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Karen Wickre
From the 'plex this a.m. - I'm feeling hungry. And robotic.
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cupcake and donut. - Matt Cutts
Where is that? I missed it when I was there last week. - Jesse Stay
Hmmm, is this a 'you are what you picture' moment? ;-) - iconic88
@Jesse It's in front of Building 44 (across Charleston from main campus). - EricaJoy
Erica, I'll have to look for it next time - Jesse Stay
I'd like to hug the Android <3 - Vedrana Janković
Adrián Bertolini
#OneHitWonders [Men Without Hats – The Safety Dance] ...Without hats, without music, without lyrics, without ... ♫ http://blip.fm/profile...
Louis Gray
Mystery Google offers Mystery Google Search Results - http://www.inquisitr.com/42180...
Matt Cutts
جوجل يفهم العربية ولو حدثته بغيره - http://manoo-b.blogspot.com/2009...
جوجل يفهم العربية ولو حدثته بغيره
I think this post says "Google's spellcheck works well for Arabic." But I'm not sure. Any Arabic speakers want to confirm? - Matt Cutts from Bookmarklet
No, it says "Google understands arabic even when you talk anything else (another language) with him " :-) - directeur
is this for real? Sorry SML doesn't speak arabic. - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Jason Pollock
30,000 Passwords exposed. Change your passwords.http://www.businessinsider.com/gmail-y... rt @deyto
Demi Moore
Visiting the David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust-amazing baby orphan elephants! http://twitpic.com/kgt8x http://www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org
Visiting the David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust-amazing baby orphan elephants! http://twitpic.com/kgt8x http://www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org
D- What a cute picture!Awwww - Crista Pedraza
Shelly DeMotte Kramer
20 People Who Started As Bloggers, Who Are Now So Much More! | Income Diary - http://www.incomediary.com/top-20-...
Robert Scoble
I just spoke with FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit. Did you know that he promised family that FriendFeed would continue? More:
He told me they messed up by not communicating better last week. The deal happened so fast that they didn't pay attention to everything. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I like how this is starting - Robert DeBord
o0o0o0 - Mark
as its own service? - Lee
you are the one who keeps proclaiming its death - Mark
That's what Compaq said when they purchased DEC. (for those of you old enough to remember) - RobinDotNet
A promise is not a guarantee. - Amit Morson
Such a tease, Robert. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
More smoke-blowing. I don't care of Paul swore on the graves of his ancestors. Actions speak louder than words. Some vague promise to a group of people I'm excluded from doesn't do much to assuage my unease. - Akiva
Akiva, you're right, but it's not smoke. - Louis Gray
Okay, Louis, true. I retract that first sentence. The rest of it, however, I'm sticking by. - Akiva
Akiva: well I feel a lot better about things today. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Continue just as it is? Or with key changes? - Karma Martell
I would expect them to post more on this topic soon - on their personal blogs. - Louis Gray
If that's what Paul wants to promise us, he needs to release some kind of official statement, not send a message through Robert. - Rochelle
Soon. - Louis Gray
I bet you as part of the contract, its in there not to shut this down - Stephen Pickering
Rochelle: there are too many unknowns to make a definitive statement yet. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
keeping my hopes up. but i do remember working at a few radio stations that were bought, we'd get a memo saying 'the format is not going to change' about three weeks before we switched to spanish. i think there is just too much here for ff to vanish. keep the dream alive! - michael sean wright
How can he when it`s lost all of its autonomy? Supplanted by Facebook, bought outright no? - sofarsoShawn
It couldve been part of the deal not to let the site die - Stephen Pickering
Robert, like you said, one can hope. However both of us know how corporates work and it takes one small decision from share holders to close down the service, no matter what. - Nir Ben Yona
They want to get to Facebook and get those unknowns nailed down first. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Holden and Rochelle, etc., let's be patient. If you see the post I put up last night and add Robert's comments here, we should be feeling a lot better today than we did on Monday. - Louis Gray
Robert, all right. Well, after my initial freak-out over this, I've gone into complete wait-and-see mode. More of these vague promises and 'coming soon' messages don't really do much for me. When someone say something definitive, then I'll be there to consume it. The rest of this just doesn't add up for much. - Akiva
That was a great post Louis - Stephen Pickering
Thanks, Stephen. I thought it was important. - Louis Gray
Akiva, exactly, waiting for official word. - Kol Tregaskes
Nir: the way it was told to me contractually it can't be closed down anytime soon. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I hope they don't change it so you have to have a Facebook account to use it. I have one, but share it with very few; I use Twitter and FF for everyone. I want to be able to use it the way I do now. - RobinDotNet
Like any takeover/merger, some details just take time to work out. Hopefully FF can stay around in some form and help make FB better. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, Robert, for the info. - Mark Edwards
I agree, we haven`t seen anything substantive in the way of contract etc but fingers crossed. - sofarsoShawn
But doesn't mean it won't be shutdown at some point? - Kol Tregaskes
And, Louis, I didn't see your post from last night but I'll read it as soon as I get back from the store. - Akiva
was Pownce a bit like Friendfeed? I never used it - Mark
I can't get my hopes up when Facebook is in the picture. :-( - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Stable Door and Horse comes to mind. - Kevin J Hatton
The fact that the FF folks haven't yet said "This is how we want it, so this is how it's going to be" is just evidence that they don't have the final say on the matter. If it's subject to some additional authority/approval, nothing is certain at this point. - Ken Sheppardson
Kol: it won't be shut down anytime soon. He was quite clear about that. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Kol, the truth is they work for Facebook now, and therefore, FriendFeed can/will change, and it may not change 100% how you and I want. It may be part of Facebook's site later, and it may not. But Facebook is changing from what we know of it now to something new where they overlap. - Louis Gray
In other words that was in the contract. Makes sense, since they were hesitant anyway - Stephen Pickering
Robert, OK but maybe at some point though. - Kol Tregaskes
I sure would like it if FF continued indefinitely. - Jason Nunnelley
Kol: nothing in life is guaranteed. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Patience is a good thing. That said, if FriendFeed wasn't growing at a rate much higher than it has been, something would have to change. You don't bottle up such talent and experience and have it work on a product that was losing. - Louis Gray
Robert, What about death and taxes? - RobinDotNet
Good to hear. I am sure they will take time to decide what exactly to do with FF. How to integrate them together. What to do etc. FF the R&D for FB I think it could be - Robert Anderson
Robert, true. All a bit vague still though. - Kol Tregaskes
Scoble: encourage Facebook to keep FriendFeed as a premium brand. Let them tie it to Facebook data or whatever, but keep the system separate. - Gary
Louis, right, this gives them legitimacy and exposure - Stephen Pickering
Kol... if they wanted to grow they way they "deserved" to grow, this place would have changed underneath your feet to something you might hate. This is one way to put real capital and people behind the site as it is now. - Louis Gray
If this thing grows by leaps and bounds, FB is not going to close it - Stephen Pickering
Mark: anytime a blogger says something is dead ALL that means is that it is less interesting than yesterday. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Over time, we will learn, Sam. It's a classical marketing/engineering decision. Do you build for the current user base, or the potential user base? With change. some were bound to leave anyway. - Louis Gray
Louis, not arguing that at all. My point was about shutting it down or not. I'm at the wait-and-see stage, waiting for more news from FF. - Kol Tregaskes
And any time I write a headline that says it's NOT dead... maybe I know what I'm talking about. :) - Louis Gray
But this service grows more useful the more users there are - Stephen Pickering
Something needs to happen. Twitter is useless now - maybe a new denial of service attack. I would love to see the Friendfeed technology spread to the mass user base that Facebook has. - Frode Stenstrøm
Well, at least he acknowledged they messed up. - Rodfather
Frode: that was what Paul told me too. He wants the tech here to be used by everyone. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I don't understand why Google didn't buy it instead. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Rod, FriendFeed has no PR or Marketing. Maybe if they did, this would have been handled differently. Some things come naturally, and others are hard. But I bet you will see a lot more soon. - Louis Gray
I've heard the same from another founder, Robert. - Anne Bouey
Franz, no official word, just wait for an announcement from FF. - Kol Tregaskes
They didn't want to work for google again. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Makes you wonder about a due diligence ckecklist and the speed of getting this deal done - courtney benson
Kinda why they left. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Right, look at Google Reader. They don't know how to do social - Stephen Pickering
It's all wonky and hard to understand - Stephen Pickering
But GR is going in that direction. - Kol Tregaskes
