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Android Cupcake Starts Arriving - http://jkontherun.com/2009...
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Can't wait for my turn to upgrade. Looking forward to my stereo bluetooth headset becoming useful for more than phone calls.
- Mike Seidle
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Four Alternatives to Layoffs in Your Print Shop - http://printfinishblog.com/alterna...
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The biggest issue facing America - http://lewmoorman.com/the-big...
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Lew - is healthcare a right?
- Robert J Taylor
I ask because in 2004/5 I had no debt until my family suffered 3 hospitalizations. That's when I left being an independent contractor to join a traditional company with benefits. If not the inability for the self-employed to obtain health benefits I'd likely still be independent.
- Robert J Taylor
I thought I could easily find some hard facts about the cost of pharmaceuticals in the US vs the cost in other countries. I was wrong. Looks like I will have to go beyond simple Google searches. My suspicion is that US patients fund a disproportionate amount of the R&D for drug development that benefits the entire world. That would be great if we could afford it, but it looks like we can not.
- Chip Ramsey
robot, i don't think as a society we are going to sit by and let people die. we don't do it today. emergency rooms are open to anyone. it just is a horrible system that creates higher cost last ditch effort care. and, the personal crisis you discuss is a good example of how resource distortions arise due to the fear of healthcare costs. there has to be a better way.
- lew
the US healthcare system is in sad shape yet so many people don't even realize it because they haven't been personally affected by it. hopefully we can turn it around before it gets too much worse. i cringe every time i hear someone say "blah blah blah Socialized Medicine, never!"
- Phil Maxwell
The growth of interest payments is not in our national interest.
- Mike Seidle
mike, like lew said in the post - the interest is a reflection of the growing costs - cut the costs down and the interest goes down too
- Chris Heath
Good link about US healthcare expenses: http://www.nchc.org/facts...
- Chip Ramsey
Look at healthcare in places where it has been socialized. Canada, UK, etc. Is their level of care acceptable? Is it acceptable to lose all ability to choose which treatments you are going to receive? If you hand healthcare over to the government, none of us (except the "elites" and those who work for the government) will receive an acceptable level of care.
- Stephen M. Otto
healthcare is not a right. Its a choice. If you get health insurance from your employer thats money that they are not paying you. Just like the 7 to 8% they pay to Social Insecurity and Medicare is more money that employers are shelling out that you don't see. Many people who live in New York find that paying over $1,000 a month for family coverage simply is not doable. The programs for lower income people cap out way too low.
- Matt Ellsworth
Things you learn by hanging out with geeks: cheap vodka put through a Britta filter tastes the same as expensive vodka.
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BS, but after you've had a little to drink it might seem that way.
- Michael Fidler
Not totally true. The Mythbusters busted this particular myth on one of their shows: http://kwc.org/mythbus...
- Philip Tomlinson
The conclusion was: filtering cheap vodka improves it, but it doesn't make it taste the same as the top shelf stuff. Whew... I'll be sticking to the Grey Goose then ;)
- Philip Tomlinson
Michael: it is not BS. I was sober when I tried it.
- Robert Scoble
There are inexpensive vodka's, that taste great for their price. What type of Vodka was it?
- Michael Fidler
It's funny how some of the more expensive vodka's only appeal to certain people's tastes. I don't like Stoli, but I like Absolut, & Grey Goose
- Michael Fidler
Michael: I forget but will reproduce the experiment when I get home. On the way to the airport and a bunch of vodka and a few games of wherewolf have erased my memory. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I do believe it produced results, but I'm curious about the procedure. Are you talking about a standard filter. or the more expensive kind that's found in a water filtration system one might find under a sink?
- Michael Fidler
Cheap vodka decanted into an expensive vodka bottle will fool most people. Especially if it's drunk with a mixer.
- Gilbert Harding
Gilbert: I hadn't yet been drinking and I will try it at home.
- Robert Scoble
Have you ever tried Ketel One? It relatively inexpensive, but it goes down like water. It's kind of scary when a strong alcohol tastes so smooth.
- Michael Fidler
If you really want to put this to the test, pick up some Popov on the way home. If you can make it taste better, that would be all the evidence necessary http://bit.ly/V8s93
- Michael Fidler
The screen savers (kevin & alex) cascaded like 9 or 10. To make really tasty aristocrat. #TSS
- Chris Heath
Things you learn by reading posts like this: geeks don't know shit about vodka.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony: that might be true but I tried it several times which is why I can't remember the brands. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Stoli Vanilla works for me
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Heh, I wasn't referring to your brand unrememberment but your implication that cheap vodka put through a Brita filter suddenly "tastes the same" as premium vodka. I know you said "expensive" vodka but most people take that to mean premium. Some expensive vodka is horrid; some cheap vodka is quite drinkable (especially if you're just dumpin' it in fruit juice). But no amount of filtering...
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- Anthony Citrano
42 below is the vodka to drink. Fanstastic stuff
- Jamie Vidamour
But what exactly is being filtered out?
- Denise
Wonder if the same concept works for Tequila...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
As long as it comes in a plastic bottle, I'm cool. Hate when I drop it and it's close to 2:30. ;-)
- Sue Radd
Denise - Soylent Green is a primary pollutant in cheaper vodka's. True story.
- Jay Cuthrell
Cool. Something to try. Yeah it probably won't make cheaper stuff taste like Stoli (or better stuff), but it's an interesting idea.
- Mitchell Tsai
Like my new hat? - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Excellent!
- Brooks Bishop
Nice!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Suave.
- ♥patricia♥
dapper, dude.
- MikeAmundsen
My mutant power is to look awesome wearing just about any hat.
- Tad
hatastic!
- Geoff Schultz
Very much so, Tad.
- Derrick
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super!
- Ekin Acar
Beautiful
- Corvida
Coolest photos you'll see today.
- Mike Seidle
@indymike Glad you like them but, http://twurl.nl/q4twtx I saved the best one for last. Coming soon.
- Michael Fidler
The pic from sand level may be one of my all time faves. Amazing.
- Thomas Tracey
Absolutely love the first one, thanks, Michael.
- Kol Tregaskes
New Logo Design from Brandswag http://www.getbrandswag.com/blog... Olympia Stone
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RT @juliandarley: China's central bank calls for new global reserve currency run by the IMF to replace the US dollar http://news.bbc.co.uk/2... WOW!
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Oh, oh.
- Robert Scoble
This doesn't sound good... but I'm not an economics guy, what's the impact of this move?
- Donelle
This is what peter schiff has been warning about. That the Chinese keeping their curency pegged with the dollar was hobbling them and that once they break free the USD will be alllowed to fall. As best as I can remember it.
- Christian Burns
a new global currency? !dangit!
- MikeAmundsen
It already exists and is called an SDR, which is based on a basket rather than a single currency, it's just not as widely used as some others.
- melvincarvalho
yes!! i'm agree with pastas9
- sakura
Pingdom looked at the uptime of blogging services over the last ~4 months: http://royal.pingdom.com/2009...
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Why Facebook has never listened to you and why it should NOT start now: http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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I think you're right on the money about Zuckerberg: just imagine if Apple started listening to the peanut gallery. I don't think having companies try to pitch us every time we make a move online is the answer, and I think companies already know it (which is why you weren't contacted, among other reasons): if anything would cause a mass migration it would be that. People cannot stand...
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- Mark Trapp
Glad to see someone gets it. It's not about early adopters now for Facebook.
- Mike Seidle
Yeah, Apple does some really anti-user things once in a while. Rocky just got his new MacBookPro and said "where's the firewire 400 port?" Anti user. But, in the long run, probably the right thing to do.
- Robert Scoble
Mark: friendfeed is showing how to do the "better search" part. Already I can tell friendfeed "show me all items that have the word 'stroller' in them that have two or more 'likes'". That's not yet possible on Facebook, but I bet it will be by the end of the year.
- Robert Scoble
Brilliant article; right to the point.
- Pavel Senko
Similar to this is the story about Google currently testing around 50 shades of blue. It might seem crazy, but when you have Google's traffic volume, a miniscule change could significantly improve the user experience, even if only subconscious. Nightmare for a designer perhaps. But in the larger scheme of things, a good move.
- Graham English
Zuckerberg is smart. An insightful business machine with clarity! Excellent listing of the 7 phases of FB. It's easy to see the growth thus far and where the potential is. Thanks Robert! And congrats to you and Maryam!
- Amy Flynn
If Facebook did listen then nothing would have ever changed.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
By the way, Facebook hasn't listened to me, either. If it did, I'd have more than 5,000 friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: if they do that, then they have it made. FriendFeed is nice, but its missing the information about who I am as a person, instead favoring to define me by what I do or like online. After a year of using FriendFeed, I'm not sold on that being the best approach, especially when things like "like" require other people to feed the engine. I'm really into philosophy of language,...
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- Mark Trapp
I get why people don't like the new layout on facebook but I actually like it. It seems more interesting. It seems like a lot more people on my friend list are engaging with it and sending out more missives. There is more of a stream of stuff. And I like that.
- Aidan Mann
Mark: yup, and I've told the friendfeed team they should let me skin my profile and add more data to everyone. Facebook is way ahead there and I'm not sure friendfeed will catch up. Friendfeed, though, is far better for creating public conversations and I don't see Facebook going there and Twitter has no leadership willing to piss off its current users to go there.
- Robert Scoble
Aidan: have you ever wondered why Twitter is getting more hype than Facebook despite Facebook growing in #s of people far faster? I have. Easy: Facebook doesn't yet allow public entities. IE, celebrities, news organizations, etc. That's going to change pretty quickly. Then what will happen to Twitter's hype machine? It will shut down.
- Robert Scoble
It's true. The great Business prof and writer Clayton Christenson always says one of the worst things you can do is listen to your customers. They will drive you right out of business. If they listen to their customers' demands they will leave themselves vulnerable to what he calls "disruption from below" ie, in this case FriendFeed and Twitter.
- Stephen Pickering
Apple does anti-user stuff MOST of the time, not some of the time.
