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Amazon.com: The 99 Most Essential Beethoven Masterpieces: MP3 Downloads: Various Artists - http://www.amazon.com/gp...
Penguin, Anirudh S, TVTechGrl and 20 other people liked this
File this under: you gotta be kiddin' me! Amazon's MP3 store is selling this for $1.99 today. I figured there was no way it was 99 actual tracks (or they'd all be like 7 seconds long), but I was wrong. 99 tracks of classical for two bucks. Roll over Beethoven!
- Kevin C. Tofel
from Bookmarklet
has Amzon opened thier Uk MP3 store yet? Cause i'd love to have that.
- Roberto Bonini
You can also get it in the Amazon UK MP3 store, although it is £5.99 over here, still a good deal.
- Mike Hellers
Bit steep, maybe next month (in the Uk store, I mean). Thanks for pointing this out Kevin
- Roberto Bonini
This is £5.99 in the UK store, which is still pretty cheap. It must cost more to get it through the tube across the Atlantic. I just ordered a copy of "The rest is noise" by Alex Ross (http://www.therestisnoise.com/). I'm planning to learn a lot more about classical music this year.
- David Owens
wow Happy Tuesday present! thanks!
- idnan
This is a great find thank you.
- Sloan Bowman
Great find
- Warner Crocker
Beethoven is one of my Heros. The Straight Dope: Was Ludwig van Beethoven of African ancestry?
- bcultral
this is a great fine. is it just me or does the windows iTunes app grind your computer to a halt?
- Gabby
These are all exerpts, but I am going to gladly play thorugh them and add them to my big random mix in Windows Media Player.
- Dennis E. Hamilton
from twhirl
This will go nicely with the 'Complete Works of Shakespeare' I got from wal-mart with the "Only 1.99" sticker on the cover.
- Robin Barooah
this is the top download on Amazon right now
- lisa.ong
Amazon is doing it again!! 99 Perfectly Relaxing Songs - On March 24, for ONE WEEK ONLY, Jade Music will make 99 Jade Music songs & chants available for 99 cents on amazon.com!!! Jade Music is choosing 99 of their most relaxing songs, ranging from Gregorian and various chants from around the world, to classical pieces by world famous composers.
- brianstreet54
+1 Kunal. Agree with you completely. There's a vast untapped market for downloadable music outside North America. At least in India, where I come from.
- Anirudh S
New Blog Post by @mona: Who Does Apple Think They Are? http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Anne Bouey, Will Higgins™, Ken Stewart | ChangeForge and 10 other people liked this
I read the story...hmmm. What exactly is proper response? Letter from Steve Jobs makes it better? The fact is the couple was not seriously injured.
- Pokai
eh, a nice pair of laptops at best. I mean it's tempered glass for starters very little risk of any serious injury. It's not like an inappropriately stocked television fell on these people, referring to an incident last year at a Best Buy.
- Geoff Schultz {TF}
Three words: "We are sorry" - that's all it takes, if sincere, in almost any case where there has not been substantial loss or hurt. Anything else is really just to assuage any feelings of guilt, anything less is evidence the company is just plain wrong headed when it comes to customer relations.
- David HC Soul
Regarding Apple, I'm more concerned about Steve Jobs health. Not in the tabloid way of what is wrong with him...but more in the fact that I hope he gets better.
- Pokai
this is absolutely bullshit. How is ths Apple's fault in any way shape or form. If I were you Louis I would be removing this article and considering finding better bloggers
- Anthony Feint
Anthony, we have some great bloggers on the site. Mona is absolutely entitled to her opinion and I'm glad she's on the team.
- Louis Gray
The "sequence" of their response was clumsy (i.e. the first and only person heard from was legal) but the suggestion that they should have issued a press release is more than a little silly. Simply put, there is no fault nor negligence here by Apple. But the first thing they should have done was had a normal non-legal person call and check on them and tell them they were mortified and sorry that it happened. But the idea that Apple somehow owes them something is equally silly.
- Anthony Citrano
she's entitled to her opinion but I don't care for her defensive attitude in the comments. don't ask if you're overreacting and then bristle when people say you are!
- Que Sarah Sarah
Anthony - a glass door shattered on them and they were rained by glass. They are at least entitled to acknowledgement BY Apple, since the son took the time to e-mail corporate. They are a Fortune 500 company with thousands of employees. Someone in the office need to take the time to address and acknowledge the situation - not just call to ensure they weren't going to sue. It's customer service 101, better business practice.
- Mona Nomura
Anthony, I agree no press release should have been sent. What I suggested in the comments is that Apple is liable in that the store's structural integrity failed. If the K from KMart fell on you during a California earthquake, KMart would be liable. I don't see it as "what they are owed", but what would have made good customer relations instead.
- Louis Gray
Sarah, you have a point on bristling. Mona and I have different personalities, and she's very well liked here and on her blog, so I try not to tone her down, but instead to be herself.
- Louis Gray
My guess would be that these days in a situation like this you really can't have anybody other than legal talk to them, particularly if the legal folks feel there's some liability, or there's any hint at all somebody's thinking about litigation. When you say the customers "chose not to sue." How do you know? They've only chosen not to sue... yet.
- Ken Sheppardson
why don't the apologies from store staff count, again?
- idnan
Sarah - Everyone is entitled to their opinions, just like I am - and I am more than willing and able to effectively and rationally discuss. But communication is a two way street. If someone comes at me rude from the get go, I will bristle. ;)
- Mona Nomura
thanks ken for clarifying. given that this was even publicized further leads me to believe apple did the right thing in limited response. i'm shocked that people think this is blog worthy.
- Pokai
Ken - someone else mentioned that on a post in my feed. Truth is, I am a huge Apple fan and want to see them succeed. We see many companies thriving on customer service and with the instability and uncertainty of the economy - and especially technology, I would have expected Apple or any corporation for that matter, to at least ensure customer service is on point.
- Mona Nomura
Mona - It'd be great if we lived in a world where somebody from Apple could call and show some concern, compassion, and empathy without the risk that some attorney will turn around and say it's an admission of fault and/or liability. Unfortunately, we don't.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken - I hear you. Thanks for the input.
- Mona Nomura
In similar news, a gas station roof collapses due to ice. nobody killed. one person got cut on head. apology? read story here http://www.ireport.com/docs...
- Pokai
Uh, ireport is the same news source that spread false news Steve Jobs had a heart attack... :(
- Mona Nomura
Ahh, I see Tina Brown's The Daily Best sticks to high brow stuff, like promoting sexism: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...
i'm sorry for those boys, who are apparently viewed with (hopefully affectionate, at least) disdain.
- idnan
OK! I ADMIT. I don't have a life. But, do you?
The Real sofarsoShawn, Jeff P. Henderson, Steven Perez and 26 other people liked this
My job is my life! No time for much of anything else.
- Brandy Lea
define life
- RAPatton
Yes. It's just not a very glamorous one.
- Just Katie
No life here, to speak of.
- Jonathan Hardesty
Of course! I just avoid it most of the time to be on FF. :p
- Josh Haley
Lil bit.
- Derrick
Yes
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
I'm in my snuggie eating cheerios. I have a life damn it!
- BEX
I will have one, as soon I find one to buy on Amazon! (I don't like e-bay or I would already have a life).
- Bibi
sure thing!
- Peter Efland
Yes, it's vicarious
- ·[▪_▪]·
for me, my computer is my life
- AJ Batac :)
Not really much anymore
- Shevonne
yup.
- Carlos Ayala
Nope
- Mike Nayyar
Sure
- Rodfather
I lost that years ago. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
What if... wait, where am I?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Can't say that I do.
- Yolanda
I really don't have much of a life. I will admit it.
- Michelle M
Not at all.
- "Joey"
If I have a life, I'm doing a really good job of hiding it from myself and others. Or maybe it's just misplaced; I forget where I left things sometimes.
- Chris Charabaruk
i was too busy with Shadowrun to accept delivery. it was returned to the sender unopened.
- idnan
yes, and as of next week I did diminish some of my life.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
Yep. Actually I have so many responsibilities with work, family and friends, and so many personal interests, I have trouble focusing on any one of them for any length of time. I had a professor in college that always used to say "There's not enough hours in the day!". I never quite understood the gravity of that statement until about 10 year ago.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Yes. Just not using it right now.
- Steven Perez
only sometimes... Well, it's all in your head. What you've got is what you really wanted.
- philsmirnov
Man died after sex act went wrong - News - getreading - Reading Evening Post - http://www.getreading.co.uk/news...
From the article: "A security guard accidentally suffocated himself in an autoerotic accident, an inquest heard. Ralph Santiago, 31, was found dead in the men’s toilets of the building he worked wearing Wellington boots, a wetsuit and gas mask." Okay, I get the gas mask (he was using some kind of inhalant), but boots and a wetsuit?
- Nathan Rein
from Mento
presumably he died happy though
- Nathan Rein
what series of events leads to dubious (and dangerous) autoerotic activities in wellies, a wetsuit, and a gas mask ... at work? what happened to confining elaborate wanking techniques to the privacy of the home? kids today ...