Companies come and companies go. They can go by closing their doors or by being acquired. Only time will tell whether FriendFeed has come and gone. - Jeff Sayre
GR is trying, but its all wonky and totally un understandable - Stephen Pickering
Oh. I just don't trust Facebook at all and can barely stand using it after being here. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer, I think we have to look beyond the caricatures of people like Zuckerberg, and recognize that he too may want the same things we do. Facebook is growing up and I bet FriendFeed and its team is a big part of that. - Louis Gray
Louis, hope so. - Kol Tregaskes
courtney: Paul talked about that too. He said once the team made the decision they knew it had to be closed overnight to prevent it from leaking. - Robert Scoble
Louis I think its a perfect marriage, genius engineers + genius Marketers - Stephen Pickering
Well, he didn't quite say "prevent it from leaking" but he said "it's important to do it all at once." I knew what he meant, though, that it had to be done fast to keep things from getting crazy, like they do once decisions like this get taken into public sphere. - Robert Scoble
I am sure paul is truthful in that he would like for it to go that way, but this is a M&A situation, and even if it is written into the agreement, there are a million ways around it. At the end of the day, shareholders make the rules in a majority vote. If ff isn't integrated in fb somehow, I fail to see how it benefits fb. - Erik Boles from iPhone
Kol: Paul was emphatic that Facebook is a far more interesting company at this time in both company's history. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Somehow this doesn't sound too convincing. If Friendfeed has been losing a LOT of regular users because of their deal with Facebook, they'd be concerned. Friendfeed is likely to get you to speak on their behalf, since you are their most popular user. Maybe Paul is trying to convince you, so that he can indirectly convince others too. That might save an early end to Friendfeed brought on by the rapid loss of users. - K N Ajit Narayan
I totally agree with Paul, by the way. Facebook is a much more interesting company to join right now than Google is. - Robert Scoble
Facebook = Microsoft 2.0 - scott anderson
Robert: Did he mention anything about Mashable reporting an acquisition had been talked about since `07? - sofarsoShawn
YAY! thanks Scoble for letting us know - i feel alot better today! - Chris Clayton
Hey, Microsoft had a decent run - Stephen Pickering
Louis: yeah, Zuckerberg is a lot smarter and a lot more down to earth than most of the press gives him credit for. He's always been straight up with me. Much better than other companies have treated me. - Robert Scoble
And that's even including getting kicked off of Facebook for 24 hours. - Robert Scoble
@ Scott, LOL Facebook = Microsoft 2.0! I see your point, but it far surpasses Microsoft Live attempt at a social network. - Nakeva Corothers
Erik: technologies that have great audiences don't get killed. If anything will kill it, it will be us. By leaving. - Robert Scoble
Robert, cool. Well if they can ditch a lot of their annoying features, like this FB Lite might be, then I might be interested in moving over with all the FF features implemented but I just can't work with FB in it's currently state. I had another go this weekend and still didn't like it. But I'd be even happier if FF stayed here. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
this is gonna be an interesting story to follow for sure. For now I am just using friendfeed the way I have been and see what comes out down the road. life is about changes. - (jeff)isageek
sofarsoShawn: I don't know what you're talking about regarding Mashable. - Robert Scoble
Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but why can't they just come out and say something directly to the community? Obviously a lot of people are concerned and anxious about it... Why do we have to hear second-hand? And why has it all been so vague? No news is not necessarily good news in cases like this. - Lindsay
Robert, Leo called himself Leo Scoble today because he deleted his 5000 FB friends and moved them over to his fan page - Stephen Pickering
jeff: yeah. Visiting Facebook is going to get more interesting. He also said that the first month at Facebook (which starts Monday) will be all about learning about Facebook's code. So, no new features will come quickly. - Robert Scoble
Ok. I hope Facebook changes a LOT so it's more tolerable. Although I don't like it, I need to set up a good Facebook page for business so I can remain competitive. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hope they do right by you. You brought them to the party. I hope that gets recognized somehow monetarily. - Jim Posner
Saying that it might be shut down at some point doesn't tell us anything new, though; after all, any site might be shut down at some point due to going out of business etc. - Tristan Seligmann
When anything comes out of this it was always going to be long term. - Kol Tregaskes
Can i just add - Paul never said friendfeed was going to die in the first place... instead they said the complete opposite - "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." - Chris Clayton
sofarsoShawn, yes, Facebook had been talking to FriendFeed since 2007. - Louis Gray
Lindsay, I bet the FriendFeed team has a very busy week and maybe you hear from them on all this soon. - Louis Gray
Robert: "technologies that have great audiences don't get killed..." oh, come on, you know better than that! My dad worked at IBM so I've been seeing tech companies kill great stuff that their customers liked for most of my life!!!! - Fred Davis
Jim, Scoble has gotten no money from FriendFeed (nor have I). Neither one of us expects to, as that would change the relationship. - Louis Gray
Fred, right, the Innovators Dilemma, but in this case its cost of running a website is halving every year - Stephen Pickering
Louis: yes, but Paul told me that when I last was in the office they hadn't yet decided to go to Facebook. Everything happened in the past two weeks. I think you even walked in on one of their key decision points. He said they worked all weekend long on the agreement. - Robert Scoble
Fred: nothing in life is guaranteed, yeah, you're right. But there's no business reason to turn this off anytime soon. If we all leave there will be. - Robert Scoble
Robert: e.g., consumer company changes focus to biz or gets acquired... new company direction leads to consumer products getting killed despite popularity... that's just one of many ways that good tech gets killed all the time!!! - Fred Davis
No disagreement on that at all, Robert. I know I walked in on something big, and that was my mistake for not calling ahead. - Louis Gray
Seems their valuation stood on Roberts shoulders to some degree. At the least, a public thanks would have been nice. - Jim Posner
Jason: i know, thats what got me freaked out too - i just thought i would add it in incase anyone missed it :) and because im a little bored! lol - Chris Clayton
Fred, can you give any examples? Any software I used to use that is no longer available was replaced with something better. - RobinDotNet
No business reason that WE understand... 'cuz we don;t go to Facebook board meetings ;-) Facebook may have their own agenda... in fact, I assume they do... - Fred Davis
Jim: I do this because I love it, not because I expect thanks or goodies. - Robert Scoble
Why even bring this up if they can't talk about it? Nothing has changed just more innuendo and smoke and mirrors and a lot of 'what ifs'. Wake me when there's something concrete. - Derrick
Robert: when you talk to paul next, can you push him into doing a public announcement on it all? Just give him a nudge in the right direction! :) - Chris Clayton
RobinDotNet... god, too many to count! First one I was bummed about was in '85 when Musicworks was the best MIDI program on the Mac... got acquired by some jerky game company that decided it wasn't a game and stranded all the users! Yeah, eventually new better stuff came along... but that didn't do the users of the current any good at that time... - Fred Davis
Derrick: sorry, I totally disagree. I didn't know that contractually they can't kill the service anytime soon. - Robert Scoble
Derrick, there is more than smoke. - Louis Gray
It makes sense, they had leverage to make that deal - Stephen Pickering
Fred -- Okay, so that was one that was 24 years ago. Have any more recent examples? If you can't think of any, then they obviously weren't that important. - RobinDotNet
Because they were hesitant, they had the leverage to make that part of the deal. Makes total sense - Stephen Pickering
Um, apple buys leading music sequencing package and kills of PC version because, um, they want to force you to use a mac... come on, the list is endless!!! Companies screw customers by killing good products for their own reasons all the time.... - Fred Davis
Fred, you keep saying the list is endless, but the only one you can name is one that came out about 2 years after the 1st Mac, 24 years ago. I'm just saying.... - RobinDotNet
Fred, but what if part of the deal was not to kill it? - Stephen Pickering
Derrick: believe me, Louis and I have been talking and concerned about the messaging coming out of this deal more than anyone. We both invested a lot of our time/careers here. Louis has been talking with the team too and that's where his post came from yesterday. I suggest you read it and read between the lines too. - Robert Scoble
Understand Robert, Really not about your motivation, just good manners in my opinion for Friendfeed to thank you publically. Maybe they have and I missed it. I think you did more for promoting the service than the founders. - Jim Posner
now, what facebook decides to do with friendfeed... who knows... Yahoo kept Flickr going... so far... but that seems like the exception... no one's really using jabber any more, but it lives on in the upcoming Wave and as XMPP at Google... - Fred Davis
Jim: thanks, appreciate it. Paul did thank me in the interview I did with him right after the announcement was made. - Robert Scoble
If there is a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running, the obvious question is what does this contract state and does it give a duration. Hopefully we'll hear more later. - Kol Tregaskes