- Matthew DeVries
Steven, I don't think Christensen said that at all. You aren't vulnerable to disruption from below until you've actually risen, and you don't rise far if you are always chasing new sales and ignoring your current customers. The mistake is only listening to your best customers at the expense of marginal customers. That cedes fertile ground to upstarts. That doesn't mean that it is smart to alienate much of your existing customer base, as FB seems to have done, trying to crush an upstart.
- Erik S
No offense to anyone :-D but the comparisons to Apple? I mean, come ON. Apple is *visionary.* Jobs said "I see a smartphone that people enjoy using," and lo, it was done. Jobs said "I see a day when music will be DRM-free," and lo, it came to pass. That's *vision.* Facebook is *imitative.* They are borrowing from Twitter and Friendfeed. Imitation is in their DNA, going back to Facemash...
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- Karim
I don't agree with part of what you say in your post, Robert. I think Facebook does listen to what its users say even if that doesn't always translate into doing what those users want. The terms of use issue is a great example of this as is its promise to incorporate user feedback if enough people demand a particular change to its future terms of use. Where I agree with you is that Zuckerberg must press ahead with what he and his team feel is the best direction for Facebook despite minority protest.
- Paul Jacobson
"Then what will happen to Twitter's hype machine? It will shut down" That is pretty bold :-)
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Great food for thought. But I strongly disagree. The previous changes to FB added to the site's functions, but in many ways the latest round of changes have changed the fundamentals of the way FB works. It smells to me of a company desperate to find a real revenue stream ... the ad network just doesn't work effectively, the applications and API are all but dead, and now the useful tools like events and groups have been pushed into the background in favour of a suite of copycat Twitter-alike functions.
- Toby Hede
I strongly disagree with you on this topic Robert. I have been a part of social networks in Turkey for a very long time now and I have seen why and how the trend shifted from one network to an other. The reason people settled on Facebook was because it was mainstream and appealed to the casual user. You and I can filter a massive feed from networks to see only what we need to see but the casual user can`t. Many will switch to an alternative if Facebook insists on its new model.
- Tuna
I actually think the outrage over this new design is less than the last time... and I hear everyone always threatening to leave if they don't switch back... please, it may happen one day but the very nature of facebook keeps them safe from people just leaving... people will whine, they'll threaten to leave, and then they'll get over it...
- Shawn Duffy
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how to eat a big cake?!!a part at once. this is what FB are making they are trying to make the user adapt to change in a progressive way, many change are to come personally I enjoyed robert post, it is very instructive, and I agree at a point you may not listen to your costumer, but there is no reason to say it to them. leader some time have to keep some observation for themselves, and to not comment on any thing.
- abdellah
Google figured this out a long time ago. What users actually DO online far outweighs what they say they do. Hence, initiatives like Google Labs
- Jim
@Jim: I wish I could bottle that motto and make sure everyone understood it. Too many take qualitative research and let it guide decisions and then become confused when the product isn't effective.
- AJ Kohn
Because in the end it is about making Mark Zuckerburg (even more) rich off of our information. Recording each and every like, click, and post to better help target our eyes towards a bunch of useless garbage and trying to own our images, thoughts, and ideas along the way. I suppose knowing that might help avoid being played.
- Tim
I will wait. I like that you predict such nice things, but I am not sure that a bad user interface is what will bring in the business. On the other hand, I am still waiting for the revolution predicted in Naked Conversation and the Long Tail to happen, so a bit more wishful thinking won't hurt. I agree that FB has to move forward and they should go the way they want to go, otherwise it will end up in a mess.
- Roland Hesz
Reread the post, and yes, I am positive that the current user interface mess up has not much to do with the bring in the business. Making it harder for people to find anything will make it harder to move forward I think. But it Zuckenberg's toy, he should do it the way he wants. Probably has a long range plan.
- Roland Hesz
Robert, hadn't actually stopped to think why twitter was getting so much hype. I have a touring bicycle. It's inspirational to get tweets from Lance Armstrong. How this will translate to Facebook in the future will be interesting to say the least. My daughter works as a graphic designer, is more a myspacer than a facebooker, she tweets but mainly as a device to communicate with me. Her comment to me recently was that she has noticed business everywhere including twitter handles. Congrats by the way! ;]
- Aidan Mann
just think people don't like changes, so that's why they keep arguing bout the new design. Even if the changes are for good, people dont like it so they complain... not leaving, but complaining all time.
- Dani Martínez
Henry Ford said "if I'd given customers what they want, I would have invented a faster horse."
- Tom Landini
I'm not getting the "objects in the social graph" part of the later phases in Robert's post. Can someone provide an example? How about where to find out more?
- Tom Landini
people didnt like the fb change, yes, including me. After reading above blog i came to know the intent & agreed also. So, people could be making opinion just based on UI changes, without knowing the reason, like me? Was it possible for fb to handle it better?
- Roshan Ramachandran
from twhirl
Tom, I took that to mean things like, "You are now following @MarsPhoenix," "The U.S. Government is now following you," "You have a new friend request from the 2nd Floor Break Room Coffee Pot."
- Karim
Will Facebook listen to the public and change it's frontend, probably not until user numbers vastly drop. Do I like the new look? No. Will I stop using Facebook? No. Why? Well I know how facebook works enough that I can get the information that I used to get from the frontend other ways. It's just harder to get. It's for this very reason I believe the users will carry on using Facebook. They don't like it, but they can get by. Hence facebook will think the majority like it & it's the minority moaning
- Paul Bainbridge
@Karim: Thanks. So that means the US Gov't and the Coffee Pot can see all my posts etc. on Facebook, I guess. But if it also means I can see all of the stuff on their networks, that opens things up pretty wide. And I guess I can see who's been drinking coffee on the 2nd floor when I'm away.
- Tom Landini
sadly, the US Government almost never posts pictures from that wild party where it got drunk and destablized a foreign government. also, the Coffee Pot just tends to whine a lot about how you haven't refilled it lately (despite location awareness showing you were in the same room twice today), and it complains when you don't fill it up with the "right" brand of expensive coffee and then gets all petulant and moody because it thought you and it were friends.
- Karim
Pity people without Facebook; they never know what the gov't is doing and have to suffer the coffee pot's silence. Hey, wait and minute ....
- Tom Landini
....They get news from other places? Facebook seems useless from my point of view.
- ralphsaunders
@Karim - The Poor Coffee pot, will it ever learn? ;)
- Tyson Key
@Karim - i'm fairly certain the gov't can see what you're doing whether on FB or not. wave to the g-men!
- .LAG liked that
ErikS Facebook hasn't risen already? Are you kidding me? If nothing else he simply couldn't stand still while everyone was spending their time on Twitter or his business would die. He had to shake things up, even if it were just for the sake of shaking things up. I like it. Competition is fun and healthy and gives us more valuable products and services.
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen,are you kidding me? You said that "Clayton Christenson always says one of the worst things you can do is listen to your customers. They will drive you right out of business." That's a mischaracterization, I explained why. Taking it on your own terms, you're suggesting Facebook got as far as it did without listening to customers? I don't buy it, given that there are multiple examples to the contrary. True, sometimes businesses have to risk alienating customers. We'll see how it turns out this time.
- Erik S
Special congratulations to @scobleizer and @maryamie for the announcement of their new arrival!
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Thanks Jesse: you guessed it first!
- Robert Scoble
@Robert and @Maryam May you be blessed!
- Melanie Reed
I just hope I didn't spoil it! After you said, "no more guesses", I thought, "oh crap! I think I was right!"
- Jesse Stay
Melanie: I am so blessed sometimes I wonder when the other shoe will drop. Jesse: I didn't mind we just hadn't told our families yet.
- Robert Scoble
All the best!!!
- Lora Lufark
Wolfram Alpha is Coming -- and It Could be as Important as Google | Twine (computational knowledge engine) - http://www.twine.com/item...
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I want to see this.
- Robert Scoble
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This should be exciting. Remember, Wolfram discovered cellular automata, too.
- Akiva Moskovitz
So long as the beta isn't called Wolfram Hart, it'll all be good.
- WorldofHiglet
Akiva, I believe it was actually John von Neumann (in '40s...working on self replicating systems he followed suggestion by Stanislaw Ulam to use mathematical abstraction rather than having one robot physically build another robot). For those of us in school in the early 70's our first exposure to CA was via an article in Scientific American (Martin Gardner's Column) on John Conway's "Game of Life." Wolframs' work was considerably later....(I think first published around mid 80's) but oh what work it was!
- David HC Soul
Sorry, Akiva but Wolfram didn't discover cellular automata von Neumann did and the NYT article from several years ago was talking about Wolfram playing with the Game of Life created by John Conway in the 70's.
- Jimminy Fuller
I was being sarcastic. His whole pompous 'new science' deal and all that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sorry Akiva - right over my head; it must be too late at night for an old guy like me.
- David HC Soul
Looks like it will be a giant, general-purpose expert system.
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
S'all right. I'm barely keeping it together myself.
- Akiva Moskovitz
++Higlet
- Amber, Random Time Lord
My goodness - #WolframAlpha news is incredible. I've been so looking forward to hearing about something like this.
- Julian Edward
Robert, I too want to see this... the potential for this is really amazing. Einstein would go nuts for this, huh?! This is a great milestone in mathematics and computing science
- Susan Beebe
Hi folks -- it is indeed very cool -- I was blown away by what I saw. It is really something new and impressive. Only Wolfram would take on something so ambitious, and actually pull it off.
- Nova Spivack
Hmm... what's stopping Google from creating something similar? I guess because of what the article highlighted: hidden in the article is a big red flag for me, " ... there are potential biases in the answers one might come up with, depending on the data sources and paradigms used to compute them."
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
I have to add a note: Ever tried searching for "who is the mother of britney spears" in Google? Try it.Or, for a more acceptable kind of question, try "what is the capital of bolivia"
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
http://www.trueknowledge.com seems to do the same thing..impressive service.