- idnan
Rare 1,800-year-old figurine found in Jerusalem - http://www.physorg.com/news152...
"The 2-inch marble bust depicts the head of a man with a short curly beard and almond-shaped eyes who may portray a boxer, the authority said." - a weight for a hanging scale? lavish. that merchant had *style*.
- idnan
STFU, Valleywag. Just SHUT. UP. - http://pixelbits.wordpress.com/2009...
"Joey", Matt Frog, Tyson Key and 15 other people liked this
you got the haters part correct Mona. we all wish we were Mayer.
- Carlos Ayala
You go girl! *two snaps in a circle*
- Hookuh Tinypants
It's not because of her salary, or her "ins" with Google, it's the fact that we (females) in tech can NEVER win. We're either "fluff" or "bitches with balls". Marissa Mayer, regardless of her exterior should get respect. Internal politics aside, she represents Google well. And Valleywag needs to STFU.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Yes, I agree, that's really irritating
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
honest question ... is it that different for males? are they seen as either hard-a**es or pansy-a**es (excuse my language)?
- idnan
well, i *am* a woman in the US. what i mean is, when a man competes with those tactics, does he also get some sort of perception attached to him?
- idnan
No.
- Mona Nomura
hmmm. ok, that's not an experience i've had (i mean, as a military woman in tech i was pretty much seen as a b*tch, but no more than my male peers of comparable efficiency were seen as b*stards, so to speak). thanks for sharing that. it must indeed be irritating.
- idnan
Oh please. There are plenty of women in high-profile executive positions at tech firms, and there are plenty of initiatives to welcome women to the fold. I think the reason that Valleywag picks on Marissa is because she's photogenic and has an interesting lifestyle. It's not part of a conspiracy by the man to keep women shackled to the sink.
- m13a
Shackled to the sink? LOL Hence my point.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
What is your point, exactly? It's not like Valleywag is any kinder to Mark Zuckerberg or Jerry Yang.
- m13a
Did you even read it? Or are you going by the first line that mentions "Mayer"- since "shackled to the sink" or any type of chauvinism was mentioned there.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
shackled to the sink....ummm...that's nastier than pregnant n barefoot in the kitchen !
- viki saigal
True or False: As much as they deny it, guys like girls that are high maintenance.
Daniel Miessler, Jesper Kjær Hansen, The Real sofarsoShawn and 40 other people liked this
false
- Rob Sellen :o)
true...
- Bindu Reddy
false
- John Deisher
False, but then I might just be denying it. ;)
- Brad Butner
from twhirl
true, they want to show off who's holding onto their arm like a trophy. A total ego thing.
- The Real sofarsoShawn
i am and i do. so umm, true for me.
- Carlos Ayala
OH HELL NO.
- iTad
young true, older and wiser false.
- sean808080
FALSE and FALSE.
- Michael Forian
Guys want girls who look like high maintenance but act like low maintenance.
- FFing Enigma
Tina nails it.
- iTad
god, i hope not.
- Nakachi
tralse
- Kevin Johnson
interesting to know your ages...what relationship experince you have had... not in depth..just.. you know. sean808080 said it best i think lol
- Rob Sellen :o)
False, but to each his own.
- Victor Ganata
false.
- Nathan Rein
Tina is our new champion.
- EricaJoy
Thanks Tad. Not my first time at this rodeo ;-)
- FFing Enigma
The winner is @Stupid Blogger! TRUE (sorta)
- Glenn Batuyong
Trish - either or / or both.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
You date the high maintenance ones. You marry the low maintenance ones (if you are lucky)
- Andrew Leyden
false
- Dennis O'Neil
false
- ronin
I like being spoiled but I don't expect it every day b/c I know how hard it is to work & save money so when I am spoiled I make sure hubby knows it's appreciated. That's high maintenance in both sides ;)
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
from BuddyFeed
High maintenance is okay, but it can be highly annoying at times. I'm going to say it's a bit of both.
- Christian (Simply X)
Bah, false. I don't look at women like a financial investment.I like the ones I like, and damned be the investment
- Mo Kargas
So waht about emotionally high maintenance?
- Mona Nomura
from IM
false....:o) emotional one is the worse.
- Rob Sellen :o)
hahahhahahhaha
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I'm not answering that :)
- Eric
Ok, so I am low maintenance (emotionally and materialistically). I either: a) pick the wrong ones or b) am too low maintenance because my super duper high maintenance gfs are in really good relationships, while I always end up screwed haha. According to them, guys really like high maintenance chicks.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
maybe like tina said... act like that at times... ;o) IE when its appropiate for the ego stroke! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
False! Totally false. Yet I'm engaged to a high maintenance girl. Sigh...
- Chris Charabaruk
No, that's the thing - I LOOK high maintenance but I'm not. But I am doing something wrong because I end up with selfish jerks LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
guys dont know wtf they want.
- Carlos Ayala
Oh I knew exactly what I wanted. I went out and got it. Now I have it and I'm happy.
- iTad
I don't care what I want, it's about what I need
- Bwana ☠
looking and seeming it are to different things ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
HELL, no. A girl that is high-maintenance just means she's a pain in the ass and expects me to do everything for her without doing the same in return. If I want something high-maintenance, I'll get a vintage car or buy Twitter.
- Rah-PM 2012
False
- Morton Fox
TWITTER LOL!!!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
lol @ rahsheen for twitter... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
FALSE!
- donato
Mutual low maintenance has worked for us for danged near 41 years.
- Marvin Smith
Tina and Andrew nailed it methinks.
- Sally Church
How do your super duper high-maintenance gfs pick their bfs? Are the guys high-maintenance too?
- Jim Norris
size of wallet? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
bingo.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Then they deserve each other, quite frankly!
- Sally Church
lol @ sally!
- Rob Sellen :o)
Sally ++ hahahahha
- Mona Nomura
from IM
False.
- Keith - @tsudo
False... here's proof.... My wife, on her first date, wanted to go to Wendy's.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
False.
- Anthony Baker
this discussion baffles me. how could anyone like someone who was high maintenance? takes all kinds, i guess.
- Nathan Rein
I forgot what the question was ~ lol per Rasheen's Twitter zinger. And on vintage car thing, how can you forget the line/scene, "When Cameron was in Egypt's land...let my Cameron go!" http://www.imdb.com/title... (yes, this is random, as my mind is free to wander having a non-high maintenance relationship)
- Micah
for the record...i cant stand high maintenance chicks.
- Carlos Ayala
Is it possible low maintenance attracts guys who are lazy in the romance dept?
- Shirley Wu
I still say there's a difference between looking high maintenance and acting high maintenance The two may often go hand in hand, but they don't have to.
- FFing Enigma
I agree Tina.. as I said earlier. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
False - less work is more
- Jim Goldstein
false
- Threepwood
false!
- sean percival
Guys digging high-maintenance chicks is one of those falsehoods promoted by romance comedies.
- Chris Charabaruk
ONLY for so long spidra..experience tells me that ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Spidra Not all of us. I don't put up with BS from anyone but my relatives, and that's only because they'll cause me even more grief. (Some days, I think I was born into a clan of internet trolls. Other days, I know.)
- Chris Charabaruk
i think it depends on how you define maintenance. i love the spa, totally moisturize head to toe, love bliss scrubs, good lingerie, to be dressed well. guys seem to be ok with this kind of high maintenance. the drama type though no.
- Patricia
bring on the high maintenance chicks!
- Carlos Ayala
what would a low one "look" like?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Like Mona, presumably.
- Jim Norris
Only at a distance, Mona.
- Steven Perez
NOPE
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I'll put up with it with women under 30. It doesn't age well. Not that women under 30 would have anything to do with me. ;)
- Oldengrey (Jay)
And its only yours and your hubby's opinon that matters on it jilly... ;o) so ya both got it right. :-D
- Rob Sellen :o)
i have a feeling you mean "pay attention to." low maintenance is likely preferable in itself, but a low maintenance person is easily dismissed. i know nothing of this area of life, though, so i'm just guessing.
- idnan
did ya tell him what ya love about him too? :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
There's nothing wrong with girls who like shiny things, but to me being "high maintenance" means that they're needy emotionally. Bad.
- Will Higgins™
disagree with Jason - I love to look at the high maintenance ones, and I like hanging out with them too.
- Anthony Citrano
Low maintenance with a splash of high maintenance in them. Not too much or i will leave them by the side of the road. (Maybe that is why i am still single)!
- Amani
FALSE
- Louis Gray
false
- cjmart
I like women who are somewhere in the middle, not too needy, but not totally independent either.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I like them in the middle and on the side, too.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
+1 Oldengrey
- Chris Charabaruk
A high-maint chick EXPECTS me to pay for her nails, hair and feet. A chick I would actually like APPRECIATES that kind of treatment.
- Rah-PM 2012
I think girls should at least supply their own feet, Rah.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Well put, Rahsheen!
- Chris Charabaruk
And, the opposing question: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Chris Charabaruk
Totally depends on the guy. I myself, do.
- Daniel Miessler
another vote for Tinas comment, spot on!
