When I become king, my first official act will be to ban the use of the terms "12 pm" and "12 am". You will only be allowed to refer to noon, midnight, 1200, or 0000/2400. The punishment will be severe. That is all.
You know, switching to a 24 hr clock like most of the world will make it easier ;)
- Thomas Bøhm
This has always driven the computers at one of the hospitals I trained at insane. It's all computerized order entry, but anything ordered exactly at midnight never got done, so they changed the setting to 11:59pm.
- Victor Ganata
12:30 is fine. It can be either am or pm. 12:00 exactly is the problem child. To be overly granular, 12:00:01 am or pm is fine, too.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
from fftogo
I don't care what you call it, but apparently calling it "12 noon" will drive my husband batshit crazy.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I've never heard of this gripe. Can't see much merit in it. How does this confuse? Do you confuse 1am and 1pm too?
- Matthew DeVries
Isn't it not technically PM until 12:01? That is, 12:00 noon would be 12:00am, but the next minute would be 12:01pm? Kind of like 2000 is the last year of the old millennium, and 2001 is the first year of the new one?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
IIRC, the am/pm for noon and midnight changes in different countries. I believe in Japan, noon is 12am.
- The Letter M
Well the expansion of a.m. is ante meridiem (before midday) and p.m. is post meridiem (after midday), so it is a little odd to consider the time exactly at midday to be post meridiem. The other thing that's odd is that when noon comes around, you increment the hour and change the sign instead of resetting the counter. It would actually make more sense for the hour after 11am to be 12am, and the hour after 11pm to be 12pm. Or eliminate 12 entirely, and consider it 0.
- Victor Ganata
Matthew, it's only confusing when it's exactly 12:00. There is a lot of room for misunderstanding when we're talking about noon and midnight.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Never heard of this confusion, or get how 1am/pm is any different.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, how would you explain where the am/pm goes for midnight/noon to a child? And answer the inevitable "Why?"
- The Letter M
The way it was described to me. By convention. My parents broke me of the idea that rules always made sense very early in life. How do you parent without that?
- Matthew DeVries
Background: I recently overheard an argument between two people about whether noon was 12 am or 12 pm. They were talking about scheduling backups and both were very passionate about it.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
from fftogo
Matthew, rules that don't make sense often lead to confusion. Does this particular rule make sense to a typical child, or is it an exercise in memorization?
- The Letter M
memorization. Kids are good at that, their brains don't have the infield fly rule or Dick Buttkis' jersey number in them yet.
- Matthew DeVries
Sing a song to a kid once, and freak out over how much they remember of it.
- Matthew DeVries
I'm already reading the MLB rule book to my wife's belly, so there likely won't be room for am/pm. But s/he'll be ready for ballgames. If s/he's not up at 1:20am looking for the Cubs game.
- The Letter M
Waitaminit. Jack Bauer is a special case. It's whatever time he says it is. I mean, the dude's been dead, what, 3 times?
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
from fftogo
Thomas, you know that we Americans are silly non-conformists and will never adopt logical solutions such as the 24 hour clock or the metric system. Pshhh
- Ethan
What's even funnier is that noon is a contraction of nona hora, which means 9th hour in Latin.
- Victor Ganata
Yep, but I don't really connect with people there. I just read stuff. If I want to talk about something, I share it here.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Using more and more FriendFeed, Twitter, Facebook and less Google Reader
- Ralph
Clearly my most used online app, so yes. All the other tools revolve around it in my world. My dad read the newspaper every morning, I read Google Reader all day.
- Bwana ☠
Yes, it's still the best way to track blogs that write about stuff I like.
- arjo
YEah. I used to use Feeddemon but I like having my feeds synced over multiple devices with the least amount of hassle. Google Reader works perfectly for that.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
I use it, but I don't use it in a social way.
- Alix Whitmire
Of course! I also use FF a lot, but it didn't actually reduce my activity on Greader
- Stanislas Jourdan
Yes, but not directly, I skim entries via my program ( http://ff.im/38Yl8 ), if I am interested I click. So to FF/twitter/gmail/and other urgent feeds
- Yu-Jie Lin
Yes, since 2006. I used Bloglines and Sage (Firefox add-on) before.