- Mahesh CR
Pandu I believe that the idea of Wolfram is to answer other questions i.e. "What was the level rainfall on X day in X". Also Mahesh they're is a conversation going on over on Twine which explains the reasons why it is different in the comments.
- Nicholas James
I've noticed a pattern over quite a few years: Internet services that are pre-announced with a great deal of hype often fail. Services that simply and quietly open up shop, like Google, and which rely on word-of-mouth to communicate an exciting experience, are more likely to succeed. NEVER pre-hype your Internet service. Let the service speak for itself. That being said, from its...
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- Sean McBride
If it takes that many words to describe it I'm thinking it's not going to pan-out.
- Kevin Gamble
I dunno, I remember google having a good amount of hype long before I ever used it, I don't think it did "pre-launch" but certainly long before it was well known and at a time when other search engines results were still competitive.
- Richard Lawler
Have any pointers to the Google pre-hype? I don't recall it.
- Sean McBride
This all seems to rest upon some interesting advances in Knowledge Representation, which might be of use even if the service doesn't pan out.
- Seth Greenblatt
Where are the research papers underlying the knowledge representation approach here? Wolfram's team worked entirely in stealth mode?
- Sean McBride
I have a friend working on this and he is raving about it.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark -- where is the headquarters for this project?
- Sean McBride
reminds me that we still have no clear picture of how mind works.. and i don't think we could ever possibly have..
- Hayk H.
Hayk -- we know quite a bit about how the mind works, and will learn much more. Cognitive science is a viable endeavor.
- Sean McBride
Sean, that is true. But compare the amount of money, resources, time and effort put into finding out how the mind works, combine it with all previous endeavors of humanity and contrast it with results we have - IMO not much. Processing info in as organic and natural a manner as human mind is the objective of this project. I am going to be cautiously skeptical in my expectations about it, although I already see the hype that gathers around it - reminiscent of Turing's machine some 70+ years ago.
- Hayk H.
Sean, my friend is based in LA but I don't have details on where the rest of the team / offices are located.
- Mark Krynsky
Where Sergey Brin once said "If it doesn't exist, you cant find it" Wolfram is saying the answer can be constructed from the question. Notions of what 'does' and 'does not' exist are going to be pulled in for questioning.
- zeroinfluencer
Wolfram and his team are smart. I look forward to seeing what impact this has on the community. I wish that he would do more work in "productionalizing" his research in emergent behaviors.
- Will Hawkins
What's the worst movie you've ever seen? - http://www.netflix.com/Movie...
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My #1 will *always* be Coyote Ugly. It made me want to go on a rampage through Hollywood. #2 would be Hollywood Homicide #3 is 50 First Dates tied with Spanglish.
- Admiral Anika
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The Brothers Solomon: http://www.netflix.com/Movie... :/
- Ubqtous
Oh Adam, that just *sounds* bad. LOL
- Admiral Anika
You have no idea! Nonetheless, I kept watching like, as Bill Hicks would have put it, a person with a sore tooth that keeps touching it :/
- Ubqtous
@Anika: Not an Adam Sandler fan?
- Katie is Frittering
The Doors. I don't know why but I hated that movie so much that I left the cinema midway through.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Didn't like Punk Drunk Love and Tropic Thunder. Both of these I turned off half way through after forcing myself to try.
- Katie is Frittering
The worst position is tied with "The Ninth Gate" (which oddly was on multiple times today) and "Event Horizon".
- Andy Bakun
Ninth Gate was indeed terrible but, for some odd reason, Event Horizon is a personal favorite.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Waterworld
- Michael Fidler
from twhirl
Ven Helsing. That sucked AND blew!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Meet the Spartans hands down!
- Jay
Snakes on a train - seriously!
- Vicky
White Chicks.. horrible
- embee
I like The Ninth Gate, but didn't like Event Horizon at all (too graphic etc). One movie I couldn't finish was Fair Game: http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Jemm
Joe Dirt
- Greg Guitarbuster
Borat. i still want my 2 hours back.
- Imabug
King Ralph
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Napoleon Dynamite! HATED it!
- BEX
Ever is a bit of a big call, but I'd say the "Ghost Rider" with Nicholas Cage was possibly the WORST movie I've seen recently. OH, and Lions for Lambs with Tom Cruise and Merryl Streep was also a HUGE waste of my time. Normally I have a pretty good premonition that a movie will be crap, and am able to avoid it. Oh, and I loved Coyote Ugly. Trick is watch it with the sound muted. Problem Solved.
- Will Higgins™
No, I'm a not Adam 'Look at me do Drama" Sandler Fan. I loved Happy Gilmore and the Wedding Singer. But 50 First Dates gave me the heebie-jeebies and Spanglish was just all around stupid.
- Admiral Anika
Embee, I can't hate on White Chicks only because of that scene in the car when the football player guy started singing that song. Otherwise yes, it's 98% awful.
- Admiral Anika
Slap Shot 2
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
6 Days and 7 Nights
- Matthew DeVries
Weekend at Bernie's. Awful.
- Anika Palm
Anika, I once watched Weekend at Bernie's in Sweden subtitled in Swedish. The Ethiopians I was hanging with, kept looking at me and my friend like we were to blame that mess. They kept pausing the movie to ask about references. It was shameful.
- Admiral Anika
hahaha...I liked Weekend at Bernie's. Finally, I found someone who hates Spanglish as much as I do!
- Anna Haro
Toss up of either Rock N Roll Mom, or Surf Nazi's Must Die. Although the 30 minutes I actually watched The Love Guru may trump them both.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Of all time? Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. In theaters? Batman & Robin.
- Alex Scoble
Moulin Rouge. Oh, god. The horror!
- Mona Nomura
Highlander 3 (note i did not see Highlander 1 or 2, but no matter what the case there's no way this wasn't the worst movie ever.)
- Steve C
@Steve Trust me, Highlander 2 was worse than 3. In 2 they made him a freakin ALIEN. WTH?!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
There have been three or four movies in the last year that I couldn't make past the first 10 minutes or so, including Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Superbad.
- Mistletoe Glen
"Used Cars". Grossly overboard 1980 film, so of course it went on the become a TV series that lasted three or four episodes. When you really need to be assured that your life could be worse, watch this film. http://www.imdb.com/title... Oh yeah, Grandpa Al Lewis was in it too.
- Mark Edwards
Really disliked Coyote Ugly
- Bindu Reddy
wasabi tuna hands down.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Yikes, I like a lot of you guyses worst movies. Especially the Ninth Gate. I can't say worst of all time because it fluctuates, but Titanic, Wizard of Oz and Cloverfield all sprang to mind immediately. But for various reasons. "Oz" I don't consider a terrible movie it just doesn't work for me at all. The other two are pants.
- Joe Pierce
By far, and not even with a close second comes Ishtar.
- Mike Seidle
The Stupids, only movie that I felt like leaving half-way through.
- Rui Pereira
Knocked Up and Starsky & Hutch were also godawful movies. At least from S&H, we got, "Hey! You! Do it!"
- Admiral Anika
Man on the Moon http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man
- michael sean wright
It's funny how many of other people's worst movies I like and have seen multiple times *chuckle*
- Michael W. May
The Breakup. The only redeeming factor in the movie was when it ended.
- Bob Blunk
I have a feeling I'll be watching a NEW one soon, my gf is making me watch 'Chun Li' with her. Then again, Kristen Kryeuk is HOTTTT.
- Will Higgins™
Leprechaun in the Hood
- Rodfather
One of the worst movies ever has to be "Leonard Pt. 6" w/Bill Cosby. It was so bad, even HE went on TV telling everyone not to go see it :)
- Mean aka Mr Get Right
Okay, some of these movies, I'm thinking a promise of getting some was involved in you guys watching these things. LOL. Didn't you *see* the trailers for them first?
- Admiral Anika
Pink Flamingos is definitely something I want to forget
- Rodfather
oh lord there have been many but i think Killer Klowns from outer space tied with every PG-13 "horror" movie
- Angela P.
Days of Thunder - it was only a rental but so excruciatingly bad ...
- Patrick Jordan
Starship Troopers - worst remake of a Robert Heinlein book EVER!
- Helen Sventitsky
Flesh Gordon. But, in a way, it was so bad it was good.
- Martha
Worst movie? The Addams Family. I walked out halfway through - and I'm a big fan of Addams' New Yorker cartoons. The movie was awful. I was surprised that I liked the sequel - Addams Family Values - as much as I did.
- Bill Sodeman
Joe vs. The Volcano. Instead of dying when jumping into a pit a lava.. he's spit out into the sea... where his luggage is floating?????
- Sean
Batman & Robin, for sure. Unless it's Harvard Man, a horrible piece of tripe that forever cured me of watching every film that Buffy alumni were in. Of course, if you want to get into movies that are so bad they're good, I gotta start with Troll 2 and Plan 9 from Outer Space, which are simultaneously the worst and awesomest films I've ever seen.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Jandy my So Bad It's Good Movie is Who's That Girl. Total sucker that pile of crap.
- Admiral Anika
Not sure if it was 1994 Fantastic Four, Dungeons and Dragons or A Clockwork Orange. Then again, I might not have watched ACO all the way through.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
James Toback's "Fingers" (hands down?) - 1978. I shudder at the memory.
- Karen Wickre
Nothing But Trouble
- Jeremy Hylton
Aw, I loved Joe vs. the Volcano AND Starship Troopers. They're so campy.
- Admiral Anika
The Thomas the Train movie.
- Tad
What, no one is going to bring up Eddie Murphy's latest string of train wreck comedies?
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
I don't think anyone's seen them...
- Tad
Not me, I don't watch Eddie Murphy movies...the one I did see and liked was Bowfinger.
- Admiral Anika
Solaris.
- Lucy
the insider and the good shepard - long boring films are the biggest crime, not crap short ones. Both made me never want to watch a film again and watching them is like being in cinema prison
- Toby Graham
Iceplanet (http://www.imdb.com/title...)