Why? What would be the point? I respect you two enough and all that you do in the world of social media and that's fine. I want a place I can converse, post my pictures, air my gripes, and continue to establish the friends I've made via Friendfeed. Will I be able to do that or not? I'm so tired of the conjecture. Some of us, are just people who love the service and more than anything, very simply, we just want to be able to utilize it. - Derrick
Kol: I call it the "Paul is sleeping on the couch for a month" clause. ;-) - Robert Scoble
LOL, Robert. - Kol Tregaskes
For a company like Facebook, I would imagine that the consolidation of branding advantage would lead me to suspect that even if Friendfeed is kept going in some way, it will be re-branded as Facebook... just like Longs, Wamu, and Wells Fargo are going through right in Facebook's backyard. - Fred Davis
Derrick, this is the place to do that. :) - Louis Gray
"For now". ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Throws sheep at Kol - Louis Gray
Hehe, Louis. - Kol Tregaskes
The other main issue I have is that, now we are creating content for Facebook. Facebook owns our data. For some reason I didn't mind Paul and his team, they were blacksheep. If I wanted to make Facebook richer I would type in Facebook in the URL. I dont want to make Facebook richer. - Robert Higgins
What are the alternatives to FF? Isn't there Streamy, Plurk, SocialThing? - Eric
Louis, I'll be counting sheep soon, need sleep. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Of course, since I'm hoping Grabbit will replace Friendfeed for most people, I'm more than a little biased, and that makes me care a lot less about what happens to Friendfeed... even though I love the service, and hope Facebook keeps it going. We're already planning to support Friendfeed in Grabbit, and the new Friendfeed API is awesome, so who knows what the extent of the disruption... more... - Fred Davis
Sam, I know there is something. I am upset, because I wanted to buy FF someday! :) - Eric
There has to be an alternative. - Eric
Jason: too early to know that for sure. I'd start with the API. From what my friends are telling me who are good developers the API is actually very well thought out. - Robert Scoble
There was an alternative, but I think it shut down. - Eric
There is no need to replace FriendFeed. That there are options to decentralize our info is great, but I'm not going anywhere. - Louis Gray
It was called SocialThing. - Eric
Fred: I just don't like Facebook's service for WHAT I DO. For my wife? It's freaking awesome. And the execs there have always treated me very well (Zuckerberg walked around Davos with me, while every other journalist was drooling over the opportunity to do that -- he's a lot nicer and smarter than most people give him credit for). - Robert Scoble
Eric & Jason: my new web thingie Grabbit, will do everything Friendfeed does and more, so much more... it's still in alpha, and the beta won't be out until next month... but already the alpha features better Facebook and integration than Friendfeed, IMHO... so, check out grabbit.net and ask to be on the beta list, and we'll keep you posted... - Fred Davis
It was called Rejaw, and it was shut down. - Eric
Fred: can't wait to see more about Grabbit. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Hey dude, I TOTALLY agree with you about Facebook! I've been telling people for a while that I think Facebook is in the process of Yahoo-ing themselves... and that ain't no compliment! - Fred Davis
FriendFeed family or real family? - Mona Nomura
FF is crazy to sell. They should've sold to Google, what were they thinking? - Eric
louis i agree with you. i am not going anywhere either. this is the place i love and think is awesome - (jeff)isageek
Robert, is Paul referencing his FriendFeed family or real family? (not expanding thread - too long) - Mona Nomura
Mona: real family AND FriendFeed family. They are one and the same if you look at it the right way. - Robert Scoble
Sam: what do you mean "intergrate email" friendfeed already has email features so it depends on what you mean... - Chris Clayton
Same here, Jeff. If FF is still around I'm not budging. It it goes FB on us then it's bye-bye. - Kol Tregaskes
Google Wave is like FF? - Eric
Sam, got that in Grabbit... email, RSS, blog alerts, news alerts, and more... plus the coolest friend management stuff to help you sort all that out, not just the messages, updates, and alerts... - Fred Davis
Mona: if you want me to do something for you, talk Maryam into it first. :-) - Robert Scoble
Eric: just like the others you mentioned, it has 1 or 2 similar features, but completely different! - Chris Clayton
and twitter, facebook, friendfeed, etc., of course... we're starting a signup on grabbit.net... - Fred Davis
I used to use FeedEachOther which was like FF. - Eric
Now there is Google Reader. - Eric
Google reader is improving, but still has a long way to go. On the social side. - Bluesun 2600
That's the one thing I've always liked about FriendFeed - the founders (and staff) interacts with the community, as do their family members. The community members were treated like family, too. :) Whatever which way, hopefully Facebook will integrate FriendFeed's functions to carry on the "feel" over there as well. Personally, I have the more the merrier approach! BTW see you Thursday, Robert! Gnomedex sold out! - Mona Nomura
I'm not up to speed with this discussion, but FB must have bought FF to merge FF tech into FB. FF for everybody, not just Scoble and tech friends. - Zato Gibson
Sam: i was actually looking for a way to have the subjects of my emails show up on my friendfeed dashboard awhile ago - do you mean like that? Because that would be awesome! - Chris Clayton
i would love to see friendfeed get a killer mobile app...maybe improve on fftogo a little more - (jeff)isageek
Google Reader is my current alternative btw. I've found the share box today and now using it like FF's share box. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Google Reader is great, but it's not built to replace FriendFeed. It's not an aggregator, for one. - Louis Gray
one thing is I don't think you can share images from pages as easily as FF's share. - Bluesun 2600
Life2front has anyone heard of it? - Eric
i think you can look at two services that were bought up and never really changed all this time in flickr and delicous so hey maybe friendfeed stays around as it is...maybe just integrates a bit more or something with facebook - (jeff)isageek
Well you can put your services into a folder then create a bundle and share it. But no not quite like FF. It lacks a lot of features and Comments view is awful. - Kol Tregaskes
and look how long google had grand central before they really even started doing anything with it. - (jeff)isageek
So Friendfeed stays on as a side project instead of being abandoned. Does that really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? The service isn't going to grow by leaps and bounds either in audience or functionality now. I guess a slow death is easier for people to deal with than a quick one. - Dare Obasanjo
Sam: i love that idea... email services dont have RSS (not that i can find anyway) i was looking for 5 hours for one afew months ago so i could put it in a private group to show up on my FF stream. but i ended up being dissapointed! - Chris Clayton
I hope we all converge over to Google Wave and that some clever sod codes a FF-type service built on the Wave protocol. :-) GWave is great fun to use! - Kol Tregaskes
Kol: are you going to send me a download link? :P im still waiting for it from the 'sneak peek' survey i filled out AGES ago! - Chris Clayton
Whhhhhhat how`d you try it already? - sofarsoShawn
Dare: there are lots of things that don't get many new features but are still very popular. FriendFeed still has way more features and is better technology than anything else I've seen in the marketplace. Maybe someone will eclipse it, but that won't happen soon and, yes, a slow death is definitely better than a quick one. Why? Cause you can make plans and change your behavior. - Robert Scoble
Download link for GWave? Don't work like that. ;-) Just wait until 30th September, Chris. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Kol: but september is too long to wait :( blame scoble for making me a social media addict! :) - Chris Clayton
Hehe, it will fly by. - Kol Tregaskes
Robert: if this is just about whether they'll shut off the servers or not then why is this even causing hubbub? Given the complaining of a vocal set of users I'm sure that even if they planned to shut off the site, it'll keep going for a while. However it seems obvious that all their innovative ideas and day time hacking should be filled with innovating on Facebook not here. - Dare Obasanjo
As both Louis and I have said - these guys have been nothing but actions thus far and haven't let us down. I see nothing changing from that yet, so I suggest everyone continue that trust. They have done nothing to break that trust yet. And like I wrote about, Facebook needs them as much as they need Facebook - Facebook wants to change into something more of what FriendFeed is, from what I've seen and read. - Jesse Stay
It's not about shutting the servers off for some (most?) folks, it's a matter of how you reconcile FriendFeed and Facebook's views on content licensing, ownership, and privacy; whether we'll continue to see innovation at a pace faster than what Facebook's user base has historically been comfortable with; and whether we'll see a continuation of Friendfeed's openness towards third party developers and the open source community. - Ken Sheppardson
And as I've said over and over again, Jesse, I think most of us trust the FriendFeed folks as individuals, but that trust doesn't necessarily transfer to Facebook as an institution. - Ken Sheppardson
I second Ken. Zuckerbergs plans/dreams are also a kind of wild-card here. They could be favorable to us FriendFeed users, or not. Up till now, Zuckerberg hasn't done much favorable for me. That sucks. I wish it were different. - Meryn Stol
