This and Ubernote are my favorite web apps (I use each a little differently).
- Big K
Evernote is a terrific tool for what I call "the blurt" - getting stuff of various kinds out of your head and into a place where you can file it, store it, and find it again if you need it. Probably 90% of "the blurt" I'll never need again - but as long as I have a system that lets me find that 10%, it doesn't matter.
- Ian Betteridge
WIthin hours. After Keynote you should be able to download it. Here is a link to iTunes 9 (iTunes link) when it is available. http://bit.ly/abCHe
- Adam Helweh
Nonsense. When does a bunch of features become a service? What if FF has more features than Twitter (it does) - is it somehow less of a service than Twitter?
- Leo Laporte
Charlie: Jason wants some engagement. Can't you tell?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You mean Friendfeed will become necessary infrastructure for any social network? I fail to see how that's a bad thing.
- Victor Ganata
We already have Guy Kawasaki, we don't need Ashton, or Oprah.
- Matt Ruiz
There's not a lot of discussion about a friendfeed business model, generally, in the blogosphere, is there? I wonder why this is? Friendfeed continue to innovate and come up with great ideas and ways to receive, filter and digest information and it's clear that other sites copy their ideas. I am definitely not keen for FF to go mainstream - personally I like the fact that I can keep my circle of friends here to those (primarily tech/web) folks that I want to gather information from and interact with.
- Matt Hooper
Jason is right though. I wonder what FriendFeed is going to be in the future. It clearly hasn't grown enough and isn't differentiated enough to be taken seriously.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
When Google Wave was first announced, I thought "Hey, it's a lot like FriendFeed." Maybe Google Wave stole it's thunder, but FriendFeed feels like what e-mail would look like if it was designed today.
- Scott Loganbill
Come to mention it, does anyone remember Google Wave since the announcement?
- Scott Loganbill
Scott: I'll remember it when it's actually released.
- Matt Ruiz
Actually... everything is a feature. 'Communication' is the service.
- Johnny Worthington
My point is that I don't think there is a viable business model for FF as a standalone business. FF as a feature set has already gone mainstream: It's called FACEBOOK. And FF-like features will be integrated into most social networks. FF like features will be "copied" and tightly integrated into other services. So where does that leave FF? How will FF make money? How will FF grow a...
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- Jason Goldberg
Err... Facebook was mainstream before it got the 'feature set'. Facebook exists based on ads that everyone hates and the only reason everyone is there is because everyone else is there... just like it was with Myspace. You are looking at the pork roast before you even fattened the pig. Think of all the massive online experiments that are now floundering. Digg was hot. Everyone had a...
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- Johnny Worthington
Jason - I think I know from where your comment comes :) XING is/will implement more or less ALL FF features. I have been watching for a while SocialMedian/XING and now in particular with XING Partner Ecosystem is you guys plan to open..this is where you are going. But ovearll I think you are missing the point that FF is not about features but about "communication and communities" . And its growing..
- TechFuga
I'm a big FF fan. It's an awesome service. The question I have is there a market for this as a sustainable standalone service?
- Jason Goldberg
FriendFeed is one on the online services I'd pay for. Effective aggregation of diverse social media feeds has both business and personal value. Such a service is only valuable if it integrates the feeds I want to see, not just one. Conversely, I would not pay for Facebook; its signal/noise ratio is far too low to be a useful aggregator, and appears to be evolving into an advertising platform.
- David Lounsbury
What Jason means is that "social" is a feature which will be integrated into everything. Friends, sharing, liking, commenting, etc will eventually find their into pretty-much every internet service, from writing documents through to video hosting. Google Reader is the first (but not only) example of this - and it may (and I emphasise "may", not "will") mean that friendfeed becomes redundant.
- Ian Betteridge
Your child has the most value after it has been potty trained and finished second grade. Do you sell it then?
