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Wow, just realizing how awesome the current version of NetNewsWire is.
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in what sense?
- dK
It's very fast, makes reorganizing a massive number of feeds quick work, has good Webkit integration. Doesn't crash, or network/memory hog like many other desktop readers do.
- Jason Wehmhoener
the killer feature for me is it's websynch (and iPhone, too) ;)
- dK
i don't know of any rss reader for windows or mac that's better. it's amazingly quick and easily customizable
- Cee Bee
Loving the iPhone version as well.
- Wes Justice
I've just started using this now too. Pretty damn good! Would be nice to be able to sync with Google Reader, but i can live without it.
- Chris Dahl
I think I'm at a point where if it doesn't sync with google reader I can't really use it. Newsgator Online just doesn't compare. Eventbox syncs with greader.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Simple Guidelines for Workday Quality Over Quantity - http://smarterware.org/669...
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good advice!
- Jeremy Zawodny
7 Ways to Land Great Consulting Work While In Between Jobs | Personal Branding Blog - Dan Schawbel - http://personalbrandingblog.com/7-ways-...
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How to build your brand when finding a job, according to Monica O'Brien!
- Tamar Weinberg
If Your City Were Nuked - http://www.neatorama.com/2009...
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H/T Mark Trapp. "CarlosLabs, a design firm based in Sydney, created a Google Maps mashup of cities around the world and what they would look like if hit by various nuclear devices. You can choose your city and then a weapon (Fat Man, Little Boy, Tsar Bomba, Asteroid) and press "Nuke it!" and then see the extent of thermal damage."
- Ontario Emperor
13 Quick tips to Make Your Blog STAND OUT from the Crowd - http://www.problogger.net/archive...
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How to Create a Blog that People Want to Read - http://www.chrisg.com/how-to-...
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I love trying out new search engines. What do SEOs and search folks think of Cuil.com?
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First take: pretty interface, poor relevance = rapid oblivion
- Bret Treasure
Well right now - "Due to overwhelming interest, our Cuil servers are running a bit hot right now. The search engine is momentarily unavailable as we add more capacity." FAIL
- Atul Arora
Matt - Following numerous threads since the launch. Almost all so far 'not even close to Google'
- Charlie Anzman
Got the "We'll be back soon" message. +1 @ Atul
- BeeLing
How does Cuil compare to Microsoft's search engine?
- Adewale Oshineye
On the other end of the spectrum, do site:http://www.cuil.com/ in Google. It has crawled the new cuil pages and they appear in the index and search results (including the unvailable page.
- Atul Arora
it doesn't seem very relevant. My blog is not indexed yet :( Is the database exhaustive enough to be meaninngfull?
- Jnuk: acidweb.fr
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try searching for your name on Cuil. Charlie Anzman has a great photo up for that
- Sidharth Dassani
Charlie/Sidharth, I don't know why some images don't match the search results.
- Matt Cutts
Nice to see you on FF! I promise not to Ban/Block/Delete you! Enjoy! lmao
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I actually quite like it, it sorts out stuff on the page in a more readable form than Google and quickly found stuff on other Sally Church's I didn't find in Google. Medical terms need writing out in full though, eg it returns zero for CML but useful stuff on Leukemia. I like the UI, it will get better with time.
- Sally Church
Seems pretty crappy to me. My search returned results for sites that have not been in existence for a year (an old index maybe?), and one of the top two results on Google search for the same term wasn't even on the first page of results for Cuil.
- Matt Devost
I really like the UI, the diversity of results, and the categories features. I think that I'll like the pictures as soon as they reliably match up to the correct search results. (I am not Kevin Scott Collins, for example.) Looks like they're having some issues crawling wikipedia given the number of broken wikipedia results I've seen. Overall relevance doesn't seem as good as Google. I'm guessing that will get better soon now that they've launched and are able to gather data from real users. My $0.02.
- Kevin Scott
It's nice to see an alternative to the usual list of results. It's clean and easy to use. The relevancy of results however isn't very good compared to Google, and in fact it's also dished up some rubbish as well. The service has been down as well today. It feels like a beta to me. Mind you, maybe it's unfair to compare to Google results really, because this is us assuming only Google can deliver the right answer.
- Ceejay
The interface is brilliant and truly fills a gap left wide open by Google (design can move beyond minimalism), Duplicate links need to be lumped together, this should improve the relevance of the searches dramatically.
- Jamie Ginsberg
Most searches I did returned a bunch of porn despite beign in safe mode. When I turned off safe mode, the adult stuff went away.
- Mike Seidle
i like the old way better
- fijidaddy
My blog wasn't in it but fortunately a chinese spammer's copy of it is.
- Sam Pullara
Matt - At this point, I'm just suckin' up all the different takes. It's already gone from interesting to just fun ?! :)
- Charlie Anzman
The results are bizarre, even humorous at times, but we need to remember what yardstick we're using to measure the results. If it gives the exact same search results at Google, some will deem it a failure because it's unnecessary. If it gives different search results from Google, some will deem it a failure because they're "not standard." My only quibble is that in my vanity search, items in my blog seem to be drawn from last year. Perhaps a database refresh is all that is needed.
- Ontario Emperor
Not impressed with cuil. Did some searches of my company keywords, results were not as smart/relevant as what I find with a google search. Also, I am not thrilled with the 3 column format, especially when the 3 columns are not aligned, which makes it hard to scan and find relevant links quickly.
- Greg Bogdan
Very long way to go. There is no real regional specific search results. The world is a bigger place than just the US. To say that they have indexed 10 times the amount of pages is also silly. The good search engines will find the good/popular sites. If a site has not been found its fair to say that it just not that good (excluding brand new sites of course) More pages will not equal better results.
- Shane Osborne
First take of cuil.com: they are not nearly prepared as they should have been at launch. It is irrelevant how many web pages they've indexed... if you can't respond to a user search query with relevant, useful results. In reality live.com does a better job than cuil.com. And we all know where live search stands.
- Pre Priyadarshane
Results didn't match my expectation (which isn't neccessarily a bad thing), but the main gripe is the layout and point size of the results page. That blocky texty boxy results style isn't easy to scan and I think the point size is too small. Speed etc is something that can be fixed with hardware so just a temporary issue I'd say.
- johan
I like the layout personally, and the categories on the right, except that the results are mostly rubbish and the categories don't actually work sometimes (links point to an error page saying there's no results). They say they're using contextual search...really? I'm not seeing it. For "Australian visas" the government website doesn't even show. The images are all mixed up, displaying logos from the wrong companies against the wrong result. Oh dear...what a catastrophe!