Say what you want about Facebook but Zuckerberg and/or Facebook has revolutionized the Internet by forcing people to be real. (not real-time) It even reflects on Youtube - the commenters aren't as moronic as they were say three years ago, since more and more people are using their real names and identities. - Mona Nomura
It's always like this and it never turns out the way Paul says it will, though I believe his intentions are honorable. At some point you no longer work for the old company and you start working for the new one. My guess is this has already happened. Soon people from the old team will have their new assignments, and then one day the server will go down. They'll bring it back up, but... more... - Dave Winer
Damn, Dave. And I thought that *I* was a cynic. - Akiva
Akiva, I've been through it myself, and been in Paul's position. - Dave Winer
Dave, I don't doubt that at all. It's just amazing from my perspective to see it put so honestly. Well put, sir. - Akiva
Only when I was in Paul's position, I had a simpler situation cause we were developing shrinkwrap software and our mission was supposedly unchanged. We didn't have servers that had to be kept up 24-by-7. Even so, six months after the merger, the whole thing was turned upside down and the team had all-new priorities and tons of people had left, including the top guy (me!). I would get... more... - Dave Winer
Well put, Mona! - Jesse Stay
Dave, I expect it to change, but I also expect that Facebook is doing this for not just the team they just acquired. I think Facebook really wants this technology. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, that may be true but they'll want it for Facebook. And if you're a fan of Facebook, that's great, Facebook's going to get better. But if you're not? If you're a a fan of FriendFeed? Then all you're going to end up with is a bastardized FriendFeed with lots of dipshit apps. - Akiva
Jesse: I'm not so sure. The technology will need to be rebuilt for the Facebook infrastructure. That's one reason why Paul doesn't have good answers for us yet. He said he needs a few weeks to really dig into Facebook's code base before he even has a good idea of where he and the FriendFeed'ers can really add value. - Robert Scoble
Akiva, I'm a fan of both. And you know you can ignore those apps - that's not something you can do on FriendFeed or Twitter. FriendFeed would have gotten just as bad as it grew. - Jesse Stay
Dave: thinking back on why I joined FriendFeed, it was because I expected that the team would do something interesting in the future. That reason has now been fulfilled and now that these guys are at Facebook it'll be interesting to see what they do. - Robert Scoble
Jesse, where is the button to ignore the apps? I want to ignore all of them, all the time. Instead, I have to click hide on every single bloody one of them and still get notifications from people wanting me to add apps. I'd tolerate Facebook better if there was a magic "no apps, ever" button. - Rochelle
Somewhat selfishly, I have just gained a whole load of new friends on Fb, here and on Google Reader and have learned loads about sharing and subscribing for which I thank you all :-) I will just watch and wait now, but I do agree that if everyone dashes off somewhere else and deserts FF, it could well hasten its demise. Best to try and use all the services and interlink them if we can. - Julia Ault
Rochelle: I want you to install the FriendFeed app. :) - Louis Gray
I am sure that FB was not happy if FF was going into MS hands or Google hands ,they bought it and now they will be the most important live and live search player on top of the best social community,,I am happy for them and for us as well ,they will keep our home and thats great news - Johni Fisher
Jesse, this is true. I guess my real point is—aside from the easy-as-punch Facebook app snarking—that the very philosophies on which each service was built are essentially different. I'm not saying that these divergent ideas can't be unified. I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. I'm sure the... more... - Akiva
Wish I was a millionaire like him :/ - Mark
"I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. " - very well put, Akiva. - Meryn Stol
Akiva, who says they will become one site? Why not enable the two communities to remain separate if they want, under the Facebook brand? I don't think we know yet what will happen. - Jesse Stay
Good news because I love friend feed in it's current format. - Rob Cairns
Robert, yes, we don't know for sure, but then again we don't know for sure - I don't see reason to change too much of our trust until something actually happens. I do know Facebook wants to open up more, while still retaining your right to privacy. The privacy thing is something FriendFeed (or Twitter) doesn't have, and I think would be a welcome addition. - Jesse Stay
Rochelle, you have to do it either by app, or individual (unless I've missed the option). That said, I would kill for the ability to do that on FriendFeed or Twitter. They don't even have that. - Jesse Stay
Jesse: FriendFeed doesn't have apps, so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to; if you mean the ability to hide posts aggregated from a particular service, that's already there. - Tristan Seligmann
Last I checked, Jesse, FriendFeed didn't have MafiaWars or Superpoke. - Akiva
(If you click on "Hide", and then "hide other items like this one", you get a whole list of options) - Tristan Seligmann
FriendFeed has a finite number of things to hide ("all items from Bob", "all Flickr posts", etc.). That's much more easy control than the thousands of apps on Facebook. It's like playing whack-a-mole over there. It feels like the more I hide, the more they appear. - Rochelle
Akiva, Tristan, it's only a matter of time before the auto-dm apps appeared on FriendFeed. So long as FriendFeed grows, they will come. So long as it doesn't grow, it *does* disappear. There's no "hide all from the app that generated this DM" option on FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, and, with all of the hide options already present on FriendFeed, you don't think the devs would have had the presence of mind to include something similar for any supposed FriendFeed apps? - Akiva
Akiva, I trust that they'll add that as much as I trust they'll continue to fight for FriendFeed at Facebook. - Jesse Stay
They don't even need any extra options; you can already hide direct posts based on the application that created them. For example, if you hide this post of Robert's, you'll get the option to hide all posts by iPhone. - Tristan Seligmann
Jesse, I think no-one doubts that *they* will fight. The question is if they win. They're just employees now. - Meryn Stol
Again, I'm surprised that my own cynicism—legendary in its own right—is being beaten about the face and neck in this thread. - Akiva
Meryn, I also know the Facebook team - they're just as competent as FriendFeed's. Their original audience started different than FF's, but they too have to expand. - Jesse Stay
Holden: engagement. - Robert Scoble
It's hard for innovators to stop innovating, and for entrepreneurs to lose the total freedom and self-reliance that drives them. Every entrepreneur that I know personally (only a few, alas!) who has sold for the big bucks has eventually gone on to create something else. - Kathy Fitch
Jesse, as I said earlier, my lack of knowledge on the plans of Zuckerberg is the problem. Do you know Zuckerberg? In the end, he's gonna decide what appears on Facebook or not. Also, it's not so much a matter of competence than it is a matter of vision and taste. - Meryn Stol
I'm sure the FB engineers are competent. - Meryn Stol
And wouldn't it be fascinating to have a gander at the kinds of separation agreements folks who leave FB must sign? Almost as interesting as seeing the acquisition agreement in this case. - Kathy Fitch
It's totally unclear if future conversations we might have on FB will ever be indexable by Google. (or any other search engine) That all depends on Zuckerberg's final say. I can't look in the guy's head. - Meryn Stol
Sure seems like you're scrambling, Robert, to place yourself in the center of this when you were completely blindsided by the sale. Justs sayin' - Mattb4rd
Louis, nope! Those are two separate worlds for me and I intend to keep it that way. - Rochelle
Once you stop owning something you lose the ability to make promises about it. Good intentions or no. One hard headed business decision like FF is not earning its keep or we need the resources elsewhere and it's done. Been on both sides. - Todd Hoff
The only thing that would make a real difference in this case would be an unambiguous statement from Mark Zuckerberg himself. Let him address the FF community and actually say what he will commit himself to. I suppose he's a man of his word. - Meryn Stol
Good news. Doin' the right thing! - Rob Schieber
Yeah sure! Promises Promises!!! - Jose Luis Santos
Hmm. A whole lot of the sale was in stock options. Takes awhile to get fully vested. The next few years should prove very interesting. - Kathy Fitch
How can you live up to that promises when you no longer own it? - John D Reasor
Actions speak louder then words, and the key is the final decision is no longer up to him. I am sure Paul means every word he says I just not sure he is going to be able to keep it. - Kim Landwehr
"Promises are a bourgeois invention and, anyway, they're meant to be broken." [V. I. Lenin quoted from inexact memory] by - ianf ⌘
@louisgray's »If you see the post I put up last night...« <http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...> If you cared for others to read that post, you'd have included a direct link to it. It's the essence of hypertext, and any "Silicon Valley early adopter, tech geek blogger" worth the name would have done just... more... - ianf ⌘
It would make some business sense to keep FF as some kind of separate site/module, if just to stop another site taking it's place and becoming another competitor. - Robert Littlejohn
Hi Ian! I get what you are saying, but sometimes, dropping links to my own posts in other people's threads looks like spam. I also believe a good number of people saw it, and know how to get it otherwise. That said, it's right here: http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray
Robert - To say Facebook is more interesting to work for than Google may be a stretch. While Facebook is growing exponentially and has challenges, Google faces HUGE challenges just staying Google ... while exploring new areas of growth. Keeping the index relevant is a big challenge in itself. On the other hand ... the 'FF guys' have worked there already and know how they feel about what direction they wanted to go ... which .. I think ... makes a little more sense? - Charlie Anzman
Charlie: remember most of this team already worked at Google. Facebook is pre IPO. Google is not. The potential rewards are much larger at Facebook and the potential to have an impact is much larger at Facebook too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Posting links (references) to one's other posts "looks like spam"? That's news to me, and a lame excuse. In any event, given main difference between worlds of analog and digital publishing being ability in the latter case to refer back to source in unambiguous and granular fashion (rather than, as in analog, to indicate issue, chapter, page, verse, line, etc - if at all), not including... more... - ianf ⌘
ianf, I agree, but it feels like spam when you're doing it. Encourage him nicely. - Bruce Lewis
i suspect that, if FF were to survive relatively unchanged it will be through an open-source effort. i doubt FF will survive as a stand-alone site w/ Fb paying the freight. - MikeAmundsen
Keep in mind that despite the best intentions, nearly half of all sincere promises end in divorce. - April Russo
Robert: I agree that the technology with great audiences don't get killed off, but the name of the game to the shareholders is money. It makes a ton more sense for facebook to integrate friendfeed into facebook, an already monetizable model, vs. leaving it as a de-coupled technology that has to have a new revenue model built for it. - Erik Boles
like x1000 - Vezquex
With so much money still on the table in the form of stock options, there's certainly plenty of motivation to make FB stellar. If FF ends up being treated well, too (for whatever reason--a promise, a warm fuzzy feeling, its potential role in helping to make FB stellar), then I'm all for that. - Kathy Fitch
There is a way to argue keeping FF going makes sense to FB: The important thing in social software ISN'T the software, it's the people who use it. If the people who use FF are sufficiently different to those on FB, then it could make sense to keep both services. Possibly they may end up using the same software, but have different brands. Think of VW group in cars (SEAT/Skoda/VS/Audi are... more... - Nick Lothian
Interesting thread. I think that Paul has the best intention and he will do everything he can to keep the existing service up. Dave Winer has a good summary of the forces he will have to fight against. Making a Facebook vs. Google vs. Microsoft decision was probably a hard one. I am wondering if Twitter was in the race too...Twitter + Friendfeed could have been a great team to go... more... - Edwin Khodabakchian
Why the outreach now and not earlier in the week? Has something spooked the FF team? Seeing people looking for alternatives, and poking around Google Reader, Streamy, SocialThing, perhaps? Robert said it himself, if people leave here, FF dies, and the team doesn't have a whole lot to sell to FB (yeah, arguably) and that could scotch the whole deal. So I'm just wondering why the outreach now? - Dominic Jones
ianf: don't you know, links are dead? ;) - Tristan Seligmann
read it from the begining, I'm happy FF crew is beginning to acknowledge the questions, Dave definitely has a point, but all-in-all I thought death was near, it looks like it gets delayed for some time. The main thing is ppl are still here although reader is the new playground...unfortunately the communication with their team isn't all that good... - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir, "read [297 more comments] from the begining" is not a good advice for anything, least of all here, in the Kingdom of Perpetual Constant Fragmentary Attention Overload, where realtime fly-by comments are the rule. - ianf ⌘
Robert, thank you for sharing this info. I hope everyone got the message clearly. Wonderful news! - Michael Fidler from iPhone
It is not whether Friendfeed lives or dies. It's whether our free-wheeling, anarchic, community-driven approach will be replaced by the bland family-oriented guidelines of Facebook. Will we still be able to chuckle of Asian men on a beach, for example? - Aaman (Clone of FF)
hey all, we can't return to the past, what happen has already happened, now the question is this one, may a micro community survive inside a large community, the answer is YES, FF community can and may have the same social behaviour it has here, and when move to FB, we need just to preserve our connections, and to maintain the same behaviour. that all, but even ancients tribes don't survive without scarifying some of their tradition. - abdellah
Will Friend feed just get - morphed into Facebook now? clearly they want to take on Twitter. I noticed that I tryed to remove my Friend feed from facebook recently because less techy friends complained that I take over there Friend feeds...! But I can't... mmmm - PRBristolco.uk
FaceFeed. Nom nom nom. - Marlin Forbes
My goodness, there needs to be a way to search comments...I scanned to see if Paul had chimed in, but didn't see that. - Chad Gesser
Scobe: I hope he does chime in. I think he needs to since you broke that. - Chad Gesser
Chad: I think he'll say more after he has a little time at Facebook and can give definitive answers as to what the FriendFeed team is going to do there. He told me that will take several weeks. - Robert Scoble
no i didnt know that - Chris Nwakalo
if so wonderful news - Ronald
Facebook is genuinely interested in best in class customer experience. I can't yet envision what features or practices are incorporated or left behind, but it seems a positive move for users. There is always a die-hard loyal following that doesn't want to see their Freind (feed) go away. Heck, I still record The West Wing on Bravo. - Jeff Marmins
Yeah i sure hope so robert. . i really rather not be on facebook. - RamirezG
Chad, to aid in scanning, you can do a Ctrl-F (or equivalent) and search the current page for "- Paul Buchheit" and/or install my user script that adds a mini avatar to the beginning of each comment http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah
Scoble, why do you think FriendFeed won't get sacrificed by Facebook management? Most sensible thing, to me, is to get FriendFeed integrated as a feature of Facebook, then eliminate the individual brand. Fact is, it's Facebook's decision at this point, unless the FriendFeed guys got something in writing to the contrary (which likely didn't happen). Sometimes you've got to go with your... more... - Jason Nunnelley
Jason: it doesn't really matter. I've been on Facebook all morning and they already have a lot of FriendFeed's features. Soon the rest will be moved over too. And the servers won't get turned off anytime soon, based on conversations with FriendFeed and Facebook. So, for now, use it and be happy. Me? I've already been spreading out my social networking time just in case. - Robert Scoble
and before he disappears into a part of the web that I can't find.....how do you say his last name? Boo-Kite? Buck-heat? Really, I don't know and I wanna know. Just so I know, You know? - Morgan
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So frickin' fast. I remember Ben Johnson posting a 9.83 in Seoul, and we knew that was dirty. 9.58! - Louis Gray
The man is a legend, PERIOD! - Ahmed
Even here, it looks like he slows down early. Wow. - Louis Gray
23.4 mph ... close to breaking the speed limit in most metropolitan areas :-) - Allan Besselink
Sad for Tyson Gay ... he ran a personal best and an American Record but looked quite disappointed with the silver. - Kelly Norton
More like insane lightning bolt... - John Wang from iPhone
Agree. Legend. Period. - iconic88
Wow! The world record progression is faster than linear progression: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Nenad Nikolic
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Question: What Will Emerge as the Next Great Social Network? - http://www.steverubel.com/questio...
It won't be a social network - Jesse Stay
Let's hope the next great social network will be an actual NETWORK of sites and services rather than yet another glorified, stand-alone, web-based bulletin board. - Ken Sheppardson
NTTAWWT - Ken Sheppardson
I'm always concerned when the "geek factor" is perceived as being a determining factor of anything. The geek set adopts early (and tends to speak only to themselves), and the folks who grew Facebook and Twitter into massive networks are decidedly non-geeks. (Sorry, geeks. I love you, but...) The next great network will be easy for grandma to use, I predict. It will be pretty. It will... more... - Yvette Ferry
It will be pretty much as cool as 2nd grade class at the playground during recess. - Jimmy Watson
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notice more blogs that connect to Tweets and plug them in under "comments". RT's are not comments. Sorry.
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RT @profblogger: NPR’s iPhone App Blows Other News Apps Out of the Water (http://clusterbuzz.com/npr%e2%...)
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Gary Vaynerchuk and Brian Solis Discuss Putting the Public Back in Public Relations - http://www.briansolis.com/2009...
I've long promised to start shooting and publishing interviews with those whom inspire me. While this isn't the official debut of this imminent series, it - Shelly DeMotte Kramer
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There comes a time when one must step back to see the forest for the trees, to gain perspective and balance, to recharge creativity.
indeed ;-) Alohaaa! - iconic88
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Benchmark took “almost all equity” with FriendFeed sale to Facebook - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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Bret Taylor
FriendFeed has been almost completely blocked in Iran as far as we can tell. We have a large number of very active Iranian users, and we noticed a steep decline in activity yesterday. Graph below.
