I have another confession: I still cannot get out of the habit of using Google Reader over feedly, even though feedly has been available in Chrome for several weeks.
I only read parts of my feeds/folders now (as I just don't have the time to read all of it) and find GReader itself much easier to navigate around.
- Kol Tregaskes
Someone entice me to use feedly over GReader. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Ain't gonna be me either. The folders in GR help greatly because the content of some folders can be skimmed in list view since several feeds have duplicates in them. I tried feedly but soon turned back to GR.
- Polly Potter
What I really like about feedly is that I feel a lot less "unread guilt". The item count is in an easily-ignorable light grey, and a single click marks everything read.
- invariant - farewell FF
@kol: a lot of existing Google Reader users prefer the GR UI because of the ability to scan articles, feeds and folders quickly. A few leverage the live sync and use both (scan the digest and finish the heavy reading in Google Reader). Others are looking for a slower, more fun experience and prefer the feedly magazine-like UI. People who are new to RSS are often in that third category and those are the people we are going after.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I'm leaning more towards a netbook now (over a mobile phone). I'll be able to work on a netbook far faster than I ever could on a mobile phone.
- Kol Tregaskes
I think most netbooks run Win7 pretty well. I was running it on a Dell Mini 9 with 1GB ram and an 8GB SSD and it wasn't terrible. Win7 is the first version of windows that's more efficient than it's predecessor.
- invariant - farewell FF
Yeah, it's the best OS from Windows.
- Kol Tregaskes
Go for it. I had a NC10 before upgrading to an Insprion 11z. Great build quality and overall look.
- Adi
"Zelda creator doesn’t have the qualifications required to work at Nintendo today"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
It may be true for big organizations but plenty of companies in the game industry will hire you if you have demonstrable ability (good artwork or demo).
- invariant - farewell FF
Another word and the forces will abolish all forms of Cilantro on this planet called Earth, message received from Planet Janet
- Janet
Message to Planet Janet: you know you love it with cilantro, baby.
- Steven Perez
Now see this is the interesting thing: if anybody posts, then you have to. So if everybody keeps posting, you'll just have to keep up with us. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
- CAJ, somewhere else
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ALL SUGAR AND SPICE AND EVERYTHING NICE. Argue that, and let's see how mean you really wanna be. In the meantime, my head hurts so discuss this amongst yourselves. You can summarize it for me later.
- pea
Debating tip: never try to get in the last word. Always give your opponent the opportunity to get in the last word. By some sort of mysterious karmic law, your persuasiveness will improve immeasurably. :)
- Sean McBride
Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh!!! As long as he doesn't respond.
- Jimminy
This is a point that can never be proved, nor disproved until all but one of us are dead.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
So... it's kind of like a "tontine" but with a pretty weak payoff?
- Mark Jepsen
Hmmm, actually, it only needs to continue until Steven Perez is dead (of very old age, i of course hope). Our victory is guaranteed. Of course, if friendfeed gets eaten by fb, it's just going to be a race to get the last comment in before the site goes down.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
It's okay, he's got a Catch-22 now. Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh, so long as he doesn't respond. And we all know he refutes his Bunneh status.
- Jimminy
It was real hawt in the town that night! IF I EDIT 18 hours later like now - is your last still last if comments are disabled? A hawt question.
- L Stephen Cleary
Steven is a Bunneh!!! He responded when I said he wasn't. Bunneh's can win if they want.
- Jimminy
Steven, I'm sure that not even you would resort to cheating to get the last word. I vote we just find the comment limit. It's gonna be a number ending in '0'
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
You did see where I said that I like my food scared and running, yeah? Mmmmm, ferret-ka-bobs ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
I do indeed see where this is headed, and no sir, I don't like it. *calls upon the forces of Voltron
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Sadly, the only Voltron to heed your call is the vehicle Voltron. And I disabled that yo-yo by pulling out the sparks plugs in the car feet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And what is yo-yo code for in that last statement?
- pea
It's an old Navajo word for "punk-ass bitch".