- Pascal
Hollow with Kevin Bacon
- Shevonne
Jane Austen's Mafia! Urrghh. (& psst, Anika, that "worse" instead of "worst" has been bugging me. I think you can edit it. You know how several of us are kind of nitpicky about spellings and word use ;) )
- Kamilah Gill
Deuce Bigalow European Vacation. *shudder*
- Rick Cogley
LOL. Kamilah, it's been bugging me too and I kept forgetting to change it. Done.
- Admiral Anika
tiny yay!
- Kamilah Gill
I can not stand Steel Magnolias.
- Bryan Clark
Pineapple Express makes Coyote Ugly look like Citizen Kane. Worst waste of time I've ever spent.
- Matt
Years ago i went to see Portrait of a Lady and got so pissed of that I walked out - may be the only movie I have ever walked out of
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Oh I got another one, but I don't remember the name. I think it was Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu....something & Ecks. Something vs Ecks? Whatever, it sucked balls.
- Admiral Anika
@Anika, that would be "Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever" Never saw it, either. Looked as if it would be ball-sucky to me from the previews.
- Joey Gibson
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
- Justin Whitaker
That you, Joey. My husband was not going to let the opportunity of seeing Liu in skintight clohting pass him by. He thought Banderas would be a draw for me. Wrong.
- Admiral Anika
any Haneke movie
- \(*_*)/
9 1/2 Weeks
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
@Anika: I like Who's That Girl as a "So Bad It's Good" movie. :) It's one of the movies I watched because it was repeated on HBO so much. My brother and I both liked watching it, but I'm sure if I watched it again now (which I considered doing recently!) it would be pretty awful story-wise. :) As for worst movies I've seen in recent memory, I'd have to list In the Cut, Silent Hill, and Resident Evil 2 (forgot the name of it). I liked RE1 and thought RE3 was much better than 2.
- Cheryl Jones
"Zombie Strippers!" Yes... it's real. Yes, I watched it. Why? Well... I like strippers and I like zombies, but who could have guessed it would make such an awful combo?
- Adrian
Farewell My Concubine. Oh god...that movie was CRAP!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Adrian, this is why I don't take you out in public. [smacks head] Tutivillus, yes Concubine was *horrid*. My Women in the Arts professor *LOVED* that stupid movie.
- Admiral Anika
Showgirls.
- Dh'ennis Dömingö
Hustle and Flow
- nakachi
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Anyone in downtown Indy TODAY, go to Washington & Meridian between 11 am - 1 pm. Farmer w/ cow is handing out money.
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How Gmail destroyed Outlook. - By Farhad Manjoo - Slate Magazine - http://www.slate.com/id...
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"As of this week, Gmail has reached perfection." Now maybe they can take it out of Beta :)
- Paul Buchheit
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I thought Beta was part of the product name, Paul. :-)
- Louis Gray
That's the only logical explanation.
- Paul Buchheit
No, Gmail's not in beta. Google is. That's why the logo clearly reads "Gmail(TM) by Google BETA"
- Kevin Fox
Boo. :)
- Randy Holloway
from twhirl
We have Google Apps at work, but my boss is a Microsoft guru and LOVES Outlook. I LOVE Gmail, so I've resisted most of his attempts to get me to pop Gmail down to Outlook. It's a battle every day. :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I use the Mail.app in Mac, but everything stays on the server.
- Aaron Hood
Mail.app <3
- "Joey"
Not sure I understand this debate. I use Mail.app to access my Google hosted mail via IMAP. Best of both worlds and Google in no way "destroys" my use of Mail.app. I presume Outlook could do the same.
- Nick in Manila
I love Gmail, but they still need better integration with other apps/platforms. For example, Google contacts needs to sync directly (and for free) with iPhone/iTunes, salesforce.com, etc.
- Peter Ghosh
@Kevin - They're going to rename the company to Google BETA, Inc soon? ;)
- Tyson Key
Sorry, I meant Google Calendar, not contacts . . .
- Peter Ghosh
Gmail is a great consumer webmail, but in no way "destroys" Outlook. How does Gmail allow me to book conference rooms, or recall errant emails, or follow SOX retention policies? Both have their place and are leaders in their own area, but one does not supplant the other.
- Ryan
Great writeup on Gmail.
- Mike Reynolds
gold master gmail!
- MG Siegler
one huge reason why Microsoft HATES Google, outlook is just one of the major pay for software offerings by MS that are being eroded in market share due to Google
- sofarsoShawn
Comparing GMail to Outlook is like comparing Apples to Fruit Salad. :) They're not the same, even if they overlap on a few features.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
I would guess that Gmail is likely destroying Hotmail -- Outlook not so much. Still reason for Microsoft to be pissed at Google though.
- Brian Sullivan
@psghosh, GCalendar has started syncing with iCal for some time now - check google's help for this: http://www.google.com/support...
- Peter Fedin
Creative Destruction - good news for the public!
- GlennIsaac
If you're not using Exchange, sure, gmail's a killer.
- Mr. Gunn
Well done article.
- Micah Wittman
I turned my tom(at)thomashawk.com email address over to gmail and I have to say that the reduction in spam is nothing short of remarkable. Every now and then I check the spam file and feel bad because real email gets trapped in there, but by and large it's awesome.
- Thomas Hawk
Feels like I'm preaching to the choir here but have been using gmail in one form or another since almost the beginning. After spending years using mac mail to consolidate accounts went full gmail a few months ago because it just works better and the extras are great. Don't see how anybody can top it. The only other one I've tried which shows some potential is zenbe.com.
- Mike Elliott
Agreed
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Gmail rocks! Once you start using it there's no going back. Two niggles though: Multiple signatures and blind group mailings, please!
- Todd Brunner
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Gmail seems great at first - but recently, I have seen several messages disappear from my Inbox while I watch. Sometimes they reappear next time I check - sometimes not. Searching for reports of Gmail eating messages turns up a disturbingly high number of hits. Destroys Outlook? Maybe. Destroys messages? Yes. Not good enough, even for a free service! What use is 7 Gb of space - when it isn't 7 Gb of *reliable* space?
- James
from twhirl
so gmail finally has complete windows compatible keyboard macros, syncs my to my mobile phones, I can do my mailings with them, has an integrated crm system, and more? great. </sarcasm> (and I say this as an avid gmail user ...)
- Nicole Simon
Switched to Gmail from Outlook and never looked back.
- Roberto Bonini
didn't Bucheit invent Gmail according to Louis G? The opening shot in the downfall of Microsoft...?
- sofarsoShawn
He was on the team, yes - and did the prototype for the Gmail Ads, i belive. Don't be modest Paul.
- Roberto Bonini
As much as I love gmail (I've got several accounts), I couldn't use it an office environment yet. Want to covert an email to an appointment or task just drag it to the calendar or task list in Outlook. Outlook also has search folders so I can set up folders for emails I got today. I know there are GreaseMonkey extensions to support search folders but Gmail's date searching is just crummy.
- Andy Davies
I wish people would stop killing the aps I use...I hate that.
- John D Reasor
As far as I'm concerned, Outlook destroyed Outlook: feeble support for IMAP, a tendency toward .pst corruption (chief symptom: messages that hang Outlook when you try to open them), no support for user data migration to new accounts / computers, etc., etc. These days I use Mail.app on OS X and Thunderbird on Windows, and I am much happier.
- Pat Rice
Dukeswharf: POP/IMAP> Thunderbird> Enigmail (PGP) = offline+security+no ads (but no "new" features)
- coldbrew
Nice. I still have more trust in self-administered PKI; is that naive? Are they using asymmetric or symmetric crypto?
- coldbrew
Outlook destroyed Outlook the way MS destroys it's other products (and I have been an Outlook fan since '97): it became bloated and slow.
- Peter Ghosh
I'll still use thunderbird since I have to centralize many different mail accounts (and want them to be clearly separated), but I must admit that Gmail made a good point here :-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Jourdan: Do you use PGP? We should have a key-signing party room on FF. Maybe I'll make one now...
- coldbrew
Gmail is far from destroying Outlook. I still have to use Outlook for plenty of things. It is just a different tool. Feature by feature Google is way way behind Outlook.
- Patrick Allmond
Gmail is the small business solution. Major corporations are way too private to be communicating outside the Outlook box. Yet Outlook has been shown in the past to have vulnerabilities. Security is less of an issue with smaller databases. Suits prefer the worn path, the grey rut.
- Phil Boiarski
Sorry, I meant gmail's encryption. I don't think it has any PKI option. does it?
- coldbrew
As we saw this morning, Google is not infallible. When Outlook fails on one computer, only one computer and one user is affected. When Google fails, the entire world notices. Google Mail is a nice web-based mail service, but that's all it will ever be.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I don't understand that argument, Mark. By the same logic, Google couldn't be anything more than a niche search provider because nobody would trust a search engine that everyone uses.
- Kevin Fox
Speaking of gmail, I've been getting this nagging "Bad Request Error 400" message anytime I've tried to access my mail and it's getting to be irritating. It comes back up if I clear all my cookies and cache but then it goes back to the error message on the next checking of mail. WTF?
- Tsega Dinka
"When Outlook fails on one computer, only one computer and one user is affected." Right, because a software vulnerability in Outlook is programmed and rolled out on a per customer basis.
- virtually
Think of it a different way, Kevin: If Microsoft and Google both declared bankruptcy and shut down every server they have today, Outlook would still work but GMail would not. The odds of it happening are almost nil. GMail is a great web-based mail site. That's the problem it's web-based.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
There's just no way I'll use email software that uses the one-message-per-row paradigm again. The productivity gains from Conversations are just enormous.
- jakebf
How does Zoho match up against Gmail?
- Kevin Whalen
from twhirl
Outlook has many, many, many problems, for sure. I just see the argument as (A Great Web App)<(A Great Desktop App). Does this clarify my thought?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
@mark: that's entirely true, if kind of a moot point based on the probability. If visa went down tomorrow, nobody would be able to pay for much of anything. If Comcast went down, most of us would have no internet connection. It's clearly your prerogative to run all your own software infrastructure, but I'd rather have the convenience of web based software.