- Peter Efland
Actually the answer is no. It kind of reminds me of this G4 thing about dealing with girls who are crazy, yet who are hot. So I say it's a personal scale with a crazy to hotness ratio. Usually 3:1. My scale would have to be 5:1 or 6:1 on that though.
- ЯIИGҜIИG
I meant my scale for maintenance is 5:1 :)
- ЯIИGҜIИG
False
- Alastair Montgomery
Yes and no, depends on what aspects are high maintenance.
- T-Bone Tsali, FF Cherokee
Totally False
- Charlie Anzman
False. Look for a fox with 3 or 4 brothers; she thinks she one of the boys..
- Phil Boiarski
false
- Juan Pablo González
False. But then I've only ever given my heart willingly to one girl, she's trouble but it's the spark within her that draws me to her. That and I'm trouble too so we're a great matching, it's never boring ;) I've had "high maintentance" girls apparently show interest in me, I say apparently because I never noticed it. I only know because others told me "you do know she likes you right?"
- alphaxion
False
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
False
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
High Maintenance is subjective. Most people are H.M. in regards to certain behaviors.
- George Smith
Not ... on ... your ... life.
- AJ Kohn
i think the mechanism is that once you have sacrificed a lot to something - be it a demanding girl or a religion - you find it a lot harder to let go
- Iphigenie
false
- DGentry
false
- Neya
false
- Chris Hofmann
Me too, but ofcourse....
- Yuvi
i can barely maintain myself. how the heck am i supposed to deal with a high maintenance girl?
- Imabug
People say they want a girl in jeans and no makeup, but most of the times, that's false.
- Mona Nomura
It's not constrained to the bar scene - even the supermarket or a coffee shop, restaurant. Unfortunately, our society is driven by outward appearances.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
And the gym. Don't forget about the make-up worn at a place where it's intended for you to sweat.
- Just Katie
False. I drop HM girls like the brats they are.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
OMG There's nothing grosser than runny sweaty make-up LOL
- Mona Nomura
@Jilly I dunno. I like those girls, something sexy about it. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I don't get the make-up and working-out/playing sports. Girls would do their powder right before a soccer match and I would just gawk at them. Ewwww.
- Just Katie
There are two types of high maintenance: emotional and material. Emotional can be difficult but tend to be more intelligent and caring. Material tends to be superficial and cold. I prefer women who are emotionally high maintenance. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.
- Paul
Actually, I am caring but called cold, since I tend to be more rational than emotional.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
no way
- andy brudtkuhl
agreed re: makeup. i absolutely hate the look of lipstick (unless it's a natural color)
- cjmart
Jason, I find women that are emotionally high maintenance more passionate and romantic, which I'm attracted to being rather passionate and a bit of a romantic myself. Women and men who are materially high maintenance tend to use emotions and sensuality as bargaining chips.
- Paul
It may just come down to finding a compatible partner.
- Mona Nomura
True. True.
- jho
if my wife had been high maintainance when we first met then she would never have become my wife.
- Joe The Sausage
False.
- Steve Isaacs
Truly False.
- Matt Griswold
If events like this were any indication then I would say the answer is true: http://is.gd/h0qL
- ronin
true, wish it were not so
- Dave Winer
false - can't be doing with high maintenance women, I need someone who is my equal.
- Andy Davies
That's what they all say!
- Mona Nomura
for a short period of time; True
- Mattb4rd
False
- Steve Rubel
This thread has become rather high maintenance
- Dennis O'Neil
high maintenance? no way, not a chance
- Jason Wehmhoener
FALSE. (they are good to look at)
- Valley
So.. talking about women like their a piece of machinery.. yep that's complimentary (?)
- Sean
I'm curious - how many blokes were absolutely honest in this thread?
- Sally Church
++ Sally LOL
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Mona, have been doing too much hand holding with buddies lately - they go for the pretty (but high maintenance) gal for their egos and secretly long for the low maintenance tomboy in a baseball cap. LOL or should that be a big sigh ;-)
- Sally Church
www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com that's to Sally's comment re: deserving each other.
- EricaJoy
Hahaha I love that site.
- Shawn Farner
here I'd I'd like to add a very wise & sage quote on what men want: "A Lady in the street & a freak in the bed, YEAH, YEAH...shorty got down..." - Usher Raymond. So yes guys wanna girl to show off.
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Missed this one. And it certainly doesn't need another comment. But I will add that I am in NO position to determine what guys like. If I did, I might be somewhere else entirely.
- Martha
mona http://friendfeed.com/e... now what guy wouldn't want to take that &....?
- The Real sofarsoShawn
wrong cause/effect interpretation. actually it's when guys like girls most, then they *become* high maintenance, not vice versa
- dave mcclure
That's just rude and taking advantage, Dave!
- Mona Nomura
guys like girls that look like they are high maintenance, but not the ones that actually are ;)
- xero
I would have to say it depends where the guys are from. In florida YES in Michigan NO. I don't know about everywhere else.
- Adriana
false!
- timepilot
Mindomo - Web-Based mind mapping software #web - http://www.mindomo.com/
Marco(aureliusmaximus), marx, Erik Kjell and 13 other people liked this
"Mindomo is a versatile Web-based mind mapping tool, delivering the capabilities of desktop mind mapping software in a Web browser - with no complex software to install or maintain."
- Seth Greenblatt
from Bookmarklet
Seth, tags, tags, tags...please
- Zee.
where do the tags go when posting a link? Pretty new here.
- Bruce Vittetoe
trying this out, very cool so far!
- Leigha Baer
http://bit.ly/8I1r @web3ff, @Duma, @oharaville, @TA125, @globalnomad *After* the ObamaWeb2-Hype -what's popular *now* ?”
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I don't see where you're supposed to add tags in FF either!
- Glenn Batuyong
I will discuss why I can never have another Diet Coke here:
David Cook, Nigel Walsh, Cristinella, Inc.©®™ and 101 other people liked this
My dad has a degenerative kidney disease. They don't know what causes it. But he's slowed it down by changing his diet. Today I was diagnosed with the same disease. Turns out I can't eat red meat anymore and I can't have coke or Diet Coke in it either. I'm in early stages, according to doctor, but says changing diet might help, especially since it helped my dad.
- Robert Scoble
what happened?
- Akshay Dodeja
I think it makes him pee.
- Mona Nomura
don't leave us in suspense!
- Bryce Roney
Is that brb or brp?
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Sweetener debacle?
- Mo Kargas
Remember: not every bathroom comes with a built-in Tweetmachine.
- David Feng
This is interesting. Please tell us!
- Keith Neisler
I had to quit because it got hard to remember my name!
- Reed Porter
That's an interesting thing to entice us with...now where's the finish?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Cogent with a touch of brevity.
- Bill Romanos
Doctor says my kidneys are working about half of what a normal person's is. He's already done tons of tests to make sure it's not some really bad disease. My dad's had this condition for decades.
- Robert Scoble
Ow. Whoops. Sorry to hear that. (I think I should cut Coke my end too.)
- David Feng
Saccharin makes you vanish?
- Jose Castillo
I also should avoid all red meat and many dairy products including ice cream. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
"might" is the dr.'s word for who konws, so enjoy your life and don't worry unless they're definitive
- Bob Sonin
A very big change in your eating habits. Good luck, Robert. I'm sure you can do it.
- Yolanda
That doesnt sound good at all. Lets hope its not as bad as it sounds.
- Akshay Dodeja
Robert - sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Please, take are of yourself.
- Mona Nomura
Oh no. Ice cream. My fave during the Summer... (Beijing has this hidden ability to fry people alive come May already. 100F, anyone?)
- David Feng
@Robert: I'm sorry to hear this. I hope you are able to find some substitutes for your diet. Switching off meat is possible (ask some vegans) but be sure to talk with a nutritionist to ensure your protein intake remains controlled (one of the biggest problems). Good luck with this.
- Andrew Leyden
Anything with lots of protein, like beef, lamb, pork are to be avoided. Anything with phosphorus like nuts, beans, milk, cheese, ice cream, yogurt, and coke/pepsi are to be avoided. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I knew a diabetic who was sometimes hit by an overwhelming feeling of being deprived...probably more than he would feel if he avoided certain foods by free choice. Does that happen with you? If so and I meet you in person I'll be sensitive to that.
- Bruce Lewis
Ahh yeah, since he got diagnosed my doctors have been watching the protein in my urine. I've been on blood pressure medication for a while because of it, which seems to help a lot. Bummer that they didn't catch yours sooner, bro.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
At least you won't get Mad Cow Disease. In all seriousness though, I'm really sorry to hear about that, Scoble.
- Dean Gebert
diet soda hasn't really ever made sense to me anyway, just drink something else if you can't have regular soda ya know? well do what you gotta do scoble, its not your life, its your family's
- David
Sorry to hear it, my friend. All the best with adapting to this with change of diet.
- John McCrea
DO NOT WANT! Yogurt! My absolute favorite! Oh my God I feel so bad and so sorry for you Robert.
- David Feng
I'm sorry to hear that, Robert.
- David Cook
Sorry to hear about it, Robert. Hopefully, the diet modification will help.
- D. Lambert
Avoid ice-cream?! Meat? Please get a second opinion.