FriendFeed-Iran-Blocking.png
:( :( - Rachel Lea Fox
Related to the election? - τorƍue
that's so bad... - Eren Emre Kanal
:-( - Kevin Fox
τorƍue: Yes, as far as we know - Bret Taylor
Bret: Is this based on IP numbers located in Iran, or actual activity from those users? If it's IP based, it'd be interesting to see the activity on a user basis and see if they've been able to route around the blocking. - Ken Sheppardson
Could it be related to Twitter being blocked (and therefore the twitter traffic import being blocked)? - Stephan Osmont
): - Jim Norris
Some users are definitely going through proxies. This is total # of unique visits from IPs originating in Iran - Bret Taylor
That tells it's own, sad, story. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
:((( - Oguz Serdar
Wow. - Rochelle
If Twitter were blocked and FriendFeed weren't, I'd expect an uptick in FriendFeed activity, not a 92% drop. - Kevin Fox
I.e. given all the users who've previously accessed the site from an Iran IP number, how many have been active from different numbers in the past 2 days. - Ken Sheppardson
Instead of "liking" this, shouldn't we have an "unlike" button? - Steven Melfi
:( Bret: According to Stephen fry, these are the iran proxies: 218.128.112.18:8080 218.206.94.132:808 218.253.65.99:808 219.50.16.70:8080 . Can you track these IPs? - Roberto Bonini
I knew this day was coming. Too bad. - Robert Scoble
Steven - same feeling here. I always feel weird "liking" bad stories on FF - Mike Bracco
How does traffic from China look? Or North Korea? - τorƍue
do not like :( - Tamara
@τorƍue Twitter has been restored in China - Stephan Osmont
Hey... we saw issues with blogfa.com as well: http://blog.spinn3r.com/2009... - Kevin A. Burton
like for spread but not like for the situation - Imprenditore
I wonder what the international community can do about stuff like this. Eventually the "bad guys" will lose. - Michiel Sikkes
Hopefully, we'll never see a graph like this for Turkey... - Onur Şentüre
Man... :( That's really a corrupt government. Hope it gets better soon. - Peter
That's horrible. - @barisunver #beyn.org
Kheyzaran mentioned over the weekend that both Twitter and FF were blocked for Iran starting I believe on Friday. He is using a proxy when possible to keep us updated - FFing Enigma
Bret, any analysis about how many people unable to access FF directly are still able to access it via proxy? - Daniel Dulitz
:-( - bookmeister
So sad... - Luka
Sigh :( - Havang
I doubt any regular North Koreans have computers τorƍue - Eric - For You Wack MCs!
Daniel: Well, we are still getting a bunch of Farsi comments and posts. They may be Persians from outside Iran or from Iranians using proxies. We don't have a detailed analysis breaking those down at this point. - Bret Taylor
The stigmata of evil. - Tim Tyler
all cominucation devices are blocked .even phone & cell phones ! - MohammadReza
Watching the "guerrilla cyberwarfare" aspect of the elections and reactions has been fascinating. Iran's universities are obviously full of resourceful, passionate geeks. - John Craft
not good in terms of freedom - Sheri Fresonke Harper
this is really bad. i hope there's some resolution to this. the people or iran have shown a lot of strength and courage to protest the illegitimacy of recent events. i don't think this will stop things - Cee Bee
please help us , we are under attack ,change friendfeed logo if you can - فرزاد
@MVB we all are Protests - MohammadReza
That's sad. - EricaJoy
:( Dislike. - Ruchira S. Datta
P.S. Kevin should turn the logo green in support of the Iranian's being disenfranchised. - EricaJoy
:(( - رامین
For those that are in Iran: Have you tried http://fftogo.com as a workaround? - FFing Enigma
I'm completely for having a fair vote, but I'm not sure that I'd want to try and align FriendFeed with a particular candidate, which is what a green logo would imply. - Kevin Fox
Many iranians using proxies to access FF. and therefore their IPs changes to fake IP . - آدمیرال
MohammadReza: Maryam's mom is still able to call her relatives and friends in Tehran, so they are keeping some voice traffic open, if not all. - Robert Scoble
Farshad, I'm trying to post news here: http://friendfeed.com/world-n... - Kol Tregaskes
@Kevin, totally understandable. - EricaJoy from IM
If Iran thinks they have nothing to fear, then why block Friendfeed? - Frode Stenstrøm
Frode: because the government is like China: they believe that by retarding the flow of information they will reduce the threat of protests and governmental overthrow. - Robert Scoble
Very reminiscent of the prelude to the fall of the Shah - Alan Morris
I don't speak Persian, so I don't know all the searches, but there are still (luckily) a lot of Persian users posting: http://friendfeed.com/search.... If you are Persian and looking for updates, try our search engine to find the few users who still have access. - Bret Taylor
Frode: and in Iran's case, they are run by conservative religious authorities and they don't like the fact that they are not in control of information flow like they used to be. They like to think they can still control information sources and, since they can't, they try to block places where their citizens can go to share information. - Robert Scoble
is it a joke? iranian users seems the %90 of friend feed. it could not be real! - Fırat Demirel
Firat: There are no units on the vertical axis of the chart. - Ken Sheppardson
Firat: This is a chart of traffic from Iran, not of FF's total traffic. - Kevin Fox
Firat, i doubt that this graph is a percentage graph... probably more likely that it's measuring hits, sessions, or total data transfered (mb, kb, etc) - Chris Heath
Kevin: what impact did this have on FF's overall traffic? - Robert Scoble
Robert: Iran is the #6 country for FriendFeed in terms of page views per day. - Bret Taylor
something is cooking out there... - mehdi
Thanks all for answers. i told that it could not be real.. :) excuse me, i ve just read Bret's notice and looked at breaking point. i saw what i've missed before.. bad news for ff and iran.. :( - Fırat Demirel
These statistics are incredible, especially the normally heavy useage of FF in Iran. - Curt Mercadante
Bret Taylor, we can tag our pix and vids about iran election by an english keyword such as 'iran' or 'iranelection'. I think it will help to ff non-persian users to find out more about unrests in iran. - آدمیرال
Iran restored cell phone service Sunday that had been down in the capital since Saturday. But Iranians still could not send text messages from their mobile phones, and the government increased its Internet filtering in an apparent attempt to undercut opposition voices. Social networking sites including Facebook and Twitter were also not working. - Üstün Üzüm
Do *not* like. :( - Pete D
:( - Mitch
آقا یکی توضیح بده اینکه من(ما) لایک میزنیم! عملا دیسلایک ه ! :( - younes
Younes says that our likes to this graph mean dislike to tehran's regime censorship - آدمیرال
I can't find any evidence of Twitter being blocked in Iran. Anyone? - Martin Bryant
TechCrunch just picked this up: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Robert Scoble
Thanks for the translation آدمیرال ! - Ross Miller
ممنونم آدمیرال عزیز - younes
خواهش دوست من. - آدمیرال
martin: those words are not mine actually from a news article from washinton post. - Üstün Üzüm
On twitter people are retweeting the IPs and ports of unblocked proxies, can we do something like that here? - Canageek
martin, i'm from iran. twitter is blocked. what evidence you wanna? screenshot!? - آدمیرال
yes Canageek. we use proxies for tweeting - آدمیرال
Authorities blocking the internet are just reinforcing solidarity between people, can't they understand ? - stanjourdan
Stanislas: not to mention they encourage their smartest and richest people to leave (the ones who have technical skills). There's a reason why Silicon Valley has 10,000 or more Iranians living here. Their government sucks and the people are getting tired of it. Of course if their government was great I would never have met my wife (who grew up in Tehran). So, there is good to come out of a crappy government! :-) - Robert Scoble
it has always seemed to me that the iranian user base is ENORMOUS here. wow. unbelievable. - edythe
It is interesting how much civil unrest that is brewing across the globe towards their governments. The knee jerk reactions in attempting to block certain websites shows how much they didn't expect the net to become such a widespread conduit for cutting through the bs and informing those that wish to know. I wish those who take a stand all the best. - alphaxion
:( - Roberto
Another way for those that are in Iran is to access through Netvibes (but I don't know if it works or if it's blocked too), adding Friendfeed, Gmail and so on such as modules - Roberto
Thanks for sharing this, Bret. It's valuable evidence of what's going on, evidence which wouldn't have been available even a few years ago. - Michael Nielsen
Very interesting...so much for democracy and voting rights in Iran... - freedom fighter mom
If anybody in Iran feels up to it, can you temporarily disable your proxy and run a traceroute to friendfeed.com and twitter.com then post the results here? - EricaJoy
Bret and Paul, can you let us know if the traffic comes back, which would tell us they've unblocked FriendFeed? - Robert Scoble
Robert: absolutely, we will let everyone know when it comes back up - Bret Taylor from email
Steven: You Like that it was posted, not the content of the post. - Tanath
Bret, thanks for sharing the info about the dive. Shame, but what could we have expected from the Iranian status quo? - Jon Osterholm
البته یه چیز هم هست اونکه بعد از فیلترینگ همه با آی پی غیر ایرانی می ان فرندفید و برای همنی آمارشون اینجا ثبت نمیشه ... وگرنه فکر نمی کنم از لحاظ تعداد نفراتی که میومدن کم شده باشه ... بلکه هم بیشتر - Hamed Safa
@بی بی, you might try https://friendfeed.com/ - Jim Norris
Damn. - Steven Perez
Good luck to all of you trying to get around the censorship. I hope the big sites are doing what they can to help out. - Eric - For You Wack MCs!