- LouCypher
No. I stopped using it a long time ago when I switched to FeedDemon, then I stopped using that too (keeping up with 200+ feeds was just too much). Now, I use Gmail's Web Clips with 14 feeds (including the feed for popular bookmarks on Delicious). If the item is new and the title is interesting enough, I click. Still, I keep saying to myself: "I should go back to FeedDemon someday."
- Yaser Sulaiman
I use it on a daily basis. It is my primary means of keeping up with all the latest news.
- Bob Blunk
I setup google reader with a few local news links, so if I share something it's sent to friendfeed and then twitter. dont use it alot, forget to. I have FF, I let other people find interesting links for me to read.
- Mike Nencetti
Yep. No other readers sync with the iPhone as well. Sure, there's NetNewsWire, but I don't like it.
- Larry Hudson
Yes, but am really searching for an alternative that allows me to have smarter results... some blogs have posts I am not interested in. Today I just started trying out bytagg.
- Sid Burgess
Most people say RSS is dead because Twitter takes over by being real time. The issue with that is that we ourselves cannot be available real time, all the time. RSS helps you cache that information to make it available when you cannot be in the stream.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
Zee: gloat? With a few dozen comments? Come on, please do be real. I have 89,000 followers on Twitter, 5,000 on facebook, 38,000 on friendfeed. When you get close to those numbers let me know. Then I'll let you gloat.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble How do you mean "what I get close to those numbers?" - can you clarify
- Zee.
Robert: I don't think he wants to gloat about his numbers. It's about the fact that a lot of people still do use Google Reader or other RSS Readers; they just don't socialise with it as much as they do with Twitter or FF.
- Bhavishya Kanjhan
Yes, but I feel I'm wasting to much time with it. Browsing entire RSS feeds is not really targeted and Google Reader doesn't filter.
- Oliver Bouchard
I use it for my feedreading, but not socially.
- Scott Bulloch
Yes I do, keep it opened in a firefox tab almost all day.
- Vineet Bhatnagar
from Nambu
I'm still waiting to hear what Scoble's crap about "89,000 followers on Twitter, 5000 on facebook and 38,000 on Friendfeed" was about.
- Zee.
naa, he'll respond - at least i hope so. Because I'm really hoping i'm wrong about what i think he was implying there.
- Zee.
yes I do = but I am quickly finding FriendFeed and Twitter replacing some of the feeds I used to subscribe to.
- Tony
Yes! I use Google Reader constantly, in my web browser and on my iPhone. I have RSS feeds set up for my common Twitter searches, too. I also use Yahoo Pipes that I've developed over time to have very targeted RSS feeds. But I don't socialize via Reader.
- Kurt Rosenkranz
Yes, I still use Google Reader, voraciously. It has NOTHING to do with comments/followers. Rather, GReader is a tool for being better informed. Sometimes I use my GReader learnings in the real world - in conversation - where we don't formally have followers and such.
- Mike Reynolds
R.Scoble: What do follower numbers have to say in this matter, or at all ? I thought you had a statement about quantity vs quality some time ago as well ?
- Thomas Bøhm
I use NewsFire, and occasionally Resc Newws! on my PalmOS phone. I guess I haven't joined the "everything's in the cloud" revolution yet.
- Joshua Lee
<whisper> I've never used it. </whisper>
- Derrick
Thomas: follower users tell you how many people use a service and map pretty closely how many people are using a service, if you can see them in aggregate.
- Robert Scoble
Zee: it's not what 80+ people on friendfeed say. It's how many people ACTUALLY use these services. Google Reader just doesn't have the numbers. My follower numbers are a very accurate indicator of that.
- Robert Scoble
R. Scoble: people follow more people on Twitter than on Facebook because Facebook means you share a lot of information, so I'm not sure if those numbers mean much in the way of that.
