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I just fixed a broken Canon inkjet printer and now feel something between hacker and hero.
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God, who outsourced the job of running earth to a species called humans, just announced an end to that business relationship.
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"After the initial trial period of a couple of thousand years," says He, "It became clear to our staff following the recent climate conference that this isn't really working out. That being said, we're proud of the achievements of humanity, and wish them all the best." Sources close to God were unavailable to speak on record, but indicated that pollution wasn't the only reason for God's move. Says one source, "He also really, really didn't like Full House."
- Philipp Lenssen
ROFL! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Well said
- Tom Awtry
The view from our house this morning. This is Palo Alto, not Tahoe!
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WHOA! I am excited to be going to Sydney (in the airport now), but very sad I missed this whole snow-thing in the bay area! :(
- Adam Lasnik
holy cow!!!
- Jenna Bilotta
Maybe a little too alto
- j1m
F####ing beautiful.
- Павел Романовский
I moved to Michigan one month too early... and it hasn't even snowed here yet!
- Karl Rosaen
from Android
Just moved to Brisbane from Mountain View, and cleaning ice from the windshield this morning I though was it the right move? Now I see there is not too much difference half an hour south from here. At least we don't have snow outside. :)
- earlyadopter
OMG. your house... uhm.. speechless. (more photos pls :)
- Jenna Bilotta
Take that, times about 10" and that's what I'm looking out of my window today (blech!)
- Jesse Stay
+1 Jenna: I want a view like that from *my* back window.
- Joel Webber
Joel, you should move to Utah :-)
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse: I hear it's beautiful out there too. I love Boulder (my grandmother lives there), and the mountains of western CO, which I imagine has something in common with it. But I'd have to drag 8-ish family members out there with me :(
- Joel Webber
The great thing about Salt Lake City is all the ski resorts and mountain areas are all part of the city, or within 15 minutes from the city. Or, just 30 minutes East you have Park City, which is beautiful in and of itself. Cost of living in SLC is typically very low compared to Palo Alto or Boulder, too - very compatible for tech startups.
- Jesse Stay
Nice view !!!
- Sachin Shekhar
Nice house. Hope you bring girls back there on the regular or you're wasting your mortgage payments. I'm just saying ... shit taking chicks back to a view like that would be guaranteed action if it were me. Look, I had to say it, OK? Stay warm
- LANjackal
Seit wenigen Minuten kann ich meinen Stromverbrauch in realtime beobachten. #StromzaehlerMitInternetAnschluss Ist das funky... #nerdHeaven
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Habe aufgehört zu zählen, wie oft ich meiner Tochter abends Gute Nacht sagen muss. #Verzoegerungstaktikerin
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escaped ikea with just enough purchases. realised I am quite a snob and don't like 95% of what they sell.
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Cool Stuff: Darth Vader Hot Air Balloon | /Film - http://ffffound.com/image...
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"Google wants developers to build for the open web. Microsoft wants developers to build for Silverlight" - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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& Adobe wants devs to build 4 Flash & AIR, so what's your point?
- LANjackal
Sarah Lane's Tumor Ruin: All Signs Point to No - http://www.sarahlane.com/blog...
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fan-bloody-tastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Simon Bryan
from twhirl
:) That just made *my* day, and I don't even know you. Hope springs eternal.
- Dave Friedel
Congratulations, we are praying for a full recovery.
- Sean OBrien
it's 2009. technology allows me to broadcast the fact that i am tired. And for my mother to suggest a nap. IN REAL TIME. hooray technology!
Jérôme Flipo, David Schmidt, Paul Buchheit and 4 other people liked this
got a special hello on the plane from a flight attendant who uses Dopplr and knows @crucially. overwhelmed.
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@springfever Eh, if my only real claim to fame is that I haven't grown since 1989.. well. I'll take your puberty kit.
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Hey, I'm an artist, I'd like my own stream of my track (and not lalas) to show up first on a google search - where do I sign up for that?
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There was a lot of chatter about the future of FriendFeed this weekend. The short answer is that the team is working on a couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world. Transformation is not the end. Consider this the chrysalis stage -- if all goes well, a beautiful butterfly will emerge :)
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What is transforming... FriendFeed, or the idea of FriendFeed?
- Christopher Galtenberg
Thanks for the update, Paul!
- Anne Bouey
THANK YOU!
- tehKenny, Dork
Fabulous News :)
- Susan Beebe
Noticed the "leaked" Facebook UI screenshots and the groups blog post today, and both seem FriendFeed inspired: nice to see Facebook trying to bring the stuff we like about FriendFeed to a larger audience.
- Mark Trapp
To Robert Scoble: I told you so ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Mark - got link?
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Paul :)
- ashish
Devil is in the details: "couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" == Facebook projects with FriendFeed-like elements == no work on FriendFeed itself.
- EricaJoy
Paul, FriendFeed rocks as Gmail does ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Thanks for the update, the more you communicate, the less we have to speculate.
- Peter Hoffmann
The fact that these improvements are coming to Facebook and not friendfeed will not sway those who like friendfeed but dislike Facebook.
- Alex Scoble
Thank you Paul for bringing "FriendFeed goodness to the larger world" -- THAT sounds awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
integration with facebook?
- Rocco Galluzzo
@Alex Scoble: That's true
- Jorge Escobar
I hope out of the chrysalis emerges an infested Kerrigan. That'd be awesome http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki...
- Ivan Kirigin
Thanks Mark, much appreciated... I'll check those out
- Susan Beebe
+1 Ivan :)
- Benjamin Golub
But we knew this was the deal the moment the full details of the purchase of friendfeed by Facebook became public.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, I don't give a crap about Facebook. I want to know about FriendFeed.
- Rochelle
Is it the interface people dislike about Facebook or the people they're friends with on Facebook? I can imagine being able to import all your subscribers from FriendFeed and have them in a separate group that doesn't interact with other groups you may have on Facebook.
- Cristo
sadly, no one with any power seems to care about FF anymore.
- Joe Silence
I'm glad to hear this. I prefer FriendFeed to Facebook any day of the week.
- Nathan Clayton
And the answer for me would be some of both. I have real life friends and family that I don't necessarily want to get into the same discussions with as I do with people here.
- Cristo
And there's your answer, Rochelle. friendwho? friendwhat now? Oh, you mean Facebook! (No I mean friendfeed) friendwho? (rinse, lather, repeat)
- Alex Scoble
there are some ui differences (and i tend to prefer friendfeed in those cases) but i have friended quite a few FF people in FB and the experience is remarkably similar in many ways.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Another big difference is I don't think you get the same FOAF interaction on Facebook as on FriendFeed.
- Cristo
yep
- Jason Wehmhoener
I hope my FaceBook peeps are ready for the FriendFeed firehose ... past experience would say that they're in for a shock.
- Crutis
Thanks for the transparency on the Friendfeed "ghost town" matter Paul. Much appreciated.
- Alex Knight
Thanks Paul... bring the special sauce to Facebook: http://blogs.zdnet.com/weblife...
- Andrew
I like the "chrysalis stage" analogy - sounds cool.... goes an looks for FF goodness butterfly!
- Susan Beebe
Good to know that FriendFeed still has some fight left; hope that translates into a viable and sustainable platform/utility for the masses (though I quite enjoy the close-knit, uber-geek community that it's become).
- Christian
I don't like the chrysalis analogy. The butterfly emerges from the chrysalis and buggers off leaving the shell. Of course, it might then also get eaten by a bird. Tweet, tweet.
- Mark H
Mark LOL nice, ... haha
- Susan Beebe
Note that he didn't say that FriendFeed.com was going away, only that they're diverted to bringing it to a much larger audience
- Jesse Stay
The problem is Scoble (Robert) and MG both just sent half of FriendFeed away so most of those that would benefit from this announcement won't even see it.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I didn't get that from Paul's comment. I read that some of the friendfeed ideas will be going into FB. I like that idea, but I still prefer FF to FB because of the different conversations here that I don't have with friends and family.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Yeah, Paul's statement won't help friendfeed. This will just either give people more reason to go to Facebook or find another service entirely.
- Alex Scoble
What Alex and Rochelle said. This sounds like a "we're bringing FF to Facebook" announcement, and I don't give a damn about Facebook. I want to know what's happening HERE. And Cristo, both, but more the interface. I care about the friends I've made here, and I'm connected with many of them now on Facebook as well, but I prefer to interact with them here, because I like it better.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Travis, he didn't say that - you read that, but he didn't say that. I'm willing to bet FriendFeed.com will not go away.