- Mo Kargas
It sounds mostly harmless but good luck with it!
- Andrew
That totally sucks, Robert! I don't think I could live without Coca Cola and meat and dairy products.
- Chris Charabaruk
Sorry to hear Robert. At least it is manageable. Good thing is ... you only need about 1/4 of *one* kidney to survive. I should know, my daughter was born with only one kidney. LOTS of research!
- AJ Kohn
Robert, it's great that they're catching this now, so you have time to make changes. Food changes will be hard, I'm sure, especially because of restaurant food. Take care of yourself. @LPH is doing a similar type of weaning from meat, soda, etc. but for cholesterol reasons. You can commiserate ;), but I don't suggest following his chili spaghetti - talk to Mom about recipes, not Layne lol
- Lora Heiny
Mo: I already have a second opinion. My dad was told by his doctor to avoid the same things. By the way, it's not the artificial sweeteners in Diet Coke that are bad. I can't have regular Coke either. It's made with phosphoric acid which turns into phosphorous. Turns out that's bad for your kidney. Of course I've been drinking tons of Coke and Diet Coke for decades.
- Robert Scoble
Best of luck Robert!
- Chris Rossini
wow Robert. Sorry to hear about this. Hope you can work around the diet limitations and stay healthy.
- Justin Korn
That just seems to leave beer and sushi. Could be worse ;)
- Dennis Howlett
Dennis: and Scotch! :-) Oh, wait, that kills your liver. Can't win at this game anyway. Might as well have fun! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, sorry to hear this. If the diet has made a difference to your Dad, it made well help you too as these things can definitely be hereditary.
- Sally Church
Sally: my dad is worse. He can't eat anything that has lots of potassium, like bananas.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear that, but glad to hear that there's something that can help. Also glad that there's every chance you can get a head start on keeping your kids healthier, too. Good luck.
- Linda Mills
Yes, all carbonated stuff kills the kidneys. And red meat. Byproduct: you will lose weight.
- Francine Hardaway
I'm addicted to Pepsi and/or Coke. Quit drinking it about 18 months ago and have to say there have been numerous health benefits. Still want a coke pretty much every day, but it's just not worth it. I know change sucks but you WILL feel better. Well, wait, I don't know the ramifications of your degenerative kidney disease so I should say I hope you feel better. Keep positive, remember you're loved, and tell yourself Diet Coke is "yucky!"
- tracy
Glad this got caught early for you and that you can make a lifestyle change to help address it. Our lives are pretty fragile when you think about it, no?
- Kevin C. Tofel
tracy: yeah, I hear you. It's going to be tough. But ice cream? Damn. In-N-Out? I love that stuff! Oh well.
- Robert Scoble
I'm in the early stages of giving up Diet Coke (which I've been on now for a few years after giving up Coke). It's rough because I do miss the taste and I think plain water just sucks. I wonder how many computer folks really drink too much of this stuff?
- Andrew Leyden
Kevin: exactly. My life changed one afternoon when a lady hit my car and my car overturned. Made me realize that every day could be our last. Party hard! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Is it called FSGS? Mind sharing the diet with me? I know someone who has FSGS and it sounds like it might help! Thanks! (ann.finnie@hp.com)
- Ann Finnie
Andrew: Diet Coke (or Pepsi) is a staple of a majority of geeks world wide.
- Robert Scoble
Diet Coke me.
- tony
Ann: they don't know what it is. My dad had lots of tests and they couldn't figure it out.
- Robert Scoble
Did you ask your doc if a diuretic, like in blood pressure meds, would help?
- Francine Hardaway
The bright side: in about 3 months, you'll probably be in the best shape of your life and you'll feel 10 years younger. You may as well go vegan and seek out vegan recipes/foods.
- Paul Reynolds
Francine: since my dad was helped with diet changes, I bet that will help me too. My condition is pretty stable, this stuff happens over decades. Anyway, I have low blood pressure and always have.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear it, Robert. I switched to Diet Coke years ago and now I'm trying to cut it out as well. Good luck with the diet changes and your health! One of my favorite quotes: Take care of your body. It's the only place you have to live. --Jim Rohn
- Carmen wBabby
hi scoble, sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Diet changes can definitely help esp. if it's early; will slow the degenerative process. Something to consider, you may find qigong beneficial in strengthening your system. Sending you good energy!
- Antonia Teixeira
Pfft. I can beat that. You up for a game of degenerative disease top trumps Robert? Stay well in the meantime.
- mattpovey
Sucks Robert, take care of yourself, but no red meat? What a life!
- Mark Trapp
sorry to hear. best wishes managing your condition
- mashable
Robert, this is a shock. How did they find out you had this? Were there any symptoms that clued them in or did they do a ton of tests? i'm a Mountain Dew junkie and eat lots of red meat......and i smoke. But I'm happy. Wish you luck man!
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Mark, yeah, sucks. I like hamburgers. That's going to be tough to give up. Mashable: thanks.
- Robert Scoble
slayerboy: I had higher than normal creatinine levels. My dad said to be on the lookout for that. Then they did a bunch of tests to make sure I didn't have some weird and deadly disease.
- Robert Scoble
I HEAR YOU CAN POUR COKE INTO YOUR TOILET, IT MAKES A GREAT TOILET BOWL CLEANER! sorry caps. not shoutin...
- Karin Hiebert
I've seen 2 great pointers for those wanting to eat healthier: if your grandmother wouldn't recognize it - don't eat it (strange but true) & do your shopping on the outer rim of the grocery store - fresh produce, bakery, fresh meats etc. Best of luck!
- MicahBear78
The question I have is this: Is it better to live a long, healthy life and be miserable trying to be healthy or to live a short, unhealthy life but be the happiest person on earth? Yes, this sucks, but in the end it's all about what makes you happy. Doctors have been wrong before. Obviously if this is causing you pain, it's better to change to healthy stuff so you can live happier. Everyone needs to evaluate what makes them happy, each person is unique.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
for people curious about food substitutes that Robert is talking about: http://www.kidney.org/atoz...
- Lora Heiny
Robert, my prayers are with you. I know from personal experience that it is amazing what diet change can accomplish. We are indeed "...Fearfully and wonderfully made". Be encouraged. And Boca burgers are not bad at all. ;) btw- I wanted to add that I had to be on Macro for 5 years and a 14 day rotation diet before that. You CAN change your body chemistry and organs have been known to heal. In my own case, I came back from jaundice and very bad adrenals which put a hardship on my kidneys.
- Melanie Reed
slayerboy: the problem with this disease is it doesn't kill you. It makes you go on dialysis when you're older. So, I have to decide whether I want to take steps to put that off. I do.
- Robert Scoble
Really sorry, Robert. They don't know what causes FSGS either, but it scars the kidneys and reduces their function over time.
- Ann Finnie
Robert - Soda is a small sacrifice. I don't drink it... quit completely about 15 years ago. Red meat... well that would be more troublesome for me. Take care of yourself.
- Brian Roy
Lora: I love the Internet. One reason I talked about this is so you'd all slap my hands if you saw me breaking the rules at a conference. Damn, I love my morning coffee with milk, too. Grrr. I might be grumpy for a while.
- Robert Scoble
a blessing in disguise. once you stabilize the change in diet you will never be or feel healthier. the pepsi and cokes of the world are poison. drink water instead of coke and eat sorbetto (sorbet) instead of ice cream...and fall in love with seafood while your at it. mark your weight when you switch up your diet and in a week you will see 3-5lbs shaved off without you doing anything else.
- Carlos Ayala
Robert, sorry to hear about your condition here as well. I was diagnosed with GERD several years back, and diet cured it, but I know this isn't anything like GERD. If I can help in any way let me know - you're in my thoughts. Best wishes Robert.
- Jesse Stay
So sorry to hear that Robert.A raw food diet could really help. Check out http://thesunnyrawkitchen.blogspot.com/
- Gemma Craven
i'm sorry to hear that. you could retain carbonated satisfaction with home-made soda flavored in various ways. there are a few flavors (my secret recipes, but you can have them if you like) i'd take over cola any time! best wishes.
- idnan
Robert: lol definitely. You watch out for peanuts in food for me already - now, we watch out for milk products for you :) At least you can have non-dairy creamer -- oooh and popcorn ;)
- Lora Heiny
Robert, I can empathise with you and your Dad since I nearly lost a kidney as a child. It still struggles sometimes and also gets sore so yeah, I have to drink lots of water, avoid fizzy drinks and artificial sweeteners etc. No bananas or salty foods is the hardest for me.
- Sally Church
robert... positive vibes your direction. my aunt has Coeliac/Celiac disease (she can't eat wheat) and it was tough at first, but your eating habits will become normal to you eventually. Keep your chin up!
- Chris Heath
Sorry to hear. Best of luck to you!!
- Ted Louie
I'm so sorry to hear this, I don't know how serious that is, but I'm hoping it's something that can be corrected with the change. I'm sympathetic too. Giving up things "forever" is incredibly hard, even when necessary. Too bad there aren't patches or gum to wean you off the D.C. (I have the same addiction). I wish you the best in the new, healthy lifestyle you have ahead of you.
