Dear person who is flooding my river with #fucking#stupid#hashtags: Please stop polluting the FriendFeed River of Awesome with comments riddled with messy hashtags and other unnecessary metadata encodings. Friendfeed doesn't need hashtags. Don't you get it? @eff @u #stupid#hash#tag#hashtag#hash-tag #meta-data #metadata @encoding @systems
Totally just realized that the Librarian in me is completely against the concept of hashtags. Build better apps that don't require humans to enter stupid encodings so your stupid query engine can parse the #stupid#non#normalized#nonnormalized#hash-tags
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
We, as application and service developers need to build better apps that smartly and implicitly add / collect / encode metadata where appropriate. That's why I'm more of a fan of Microformats, APML, and RDFa over #hashtags. Let's use some more robust semi-standards in our apps and hide the complexity from the end user instead of putting the burden on them to dream up their own metadata encodings.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Hash tags should be used only if something is very important or in the case of a conference, using all the time defeats the purpose, if everything is important then nothing is.
- Kim Landwehr
Embedding searchable metatdata in comments using one character seems quite cool to me. It probably shouldn't be the only way to add such metatdata to posts, though. FF could also use #realtags - not just #hashtags.
- Tim Tyler
LOL... I totally agree. I do not follow folks on FF that have nothing but a Twitter feed linked. Hashtags are for Twitter. Conversations are for FriendFeed.
- Sean MacDhai
So you want egg, bacon, spam and sausage without the spam?
- John Rubier
@infintelymeta Hash tags are organic. They offer the 'average user' the opportunity to mark their idea with some TAG that they hope others might find. If your inner Librarian thinks this is pedestrian and sullies FriendFeed, perhaps you and you librarian peeps should offer a HOWTO on hash tags for the Rest Of Us.
- Jason Miller
Very good point Jason. They are organic and they are used in quirky and somewhat unintended ways. I'm certainly not going to point you to the Anglo-American Cataloging Rules, the Library of Congress Classification Scheme, or Dewey Decimal system for guidance on controlled vocabularies and such. Maybe I will blog out some basic tips....
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
via Android
organic? with intelligent search, you should find the same results whether you search for #michaeljackson or "michael jackson" ... instead of using hastags, lets improve our ability to search and mine data... and I don't think the 'average user' actually uses hashtags.. at least not my friends IRL that I consider 'average users'. [ just offering a different POV :) ]
- Sean MacDhai
meh. whatever. they seem to be more of a cliquish thing than anything else - slightly useful for events but why should #event09 be any different than event09? you just earned yourself a sub, Brian - cuz I'm cliquish about subbing to all my librarian peeps.
- Laura Norvig
I think it's useful _as long as they DON'T show the trends_. The moment you list the trends, spammers will know what to do
- Ahsan Ali
I'm sorry, I don't understand your contention Ahsan. Please elaborate.....
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Brian, if FriendFeed starts displaying the top trending hashtags like Twitter does, spammers will try to game the system, by using hashtags out of context .. as it happens now on Twitter.
- Ahsan Ali
an interesting proposal, i wonder what the ff team thinks about it ahsan
- Chris Heath
Thanks for the clarification Ahsan. I see your point now and have also noticed how spammers/trolls are exploiting event-based hashtags on Twitter. I don't think blocking is the answer either because while YOU may not see a troll/spammy post, everyone else who hasn't blocked the troll/spammer will. It's a challenging problem to police & contend with.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Brian, once enough people block the spammer will have their account frozen. Or something. I noticed that even one report in the ff spam group can get taken care of by the ffteam ... And quickly too.
- Chris Heath
via iPhone
I think that the better choice is to report in the spam group that wAy you reserve bloks for true jerks
- Chris Heath
via iPhone
You are right Chris. They do a phenomenal job here on Friendfeed of keeping spam to a minimum. I almost never see spam for very long here.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
@infintelymeta I'd love some tips for intelligent tagging!
- Jason Miller
@seanmcdhai But tags (hash or otherwise) put a comment/statement in a broader context. For example, I'm interested in transforming higher education. Often, the comments I make wouldn't come up if someone searched for 'higher education' because I'm talking about web pages, or replacements for textbooks, or how students learn. By putting a hashtag (e.g., #highered), I hope to make a link between my small thought and a bigger idea. Is there a better way to do this?
- Jason Miller
Jason: according to the snide anti-hashtag sentiments, you should just put a parenthetical remark at the end of your comment, like "(this is relevant to higher education)"
- Joel Bennett
I like this comment: "Fireworks are illegal inside the city limits, but people have them anyway. "We don't typically respond to reports of fireworks," Lt. Nollette told the June 8 community meeting, "because we just don't have the bodies." But, if people are shooting off fireworks in ways that might cause a fire, she added, you should call 9-1-1."
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I am so buying stock in Asus. They continue to impress me with each new model they release. 1005HA is a killer netbook. Can't wait for the next gen which will hopefully pair the N280 Atom chip with the nVidia Ion. Can't wait for DVI support.
@Alfredo - I have 3 of the 1000HE models. Main difference: full size right shift key, bigger battery (10.5 hours supposedly), and it's a lot slimmer and sleeker than the HE,
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
One more big diff - the multi-touch mouse pad and key are pretty much built into the shell now. Single mouse button.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
They also changed the hinge design and moved away from the circular hinges and replaced with a more recessed design.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I'll be using this one to stream the fireworks over Lake Union on Saturday.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wow. The touchpad is like nothing I've ever used. It's got tiny bumps on it. Going through XP setup now....
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
The screen seems a lot brighter and crisper too as compared to the 1000HE
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another difference - the power input is on the left side as is the VGA out, single USB, and laptop lock.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another diff: There are only 2 buttons above the row of function keys - one for power (on the right) and one the interestingly enough - turns the touchpad on/off.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Hmmm. Looking at their historical numbers, seems pretty flat Alex. I'm into real estate, not stock, so I wouldn't know the first thing about how to really assess their performance / potential.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
@Richard - I think you should be able to. I swapped one of mine from my 1000HE just now. As long as it's 200 pin DDR2 RAM, you should be all set.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Click-dragging is going to take some getting used to with the new single mouse button.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg