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- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I'd like you guys to hover over the picture to see what company is asking this question on an employment application. I'm pretty sure they wanted a common sense answer that an average person would know, but it's obviously just not that simple of a question :)
- Rah-PM 2012
I just read Otto's comment more carefully, and I disagree about A and B making 30 lbs of force to help lift C. A and B act as counterweights to each other, not just to C.
- Bruce Lewis
I suppose the easiest way to visualize what happens is to imagine them all being lifted to the middle. When you let go of all of them at the same time, C will drop down because it's heavier than A, so A will go up.
- Richard
My first guess is A. ***My father is a Mechanical engineer and he says A as well. *****************He says it would take 10lbs of force to lift A 20lbs to lift B and 30lbs to lift C.
- Jim