friendfeedCommentAnchor [v0.1.0] - http://wittman.org/project... - A user script, a bookmarklet and an alternative configuration userscript (has autoCommentAnchor turned ON). To add a permalink to each comment. The hyperlinked text default is "#" (you can change it in the Configuration section to "permalink", "linky", etc in the user script). Works in single post and stream modes. Tested on Firefox and Safari.
- Micah
Special Note ~ Post image: NOT A HASH TAG :)
- Micah
I started the group ffhacks to house a concise listing of user scripts: http://friendfeed.com/ffhacks . If you have a script that works on the current version of FriendFeed, and you're its author, write a comment on http://friendfeed.com/ffhacks... with the link and I'll share the original friendfeed post to the group.
- Micah
Does it only work to other users with the script enabled?
- Andrew Trinh
The anchor is the comment <div> container id which has been there all along; there simply has not been a user interface to conveniently access it. So yes, a URL with the anchor will work for anyone regardless of script usage (tested in Firefox & Safari).
- Micah
ianf, yep. I try anyway. I remember one or two conversations you had anchors - I've wanted access them for a while too. Cheers!
- Micah
#hashanchors should have been there by default, so that you could spend your time on more creative things rather than fixing FF. In fact, absence of this key element of hypertext, granular addressability, tells me that FFeeders really do not care for comments - they're ffodder to the OPs, which are the only ones that rank anything in the hierarchy of submissions around here. I don't...
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- ianf ⌘
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- pb:
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- pb:
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- SteVe C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, apparently this is possible. Also, for iPhone Users outside the US, I notice that only one Google Voice app is available, as of, today in the App Store (this refers to the Ireland store but I presumes applies elsewhere in the EU and perhaps further afield too): VoiceCentral. Because none of the other (Google Voice) apps are available in the App Store I have a faint suspicion that VoiceCentral might just have been placed in a non US app store by mistake. So if you're non resident in the US, feel like using a proxy to set up your GV account, are an iPhone user and don't mind a couple of Euro punt on this app then, if I were you, I'd pile into the AppStore and get me a copy of VoiceCentral before its pulled by Apple. Enjoy and remember, if it doesn't work, don't blame me. For the record I've downloaded myself a copy but haven't yet attempted to try to set up a GoogleVoice account, I haven't even got an invite yet (There's a hint in there: if anyone can advise me, or help, on how to get a GV invitation I'd be very thankful for your help)
- JSLeFanu
from Bookmarklet
I set up a Google Voice account from Germany this weekend. I had to screen-share with a US colleague to get the initial registration done, afterward I used localphone.com to redirect calls. Voice Central works flawlessly.
- Lars Trieloff
Lars, thanks a million for the heads up on that. At least now I know another part of the picture for getting this done. I'm pretty jazzed at the thought of getting this set up. I'll report back on how I get on. Now to get one of those invites.
- JSLeFanu
How can Robert Nelson's public-knowledge reminder to rely on unnamed US-proxies to set it up, along with his fine print[*], be considered anywhere near useful? Lars Trieloff sez that "Voice Central works flawlessly," but what's the value of potentially-critical service which one can never know how long it may last? [^*] "fine print: if you choose to go this route only to have Google...
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- ianf ⌘
I did setup my Google Voice account using Hotspot Shield and forward all call to my sipgate.com number and I have a truphone.com US number that I linked. and I use my BlackBerry to control Google Voice and send/receive SMS
- zsafwan
This is purely academic enquiry in my part, but how many discrete steps were required (each moment of entering a site, navigating to a specific page, filling/ entering username/ password in a form, submitting/ registering, etc, counts as one step) for you to complete the GV registration, including any previous regs you now merely invoked in order to set it up? 100? 200 discrete steps? I wonder…
- ianf ⌘
ianf, I'm not very far down the road with this so I can't offer any real response to the issues you raise. I made the original post because I happened upon this article the same morning I spotted this GoogleVoice app in the Ireland App Store. Normally Apple don't stock apps for services not supported in the market of any given app store. SO for those of a "hacky" mindset I thought I'd just put the word out and attach the necessary caveats. I'm as interested as you are in the responses to your post.
- JSLeFanu
David, I'm not questioning any decisions any of you above may have made, I am merely trying to clarify certain usually-unmentioned things as much for others' sake, as for my own. I have not attempted this unofficial GV setup, and probably won't, because I have other, analogous experiences of past "bypass-ordinary-channel" services similar to that which seldom worked in the long run....
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- ianf ⌘
you can get a free SIP phone number from here sipgate.com
- zsafwan
Well I got my GoogleVoice invite today. Hooray! Hooray again that I grabbed that VoiceCentral app before it was pulled. Boo, I'm still not sure if I can get this to work in a practical way. I'm with a VOIP provider in Ireland and my package includes limitless free to the states, among numerous other places, but I haven't yet worked out the way, if any, I can get to use the GoogleVoice...
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- JSLeFanu
Ok, I give in. I'm now with ianf ⌘ on this whole gig. I can't tell anyone if GoogleVoice hacking is worth the trouble or not because I've got nowhere near getting registered. I tried the SipGate route. I made several attempts to fill out their online form but at the bottom of the page the CAPTCHA text wouldn't render. Of course I was using a Proxy, several different ones to register so...
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- JSLeFanu
But an invite is required... so...? Proxy is easy, just ssh into your US webhost.
- Paul Grav
Paul, thanks, I have the invite already and I got it using a proxy, that bit was easy. I only have the haziest notion of what ssh means so I'll postpone attempting that until my understanding catches up a bit. I suppose its possible that in practice the process "can" be as easy as Gadgetell portray, its just that in my experience it isn't. Maybe it would be a breeze if I knew more about this "ssh-ing" but I don't and Gadgetell didn't suggest any competence in ssh-ing" was needed.
- JSLeFanu
Well, if you have a webhost in the US, just open a terminal and type: ssh -D 1080 mywebhost.com Then fire up Firefox and change the socks host to 127.0.0.1 and 1080 for the port. Lifehacker has a more complete guide: http://lifehacker.com/237227...
- Paul Grav
from IM
What about the fact that international numbers are not accepted? I'm in Canada, and yeah, I had no problem signing up, proxy-style. However, it won't allow me to route my calls to my area code. I foolishly accepted a number in an outside area code (American) close to my locale, and now I'm stuck giving it a routing number that it won't accept. I think I should have waited and done it...