- Jesse Stay
As much as I agree about Scoble and MG driving people away, they have also effectively flush out some comment from the FF team.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Travis, there are better ways of getting the FF team to comment
- Jesse Stay
:( I quite liked the caterpillar.
- Nick Lothian
I think it's the opposite, the butterfly is becoming this crawling caterpillar :)
- Jorge Escobar
Oh I don't think FF will go away, and damn will hope it doesn't either!
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
What I do see is more Facebook integrated into the FriendFeed environment - I think that's a good thing
- Jesse Stay
The critical difference between Facebook and FriendFeed is the social model. With Facebook as it is today, you need to be mutual friends to see each others content. There is a "fan page" model but it is oriented toward "publishing/celebrity" rather than information sharing. FriendFeed has an asymmetric model like Twitter, where you can easily discover someone's content without any "friend" gesture whatsoever, and you can follow without friending. This makes the converation more discoverable, and useful..
- Adina Levin
Agree Adina.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
If the integration is bringing public/asymmetric to Facebook, then it will be very useful indeed. If the integration is to add FriendFeed-style service integration into the symmetric/private Facebook model, it will be much less useful - it's more of the same - I'll be able to more easily share updates from youtube or last.fm or delicious to my friend network, but be unable to discover new people and infomation.
- Adina Levin
Adina: And unless Facebook goes radically toward that model, it won't suffice for me. I could not care less about their upcoming redesigns.
- Christopher A Carr
@Jesse - I can't see any sign that they are working on FriendFeed at all. All the indications are that the FF team is now working on Facebook, and only Facebook. That's great for Facebook, and I'm sure they will do wonderful work there. But don't delude yourself that FriendFeed is going to get anything more than critical fixes, and maybe the occasional thing done in someone's spare time.
- Nick Lothian
Butterflies look totally different than caterpillars and they also fly away
- Melanie Reed
Crickets chirping... is this site alive?? :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
+100 Adina. The things I like best about FriendFeed (easy content/people discovery, FoaF, asymmetrical following and being followed) are completely opposite to Facebook's core model. That's why as much as people keep talking about Facebook adding FF-like features, I don't see the REAL FF core features making it over, because the mindset is different.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't see this announcement as anything new, or as reassuring. We knew from the time of the acquisition that there would be would be some movement of FF capabilities into FB. The real question is whether this means absorption of FF into FB or attracting the FB user base into FF. The comment about "bring[ing] FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" still leaves that question open.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
+1 everything Alex Scoble has said. Friendwhat? What's a feed? Who uses RSS anymore? We've got PubSubWTFOMGBBQ now!
- Mr. Gunn
Agree with Jandy on +100 Adina.
- Amy℠
Also, I agree with Jandy and Adina's comments.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Nick, Paul just said they're working on other projects right now. That still doesn't mean FriendFeed is going away. I'm not deluding myself at all. I'm telling everyone else they're deluding themselves by assuming it's going away. All the FriendFeed team is still using FriendFeed, and Paul just tried to give us comfort not to worry. For some reason we all don't want to believe him. It's actually kind of amusing.
- Jesse Stay
I wonder what the powers that be mean by "FriendFeedy goodness"? Is it understood what WE like about it vs. FB?
- Amy℠
Paul - Wishing you all the best as you tend your new butterfly garden :) I'll be here to enjoy them!
- Susan Beebe
Jesse: "For some reason we all don't want to believe him." <-- Don't want to believe what? He didn't really say anything.
- Christopher A Carr
This is not the news that Friendfeed fans were looking for.
- raphaeL
The issue isn't belief that they are going to do something. The question is what they are going to do, and whether that will continue the core value of FriendFeed, which is not just information aggregation but discoverability.
- Adina Levin
I know more about the "Last Days" and heaven than I know about what's going to happen to FriendFeed as we have come to know it than was given in your rather cryptic answer, Paul. :) And while that may not be a fair comparison (God actually gave details and signs), there is something definitely not forthcoming about your response. A person usually withholds details that affect another...
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- Melanie Reed
Melanie, in other words, Paul works for a technology company in Silicon Valley that doesn't disclose future features, products, and services until they are ready.
- Cristo
Hopefully this helps to quiet all of the "friendfeed is dying" talk. Because this thread proves ff is alive and well.
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Jesse - I read it differently to you. To me, Paul is saying "We are taking what we were working towards on FriendFeed, and trying to bring that goodness to a bigger audience". No one is claiming they are going to shut down FF.
- Nick Lothian
@Jesse - Want to make a bet on the number of new features added to FF before the end of the year?
- Nick Lothian
Cristo, to deliver some straightforward talk is not about giving away company details. If you have a product that is original and stands on its own, you don't need to refer to it as a "butterfly". Many companies even promote something new and upcoming especially to their loyal user base. It gives a signal. A proper one. It tells your users and future users enough so that they can make an informed decision about what they want to do instead of keeping them on tenderhooks
- Melanie Reed
"the chrysalis stage in most butterflies is one in which there is little movement" (via wikipedia) So if you follow that metaphor then eventually FriendFeed will go through a metamorphosis -- that means it's not dead... really how hard can it be to get what he's saying?
- Chris Heath
Its pretty hard :) The burning question is if they are putting FF goodness in to the walled gardens that are Facebook or are they bringing FF openness to FB too. I think the people here want the open forums that are FF not the closed ones that are FB. If FB is going hybrid with both walled gardens and open forums that would be OK too. People on FF want open forums... like Twitter and FF... without the crude interface that is Twitter and without the uncertainty that is FF now.
- Ed Millard
Facebook is gonna have to rip off much of the privacy to maximize their product in the real-time web world. I am going to assume FF goodness is going to be applied to FB :) *crosses fingers*
- Susan Beebe
Just a thought... why does "longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" JUST mean facebook.com? What I get from this is that they are working on a range of things, maybe bringing the FriendFeed sauce to a range of sites, powered by the Facebook back end. Who knows what that means. A FriendFeed service powered by FacebookConnect? Also to......
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- Johnny Worthington
LMFAO. Johnny++
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
FB needs to leave the privacy for the walled garden and the inner circle. Their current user base likes that. They just need a second feed that is an open forum and you can talk there without it bleeding in to your inner circle feed.
- Ed Millard
Seems like the inner circle is breaking down some now, what with parents and other relatives friending teenagers. I'm guessing the information posted on the walls these days is not as private. Is there a way on FriendFeed to limit what on your wall can be seen by particular people and groups?
- Cristo
Yes, but blocking doesn't work so well since you can just use Chrome's Incognito mode to get around it.
- Alex Scoble
Translation: if you haven't switche to Facebook yet, you better do it now so you can get a good vanity URL.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
I don't know what all the fuss is about. But could we have the long answer too, please?
- Laura Norvig
Although I'm interested, FB != FF. I don't see how the two mix in a way that makes me feel otherwise. Mixing audiences is not a good thing for me (with a few exceptions) and I know others share the same thought.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Did anyone notice that Robert Scoble didn't comment on this thread? What does this mean? Does it mean Robert Scoble won't exist soon? He must be working on a Monday afternoon, no? ;)
- Cristo
Paul, will FF be here in 1 year, 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Robert, will you and I be alive in 5 years?
- Cristo
Thanks for the update Paul..
- Chris Myles
Cristo I am funking nobody, I would like Paul to quantify his post. Simple. Will FF be here in 1 year? Will FF be here in 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Robert, I was trying to make the point that he might not know and can't predict what will happen over time.
- Cristo
IMO friendfeed shoud attract more general audience... Facebook and twitter are having more general users. Most of the FF users are tech bloggers or those who needs aggregation services... I dont know it's just my feeling or not . but this is my impression on FF. but it's great service.. the features are too good... but we will roam were we meet our friends... thats most of the people are into twitter and FB.
- Sarath
Sarath, is there a place you can get away from tech bloggers? :)
- Cristo
Ohhhh a perrrttty butterfly, I'm moist with anticipation.
- sofarsoShawn
Glad to hear it, Paul.
- WorldofHiglet
Cristo: i almost made the same observation an hour or two ago when i first read through this posting and its comments. I was skimming and kept seeing alex, alex, alex... and thinking to myself... where's Robert!?!
- Chris Heath
Great news. Thanks! friendfeed team. :D
- Francisco
@Sarath - I have a lot more in common with the people I've met here on FriendFeed than FB or Twitter. Twitter is too hard to search, and FB (and Twitter to a good extent) is driven by the people you know in RL (and unfortunately I don't have nearly as much in common in RL with my family, co-workers and acquaintences as I do with people scattered all over the world who I have met on FF)....