- Joel Webber
A lot of commentators are discussing chalk and cheese. Outlook is an email CLIENT / Application. GMail is another Client / Application. How you use each one is entirely up to each user. Most non-technical people think of Gmail as something they access via their browsers, whereas Outlook is a Microsoft Application that runs on their PC. Not entirely true. you can access GMail servers using any client (Outlook/Thunderbird).
- Chris Wright
from twhirl
Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it. The day Gcal started sending SMS to my mobile with the reminders it also killed my old Palm Treo.
- Jordi Soler
What Gmail does is make using Email for the normal non techie person easy. The reality is most home users do not use the power of Ouitlook. The issue with Gmail is good lick syncing a pda or smart phone to it it works well for the calendar but not for contacts. Also Gmail does not give you an e asy way to store messages in tact offliine. Outlook has a PST file for offline storage and backup.
- Rob Cairns
As has been touched on in this thread. Gmail and Outlook are largely orthogonal. Outlook is a client. Gmail is a mail provider with a client. You can use Outlook with Gmail or another mail provider, but either way if that provider goes belly-up you're going to stop getting your mail for a bit. If you're concerned about your mail archives being hosted with someone else, then you should keep a local copy using a POP client, no matter what mail provider you happen to put your trust in.
- Kevin Fox
I went from using internal gmail at google to using Outlook at my new job, and while I think there are good things and bad things about the two platforms, I miss the speed and portability of gmail, but I like some the task/calendar features in Outlook. If I had my druthers, I'd use gmail.
- Ginger Makela Riker
"Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it." Afraid not, Jordi, because GMail Contacts is a big ol' steaming cup of FAIL. When Google gets their act together on Contacts, then Outlook will be threatened.
- John Craft
Outlook is a platform for working with "items"... countless times I have dropped into the built-in macro language to do things with my email, tasks, appointments, contacts, etc., that I could never do with a webmail application like Gmail. I wish I could stop using it, because I'll admit it's a hog on resources, but there is no alternative that will do EXACTLY what I want to do like Outlook will with my custom scripts in it. :)
- Kenneth LeFebvre
GMail via a web browser is just using IMAP to access/control the mail on the mail server. You can set up Outlook/Thunderbird to access GMail using IMAP. It would be more accurate to say that using the GMail web interface has reduced the number of people using other client applications for accessing their email.
- Chris Wright
Why are people comparing apples with oranges here? Client vs service? Thunderbird may beat Outlook, but not Gmail itself. I do recognize the web client is good, but is not nearly as flexible as a standalone. Plus, as has been mentioned by others, I need multiple account processing. Gmail fails at this. Gmail will remain my service of choice in the end. Tbird at home, Outlook at work.
- Vince DeGeorge
I use gmail because of the spam reduction then feed it into Zimbra. Zimbra is an Outlook killer IMO.
- Nation Hahn
@kenlefeb: I'd love if you could enlighten me with the examples of what your custom outlook scripts can do for you, that you can't possibly do with gmail. My blind shot is that you probably can take a look at what greasemonkey scripts can do to muscle webapps, particularly gmail.
- Enver ALTIN
@Vince, GMail does support multiple accounts, see http://mail.google.com/support...
- Shakeel Mahate
@Enver: One example is automatically filling out my weekly timesheet from my calendar. Another example is automatically searching our company's online directory to grab mugshots for all my contacts, so I have their pictures to help me remember who's who... :) This is why I say Outlook is a *platform*. It seems to me that it would be an extraordinary amount of work to use something like Greasemonkey to actually add significant new functionality into Gmail, rather than just enhancing the user experience.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
BTW, I'm not knocking Gmail. I actually use it to host my own email domain... I'm just making the case that it's not an apples-to-apples comparison to put Gmail and Outlook in the same category.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
Hotmail offline access has been available for over a year now with Windows Live Mail client. Can't make out why the same feature for Gmail is that exciting. They are not the first one to enable this feature. Zoho and Hotmail has been having these for a long time.
- Amar Shah
Gmail rocks... hate when some old relatives still write to my hotmail and I gotta go in there to get it, just because microsoft won't allow automatic forward to gmail.
- Peter Efland
The real problem with Davos: not enough focus on small business - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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If you keep bailing out bad big companies, the good small ones never get to grow up.
- Mike Seidle
here's an idea, cap salaries/bonuses at $1 million or else the rich/powerful will keep on pillaging
- Bob Sonin
yep, here's where bailing out the banks failed spectacularly, they were supposed to turn around and re-lend that money, rather than putting it in "safe" investments. "Bubbling up" money through small biz through generous lines of credit may be the only other real option.
- Warren
We keep hearing of bail outs for large business that are not fit to survive in the modern economic climate but there are a lot of small business who have made preparations to cope with this sort of thing and they are being overlooked. Now would be a good time to start investing in these well run smaller business so that they can pick up the slack when the poorly run larger businesses go bust.
- John Cooper
Warren: I just talked with someone who said the bailout was controlled by banks' interests via their lobbies. He thinks we should have dramatically increased regulation in exchange for the cash. He says we have setup a bad precident where bank executives don't care about the consequences for taking on too much risk.
- Robert Scoble
Small business are created in countries with a strong middle class and not too many countries have much of a middle class.
- paul mooney
Really good post, Robert. More like this please! :)
- Ian Betteridge
from BuddyFeed
like monarchies, big businesses don''t realize that they are being obsoleted because they are ineffective at providing solutions .... the dying financial "system" should be a good sign of whats changing ...
- Iggy Kin
Good for you I'm glad someone is finally talking about this. I travel to Central America a lot and I think they are underdeveloped partly because of there small businesses. They have really small shops and American companies but no medium sized businesses that are so important for the economy. In the US those businesses make up 1/2 of our GDP. Also for every $1 spent in corporate business 13 cents goes to the community compared to 43 cent in a small business. We have to do more to support those businesses!
- Nelson de Witt
I agree - although that has never been the point of Davos, which always been a fairly elite project focused at the "big" stuff. But the future out of our current mess goes through small, entrepreneurial, bottom-up inititatives, I think, and at the moment it is small and medium businesses that are hiring, as long as they are given the chance (and not squeezed to help the big guys get their health back together)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Health privacy is dead. Here's why:
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1. By disclosing your weird diseases other people help you out and get you more information than your own doctor can.
- Robert Scoble
2. By disclosing your weird diseases, other people give you ideas you would never have thought of. (This happened to me tonight).
- Robert Scoble
3. By disclosing your weird diseases you feel better just by telling other people what's going on in your life.
- Robert Scoble
You know about these guys, right? http://www.patientslikeme.com/
- Michelle Riggen-Ransom
4. By disclosing your weird diseases other people can make sure you don't "cheat" on your treatment plan.
- Robert Scoble
Absolutely. We got lots of great information from blogs & forums when my husband was diagnosed with liver cancer. It was through social media that we learned the transplant programs in Shanghai probably used condemned political prisoners as donors. Also, doctors sometimes won't tell you things for fear of malpractice or being wrong.
- Robyn McIntyre
It's not a violation of privacy if you chose to disclose your health issues. Privacy is violated when others access or profit from your record without your express consent.
- David McCallie
Too many doctors, hospitals, clinics, etc. will trust m$ health vault and it will get hacked.
- Mathew Packer
David: privacy is dead because you will share your diseases with the world before your insurance company even knows. Why? Because there are too many benefits to doing so.
- Robert Scoble
Your disclosure is your business and always has been. It's others disclosures when you don't want it to be that's the issues I would think.
- John Rubier
The interaction also provides a feedback loop into the medical community - esp in areas like Oncology where all sorts of mixed/weird treatments are being tried. Many docs are also experimenting with holostic approaches, incl diet and drugs. And the Genetics Testing whirlwind is about to hit - further stretching what we don't know and pushing people to seek out others with same genetic predispositions.
- texaszman
Robert, check your fastcompany email address, I just sent you some info.
- Matthew DeVries
5. By disclosing your weird disease, you don't get that job you applied for because they saw you have [insert weird disease here]
- John Rubier
John: our ideas of privacy have totally changed. 20 years ago I would NEVER have told my community my weird diseases. Today? There's HUGE benefits to doing so. And, if you are on a medical treatment plan you should put your medications into an online database which can warn you about problems before your doctor will even know about problems.
- Robert Scoble
I've shared my health problems to help others. Over time, the replies have been numerous. Eventually someone knows someone close to them, etc. Sadly, the old small blog is gone, now it's just a squidoo page with little traffic :(
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
John: that is one risk, yes. But, I think that will change too.
- Robert Scoble
#5 will probably be the big reason, actually I recall someone getting busted and losing their medical compensation claim because of a status update on their facebook..
- Mathew Packer
Weird diseases? Oooh! So apart from the kidney thing the doctor told you what, exactly? :)
- WorldofHiglet
The real issue is what happens when privacy is lost. Currently, you'd probably lose the ability to get insurance, or perhaps to retain or get a new job. We need to fix the laws to protect us from inadvertent (or willful) disclosure of personal health data. The GINA laws are a step in the right direction, but they only apply to "genetic" information (as if there is any health information that isn't at some level "genetic!")
- David McCallie
For the majority of people there is very little value for someone to gain from finding out you are having an invasive procedure such as a colonoscopy, have a health problem or have a funny rash. There are much larger health benefits to be gained by allowing your healthcare provider to openly share you information between providers/organizations. There is also much social value in having information open for research.
- Robert D. Fraser
Mathew: the thing is, the insurance world now knows about my condition. So, if they are going to discriminate against me, they already have that info. In the meantime, by keeping it quiet I don't get the other benefits.
- Robert Scoble
however, will disease disclosure online prevent you from getting a job much like your drunken myspace pics?
- ishak
Robert: the example I mentioned was someone with a back injury from 'work' who was receiving compensation benefits and posted something on their facebook about getting injured in a football game that same week.