- Ceejay
I tried searching for diggnation and the only result on the first page actually linking to diggnation webcast was a link to episode 57. The first 2 results were wikipedia. I think they have a lot to do as far as results are concerned. Maybe this is the next big failed launch after Wikia Search
- Sidharth Dassani
The quality and depth of results seems thin and the images are just wrong. Now, if they can fix that then there are a few interesting issues, particularly from an SEO perspective. A left to right format may change the click yield for different positions. Is it as imperative to get to the first position, particularly with an F pattern eye-tracking standard. Conversely, the weight of the first page of results (text and images) makes me believe few would go deeper than page 1, increasing desire for page 1.
- AJ Kohn
Some interesting observations from Bindu Reddy - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Atul Arora
Atul, good link. In my opinion, Bindu's absolutely correct that the "Explore by Category" entries are entirely from string matches with Wikipedia category pages.
- Matt Cutts
In particular I found the description/page summary text poor. Google appears to have refined that well over the years. Cuil concentrates way too much on including the search term in the results as many times as it finds it, which makes the results look like scraped pages (even if they arean't). Truncating the titles and URLs also makes a difference to understanding what the page is...
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- Richard Crocker
The only thing i like is their presentation of search results. The relevance goes for a toss most of the time. Its interesting if you try searching for "cuil" ...check the results http://www.cuil.com/search...
- James Ramya Rajan J
The passionates vs. the non passionates - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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My answer to whether Dare Obasanjo is right or not.
- Robert Scoble
It's quite difficult to convince the non passionates about all these new technologies. The exception in my circle of colleagues at work (99% of them definitely non passionates), is linkedIn. almost all of them know and are in LinkedIn. Never used Twitter or FriendFeed, most of them don't use RSS, even! But curiously enough they are in LinkedIn - in a passive way, but they are there.
- Fernando
Your labels do not hold up under even casual scrutiny. Seriously. There are a lot of people who are passionate about Facebook and I mean very passionate. They might not be very, very early adopters, but they're very passionate. And almost none of them will read any of the blogs dedicated to social media. They're just not passionate about everything you are, but that doesn't make them non passionate.
- Robert Seidman
There are degrees to the spectrum. I don't fit Scoble's definition of a passionate, but I'm definitely far beyond the non-passionate end of the spectrum. My professional life doesn't yet align with all the social media services and I have limited personal time to invest in the space. There is a strong personal interest in this information but the time it will take to shift priorities and dedicate more to social media participation will place me in a mid- to late-adopter category.
- Sally: gift wrapper
I know people who don't really care about social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter at all yet they are far from non-passionate web users. They just use the web for the things they *do* care about - maybe it's a fan site for their favorite book/tv/movie, IMDB, celebrity gossip, wikipedia, YouTube, etc. - but it's not Facebook. They really don't see the point. I've tried to come...
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- Sarah Perez
The influence of the passionates, the hub people, the connectors is important to any stage business, but if someone wants to bypass them more power to them; my guess is tho that this approach works best for existing customers rather than growing something.
- Loren Heiny
I just used Facebook as one example in Scoble's wheelhouse. I find it a damn shame that Robert would use his leadership position to perpetuate silly labels like this. Sarah Perez is spot on. I could regale you with deeds of fans of the TV shows Jericho and Moonlight who used social media to try to get their shows back but also did good deeds along the way (blood drives, initiatives to help soldiers in Iraq, etc). These people are very passionate and they use the Internet...passionately.
- Robert Seidman
One non-computer using teacher explained they don't use the computer but own Google stock. Why? Because someone suggested they own it. This is the herd mentality lesson that many people need to understand. Passionate users are the ones who will tell others about the product. The Tablet PC never got past the passionate users because some early adopters panned it. Vista is the same way -- people criticize it but never tried it. Apple is successful because people say it is successful.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Interesting post, but I wonder if the better classification is educated versus uneducated, instead of passionate versus non-passionate. Early adopters tend to be mavens, people who are passionate about acquiring and sharing knowledge. That zest for learning drives them to seek out and explore the application of all sorts of products, services and technologies. Their passion isn’t just...
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- Jonathan Fields
While it's true that Microsoft "totally served the passionates" at the beginning, they started with the VISION of "a computer on every desk, and in every home." That took cojones back in 1976. Tactically, their market was developers; strategically, it was the whole world. There was no "passionates/non-passionates" division; there were only people who were going to get that vision sooner rather than later.
- Karim
Plumbing's "dirty little secret" is that, while the whole world wants running water, the number of people who care about plumbing and pipes is very small :-)
- Karim
Jonathan, I know several people who are extremely bright when in comes to cameras, computers, and the like, but they almost never share with others. Some of them are members of various clubs, but even with that they just are not much as conduits between people. Are they passionate? In a way, but not as communicators about what they're interested in. I think that's the difference.
- Loren Heiny
it's a great talking point but we can all agree it is not so black and white. I think there is an interaction between ease of use, percieved value, social support, and mindshare that determines what users will use what products and their respective patterns. We know far too little about this to start tossing out dichotomies but it's a good way to get the conversation started.
- Derick Valadao
Robert, I'm very glad you are making these longer, thoughtful pieces.
- Dean Terry
I remember talking to an old media journalist about this very subject back in March. She claimed blogging and podcasting was a waste of time because the audience was small. She said to go for the big money and aim for a larger audience. I don't think her and her college quite get it yet. I usually encounter this mentality from old media types.
- Chris Luckhardt
Dean: thanks, sometimes you gotta write down longer thoughts. Twitter and FriendFeed just don't satisfy every need. :-) Chris: I hear that too. Lots of people want to create avalanches but when you ask them to make snowflakes they balk at the task.
- Robert Scoble
Those that block Scoble because of 'noise' should read this piece. Ten bucks (OK fifteen .... ) says they unblock him. LONG ..but well worth the read.
- Charlie Anzman
Robert(or any blogger); If FF allowed longer posts, multiple paragraphs, some formatting (bullets for instance and maybe a few others), inclusion of graphic in posts and after post editing would you post "blog" entries here instead of your blog? (and if yes or no why?)
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: it would be a mistake to allow that here. It would destroy the gestalt.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure what gestalt it would destroy but that avoids the question
- Brian Sullivan
I would use it, sure. I use all tools to communicate with other people. That's why I'm on so many Web services.
- Robert Scoble
The perfect example of this is when I try to convince my friends to join Twitter. They say, "but that sounds exactly like my Facebook status, which is enough for me."
- Eric Florenzano
I have a feeling that for a service like Friendfeed, a mass influx of fomer 'non passionates' would be exactly what a lot of users on here would despise. Non passionates, I find, expect immediate, easy to use value. For the majority of those that I know, they would not find it here.
