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Ian Mulvany
we are having a serious think about Connotea. What would it need to do to be a killer app for helping scientists?
Liking it cause I think many will have opinions - Deepak Singh
I'm developing a tentative set of user needs right now, I'll post them for review at the end of the week, I hope. - Ian Mulvany
Mining features... take advantage of citation trees. Say, we have paper X, this is cited by a number of papers, which are cited by etc. On each depth, the citing papers form a cloud based on the user tags, describing the literature that it citing paper X. This gives a quick overview of the types of literature citing the original; effectively, giving an overview of the research lines that refer to paper X. Possibly, this can be extended to start with the papers {X1, X2, ..., Xn}. - Egon Willighagen
Yup, prepare for a barrage of blog posts and opinions :) (assuming I can make time) - Cameron Neylon
Egon, the analysis is known as Main Path analysis, I've been reading up on it. It's pretty cool. It could be also useful for filling in a users personal bibliography - Ian Mulvany
Tell me which papers I should read based on the ones in my collection. Facebook has a "people you may know" suggestion thingy. - Michael Barton
Off the top of my head, I would mostly like to see more integration like with Google Docs, Zotero, Open Office, MS Word. For me to be able to show that kind of integration to students would be a killer app. - John Dupuis
i'd like to see search by 2 or more tags together, sometimes tags edit doesn't work - Alexey
John makes an excellent point. The biggest problem with so many of these Web-based apps is that they aren't readily integrated. As a knowledge worker, I should be able to move between Nature's applications, Google's applications, and other third-party tools without having the system stall out on me. No one has (to my knowledge) really managed to deliver this. It's lots of cut-and-paste, or emailing of content, and other work-arounds. Fix that problem and, as John says, that would be a killer app. - Jill O'Neill
Aim to be the Nielsen of science ? ;) Get the users to add a browser plugin that can track readers habits across different scientific publishers. Link that to a profile that has users scientific interest and publications (NN). The users get back recommendations based on bookmarks, reading habits, articles similar to those that he/she published, articles recommended by NN contacts,etc. - Pedro Beltrao
Add ratings to bookmarks and let the users opt in to get a reminder once a week/month to rate articles bookmarked in the previous week/month (something like Netflix does for movies) - Pedro Beltrao
Get a couple of really famous scientists to use connotea and promote a page with their shared feeds (something like what google is doing now for Greader) - Pedro Beltrao
Hi Jill, John, it's a well well known problem, and I think that it's not impossible to get around on an app by app basis. Word should be OK, Google Docs is harder as there is no API yet that I know of (is there? is there?), but there might be a way to get bookmarks to sync with google bookmarks, and that would work. Ah, idea. - Ian Mulvany
Focus on literature bookmarks again, not any bookmark. - Egon Willighagen
Oh, if you keep any bookmark in, make sure to use it to contribute to a researcher impact factor, based on link counts, ala Google Page Rank, but counting not just papers, but software projects, databases, etc too. - Egon Willighagen
integration would be the key, but simple things like tab-completion of tags would be a good start - pn
What Deepak said. Does FF need a "bookmark" as well as a "like"? - Bill Hooker
Would love to see Connotea include a pdf upload like CiteULike's. - Bill Hooker
I was actually thinking about this the other day. Activity feeds - bookmarked, "starred", commented. Ability to link to local and network storage of PDFs (whatever system user chooses - Amazon S3, C: drive, Google Docs, whatever). Tag recommendations, article recommendations, open Recommender API, private groups, social network sharing, how's that for a start? - Richard Akerman
Must use citation tree, have a serious cite and write option compatible with existing word processors. - Aarthy
don't say I didn't warn you :) http://blog.openwetware.org/science... - Cameron Neylon
@CameronNeylon I'm liking prepopulate a lot in other contexts - it's a great way to kickstart IRs. - Richard Akerman
@Richard - I think its crucial to get people to understand what would be possible if they bring more people in. The benefits kick in when you have a whole research group for instance but until people see that this might be a good thing they are not going to expend the effort on bringing the rest of the group in. - Cameron Neylon
Integration with Nature Network. Direct PubMed queries. Private shared reference lists. And what Cameron says in his blog post... - Martin Fenner
Also, Connotea and CiteULike and 2collab and Mendeley need to get together and decide what fields in the RIS they're going to export and import as what data, so you don't end up losing data such as tags and comments when exporting and importing to another service. Citation tree, search/sort by date/author/journal, and easy integration with Word would be on my list - Mr. Gunn
From my perspective, integration into word processors and easy IO would be the necessary requirement. The next would be good search engines that take into account relevance based on your "graph" as it were. That same engine can be used to drive a recommendation engine. If I had all of those, with a good API that could be used to drive mashups, and of course appropriate scalability and availability, then at least one person would be happy :) - Deepak Singh
make it easy to monitor PubMed alerts, TOC alerts, citation alerts, ... http://blog.mckuhn.de/2008... - Michael Kuhn
I'm pretty overwhelmed by the feedback, in a good way of course. Thanks so much for all of the suggestions. I'll now go and take them on board and try to beat them into some coherent shape. - Ian Mulvany
Have a citation tree (this article cites these articles) and pre-load with entire network of Nature citations (that is, articles cited by papers in Nature), highlighting some famous papers. - Richard Akerman
what everyone else said - plus, if you upload pdfs, why not do some nlp analysis and then map similarities? so extract key entitites and relationships and do analysis on those - Christina Pikas
oh - plus - if you get it down where you can integrate with Word or LaTeX or open office or what have you - you should also have an option to "work offline" - Christina Pikas
One thing that I absolutely *love* about Zotero is how it can pick up bibliographic information for books directly from library catalogue screens or when you're looking at a book in Amazon or whatever. When you're looking at a list of books in our catalogue, Zotero will show all the books in a list and let you choose the ones you want for your list of references. So cool. - John Dupuis
Take a close look at Zotero from a feature perspective. It's a great app. It's limited to FireFox but represents a hybrid desktop/web app that resembles what we'll be seeing. The community built around Connotea (i.e., the people willing to park and comment on citations, build good tags, etc.) may be the real value. Will that community persist once some people can do things others cannot do as Pro users? - Bill Flanagan
Hi Bill, that's a good point. If you look at flickr (my favorite freemium example), they have maintained their community with a two tier product. I'm interested in knowing what features we could add to Connotea that we could charge for that would retain the community. I have some ideas, but want to hear yours! - Ian Mulvany
Well, I am glad about the support in favor of word processor integration (Ian surely knows why). I would say that anything that can help scientists write papers will make Connotea more interesting over its competitors. Word processors integration would do. Other possible functions: 1) My articles feature with a warning if anyone bookmarks one of my works, with a mapping users/urls it may not be that hard to do. 2) See next post. - Mounir Errami
2) If we take two users randomly what are the chances that they share any bookmarks? the point is that a stat study can show when to introduce users to each other for collaboration, or simply because they share a similar interest (competition?). I would also dig around the time consuming paper submission process. For instance identifying reviewers, that's where suggestion 1 would pay. I have to think more about this one. - Mounir Errami
Ian, sorry for this late response (sorry all, no time to read all your 39 answers...). What I expect from connotea: 1) more reliable, faster. 2) an option for hiding my tags in my page and in the popup windon (takes hours to load !) 3) seeing my group just like delicious networks: hide my entries. 4) complete the profiles (geo-position: what is the closest person interested in NFkB ?). - Pierre Lindenbaum