- Mathew Packer
privacy has been dead for awhile...but just because it's online, doesn't mean your next door neighbor knows your inner truths
- clarke thomas
Agree with David - it is you being open, rather than health system not respecting your privacy. Doctors have malpractice issues if advice is given when they can't back up with clinical research and that is years behind what people are trying.It is the advantage of you sharing with your network. Others sharing is a breach of your privacy.
- Kate Tribe
Robert Fraser: I disagree. My wife recently shared her funny rash (her doctor thought she had an infection and was trying to treat it with anti biotics. One of her Facebook friends said "looks like you have Shingles." Turns out the doctor was wrong and the Facebook friend was right.
- Robert Scoble
I don't think privacy survives when you sign off on that 18 page HIPPA notice when you check in, anyway.
- Mike Seidle
re: health privacy - are people just not getting what scoble means here? if the advantages to being open about these health issues are great enough (and the advantages are becoming greater due to social networks for instance) then health privacy will die because nobody really will want to keep these things private .... nothing to do with the doctor/hospital side of things
- Chris Heath
ishak - Well Robert's drunken myspace pics didn't prevent Fast Company from hiring him ;)
- John Rubier
Chris: exactly. We are in a weird place where insurance companies can use this data against you (if they don't have it already, which in my case isn't true). There are other cases where diseases are socially negative, like sexually-transmitted diseases. But people will see that for 98% of the health problems they'll have there's a benefit to talking it through online.
- Robert Scoble
exactly robert, and even with the socially negative ones there's always the 'anonymity' of the intarwebs
- Chris Heath
Certain parts of our medical history have been for sale for a long time, insurance companies, the MIB, been writing about this for 2 years, it's really almost who writes the best algorithms, I post more breaches about government systems than private industry, DOD 2 weeks ago
- MedicalQuack
Health privacy died when HIPPA was enacted. Personal Identity protection became compromised when we were stamped with Social Security numbers. Whenever the government enacts some policy to protect us we inevitably become sitting ducks.
- Rick Savoia
Don't you owe us 20 more reasons? :-) I became a big believer in sharing when the Internet helped me find others having the same reaction to a new MS drug & discover what other drug we all had in common Happened in 1995! Company was stunned, but soon shared "possible interaction" on warning list
- MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
health privacy can still be kept if you can post an illness anonymously and let people help out. You can, of course, tell your friends that you are the one who posted it. :)
- Rom Feria
@Robert See dm's?
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Sorry, I meant in there is little value or leverage for hackers to gain from finding out about that rash. I work in healthcare, and the reason we don't have extensive electronic records are because there is a lot of concerns about 'privacy'. The perception is that health records are a huge risk, yet there is no value if some one 'hacked' or stole the information relating to your wifes shingles, but there is tremendous value in having your allergy or related medical info when you move around in healthcare.
- Robert D. Fraser
More importantly, there are billions of dollars traded arcross the globe daily and people are still unsure if they want to have an electronic health record, why is this?
- Robert D. Fraser
Lately though there are more paper medical records being trashed and found, one guy burned his chimney down trying to burn old med records, one guy paid around $50.00 at an auction for the unknown contents of a storage unit, well it was packed with boxes of medical records, all with the usual SS# and credit card information for patient payments. Lucky he was an honest guy this time, but...
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- MedicalQuack
Robert...here are two beta initiatives you, in part, inspired me to compile. Leveraging both Twitter and FF in the interest of patients and reforming the health financing and delivery systems....www.HospitalTwits.com and www.DocTwits.com.
- Gregg
The government is not quite set up to police it at all either, here's a story where many billed Medicare with false claims under dead doctor names, so there was no cross reference on the doctor's ID, so those dead doctors were busy seeing a lot of patients. http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2008...
- MedicalQuack
One more interesting story about extortion with Express Scripts,, pay up or the thief is ready to throw thousands of records out on the web, FBI and forensics working this case like crazy. http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2008...
- MedicalQuack
What works for me is posting health woes in a semi-private place like Facebook. I had no idea that several of my friends had thyroid and/or adrenal issues, and we wound up having really helpful discussions. With 225+ friends, I'm guessing there will always be someone who can give advice without worrying about insurance companies finding out. (Although I'm on a high deductible self-employed plan...and barely make a dent in said deductible, so I personally am not worried about this...)
- Carolyn
Makes me think of this post by Fred Wilson... http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
- Mike Doeff
Last week was a big success for the US Attorney's office in shutting down a company called Ingenix that sold your medication data for $15.00 a pop to any insurer and the were using it to deny claims and coverage, and it was owned by United Health care, so not only is privacy gone but we are for sale too! There's still one more company out there doing it and hopefully they will be next,...
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- MedicalQuack
Is it not true though in the US that you can be turned down for treatment if you are found to have had a disease previously that you have not been to your doctor about? That seems like something that should be taken into consideration when disclosing online. Don't the insurance companies employ private detectives to check that kind of stuff out?
- Nicola Quinn
Anyone out there know anyone that had nerve/groin pain after suburethral sling surgery? My latest, weird surgical complication... in an otherwise totally healthy and uncomplicated gal. It is being addressed by my great doctors, but just curious if there is anyone out there that went through this and had a great outcome. I would like a place to find this stuff quickly and simply online.... but don't really want to discuss it with Facebook friends or Twitter... Something more annonymous would be good.
- Colleen
I agree, you can find a lot of information online that your doctor's will not tell you, and in some cases... ie... when something goes a bit wrong... this is important. Recently happened to me, and I found good information online. Privacy will always be maintained in hospital/doctor's office environment, but yes, people will choose to discuss their own health issues online.
- Colleen
The whole health privacy argument is a ruse. If you think your records are private, think again folks. Most IT depts in hospitals have extremely poor security practices, health insurers, well they like to do all sorts of things with your data and for most cyber-criminals, about the only thing interesting in your record is your SS#. The privacy ruse is simply put out there by various parties to insure that he who own the data, owns the customer relationship.
- John Moore
Thanks Robert for bringing this issue up. About time it received more balanced "airplay".
- John Moore
Could we generalize that to: "Privacy is dead"? :) I think that's the end balance...
- Meryn Stol
Not for pharmacies it's not. HIPAA scares the hell out of us.
- Jim Shireman
Privacy is your right to withhold that info if you wish. If you're sharing it then good for you, but others don't have to if they don't want to. I think a lot of people don't understand privacy and so they're willing to call it dead. I have spoken about my epilepsy because I wanted to. I'm also aware that you don't trust everything you read on the net - many people are misdiagnosing themselves because of other peoples conversations causing a strain on healthcare as they turn up whenever they feel off.
- alphaxion
HIPAA d/n apply when a patient discloses their health records.GoogHealth & MSFT HealthVault don't comply with HIPAA b/c patients, not healthcare providers, disclose personal data. Ever tried to read your (probably mostly paper) medical records? Expect chaos, confusion, scary/confounding notes & references to family history, family members, maybe mental health. Be careful before disclosing. Relying solely on wisdom of non-medical professional crowds for diagnosis or advice has considerable downside risk.
- Tom Stitt
Robert: Here is a good example to illustrate some of your points: http://bit.ly/nbcp.
- Niranjan Tulpule
One thing I believe is very important is to be careful what you share and where as you never know who's looking, could be anybody, so to discuss a condition you really have, use an alias on discussion forums. On another forum with doctors, one MD was looking to hire a new med asst, looked on My Space and found his prospective new employee sitting on the beach topless, smoking a joint, anyway that's the type of stuff you want to be careful where and when you share. Anyone could be looking.
- MedicalQuack
Have you got something to hide? Actually I can see companies sussing out places like this out to expose people who cheat the system. Easier than following someone around for months on end...
- Terry O'Fee
the communities that deal with health issues always show users anonymous nicknames - not their real names.
- Alensa
The problem always comes back to the fact that a Profit-Making Insurance Company MUST discriminate against those who represent a higher risk of loss/high costs, making Profit-Making Insurance Companies a TERRIBLE thing to include in a Health Care System intended to provide quality care to all. Also, when the employer pays for even part of the insurance it makes health a part of the employment decision, which it shouldn't be. Nothing about privacy, everything about failures of a for-profit system.
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
Caution is name of game here... Recognize analogy that is happening FOR REAL with college applications officers. One of the 1st things they do circa 2009 when processing prospective students is to Search FB & MSpace. As adults we have to lead our youth and help to present a respectful outward image. *** Per Health Care, I agree that support groups and the like will yield (and have done so in case of my personal family) COUNTLESS new insights where your GP or Specialist may not be fully up to speed.
- Jeff Ploetz
focused support groups / chat rooms such as www.BrainTrust.org were a God Send to me as I grasped for ways to learn, 1st hand, what to expect and how to assist my bro-in-law who is 300+ miles to the west. http://giving.roswellpark.org/NetComm... .. I offer this secure free PHR @ https://www.WorldMedCard.com
- Jeff Ploetz
"A truly perfect marriage would be one between a blind woman and a deaf man."- George Burns
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Thought for the day: Techmeme's reliance on links between blog posts tends to reward arguments between bloggers. Techmeme does a disservice to the web in that it pulls technical discourse toward argumentation and tabloid-level fare that will generate bitchmemes, People that want to target Techmeme commonly do so via contrived controversy rather...
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...commonly do so via contrived controversy rather than by reason or rationality. Discuss.
- Matt Cutts
unless of course you are one of the authority/seed sites like techcrunch or scoble then you get to lead the bitchfest and get all the links for starting the argument in the firstplace ...
- Michael Gray
true to an extent, but you'll notice that almost all bitchmemes happen on the weekends or holidays when there really isn't much news to talk about. i actually think bitchmemes are good every once in a while -- takes blogging back towards the raw and away from the streamlined news that many have become
- MG Siegler
I read Techmeme occasionally and even show up every now and then. To some extent it gets a bum rap. The clustering feature is one of the nicer things about it. On the other hand, the "blogosphere" as defined by techmeme is a really really narrow one. Which is one reason I spend more time on Hacker News and Friendfeeds Life Scientist room than techmeme. I figure if anything important shows up on Techmeme, chances are I'll end up finding out about it anyway
- Deepak Singh
I think many folks are ignoring the "meme" portion of Techmeme. Going your own way and talking about topics nobody else does won't get you there. It's piling on and going back and forth with other bloggers that is tracked. Yes, it's tech news, but it rewards me-too stories and flamewars.