- Todd Hoff
cool ! i want to see FF everywhere. in all social networks, I jus love to have mi FF in Twitter, Bing, Facebook,iLike
- Đoи яамoη
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This might hold water if Google Wave wasn't announced, or if you didn't listen to Bret Taylor at Crunchup. The future isn't FriendFeed-like features getting added to every walled garden social networking site: the future is federated social networking. It doesn't matter that you have the same features as someone else, in fact, that's to your benefit, because in the future, if you can't...
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- Mark Trapp
Another example of how flawed this line of thinking is: end of the 90s. Search was just a "feature" to larger portal sites. Guess who won? The one company that offered search as a service. The history of technology is littered with examples of winners who implemented one thing really well and losers who tried to do everything.
- Mark Trapp
I'm not convinced that Google Wave is going to be anything other than another walled garden, to be honest. But I don't think your argument really holds water, Mark. I remember not that long ago site owners who didn't want comments on content, and who argued that users' comments should be confined to linked-to forums - for exactly the same reasons you're outlining. Sharing, liking,...
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- Ian Betteridge
I think Mr. Goldberg could be on the money here. "Look, FF is an awesome service with a great early-adopter tech-savvy loyal userbase. But what does that get FF? Would someone acquire FF today for the userbase or the technology?" Nope, but maybe for the talented engineers. ;)
- Pete Delucchi
FF is a service, it might become just a feature under Facebook. Whichever service remains as an independent aggregator is where I'll move if that happens.
- Allred
from Android
Who is this guy and why are we concerned about his tales of the future?
- Fleagle
@Fleagle ... Jason Goldman started SocialMedian, a robust, and well-respected social media sharing service that's very similar in many respects to FF, and he sold it to, I think, Xing.
- .LAG liked that
A feature? The Friendfeed website seems much more of a viable service than Twitter.
- Hunt
from iPhone
Robert - Have been busy with 'new stuff' and just revisiting this. The argument is that there isn't any (argument). Of all the SERVICES I've used over the years, Friendfeed has been BY FAR the most innovative, productive (and/or fun). I'm not goin' anywhere and the more I think about it, the more I find it sad that they felt the need to sell at this juncture (although I can understand it). Count me among the many that hopes it stays right here.
- Charlie Anzman
I would photograph the wrestling match going on at my knees if I could.
- Rachel Lea Fox
that is the one thing I miss about having kittens (we tend to adopt adult strays) is their love of playing/attacking *everything*
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike, it is awesome that you adopt adult strays!!!! But you are right about their love of just getting everything, including me! It's one of the reasons I foster, i love this stage in their lives and it just makes me happy to have them around.
- Rachel Lea Fox
They're two completely different tools for completely different purposes. This is like saying a jackhammer is better or worse than an ironing board.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
Apple dominates Which? Desktop PCs: Best Buys - Apple was awarded 94 per cent in the 'Customer score' section, with Sony in second spot with 80 per cent and Novatech in third with 79 per cent. - http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac...
"Small businesses that received $682 million in IOUs from the state say California expects them to pay taxes on the worthless scraps of paper, but refuses to accept its own IOUs to pay debts or taxes. The vendors' federal class action claims the state is trying to balance its budget on their backs. Lead plaintiff Nancy Baird filled her contract with California to provide embroidered polo shirts to a youth camp run by the National Guard, but never was paid the $27,000 she was owed. She says California "paid" her with an IOU that two banks refused to accept - yet she had to pay California sales tax on the so-called "sale" of the uniforms."
- Paul Buchheit
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No kidding... I'd vote for a recall to put Davis back in office at this point. Maybe it's not all the governator's fault, but he hasn't been helping much.
- Jim Norris
Is it even the governor's fault? How much of the fault lies with the legislature?
- Gabe
We need to find the smartest man in the world, and then have him solve all our problems :)
- Paul Buchheit
Gray Davis is not the smartest man in the world... and I don't think this problem can be solved by one man, it's past that point. We're so far in the red, something drastic needs to occur---an exodus perhaps---I'll go first. ;)
- Brandon
It's not really the governor's fault, but he hasn't done much of anything to pressure the legislators in his party. I don't know too much about state politics but repealing Prop 13 couldn't hurt, and why not get rid of 8 too while we're at it.