Looking at the potential of this event in the future for numerous causes is mind-boggling. Really amazing. - Charlie Anzman
Come to think of it, does FF have a presence in China? I'd imagine it's blocked there. I've seen Chinese on here, but never sure if that's from China or speakers outside. - anna sauce
Tnx Bret - Conformist
Thnaks :) - Exir
ببین شب انتخاباتی چکار کردیم با این فرفر. wow! - مُـتــَـیـَّم
چه همه لااااااااااااااااایک! - مُـتــَـیـَّم
:(( - AJ Batac
Damn. - Derrick
Expected. - Michael W. May
Yes, Friendfeed is blocked in Iran. Right now the papers and TV channels here are ‎controlled by the government and our access to satellite channels is blocked too. ‎Friendfeed and Twitter are quite vital for us now. Our main source of exchanging ‎information and news is Friendfeed. Via Friendfeed we let everyone know that where ‎people need help and where to go and how to help them and... more... - Selma
Selma: does https://friendfeed.com/ work for you? - Bret Taylor
Nope, they have blocked all https addresses, we have had to sign in to Friendfeed via anti-filters for the past few months. - Selma
Can't we "help" in some way? Providing proxies, I don't know, the kind of stuff pirates do. Pirates, and people trying to make a Revolution happen.... - Zackatoustra
It may not be long before Turkey joins the party. - Sarp
It's very sad to see this happen - Michael Fidler
tnx all of you... - امین
I just spoke with my friend Andres, the main BBC correspondent for the Middle East/Afghanistan, and he mentioned the web is being fire walled in Iran much the same as the the "Great Firewall" during last year's Olympics in China. - sofarsoShawn
The Iranian websites that people used to exchange information about the election protests ‎in Iran are under cyber-attacks by the government forces and from anonymous sources. ‎Many of them are down right now. These Iranian websites were our few last remaining ‎channels to inform people. What can we do about that? Is there anyone out there who can help us with this?‎ - امین
i was 53rd active user in friendfeed until this filtering. now i can open FF with proxies and if i can fine. a Vpn but many Vpn here come from companies that have relations with security services, i thunk they allow us to bypass filternig and then, they will arrest who has wrote against their goals - خیزران
Can't we transfer the data/databases of the sites you, iranian guys, use to any new domain we could buy? I want to help. Not by throwing rocks to "security service" forces, but, at least, by making possible for what YOU have to say to go public, worldwide. - Zackatoustra
so so sorry for iran people... I hope they will win... - Tanaydin Sirin
Some amazing images from Iran - http://ff.im/42pgD - Brent - Yes I am
Does http://fftogo.com work still? - FFing Enigma
Selma: 1- I don't use a proxy but clearing all but one (deleting them all logs me out) instance of each friendfeed.com cookie name and refreshing the page always solves this for me in Firefox. Has never happened on Lunascape or IE. Good luck. - Alexandros Georgiadis
Friendfeedがイランでblockされているというコトらしい。いったいどういう理由でだか分からないけれど……もし、国内のゴタゴタの影響であればいずれtwitterも、ということになりかねないのかも。/でも、fftogoを使えば迂回できるのかな? - Sakurai.Catshop
What about email, amin.m? Are you able to post to FF by emailing share@friendfeed? - FFing Enigma
Very sad. - Parth Awasthi
The reason I ask is because if you can email a post, then try sending it to share@friendfeed and also to YourUserName@friendfeed. Then when someone comments you'll receive an email about it and you can comment back to the thread via email as well. - FFing Enigma
:(( - Nimaa from MojiPage
No wonder why ! - Pelin
+ don't use your ISP's DNS server, verify your Firewall, search for rootkits.. + If you really wanna use Tor, be 'mobile', check the onion's status, don't be too confident, continue to use encrypted protocols & 'mobile' ports. At least, read Tor's docs and articles about Tor & privacy/security.. - Thierry R. Andriamirado
I don't know if these can help but I put them here anyway http://www.noiseriver.com/ http://moopz.com/ - M F
Alexandros: Frienddeck could work for certain parts - posts and queries against user accounts are proxied through the App Engine, searches are direct against Friendfeed so they could probably not work. - Paul Kinlan
Thanks :(( - Mahdi Motamed
:( booooooo - Duncan Rawlinson
:o - FF88
DAMN! - Veeee
whoa, NOT good - Susan Beebe
We wish the people of Iran well in these difficult times - Marc
Not good at all. Best wishes to the Iranian FFers. I hope this whole mess gets cleared up quickly and with as little violence as possible - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
this is terribly wrong - Francisco Tomé Costa
A government that takes away people's Friendfeed will not last long. - Goran Zec
WOW CRAZY - Matt Kaufman
I like that 667 people liked this, that's 667 people hoping it all gets resolved justly and peacefully. - Steve C
now we are 676 people who liked that =) hoping too everthing gets resolved peacefully. - Ibrahim Tarlig
Bret, is there any update on this? Is activity still low? - Kol Tregaskes
Yes, we are still being blocked - Bret Taylor
definitely DON'T LIKE this... >_< ...would love to be able do more than retweeting proxies - Daniele
Best regards from Chile to all iranian people, we know a lot about bad government and human rights. Good luck, strength and courage to all of you. - Roberto Arancibia
:( - Shey
It's to bad there is such attempts to block free flow of information, how long will it be before there is more amazing differences happening? Such limits, hmm. - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
They have to keep the militants in check. Thank goodness for the pipes that were broken. - tony
Digg.com is block in Iran now. - Sahandram
Interesting censorship- same can happen in America - I would like to talk to you abt Friendfeed and bringing over some large groups do you have time? - JanSimpson
I've seen those censorship about FriendFeed (Iran). Do you know some interesting and objective blogposts about it? - Thierry R. Andriamirado from email
Do you have a similar graph as ff's been blocked in China? - K.D.
And China now has a similar blockage. You should also check on it. - Kenyth
Sometimes we forget how easy we have it than other countries. But until people revolt & I mean a HUGE revolution injustices will still go on. - Gabriella Sannino
پرلایک ترین فید فرفره این - رامین
jeddi? - Hamed Safa from IM
che jaleb , oonvaght por comment dartarin feed kodoome? bebinim mishe feed 2khtare mardom e farzad davan davan ro be oon beresoonim? - Hamed Safa from IM
ba mobile am ... to bebin bara manam tarif kon :D - Hamed Safa from IM
is it still filtered? - آرام
یادش بخیر! - مُـتــَـیـَّم
همین باعث شد فرندفید رو بفروشه فیس‌بوک - Makhmal
تاریخ فیلتر فرفر - موزیسین
Jay Berkowitz
@ctiedje At The Sun Sentinel we're getting more tips from Twitter than traditional sources. we check the tips the same as any tip
try "search.twitter.com" then type in "twittertips". For more, type in "iconic88 twittertips" for some insider juice ;-) - iconic88