- Mo Kargas
This was very good. I especially liked the parts about number of users and what success looks like. It's definitely a tough nut.
- Kevin Gamble
Agree that "passionate" is the wrong term, and not only because of the abuse of English involved in writing "the passionates". It is inaccurate, as per Robert Seidman's point. Scoble's long post was good reading, but struck me as a little on the obvious side; probably it's not so obvious to the people involved in the day-to-day "web 2.x" turbulence. I'm an outsider looking in. Of course, I realize that what I just said means that I'm one of those "non-passionates" that the others have to convince to join.
- Dimitrios Diamantaras
What if someone built a platform that could connect passionate people with the people who developed the products they love. How powerful would that be? I hope very powerful...because I'm building it in my garage :) Can't wait to share.
- Ryan
Great post, Robert. I appreciate your taking the time to highlight the move back toward more thoughtful posts. This is the first time I have actually been to your blog (although I have been following you on Twitter, Friendfeed, Reader, etc. for a long time). Why? (1) The title of this post really caught my eye (2) very thoughtful and personal.
- Blake N. Cooper
"So, where do we go from here? I don’t know," - Robert, I can only do this once and once only. I'll point you to TP, the passionate imperative :)- http://www.vimeo.com/1087738... , I bet you never heard or seen this before !! LOL
- Peter Dawson
Peter: Tom Peters pointed me out in an audience one time. Love that guy. I hadn't seen this one, though. Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Scobleizer++ :)
- dave mcclure
personally, I dont like it unless its brand new.
- Sean Oliver
Robert, great post. (Re)read Malcom Gladwell's "Tipping Point" chapter 6 on the need for "translation" to happen for the gap between early adopters and early majority to be bridged. The late majority is reactive and cautious, and will take much longer regardless. But the jump to the early majority is critical or else the idea/technology will never reach critical mass.
- Alex Schleber
Inspiring post! :)
- Jemm
As a non-passionate, I can comment my main struggle at the moment with FF, FB, twitter, del.icio.us, etc. I have 6 different distinct communities (work/family/friends/kids soccer/church). It is hard for me to get any one of these groups passionate enough & tech savvy enough to engage in the conversation. And if I did, how do I segment the conversation to the interested party? My church community could care less about my tweet touting my latest work accomplishment.
- Mark Stevens
Great post, wrote about it this am.
- susan mernit
LOVE this post Robert. Totally agree with you on your decision to keep focused on “‘thought pieces’ instead of just writing about the latest shiny object”, i.e. stay away from the Echo Chamber of the blogosphere. I really like your breakdown of the “passionates” and “non-passionates” - this is a continual paradox of user classification. I am definitely a “passionate” early adopter...
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- Susan Beebe
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This is just awesome. She got about 600 new followers from the incident within 4 hours also. Sweet.
- Tamar Weinberg
Hysterical.
- Internet Marketing NJ
from feedalizr
I'd love a list of all those people just so I could unsubscribe from them. THAT is exactly what I mean when I say you define yourself by who you follow (and why you are following them). I mean, really, just because of that?
- Robert Scoble
Hmmm. I dont think there is anything wrong with following people because of an interesting event. There genreally is a catalist that sparks interest and this is certianly a unique one.
- Internet Marketing NJ
from feedalizr
I clicked on her and went back 4 Hours and found a Google Reader about a new Mega-torpedo. She got 600 followers from that? I thought it was interesting but not necessarily sharable when I saw it.
- Victor Ryden
How much less popular would her tweet have been if she'd been visiting the proctologist instead? The difference in fondness between vagina and rectum is roughly the same between tears and snot.
- Rob Sterling
Internet Marketing: now I know why I don't follow you. It's amazing that anyone will want to follow someone else just because they were having a doctor's visit during an earthquake.
- Robert Scoble
As a woman, this grosses me out. Bad enough I have to go once a year, don't want to hear about anyone else going.
- Shayna
Shayna: ditto, well said. And no, I don't want to subscribe to those folks either, to follow for that reason, that's just well... gross.
- Sally Church
Internet Marketing: It's one thing to follow people who said 'earthquake!' it's quite another to provide TMI.
- Sally Church
Why is it that everyone is cracking down on her and her followers, and no one is mentioning the fact that Cnet called her about this? Isn't that much more worthy of a bit of scorn and disgust?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Scoble is jealous because he was not the first one to report the quake! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Stupid Blogger: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Karim
@Stupid_Blogger: Well, it *is* CNET.
- Rob Sterling
I didn't follow her, but you have to wonder about all the internet pervs who did follow her as a result. I don't think she'll be tweeting that many interesting things in the future. So yes, I hear exactly what Robert is saying - you are who you follow. Granted, I follow a lot of influencers in the industry and people I know IRL, and I usually don't deviate. I still find this incident hilariously funny though.
- Tamar Weinberg
Related: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Tamar Weinberg
Megatorpedo Sinks Destroyer in One Hit - http://gizmodo.com/5030589...
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Mostly big names in that list of people who don't follow me back. Oh well, fuck em. - http://ff.deasil.com/friendv...
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I have yet to get this to work. I assume it's due to having a larger friends list than most, but the server always disconnects. As for "big names", we don't have any insight into that. Despite my being here a lot, and using the hide feature a lot, I've been cutting back on who I follow here from almost 400 to about 300. There does come a point when it makes sense to not follow everyone interesting, and rely on FOAF.
- Louis Gray
that's something i've just never cared about though i know its important to some folks - i figure i'm just listening to them if they don't want to listen to me no biggy
- mike "glemak" dunn
Louis, as of earlier today, the limit was 3,000 people in your venn diagram, any more and the list would be truncated. You're probably also hitting some sort of script execution limit, too: I only have about 500 people in my venn diagram, and it takes close to two minutes to complete. It's interesting to see the results from this: I found a good two dozen people who had been following me for months who recently unsubscribed from me, as well as a good 100 or so people I had no idea were following me.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark, yes, I'm over the limit. And even if I didn't follow anybody, I'd be over the limit. :-)
- Louis Gray
8 people you are subscribed to, 39 people who both sub to you and you sub to, 18 people who only subscribe to you. Kinda cool information.
- Bradley McSpinn
Yea. Big names are too busy to follow everyone. Except probably Scoble.
- Winston Teo
Upon further inspection, it appears that I don't tend to subscribe to people who only update via Twitter.
- Bradley McSpinn
@Mike Dunn, I don't really care much either. Just thought it was interesting. I did unsubscribe from most of them anyway, because while they do generate a lot of content, many of them don't really participate.
