"Starting today, people who visit your profile will see it in the theme you've chosen... We've [also] added an option that lets you create a custom theme by uploading a background image and choosing a few colors."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Haha, cool. Thanks for the answer Bret :) BTW Congrats on the acquisition earlier this week. Fantastic news for a great team and great product :)
- Sam Houston
Duck hunt is awesome! Tell Kevin to go sit in the corner for a while. :-)
- Robert Scoble
But what if I don't want to see other people's themes? There's a reason I avoid doing that on Twitter. Can we make our theme the default at all times?
- Admiral Anika
ah, I figured as much there would be a setting, thanks Kevin! :P
- Tim Hoeck
Thank you, LE. It wouldn't have killed me to check that first, but I'm super tired.
- Admiral Anika
Robert: If you change your theme's background color to black (even though it won't display because of hte tiling) the links will turn white.
- Kevin Fox
Robert, that's too much green monster for me. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
to your guys' credit you make it pretty hard to make this as hideous as you can make Gmail
- MG Siegler
@ Chris ..well, how about to make this personal themes showing through an option? /quick button, no need to go to settings - that'd be too far :] .. option for viewer, not for author
- Petr Buben
Ok so I'm shooting ducks here. is that part of the custom pages open to all?
- BairdWilliamson
I'm sorry, but this is the lamest thing FF has done (besides sell to Facebook, perhaps). This should not be default, especially when there's a theme that sends a duck flying across pages distracting you from reading them (it's like 1997 all over again). The only upside is that you can turn it off. It's a neat gimmick the first time, but after that it's just lame and becomes a...
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- Tanath
I'm sorry, Tanath, but I 100.000% disagree with you. Don't like it? Turn it off. Me? I love it.
- Stephen Mack
Already have - but it shouldn't be default behaviour.
- Tanath
Why not? I bet more people love it than hate it.
- Stephen Mack
Look, I'm excited that FF is still being worked on too, but this is arguably a step in the wrong direction. There's reasons why MySpace is going down the toilet, and different themes on every page is one of them. I'm inclined to take that bet, just not at this early point because it's mostly die-hard FF addicts that even know of the feature's existence.
- Tanath
As long you guys don't f*** with it, I can't see a problem. Why should FF staff avoid a feature only fearing its possible misuse? I'd rather see an option inside FF to explicitly hide user themes, if they get disturbing.
- David Schmidt
On or off, I can't see any themes on friendfeed except what I have in my browser's usercontent.css file. It would have been nice to include an "advanced user" feature that could have allowed us to enter in our own custom CSS for designing our own theme, sort of like how LiveJournal allows. That would have not only allowed customizing on friendfeed, it would also fix the problem with...
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- April Russo (app103)
David: you can hide other people's themes in your settings (top right of the page)
- Bret Taylor
Comparisons to MySpace seem off, since custom themes involve only four possibilities (background image, background color, bar color and box color) -- no widgets, no custom HTML, etc. And first and foremost, they can be switched off. How many times do you visit someone else's page on FF anyway? Most of the time is in your home feed or different lists. I just don't get the negativity, when it's a fun and optional feature that you can opt out from ever seeing again in about two seconds.
- Stephen Mack
I don't know if I consider customizing a few basic settings is really a "Theme".
- Steve de Mena
The correct analogy is to twitter.com user pages, right?
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, that was our thinking internally, though we also give a bit more control with the checkboxes.
- Kevin Fox
Forcing themes on others is bad. This needs an opt out. Glad I use custom CSS.
- Michael W. May
Michael: It DOES have an opt out. If you don't like it please opt out! Click Settings in upper right, you'll see two prominent check boxes regarding theme display.
- Stephen Mack
Kevin: Thanks! You're right, you did twitter one better by letting people opt out of seeing customized themes entirely.
- Stephen Mack
Michael, just uncheck the "See other people's themes" checkbox under settings and you won't see anyone else's theme.