Tyson Key
Mike Fruchter
6 Lessons From the Best Marketing Campaign Ever - http://rohitbhargava.typepad.com/weblog...
Jeremiah Owyang
Video: JS-Kit announces "death of comments" (link bait title). They promise to aggregate conversations http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Video: JS-Kit announces "death of comments" (link bait title). They promise to aggregate conversations http://bit.ly/TAhSI
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Just signed up for my invite. - Chris Wilson
Yeah - linkbait indeed. Disqus is already doing this with their Social conversations (or whatever it's called), with comments. - Jesse Stay
It's not just linkbait, it's offensive. This kind of stuff should stop now. - Dave Winer
Dave, agreed. I'm less likely to use JS-Kit from this, personally. - Jesse Stay
I'm sure not going to write about it as long as they're doing that. And I would consider trying it out on one of my sites, but not until they upgrade their marketing. The Disqus team is a class act, I have a lot of loyalty to Daniel, and they've never resorted to these kinds of tactics. - Dave Winer
When I went to the MotoGP race at Laguna Seca, as I was the guest of the team that came in second. They were all over the winning team, congratulating them, hugging them, they seemed genuinely happy for them. I told them later that this wasn't the way it was done in my business, and I thought -- wouldn't it be great if it were. - Dave Winer
It used to be this way. I sent flowers to Rob Campbell at Forethought when he got the deal with Microsoft that I wanted. We competed ferociously, but when it was over, I wanted to leave it on a high note. - Dave Winer
I hope the JS-Kit guys read this, and it would be nice to get an email saying they got the message and they're going to stick to telling us what's good about their product, and they will speak kindly of their competition in the future. They can feel however they want, but we're not in the battle with them, and we're not going to sympathize with their war metpahors. - Dave Winer
Dave, I agree - I love Daniel and team. I loved his answer when I asked him where they were at the #crunchup and he said, "working". :-) - Jesse Stay
@Dave - I've been participating in all your threads today - I often do - no different for this one ;) - We think Disqus is an excellent company with a great Commenting product. We sincerely believe, though, that commenting is no longer as relevant as the global set of social gestures created by content. As a result Echo treats them as 1st class citizens and renders them in real time - you will find this is very different from Disqus' excellent comment product - Chris Saad
There's a table of differences between commenting (our old product included) and Echo at the bottom of the echo page. Roll over the rows to get more detail if you are interested. - Chris Saad
Chris, I'm keeping an open mind, in fact you're going to get an invite from badhair.us shortly, but if your product is that good, you don't need such strong hype. We were interested before the "death of comments" stuff. (The fact that Scoble was blown away by your product was enough. You didn't even need to go to the crunchup and I didn't see the demo there. I know Scoble bases his opinion on use, most of the time, so I'll always look at a product he raves about.) - Dave Winer
I understand Dave - the messaging was pretty stark. Erick and Steve wanted us to make the point more clearly (based on their feedback from rehearsals) so we did. But you will notice that on the blog post and the site we declare comments 'Evolved'. In any case I appreciate you having an open mind and look forward to supporting your needs with Echo if you in fact choose to give it a go - Chris Saad
Drop me an email to chris@js-kit.com and I will make sure you get priority support - Chris Saad
I hope Disqus gets its own version of pulling in all conversations made as an offshoot of a blog post into the blog itself. So I don't have to move again. I hate this endless hopping from one blog commenting platform to another. - jan geronimo
Dave, Chris, I'm open to learning from all vendors --link bait titles or not. - Jeremiah Owyang
i like short presentations. it means the software is simple. - Scott Magdalein
Jan, I'm pretty sure Disqus already does that, via the Social Media Reactions - see "Reactions" on this article: http://staynalive.com/article... - Jesse Stay
I balked at the point where, to get an invite, I had to spam all my twitter followers. No thank you. I hate reading canned tweets, and I refuse to send canned tweets. I was really torn whether to use js-kit of disqus for my new site, but now my decision is made :\. - Adam Lasnik
Chris Messina
Gmail Labs offers optional "super-trustworthy" icon to denote "verified" emails. Twitter: take note. http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009... (tip @techmeme)
Thanks for sharing. Just enabled it. - David Damore
Robert Scoble
Microsoft’s new Office 2010 brings Office back from the dead (tons of videos) - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
More news is on Techmeme, so far the details are best reported by Mary Jo Foley: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microso... - Robert Scoble
Robert Scoble
I want JS-Kit's Echo on my blog and http://www.building43.com in the worst way. Yo, @chrissaad can we make it happen on Monday?
Looks like the best commenting around, i hope many bloggers will take it for a spin. - Majento
I was on the fence for a while, but echo has pushed me to test it out. Sorry Backtype, giving the other guy a try :) - Bwana ☠
Echo sounds too unfocused. I still want conversation to center around my blog. Comments aren't dead, IMO, despite what JS-Kit wants you to think. - Jesse Stay
Bwana: No worries—hope you find a comment system you're happy with! - CG
What does JS-Kit have over Disqus or Intense Debate? - Justin Bradshaw
Justin: real time. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I REALLY want this for my game pages. I currently use the static Facebook comments box. Real-time comment updates would create a much more interesting experience. Players could essentially "chat" as they played my games. Here is one of my current sites with the Facebook comments: http://www.farseergames.com/diverga... - Jeff Weber
Thanks for the pointer, Robert! - Richard Walker
Jesse: I see Echo as pulling conversations BACK to my blog. At least that's my thesis after seeing it demoed. I will try it and we'll see. - Robert Scoble
Weblog, shmeblog. I'm fine commenting on your articles through FriendFeed. That's part of the benefit of installing the FF sidebar isn't it? - Mitch
Robert: "I see Echo as pulling conversations BACK to my blog." Can you elaborate this point further? :) - jan geronimo
Jan: yes, a lot of my behavior is to pull people from Twitter to FriendFeed to have real time converstions. Soon, thanks to Echo, I will be able to pull them to my blog instead. That will be a huge shift for me. - Robert Scoble
Thanks, Robert. Huge point for Echo. Just integrated Disqus in my blog. And now I have to lust after another platform? :) Will keep tabs on how well it works for your blog. - jan geronimo
Robert, Disqus already brings those conversations back to your blog, on a much larger platform. Just enter you social network credentials in your blog's profile settings. - Jesse Stay
They've actually had that for months now. :-) - Jesse Stay
Robert: Just curious, what is real time about it? - Daniel Ha
What about SEO? Are the ECHOed comments on your blog seen by search engines? Also, I'm just getting used to the live conversations on FF and like this format very much. - ASKJDOG
Daniel: Real time is all about having conversations like this one.. in real time, rather than posting a comment, then waiting for a reply as with traditional blog commenting. I was asking the same question just a couple of days ago :) - ASKJDOG
The big difference to me, is with real-time: Player 1 can be playing one of my games with the comment window visible off to the side. Player 2, playing my game somewhere else in the world makes a comment about the game. Player 1 sees that comment instantly and can respond if they like. It allows a conversation to be struck on the spot. Would work the same way with blog posts... - Jeff Weber
Jeremiah Owyang
If you're a blogger and leave comments on blogs, you should not use facebook connect, instead leave url to blog- rather than link to fb
Totally agree. - Peter Fletcher
Exactly! Link to your Facebook account from your blog if you would like for people to connect with you there. - Chris Wilson
Didn't know bloggers would do this! FB doesn't easily let you display your social profile on other sites. Your blog does. Give others the freedom to choose where they want to connect with you! - Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
We need to be open to possibilities @jowyang. I would never use FB Connect because my FB profile it for Family and Friends. I still use a blog address when commenting on blogs, however the time is coming where perhaps a Friendfeed profile or some kind of Real Time property might be appropriate if the comment is general. - Deano @ Byron New Media
well my comment url changes with the type of post i am reading. If personal then my FB otherwise if regulat blog then my blog url and if someone looking for something at times i do place the proper url to the actual content as the url. - Anant Shrivastava
and ya one more thing there is a plugin of Facebook called Web Profile do look for it, that actually let you put a lot of your web profiles on the FB page. - Anant Shrivastava
Agree. Does Google Friend Connect work in the same way as Facebook Connect? Didn't try. - Markingegno - Donato
zsafwan 
Lifestreaming iPhone app Zensify leaves beta with new features - http://www.intomobile.com/2009...
Lifestreaming iPhone app Zensify leaves beta with new features
Zensify - it allows users to aggregate, update, search and discover information across multiple social networks and web services. - zsafwan  from Bookmarklet
Jason Pollock
Daily Kos: Former CIGNA executive says Michael Moore was right all along [UPDATE] - http://www.dailykos.com/storyon...
Louis Gray
FriendFeed Plans Features to Stem Conversation Flare-Ups - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Jay Berkowitz
RT (me) Michael Jackson-Beat it performed by Metallica http://www.youtube.com/watch...
RT (me) Michael Jackson-Beat it performed by Metallica http://bit.ly/170UNq
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Jeremiah Owyang
@HP_Scott As brands pollinate web, aggregation is the key. Read my take here: http://www.web-strategist.com/blog... Challenge? Aggregating Authentic Convos
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