- Sarah Perez
Sorry to hear that, but at least it sounds like you have time to deal with it. Your hand could get pretty sore from several thousand people slapping it! I think that might be incentive enough! Or tweet slaps, that might crash Twitter!
- Chris Mayer
Scoble, I'm sorry to hear about this. Glad that you caught it early and glad that you don't seem to be to down about it. I like your attitude, many people would say F' it and just continue to eat how they were before. So well done. If you blog tweet all your meals for a while it may work as a good support system? I'd yell at you if you want me to when I see cokes or red meats.... :) best of luck my friend.
- ryangraves
so sorry to hear about this. i hope the adjustment in diet helps and isn't too terribly difficult to get accustomed to.
- mario anima
I'm sorry to hear about this Robert. Thanks goodness those are the only two things they took away from you. It still leaves you with many other options. Better to look at the glass half full. ; ) I hope your new diet helps.
- Adriana
Bad news - sorry to hear about that. Early detection/treatment is so important. Be glad you caught it early. Hopefully diet keeps everything under control.
- Bryan Duke
Ryan: hah, we all have a death sentence. It does no good to worry about this stuff. In fact, I am pretty sure that worrying makes it all worse.
- Robert Scoble
Thank God u found out for starters. Second, there is so much progress these days who knows what info is just around the corner,Three, you have so much energy and will that u bring to life-that is huge. Finally, think about accupuncture as a support. I know that it has helped many people with very serious problems. More positive vibes!
- frankiecarl
Awwww that sucks! :(
- Brandy Lea
I understand Robert, it seems you've done your research on this. Sounds like a very hard decision to make. I don't think it will be all bad for you though, as Carlos says it may serve to improve your health in the long run. It may even serve to open up your food choices, and help you experience a wider range of foods. Wishing you all the best mate
- Mo Kargas
Thanks for helping to cement my decision to eliminate soft drinks from my daily routine. It's been one month as of today. As others have mentioned, it will likely turn out to be a blessing in disguise with you ending up feeling healthier and dropping some weight if you eliminate all soft drinks.
- maczter
Mo: I like all foods except for eggplant, so finding something to eat won't be a problem. It's just they took away some of my favorites. I will deal. A lot of people have a lot worse. At least I can still hang out with @garyvee! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Just watch that liver Robert ;-) Enjoy what you can, though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: if I hang out with you and Louis my liver will be fine. My kidney, on the other hand... :-)
- Robert Scoble
Once again, FF needs a comment button at the bottom of the comments... I started the year off not eating anything from cow as part of a diet plan. Good luck. Be sure you replace the Iron intake.
- Gus
You're being proactive, which is great. I'm reading up on your food list so next time we meet at a conference or wherever we can help keep the food straight. :-)
- Loren Heiny
Ok, Robert, not the news you wanted I'm sure. But...at our time of life (well, you have a couple of years on me but we'll let that slide) re-evaluation is a great thing. Do what the doc says and you'll be fine. Just don't switch to bottled water because it's an easy - but ecologically damaging- alternative. You got lots to do yet (*cough* interview *cough*) and when you've digested the news I'm sure you'll be sharing your kidney-health tips with us all - as is you way. Best wishes.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
strength to you, Robert. and welcome to Veggie-world (well, the outskirts, anyway<g>).
- MikeAmundsen
Mike: I remember talking to you about your vegetarianism back in the 1990s. Wild, huh?
- Robert Scoble
I've heard of this. What a blessing to discover it early in your life. Many folks have diabetes as well and don't realized it until it's too late. Thanks for sharing.
- Todd Jordan
Robert I was diagnosed in 1995 with degenerative kidney disease (glomerular nephritis). My prayers are with you. Watching your protein intake is important. Did you have a renal biopsy done? @lawain
- lawain
lawain: the doctor and I decided not to have a biopsy done because it isn't a weird fatal disease (they've already checked for that) and because it's hereditary and stable. All sticking needles in me would do is cause me pain so I decided against it.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry about the news, Robert. I took myself off meat (except fish, like Ari) & I rarely drink coke (but oh is coffee my weakness). I was the biggest Carl's Jr Western Bacon Cheeseburger / IN N OUT / all things steak / bacon...BACON! guy. 5 years ago something snapped & I changed my eating lifestyle. I'm dragging this out just to say I can't explain it, but it wasn't as hard as I would have imagined. After a month I felt real good and I didn't miss it. Keep sharing - it's not called FriendFeed for nothing :)
- Micah
Health can catch up on us. I was diagnosed with High Blood Pressure a few months back (my Mother also has hypertension) and then less than a week later suffered a stroke at 44. I'm recovering now, and learning to live with a changed diet also. So I have some idea of what it's like for you. Keeping a positive outlook really helps. Best wishes.
- John Collis
@R: yep. life is like that. next time we meet, we can share a tasty non-dairy health drink (oxymoron?).
- MikeAmundsen
Robert, check out http://www.rawfor30days.com. Amazing film about changing your diet and the effect it can have on your health. Good luck my friend.
- John Seiferth
John: a stroke is what killed my mom. Not good at all. Glad to hear you're doing OK.
- Robert Scoble
sounds like some alternative SXSW plans may be in order (or at least a lot of bbq chicken - you still can have Chicken?). Good luck with the diet changes - at least you have caught it early and have the positive example of your dad's slowing it down via diet to keep you motivated!
- Shannon Clark
Shannon: damn, you reminded me of SXSW. Yeah, Chicken is OK.
- Robert Scoble
I don't blame you on the needles...I had the renal biopsy and it was terrible. I had to lie on my back (no movement) for 24 hours...and the pain was not fun. Good luck Robert. Fish Oil supplements are a must. Keeping a good thought for you this night...
- lawain
So sorry to hear about your dx, but I'm glad you got it and I'm glad you are acknowledging it. The act of change is hard, but will be worth it in the end. I wish you the best of luck.
- Heather Solos
Robert, What a shock for you. Am sorry to hear this news. I cared for my Father, who had same disease along with diabetes.. Am not going into detail here. But if you or your dad need resources or anything at all. Please let me know. Will keep you both in positive thought. (Not sure if they mentioned to you about managing your salt intake and foods with certain perservatives.) Most people do well with disease if they take good care of themselves. Stay grounded, think positive and above all don't worry!
- SashaKane
Just curious Robert, since it seems like you are always on the move do you pack snacks with you to keep you going or just hold out from meal to meal. I'm a snacker myself...weird question I know, but thought this was a somewhat relevant time to ask.
- Tyler Brownfield
I'm glad this was caught while you can deal with it with diet changes. I've been working on diet changes myself (mostly getting rid of refined sugar and white flour and, well, as much "manufactured" food as I can). It's a lot more work for me, but the health benefits are well worth it. Take care!
- vicster
Scoble, sorry to hear about your diagnosis. But I'm glad you've caught it now. My boss read the book Eat to Live by Dr. Joel Fuhrman: http://tinyurl.com/8sh23u and was impacted by it so much, that he decided to cater salads and a health conscious kitchen for us every day at work. We don't consider enough that what you eat really affects your health. Check it out, hope it helps.
- Marcus Kwan
Red Bull makes an awesome all natural cola. No phosphoric acid, no high fructose corn syrup, good stuff. Maybe you can drink that.. Disclosure: I work for Red Bull but honestly, the stuff is awesome and NO phosphoric acid.
- Kevin Doohan
I cut out soda. It wasn't so hard to do. Plus, you can save money just asking for water when you eat out.
- Morton Fox
I have a relative who is on a restricted diet because of a medical condition. Restrictions can be frustrating. Good luck.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
ok, i don't eat meat, but still drink soft drinks occasionally. if Robert is giving them up, then i will, too. no more phosphoric acid for me!
- MikeAmundsen
Nothing to say, but feel better, and soldier on!
- James Ostheimer
Sorry to hear it, Robert. Best wishes, hope diet will help. Chinese medicine is a great remedy as well....just a suggestion.
- Moushumi Kabir
Hey Robert, I guess they will come up with a cure very soon - so you may be having ice-cream sooner than you think!
- Rahul Deodhar
Good luck with it Robert
- cjmart
Robert, what is it about coke that aggravates your condition? The carbonation, the caffine, something else? Just curious as to why that in particular is an issue.
- Lindsay
all the best robert ... sounds like action now is the smartest medicine.
- Toby Forage
Good luck Robert. I was diagnosed with a heart condition a few years back, and had to give up chocolate and caffeine (although I still occasionally sneak a coffee in). It's very difficult to change diets at first, but you'll get there and I wish you the best.
- Brandon Mendelson
Sending you good wishes for the future, Robert. These will be hard changes to make, but you may find yourself feeling better as a result. I hope you're doing okay.
- Matt Cutts
Right, Ryo, because of the phosphorous and also the potassium...Means he also has to limit his intake of salt, broccoli and a bunch of other stuff.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
all soda? just the coke products? cola? dr pepper? 7up? Ginger ale?