- Louis Gray
Louis, you're right. But, then, if "popularity" is what makes "value" then it'd be a sad world, a very sad world. I am, as you might know, for personal relevancy, a total unknown posting something about something that "I" like is far more worth "attention" to "me" than anything, say, Mike Arrington says.
- directeur
Amen! TechMeme is bad at catching news, and then only presents a small slice of it once it catches on. The Tweetree story in the last 24 hours is a perfect case study. Humans could do a much better job than TM does. I imagine this isn't too surprising.
- Dave Winer
Dave, True! But machines also can do a better job! The algorithms used nowadays are so stupid that a kid won't write them because of how silly they are. Let's face it: they're all based on the "popularity" parameter. There are standards for personal "interests". The dream-website would be the one to which I'll upload an APML file and which will filter and recommend content for me. I've spent the whole year trying, but the days when this will be fully implemented are definitely coming! :)
- directeur
I do think that until we can develop truly associative algos, some human filters will be required. But yes, algos can and should do the grunt work.
- Deepak Singh
I thought tracking stuff people like to argue about or that comes up repeatedly was the point of techmeme, not covering breaking news. That's certainly how it operates in practice.
- Mr. Gunn
I think Techmeme can be a great way for up and coming bloggers to get attention though, because it is so easy to to game. Once you get a name for yourself, then you can afford to move on to better, real news-related posts. It's one strategy - I don't think it's that bad of one either. Am I wrong here?
- Jesse Stay
Louis, then there's something missing, imho. Maybe TM is all it was ever intended to be. Then I want something that tries to keep me (and you and anyone else) informed on what's new in technology.
- Dave Winer
Techmeme = Tabloidmeme LOL
- Susan Beebe
Mr. Gunn. I think you're quite right, given the design, although it seems to be more of a recursive loop than carefully constructed arguments, but that's as much a function of the blogs tracked as anything else. So who's at fault, Techmeme or those bloggers. Probably both.
- Deepak Singh
Just to agree with Dave, I remember early Techmeme as being the best place to get a fresh snapshot of tech news in the blogosphere. Recent Techmeme is more about the discussions (and arguments) over tech news. There's nothing wrong with that, of course. I just need to change my mental model of what Techmeme is, and maybe shift more of my time to other places that highlight what's new in technology.
- Matt Cutts
I stopped using Techmeme about half a year ago and didn't miss out on any interesting news that would have been worth the time I spent on Techmeme every day. Tech blogs are so redundant it really doesn't matter anymore which blog you read, you'll likely get your news. For niches, just subscribe to these niche blogs you're interested in.
- sebmos
Matt, I just wrote a blog post continuing this thread. Thanks for getting it started. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
- Dave Winer
“In a controversy, the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for truth and have begun striving for ourselves” Abraham J. Heschel
- shayne catrett
Friendfeed is almost what Dave wants. We just need ability to talk to the database and pull value out. What if we could say "show me all items that have word "techmeme" in them AND have two or more comments AND have three or more likes. Display in strict reverse chronological order with no comments and no likes dispayed." why can't we do that? Because friendfeed needs a rewrite first.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: ... or FF just needs to publish the mythical "firehose" of items, comments, and likes, and a third party could build that tool.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert, is that a re-write or just an API?
- Robert Miller
Dave: (re "continuing" the thread) Don't you mean "forking"?
- Ken Sheppardson
but Techmeme wants to make money
- Steven Hodson
Patricia: Gabe deserves this. I was Techmeme's #1 user for a long time and when friendfeed came out I said he is blowing an opportunity to build us into techmeme. He keeps thinking people on friendfeed are stupid. He likes the elitist blogs only and took techmeme into being a Google News competitor. That was a mistake. As soon as friendfeed gives us a couple more features all will be clear. Oh, and I have seen a new service coming next year that will blow your mind in real time.
- Robert Scoble
And if friendfeed takes too long someone else will do it. There is too much value to be left on the table here for long.
- Robert Scoble
Patricia: NDA. Sorry.
- Robert Scoble
and I have something coming out this year to shift the communications paradigm and render websites extinct as we know them..I come with this Vision from the Jungles of Belize...High Tech Retribalization...the plan is so simple but I have not had the honor of the IT Intellects to lend a listening ear..part of being a "minority" I guess...@bcultral
- bcultral
*shrugs* I like Techmeme. It saves me from having to subscribe to a bunch of tech blogs in my RSS reader. I just go there any get my fill of headlines for the day.
- Eric P
Eric, me too but it hasn't evolved the right way. http://www.techfuga.com is a better one-page solution.
- Robert Scoble
Matt, TM is not about "technical discourse". There are places for that, like Google Groups. TM is about the community, it reflects their concerns and foibles. More pertinent, perhaps, to criticise the community for turning inward in this time of uncertainty. Also, maybe there's just not much news to talk about at the moment.
- Paul Montgomery
I still really like techmeme. Mainly because in the morning I can just scan the page and get an idea of what the top tech stories of the day are.
- Marcus Beagley
sorry, i guess my "Real News vs BitchMeme" Radar (tm) is less finely-tuned than the rest of you folks. regardless, i'm still addicted to TM on a daily, if not hourly, basis.
- dave mcclure
To be honest, often the bitchmemes have more value for me as an entrepeneur and blogger looking to provide a unique service or unique information that fulfils a real need. If people weren't bitching about poor search results, there wouldn't have been a need for Google to fulfil.
- Andy Beard
The Indiana Social Network Use Survey - http://www.linkingindiana.com/news...
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RT @chrisbrogan: 2009 social media predictions assembed by @peterkim - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/peter-k...
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@swhitley yep, the shopping hysteria has subsided
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Good to hear, I have seen some crazy things and heard even worse!
- Brendon Wadey
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Linux hits the iPhone! - http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008...
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I have followed about 500 people on FriendFeed in past three weeks. It's far easier for me to follow you there than on Twitter.
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If you want me to follow you, just leave me a message here. I am specifically looking for smart people and early adopters.
- Robert Scoble
I coudn't agree more, although I can't compare with the number.
- Alexandros Georgiadis
Hi Robert, early adopter and entrepreneur here who likes to think he's smart :)
- Terry Smith
Hope I can get on the "smart list" :)
- Valeria
rambn: well, everyone is smart until they prove otherwise. That's why we have unfollow. :-) Also, everyone on FriendFeed is a defacto early adopter. I figure that since it took me 1.5 years to understand and use RSS that anyone who joins in the first 1.5-years of a service is a defacto early adopter. That means we have another five months to go.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for following me by the way, Robert.
- Tyson Key
Hey Robert, It looks like I fit the criteria. Although, Im doubtful about the 'smart' since Im always broke! :)
- Michael G. Galli
Tyson: thanks for bringing me good stuff!
- Robert Scoble
hi Scoble, I'm an italian researcher about online cities http://friendfeed.com/turboy ;)
- Simone Riccardi
Robert - I'm probably one step off pace and 10 points short IQ to qualify for the honor of being followed by you...
- Mike Seidle
Michael: money != smart. Many great people were broke.
- Robert Scoble
Giving ya a comment for a follow back. Thanks
- Mardee Thompson
I need to level up to "smart"
- Ernie Oporto
"I listen to bands that don't exist yet"
- Kevin Morris
I was already following you on Twitter and Friendfeed. I'm trying to learn how to use Friendfeed. Twitter is not helping me make strong connections & alliances and I cannot succeed until I can make connections. I'm an early adopter and hope I'm smart in doing so.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
@Scobleizer Hmm, I think you're already subscribed to me - here's a few suggestions though (ccg, bmevans, netzoo, gebl, hifisamurai, ochua1)
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
Why did it take you 1.5 years to learn how to use RSS?
- Amani
Jannifer: building strong connections is still difficult here, but is much easier here than on Twitter because you can have conversations around one topic, like we are here.
- Robert Scoble
music + a user generated world that consumes media through non linear networks = a new form of non linear social music
- Dizzy Banjo
I run www.Newte.ch and do marketing research. Just started using PeopleBrowsr and love it!
- Vedø
Thanks Robert, I keep telling myself that, appreciate the support :) I am the king of early adoption though and tech, so I have decided to throw my hat in the game and will have my own tech/gadget/review/ blog-site up for 2009. Its about time I did what I always wanted to do!
- Michael G. Galli
Robert, why are you finding FF easier than Twitter? You're welcome to follow me - I'm an Internet industry person (CEO, Sonic.net, independent bay area ISP)
- Dane Jasper
Did U tried TweetDeck? you could build groups in similar ways as here on FF.
- Francois Lamotte
Amani: cause I'm really not that smart. Also, back when Dave Winer first showed it to me I wasn't feeling enough pain to push me into using it. Eventually the pain got worse and worse until I finally asked Dave about it again and started using it.
- Robert Scoble
In my opinion, RSS is something that has no learning curve (it took me less than 2 minutes to figure out how to use them), although it's a Your Mileage May Vary thing...
- Tyson Key
Friendfeed is better to have longer conversations. more space for one.
- sofiagk
Francois: yes, I like TweetDeck but I do a lot of my FriendFeeding on my iPhone. Dane: FriendFeed is better for a whole lot of reasons. I need to do a video on why. Threading is one reason.
- Robert Scoble
Hi Robert. I'm a web content and seo strategist always on the hunt for cool web apps/design. (also wrote the Digital Needs section of Seagate.com.) Pick me, Pick me!
- Doug Vanisky
Robert, are you the most prolific frienfeeder? If not, then I would be suprised ;-)
- Julien
Hi Rob - I hope I meet the high standard of the other 500 people you've added. Cheers!
- Eric
I work in the social media space but only within the home furnishings vertical. Thanks for the invite!