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- timedalkat
Paul, thanks for the tip, I really appreciate the info. I actually don't, yet, know how to do any of that. I'm posting from the phone at the moment but I'll be sure to check out the lifehacker link you provided when I'm back at the Mac. I might leave it a day or two to give myself a break because I got a bit pissed off with the whole process today and perhaps need a bit of a breather....
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- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
timedalcat, you raise a good point and one that's already crossed my mind. Sorry to say I can't, yet, help you on this one. I'm not even close to being that far through the process yet myself and consider such concerns an extravagant luxury at this stage . My own local Irish number is with an Irish Sip service but I haven't even worked out how to configure GV (assuming I even make it...
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- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
The article is crap, it basically tells you to setup a proxy but that alone isn't sufficient to setup a Google Voice account. During the setup you select a Google Voice number but you need to forward calls to your own phone, which will inevitably have an international number and only US numbers are supported.
- Paul Grav
I would think the simple way to get around any US IP address requirements would be to have someone in the US setup a TOR hidden service that points to the GV registration. It wouldn't have the same kinds of limitations as typical proxies. (I'm not the Robert Nelson of the article btw)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'd be interested to know whether anyone has tried this particular method. I'm poised to give it a go, the main thing holding me back is that I haven't got my head around the possible routing costs. I know I need a US number, I suppose I could link one to my Skype account. That cost is easy to calculate. I also have an Irish geographical VOIP SIP number already and one Mobile (or cell)...
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- JSLeFanu
BTW, for anyone interested I eventually managed to set this up. Whether it's worth it or not is a different matter entirely.
- JSLeFanu
I remember when I first logged in to FriendFeed (I joined at the launch of the beta version, so my comments will relate to that). My first thought was "What the heck is this and what can I do with it?" I was already an active Facebook and Twitter user (as well as a blogger). Why did I need yet another social web service? In this post I and other FF for Beginners Guides will try to answer those questions.
- Mark Traphagen
DEFINITION: There are as many definitions of FF as there are users. In part that's because FF is so flexible and powerful, people use it for many different things. The "official" self-description of FF is "FriendFeed helps you discover and discuss interesting stuff that your friends and family find on the web." I would add another verb: "share." So in a nutshell, FF helps you SHARE-DISCOVER-DISCUSS. The unique power of FF is the way it allows you to blend and cross all three of those actions.
- Mark Traphagen
1. SHARE: FriendFeed allows you to post things from the Internet (or your own thoughts & ideas) that you want to share with others. You can do this manually by simply typing a post into the blank at the top of your Home page. OR automate what you share here by giving FriendFeed access to any of the other social web or bookmarking services you use (HOW TO: http://beta.friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Mark Traphagen
2. DISCOVER: Browse your Home page feed and any Subscriptions or Filters you have for a never-ending cascade of stuff others on FriendFeed have found fun/interesting/helpful. The more subscriptions you have, the faster that waterfall flows (feed pages in beta FF now update in real time). You can make anything you see show up in your own public feed by either adding a comment to it (see below) or clicking "like" under the topic.
- Mark Traphagen
3. DISCUSS: Here's where FF "one ups" other social web services: Virtually anything you see on FF can have a discussion attached to it. This begins when any user adds a comment to the post. You can join any discussion by clicking "comment" under the post description. TIP: To keep track of discussions in which you've participated, click the new "My Discussions" link in your Filters box. Discussed topics automatically rise to the top as new comments are added.
- Mark Traphagen
That's the basics, but there is SO much more power to FriendFeed! Browse or search the topics in this group for more ideas. Perhaps my fellow guides will add their own "What is FriendFeed?" definitions below.
- Mark Traphagen
I like this post, but would like it even better were it more concise, less chatty, more descriptive as to the differences between FF and some other, more widely talked-about social sites. Especially for those among us who thus far have abstained from joining by-and-large sophomoric "communities". [Typo? what typo].
- ianf ⌘
Thanks for the feedback, lanf. Typo corrected. This definition was "chatty" by design. My intention was to draw in those who, like myself at one time, feel overwhelmed by FriendFeed's seeming complexity. I wanted to create interest without being exhaustive, so I limited myself to the three things that are standout (to me) about FriendFeed. Sure, other social web locations allow you to "share, discover, & discuss," but the power of FF is the unique way it brings the three together.
- Mark Traphagen
Might be a good idea, though, to create a post here that describes specific differences between FF and other services. In the meantime, if you're interested in that subject, FF fanatic Robert Scoble has hosted many active discussions here on how FF differs from Twitter and Facebook in particular. If you browse this filter: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... you'll find some of them.
- Mark Traphagen
I'll study it later, but for now made it into my own filter (as apparently there is no other way to share ready-mades among ourselves).
- ianf ⌘
Thanks for the tutorial. I appreciated it.
- timethief
Nice definition. I will add my voice for >4. BLOG, aggregate< .Please boost the blogging capabilities. That means, allow posting more text, allow some text formatting. Otherwise, this mixture you lay out here, is the success recipe for any social site out there - BOOKMARK, aggregate - IMPORT, aggregate - DISCUSS. I might add support for email sending via "em@emailaddress" in the post, and aggregation of discuss, where comments would also go to FB, Intense Debate, Disqus, or any other platform.
- pb:
"It’s taking something everyone knows on the web (your email address) and making it immensely more valuable as a way to identify yourself and information about you. Exactly what kind of information? Here are some of the ideas from the WebFinger Google Code page: * public profile data * pointer to identity provider (e.g. OpenID server) * a public key * other services used by that email address (e.g. Flickr, Picasa, Smugmug, Twitter, Facebook, and usernames for each) * a URL to an avatar * profile data (nickname, full name, etc) * whether the email address is also a JID, or explicitly declare that it’s NOT an email, and ONLY a JID, or any combination to disambiguate all the addresses that look like something@somewhere.com * or even a public declaration that the email address doesn’t have public metadata, but has a pointer to an endpoint that, provided authentication, will tell you some protected metadata, depending on who you authenticate as."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I don't want my contact information to be my identifier. I shouldn't have to give a website my email address, just like I shouldn't have to give a store my phone number.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel, I think it just takes the form of an email address, but does not in fact have to be one (or could be a "throw away" account).
- Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if we could get our act together (as an industry) and make this stuff happen. I'd also like to see ENUM deployed to the point that my phone number can be linked to my identity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Joe Beda
This is a bad idea in so many ways I can't even begin to list them.
- April Russo
If a site wants my email address, it's probably in order to spam me. It's usually a bad sign. If legit sites ask for my email more, it will make it harder to identify the spammers.
- Tim Tyler
Do gmail users seriously still have problems with spam? I don't.
- Robin Barooah
Personally this sounds great - as long as it really doesn't force you to use your actual gmail address.
- Robin Barooah
Does this mean I can have a .plan again?
- Benjamin Lee
Sounds like the .plan which is (again) accessed via an id in email format and returns different information/metadata about a person depending on who's accessing it. Email id is used to do a DNS lookup in order to discover URL for the XRD file (accessed with a HTTP GET) containing the metadata about the person being, er, WebFinger-ed.
- Nenad Nikolic
it is like user authenticating, having two three ids won't hurt ;) well i don't want to be identified, they are going same as gravatar
- testbeta
It's so curious to me that people have concerns that WebFinger would lead to more spam, and yet don't like the "format" of URLs for IDs. Personally, as far as OpenID is concerned, I don't care what the identifier looks like as long as people can remember it — typically email seems easier to recall than URLs (for most people in today's world).
- Chris Messina
Some users who have an email account with Google, myself included, have oodles of incoming mail both standard and secure so it fits the bill to increase security for both vendors and marketers.
- frank burns
I have no problem with the idea, but it seems to me that it won't help the current state of affairs much. The kind of information I'd be interested in sharing via Webfinger (my OpenID, a URL to a FOAF file, etc.) will have no better adoption, so the Webfinger configuration doesn't buy me much. I'll hold out hopes that after a couple tight integrations between Webfinger and OpenID providers (say if Google, Microsoft and/or Yahoo provided and consumed both) things will improve ... here's to hoping :(
- J. McConnell
Years ago I experimented with FOAF. I didn't fully understand nor appreciate what I was doing. To serve as a warning, if you take this example, ensure that it is blocked. #Example: I sent a file to Adobe which in turn, was sent to another email account I had at the time. I verified it's sender (ME) and sent it back in the direction of travel. A signed FOAF (API KEY) was then returned...
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- frank burns
It's great having service icons removed from the posts, that way we focus more on the content rather than the source of the information. That way users won't ignore certain services subconsciously because they've noticed a service icon, rather users ignore a post because it's just not interesting.
I hadn't anticipated it, but it seems so evident now.
- Micah
Some how I think people's hidden filters should be reset just because it's a new way to see FriendFeed. Before people probably just hid all these services because one person kept flooding it.
- Andrew Trinh
I never liked how FF posts get more activity than posts from other services. I always saw FF as meta to all the services you can import so why should it matter if an item was shared on Google Reader or posted directly to FF. The other trend I don't like to see is people ripping off Reddit or Digg by copying and pasting the headline and linking directly to the article, giving no credit to the original.
- Graham English
For me it helps sort whether content is likely to be original or shared. Now I still look for that first, and it just wastes my time, having to find it amongst the rest of the text.
- Pixie
What difference does it make if the content is original or shared? If it is interesting and brings about a discussion or enlightens another user then it has served its purpose.
- Andrew Trinh
Of course original content (and the conversations around it) matters... it's FriendFeed, not DataFeed. Stuff like Digg bugs me because it's several clicks to get to the meat, just to see if it's interesting enough to talk about. Also, I may not care about person X's tweets, but I may care about their last.fm (for example). Service identification and discrimination is valid for many and varied reasons.
- Tinfoil 2.0
It depends on what your purpose is, Andrew. Mine is to usually get to know individuals better.
- Pixie
I never said you can't ignore a particular service, that's what the hide is for. But let the users see the information first without any bias and then let them decide.
- Andrew Trinh
Alix, if your purpose is to get to know the individual better then you deserve every right to hide feeds of a user because of which services they use more. But don't let the same bias affect posts by other users, hide it for once and not for all. If after you've considered it that you may not like tweets overall hide it, you don't need to see a service icon to see that.
- Andrew Trinh
Isn't the service part of the information?
- Andy Bakun
Andrew, it's attention prioritization. Especially in a faster-moving realtime page, with user avatars and service icons (like the old realtime feed) I can instantly hone in on where to focus my attention, before I even start reading any titles, comments, or other text.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Actually, there is a great risk of people being unfairly labeled as moronic without the icons, if their posts make little sense, as is the case with a lot of stuff from twitter. I can excuse moronic posts from twitter if I immediately know that's where they are from. Without the icons, I can't really do that. That means everyone I follow has to be a twitter poet, or I might mistaken them for idiots.
- April Russo
But the service has never disappeared, under each post it still states where each post originates from it's just not the main focus any more. The question is, if you have to filter out so much of your feed that you need icons to see which ones to read why do you have it shown in the first place?
- Andrew Trinh
I don't ignore or hide based on service. The icon just often tells me in an instant if this is something the person created or something they think is worth sharing. I never felt the icon was the focus, just an organizational tool.
- Pixie
Andrew, I think you might be misunderstanding something, The service icons have informational content themselves, allowing certain types of information to be given greater or lesser or just different weight from the rest. So instead of "allowing people to focus on the content itself" it forces you to focus on all the content equally, which is clearly inappropriate. Twitter posts are different than delicious items which are different than blog posts which are different than things shared directly.
- Mr. Gunn
Exactly. I agree with Mr Gunn. Now we have less information than we had before.
- Chris Loft
The service icons represent in part the information that is being presented and how/what services that information was found. Without those it makes it more difficult to tie the information together. Plus those little icons are cute. :)
- sofarsoShawn
Also the service icons are a way of filtering the information, for example: by clicking on a user's stumbledupon icon all their sites fall into a nice column which is FAR simpler then the complex filtering system in the beta
- sofarsoShawn
I have noticed that Friend Feed users are more likely to respond to a post based on the person doing the posting not what service it is rolling out of.