- Joshua Lee
@Scoble But how do you know how many people use Google Reader?
- Zee.
I don't use google reader, and I use twitter, facebook, and a bit of friendfeed. ;-)
- Joshua Lee
But Robert, I use GReader EVERY DAY, but I'm not really socially connected with anyone on it. GReader's main function can be used without any social integration at all - so how many people follow you or vice versa isn't really relevant. Even leaving aside the issue of whether number of followers is relevant at all - it certainly isn't relevant when the core function of a service isn't connecting with other people, but consuming content.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Yes: it is a convenient tracking system and I like the email alerts
- Anita Hunt
Yes. It's an essential daily tool for must-read feeds, as well as for discovery. Social media does not give me the same content as my must-read feeds.
- LogEx
Sometimes feeds generate data for social media.... I share a lot of links via email and occasionally facebook or twitter.
- Joshua Lee
No. Currently it does not cater for my feed reader needs.
- Vidar Andersen
I used to use a similar online newsreader, bloglines I think it is called, but after a while I found having to check a website unweildy - the whole point to RSS is to not have to play with your browser to read information.
- Joshua Lee
If you want to follow blogs directly on their site, at least for Blogger, you pretty much have to do use Google Reader. I know I've had that feedback from my followers.
- Fossil Huntress
Yeah, blogger is a bit of a closed ecosystem. Very ungooglelike.
- Joshua Lee
/me uses his best Ronald Reagan impression "Mr. Brin - tear down this wall"
- Joshua Lee
every day for real work needs. for all the rest, FF, Twitter and Facebook
- Giovanni De Stefano
Yes. Daily. But I overlay it with Feedly - www.feedly.com - which makes it rather prettier.
- Stephen Collins
Clearly Scoble doesn't really want to get too involved with this discussion. Which is disappointing considering he was the motivation for the post in the first place.
- Zee.
Google will eventually add real-time and social networking stuff to Google Reader, and especially with algorithms to suggest the best posts to read, then all will use that most
- Charbax
I use it. But I don't share anything with it. I just use it to keep on top of a few news sites and forums.
- Jan Ole Peek
no, but I'm ashamed to admit it. I used to use bloglines.
- Laura Norvig
I live in Google Reader. It's my life line for discovery, digestion and distribution.
- Mike Fruchter
I do. I could live without FF, Twitter et al but Google Reader is a time/life saver.
- Murray Barton
Not much anymore. I push most of my rss feeds through FF. That way I still get RSS goodness without constantly fighting an unread count.
- Tech Introvert
well clearly according to Scoble, all of you guys saying that you use it are not part of the majority...and Google Reader is actually a very quiet place
- Zee.
Went from Google Reader to NetNewsWire simply because of the syncing ability between the Mac client and the iPhone app.
- Mike Bracco
Zee: sorry, I had to drive Patrick home. There are a variety of ways to see how popular Google Reader is. Look at Quantcast. Alexa. Compete. Compare referee logs with others, etc. I have kept on top of the usage numbers and Google Reader isn't keeping up with growth in other agregator types like Facebook and friendfeed andthe people I compare numbers with see a lot more traffic from...
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- Robert Scoble
@Scoble thanks for the clearer and less agro response. I'm really going to dig in and do some research into it because although I definitely believe that Facebook & Co. are growing much faster...as a news source/tool - i still believe it's number 1 and has huge potential for further growth
- Zee.
i do and love its integration into everything
- Zach Scott
I use it a lot. Get and collect most of my "news" there.
- kilbuda
Yes. I've been using it less because of FriendFeed and Reader's content/ attention data lock-in. If Reader: 1) allowed us access to our attention stats, labels etc. through interactive UI or flat file export (Diigo), I'd use it more. 2) added a simple WYSIWYG editor to the comments feature to improve it as a blogging platform, I'd use it more. 3) allowed for Gtalk chat's around articles with chats that could be appended to the articles (think Gmail with appended Gtalk chats), that would be useful as well.