- Leslie Carothers
follow me! I'm smart and early - it's 6:30 a.m.! Have a great time in Barcelona :)
- Corinna Makris
No South Africans on the list, yet...pick me! (although I may be a bit random for you...haha). And @carlspies @palesa08 @xsyn @singe @robstokes @uberEllis
- Roger Saner
Julien: nope, I'm not the most prolific. This service keeps track of stuff like that: http://www.ffholic.com/
- Robert Scoble
Does Smart mean a comment such as "Pick me, Pick Me"?
- Yatin Vadhia
Hey, Robert. Good idea -- I wish more people I follow on Twitter were using FriendFeed.
- Omar Gallaga
Robert Follow Me www.lessnau.com
- John Lessnau
totally agree that FriendFeed makes it much easier to *really* follow more people.
- Kevin Gamble
It would be great to go along and rethink things together
- Vitaly Pimenov
Aloha Robert! Absorb your tweets like a sponge fish. New on FriendFeed, but I'm a quick study. Scour posts for inovation, always looking to push to the next level. Testing new formats to be revealved shortly. Tweets @AlohaArleen
- Arleen Boyd
looking forward to see how many messages this post will get. anyway, greetings from mexico!
- Enrique De La Torre
I would like if you follow me. Thanks!
- Kyle Reddoch
Thanks to all the new people. Remember to put your Twitter feed into FriendFeed, along with your blog, your Flickr stream, your video streams, and more. That way I can get to know you by following you here.
- Robert Scoble
I am following everyone here now except for those who have private feeds.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone else on Profilactic too, out of interest?
- Tyson Key
Legistraight.org, a recently launched public policy wiki. We are also compiling a comprehensive list of Financial Crisis resources. On Twitter (@legistraight), created this FriendFeed acct just for you Robert. http://legistraight.org
- Legistraight.org
Hiya Robert. Count me in if you like! ;)
- Erin McMahon
Arguably smart and not the absolutely last adopter.
- That Software Guy
Ok, I'm waiting for a follow, @dfletcher on Twitter, went to Barcelona recently. Great destination. Enjoy! Is this your first trip to Spain?
- Dave Fletcher
Dave: yeah, it's our first trip to Spain.
- Robert Scoble
Dave: I see you are the CTO for state of Utah. You should meet Jesse Stay. He's here on FriendFeed too at http://friendfeed.com/jessest...
- Robert Scoble
Smarter than who? I'm young and as smart as me.
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Second time lucky!
- Jonathan Greensted
Hope you have a great time. Endless number of sights to see around Barcelona. Don't miss Sagrada Familia and Gaudi architecture. Nice beach south at Castelldefells and Sitges is a cool sidetrip.
- Dave Fletcher
it's thanks to you Robert that I started to use FF and I think it's great idea
- Ioana Monica Muntean
Thanks to all the new people I'm now following 4,500 people on FriendFeed. Wild.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, your real time feed must be flying. can you still read it following that many people?
- Mark Schulz
Hello Robert, I'm a 13-year-old designer, developer, and entrepreneur. I'm part of a new company, 9Miles Media. Thank you. ;)
- Melik Yuksel
Hey Robert.. another Bay Area adopter here (@goyato) .. artist, writer, and digital dabbler. Been on FF for a little while, but haven't really started following too many. Thanks for the push.
- Yato Yoshida
i'm spending a lot of time trying to great groups of folks... is it possible to make your groups public?
- Jason Calacanis
@Melik Yuksel - Yet another upcoming Young 'Feeder? (I'm only 5 years older than you, to be honest, and also new to FriendFeed). I look forward to see where you take this crazy train! ;)
- Tyson Key
Jason: I haven't figured out a way for me to share my group with you, but you can click on http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see everyone I'm subscribed to. I manually added each of the 4,500. So I guess you'll have to do it the hard way too.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert, I'm a veteran UX designer and entrepreneur (mostly for the financial industry) currently starting up a company called Thropic (@thropic) that specializes in t-shirt fundraising. Would love to dialog via FF. Cheers- Miguel
- Miguel Rodriguez
me i am only ne:)
- Aykut Karaalioğlu
I'm not sure if I'm smart, but I'm somewhat of an early adopter. Yep. :)
- Bryan Villarin
I'm still learning FF's advantages, but an early enough adopter to be here already, and smart enough to take you up on your offer. :)
- James Dickey
Been on FF for a short time. One of the best things that happened to me for now!
- Ms. B
@Tyson Key - I like to think that. ;) I'm also new to FriendFeed, quite frankly, I don't know which part of it to start from. :)
- Melik Yuksel
twitter is not conducive to following people its good for now but not the recent past
- Trevor Cook
Wow we're plenty here. Don't know if it's 'clever' to stand in the line but it's late over here in Athens, raining and not a bad idea to...take cover :)
- Vicki Kolovou
Hello Robert, been on here for a while, but I find I still use Twitter more (same username). As Chief Architect for a networking software company, I keep up with new developments, and even create some of them :-)
- John
early adopter
- John Munro
Wow, the real-time feed is faster than the Gentoo IRC channel on FreeNode, and that is often one Hell of a high-traffic channel (I hated being in it, the first time I used IRC).
- Tyson Key
Great to have met you Robert at Blogworld Expo. Check my 12sec friendfeed post for my flip video talk with you.
- James Guske
He probably got the entire New Testament in that 12 seconds!
- jamesdkirk
hi robert, we're both following each other on twitter. would love to see you following on FF, too! thanks :D
- henry
@Melik Yuksel - Take note, you'll probably find that FriendFeed consumes quite a lot of your time, once you get into the swing of things (I get the XMPP feed and struggle to sift through it). I'm still a moderate Twitterer though (I do about 10 posts a day roughly - sometimes more, sometimes none at all, though).
- Tyson Key
More of a "learning the value of early adoption" kind of guy which makes me a johnny come lately of sorts... inspired by Twitter, intrigued by FF... and excited about my new account with PeopleBrowsr.
- Matson Breakey
I could hope I would be added to the smart list. Yee-ha!
- Christian Messer
Josh: I wouldn't know how to do it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert - great to follow you on FB and twitter - connect on Friendfeed too? Saw your post on twitter on being an early adopter. As an entrepreneur and SBO following "techie stuff" is important to keep biz running - so I'm a wellness coach and naturopathic consultant who is also a geek.
- Antonia Teixeira
++++++++++OK, I got everyone above here will need to add everyone else tonight, thanks! +++++++
- Robert Scoble
thought you already followed me here, but looks like not.
- Katherine Druckman
Hey Robert, I'm always looking for new products to test and experiment with. Saw your post on Twitter.
- Stefan Halley
Robert, the energy and time it takes to be friends with 150 people in the 'real' world is the limit for most humans. Dunbar number etc. FB automated the 'social graph' i.e the map of our real world relationships. But still demands increasing energy and time to maintain authentic relationships. Twitter is a real 'evolutionary' breakthrough because with a minimum of energy you can staying in 'grooming' range of thousands of people. Is there a Twitter number i.e. the maximum number of people you can follow?
- Mac Taylor
I might be a smart people to follow but you never know. Seriously, I think it would be fun. :-)
- Dragos Roua
Mac: depends on your goal. If it is to drink beer with everyone on your list, then Dunbar number probably comes into play, although I've probably tripled that and have met more than 10,000 people face-to-face (I have 8,000 business cards from just past eight years). But, if you just want to "snack" on a media stream like my real time feed, then you can follow 20,000 without a problem. On FriendFeed it is better, though. I can have "high flow" stream and "low flow" stream that I watch much closer.
- Robert Scoble
In my "low flow" (Called a "list" here on FriendFeed) I've only put about 200 people. It's interesting to see the difference between the two. One is much more focused. The high flow is much more entertaining (more cool YouTube videos and LOLcat photos, etc).
- Robert Scoble
I quite like using Twhirl though - but on the other hand I don't have a massive amount of followers!
- Jim
I still don't get Friend Feed. Anyone got a good video tutorial?
- MarkCarras
Oh why not... I'm doing my share of searching for news, so Scoble should hop on as well. ;)
- Jorg Jansen
Only problem is there isn't a single apparent friendfeed app on iPhone
- Scott
Follow me because I'm a legal community manager at Avvo
- seadevi
Robert - I'm smart cause I can see your offer to follow me is one I can't refuse. I'm an early adopter in manner of following the uber-early adopters so they iron out the new gadget and techy kinks and suchlike. I was already following you btw on Twitter. Not sure I quite get FF yet though.
- nicky jameson
Wow, look at this comment thread, awesome!! :) Lots of cool people, I am subscribing to here...thanks Robert!
- Susan Beebe
Robert, I am somewhat of an early adopter and I hope it makes me smart. I ran a computer business for 11 years and now I am trying to help others learn the business of tech. It seems some of my associates don't think there is value in social networking. I hope that by connecting with respected names who are early adopters of social networks such as Friendfeed and Twitter they will understand that such services can be quite useful in marketing their businesses and supporting their customers.
- Rick Savoia
I'm loving Twitter, need to explore FF a bit more. You never know where you will get inspiration from.
- Dave Kresta
Hi Robert. Actually I'm a huge fan of yours and until now was a lurker, so thanks for the coaxing to come out and introduce myself. :-) I'm an early adopter and given your high praise of FriendFeed, consider myself smart enough to create an account today to join in the conversation. I tweet as well @belindasimcox and am looking forward to seeing the effect your following me has. PS. A big thanks to your generous tweet attitude - I get your tweets sent to my iPhone - they beat the newspaper any day
- Belinda Simcox (Sim)
Hello - I am a MD/PhD working in the field of medical informatics and studying the use of social networks as a model for expanding our work at the New York State Department of Health in patient/clinician medical networks. Still trying to figure out the best use for short messaging. Twitter name is pathalemd.
- Patricia Hale
I'm changing politics online at http://politics4all.com
- Thomas Cook
Finally! Looks like some Drupal Development projects are coming my way. A nice departure from static, Joomla, and Xcart sites. /me smiles!
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