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I think that in his cryptic statement he means, and a lot of people here agree with me, that more Facebook's going to get more FriendFeedy. Which doesn't mean that FF still isn't dead or doomed. After all, he works for Facebook now. FriendFeed=open forum, Facebook=walled garden, totally opposite master metaphors; but I don't think Zuckerberg gets it, and FF belongs to Zuckerberg now. So this is really about FB; FF's still in limbo. Still, some FF people friended me at FB, and I put them in a special list.
- Dennis Jernberg
@FF-team keep on rocking :). BTW I also think it's really cool you guys open-sourced tornado.
- alfred westerveld
+1 what alfred said, and good to hear words like "longer-term" & "beautiful" coming straight from The Walrus - keep that vision strong. Hope all goes well for FF team doing some good re-inventing the Octopus Garden of FB - seems you've got your work cut out for you there! It would be so nice if any way to keep a "simple & pure" form of FriendFeed alive (maintained and developed - more open source?) for us to enjoy, but no worries .... you've simultaneously raised the bar and paved the way for the rest!
- Dan Freeman
Good luck with the development Paul! Hopefully Zuck has some positive insight.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I like butterflies.
- Harold Cabezas
Paul: If someone offered me a bag of money to do what you guys did, I would have done exactly the same (probably a lot faster too). However, it would be nice if you spent an hour answering some of the questions here. It might also give people like me a little more faith, in what used to be your primary project; Friendfeed. You made the best platform on the planet - why not use it to let us know what the heck's going on?
- Jim Connolly
I'm assuming that Facebook wants to keep their roadmap quiet. I respect that but leaving you community in the dark for a brand that the applications stand for community building is rather ironic.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
SUPER!! I don't Blame ya 1 Darn bit fer Dumpin' FacePOOP Paul!! ;PPP Wait FacePOOP is the Maggot Stage!! ;))
- Billy Warhol
If I can still have all my friends that I have here on friendfeed and share things with them the exact same way, I don't care what "www" address I have to type in to get it. I just hope i don't have to give up any of FF's awesome features! Thanks for the update Paul!
- David Cook
The problem is I don't know whether to wrote an app on your API or not because i'm not sure whether it will all be dropped in the "transformation". Imagine speding late nights and weekends coding something up only for it to be dropped suddenly. Need a decent long term picture. Looking at Cliqset.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
Good point Steven - and one of the reasons many of us are spending so little time developing our networks here.
- Jim Connolly
waiting....
- ffcode
ffcode: Good luck with that ;-)
- Jim Connolly
So the changes are at Facebook not FriendFeed, Paul?
- Kol Tregaskes
And good luck to all of your team
- Ozkan Altuner
from iPhone
This is a truly disappointing/concerning post and I think it would have been much better to hold comment until something more tangible could be discussed. Thanks for adding to the confusion/drama Paul.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
yemezler
- MobilAdam
I do care about what happens next, but this is the best news of the day nonetheless ! thanks for giving us updates at last ! and I do hope FF will awaken again ! such a great tool, but letdown since the announcement of the buyback by FB
- laetSgo
will I see this post in my "best of week" email from FF?
- Kirill Bolgarov
If Facebook is going to get fixed, please remember that it needs fixing politically, not just technically. It needs to give people the option to open their data to Google - for instance. A walled garden where the walls are fixed in place sucks.
- Tim Tyler
@Paul, or perhaps an Alien will erupt forth from its stomach? (kidding, kidding!)
- j1m
Amazing interactive 360-degree panoramic view of the entire night sky | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
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"A new magnificent 800-million-pixel panorama of the entire sky has been unveiled online today. It was stitched together from 1,200 photos by astronomers at the European Southern Observatory from viewing sites in Chile."
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
wow!
- Chris Myles
Oh wow. Totally resharing this, thx!
- Ayşe E.
You're not going to see anything like this in the Northern Hemisphere. This is only the night sky for those south of the equator. But it is cool.
- Nina Jansen
WOW!
- Susan Beebe
LOVE it!!
- Roshan Ramachandran
hmmm didn't supply a link in the article! Ahh its the Daily Mail, to explain to non-UK-ites, the Daily Mail is the UK equivalent of Fox News.
- Toby Graham
http://www.gigagalaxyzoom.org/ for the full thing.
- Otto
Also: High res download here: http://videos.spacetelescope.org/gigagal... (25MB). All images are better when used as desktop wallpaper.
- Otto
wow thats huge! 800 megapixels...
- Matt Ellsworth
Truly beautiful! Makes earthlings so small!
- Cool Wired
wow it's beautiful.
- Benjo Castillo
Switching browsers is a big deal for many people (change is bad), but installing the latest Flash plugin so that you can play games, watch videos, etc is normal. This is why the "Chrome Frame" plugin is a great idea. Now they need to add some "must have" features to HTML5.
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Absolutely... I hope they'll offer it in .cab form as well so it'll be a simple click-to-deploy solution.
- Matt Mastracci
A brilliant strategy... MSFT left with just the frame.
- τorƍue
Next up: Chrome OS inside of Windows.
- τorƍue
one of my predictions was right! (it should also totally go into Google Toolbar) http://www.satine.org/archive...
- Charles Ying
This is fantastic news for developers and really opens up the potential to innovate.
- Daniel Shaw
Chrome 3 still has drawbacks..no roboform support and xmarks support. Also, flash does not work on a number of sits. Firefox kept freezing(ver 3.0013 to 3.53) so I tried Flock and it uses all my old extensions and is fast.
- earl wallace
from twhirl
Chrome frame will just tick people off: "you need a plugin to view this site" ... and then you just show them what is basically just a plain old website?
- Joel Bennett
I like digg's strategy of displaying a warning of possible funkyness to users visiting the site with IE6. Wouldn't [click here to remove funkyness] do the trick for most people?
- Bill Strathearn
It looks like Wave refused to be slowed down by older browsers and requires the use of Chrome-frame for any interaction with the app: http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2009...
- Bill Strathearn
"and then you just show them what is basically just a plain old website" No, using it for plain old websites would be annoying, but there are uses -- like Canvas animations -- to which there is no good plugin-less alternative. So then it becomes the choice between different plugins. (Of course Flash is more widely distributed at the moment, but some developers may prefer Canvas + JavaScript.)
- Philipp Lenssen
Are there any good uses for Canvas animations? Or any really good uses for Canvas at all? I'm at a loss for situations where SVG wouldn't be better.
- Gabe
my flash will not update!
- Lizajane
office talk #4 - advice of the day: if you don' know something, google it #Kernkompetenz #incompetence #office_life #unprofessionalism
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Emergence of China, India, and Brazil in the World Economy - http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/2009...
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"Data sources are United Nations historical data and Goldman Sachs forecasting data. Each circle represents the size of the nation’s economy every decade from 1970 to 2050. The countries are ranked by GDP each decade from largest to smallest."
- Tom Stocky
from Bookmarklet
interesting that graph says russian economy has declined since 1990 to 2000, and steady to 2010, where actually, russian economy has been growing like crazy after 2000.
- elvirs
The size of the circle is the size of the economy -- Russia's gets bigger from 2000 to 2010. The vertical axis is just its rank relative to other countries (in terms of GDP).
- Tom Stocky
the uk infront of germany? yeah right ;)
- Chris Hofmann
Nice visualisation, but should we trust Goldman Sachs forecasts? http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...
- François Dongier
Wie schoen, wenn man genug ernstzunehmende Personen auf Arbeit um sich hat #office_life #irony #resignation
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Pawing at the cursor while watching himself paw at the mouse cursor on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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best way to get your LCD screen scratched?
- topo
Topo, that's "What is the best way to get your LCD screen scratched?" No $200 for you. :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Make sure you watch the 2nd half... awesome
- Michael Leggett
My cat does exactly the same thing. :-) And the funny thing is when I move the cursor out of the screen she looks behind the monitor to see where did it go...
- Olivia Lovag
Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy ('95-'05 52% of companies in Silicon Valley started by immigrants, 44% in NY) http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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It never ceases to amaze me that we're still having to argue about this -- are there *seriously* still people who don't understand the value brought to the US (and other countries) by intelligent, hard working immigrants? Of course, the answer is sadly yes, as evidenced by the idiots in the comments on this article :P
- Joel Webber
Custom FriendFeed themes and a way to show them off - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"Starting today, people who visit your profile will see it in the theme you've chosen... We've [also] added an option that lets you create a custom theme by uploading a background image and choosing a few colors."
- Bret Taylor
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This is all for MG: http://friendfeed.com/parisle...