- Jack Frizzell
Yes. Recently I love to use GReader via feedly.com
- yezi
Yes, though a lot less since Friendfeed came along
- jcunwired
I stopped a few months ago...but now I'm back to using Feedly - love the magazine layout, just a cleaner better way to read (for me that is ;)
- Aline Ohannessian
extended firefox with feedly this evening -- thank you all for that recommendation, gReader looks so much better, especially where the folders can be customized with different views: magazine stylesheet enhances the readability of content. [I'm looking into the exposure of private feeds when feedly services are used. Comments? It was surprising how they got to my subscriptions without my password.]
- Adriano
Adriano: Feedly is well done, isn't it? It's the only thing these days keeping me from abandoning FF completely for Chrome.
- Christopher A Carr
[off-topic @cacarr : ditto, cf. extensions like Zotero, It's All Text (w/ vim ;-), or even Read It Later]
- Adriano
Yes I do, and I'm also pretty impressed with feedly/firefox, but I use that in addition to slogging through my greader feeds. I'm in the process of re-organizing my feeds so I can "mark all as read" without concern I'm missing something I need to see. "a1_events a2_casts b1_techblogs x9_other" etc.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
& my shared items get routed to Friendfeed+Facebook & from FF to Twitter... :)
- Roshan Ramachandran
I do use Google Reader but just to read news feeds not sharing or whatever. The number of updates is getting a bit unmanageable now and I end up bulk-marking a lot as read, but it's good to skim through the headlines or less active feeds.
- By_tor
Yes, but must admit my usage of it has dropped off a cliff since I started using Twitter more (mainly because it was easier to digest content on a mobile), but think the noise ratio is greater on Twitter, so may go back to Reader when I get the next iPhone.
- Paul M Evans
I experience the entire internet through google reader - even twitter and friendfeed are read in google reader.
- Ian Tindale
If I share stuff in Feedly it ends up in FriendFeed and Twitter. Someone has to put the good stuff up there to retweet...
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Absolutely! Google Reader is still the first webpage i hit in the morning to read my "a-list" tagged feeds.
- Niklas Sjostrom
yes i do but since friendfeed came on the scene it gets less and less
- (jeff)isageek
yes but mostly through Feedly, and i do use Friendfeed to replace some stuff too.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Yes.. I would never socialize on it as well, the tool is of course, fantastic..
- Daniel Tal
Yes. I hate to admit it but Google did a great job with Reader. At first I didn't share anything but after some tweaking I got addicted to it. The gadget is great too (when it refreshes of course)
- Carlos Lorenzo
Bloglines seems to be less reliable than Google Reader, but I stick with it because it's much easier to use. Complete navigation with single key strokes. Google Reader forces me to use the mouse. Too fussy. I'd prefer a desktop client, but haven't found one that is as good as Bloglines (on Linux).
- Peter
Yes. I have hundreds of RSS feeds that I read via Reader. I haven't found a better Web-based replacement. I do not use Reader for it's social networking aspects though.
- Glenn J. Ward
It's the only RSS reader I use. I've tried several RSS apps on my phone and a couple on my computer and none are anywhere near as good as the web based Google Reader, either on my phone or on the computer. So I just stick with it.
- Nathan Mylott
Zee - thanks for the link - I followed it and found 'helveitreader' which is nicer still. However, I have issues with the interaction as well as the style. (http://ff.im/3d9Np [http://ff.im/3d9Np] is real)
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Yes. only way to keep track of 250blogs, and its the only remotely Social media style site that isn't blocked by my work IT department. I share stuff not in Greader but on here more so.
- Yant
I use reader, but keep looking for ways to cut myself off from it. I hate feeling that I have to read everything.
- Daniel Zarick
yes. (btw @robin: it's fixed i think. can you please try again?)
- Yusuf Güzel
Yes, but not actively. I use it to aggregate my favorite newsfeeds into one giant RSS feed, which I feed into Wizz RSS reader (Firefox plugin). Wizz automatically checks for updates at specified intervals, so I stay on top of the latest news from all services. I also use it to search mp3/filesharing RSS feeds that I subscribe to, and to bookmark useful posts.