- Michael Hocter
even I am slowing down on following people.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for felix's app I was able to knock my subscriptions down to 434 -- still hiding profusely. The only big names I follow are the one's that follow me back, with one exception.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@bluechameleon Awww thanks
- Michael Hocter
you have to ask at some point though whether its fair that people get 10k + followers and follow 50 people in return. This is FRIENDFEED after all, not lets all follow a few elite people who couldn't care about us at all in return.
- Duncan Riley
You have to ask at some point whether people who follow several thousand other people are putting any thought into who they follow, if they just add anyone they see, and if they actually read or pay attention to the things their "friends" are writing. This is FRIENDFEED after all, not USENET.
- Jason Carreira
You can easily follow a couple hundred people, be able to follow what those people are doing, and break outside the A-list. A lot of people stopped using other social services (like RSS readers and Twitter and such), so I guess it makes sense for them to follow the people who just broadcast, and the great thing about Friendfeed is that it can accommodate those people as well as the people who want to have two-way conversations.
- Mark Trapp
Topic fragmentation again but here goes. How are you using friendvenn?
- Mathew A. Koeneker
duncan: there's no crying in friendfeed ;) mark: you nailed it, friendfeed will accommodate any desired utilization, very configurable to one way push/pull & two way participation (the other thing to remember is foaf allows for ability to see lots of popular folks items w/out having to actually subscribe to them - thus filtering their flow somewhat)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Oddly, I agree with Jason, which is rare. I work plus raise 4 kids. No nanny, no daycare. I can't follow 500 peopleand actually pay attention to what they are saying.
- Cyndy
I have a hard time just following Cyndy.
- Louis Gray
Amen, brother.
- Rodrigo Leme
from twhirl
Big names? You will get bored just reading their dribble! I think many of them stuck in reverse, "Me" But a few are fun!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
big names...as in ALL CAPS?
- leigh himel
I'm following 2551 people right now. Makes it far more interesting than following a few and it's entirely manageable if you use the hide feature right.
- Thomas Hawk
Excellent, the use of the hide functionality is finally revealed. I see no "all caps" and I like it. :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
@Leigh I was thinking just that. :) @Thomas I completely agree, I love following interesting people regardless of whether they follow back. Unlike Twitter et al, I never feel like having a larger number of follows drowns anything out.
- Steve Spalding
Compared to many of you I'm relatively boring, so I certainly don't expect lots to follow me, I'm just happy to have the opportunity to follow the interesting folks who challenge me to think and expand my knowledge.
- asiriusgeek
Anyway, I don't need the big names to follow me as well. I just need a bunch of FriendFeeders who are willing to engage in meaningful and interesting conversations.
- Winston Teo
@jjprojects most of my Twittering lately is from my iPhone. Twitterrific is my favorite client so far.
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Dude, Twinkle > Twitteriffic. :) Faster response times, location based tweet tracking, and an overall better interface. Twinkle for the win. App store. Free.
- Daniel Miessler
I installed Twitteriffic on my touch. I have to agree, it is very good
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
Twitterific is free. The ad-free version is $10
- Grant
tried twinkle. Hated it. Dumb interface design.
- Ian Betteridge
it will be interesting to see whether twitteriffic drops it's price
- h1ro
Twinkle is far superior. A logical UI for a start. And the location stuff is pretty interesting...
- Jamie
<a href=http://www.free-accesknowledge.blogspot.com>click here for more details</a>
- murad
so far liking twinkle better especially the location stuff
- Kim Landwehr
Another vote for Twinkle
- Todd
In what way is Twinkle's UI "logical"? Too much stuff in there for what should be a simple task.Plus, that background makes it look like a cheap piece of Windows 95 shareware.
- Ian Betteridge
twinkle is the new killer twitter client.
- Bob Blunk
@ Ian, how about a tab for DMs? Or by clicking on a user I have the option of following or unfollowing? Or the ability to see all of their tweets? Or how the keyboard bar doesn't try to fit 6 (!) icons onto it like Twitterific does. Or how the "write new" icon looks like the write new icon in all of the other apps on the iPhone. The refresh icons also is the standard icon used by Apple. The background is just a background. Not really the UI.
- Jamie
another vote for twinkle here, though I'm with Ian when it comes to the background. Give me clean, simple design anyday.
- jeremy ettinghausen
Twinkle is fantastic - location aware messaging is most definitely the future.
- Martin Bryant
I'll try Twinkle and Twitteriffic on my iPod Touch. At the moment I'm using iTweet.net on my iPod Touch and m.slandr.net on my N95, both are good.
- jjprojects
Seconding Twinkle. Regardless of location features it's faster than Twitterrific
- Alexander Carlill
Twitterific is ok, but Twitterlator is better and free. http://tinyurl.com/6k83zr
- Greg
Both are slow. The web is the fastest.
- Steve Rubel
@Jamie More features does not equal more logical. I gave it another go, hated the endless tabs, arrows and screens and went back to Twitterific. Simplicity makes me happy :)
- Ian Betteridge
The only think I don't like about Twinkle is that I found it for free after I had paid for Twitterific.
- Michael Markman
Twitterrific is slow. Hahlo 3.1 works better for me, even though it is a web app.
- Warner Crocker
Twinkle, no question. Its what twitterific would like to be.
- Carlos Ayala
I like Twinkle. I've liked it since the jailbroken app. I really like Hahlo though and hope they whip out an app someday. As far as this little voting thing. I vote Twinkle.
- Dennis Jackson
I am using Twinkle too, but I find I still am going back to Twitterrific.
- Robert Scoble
I prefer Twitteriffic over Twinkle too
- Sally Church
I like Twitteriffic. Not impressed with Twinkle's UI. Twitteriffic is perfectly fast on my first-gen.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Moved to Hahlo. The standalone apps weren't doing it for me and with Hahlo I can switch back and forth between Twitter, FF, and reading news. Only way to multi-task on the iPhone. ;)
- Cyndy
@ Ian... its not about more features. Its about including fundamental Twitter functionality, like follow/unfollow. Or being able to see a list of tweets a user has made. Real basic things which I can't believe have been omitted in Twitterific. Thats not to say its without merit. I love the webkit view integration and it is far prettier, but the above are key features that are needed in any Twitter client. More so than posting your coordinates to your profile anyhows...
- Jamie
Jamie, those are features I just don't need on an iPhone client. I'd rather have a clean, nice interface which doesn't get in my way, which is what i find Twinkle does. Of course, it's horses for courses :)
- Ian Betteridge
Twinkle's "nearby" search is causing it to crash on me today... Twitterific never crashed on me.