- Bret Taylor
See FF is not dead...yet. :)
- Bryan Lee
Cool, thanks Bret!!
- Kol Tregaskes
MG?
- Kol Tregaskes
Huzzah!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Dude... 1) I called it... 2) Why do it if your not gonna be around long............ Unless...........
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
MG Spiegler?
- Bryan Lee
Ah, thanks for the edit there, Bret. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Rolling out these features pretty darn quick
- anna sauce
Awesome!
- Robert Scoble
Cool!
- Anne Bouey
Anyone else have a duck scrolling across your screen that you can shoot?
- Sam Houston
Sam: I made FriendFeed News duck hunt despite the objections of almost everyone in the office :) http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Bret Taylor
I LOVE IT!!! I'm going to have to "greasemonkey-remove" the borders around the box titles.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
thankyou, done deal & it looks good, thanks again, :)
- chaz2b
Haha, cool. Thanks for the answer Bret :) BTW Congrats on the acquisition earlier this week. Fantastic news for a great team and great product :)
- Sam Houston
Zul, hold on that a sec...
- Kevin Fox
Oh my! WILL DO! *holding pattern commenced*
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
(Deleted: Nevermind. Sorry Kevin, Bret.)
- Meryn Stol
Must be Bret's theme, Sam.
- Kol Tregaskes
Meryn: you can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox
- Bret Taylor
Yay! Let's party like it's 2004 and we're customising our Myspace profiles!
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Bret: is this to help usher in branded pages for companies, celebrities,etc?
- Bryan Lee
Called it! ~ http://ff.im/5aLBG ;)
- CannonGod
Bryan: yep, that is one of the goals.
- Bret Taylor
So silly. :)
- Louis Gray
Duck hunt is awesome! Tell Kevin to go sit in the corner for a while. :-)
- Robert Scoble
But what if I don't want to see other people's themes? There's a reason I avoid doing that on Twitter. Can we make our theme the default at all times?
- Admiral Anika
yes, finally. hot dog theme.
- MG Siegler
Anika, you can turn it off in your settings. Both others' seeing yours and/or you seeing others'.
- LogEx
Nice! (especially "See other people's themes" config option)
- Micah Wittman
Hot dog? No way man... BACON!
- Mark Krynsky
thanks Bret, I'm working on it :)
- MG Siegler
not sure if I am happy about this one :) Thanks for the updates though!
- Tim Hoeck
Zulema, the box-border bug is fixed now. Thanks!
- Kevin Fox
very nice! - to see profiles with theme selected by owner, not our own ...
- Petr Buben
I was hoping for long time to see this =) Thank you people.
- Durukan Duru
So FF is sticking around? I'm confused. When will we know of the future of FF?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tim: Uncheck both checkboxes in the settings dialog and the feature will go away completely for you.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: on my page, my name is fading into the background. Any way to control the color of that text?
- Robert Scoble
Oh no, celebrities. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
ah, I figured as much there would be a setting, thanks Kevin! :P
- Tim Hoeck
Thank you, LE. It wouldn't have killed me to check that first, but I'm super tired.
- Admiral Anika
Robert: If you change your theme's background color to black (even though it won't display because of hte tiling) the links will turn white.
- Kevin Fox
Robert, that's too much green monster for me. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
to your guys' credit you make it pretty hard to make this as hideous as you can make Gmail
- MG Siegler
You're doing pretty good MG
- Casey Muller
Slouching towards MySpace?
- Christopher Harley
@ Chris ..well, how about to make this personal themes showing through an option? /quick button, no need to go to settings - that'd be too far :] .. option for viewer, not for author
- Petr Buben
Ok so I'm shooting ducks here. is that part of the custom pages open to all?
- BairdWilliamson
I'm sorry, but this is the lamest thing FF has done (besides sell to Facebook, perhaps). This should not be default, especially when there's a theme that sends a duck flying across pages distracting you from reading them (it's like 1997 all over again). The only upside is that you can turn it off. It's a neat gimmick the first time, but after that it's just lame and becomes a...
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- Tanath
I'm sorry, Tanath, but I 100.000% disagree with you. Don't like it? Turn it off. Me? I love it.
- Stephen Mack
Already have - but it shouldn't be default behaviour.
- Tanath
Why not? I bet more people love it than hate it.
- Stephen Mack
Look, I'm excited that FF is still being worked on too, but this is arguably a step in the wrong direction. There's reasons why MySpace is going down the toilet, and different themes on every page is one of them. I'm inclined to take that bet, just not at this early point because it's mostly die-hard FF addicts that even know of the feature's existence.
- Tanath
As long you guys don't f*** with it, I can't see a problem. Why should FF staff avoid a feature only fearing its possible misuse? I'd rather see an option inside FF to explicitly hide user themes, if they get disturbing.
- David Schmidt
On or off, I can't see any themes on friendfeed except what I have in my browser's usercontent.css file. It would have been nice to include an "advanced user" feature that could have allowed us to enter in our own custom CSS for designing our own theme, sort of like how LiveJournal allows. That would have not only allowed customizing on friendfeed, it would also fix the problem with...
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- April Russo (app103)
David: you can hide other people's themes in your settings (top right of the page)
- Bret Taylor
April, that is a good idea.
- joey
The Coolest and Creative FriendFeed Theme http://friendfeed.com/yusuph... (http://friendfeed.com/burakdo...)
- Yusuf İbili
Bret: There ya go, you guys are fabulous and amazing. Nothing to complain about here on FF.
- David Schmidt
@joey It was something I suggested over a month ago as a one possible solution to a problem I discovered. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- April Russo (app103)
Comparisons to MySpace seem off, since custom themes involve only four possibilities (background image, background color, bar color and box color) -- no widgets, no custom HTML, etc. And first and foremost, they can be switched off. How many times do you visit someone else's page on FF anyway? Most of the time is in your home feed or different lists. I just don't get the negativity, when it's a fun and optional feature that you can opt out from ever seeing again in about two seconds.
- Stephen Mack
I don't know if I consider customizing a few basic settings is really a "Theme".
- Steve de Mena
The correct analogy is to twitter.com user pages, right?
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, that was our thinking internally, though we also give a bit more control with the checkboxes.
- Kevin Fox
Forcing themes on others is bad. This needs an opt out. Glad I use custom CSS.
- Michael W. May
Michael: It DOES have an opt out. If you don't like it please opt out! Click Settings in upper right, you'll see two prominent check boxes regarding theme display.
- Stephen Mack
Kevin: Thanks! You're right, you did twitter one better by letting people opt out of seeing customized themes entirely.
- Stephen Mack
Michael, just uncheck the "See other people's themes" checkbox under settings and you won't see anyone else's theme.
- Dan Hsiao
Stephen's right. Read Bret's comment further up: "[Y]ou can do that by clicking "Settings" and then un-check the "See other people's themes" checkbox" - Bret Taylor
- Micah Wittman
i really like this.really really :-)
- dwightboozer
If this is any indication of what is to come, congrats :) Absolutely gorgeous!
- mySingapore
Thanks to the FF staff, this has been a long awaited request =) Ya'll rock!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
What's the next? I guess "FF background creator tools" will come out nowadays. :)
- Oğuz Serdar
To begin with, is "Themes" really a necessary feature? Still, great to see the new features coming. =)
- Winston Teo
sytycd = best theme ever!
- Jen Liao
Winston: yes. I've been waiting for this for a long time. It lets me put some personality onto my home page and that is, believe it or not, important. Very important for brands, too, if this is going to become a business.
- Robert Scoble
love this :)
- Edgar Rodríguez
Bret u rock!
- orionstarr
from iPhone
I had not noticed the steampunk theme. Awesome.
- j1m
@Stephen Mack so it does, thanks, and apologies. I shouldn't comment before mocha, I know this.
- Michael W. May
It's great ! My new theme : http://friendfeed.com/allford...
- All for design
@All for design: Nice theme. Only the blue of the logo sticks out like a sore thumb.
- Peter
Can you guys stop adding awesome new features, please? Otherwise, no-one else will have a chance to catch up and it'll be an even greater disappointment when it goes. ;)
- James Myatt
Hurrah! I just themed my page along the lines of Twitter and my web page [ http://www.achean.com - shameless plug, but I need the hits! ]
- achean
Check Out My Theme;)
- ALPER DURUKAN
Is it possible to make the background image resolution neutral... It is spoiling my lulz --> http://www.friendfeed.com/jworthi...