- Tony C (Unrated)
I think there is an important point here that I've made on other items. I think there are two qualitatively different modes of using friendfeed. One is person-centric, similar to friendfeed or Twitter. People interested in what a specific person has to say. The other is content centric, the person is secondary to the content they are bringing in or promoting. My guess is that the content-centric viewers do a lot of filtering based on the source of the information, as well as the people it is coming through
- Cameron Neylon
Also that the research community (e.g. Life Scientists rooms and others) are more content centric than the general user community. I would think the UI can support both modes of use with a few display options (do don't display service icons, using filtering over service type/number of comments/liks etc.)
- Cameron Neylon
That's a good point, Cameron, and considering that the Life Scientists room has over 700 members, one would think their collective opinion would carry some weight.
- Mr. Gunn
Just loaded the stylish scripts that remove the personal icons and put back the service icons (HT to Neil Saunders) so I'm happy now.
- Cameron Neylon
That may be true, but I still miss the icons :'(
- stanjourdan
I appreciate the help, but I'm on chrome !
- stanjourdan
I'll cast a vote in favour of showing service icons whereever they plausibly make sense.
- Karl Knechtel
I ignore certain icons too especially when it's the source of most of the content that I find to be boring. Makes sense to me.
- Corvida
I always was a fan of the service icons. I still run the old school realtime FF in the Firefox sidebar, so I get my service icon fix that way ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
My (and chrisofspades) service icons script still works (in Firefox) too. :)
- Micah
An interesting idea from Eran Sandler here: http://twitter.com/erans..., could FriendFeed please display, link, or ideal have an expand option to show the 'in-reply-to' text for @replies tweets?
Seriously needed! Even just a link would be better than nothing.
- Boris Gordon
In general it would be great if FriendFeed would be a full-featured Twitter client. It would remove the feeling of having to choose to be on FriendFeed or on Twitter. Most cool thing would be if FriendFeed could actually make conversation threading for tweets. If a tweet has a in_reply_to id, then it should be shown on FriendFeed as a comment on the original tweet (from perhaps a "virtual" FriendFeed user, if the Twitter user is not on FF), together with all other replies to that tweet.
- Meryn Stol
In this scenario, only tweets which do not have in_reply_to id specified would be shown in the user's feeds. The rest would be attached as comments to other people's tweets, and would be shown to subscribers to that user through the regular FF "FoaF" feature.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, I don't think it should be a comment but a link or something to expand under the tweet. A comment would make it very confusing.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah, which is why the expanded Twitter entry should be included last inside the FF post/comment proper, and clearly delimited as such; e.g. [In response to CNETNews: " Second Life cracks whip on adult content http://tinyurl.com/d39fk7 " http://twitter.com/CNETNew... ] or similar format.
- ianf ⌘
Yep, like I say either a link to the 'in-reply-to post' or the ability to expand it under the entry. it definitely shouldn't be a comment or visible initially.
- Kol Tregaskes
Any way you could get this to work for people that aren't logged in or that don't have a friendfeed account? Currently, the anchor links only show when a user is logged in. I have been trying to help someone get this to work for the last few hours and he has an issue with his ISP that prevents him from being able to log into friendfeed that we are still trying to find a way around. In the mean time, he is very interested in this particular script working more than any other, whether he is logged in or not.
- April Russo
What is the difference between liking and starring? Are likes more public?
- Benjamin Golub
@Benjamin Starring is either public or private, based on your settings. Sharing shares with your shared list. Liking is visible to everyone, so if you like a Gizmodo post and I also subscribe to Giz, I can see that even though our Google Reader accounts aren't connected. From the blog post: ""likes" are public, so anyone reading an item you've "liked" in Reader can see that you're a fan."
- Roshan Vyas
That's super-cool. Also like Mihai's tip to see the feed of my likes.
- Matt Cutts
Hmm… liking a thread on liking is far too close to likcest by my reckoning.
- ianf ⌘
@Mihai, @Jenna -- definitely need to make the Likes page and feed more discoverable. I spent a while looking for it myself last night.
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, we haven't figured out if users are comfortable with all of their likes being aggregated like that, so for now only the owner can see their likes feed.
- Mihai Parparita
Oh, makes sense. Though I'd make the case that since Likes are visible to everyone, the feed for them should be as well. I wanted to export them to FF, for example.
- DeWitt Clinton
So there are stars, shares, and likes. Likes are differentiated from the other two by being public. They're a brand new interaction so you aren't changing things out from under anyone. Please don't require auth for the feed of the most public thing, when the sharing feed (less public) doesn't require auth.
- Daniel Dulitz
Helpful post. I'd take issue with the claim all 3 are user-defined. Likes _are_ public; they go wherever the liked item does. As you say, redefining semantics is hard. So if you want a public interaction, and it appears from how you've defined likes as public that you do, now's your window of opportunity. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
Cool feature. I think of tags in GReader as labels, though, and I'm going to miss hitting "l" to tag an item like I could before this feature was added.
- Nathan Selander
@Nathan Selander you can use 't' now. cool feature indeed. I'm anxious to see how it evolves "in the wild".
- George Moga
@George Moga You could use 't' before. I'd just used 'l' because that's also the shortcut key in Gmail for labeling. My problem now is that I end up liking everything I'd intended to label/tag because 'l' is still in my muscle memory.
- Nathan Selander
@tanath enter the konami code in Reader (up, up, down, down, left, right, left right, b, a then hit enter. Once you see Ninjas in your sidebar, try liking something. It's just for fun.
- Jenna Bilotta
I value screen real estate quite a lot in web applications and the newly introduced likes feature of Google Reader has taken valuable real-estate away. While you can hide the number of likes, I did want to see the number. So I moved it to the most logical place. Right next to the “Like link” using greasemonkey http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Manu
Oh, I see - the heart shows up _after_ you like something in ninja mode. Thanks, Jenna. :)
- Tanath
Has something changed for the like feed in the mean time, can it be accessed publicly now? I would like to import it in a Twitter account, but I don't want to give out my Google credentials to a third-party...
- George Moga
LouCypher, I filled in each type of field (except audio) and clicked Run Pipe, but nothing appears to have happened.
- Micah
Micah, it worked for me. I posted this entry using this pipe itself.
- Zulkarnain K.