- Dan Hsiao
Stephen's right. Read Bret's comment further up: "[Y]ou can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox" - Bret Taylor
- Micah Wittman
i really like this.really really :-)
- dwightboozer
If this is any indication of what is to come, congrats :) Absolutely gorgeous!
- mySingapore
Thanks to the FF staff, this has been a long awaited request =) Ya'll rock!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
What's the next? I guess "FF background creator tools" will come out nowadays. :)
- Oğuz Serdar
To begin with, is "Themes" really a necessary feature? Still, great to see the new features coming. =)
- Winston Teo
Winston: yes. I've been waiting for this for a long time. It lets me put some personality onto my home page and that is, believe it or not, important. Very important for brands, too, if this is going to become a business.
- Robert Scoble
@All for design: Nice theme. Only the blue of the logo sticks out like a sore thumb.
- Peter
Can you guys stop adding awesome new features, please? Otherwise, no-one else will have a chance to catch up and it'll be an even greater disappointment when it goes. ;)
- James Myatt
Hurrah! I just themed my page along the lines of Twitter and my web page [ http://www.achean.com - shameless plug, but I need the hits! ]
- achean
I changed my background, but how do I let others see? when I click Bret's page, I still see my own background...I assume this is similar to twitter's custom theme where every user has a different background when their link is clicked. (I'm on friendfeed.com/bret, but still seeing my own background). -edit-Nvm...I guess I have to log out to see it...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@Kevin, thanks for removing the borders <3. @Peter he probably doesn't have a theme set for his own profile...
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
issue uploading background. hangs on firefox & safari. tile image checkbox is greyed out.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
how can i change the font color of "my name"?
- Bahriye
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Oh dear. And now I'm thinking "Command line Friendfeed UI - I can do that - that would be do-able" ;-) Nice work peeps, especially the subscriber list info! :-)
- Andy Bold
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
Agreed, and I love this point: 'We can endlessly argue about which style of parenthesis is the right one, but what's more important is that you remain consistent throughout your project." -- the consistency is definitely the key.
- Ken Kennedy
"a single file can look like VML to something that works with VML (IE) and look like SVG to something that works with SVG (Firefox et al). In the general case, I call this pattern "Chameleon File" and the particular kind of chameleon described here I call a "Vector Graphics Chameleon File".
- Dion Almaer
"The jQuery OpenID Plugin is a free plugin to add easy login support for the most popular OpenID RP's such as Google, Yahoo, AOL, and more."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
Nice. I'll have to see if I can figure out how to employ this in WordPress. It doesn't appear to be too complicated (I am not a programmer, just a tweaker).
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
"At the SVG Open 2009 Conference you will have the opportunity to learn to use it to create effective and compelling web content, learn techniques for developing SVG software solutions, and see the latest developments from the W3C. You will meet the creators of SVG applications in person, the authors of the SVG specifications, and you will have the opportunity to provide your own input for future development."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
Google should do a universal one-box for real-time web information (Twitter, FriendFeed etc) somewhat similar to how they mix news and videos results into standard web-results
So for example if I typed in a something that is currently in the news - e.g. Caroline - in addition to normal search results, I could see a section that showed tweets and conversations on FF.
- Bindu Reddy
I wonder if you can use “Google Subscribed Links” for this.
- Amit Patel
So I don't think that would work well. I don't want to see real-time web results for all my queries. Only the ones that have some recent/relevant activity. Should be relatively easy for someone in search quality to figure out which queries to show it on.
- Bindu Reddy
@Bindu, I believe Subscribed Links works in either of two modes: one, by having the user supply keywords that trigger it, or two, by having the search provider itself offer a list of keywords via a feed. So Twitter could provide a list of top terms.
- DeWitt Clinton
"Real-time information" really needs to stabilize before this hits search. When I can effortlessly, efficiently, and cleanly move my updates around the web from twitter to friendfeed to facebook to <random site>, I think that's when we've "arrived" and things are ready for primetime. (Just my personal opinion.)