- Johnny Worthington
I changed my background, but how do I let others see? when I click Bret's page, I still see my own background...I assume this is similar to twitter's custom theme where every user has a different background when their link is clicked. (I'm on friendfeed.com/bret, but still seeing my own background). -edit-Nvm...I guess I have to log out to see it...
- brainno722 (Peter)
@Kevin, thanks for removing the borders <3. @Peter he probably doesn't have a theme set for his own profile...
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
issue uploading background. hangs on firefox & safari. tile image checkbox is greyed out.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
how can i change the font color of "my name"?
- Bahriye
I think life is better if you choose to trust people a little more. Something about reality being a mirror.
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I'm sure this seems naive to many.
- Paul Buchheit
i'm naive by nature, but always honest, :)
- chaz2b
I wish this was true in our country. Relative to other cultures, we have much to learn.
- Akshay Dodeja
people can be trusted, groups less and organizations never (sorry, I should also add "by me as a general rule")
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Are you saying... to chill out?
- Josh Haley
Too many people complaining, I guess. Indeed, trust is something rare in the cynical times we live in.
- Jordi Soler
I believe people who are questioning will trust more when they get more clarity. In the absence of answers, speculation fills the gap.
- Louis Gray
hey man I trust loads more people online than off and I certainly trust the FFolk. These guys are no fools to build what they built and sell what they sold.
- Thomas Power
Unfortunately clarity takes time. Life is inherently unpredictable.
- Paul Buchheit
PB I am happy to wait take your time and yes I trust you all the whole team.
- Thomas Power
It's precisely because I viewed FF as a collection of people that I invested trust with them - so yes I'm waiting for the clarity that I trust will come and hope your allowed to share it by the new boss.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I couldn't agree with you more Paul. (congrats BTW) I just hope bigger companies also realize the same thing, we will treat them the same way they treat us. With FF I think we all felt like part of the team, communication was open and two-way..it brought the passion out of all of us.
- Chris Myles
I ain't no naysayer I am a true FFsupporter. Go PB Bear x
- Thomas Power
i don't think ppl always like what they see...perhaps why they choice to treat others badly : reflecting their own ugly.
- :}(o|O){:
Oh, I could tell you stories about how I trusted people and was let down, betrayed, and backstabbed. Cynicism is not without precedent.
- Morton Fox
I don't think it's naive, you definitely live better when you are not constantly thinking if people are trying to scam you.
- Amit Morson
It's not good to call a bluff on people/anything before you understand the situation. On trusting people a little more....that's fine. However, it's a very thin line because people are different and unique in many aspects.We can do much more if we remove the slyness that have destroyed capitalism.
- Symon Muchina Thuo
BTW, I like the little "Add comment" thingy. Good going.
- Amit Morson
If I went with optimism, I would prefer cautious optimism over blind optimism.
- Morton Fox
culturally it seems cynicism is a means for people to cope with irony
- :}(o|O){:
I trust the FF team. As I said before I doubt they'll let FB take over and do messy things. They worked too hard to let them do that.
- Molly, Time Traveller
I always give people a bit of trust, and it works out. There have been very few people that have lost the trust I gave them. I expect the best from everyone, and most return the favor. As for thinks like FF, well I don't have a lot of experience and I'm not super attached to the current workings, so I'm just waiting patiently to see what happens. I didn't join for the system, I joined for the people and the content. ^_^
- Heather
ana, that is why trust is required :)
- Paul Buchheit
It sounds like you've gained some confidence in yourself. That's always a plus.
- Wallace
I love FF. You guys have done a great job, and I have no doubt you will continue to do so. Some may have acted more on emotions than needed. However, when you end up being too trustworthy for too long, you tend to get burned. It's cheesy, it's a cliche, but it happens. I know I'm not one of the big ones here, but earlier today, in my completely zombified state, I decided to just roll...
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- Matthew Horton
I don't like how some people are thinking you "sold out" because you were bought by FB, because you needed the money and if you didn't get it what would happen? I think people are pissed off mainly because FB was the service that bought it. What if Myspace or Micorsoft bought FF? I bet there would be more people (including myself) who would totally lose trust in you guys.
- Molly, Time Traveller
Some people are going to take this cryptic post as "Friendfeed will remain a separate entity and will continue to be developed, but I just can't reveal that yet." If that's not what ends up happening -- as seems almost certainly to be the case -- many FFers will hold it against you. I don't believe that's what you're saying, but many will. I imagine the fact that the reaction is mostly...
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- Christopher A Carr
Christopher - I think Paul should start writing even more cryptic posts to /really/ mess with people.
- Andrew C
He seems busting at the seems to talk about *something* he knows, I just doubt that something will really be all that reassuring.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, you're reading too much into this (as are most people here). I really do mean it as a general point about life. The truth is that I don't know exactly what the future holds, and neither does anyone else.
- Paul Buchheit
I have been through a few recent experiences where my apprehensions and concerns about the honesty and the intent of people have been proven wrong. I guess some of us need to go through this phase of realization before we can start trusting people a bit easier than before.
- Jassim
Paul: I was saying that I'm not reading that into your post, but many people will. In light of circumstances, posting something like that is going to be heavily interpreted, right?
- Christopher A Carr
I guess I'm in what some people might think of "denial". I want to think positively instead of being cynical. Being cynical to me is negative and doesn't solve a damn thing. Being positive about anything this day and age is a bad thing, I guess. People view positive feelings as being "in denial" which IMHO is a bunch of bullcrap.
- Molly, Time Traveller
Depressing country music comes to mind... the dog ran away and the truck died, sad tune... *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Perhaps more to the point: Most here may trust the former FF team, but many don't trust Facebook.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I think that is the main point. It was interesting to see Matt Cutts post his congrats via a FF post, but also mention that he hopes the FF team brings some openness to the FB. That is part of the trust thing. Even Microsoft is more trustworthy than FB right now and everyone knows that a team of talented devs getting swallowed up by an untrustworthy corp typically makes no difference to the corp's culture.
- Travis Koger
I hate Facebook
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Software is scalable to huge customer bases.. Customer support, feedback, and expectations don't scale as easily!!
- Chris Myles
Travis: Yep.
- Christopher A Carr
I had to admit, even though I like FB a lot, they have done some things I'm not happy with. I'm hoping they don't mess with FF too much or I won't go there anymore.
- Molly, Time Traveller
@Paul, I will stretch my trust a bit further to see how this washes out for the FF team, but in my view trust is always based on the actions and the way this has been handled, given that you are well aware of your rabid fan base, is not good for maintaining trust. I would have actually preferred that FF be bought my Microsoft (I know MS haters, perish the thought), but at the moment I...
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- Travis Koger
Thing is, every single FF user with a FB account could go delete their Facebook account, and Facebook would barely notice. So it's hard to believe that that they care -- why should they?
- Christopher A Carr
Totally agree Christopher. The FF crowd are such a small bag that they do not care. The reason why I would prefer MS is that they would care because they are clawing marketshare with any means, each little grab of users for them means a lot more then it does to FB, who as we all know don't even care about their existing 250-300mill.
- Travis Koger
Travis: You do know that MS is FB's single largest investor by far, right? For all practical purposes, MS bought FF as much as FB did
- LANjackal
LANjackal, yeah, but I am not sure about single largest? Particularly since the valuation that they bought in at was a lot higher than the current valuation from the recent buy in, so I think their shareholding is a tiny bit smaller now. There is still competition between the two for users, as there is from Google and twitter etc.
- Travis Koger
Hmm, I don't like mirrors...
- Mo Kargas
Lanjackal, I told like you to one of my friends feed yesterday, you are right!
- muratt
Travis: FB isn't publicly traded, and MS has given them more funding than anyone else, period. No one else has come close to the $240M MS poured into FB
- LANjackal
muratt: Thanks, appreciated
- LANjackal
Travis: You don't think the Bing search results integrated with FB search results are accidental, do you? That said, I'm not one of those people who believes everything MS is bad. So far they've done well allowing FB to grow as they have. I've been with FB since 2004 so I have more faith in them than the average person. I'm giving them time to see how this all shakes out, and putting a lil trust in the FF devs too
- LANjackal
LANjackal, absolutely not, I know that was part of the investment and obviously worth a shed load more than the original 240M. I did think though that they had just received 200M from a russian company and have received other similar size investments from other companies. Don't get me wrong, I am not a total FB hater, if they do right by FF then I will absolutely stick around. What I...
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- Travis Koger
This is a smart approach. Trust...but verify. As much as many of us chuckled at Reagan in the 80s (OK, as much as some of us old guys chuckled) that's not a bad philosophy; it's what we do in day-to-day life, anyway. If we didn't implicitly trust most of the people we interacted with daily life would be chaos. Oh, and "naive" is the way we act on a daily basis.