Lou, you declare explicitly »This Pipe may require all fields to have values before it will run successfully. Please provide values into any empty field above and press "Run Pipe."« but then your [=this] posting has nowhere near the number of apparently required elements. If the values/args can be [nil] or »""«, or maybe »" "«, please indicate that. Above all, I'd like to read a usage scenario in which this could be of, hmmm…, use [over and above mere proof of concept].
- ianf ⌘
Lou, I just re-tried in Chrome and it worked! (I used the remotekey each time). My first attempts wre in Firefox - my guess is there's was a conflict with Firebug (or maybe NoScript, but I allowed all domains *shrug*).
- Micah
I see. I don't have Firebug on my Firefox, that's why.
- Zulkarnain K.
Firebug in the latest version of Firefox has been temperamental. Frequent browser restarts while dubugging JS helps.
- Micah
Anyway, nice job on the pipe, LouCypher. Just released, and there's already exciting things popping up using the new API v2 :)
- Micah
I may be misreading things in a wider [than Pipes] context, but I thought the new FF API v2, as per recent Firehose announcement (which presumably relies on it) no longer required RemoteKey use? "[FF Firehose] is controlled by simple OAuth. This also means users of FriendFeed-based applications will no longer need to get their special key to manually enter as was previously required" <http://staynalive.com/article...> - right, this isn't an FF-app…
- ianf ⌘
Unfortunately, that's the problem with Yahoo Pipes, you can't use OAuth with it.
- Zulkarnain K.
This looks cool, but with FriendFeed's 3 mp3 files a day limit - you could only use it once a day to upload audio files.
- Chris Loft
I really love following Joe Hewitt (http://friendfeed.com/joehewi...) discuss developing the Facebook iPhone app so openly on Facebook, Twitter, and FriendFeed (and open sourcing most of it at the same time). Sets a really high standard for transparency in product development. I hope more companies follow his example.
Bret, the gang at FriendFeed do a good job as well. After consistently banging my head against Google's "Wall of Silence" the content here is incredibly refreshing. Thanks!!
- Chris Myles
This is what I exactly want to do. But, usually the next release is a top secret for many of the companies and it's very stressful to write even the concepts you are working on.
- Burcu Dogan
I think most people would prefer to work this way, but it is worth noting how difficult that can be at a large, well-known company: individuals, the press and Wall St are trying to read something into every little thing you say or do, there are SEC rules to worry about, and so forth. I feel lucky that I work mostly on open source stuff at Google, so this doesn't affect me most of the time.
- Joel Webber
Joel, I do understand the bigger issues at Google, I'm referring more to the product and support side. I've been getting some VERY bad vibes from other users and developers in the forums for Blogger, GFC, Picasa, Maps etc and their APIs. I've actually had people tell me to stop asking questions about GFC because no one from Google responds. Here I get the exact opposite feeling, from...
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- Chris Myles
chrismyles: some of the issues are cultural and others are technical. google support discussions used to be mailing lists, and wading through so many messages is time consuming. since moving to their forum system, the level of responses have improved somewhat and it seems the staff is better able to pick out topics to reply. the friendfeed platform is even better, and allows topics the community thinks are important to receive a higher priority.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Mike, I guess we'll have to see.. What I love about FF is it makes it easier for ME to keep track of all my discussions in a single spot. Google's new support discussions require me to visit each group independently; there is no central location where I can monitor all my questions. It might be easier for Google but it's harder for me.. If only they all used friendfeed!!
- Chris Myles
So Bret, what do you think of the resulting app? Now you've got even more reasons to be interested!!
- Chris Myles
Chris: indeed those are the sort of technical or design capabilities that can restrict or enhance the effectiveness for users of a platform. both google and friendfeed have dedicated and skilled staff, yet here they are more able to communicate efficiently with relatively greater numbers of people.
- Mike Chelen
That is *exactly* why FF will become more mainstream than twitter.. try explaining how to tweet to your parents (who are finally comfortable with email)!
- Chris Myles
"This is where real reading comes in -- because it demands that space, because by drawing us back from the present, it restores time to us in a fundamental way. There is the present-tense experience of reading, but also the chronology of the narrative, as well as of the characters and author, all of whom bear their own relationships to time. There is the fixity of the text, which doesn't change whether written yesterday or a thousand years ago. St. Augustine composed his "Confessions" in AD 397, but when he details his spiritual upheaval, his attempts to find meaning in the face of transient existence, the immediacy of his longing obliterates the temporal divide. "I cannot seem to feel alive unless I am alert," Charles Bowden writes in his recent book, "Some of the Dead Are Still Breathing" (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt: 244 pp., $24), "and I cannot feel alert unless I push past the point where I have control." That is what reading has to offer: a way to eclipse the boundaries, which is a form of giving up control."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
I don't know, I've demolished 2 books this week. Guess I have to read the whole article (sigh). I'm on my 3rd book this week. Go libraries!
- anna sauce
"What I'm struggling with is the encroachment of the buzz, the sense that there is something out there that merits my attention, when in fact it's mostly just a series of disconnected riffs and fragments that add up to the anxiety of the age"
- anna sauce
I totally knew he was going to go there, and he did. I'd say- not me. I'm pretty hooked into all of the social media and "buzz of our age" and stil find time to demolish books. How? I don't know. They're just both entertaining activities, but totally different.
- anna sauce
I hear ya. Still, coming from a family of readers, it's hard sometimes to maintain my habit (five new books a week).
- Steven Perez
anna, myself as well. I'm addicted to both the Internet and books.
- joey
I mean, I turn off email/ff/twitter stuff when I program, but for books, I can even leave hte computer on and it doesn't distract me. I think this writer just isn't reading stuff that really entertains him. And, from his rather heavy and ponderous quotes, I know why.
- anna sauce
I think that's part of the problem. People don't know how to unplug anymore.
- Steven Perez
from IM
To be honest I don't read like I used too. I used to go through 40-50 new books a year not including what I reread. Now I'm lucky to read 15-20 books in a year with rereads. I've kept a book journal for close to the last 15 years. and it's just drop off in recent years. :(
- Bluesun 2600
I love to un-plug esp. with a good book. It helps recharge the ole noggin.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Agree with anna--simply not an either/or sort of deal for me at all. I read endlessly, online and off.