- Jason Carreira
When the nearby feature does work though, it is pretty cool.
- Brandon Titus
Cartoon: Favicon Dead Pool - ReadWriteWeb - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Here is a new cartoon from Rob Cottingham of Social Signal. Rob runs a regular cartoon blog called Noise to Signal, in which he puts in graphical form some of the big questions of the social web.
- Hisham هشام
from Bookmarklet
The Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge Method, Or, Blogging Is Flirting - http://www.problogger.net/archive...
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Is there no one more interesting than Mike Arrington? FriendFeed tells me I find him most interesting. Louis Gray is still #2. Who is your most interesting FF'er according to FF stats?
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louis gray is #1 on my list (eric rice #2) - i don't sub to ma though get his stuff via foaf sometimes
- mike "glemak" dunn
Clint Ecker is my most interesting. http://friendfeed.com/clint
- Adam Turetzky
People I find interesting Robert Scoble Thomas Hawk Steve Rubel Scott Beale Shey Louis Gray popurls Leo Laporte Kevin Rose michael arrington
- Andrew Smith
Louis Gray, You, T. Hawk, Queen of Spain, Hutch, Shey, Michael May, Technosailor, Tac Anderson and Michael Fruchter - although I have a feeling if Mona N keeps it up she may make the list soon - the expected camera phone pic of her in the emergency room with her fist in her mouth will probably be the tipping point ; )
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Louis is my #1, followed by Steven Hodson
- Colin Walker
mine would be Corvida
- (jeff)isageek
My top three: David Recordon, Robert Scoble, Michael Arrington
- John McCrea
Mona N, with you, Louis Gray, and Chris Pirillo tied for #2. http://flickr.com/photos...
- Hao Chen
My top three according to FF stats: 1) Scoble 2) Arrington 3) MG Siegler
- Mike Doeff
edythe, Ontario Emperor, and Louis Gray (in that order)
- Mark Trapp
PS. Mike slowly dropped off my top 10 list.
- Hao Chen
Louis Gray, Alexander van Elsas
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
@laughingsquid and @l0ckergn0me
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
Hmmm, I am wondering when I will see a name I am not following yet.
- Robert Scoble
benjamin golub, then gray, then edythe.
- felix
You, followed by @possible248.
- xero
top 3: michael arrington, engtech, Maki
- Ryan
@steppek, @thomashawk, @scobleizer in that order.
- Mike Wills
I'm not even following Mike Arrington ;)
- Colin Walker
Mike is not in my list. Mine begins like Marco's: Louis Gray, Robert Scoble and T. Hawk.
- Alejandro
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, Dave Winer, Corvida, Caroline (Vixy), Steven Hodson, Bwana McCall, Andy C, Susan Reynolds, Erin Kotecki Vest (Queenofspain).
- Ontario Emperor
I'm sorry to say this here, I swear I'm not showing off, but NoiseRiver tells you for real if someone may interest YOU! :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
LG and you.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I need web stats to tell me who's interesting?
- Michael Markman
People you find interesting Duncan Riley Louis Gray michael arrington Robert Scoble Charlie Anzman Chris Baskind MG Siegler Paul Buchheit Mark Trapp Kevin Hessel
- AJ Kohn
loren feldman is at the top of my list
- Zach Underwood
I have a close one but, Scoble wins for #1 spot today. My own boyfriend comes in second. Oh dear.
- Candace
Muhammad Saleem, you Mr. Scoble, Jeremiah Owyang, MG Siegler and Duncan are my most interesting.
- Ben Parr
Numbers 1,2 and 3:Thomas Hawk, Scott Bourne and Robert Scoble but It's a close race.
- Bob Gannon
Robert Scoble, Paul Buchheit, Steven Hodson, michael arrington, Duncan Riley, MG Siegler, April Buchheit, Benjamin Golub, Frederic, Bret Taylor
- Louis Gray
Thomas Hawk by far, but Mona N. is catching up
- Justin Korn
Louis is way ahead of the rest , Corvida, Steve Rubel and Scoble are fighting for being the second best
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Of course the Mister...Thomas Hawk!!
- Mrsth
Neil Saunders ... http://friendfeed.com/neilfws ... My top 10 has none of the people mentioned above :)
- Deepak Singh
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, Duncan Riley
- Charlie Anzman
I keep looking at my own stream on FF. Is that anti-social media? Myopic Media? What did I just say media? ;-)
- Dean Terry
You're second to my husband, Robert. ;) My top 4: Tad Donaghe, Robert Scoble, Louis Gray, Corvida
- Lindsay
Robert Scoble, Louis Gray, Mike Arrington, Bwana McCall, l0ckergn0me, Scott Beale, MG Siegler, Steve Rubel, Duncan Riley
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
lol @dean terry
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Edythe, T Hawk, L Gray, Scoble, Emporer, Patton, Rubel, Covida, McCall and Arrington.
- Russellreno
You, then Chris Pirillo, Duncan Riley, Louis Grey, and someone who has apparently blocked me -- the wretched bastard! ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, l0ckergn0me, Steve Rubel, Steven Hodson, Dave Winer, Loic Le Meur, Charlie Anzman, Shey (although this list tends to change fairly frequently)
- Duncan Riley
my top five, in order: edythe, Dave Winer, Scott Beale, Duncan Riley, Robert Scoble. Wow, edythe is my #1!!
- Anthony Citrano
Michelle Miller, edythe, Mona N, Ryne Nelson, Erin Kotecki Vest
- Roger Benningfield
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, Steve Rubel, Brad Coy
- Morgan
Edythe, Sacca, Paul Buchheit, hunter walk, Ginger Makela, RAPatton, Dick, Russellreno, Louis Gray, Mitchell Tsai.
- Casey
Mine is (heh) Kevin Rose, then Alex Albrecht. Hmm? This doesn't surprise me whatsoever.
- Lise
You are my most interesting person according to FF, but I'm a new member so that could change...
- Brian Wilson
Mine are: Louis Gray, Paul Buchheit, Eric Eldon, Frederic, Robert Scoble, Scott Beale, Bret Taylor, Steve Rubel, Jess Lee, Steven Hodson
- MG Siegler
Mine is an interesting mix of photography and tech. In order: Thomas Hawk, Louis Gray, JA Castillo, Brian Auer, Mathias Pastwa, Robert Scoble, Eric, Raoul Pop, directeur, Chris Nixon
- Michael Hocter
edythe, ontario emperor, cecily walker, RAPatton, and Kyle Hebert.