- Tom Guarriello
Oh, and one more thing. I think the difference between the public reaction to FB buying FF and Amazon buying Zappos is fascinating.
- Tom Guarriello
I have actually more trust in FB than I have in Amazon - FB has not yet had the kind of anti competitive practices that Amazon has had in the last few years. If it had an easier way to ignore most apps, and reined their lawyers when revising T&Cs, FB would be positively peachy :)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Reality is a mirror. We will manifest in life what we continue to see and be. If we find that we continually cannot or do not trust people, it is often because we ourselves are not trustworthy. Give situations time to sort out before you automatically assume that the worst will come about.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Paul, I take your point. This is how I've gone through my entire life, with varying degrees of success. But I should tell you because of this I've been burned many, many times and have the emotional scars to prove it. It is not a statement to be made lightly (not that I think this is what you were doing).
- Jim: Now With Caffeine
I think most people would like to trust but most people have been disappointed before so when one cares about something or someone might tend to create negative mental scenarios as a mechanism to protect oneself from another disappointment and not to appear a fool once again.
- M F
Cautious optimism is how I proceed. However, I've been involved in and project managed through many acquisitions, and usually the acquiree gets fed a bunch of bs about how they'll be able to control their destiny and keep their baby running. But I don't think I've ever seen that actually happen. I hope it might, in this case, but I feel like so much cannon fodder at this point.
- Rick Cogley
@rick - touche
- Monique
@PaulToo / Paul Buchheit you say "Unfortunately clarity takes time." This is really where I think many people take issue, why did you sell the company without getting a more firm road-map for how things were going to go (which you could have then announced)? Unless you basically said: "OK, just give us the money and we'll let things sort themselves out later." Which is of course your...
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- Alex Schleber
Are people forgetting that Paul sunk millions of his own money into FF? Unless FF was a 503c Foundation, he can't be faulted for seeking to recoup that, and with big players copying FF features every day, there was a risk to FF's future. I'm somewhat saddened by what happened, but happy for Paul, but either way, FF introduced a bunch of concepts that will now be copied by other...
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- Ray Cromwell
I like the sentiment to stay open and trusting. Life is too short to do otherwise. And since there is a lot of talk about the facebook deal on this thread guess I'll throw in my 2c there too -- which is, congratulations on another successful venture Paul. Very impressive and facebook will be better as a result. If FF gets lost in the shuffle that just means someone has to go out there and start another venture ;)
- Thomas Mader
@cromwellian, that's why I used the words "which is of course your prerogative"..business is business, fine. I congratulate the FF team on their business win. But then don't mix categories and try to bring social issues like "trust" back in through the backdoor. After Beacon et al. FB PR disasters, do you trust Zuckerberg/FB with a darn thing? You yourself seem to think similarly by saying you're "kinda resigned that it's long term fate is not in the cards." My point exactly..
- Alex Schleber
@Guruvan BTW I disagree with you that this has anything to with LOA/Projection type stuff..the point is we all trusted FB in the beginning..a long time ago. Did we attract their multiple mis-behaviors into our shared reality somehow?!?
- Alex Schleber
More accurately, life is better when people are trustworthy.
- Tanath
Alex: I have spent about 10 hours of my life with Mark Zuckerberg. I think he is a lot more trustworthy than most business leaders I have met.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Scobleizer, which isn't saying that much, would you agree? :) It is after all the same Mark Zuckerberg that handed out business cards reading "I'm CEO, Bitch" not all that long ago..
- Alex Schleber
How does facebook reconcile talking about openness but trying to prevent other services from gaining traction by blocking the flow of information out of facebook that would enable smaller networks to compete? It looks like facebook is trying to become the entire web experience for users.
- Ru Viljoen
I've been through too many mergers and acquisitions to trust anything the buying corporation says.
- Alex Scoble
yeah u need to trust now because you gave away control. i think it was a silly move. i still think that friendfeed could have turned the tide by itself,...with proper profiles and people search. now all you can do is hoping you didn't got fooled
- Chris Hofmann
Schleber: damn, I didn't get one of those cards from him and had to drag him into a Time Magazine party. He didn't want to go because he didn't have an invite. I think that's the last time that I'll have an invite to something he doesn't have. But, seriously, I love how we blow out of proportion people like him.
- Robert Scoble
Alex Scoble: I assume the worst and when the best happens, I'm surprised. That said, Zuckerberg and Facebook has never stabbed me in the back or been jerks the way some other companies have been.
- Robert Scoble
If facebook succeeds it will lead to a period where innovation stagnates, and finally the largest task for facebook is to wrest power from google, and I personally do not want that to happen.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: if you think Facebook is stagnating, I think you are smoking some good dope. Remember, FriendFeed couldn't take off because Facebook was too fast a follower. Many of my favorite friends from across the industry are now working there. Don't underestimate this company.
- Robert Scoble
Plus they stole Google's sushi chef and he's freaking awesome.
- Robert Scoble
Any company in Silicon Valley who is powered by sushi is unstoppable. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't think that, I think facebook is brilliant and incredibly innovative, I mean it will go that way if they become too dominant in the comprehensive web experiance.
- Ru Viljoen
Ru: Facebook is the next Google.
- Robert Scoble
I have never heard of any company continuing to drive innovation as google has after acquiring a monopolistic majority, that is why I do not want it to be replaced.
- Ru Viljoen
Facebook never stabbed you in the back? :) http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
I was thinking about that Louis.
- Alejandro
I think he is right, social search is better than legions of anonymous results. Facebook leads social so when they master search they will undermine google.
- Ru Viljoen
yeah but the content that is dragged into FB is still much more limited to what google can crawl.
- Chris Hofmann
What exactly are you referring to by "social search," Ru?
- Christopher A Carr
If I'm trying to figure out who *among my FB friends* has the cutest new baby, or the highest ranking on Farmtown, then FB is certainly superb.
- Christopher A Carr
Search results relative to people you know. So far facebook has focused on features and usability to grow its userbase, but it looks really obvious that they will then try to use that social network to create a search engine that uses your acquaintances to serve you recommendations or search results and people will love that.
- Ru Viljoen
Wait, what?
- Derrick
thats what friendfeed has been doing already
- Chris Hofmann
Ru: I could see that were FF as large as FB. My aunties and uncles on FB don't really know much about my interests or preferences. Won't FB have to radically restructure the network -- FoaF, and such?
- Christopher A Carr
i think that is the point of getting the friendfeed guys in the firstplace
- Chris Hofmann
In that case, there's so much legacy cruft in FB, why not build from FF's foundation if they're going to have to tear things down anyway?
- Christopher A Carr
Actually Paul, there is a famous wise American Caver named Donald Davis. Cavers find cave. Caves are a kind of form of Shrodingers Cat, we never know where more cave is until we find it. Davis postulated in the 60's that the cavers create the cave in their minds.
- Robert Higgins
FF is interests/information-centric. FB is people you happen to have encountered physically-centric.
- Christopher A Carr
It might be a hell of a lot of work but still that is where they will go. Bear in mind they have just released facebook lite and their explanation of it being for low brandwidth areas and mobiles smells like BS, but that is too speculative, fact is they can create that infrastructure with enough money, talent and users.
- Ru Viljoen
But they have 1/3 of a billion users with old expectations to placate. How radical can they be?
- Christopher A Carr
Well until it is done who knows how much behaviour will be shaken up, but they can be quite radical and people will not leave because how do you communicate with school friends and grandma if you leave?
- Ru Viljoen
It would seem extremely difficult to me to build a new house by ripping out a piece of the old house and replacing it, one piece at a time -- and starting from the roof. At best, for much of the process you'll have an ugly-ass Franken-house -- which is a good description of the state of affairs at FB.
- Christopher A Carr
Paul we trust you not to stab Friendfeed in the back, but to infiltrate and take over Facebook
- Robert Higgins
:) I can haz sleep nao.
- Eric Logan
No, Eric...it's only 4:48PM. :-)
- Christopher A Carr
hahaha well I hope facebook remains a secure place to chat to our real friends and some form of friendfeed lives on and grows for our edgy web friends. Sleepytime 01:49 here
- Ru Viljoen
I imagine you and the rest of the FF gang are stinging a bit (perhaps you didn't expect the backlash to be as... well, passionate as it was?) but, in my experience, trust is something that has to be earned and it's usually something I only give to people I know personally. Generous trust has almost always repaid me negatively so I'm loathe to just hand it out. I'm a cynical, old, cranky...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
I have a long held belief that trust is something meant to be earned, not something you are entitled to from the start, and once shattered it is difficult, but not impossible, to regain. And Trust travels with a companion called Respect. They are 2 sides of the same coin.