- Jonathan Terleski
Yes, Twitter could provide the top terms... I suspect Google could do it much better than Twitter, esp because Google can look at other data sources like news etc to figure out relevance. Also if Twitter provided the top terms, the feature would really have to be subscription/Twitter only. Most Google users don't subscribe.
- Bindu Reddy
Twitter (the former Summize team) is actually pretty good at search and measuring trends. For example, here's a bootleg feed of their trending topics: http://www.dapper.net/service...
- DeWitt Clinton
OK, even if Twitter were to be good at supplying terms. I think something that is little more universal - i.e. not just Twitter. Maybe Twitter, FB status feeds and FF items ranked based on popularity and recency maybe good
- Bindu Reddy
Also, "the realtime web" is much bigger than microblogging. There's lots of stuff happening out on the web all the time, and Google does pick that up pretty well. I'd redefine "realtime web" to be "real world news hitting the web asap," which is actually considerably smaller than the former (I'd imagine..).
- Jonathan Terleski
Sorry, final comment. The "realtime web" that I care about is the intersection of: Stuff Happening Right Now, Stuff I care about, and Stuff I haven't heard yet. Search engines generally bat 2 out of 3 on those..
- Jonathan Terleski
Okay, did it. I created a very rough and dirty implementation of twitter trending topics inside Google Search results. To use it, visit this page: http://www.google.com/coop.... Click "Subscribe". Now do a normal Google search for one of the trending topic terms, such as [iPhone] or [Dalai Lama] (at the time of this writing).
- DeWitt Clinton
Right now I'm not saving old trending topics (though I could, and should). To see what topics will trigger at any given moment you can look at search.twitter.com or look here: http://json-indent.appspot.com/indent...
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt - really cool that you managed to hack this up so quickly... Just tried it and also took a look at the trending topics list. There seem to be only 10 of them at any time.. Is that all Twiiter will provide at any one time. Again very impressive :)
- Bindu Reddy
Thank you, but really thank Twitter/Summize for their search api, the usual amazing Google search team for providing subscribed links, and the App Engine team for saving me the trouble of setting a server up myself. : )
- DeWitt Clinton
Yes, Twitter is only providing the last ten. Tomorrow I'll change the backend to save the last 100 or so.
- DeWitt Clinton
One incident in the recent past where for the first time in many years Google failed me was when eNom had the DDOS attack. I tried to use Google (search, blog search, and also in a bunch of bulletin boards) to get more info, but the only place where I finally got what I needed was Twitter search. I am not sure that it had enough tweets to have made it to the summize trending terms, but that sort of event would be a good use case for Google to improve on.
- Arvind Sundararajan
Playing around with Twitter a lot more today, after the NY times article. Am pretty impressed by how mainstream it has become . Some sent this to me. A grease money script to do real time search integration with Google - http://www.facesaerch.com/blog...
- Bindu Reddy
Like this? Here's an add-on I have on my browser:http://flickr.com/photos.... I get videos, Twitter results (they're at the bottom, I don't think you can see them in the photo), but at the top you can see how I can get results from other social media sites too.
- Admiral Anika
neat.. do you use it often? Does it slow your searches down?
- Bindu Reddy
Yeah, I use it all the time, no noticeable lag on my searches. I did learn something new about it. It's tied to only one Gmail account it seems. I was initially in a biz account and it wasn't there. Switched to another Gmail account and it popped up. Not really smart thinking on the developer's part.
- Admiral Anika
Oh here is the add-on: http://www.webmynd.com/html... I don't usually have it on to stalk me, so I couldn't figure out which add-on it was. But it has been very useful in finding tweets. You can choose what services are searched in the sidebar and adjust their order.
- Admiral Anika
My dreamhost-hosted wordpress blog was infected with the internal_links_cache version of this bug (extra stuff in my db that caused wordpress to add spam links to my footer in a way that took quite a bit of digging to figure out and fix). Quite insidious, if clever in its own way. Thanks to DeWitt for noticing that my blog had these problems (it was mysteriously no longer showing up on Google searches as a result).
- Joseph Smarr