- LANjackal
Used to use it all the time, but I still check on my feeds from time to time through it.
- i80and
I used to use bloglines, but once google added the ability to search only my feeds, they had me hooked.
- Davis Freeberg
Yes, its my central information repository.Where i aggregate all interesting RSS ( from almost 150 different sources) so i never miss a beat. There are certain desktop apps which are better then Google Reader but whats great about it is its online repository which works for every device i use to access it. Though i clearly think there is a hell lot of improvement needed. In its current avatar it can be pretty unmanagable specially if you read a lot and you can't be online 24*7.
- Abhishek
I Really Hate Getting Screwed on iPhone Apps. @Mobiata sells the $4.99 FlightTrack through ad placement in the less than elegant UI of FlightStats on the iPhone. Then, once you open the App it pitches FlightTrack Pro for $9.99. I understand the need for both but why not sell me the best from the start. When contacted, Mobiata says, "Ask Apple for a refund, maybe they'll give you one. We Can't." How about we Twitter this, "Why does @Mobiata bait me with FlightTrack for $4.99 if they want to pitch me on FlightTrackPro for $9.99? Now I'll buy neither!" - Anyone care to join me?
- Christopher Harley
"It was the end of this June when amateur photographer Sandra Critelli, who was looking for whale sharks, found herself in the right place at the right time to experienced nature at its best. Her boat was surrounded by thousands of rays swimming together like autumn leaves floating in a sunlit pond... gently moved by the wind. The images speak for themselves. The spectacular scene was captured as the magnificent creatures made one of their biannual mass migrations to more agreeable waters as they follow the clockwise current from Mexico's Yucatan peninsula to western Florida in schools of as many as 10,000."
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
May thy knife chip and shatter! (Dune quotes, they never get old)
- Mike Nayyar
It is by will alone you set your mind in motion (if we're going to start quoting Dune...)
- Ari Braginsky
"I must rule with eye and claw as the hawk among lesser birds." (I can't resist either)
- Fee501st
"Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration."
- Veronica
All of this Dune talk is making me want to go home and read.
- joey
damn it...i must now go and get a book that i had no intent of reading just to get into the convo...be back in a few weeks....
- Giancarlo Caparo
gah, I have to watch the Dune all over again! this totally conflicts with the battlestar galactica marathon I'm having! :(
- Rudolf Olah
from twhirl
"I have a girlfriend, and she is so blue." - Eiffel 65
- Jason Wong
"You have met the Atreides gom jabbar, Grandfather."
- Steven Perez
Damn the local bookstores for not having God Emperor of Dune in stock. I'm buying each book in order and reading them as same.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Now I want to whisper to myself the rest of the day
- Fleagle
Tell me of your homeworld, Veronica. btw, I love that you love Dune. *high five*
- Josh Haley
i do the same things to my pics lol. Awesome!
- Shawn Miller
Children of Dune - This was Muad'Dib's achievement: He saw the subliminal reservoir of each individual as an unconscious bank of memories going back to the primal cell of our common genesis.
- shayne catrett
Other countries have managed to do better bandwidth over copper than the US companies... Yes, fiber-to-the-house is the ultimate, but still. (Cringely has gone on about this at length: http://www.pbs.org/cringel... )
- Andrew C
high speed wireless anywhere I happen to be standing would be the ultimate. :D
- Tony C
Comparing to other countries, picking apart and discussing what is technically wrong is not going to fix anything. Andrew, I read the article and the answer is so simple: "It is an ugly story of greed and poor regulation that you can read in excruciating detail in a 406-page e-book that is among this week's links." It's the epitome of our country, our culture, and the public's desires for instant gratification. Until we fix the bigger problem, all of these little problems will keep springing up.
- Mona Nomura
How do you imagine things get fixed without discussion of the problems? And it's not about "desires for instant gratification". It's about regulatory capture. The telcos and cable cos got the FCC to lay off their little monopolies, and in return sat around and didn't bother to invest in upgrading their infrastructure.