- April Russo (app103)
Wow Akiva!! 'monster off the leash'. I feel your hurt emotions, really deep!
- Myrna
Eh, I've entered into the acceptance stage. Things are as they are.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My response was you are worth way more than 50M!
- E-Advocate Network
WAYYYYY MORE (than 50M)!!
- Chris Myles
life is better when you trust in others.
- amelia arapoff
Now when you expand a conversation, we add an "Add comment" link to the bottom so that you don't have to scroll back to the top.
"Serhat Ozan", ethan meccage, TobiasVerhoog.com and 281 other people liked this
heh just was gonna say something
- MG Siegler
Sweet!
- Mark Trapp
I'm first. :P http://ff.im/6tDGj
- Oğuz Serdar
Why add this even thought your going to close down the service?
- Matt Ruiz
Yes! Thank you!
- Diego Barros
hey, that's me in that grab.
- Christian Collins
You're quick Qguz!
- Paul Buchheit
nice its quite useful .. :)
- Bhowmik Shah
Exxxcellent, sir. We've been asking for this for awhile now. With this taken care of, how close are we to being able to collapse comments that we've expanded?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks !!!
- Eric Logan
It's too late.
- Matt Ruiz
Let's call that a $50 million feature ;-)
- Laurent
+1 Akiva, was thinking the same thing - Also, thank you much! Been hoping for this. :-)
- Matthew Horton
Good to see development on FF hasn't stopped, Paul. I thought the FF API v2 post was the last FF update we'd ever see. This warms my heart :)
- LANjackal
it's not too late, personally alot my post-FB fears will be allayed if dev continues on FF.
- Joe Silence
Very cool! Keep bringing the cool features!
- Dakota O'Neill
Great!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Akiva, so how's your faith feeling tonight? now?
- Myrna
I just clicked add comment, and now I have nothing to say. :D
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Myrna, a band-aid might help but it certainly won't cure.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I had to refresh the page to see it initially.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Akiva :) So what would it like if it wasn't just a band-aid?
- Myrna
Myrna, I am unable to parse that sentence.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sounds like a good addition. I was thinking about that today.
- Louis Gray
Thank you, Thank You, Thank you!
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm wondering how Paul is feeling tonight a day after signing. Toward his friends here also?
- Myrna
Me like.
- 1x29
Lol at Laurent $50 million dollar feature
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
Keep proving me right, Paul. You guys are awesome!
- Jesse Stay
CYBERHUG! (platonically speaking!)
- MiniMage - HLtW
+ Jesse in every way.
- Myrna
very nice - please keep pushing on your features! Keep making FF great.
- Tobin Truog
awesome! definitely makes sense.
- Dusty Edenfield
Yep. I just noticed it. Then looked for the post ... and here it is.
- Kevin Mohr
Suggested this a while back. Glad to see it added.
- Manuel Mas
Much wanted feature.
- ashish
Cool!
- Anne Bouey
I just noticed that! Very nice!
- Herb Hernandez
from iPhone
Me like new link. Very convenient.
- Dennis Jernberg
Yay, you guys added my "add a comment" button feature (sorta). thank you :)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
fftogo mobile version, or is there abetter one?
- jcunwired
nice!
- Marg Uerite
Another great new feature. Thanks, Paul!
- ha3rvey (looking busy)
Genius!
- R1CC1
digging the feature but I'll keep Micah's script around a bit longer since it also has a "like" link
- chrisofspades
Maybe it was the absurdly long discussions of the FB purchase, but I was wanting this feature yesterday. Woot!
- Tom Horn
nice
- Gaith
can you please add one at the bottom of the page, too? i keep having to hit About then the friendfeed logo, and finally back at the beginning/top :)
- mike
Let me guess, the 500+ message thread about FB buying FF brought this on. Like!
- Evan Parker
Matthew, Laurent, Akiva Roflol. This is like the bouquet you get when you're the girl and he messed up. Louis, you were right. ;)
- Melanie Reed
:) thanx
- Ali
hey cool feature thx PB
- Thomas Power
ty
- paniaguai
that's great! thanks
- Jay
Excellent!! Thanks, Paul.
- Kol Tregaskes
cheers
- outofmyarse
Perfect choice of screenshot
- Alex Kapranoff
Very nice improvement, me thinks you were listening. I remember seeing someone request this feature yesterday.
- Keith Rowland
makes sooooo much sense
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Probably a five-second feature to reassure everyone ;-)
- Tim Tyler
Thanks it is useful :)
- Burçak Çubukçu
Great
- Химия и Жизнь
In Soviet Russia, comment posts you!
- Mark
Yay!
- DGentry
While you are at it, add a "Keep classic FriendFeed alive forever" -link. kthx! ;)
- Jemm
Very clever, and very easy.
- Evan Travers
It does not appear until certain number of comments are made. This is really nice because if it appeared twice in proximity it would not look nice.
- ashish
Now, can you add a collapse comments feature? I hate having to scroll up or down for what seems like miles and miles of comments just to get to another post.
- April Buchheit
+2
- Jim Norris
We really wanted this when we were conference blogging--will be great for next time.
- Ruchira S. Datta
+1000 April - yes, i've wanted that for a while, too ... please :)
- Susan Beebe
Nice start. That means I can almost uninstall the Greasemonkey script that had been doing this for me for the past month or so. Now could we also get a link to collapse the comments again. Pretty please? Oh, and why no "Like" link at the bottom as well?
- Alex Schleber
ooh yes, a link at the bottom to re-collapse comments would be great. or maybe even every 30 comments or so there could be a re-collapse link. sometimes i expand and regret it in short order.
- Felicia Yue
Happy to see this :-) and happy for Myrna too
- Majento
hell yeah!!! Friendfeed rulz ever, please dont fusionit with FB xD
- Francisco Espinoza
from BuddyFeed
nice!
- αяf
i am (maybe not an addict)
- Anand Sharma
I'm with April
- MiniMage - HLtW
quetest haha
- ethan meccage
Brooklyn's Most Expensive Apartment Is In a Clock Tower - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
caglar, Sean Kelly, Jordi Rivero and 104 other people liked this
Sharing just because I think it would be really cool to have a big clock as your window. More photos here: http://www.nytimes.com/slidesh...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Whoa, the glass-walled three story elevator is the business.
- Andrew C
and those shadows are the seller, :)
- chaz2b
I must admit, The Shadows are quite impressive, it would be interesting to see a Night Shot, too see if the Shadows are still there with a Full Moon!
- Herman D. Lawson
the clock window seems very Batman villain like.
- Roshan Vyas
It sucks to hear the bell every hour, though :-P
- Andre P. Siregar
Wow... looks like a gorgeous place to live.
- Yolanda
Looks a bit like the set of "Birds of Prey".
- Spidra Webster
Nice one. It looks like having two big clocks as windows.
- Bernie Goldbach
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...would drive you crazy!
- Anne Bouey
ok. I'll take it off your hands for $23 mill. Deal?
- Jordan Brock
You don't need to spend more for a clock on your wall :P
- Emre Öktem
it look great
- 535
A Google executive told me that something cooler than Wave is yet to come this year. OK now I am interested! But I am tortured. What is it?
Malte Steckmeister, Kevin Brew, Peter and 140 other people liked this
That does peak my curiosity!
- Kevin Whalen
You are a cruel, cruel man. Now we're all tortured
- Keith Barrett
There going to buy friendfeed.
- Shaun Hess
Yea. I feel like your friendfeed pic, not being able to figure what it is.
- Lakshman Prasad
Must be pretty big.. very curious!!
- Allan Jones
Geocities 2.0!
- pourmecoffee
Maybe Google Chrome OS earlier than expected?
- Manuel Mas
I wonder what that could be.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
So they're already giving up on wave?
- Colin
What is your Friendfeed picture anyway? I'm slightly confused.
- Hunt
Whatever it is, Apple/AT&T will not allow it on the iPhone :o
- Kevin Whalen
How can they be advertising something cooler than Wave when Wave isn't even out yet?
- Lise
Colin: no. Wave is very important to Google.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Wave 2.0?
- TheHenry
I think I know, but I'm not allowed to say because it would violate an NDA.
- Bryan Bartow
It's Google Surfboard - a wave add-on
- Keith Barrett
Bryan: in that case do you agree?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Wave is going to be awesome. Waiting on my sandbox access.. it will redefine communications on the net!