- Kathy Fitch
this article reeks of a deadline paired with writer's block. i call bullshit on the premise.
- Joe Silence
I go through waves of not watching TV and reading, and watching TV and not reading, and going to movies and reading, and not watching TV, etc. But the internet? not really something I curl up with (until FF....). I bet you're right Dead- he was on deadline.
- anna sauce
Steve- I love going to the library and getting new books. It's like a total treat. When I found out my latest apt. was 2 blocks from a library I was so excited.
- anna sauce
this tactile experience of turning pages is why I'm not sure e-reader ever be my thing
- WarLord
I read. A lot. Including a lot of books. And when I'm not reading, I'm usually writing.
- Dennis Jernberg
Is there a *single* FF API feed through which we can fetch *all* contributions across FriendFeed (posts, likes, comments, DMs... everything) for a specific user? Currently, there are separate feeds for posts, comments and likes (the latter two are also combined through the discussions feed filter).
But this will only fetch the last 630 entries or so? Also, do you mean that this is the FF API that Ivan asked about… retrieving threads from scraped search results??????
- ianf ⌘
ianf: there is a search API too, sorry for being confusing, linking to the HTML version just makes it easier to see :) http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... is the API feed. You can go back 20000 entries there.
- Benjamin Golub
That's a cool workaround, thanks Ben! Btw. this search includes entries from feeds that I have imported into groups (with the description imported as the first comment), not into my personal feed. Any ideas on how to exclude those?
- Ivan Zuzak
It's a known limitation with search. You can exclude the group by adding -group:username to the query.
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks, Ben, for the clarification. The example given by you imports at most 30 instances of each: http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... Am I correct in assuming that in this fashion one can extract at most the last 630 own entries (of any kind) in the ff-datebase? [Amend moved to its own comment].
- ianf ⌘
I think the way to get to the full 20000 is to use "start" and "num" query parameters, as with fetching normal feeds.
- Ivan Zuzak
ianf: Correct, you can use the "start" parameter to go back 20000 entries. Add &start=1000 for example to that URL. You can change the number you get at once with the "num" parameter (for example: add &num=100 to get 100 at a time).
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
The near-instantaneous, but not quite nature of the FF makes that replies to comments arrive while the comment is being edited or amended. So here's what I earlier wrote upon realizing my error in API thinking: AMEND: I get it now, this is how you want us to do it, the hard way: the sevenhundredth entry of yours:...
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- ianf ⌘
This might sound apocalyptic, but it is how the world looks when we realise that Darwin's principle of evolution by natural selection need not apply just to biology. Given some kind of copying machinery that makes lots of slightly different copies of the same information, and given that only a few of those copies survive to be copied again, an evolutionary process must occur and design will appear out of destruction. You might call it "design by death" since clever designs thrive because of the many failures that don't.
- zeroinfluencer
from Bookmarklet
The autor writes: "[my] analysis based on Universal Darwinism suggests that instead we [=we, the Humans] should be looking for R3 planets […]" - so what practical considerations of that affect the rest of us?
- ianf ⌘
[6 Videos] Contortionist Lilia Stepanova fires perfect bulleyes shooting from a handstand at halftime during the Final Archery World Cup 2007 (640x514 at FF) [Madinat Jumeirah outside Dubai, UAE, tinypic - 11/24/07] - http://i3.tinypic.com/85x9ekl...
One of the most amazing gymnastics feats I've seen in 19 years! My acrobatic friends are always trying to design original tricks to "break into the biz". Thanks Mac Sharp for sharing http://ff.im/5FXFm and Malina http://friendfeed.com/malinaff for identifying Lilia Stepanova (age 22, born 1987 Chişinău, Moldova, living in Las Vegas). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Many other pics & videos at MySpace http://myspace.com/lilias Parents are contortionists, and mom trained her at age 5. Performs NBA halftime shows. Archery with her feet while on hand-balancing canes is part of a piece she performed Season 1 on America's Got Talent. Previously shared at http://ff.im/6h3Me
- Mitchell Tsai
[3 Videos] On a black background, commercial from Denmark [BeautySport, YouTube - 2/16/08, 36 sec, 99,168 views] http://youtube.com/watch... Different hairstyle & costume in a Greek talent competition [JvP4ant, YouTube - 4/4/07, 2 min 39, 233,890 views] http://youtube.com/watch... Photo montage (no acrobatics) with JoJo - lots of pics of a younger Lilia [xxtkxxangelxx, YouTube - 5/4/08, 4 min 9, 44,361 views] http://youtube.com/watch...
- Mitchell Tsai
Many other pics & videos at Lilia Stepanova's MySpace page http://myspace.com/lilias I've had a lot of fun chasing down working copies of her videos and seeing her pictures.
- Mitchell Tsai
Wesley - Isn't she great? This is in the Top 50 of gymnastics stunts I've seen. Hope she creates similarly innovative stuff in the next few years for some really cool Cirque du Soleil-type routines. Rest of her routine is same-old same-old - overly dancey hand-movements (standard and too boring), and not as flexible as many contortionists; e.g. the Russian rhythmic gymnasts (little...
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- Mitchell Tsai
There's an annual gymnastics trick competition in China. Never seen videos, but I've seen lists of the tricks that people do & it's impressive. It'd be awesome to watch. World acrobatics finals are pretty cool - Seen a few videos - 10 tricks in a row, and the top names do twisting triples (not sure if any do quads). Haven't looked on YouTube yet for either.
- Mitchell Tsai
"In tracking the mileage on this trip to perdition, many of us relied on the work of historian Robert Paxton, who is probably the world's pre-eminent scholar on the subject of how countries turn fascist. In a 1998 paper published in The Journal of Modern History, Paxton argued that the best way to recognize emerging fascist movements isn't by their rhetoric, their politics, or their aesthetics. Rather, he said, mature democracies turn fascist by a recognizable process, a set of five stages that may be the most important family resemblance that links all the whole motley collection of 20th Century fascisms together. According to our reading of Paxton's stages, we weren't there yet. There were certain signs -- one in particular -- we were keeping an eye out for, and we just weren't seeing it. And now we are. In fact, if you know what you're looking for, it's suddenly everywhere. It's odd that I haven't been asked for quite a while; but if you asked me today, I'd tell you that if we're...
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- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
"Now, the guessing game is over. We know beyond doubt that the Teabag movement was created out of whole cloth by astroturf groups like Dick Armey's FreedomWorks and Tim Phillips' Americans for Prosperity, with massive media help from FOX News. We see the Birther fracas -- the kind of urban myth-making that should have never made it out of the pages of the National Enquirer -- being...
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- Steven Perez
"This is the sign we were waiting for -- the one that tells us that yes, kids: we are there now. America's conservative elites have openly thrown in with the country's legions of discontented far right thugs. They have explicitly deputized them and empowered them to act as their enforcement arm on America's streets, sanctioning the physical harassment and intimidation of workers,...
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- Steven Perez
"It's so easy right now to look at the melee on the right and discount it as pure political theater of the most absurdly ridiculous kind. It's a freaking puppet show. These people can't be serious. Sure, they're angry -- but they're also a minority, out of power and reduced to throwing tantrums. Grown-ups need to worry about them about as much as you'd worry about a furious five-year-old threatening to hold her breath until she turned blue."
- Andrew C (✓)
"Unfortunately, all the noise and bluster actually obscures the danger. These people are as serious as a lynch mob, and have already taken the first steps toward becoming one. And they're going to walk taller and louder and prouder now that their bumbling efforts at civil disobedience are being committed with the full sanction and support of the country's most powerful people, who are cynically using them in a last-ditch effort to save their own places of profit and prestige."
- Andrew C (✓)
Just to clarify, those were Sara Robinson's comments from the post.
- Andrew C (✓)
from Android
Indeed, quite lucid and valid definition of what Fascism stands for ["Robert Paxton's essential definition of the term"]: »Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline.« My seminal source on the subject, Walter Laqueur's "Fascism,...
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- ianf ⌘
[Paxton:] "a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline" ... some of the more enthusiastic proto/pseudo fascists I've met online have been just a little too impressed with the message of "Idiocracy". Just sayin'.
- Andrew C (✓)
wh....wha.....wh....whuh.....whale....WHALE!!!
- Morgan
Nah, the guy with the bumper sticker, "Nuke the Whales"... that was someone else...really!
- Ken Morley
What if the whale was nearsighted, and in need of a snack. Would the size of an individual, if odd-tasting, "technokrill" at all register in Mr/Mrs. Whale's brain? (I bet someone here wet his/her pants. Oh, wait.)
- ianf ⌘
You don't use a razor, you could hurt yourself in the process. You use industrial-grade pneumatic hammers while distracting the whale with in-retinae projection of "Finding Nemo" (a Hollywood movie no whale can resist).
- ianf ⌘
psikolojideki yanaşma ve kaçınma sendromunu bu foto için kullanabilirm sanırım.
- mayamisa
@Kittyburgers, this is indeed the largest instance of this picture around the known web (Dick Cheney can tell you all about the unknown one): http://tineye.com/search... Why don't you write to the author of it @flickr and inquire whether s/he might have bigger one still?
- ianf ⌘
neyseki balinalar insan yemiyor, en azından yutak borusu yumruk genişliğinde =)
- siniradam
PUBLIC SERVICE: Here's what the Turks are saying when they think we're not looking: "My favorite zoological vote. - Aduket effect The killer is not from no problem: p - İgal Pirlanti from iPhone I think he was swinging from fear, it is not carbon dioxide bubbles. - Semih table They must have fed the whale with microorganisms:) - Yigit Demirel Someone hit the "Sorry I have not seen" so...
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- ianf ⌘
This picture appeared on Flickr 10 months ago, in October of 2008. I don't suppose we'll ever get the confirmation what "little modification" in its title referred to: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- ianf ⌘
The photo's from National Geographic which is where I thought I had seen it before, However I couldn't find it on their site. But, I did find it here; North Atlantic right whale - welovescience.com http://bit.ly/JZOhd
- Michael Fidler
Now I see it - the Flickr photo HAS BEEN doctored ("little of my modification, [trailing comma]") apparently by the poster Christiano~Mattzi by removing the bottom attribution/copyright part so as to appear "copyrightless." Stands to reason: it is simply too good to have been the product of a fluke photo session. Anyone with access to October 2008 Nat. Geo. please check how many hours beneath the waves /sessions/ photos it took to arrive at this single "money shot."
- ianf ⌘
@ianf ⌘ At least we know what type of whale it is now:) I would love to see the other ones.
- Michael Fidler
Michael, but we do not. It sez "right whale." Does it mean there are "left whales" and/or, perhaps, "wrong whales" as well? We can't let this drown in a cloud of ambiguous, yet apparently exhaled bubbles.
- ianf ⌘
ianf, sailors named them "Right Whales" because they were the right whale to hunt.
- Bruce Lewis
Aha, so there were/are Wrong Whales as well. I SUSPECTED it on intellectual grounds alone!!!!!
- ianf ⌘
"Twitter really needs to come up with some other way to tell me it's down."
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Wrong tense, Eivind. The past, or maybe the once future of tech. Too bad it didn't survive the Dark Ages, or it –and derivates– might have speeded up the advance of sciences by several hundred years. Imagine Antikythera in the hands of Michelangelo, Leonardo DaVinci, not to mention Copernicus and Isaac Newton.
- ianf ⌘
Wrong tense, ianf. The present past of tech, subject to future change. ;-) I think the worst tragedy in recorded human history was the burning of the Library at Alexandria. Who knows all that was lost? And ianf - who knows what would have happened to the history of Religion if such a device had been available at the time? Would we humans have gone through such utter scientific...
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- ThatJimGuy
Seriously, and before my cup of coffee, before I forget: the Bible was not written until after Jesus died (about what? 90-150 years after He died?) All major modern religions; would they have suppressed the notions that got Copernicus, Galileo and so many others into so much trouble (again, put mildly) with the Church?
- ThatJimGuy
The TRUTH is.....my Dear Sweet Earth Angels......we have NO IDEA what information was or was not "lost" - what information HAS BEen passed down through out the generations - kept from the masses and yet, KEPT......There is a PLETHORA of information that is KNOWn to a minute number of individuals USED for CENTURIES to implement conditioned brainwashing upon the masses for the benefit of...