- Andrew C
Look at the bigger picture. What is the root of this problem? How did we get to this? The closest way I can articulate this, is patches - as in Windows. Even if specific problems are fixed, new ones will spring up. It's a waste of time, energy, and money. Again, quick fixes are only temporary solutions. So the real question is: what is the root.
- Mona Nomura
There's a bigger root than regulatory capture? Sure, tell me what it is.
- Andrew C
It seems to all be about short term profit and not actually investing to fix problems in infrastructure. People can argue it is gov. sponsored monopoly and whatever they want but we have what we have right now. A great example of what is wrong is this: http://www.dailytech.com/Time+Wa...
- Dean Clark
Also, you can't even teach a starving person to fish until he's at least fed for the day. Sometimes patches have to be made even if they're not the ultimate fix.
- Andrew C
LOLOL Ok Andrew. You are right and I am wrong. Dean - excellent link. Thank you.
- Mona Nomura
"You are right and I am wrong." I'm not saying that yet, just thinking it real loud. But I still don't get what you think is the larger problem or the real root cause.
- Andrew C
Have some sympathy for us poor ADSL users down under in Australia. Market dominated by one massive company (Telstra), over priced + under speed = ripped off.
- David Eedle
"A bacon sandwich really does cure a hangover - by boosting the level of amines which clear the head, scientists have found. Researchers claim food also speeds up the metabolism helping the body get rid of the booze more quickly. Elin Roberts, of Newcastle University's Centre for Life said: "Food doesn't soak up the alcohol but it does increase your metabolism helping you deal with the after-effects of over indulgence. So food will often help you feel better. "Bread is high in carbohydrates and bacon is full of protein, which breaks down into amino acids. Your body needs these amino acids, so eating them will make you feel good." Ms Roberts told The Mirror: "Bingeing on alcohol depletes neurotransmitters too, but bacon contains a high level of aminos which tops these up, giving you a clearer head." "
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Google's big surprise: each server has its own 12-volt battery to supply power if there's a problem with the main source of electricity. The company also revealed for the first time that since 2005, its data centers have been composed of standard shipping containers--each with 1,160 servers and a power consumption that can reach 250 kilowatts. [...] It may sound geeky, but a number of attendees--the kind of folks who run data centers packed with thousands of servers for a living--were surprised not only by Google's built-in battery approach, but by the fact that the company has kept it secret for years."
- Simon
from Bookmarklet
Hmm, I was in a Google data center two years ago (not one of their big ones) and it didn't have individual power supplies and didn't have machines in shipping containers. Seems to me that the shipping container would impede heat transfer and would add unnecessary expense. I'm sure they dont use them everywhere.
- Robert Scoble
Has CNet been "Scobled"? Site's pretty much toast.
- Kenton
That's pretty darn cool. Hope it's not an April fools joke.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: I wonder. The servers I saw inside Google had Seagate drives. These are Hitachis. But I know that Google refreshes all its machines quite often. This looks real and makes sense.
- Robert Scoble
Paul: I know Sun was doing the shipping container thing, but that only makes sense when you need one small data center on premises, or something like that. Building a whole warehouse/data center like that doesn't make any sense.
- Robert Scoble
Plus I know they don't just use one brand of drives.
- Alex Scoble
Google has lots of data centers all over the place, though, and I could see Google using a shipping container in some weird location. Just not in its big datacenter up in Oregon.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, MSFT has data centers that are silos for containers. Makes a lot of sense if you think of having to swap in and out huge numbers of machines every 18-24 months.
- Aaron deMello
Aaron: wild. I'd love to visit one of those huge data centers and see how they do airflow management.
- Robert Scoble
By the way, CNET is down right now (all of CNET, not just the one this article points to).
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, I wonder if it's more efficient in the long run to have separate air and power handling for each container. Probably makes it a lot quicker to build up large server farms. Just connect the modules and download the software.