- rob friedman
Mostly the dark ones. But really he should limit himself to herbal teas and water for most of his fluid intake.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What about seltzer/carbonated water? I was thinking of switching to that because of the texture of soda carbonation that water doesn't do much for me
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Have the real stuff, I never liked diet coke
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
He has to avoid the real stuff just as much as the fake stuff, Michael.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ryo, impossible.....you do know what was in ORIGINAL Coke, right? dDon't think that's legal in the US lol
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Again, no, he can't drink coke at all, nor root beer, nor pepsi, nor anything with much salt in it or potassium, which a lot of stuff has...means coffee is right out as well. Imagine my dad, a guy who drank 2 pots of coffee for 30 years, having to give up coffee...well he did.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ryo--can you imagine how much Scoble will be on Twitter/FF etc, if he switches to Red Bull?
- David Thomas
I'm sorry to hear that you found out you have kidney disease. Did your docs recommend a kidney biopsy to get a diagnosis, or are they just watching and waiting? You *can* eat/drink things with phosphorus if you eat enough calcium to bind it, but obviously it would be best to discuss that with your physicians. If things are still early on, the protein load isn't as crucial, it's actually more important to eat *enough* protein to replace any protein you're losing and to prevent catabolism. Good luck!
- Victor Ganata
drink HONEST TEAS -- they are awesome - can get them at Whole Foods
- Maneesh
Your diet changes will make you feel much better long term anyway. My daughter is diabetic and when she gets low I tell her because of her healthy eating and close monitoring she's more likely to live to a ripe old age than most others who eat trash. Good luck Robert and a long and healthy future to you.
- Nicola Quinn
Man, sorry to hear the news. Diet coke is terrible for you, so you'll be doing yourself a world of good. Glad they found it early. B
- Ben Metcalfe
Robert, I'm so sorry to hear about this illness. You may indeed be able to control its severity and you will improve your overall health by not drinking soda or eating red meat. I'm sure your doctors will tell you more, or a good nutritionist will. Even though it's hard, you now have an opportunity to eat and live in a more nourishing way. My best thoughts to you and your family.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
So sorry to read that. Ganbatte, as they say in Japan, Robert!
- Paul Papadimitriou
Robert, yoga is supposed to help significantly. I'll connect you to a yoga guru if you like. Are you sure its the diet coke and burgers and ice-cream? Sure it isn't the facebook and friendfeed and twitter? :)
- Amit Pradhan
Robert, listen to your doctors. Renal failure is not a good thing and getting dialysis sucks. Learn to love fresh lemonade but best yet just simple water. Learn to love life in the process of this diagnosis.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
I'm really sorry to hear that! The diet sounds like a big adjustment, but worth it if it helps to keep you well.
- Kate
Well, that sucks. I've dealt with food allergies/things to avoid previously. You get used to it relatively quickly once you've made the effort to find out all the alternatives. But good luck staving off the dialysis and dysfunction. I'll consume a burger in your honor this weekend.
- Kevin Leroux
I am really, deeply sorry to hear this Robert - I follow your posts and tweets with great interest and can't begin to imagine that such a big name could suffer. Famous people don't get ill!! My real sympathies.
- Peter Curd
I am a Diet Coke addict and I thank you for reminding me that drinking it is not healthy nor is it good for our bodies. Changing your eating habits may be difficult at first, but it will soon be second nature. Take care of your kidneys!
- Rachel Baker
Put yourself on your list of things to take care of.
- Phil Boiarski
Robert - With all the flying and running around you do, it could be worse. You've got more energy than the Energizer bunny.
- Charlie Anzman
Good luck Pal. Sorry to hear about his. You'll come out just fine though. You've got lots of people who love you and support you around you and you might find some brand new foods that you never even knew you loved.
- Thomas Hawk
Sorry to hear. :(
- Tyson Key
So are you allowed Pasta? What about Fish
- Marcus Beagley
Very sorry to hear that - any threat to kidneys or liver must be taken very seriously, but we can be thankful that there is so much we can do within our own control, through diet. Been having to tiptoe around my kidneys since I was a kid (but thankfully I can eat almost everything in moderation, but I had years salt-free and it could change again - salt free seriously complicated life!). There is plenty of great foods you can still eat, and do learn to like new things faster than we realise.
- Iphigenie
Robert, very sorry to hear that. Changing a diet is difficult, but I am sure you can work through it. Good luck.
- Rob Diana
Robert, I am so sorry. Giving up Diet Coke sounds to me even harder than giving up Big Macs. Take care of yourself, please!
- Betsy Devine
I have been against diet drinks for a very long time. Good for you to do this!
- Martha
I know Tofu and Textured Vegetable Protien are pretty decent in terms of what you can do with it and the taste.
- Stephen Lecheler
First month hard to give up , but by third month it will be much easier and by then you will be able to tell a difference in the way you feel. More than your kidneys will thank you. Overall fitness/wellness program may help too. Best of luck!
- Tracy Benham
I gave up Coke and French Fries from one whole year. It was surprising how that also basically meant I gave up hamburgers as well (you wouldn't order that without the other). Wife is nagging me to give them up again.
- Andrew Leyden
Robert, take care of yourself and stay healthy.
- Paul
robert, sorry to hear about your illness praying for you and your family
- Jonathan Jesse
thats not good. Take care of yourself.
- Venky Chinnathambi
Take care of yourself! By chance, is it polyarteritis nodosa? My mom has it and I've long suspected it was caused by her...unhealthy consumption habits.
- Phoenix
Drink water, lot's of water and your kidneys will love you
- paul mooney
Drink water, but don't drink too much if you have chronic kidney disease. You'll swell up.
- Victor Ganata
I myself prefer regular
- The Real sofarsoShawn
I'm not sure if you've discovered the wonderful world of loose-leaf tea yet, but I recently did and it's a wonderful alternative. Check out adagioteas.com. Good stuff!
- Rob
Lose-leaf tea is simply the best tea you can get; I've been drinking Darjeeling Second Flush for many years now and don't ever want to miss it.
- Donald Townsend
"I knew a diabetic who was sometimes hit by an overwhelming feeling of being deprived." - these times inevitably come because it's for the rest of your frickn life. The good news is the feelings go away and you realize life is still good. It will suck, but I have confidence you can make it through. Life will be different, but it will be just as good, maybe even better.
- Todd Hoff
Robert, sorry to hear you have the same disease, but making the decision to stay away from diet drinks and red meat will be good for you in lots of ways. Your heart and arteries will thank you too. Be sure to encourage Patrick and Milan to adopt the same limitations, since it's hereditary.
- Karoli
Robert I know you'll be able to manage this disease. I wish you the best of success in keeping it from impacting you enjoying your life to the fullest. I just found out last year that I have diabetes, totally changed how I'm supposed to eat, live, etc. I haven't done a great job with it - but I just remember how stunned I was when i found out and how it seemed to change how I look at everything, from my own mortality to priorities, to family to everything else.
- Morgan
Sorry to hear that. Robert :(
- Shey
Sorry to hear that, but it's great it was seen early. Hope you discover lots of good juices and thing to replace the sodas. And hope the BBQ at SXSW doesn't drive you nuts :)
- Patrick Jordan
For your cold beverage + caffeine fix, the South (yes, I'm speaking for the region) recommends Sweet Tea. *Real* sweet tea with sugar. Not that weird raspberry tea stuff they pass off in California.
- Paul Reynolds
Whole Foods 365 Cola has no phosphorus, no corn syrup and tastes pretty good
- RAPatton
He can't have ANY cola...as they all have potassium. He has to avoid salt, potassium and phosphorous like the plague.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex: I can have potassium. That only matters in later stages of the disease. But I can't have phosphorous. Some sodas, like 7 UP are OK. Any that have phosphoric acid aren't OK, though.
- Robert Scoble
If you say so...although 50% is the middle of it...should definitely avoid salt and keep your blood pressure low as that has an effect on the kidneys as well.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
7-Up -- it takes the ouch out of grouch. And it's Lithiated! http://www.flickr.com/photos... Sorry about the kidney issues, no fun.
- Paula W
Thanks everyone for the very kind words! Unfortunately iced tea is on the list of things I can't have. I don't know why. So is beer. These foods have phosphorous which is bad for my kidneys (yours are OK, so you don't need to worry about these limitations). They don't know what is causing our kidney disease.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear about this, as someone who doesn't drink tea or coffee (so lives on Coke), and is addicted to red meat, ice cream and beer! Just glad to hear you've found out about it at a time when you can make some changes. If it helps, I'm about to give quitting smoking another go, so I'll be having my own withdrawal problems!
- Badger Gravling
I'm a bit late, but sorry to hear about this. It sounds like you're still able to keep it under control by changing your diet. One of my uncles was on dialysis and it's not fun. Since it's hereditary, is there any chance Patrick & Milan could also develop it?
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Am from India here. Seen enough veggie, teetotalers. Welcome to the club (partly at least! ). It's not that hard, will be tough initially but as your friends,colleagues learn and understand, it will become much easier later as nobody is going to offer you foods you r not supposed 2 take, so less temptation. Switch to soya (ask doc 1st of course). Heard soya has lots of stuff which you would otherwise miss out due to severely reduced meat intake.