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- Roni Lipstein
totally atlantean tech, the video at the end is great. I still cant figure out eclipses without using google.
- Robert Higgins
"Researchers have discovered a way to take complete control over an iPhone merely by sending special SMS messages and demonstrated it on my iPhone at the Black Hat security conference on Wednesday. Although an attacker could exploit the hole to make calls, steal data, send text messages, and do basically anything that I can do with my iPhone, the researchers were kind and merely rendered it temporarily inoperable."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
We nixed Gopher access at the last minute because we found our gopher servers couldn't handle the load.
- Kevin Fox
Ha! I saved a copy of the Trojan Room Coffee Cam page, complete with captured picture (which I then had to view offline, as I could not configure the Lynx to display in parallel ;-))
- ianf ⌘
Speaking of which, I always wondered at the default gray background choice of the first Netscape browser(s). It looked too sophisticated to have been accidental. In hindsight, however, someone there must've misunderstood basic usability, e.g. optimal contrast ratios? [And then a year later someone had that unbright idea of turning homepages black for a day's web protest against some...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf: The gray background was the default in Mosaic, so Netscape was just keeping the status quo. The black background protest was against the Communications Decency Act, which would have made lots of innocent speech illegal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Gabe
Obviously fake. :) The menu bar entries are anti-aliased.
- Andy Bakun
Ray Cromwell, with the pixels being so much bigger back then, I suspect that the continued need for button bars was the impetus behind increasing screen resolutions.
- Andy Bakun
If this was supposed to be March 5, 1995, that was before Sun announced Java, so the coffee pot needing Java joke wouldn't have made sense yet.
- Gabe
Damn, just by me "viewing" the image that mentioned Java, I got a "Java Update Available" window. I'm not kidding, it popped up the second the image loaded... I hate Java. This is a great parody though, good work.
- Joel Strellner
"However, the downside is that all those photos are going to cost you. It’s important to understand the term “royalty-free” (RF) for those websites. RF images are not in the public domain, nor are they free to use without purchasing a license. Luckily, there are plenty of websites for stock photos that won’t require you to dig into your pockets. Here’s 5 of them."
- Oguz Serdar
from Bookmarklet
http://yuvisense.net/autolg... "At this point, even with my family for more techie as film geeks have been announced, but perhaps the most prevalent events of course, Seesmic."
- Louis Gray
http://yuvisense.net/autolg... "And when my wife works, it simply software? Only Microsoft knows the perfect Twitter add-on service is great, not just their current product more, and less productive, waiting for coming up at all."
- Yuvi
@Meryn - A Markov Chain :) Google for Mark V Shaney, same algorithm being used here. Hacked it up in my spare time.
- Yuvi
Hmm it's quite fascinating. It makes you feel there might be much hidden wisdom contained herein. A bit mysterious.
- Meryn Stol
Yes, indeed! There's also autofreya (http://yuvisense.net/autofreya) which is seeded with content from an 18 year old anonymous girl blogger (and friend of mine), and you can see how they compare.
- Yuvi
Now, if only FriendFeed made an archive of your posts available, I could generate quotes automatically from all your FF comments. FriendFeed locks up the data :(
- Yuvi
Yuvi, the API doesn't support querying by username? (Alternative path for this thread: So FriendFeed turns out to be evil after all? ;))
- Meryn Stol
It does, but only upto a certain point. You can't ask it for 'everything'.
- Yuvi
from IM
Hmm sucks. What's the cap? Is it a certain number of items, or a certain time-span, something else?
- Meryn Stol
Wow, that's really little. I thought about analyzing my interests (as displayed through my FF comments) by making a tag cloud out of the words... But that's either gonna be a very limited snap shot or I'd have to mimic a browser to crawl it all. I hope FF will add a full export option for one's own data or something. Delicious had that from the start I think.
- Meryn Stol
Never used delicious, so never know :) But I do realize it's technically expensive to be able to expose all data at all times, especially on something as volatile and fast moving as FriendFeed
- Yuvi
from IM
Yuvi, yes. I think it would work the best if they'd used a separate data store (and accessor functions) for it. Separated from the realtime API. There shouldn't even have to be a promise of including the most recent data. An archive until the start of the current day would be great already.
- Meryn Stol
heck, a monthly archive would do! But thing is, it'll benefit only a tiny portion of FriendFeed's users, but take up a dispropotionate amount of time to implement. Don't think they'll ever do it.
- Yuvi
from IM
And I am sure Paul Buchheit is behind this one: "Set this one a million times before, but there are many new lines of code you have worked at a conference call services, but FriendFeed took a quick and powerful tool for all of my Gmail address." http://yuvisense.net/autolg...
- Louis Gray
Yuvi, I think you're right. It's probably not the best use of the team's time. I think best would be to have a separate company offering it as a service, something like http://backupmytweets.com/ . Still it'd be a nice gesture if FF would allow such a service to crawl a whole user's archive with simple HTML scraping. From then on the archive could be augmented with data coming from the API.
- Meryn Stol
http://yuvisense.net/autolg... is one hellova long sentence! (not that it makes sense, and yes, it's another case of LG not spacing after periods)
- Yuvi
Here's my favorite: "What are my options?If you want to break the system, as the individual level, the leak shows that more than a super-sized meal." Poetry.
- Kathy Fitch
Auto(another-classic-friendfeeder) coming up in a few mins, btw.
- Yuvi
http://yuvisense.net/autolg... "TechCrunch reported today that video ad rates dropped 25% in the open, social, Web, including those from Facebook." - Love the commas!
- Yuvi
"It also gives you unlimited feeds plus OPML import & export.After you input your selected feeds into Myspace."
- Jesse Stay
"It also gives you unlimited feeds plus OPML import & export.After you input your selected feeds into Myspace." MySpace?!? Oh, Louis....!
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
:) how does it feel to know you never have to think of a blogpost again - string enough together and hey presto! -you're on the beach with the twins!
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
"Grandma is now following about 10,000 different blogs, and tracks links between each blog, which factors into posts' ranking algorithm." http://yuvisense.net/autolg... (LG found this first, btw)
- Yuvi
Wish we had Twitter back in the day - no worries - Historical Tweets tells us the tweets that would have been » Neil Armstrong’s Small Step for Twitter - http://historicaltweets.com/2009...