- Alex Scoble
The shipping container thing could make sense if they were stuffed into a shelving system - open the one end to allow for cooling, plug the whole box full of boxes in, and go. There was one company that was doing prefab hotels in this kind of fashion. build shell, and stuff pre-fab rooms in the slots. Do the datacenter the same way.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yeah, CNET is having problems but it seems to be intermittent.
- Alex Scoble
The most interesting thing to me is the shipping container concept. That's the future model of efficiency. Portable data centers that you can drop anywhere you need 'em.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Robert, each of the large vendors has their own solution to airflow management. Take a look at what Rackable and Verari are doing, quite interesting. Verari's are actually portable and designed to work outdoors.
- Aaron deMello
With these sorts of cooling requirements you'd think they'd bury the shipping containers 20 feet underground or in old coal mines or something.
- Andrew Leyden
The one thing I can tell you is that no Google employee will go near commenting on something like this. It is made *very* clear that anything touching datacenters is super-uber confidential.
- Joe Beda ()
I think it's a very smart design on Google's part. Years ago, when I worked in the Sprint's Central Offices the telecom battery backups were hideously large and only used when the diesel generators failed. Matter of fact, I think many of those beer keg size batteries were decades old.
- Donna Payne
This "secret server" was revealed in 2006 (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive...). I personally looked at the power cable coming out the back of the power supply, being routed back *in* the case, *under* the mobo and out through the front, and had a Luke Skywalker reaction: "What a piece of junk!" Which I suppose is the cue for Han Solo to walk out of the...
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- Karim
my favorite quote from that 2006 article: " he said that in his first week working [at Google] they flew anyone who wanted to go, to denver to go skiing.... during the work week too ahaha" soooo it's like "super-efficient data centers, scrimping and saving every penny OMG DID SOMEONE SAY SKIING? FIRE UP THE PARTY PLANE!!!" :-D
- Karim
Ok, so how many of you are now trying to build one of these at home? That would be a good MAKE episode.
- Andrew Leyden
I bet all those $15 batteries would be a maintenance nightmare in a typical datacenter.
- Gabe
The article has been updated with additional photos and details: "Google's PUE [Power Usage Effectiveness] scores are enviably low, but the company is working to lower them further. [...] "[From] early on, there was an emphasis on the dollar per (search) query," Hoelzle said. "We were forced to focus. Revenue per query is very low.""
- Simon
Wow, he had the whole series in his head that early. Wow. What's he up to now?
- Ingo
He wrote episodes of Jericho (on Showtime, I think), wrote some comics, some awful B5 direct-to-video movies, and recently write the movie "The Changling". The wikipedia entry about the film is interesting (search for "Straczynski went through the script with" on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... )
- Tom Limoncelli
"Beyond scanning a barcode and finding you the best deal either online or in nearby brick-and-mortar stores, ShopSavvy can now tie into major retailers' inventory systems to see if things are actually in stock."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
This is a big rollout with a bunch of apps in release in the next few months. Love that this is available!
- Dana D
This kind of openness is why Android will eventually win if Apple doesn't do the same. The ShopSavvy developers would love to port this, but just don't have the real-time camera access. I'm considering moving when my AT&T contract expires.
- Ingo
Awesome, because it's most likely true. And Anthony yes, people don't like it when you point this out to them, especially those who abuse their credit cards just to keep up appearances.
- Admiral Anika
I wonder what that value would be when you include their mortgage. As, technically you don't own your house until you have paid it off.
- alphaxion
Thanks to Mint.com, I can better manage my net worth but truth be told, I probably look worse than many of the characters listed. Just add them all together.
- Damond Nollan
I just learned a few months back that in the Bible, all debts were forgiven every 7 years. I wonder what it would be like today if we had to live in an economy where everything reset every 7 years? How would this change our financial outlook?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
This assumes that none of these people have any assets.
- Amit Morson
Ken, one could argue that the 7 years bit still holds true in current society, as negative credit report items other than bankruptcy are supposed to be dropped from your report after 7 years.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
It would bankrupt a lot of money lenders.
- Richard A.
...and "bad debts" in most states can't legally be collected after 7 years or so.
- Jared B. Luther