- Jim Norris
The legislature definitely shares the blame, but it isn't like Schwarzenegger is immaculate. The legislature was just as a blame-worthy during the recall days, but only Davis took the fall.
- Victor Ganata
It's one thing to print your own currency. It's another to print worthless paper that's near impossible to redeem and exchange for other stores of value (then again, one could argue that the US Dollar is no longer a store of value one should consider).
- Aviv
Yes, one could argue that... feel free to exchange your dollars for CA IOUs in that case =)
- Jim Norris
Better hold US IOUs than California's own. :)
- Aviv
Paul wins for the followup Idiocracy reference.
- Jay Cuthrell
I suspect the aggregated voter-mandated funding formulas and tax mandates have made the state ungovernable. Neither the governor nor the legislature can balance a budget when 70% of it is off limits.
- DGentry
This is crap... wow. where's the integrity? how can I run a business and have this? I have a budget too.... #FAIL
- Susan Beebe
Macrumors rumored that Leopard was GM on 09/10/07. Confirmed on 18/10/07. Leopard was actually released on 26/10/07. So could we be seeing Snow Leopard on 01/09?
- Paul Grav
The key question will be: when migrating the FF userbase to FB, will we be required to de-anonimize ourselves, or will the FB adopt FF's current free-account name method? [re: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...]
… and what about the conflicts with "vanity account names" that already may exist on Facebook, like in my case http://facebook.com/ianf ? [yet to be taken, but I don't suppose it'll last for long. AMEND: nicknames must be at least 5 characters long, fine by me, but the FB should return that as "error" notification, not the generic "The page you requested was not found. You may have clicked an expired link or mistyped the address. Some web addresses are case sensitive."]
- ianf ⌘
I think all these questions are not in the FF-Devs minds. I would go even so far and say FB has no interest in 'us' FF users, so don't really expect they care about smooth migration. Their answer will be 'just create a FB account and do like the 250+ million FB users do". I fear thats too often the way things go.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Call it merging then, since FF can not be expected to survive on its own in•de•fi•ni•te•ly. I imagine there will be a transition period of perhaps a year or two, after which friendfeed.com/your-nick will be redirected either to top-level facebook.com, OR –if one so wishes– to facebook.com/your-nick-there. So there ;-))
- ianf ⌘
Yes, you should teleport yourself at once to the nearest photographer's studio, there to be immortalized in 2D in Technicolor in naked condition wrapped in satin sheets for added effect. Don't forget to scratch "celebrating sameness of FF and FB nicknames" on the back for posterity!
- ianf ⌘
It seems hard for people to grasp the fact that you can like a handful of products by a company, but not the company itself. Everyone has to be a fanboy one way or the other.
- Shafiq Jetha
Shafiq: Yes, totally. The problem is that too many people apply a "my country right or wrong" approach to Apple (and other companies, but with Apple it's very obvious).
- Ian Betteridge
It is a bit hypocritical to be honest. You are saying that you disagree with their practices but you continue to support them with your dollars anyway.
- Mark
I guess it depends on how severe the business practices are. If, for example, they were making Macs using badly-treated child labour I think not buying their products would be quite justified. But when it's issues which, to be honest, aren't in the same league (like locking down the iPhone) I think it's less certain. And to be honest, I don't think there's anything that Apple is doing...
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- Ian Betteridge
The handwringing is about as over the top as you'd expect.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Holy crap, Jason, you weren't kidding. People have lost their shit. It's like a bunch of Sarah Palins running around
- Eric Rice
It's the thing that's always kept me away from FriendFeed. The average type of user it appears to have attracted is an internet-obsessive with too much time on their hands and the ability to make a drama out of the slightest thing. Oh, and a god-given belief that FriendFeed is the only site on the web that is brilliant, and the answer to every question about what the web should be like....
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- Ian Betteridge
"One of the main reasons that most people are afraid to try Linux is because they have this preconceived notion about linux being too hard to use and difficult to maintain; or that they have to do something drastically differ ant and there is a steep learning curve to using linux."
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
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