- Jason Toney
l0ckergn0me,ijustine, Veronica, and Robert Scoble are my main interests according to FriendFeed. :)
- Daynah
Mona N : (http://friendfeed.com/monasfe...)
- Steve Isaacs
I've realised I can't possibly do justice in a finite list, But; three people whose stuff I can't ignore: Karim, Edythe, Thomas Hawk.
- Parth Awasthi
My top 5 (according to FF stats): Louis Gray, Steven Hodson, Robert Scoble, Colin Walker, and Jeremiah Owyang
- Mark Dykeman
Steve Rubel, l0ckergn0me, Robert Scoble, Tad Donaghe, Duncan Riley
- Rich
In order: Robert Scoble, Steve Rubel, Louis Gray, Jeremiah Owyang, Michael Arrington, edythe, mrsth, Michael Gartenberg, Dave Winer, Scott Beale
- Thomas Hawk
My top 4: Robert Scoble Louis Gray michael arrington Bret Taylor
- Alex Hammer
(1) Robert Scoble (2) Louis Gray (3) Thomas Hawk (4) edythe (5) Corvida (6) Michael Arrington (7) Paul Buchheit (8) Hutch Carpenter
- Mitchell Tsai
Blog commenters can be funny. I wonder if they think they're being subtle.
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Let's put it this way: on-purpose humor requires a modicum of self-awareness. The other? Not so much.
- colleen wainwright
I agree. Is that too subtle?
- Scot Duke
Most the time I would say they are too scared to be honest.
- Robert Gonzalez
Comments are just an expression of the moment - but they linger - and new commenters may think they are being subtle, or funny, in that moment. I forget that some times; the moment lasts as long as that database is online.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Absolutely, commenters are sometimes funny. Once I wrote about services that offer online medical consultation (http://tinyurl.com/6zht66) and now I get plenty of comments like "hello, I was diagnosed with toncillitis on Monday and ...
- Berci Mesko, MD
i'm not sure why everyone here went to godaddy. i don't like them. never have. i recommend namecheap. i got tamar.me from there.
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Honestly, I don't think you were ever in any danger of NOT getting tamar.me ;)
- Nathaniel Payne
I tried to get tamar.me, but it was already taken.
- Louis Gray
Did you manage to get louisgray.me?
- Nathaniel Payne
Nope. No interest. I am not getting that or .info or .tele or .tv or .biz or .nonsense.
- Louis Gray
I didn't buy any .me domains.
- Thomas Hawk
I would have gotten one if they weren't $20 :P
- Nathaniel Payne
yeah tamer is a little different from trying to get chris :-)
- Chris Harris
GoDaddy will be making a killing off of cybersquatters who also require the "privacy" option :)
- Aviv
Not just $20 but a 2-year registration minimum = $40 / domain!
- Morton Fox
Well, someone already emailed me and asked me if they could buy http://tamar.me. So.... I put up content on http://tamar.me.
- Tamar Weinberg
I'm with you, TW. Not sure why so many dislike Go Daddy & didn't find alt sites
- George Bounacos
If I were a new FriendFeed user, and I were automatically signed up to the noisiest people, w/all their sites, I'd be dead. There should be a "FriendFeed Lite" for first-timers that shows only blogs, Flickr and the basics, and then you try "Medium" and "Firehose". Don't scare away the newbies.
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Rawr!
- Bwana ☠
Trial by fire, I say!
- Bradley McSpinn
Yeah it can be pretty over whelming at first... but most tools like this are... I guess.
- Adrian Nadeau
Maybe someone should put together some themed rooms for newbs and newb graduates
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
i say jump on in the water's warm!
- Morgan
They should join the same way my dad says he was taught to swim. Just jump in, if you make it, YAY; if you don't... ;)
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
I've been here for a few weeks and would have freaked out if I signed up to the intense users. I feel like I'm slowly getting the hang of it, adding people a little at a time, and participating more and more...
- Corie
Don't scare the newbies! scare the devs! MORE API! repeat after me: MORE API ! :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
A newbie coming to FF will have their lists populated by their friends, first and foremost. That kind of goes to the point of the name, I think. There's no reason they WOULD sign up for the noisiest people.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
I'm only here for the Twitter.
- Cyndy
That's not true at all. I came here because of one person who told me about it. Other than that, I knew no one and couldn't get any friends to join.
- Corie
I'll be franck: I'm building in my small and humble sorcerer's lab a smarter "recommended page" that when optimized will be the cure for noise! Hear me Scobleizer? :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
agree with Louis, I guess for many there must be too much noise, so that they can't even think of a thing to say themselves
- Peter Efland
I signed up for a lot of noisemakers because i didn't have any friends who would join. I still hide a lot, a LOT. But I do think that the recommended page should be geared towards a variety of interests other than 'how to write a blog' and 'twitter wahhh' and 'iphone blahblah.' Rooms need exposure and love.
- sergiooo
They also need an automatically scrolling version to make it look like something REALLY important is happening in real time.
- Mike Seidle
@Peter Efland (phefland): I dunno, there seems to be quite a lot of folks saying quite a lot all the time. They just have their own insular environments / friend nets which yours (and mine, likely) don't necessarily intersect. Beyond that, as I've said elsewhere, if you own a theatre why does everyone have to be an actor all the time? An audience is not just good, it's necessary.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
@sergiooo: I like the " 'how to write a blog' and 'twitter wahhh' and 'iphone blahblah.' " :-) More of that coming soon.
- Louis Gray
Deep dive or nothing
- Dave Martin
Good suggestion. I am on firehose setting for now... but I am here INSTEAD of Twitter. :-)
- David Muir
@alexander williams: True - good comment
- Peter Efland
@Alexander Williams (squidlord): Totally agree! very wise!
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Why not give newbies the opportunity to view a short intro-to-FF clip, perhaps narrated by LG, showing them the basics. Things like how to follow/stop following people, the hide feature, etc. Having a basic understanding of how to use the service and being signed up with one or two noisier, not the noisiest, people seems reasonable.
- Dan Boggs
Louis, shock therapy worked wonrders for me. If I hadstarted with the light version, I would not be so psyched about it.
- Rodrigo Leme
from twhirl
@Luis Gray :) I'm not saying those feeders shouldn't be recommended, just that there is a whole world outside of the few topics that are so well represented, and if the goal is some sort of mainstream acceptance a bit of diversity deserves the same opportunity.
- sergiooo
LOL...good one. I started using FF a few weeks ago and find myself spending alot more time reading, commenting and looking around than on Twitter. Much more interactive and engaging.
- Geoff Peterson
I had mentioned in another post that it would be great if you could individually select the portions of one's feeds to have piped in. That way you could open up the fire hose and skip what you have not interest in (i.e. last.fm posts, etc).