- Akshay Kini
My dad had kidney disease and was on dialysis for 15 years back when it was less efficient and more problematic. I am sorry your dad is struggling with it too. We never were clear on what the triggers might have been with my dad but environment was a likely factor as he spent a lot of time in old print newsrooms and aerospace manufacturing facilities.
- sean808080
What's with the inaugural ball(s)? seems so.... 17th century england
You're thinking of a masque, and that was France. Balls are more 19th century, and American.
- Chris Charabaruk
i thought those were popular in England (say, balls at Almack's). i suspect the "colonies" imitated and modified. made it seem like home. that and prizefighting.
- idnan
Apple starts to sell used products in China - http://www.physorg.com/news151...
reeeaaaaallly? i'd like to see how that pans out.
- idnan
Early farmers bred different coloured animals for their own amusement - http://www.stonepages.com/news...
"Early farmers may have genetically altered the coats of domestic animals for their own amusement, creating spots and stripes in the process ..." - neat!
- idnan
According to my dad, I have the magical power to appear and disappear in a blink. I startle him way too much.
*bamf* style? that's a neat magical power to have. mine appears to be the power to wake up at 0300, with or without my consent.
- idnan
IQ and death from unintentional injury - http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009...
sometimes the titles grab me for unexpected reasons.
- idnan
Eton Myers Collection virtual museum + Sudan Archive Digitisation - http://egyptology.blogspot.com/2009...
i'm so very fond of virtual museums.
- idnan
The Dark Abyss of Time. - http://traumwerk.stanford.edu/archaeo...
"... archaeology has been on the brink of revolutionizing our comprehension of time since the 18th century, but in each occasion, it has balked and withdrawn to the secure realm of historicism, becoming a mere subdiscipline of history. It is what Olivier calls the 'missed revolutions of archaeology' ..." - dang it! i pretty much have to read that.
- idnan
Senate Republicans block delay in TV transition - http://www.physorg.com/news151...
well, alright, but television is non-essential. i believe it was Susan who noted: "there's a wireless and lots of books." wireless in the traditional sense, of course. it would be a REALLY GREAT time to introduce Soma, though.
- idnan
New Year hangover? Sorry, scientists debunk detox claims - http://www.physorg.com/news150...
"Our investigation into detox products has convinced us that there is little or no proof that these products work, except to part people from their cash and downplay all the amazing ways in which our bodies can look after themselves." where i'm from, if it's not soap and it's not water ... wacky kids and your new-fangled ways to spend money.
- idnan
AAS Meeting Coverage This Week - http://www.universetoday.com/2009...
i recommend the blue line (light rail) to 1st st station if you want to use public transit. - LA Transit Master, 8th Level
- idnan
AAS Meeting Coverage This Week - http://www.universetoday.com/2009...
i recommend the blue line (light rail) to 1st st station if you want to use public transit. - LA Transit Master, 8th Level
- idnan
Police set to step up hacking of home PCs - Times Online - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
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THE Home Office has quietly adopted a new plan to allow police across Britain routinely to hack into people’s personal computers without a warrant. The move, which follows a decision by the European Union’s council of ministers in Brussels, has angered civil liberties groups and opposition MPs. They described it as a sinister extension of the surveillance state which drives “a coach and horses” through privacy laws. The hacking is known as “remote searching”. It allows police or MI5 officers who may be hundreds of miles away to examine covertly the hard drive of someone’s PC at his home, office or hotel room.
- Leo Laporte
Don't you just wish you lived in the UK. This is one of many big brother activities this foul government is undertaking
- Nick Fletcher
from twhirl
Typical of the UK to follow in the US footsteps. :P
- ·[▪_▪]·
It's used in cases like child pornography, from what I understand. Privacy doesn't include freedom to commit crimes...
- Patricia
Patricia - They DON'T KNOW that a crime was committed they THINK one MAY HAVE BEEN. The difference is critical. You could be a suspect tomorrow... all it takes is a bad tip or a misunderstood statement. The whole "well if you aren't doing anything wrong why are you worried" argument great until it is YOU.
- Brian Roy
Patricia, I'm sure there are positive and useful applications, but I think the outcry has to do with the door being open to this happening outside that arena. @Brian exactly ... i'm fond of "innocent until proven guilty," and such policies smack of "guilty until proven innocent." not a negligible change in the legal order of operations.
- idnan
You may KILL harmless people in the fight againt child pornography, which justifies everything...
- Harmen Bangma
@idnan, you have no idea then what doors are already open....
- Patricia
You don't have to prove them guilty... just get a warrant (prove you have reasonable cause to THINK a crime is being committed). I see NO reason to remove that check from the search process.
- Brian Roy
@Patricia i expect i don't, really, because i don't live in the UK and only have a moderate awareness of UK issues. there are those who would say the existence of such open doors in no way justifies the opening of another, simply because they exist.
- idnan
Harmen, that's nonsense. Brian Roy, it may be so, but, if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about. I'm not worried. I understand the concerns, but oh, if you think this is the only way your privacy is compromised online, you're in for a surprise. if anything, consumers should stop being blind and start realizing this baby's like one giant ticker tape on you and your personal business - and guard that first.
- Patricia
i have a distinct feeling we've lost our way, and find ourselves in a different discussion altogether ... but thank you for the discussion, wherever it goes.
- idnan
idnan, read up on the internet as a technology. it's not limited to the UK. the web has insane capabilities to invade your privacy - it's the platform, not the country, group, etc. - everything you do to some degree is already tracked.
- Patricia
Patricia - Of course you have something to worry about... If you didn't you'd post every bit of data you own on a public file share for everyone in the world to browse. When I use the internet I'm in "public" so of course it is a giant ticker tape... why is that shocking. What I do off the internet is MY BUSINESS. The contents of my financial files, private letters, photographs of my children, family movies, etc is private... and I have a reasonable expectation that it will remain so UNLESS someone can...
- Brian Roy
show probable cause to believe a) I've committed a crime and b) that data is proof of said crime.
- Brian Roy
@brian, several times a year my luggage is sifted through for all the public to see thanks to terrorists using the airplane system to attack our country. I'm not saying it's right or that I agree, but the reality is, very serious shit goes on via the IP platform and there has to be some way to stop people from commiting crimes. Just the same, someday you could be a criminal's victim....
more...
- Patricia
@Patricia i am aware of its reach, but we *were* discussing a governmental policy. you're discussing something interesting, but not what i was discussing. i'm amused by your encouragement to "read up on the internet," however. i thank you both for the discussion and a good chuckle.
- idnan
Patricia - I have been, you have no idea... so you might want to be careful with that. The MECHANISMS exist already. Get a warrant. That is all I'm saying.
- Brian Roy
@Patricia, who said, "if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about." You have it backwards - if I'm not doing anything wrong, then it's none of the government's business.
- Dean Barnett
idnan, the point is, this isn't the half of what you should be worried about that the government can do is all I'm saying.
- Patricia
consider, Patricia, the difference between having your luggage searched in an airport and random closet searches in your home. now, i'm not saying the internet is equivalent, but i *am* saying that such a policy alarms people in a similar way. at some point such invasion and monitoring may be necessary ... i would ask whether this is that point, that's all.
- idnan
That's crap! If they can do that then I should be able to attempt to hack their shit just to see if I can without consequence.
- JR
If you read the article, it says certain criteria need to be met to be authorized to do it. Granted, that'll be abused and manipulated, but it's not like they're given full green light to do as they please. Read further and they list a bunch of other things their authorities are already able to do. My point is, you've got a lot more to be afraid of than just this.
- Patricia
Patricia - The only thing I'm afraid of is people who believe surrendering their freedom/rights makes them safer. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Benjamin Franklin"
- Brian Roy
So, if I want to censor or target anyone on teh interwebz, all I have to do is report them anonymously as a Child Pr0nographer or Scarrorist, am I right?
- Richard Walker
@Brian, Agreed. Unfortunately, we have been giving up rights in the US at a ridiculous pace.
- Robert Miller
@Robert - To be clear Franklin is often misquoted he says "Essential Liberty" which is different than EVERY right. For Example - being taxed does not disturb my essential liberty... but it is a restraint on my liberty. Knowing the difference is vital.
- Brian Roy
This is a terrible precedent. It's also crazy because it starts a very high level hacking arms race that I'm personally extremely doubtful any "white hat" could ever win. The 4th amendment makes me feel a little better about things in the USA. The spirit of the 4th may have been broken badly during the previous administration, but we can still use it to restore our rights.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Brian, I understand and agree. But, the article says there is still criteria that needs to be met to be able to do it. You're all implying that they can just open up the hatch and dig inside at free will. It doesn't appear that's the case. To say that this'll open up some ability to do it illegally is like saying all authorities honor the rules requiring a search warrant today.
- Patricia
@Richard, probably not. There would probably need to be some substantial data or information to enable a green light for authorities to do it I'm not niave enough to think that'll protect anybody, but i'm also not niave enough to think suddenly we're losing privacy on the web.