- Tim Hoeck
Or how about Google Wave: Pacific.
- TheHenry
Depends on their implementation of the idea. Personally, I'm more excited about Wave based on what I know about the two, which I admit is very little.
- Bryan Bartow
I have a Wave sandbox, and it IS awesome! The announcement has to be related to the new OS or android
- Keith Barrett
Keith, if it's what I'm talking about then it is neither.
- Bryan Bartow
Bryan: hummmmm. Now I'm more tortured
- Keith Barrett
In the interest of full disclosure, my information is two levels removed from the source. Google -> vendor -> me. Still, I trust the source and when the idea was told to me it sounded very plausible.
- Bryan Bartow
I hope it's Google Base integration with Open Social widgets!
- Mitch
A bit bigger than that, Mitch ;)
- Bryan Bartow
@manuel I just came back from Win7 ship party and i am astonished that how many man years does it take make a OS.
- Ruchit Garg
My team was actually asked to work on the project, but we unfortunately had to decline. It definitely would have been a cool project.
- Bryan Bartow
Ruchit: I understand, just speculating. Yet considering it sounds like a Linux distro running Chrome, it does not sound all that impossible.
- Manuel Mas
Maybe its the ability to call up contacts list when composing a message. That would be groundbreaking. :/
- jcunwired
Google Heath integration with Orkut?
- Mitch
@Bryan: Is it a Netbook with Chrome OS with all the Google Apps built in. Something like a GPad?
- Abhishek Tiwari
Chrome OS wouldn't be a real surprise. Even a Linux distro by Google wouldn't be a shock. Wonder what it could be... hmm...
- ChristianWV
killer than wave??? how many of you think google wave is a path breaking one?????
- hariharan kumar
Should be considerably easy for Google to accomplish since Wave is vaporware to the overwhelming majority of web users - even savvy ones who know about it.
- Chris Duffy
cool is always relative. I have learned not to get too excited. It may be cool for you but not me.
- Phillip Miller
I think you mean subjective
- Mitch
hate you. :)
- metalerik
It's going to be an anti-aging skin cream. It will be called the G-formula.
- Tomy Thomson
What about the Google Docs interface overhaul? http://googledocs.blogspot.com/2009... With the possibilities of GDrive ...
- Kevin Mohr
Wave seems like another Orkut to me, so it wouldn't surprise me if there is something better coming.
- Cristo
Google AdSense on the new Coca-Cola Freestye soda dispensers?
- RAD Moose
@Abhishek Nope. Not hardware related if it's what I'm thinking.
- Bryan Bartow
I'd be willing to bet it is mobile-related.
- LogEx
Google shoul create a highly robust social media platform that integrates Google's products: profiles, mail, calendars, chat, voice, picassa, blogger, gReader, search, latitude, maps - that is what I would build :)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
add Wave too, of course
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I'm just going to call it gootopia (or should it be googtopia. hmm)
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
Susan, I think that is happening already, bit by bit. Every month there are new capabilities and integration points. I'm optimistic on that front.
- LogEx
Interactive TV? :P
- imabonehead
I was dreaming about getting access to wave now something new and better?!!!
- Mostafa Lameei
Mostafa: There's always something new and better coming from every front.
- Manuel Mas
Logical - Google product integration has way more potential than they have currently in production now. I see layers of useful and revenue generating features and improvents. The potential roadmap I see for this is highly disruptive and needed.
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
If I had to guess, I would say 1) some type of Youtube Appliance (=Apple TV done right) or 2) Google News 3.0 (shifting from news to a discovery engine). The TV thing is probably bigger and somewhere they have a big competitive advantage with Youtube.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
USB plug in directly to right ear download contents of mental zipper - ready to upload to friends
- PookyMedia
Another big opportunity besides realtime communication is media streaming so my guess is a Silverlight-like (RIA) platform with special focus on adjustments dependent on the device used for consuming and open enough that augmented reality innovations will play nice with current "standard" codecs
- Alberto Saavedra
Google TV!!! Yes!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Google Web Drive, under the "Cosmo" codename. Read Blogoscoped or GOS. I think Ionut told me he expects Cosmo to be launch before Sept.
- Jérôme Flipo
from iPhone
Google Web Drive would be cooler, in a way..ve.
- Nick Humphries
Antimatter Wave, aka Wavenot™
- ianf ⌘
Google buying FF?!! but something big too big have will for sure have a relation with Google voice.
- abdellah
A time machine?
- Allen Eskelin
"Google buying FF" - Noooooo! It will just get killed like some of the other high profile acquisitions they have made.
- Travis Koger
@Allen I love the concept, @Travis google killed the app that were at their first stage of development, FF is 85% finished (mean completed) the rest 5% will be user innovation, so even if Google buy FF they will not change a line in the code or the architecture.now who is the firt to like this post?!! what did Greader this week? who from Greader left the office to go to FF? too many question!!
- abdellah
but let be clear, all the above are just speculation.
- abdellah
Nope Abdellah. Cosmo have been mentionned numerous times in official docs and in the code of some apps.
- Jérôme Flipo
from iPhone
@Jerome havn't understand what do you mean by Cosmo
- abdellah
I think it's called "hype."
- Carlos Eberhardt
It has to be quantum computing. all computation done outside of time and space.
- Walter Logeman
I'm thinking Google Chrome with Native Client for super fast rendering of web applications (including Wave).
- George Moga
Introducing Google Goo: Making the web squishy, coming late 2009.
- DGentry
Won't be hard to be cooler than Wave. Yes, I'm not a big Wave fan: way too noisy, messy, unusable... Maybe I'll change my mind in the future but for now, I still don't get what we'll do with this stuff and I don't buy the idea.
- Pascal Thivent
Okay, here are my predictions. First, let me say that being cooler than Wave will be quite hard because that's pretty awesome (do you have sandbox access Pascal? Because I'm sure that will change your mind). (1) Google TV - Never mentioned anywhere officially and would definitely be cooler than most others, however VEVO is somewhat similar. (2) GDrive/Cosmo/whatever they call it - would...
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- Californian
Google World Domination?
- Amit Morson
This churn in applications wears me out! Where do you get the energy?
- ZuDfunck
The amount of web-based applications being delivered from Google is amazing. There is so much potential in Google voice apps, Google Wave, which will put their social apps on steroids and now an OS. If they can leverage their brand and fan base into these other verticals; they will be a force to reckoned with and a huge target for anti-trust regulators...
- Mark Harai
Google Cloud. In your pocket, on your desk, embedded ---anywhere, anytime at anyprice.
- Thom Kennon
Wow Thom - that actually does sound VERY cool...
- Mark Harai
I'm interested too!!
- Alex Hammer
Probably something to do with a more direct Windows competition. If you look at Google's recent products, many of them are meant to replace Microsoft products.
- William Mougayar
from iPhone
A multi-platform OS is the only thing in my mind that could top Wave. Can't wait to find out for sure though what this will be!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I bet it's the Gdrive after I've just paid for an extra 10GB storage on Google. Would be cool to be able to access all my files from any google app, so I could add a picture from picassa webalbum or embed a video of mine/ favourited without having to go to the other site and copy a URL. This would set it up nicely for google OS
- Steven Horner
from iPhone
It's a kind of gyro balanced 2-wheel personal transportation device, IT will change everything. The way we live, the way cities are built.
- Ray Cromwell
Crazy. I wonder if it will read my mind and stream content related to my thoughts in real-time.
- Dane
What!? Cooler than Wave. I'll give my left nut to find out what & to be a tester.
- Brian Felix
from iPhone
Whatever it is, I'm sure IT WILL BE BIGGER THAN THE INTERNETS!
- Andy Bakun
It is a Google-branded reality distortion field developed in collaboration with Apple. The reality distortion field prototype is so strong that Eric Schmidt was forced to resign from the Apple board of directors, lest his field encounter that of Steve Jobs reulting in mutual annihilation in a devastating burst of pure energy.
- thegeniusfiles
That's a really interesting idea, Gabe. It seems to go a bit against the drive that Google Apps will reduce the need for IT departments though, so I doubt it.
- Californian
Google will be hiring people to come to your house and physically direct your searches.
- Chris Baskind
This photo search thing?
- Michael Q Todd
Google has created an OFF button for the internet and will demonstrate their magic later this year. After that, Google will solidify the world under one government known as the Google Wave Party. Then, SkyNet will be born and we will all be shocked and amazed when Google Androids storm through our neighborhoods, killing us all.
- Bradley Farless
More exciting than Wave. Has got to be Tsunami
- Sidharth Dassani
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