- JA Castillo
I thought FF was a cult =(
- Mona Nomura
I need FF Lite some days, too. LOL
- Sarah Perez
Got outa control myself and made a mess ... Finally back. This is Louis right ?? :)
- Charlie Anzman
Sink or swim
- Internet's Tad
FF lite: Putting friends on a diet. LOL
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I quickly put together that Scoble and Laporte = Noise, so I discovered the Hide feature. Then I closed off the Friend of a Friend bit. Bam! It was readable again. Now I just follow too many interesting people to keep track of everything. I get about 11 pages worth a day.
- xero
yes, it would be easy to say 'What are you interested in' on sign up. From there filter specific services and... oh yah, KEYWORDS!
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
FF lite: subscribe to just the a-listers. :O
- Hao Chen
Interesting idea on FriendFeed Lite, they would have to subscribe to a lot of people to be overwhelmed though right?
- Joe Dawson
I'm a newbie and I'm already overwhelmed! All it takes is adding two crazy FF'ers and joining two active groups.
- Judy L. Lin
Along those lines I'd like to control which users I promote from my profile too. See this http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mark Krynsky
Perhaps FF should have an equivalent of Twitter Packs (http://twitterpacks.pbwiki.com/) that could be offered to newbies.
- Andy Murdoch
An easy and non-obtrusive way to implement would be a simple checkbox on reg path that says "Start out with just blogs, flickr, etc... You can add more services to your FF anytime!" And new users must opt-in for that "light" service
- Eric Berlin
lmao - that's actually a great idea
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Nah...throw them in the deep end and see how well they swim
- Live4Emma (L4S)
But that's the whole point of FF isn't it? To swim and survive in the sea of "noise"..
- Winston Teo
took me about a week or so to fine tune my likes with others after adding to my feed without interaction. at first it can be a bit overwhelming, especially with the nonsense about "a-listers" and this and that, but you find your niche no matter what
- Cee Bee
Maybe make one of the best of the day/week/month thingies the default for newbies?
- Rudolf Olah
LEWL.
- Brandon Klevence
The Truth about Web Navigation - http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog...
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21 Ways to Make Your Blog or Website Sticky - http://www.problogger.net/archive...
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completely freaked out the straight guy at the end of the lunch table whilst discussing just how gay UFC matches really are
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lol :)
- Yuvi
Not gay enough! It's all foreplay.
- Rick Powell
The Thing about those fighters is that they've heard it all before a million times and are over it. They just wanna tussle.
- Mauricio
Ginathat is soo funny you said that. My wife pointed that out recently.
- Internet Marketing NJ
from feedalizr
There's nothing gay about two sweaty dudes in tights rolling around on the floor together. Wait, let me rephrase that. :)
- ha3rvey (chee-la-key-les)
Social Media Experts are the New Webmasters - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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enjoyed the career advice to hang on to teaching or marketing skills even if giving in to today's trendy title.
- MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
somebody was trying to get me to apply for a job with the title "webmaster" today! It was with a .wa.gov.au prison department, but we are not really that far behind here. One the other hand web 2.0 social media expert for prisons is not a job I would relish either.
- Nick Cowie
Excellent as always Louis, I really like the "What do you really do?" part. We do have to focus on what social media brings to a real business, not just on how exciting it is to constantly refresh Twitter and FriendFeed.
- Svetlana Gladkova
I love this post -- felt this way for a while and I'm sure others have too. No doubt you'll get some of the "Social Media Experts" giving you flack for it. "Web browsing expert" LOL!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I remember webmasters :) If the newer 'social people' could only bury that hatchet with some of the 'old guard', this whole environment would be a better place.
- Charlie Anzman
It happended the same with Information Technology in the 80/90s. I guess there is a lifecycle typical of new technology roles: at first they are prominents in applying new technolgies to business. After some times the technical knowledge is not so exclusive anymore, and you start to look for more managerial approaches, roles and resumes. Finally the specific tech wisdom become a commodity. That's ok to me, just beware and avoid to be caught in the lifecycle commodity trap
- Marcello Del Bono
agreed, good post - early days of the web - webmaster was a multi-functional jack of all things internet role: root/superuser, sysadmin, netadmin, html dev & graphic oversight all rolled into one - as teams that supported websites matured fragmentation of roles occurred for all the right reasons - webmaster at that point was usually the single point of contact into the property behind the website, especially for reporting web related bugs & for routing of inquiries - normal transitional maturity
- mike "glemak" dunn
"I'm afraid that for the most part, their efforts to rebrand as social media experts will be short-lived and futile. Saying one is an expert in utilizing social media sites is akin to brand one's self as a 'Web browsing expert', an 'e-mail expert', or a 'telephone specialist'." That's pretty funny.
- Hutch Carpenter
I Agree. Webmasters had been more than "multi-functional jack of all things internet". To most people that did not know too much about filesystems, servers and the like, they were short of magicians (cf. Clarke's Third Law). But is the rise of social media that much about technology? I don't think so. It's more about pushing technology in the background. It's about getting rid of the magicians. So, just being able to set up a blog within a few minutes will very soon lose the magical aura.
- Benedikt Koehler
The funny thing is that I - as someone who spends a significant piece of my day managing this stuff for my firm - get forwarded job postings for "Social media manager" or other such titles for $125k +. Clearly people are landing themselves jobs in marketing/PR departments with this title. How long will their jobs last?
- sarahlefton
@sarah Felix America! In Germany I have not yet seen job postings for Social Media Managers. Unfortunately.
- Benedikt Koehler
Lijit Throws Ads Onto My Site - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/lijit-t...
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Whoops. Damage control time, Lijit team! :-)
- Louis Gray
as I said in my comment Chris from the conversations I have had ave with Micah is that this will be an opt-in service and a planned revenue sharing between Lijit and bloggers
- Steven Hodson
Steven - I noted your blog post was up, but didn't get to read it yet. But was it then a fluke that it showed up?
- Chris Brogan
When Micah presented at last New Tech Meetup he said you ether accept that there are ads and get rev share or uninstall, there is no opt out (or in)
- Stepan Mazurov
I have an ad showing up as well.
- Kenya
@Aaron - thanks. I appreciate the follow-up.
- Chris Brogan
I've got the ads on my wijit too. What's the story?
- David Petar Novakovic
from twhirl
Friendfeed doesnt allow for long comments. So Check out my reply to Chris (and everyone) at http://www.chrisbrogan.com/lijit-t.... As always, feel free to email me at micah@lijit.com or call my cell at 720-231-7120.