- Patricia
Patricia, keep in mind that the UK does not have a bill of rights.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Patricia, sometimes in the interest of finding a guilty party, the rights we rely on to protect us are ignored by the individual(s). Without transparency, an act like this can be used to gain information illegally and then justify it after the fact.
- Robert Miller
Patricia - then what is the point. A Warrant does exactly that. The difference here is the POLICE do this without restraint. Just because a more Sr. cop has to say it is ok doesn't create a check/balance. What you are saying is the same as saying Wall St. will regulate itself because the put some "rules" in place...
- Brian Roy
Urgh, it's things like this that make me hate the UK. I've never left the country, and I've never had a passport, but I cringe at the prospects of going through the IDing process that they're slowly letting percolate in over time... :(
- Tyson Key
@Brian, I agree with what you said. I also believe my statement was a general statement about the erosion of rights in the US. Frankly, taxation never entered my view, but monitoring and invasion of privacy do bother me.
- Robert Miller
In the USA I would not be opposed to a constitutional amendment guaranteeing a right to privacy. The 4th protects us from illegal search and seizure but does not strictly prohibit (or define) invasion of privacy.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Patricia... "probably not" is probably not good enough :) It reminds me of an Iraqi neighbor feud... with anonymous tipline... resulting in some innocents being visited at 3AM by the "coalition forces" ... no interpreter, no nod to cultural norms, just another tragic experience in the tragedy we call "the Iraq victory"
- Richard Walker
@Jason, an amendment guaranteeing a right to privacy is an excellent idea.
- Robert Miller
That's an interesting point Patricia raised. We all regularly undergo luggage checks at airports without reasonable cause. Most people accept that that infringement is justified because of the benefits. An anonymous remote search of my hard drive - unknown to me - is much less invasive. Serious Q here. Do you really believe the intention (as opposed to the possible effect) of this legislation is sinister? Its just I kind of grew up with people who are now standing to be MP's. At what point do they become ho
- laprensa66
@laprensa66 results of luggage checks not kept in records. "An anonymous remote search of my hard drive - unknown to me - is much less invasive" disagree STRONGLY with that.
- Richard Walker
We have GOT to stop being so naive and quit giving up the inalienable rights I for one believe we are BORN with or history can and will repeat itself - or worse! In the U.S. police and other law enforcement and government agencies are already blatantly ignoring the documents this country was founded on. Tomorrow they might decide anyone who ever read X book or bought some innocuous item (to you but used for something you don't even know about) is a terrorist and round them (or us!) all up. Time to wake up!
- Internet Strategist
Slap Chop with ShamWow Vince - http://digg.com/food_dr...
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"I'm gonna slap all my troubles away every day!"
- Nathan Rein
i've been searching for a way to stop having a boring life, and i'm glad Vince has shown me the way. Vince is neat. Vince is RonCo concentrate.
- idnan
Mic helle Obama fashion blog http://www.mrs-o.org/ done by agency. http://adage.com/adages... what do you think?
i think preserving the meter of "Jackie O" wasn't worth skipping out on her name.
- idnan
"Having thousands of friends becomes 'so 2008' and defriending becomes the hot new trend" - Charlene Li, Altimeter Group
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Oh puhleeze. Dumbest prediction of the year.
- Leo Laporte
what a load of nonsense, get back in the real world people
- David Lloyd
the hot new trend is TWiT Live so get your Chrome browser over to live.twit.tv for the first new Tech Guy of 2009!
- David Lloyd
You know what is so sad? The lemmings who just joined twitter for the newest fashion and will simply de-friend since they are thus chained.
- RALPH
dumb.
- Morgan
if, by "defriending" we mean filtering, grouping, or otherwise distinguishing our interesting or useful or realworld "friends" from our geewhiz neato conversational mosh pit "friends". that made no sense. sorry, i shouldn't comment while working on something ...
- idnan
Twitter War - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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It'd be great to go back to Mac vs. PC Wars instead. Should we be encouraged that this new medium is being used by both sides to spread their views?
- Louis Gray
... or the Cola Wars...
- Johnny
How you arrange pixels on the screen can't hurt me, but real bombs and bullets can. I'd rather this be a Twitter war than a real one.
- Robert Scoble
Hackers are declaring cyber war on Israel: http://garwarner.blogspot.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
Talking is how you avoid shooting. Be nice if they had used it BEFORE they all got out their guns.
- Brian Roy
Brian: I'm not so sure about that. Talking can make people angrier and angrier and get them to the point where they are unwilling to live next to each other. The real key is to respect the people around you, even if they are different or weird. We're a long way from being able to do that.
- Robert Scoble
Which Hackers? It is just the same political motivations as any other conflict. I think "Hackers attacking...<fill in the blank>" is just commonplace now and an extension of any war.
- shanebe
The situation is that we have a terror organization (Hamas) who refuses to recognize the existence of Israel and for the past 8 years was indiscriminately launching over 5000 missiles towards innocent population. You tell me which country would have tolerated to this the way Israel did. BTW, a must view report tomorrow 10:00PM ET on Fox. A son of a Hamas founder is telling about this organization http://bit.ly/68DS.
- Nir Ben Yona
what was that star trek episode where the war between two planets was conducted all by computer? and when one side took a hit, the people just marched themselves into a disintegration chamber so the buildings and infrastructure would remain unsullied? i think microsoft is missing out on an opportunity here, hamas v. idf on xbox live.
- Karim
@Karim That's kind of insulting to everyone involved in any form of warfare. All the same, LOL.
- Chris Charabaruk
Robert: Point taken - however, separation and no dialog leads to all kinds of mayhem. It allows us to dehumanize those we disagree with. If you are talking (or even screaming at) a person you are at least required to recognize them as a PERSON. Maybe learn to hate the idea not the human who has it.
- Brian Roy
Guess I'd rather have 'em battle it out on Twitter than lob rockets at each other, but neither one seems especially productive...
- Karoli
As Obama said - we have to re-learn how to disagree without being disagreeable.
- Brian Roy
brian, we just went through an election in which a *respected*, squeaky-clean united states senator was repeatedly referred to as an "elitist," "socialist," a "communist," a terrorist sympathizer or terrorist, not to mention nigger, whose relationships threatened to, quote, "destroy the fabric of democracy." soooooo i'm really not holding out much hope for dialogue's ability to humanize the guy who just put a rocket through your living room window and blew up your children.
- Karim
@brian i'm glad to see idealism isn't extinct. where i'm from (US), we've been able to talk to and scream at several people within our own borders without recognizing them as people. we have a few more amendments and things now, but we've been pretty skilled in that regard, historically. i can't say we're more skilled than anyone else,but we're right up there.
- idnan
Karim - As I said, the dialog needs to happen before we start shooting at one another. I'm not sure I'm as much an idealist as a realist and a student of history.
- Brian Roy
How on earth can we discuss (not to mention in Twitter) things beyond our grasp: *oil*. Find a new source of energy and the war will stop.
- Toni @ NavinoT
Oil is just what keeps the US interested. The middle east situation is built up on far more than just oil.
- Chris Charabaruk
idnan - in the imortal words of grandmothers everywhere "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me". There is some wisdom in that.
- Brian Roy
@brian indeed there is. how sad is the fact that the talking to and screaming at those we don't recognize as people rarely stops with the talking and screaming. i like your history, by the way. it's prettier than what i learned.
- idnan
Nicholas Christakis on the Anthroposphere - http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009...
a brief and interesting bit about human population structure. very Big Picture.
- idnan
Fresno nerd sees a better way; student's startup promises fast Internet - http://www.physorg.com/news150...
those wacky kids and their tech startups ... are fun to watch!
- idnan
"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." - http://ambivalence.tumblr.com/post...
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Hey, did you know Stowe wears funny hats?
- Robert Scoble
A since this statement discuses people we can conclude....
- Todd Hoff
todd: no this statement discusses an idea. Agreed, the idea is about people, but it is still an idea. It only becomes a person when it's no longer nameless.
- Tom Ribbens
This so relevant after last night's pissing match between Winer and Scoble.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Stowe is always coming up with these gems. Great sentiment with the start of the New Year and everyone's posting resolutions lately. How does this statement apply to our notions of authority vs. popularity?
- Hutch Carpenter
I see three people named: great, average, and small :-)
- Todd Hoff
Hutch: Stowe is an authority on weird hats. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Depending on how you define great as well. Those that move history understand that it's the convergence of people, events and ideas that makes a difference. Great ideas alone do not change the world. :)
- mikepk
Stowe is always wearing weird hats: http://www.flickr.com/search... -- now, find an algorithm that would give him hat authority. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I've seen Stowe's artiste hat at TC50 and Defrag. Quite sporty on him. I couldn't pull it off. I'll grant him Artiste Hat authority.
- Hutch Carpenter
The greatest minds discuss hats. :)
- mikepk
i discuss nouns. in my opinion, great minds often don't discuss at all. this opinion has very little reasoning behind it, and is the result more of impression than consideration ... this is how you can tell i have a smallish sort of mind.
- idnan
Jumping into 2009! - http://astronomy2009.us/blog...
the US opening ceremony for the IYA is almost an event i'd attend. not quite, since i'm not fond of attending things, but very nearly.
- idnan
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