- Micah Baldwin
BTW, has anyone noticed that on Chris' site that the time/date stamp for the friendfeed comments is Dec 31, 1969? I feel so summer (I guess winter) of love, man...
- Micah Baldwin
I'm not sure why that is. My site date-stamps posts and comments right. WTF? : )
- Chris Brogan
I think its because your blog remembers December 31, 1969 as a good year. Didnt you turn 30 that year? ;)
- Micah Baldwin
7 Cheats for Hitting The Front Page of Digg - http://www.cracked.com/blog...
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"Are you tired of your awe-inspiring article, mind-shattering blog entry or rambling anti-government manifesto not getting the web traffic you know it deserves? Did you add a “Digg It” button to that brilliant epic poem you wrote about your recently-deceased cat, Twinkie, but nobody seems to be clicking it? Are you starting to suspect that MS Paint drawing of Draculanana might not be funny enough to make it to the front page of Digg after all? Think again."
- Maki
from Bookmarklet
Great find. Off to kidnap Kevin Rose.
- Stephan Miller
I think there is another way to get to Kevin Rose! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
weird
- k00pa
Someone made a comment about the quality of my shared items from Google and called it 'a blog within itself'. I'd love to do something more with my shared-items-as-publication, but oh the can of worms. What IF someone's collected media becomes strong by itself?
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Check out Eyebeam's Reblog software. Also, Scoble's shared items feed is more useful to me than Techmeme, imho.
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
One example of a strong curator is Anarchaia: http://anarchaia.org/
- Adewale Oshineye
I've been thinking a lot of that. I started using the Shared Items a lot more when I saw that it was being archived http://www.google.com/reader... The URL sucks srsly tho. It'd be great if you could map it to a subdomain or something.
- Clay Newton
I kinda like the one click that I do in Google reader.. I've thought of reblogging but that made me feel like a lazy ass thinking it's too much work. Heh. Anarchaia's is nice tho
- Eric Rice
wow, that's cool Eric! I would imagine that you'd produce a nice collection of goodies. Perhaps those could be aggregated into a feed "service" and displayed somewhere for conversation/community.
- Susan Beebe
Better to point people to the original than republish. Sharing here or in G Reader works well for that, so why do something more?
- Annie Boccio
Annie: because it could be a magazine unto itself. It's something coherent, it's my brain as editorial director. I don't HAVE to 'share/publish' the stuff, but I do so because it's important, and also a bookmarker for me. There are those that don't want to run all over hell and back chasing the originals. That's the value in having an editor, or um, 'filter' is the PC term now.
- Eric Rice
I like using the Friendfeed bookmarklet when I feel the urge to share a little bit more than just the title of the post. It really only takes a couple seconds longer than the single click in greader. (I still do the greader share for some less interesting things though)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, yeah I feel more immediacy when I click the "Share on FF" thing than if I share in Reader. I have bookmarklets for both, but apparently, I'm making an editorial decision. Why did I share on FF the article about Apple DRM, instead of Noting it in Google Reader? My gut just sorta told me to.
- Eric Rice
Making a new thread on this...
- Eric Rice
I find myself gravitating towards FF over GR sharing. It's just happening.
- Sean McBride
@melmcbride: Love the term "Feed DJ's." Eric: The person bringing/sharing/aggregating an amazing assortment of news usually has more "top of mind" with me than the actual news source.
- Jason Evangelho
@melmcbride, I want to be an Information Disc Jockey. Where are my Information Discs? xD No, seriously, I like Feed DJ, I can relate.
- Jason Wehmhoener
lol Feed DJ is an awesome term. @Eric Rice: why is it an "or" choice? your greader notes get imported here no?
- Mario Romero
Eric, how would that work exactly? You can't just republish other people's work on another site without permission.
- Annie Boccio
@mario I dunno, that's what I'm questioning.. why do I choose some items over others to share here (NOW) vs. greader (later, lag, etc).. @Annie, well, but it IS published without permission. Look at this link: http://www.google.com/reader... and god bless all the DEMAND FOR FULL RSS, because you don't have to leave and read elsewhere. But see, I'm not DOING it, it's just the structure. Organizing it coherently and selling ads against, sure, that's a bit diff.
- Eric Rice
Annie Boccio: You can if they offer a feed for syndication, that's what they're for and that's what google reader and the rest do. The permission is implicit in the open feed.
- Mario Romero
This is also related to the big Seesmic discussion. Seesmic isn't private, it's private to use. It has functionality for non-public communication. Any video can live anywhere, be linked to, and access to that never comes close to the TOS. If it is so important Seesmic vids never leave Seesmic, then there needs to be a feature to make videos un-embeddable, like Youtube. Of course, that's a technical solution to a social issue but at least intent is there. Until then, the TOS is completely moot outside.
- Eric Rice
Eric, I've been developing a project for a bit now to create a virtual blog within Google Reader. I need to sit down and map out all the ramifications but it will be interesting if I can pull it off.
- Phil G
J.Phil: Maybe an RSS importer with some layout properties, like Greasemonkey or something.
- Eric Rice
Well, that's the thing, I could see it more as "the oracle speaks" sort of deal. Perhaps a web site with a google talk URL to add the blog to your friends list in greader, or maybe not even that --- 'seed' it with a bunch of people you trust, maybe work out some sort of arrangment where multiple people can blog, make it viral. The only way it shows up is through shared items.
- Phil G
if you like, I am happy to chat with you about it, pglockner on google talk
- Phil G
Ah,my head! I see what you're saying, but I still don't see much of a benefit over sharing in FF or gReader. I guess there are some who would go to yet another site just to see what Eric is reading these days... :)
- Annie Boccio
Actually I find myself using GReader and going to interesting posts at their native location and then sharing to FF. Just need to watch the time thingie...
- Mark Forman
Annie - well, it's still conceptual, so to speak, but yeah.. I hear ya. I think the viral element would be the kicker. I'm not a marketer but I could find a good hook, either a dynamite blogger or contest or target it at the perfect demigraphic, I think it could be a lot of fun.
- Phil G
I *love* your shared items. I think it's a blog. I think that if it were its own standalone destination for conversations (maybe just do the friendfeed integration), I'd be on it all the time. Better than BoingBoing, and no, not as a 1:1 example of the content. I've been digging it for months and months.
- Chris Brogan
After I slept on it, I think I use the Friendfeed Share if I think it will have more activity 'now' and maybe has a little urgency. Since my Google Shares still come up here, that's more of a River of Me (lol runs through it), and that might no warrant discussion. It shows up later (and around elsewhere like Facebook). I need a bot to keep track on what things I share here :)
- Eric Rice
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