- Steven Perez
from IM
very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think friendfeed only put the extra "Add comment" link at the bottom of threads because of this specific thread. It took me a full 20 seconds to scroll from one end of it to the other.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
hmm... 800+ comments on this thread, and this is my first, and probably last comment on this thread. I wonder should I read all the comments, or just post?
- Mike Nencetti
Are you guys still trying to win?
- Steven Perez
from IM
23 years from now, Steven will still check his MSGoogle MyFriendFace feed every morning so he can respond to this post with 3,137,783 comments...
- joe is...
from iPod
After half a month there must have been moment you thought it would not be a real big deal if you eventually should NOT have the last word, I suppose?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Now that you've nearly reached 1100 comments, I realized that I hadn't officially "liked" this yet! Error rectified, though you're clearly a comment whore, you show great panache while doing so!
- Mark Jepsen
Ohhh, you mean that place, which is totally faked by a #viciousbunneh who was in cahoots with the government in taking all the alfalfa plants into an underground hidden bunker.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I will allow you to have the last word. But to take that last word you are surrendering your honor to a den of sightless whores.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Eventually, the whole thread will go backwards to the beginning.
- WorldofHiglet
That sounds like more fun than I imagine you wanted it to.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It was a test. Honor is pride. A den of sightless whores is merely an event that you will carry forever. You have attained the 7th level of enlightenment.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Considering that this thread has only been around since August, and has been shut down for the last two months, that's not too bad.
- Steven Perez
from IM
2012 is just the begining of the 13th Baktun, the long cont calendar doesn't actually run out until sometimes after 4772, that is of course if you stick with only Baktuns and don't use the other 4 higher counts, I just think FF will end in 4217 on planet Tersanzar :)
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Ah, right thread. In that thread, it's asked what you think you smell like. In this thread, I told you what I think you smell like.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think this has lasted long enough. We already know what has to be the last word, it's already in the original quote. I will put it as the closing comment. I think we will all feel relieved we can now carry on to do greater things. For ourselves, our loved ones and the world.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
"Well, are they? It’s a topic which has been discussed a lot during the first half of 2009 and depending on who you ask and when you’ll get a series of different answers – and I’ve definitely been guilty of trying to persuade others one way or the other, which is due to more than just my argumentative nature. It’s a complex issue." EDIT: Listen from 39mins on their podcast about this: http://www.bit-tech.net/blog...
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
The PC gaming market has changed. It is a great place for indie game development, casual games, and for titles of certain other genres. Consoles allow for much easier development (if you can get permission to work with the dev hardware) and provide superior copy protection. PC gaming will never die as long as there's a kid out there with an idea for the best game ever, because options for making it on a console are limited if you're not a professional.
- invariant - farewell FF
I wish I could answer this but I've not played anything on the PC for 6 years or more and not been following games in general for a similar time. I did get Sims 3 but only recently. Give me 6 months and I'll give you answer. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
all my gaming for 5+ years has been pc-based, and there have still been many ongoing changes
- sentientgames
Just laugh :D If pc gaming dies, how can intel,amd and nvidia and related technology companies keep the sales fit -and so increased ?- Meanwhile nearly all of entertainment dev. companies are funded by nVidia and intel rather than sales shares.
- Acharad Sami vanJoulee
So when you see people selling 7.1 surround sound headphones, don't waste your money. It's very difficult to even do 5.1 properly with headphones.
- Alex Scoble
Is it even possible to do 7.1 with non-traditional headphones?
- Jason Huebel
What counts as traditional headphones? It's a little vague given that at some point in the future most things we view as technological impossibilities are perhaps a possibility.
- Matt Plummer
Yeah, I meant headphones that have two cups (cans) that cover your ears.
- Alex Scoble
I mean, 7.1 requires 7 high/midrange and one bass, correct? All headphones are by definition stereo-only. They may /simulate/ surround sound, but they really can't be.
- Jason Huebel
I have the Ear Force dolby 5.1 headphones - total junk. No spatiality (is that a word?) at all.
- invariant - farewell FF
Yeah, I think that's right, Invariant. And Jason, not all headphones are stereo. The newer 5.1 headphones from the likes of Tritton have 3 drivers for each year to approximate front side and rear speakers, but it doesn't work all that well.
- Alex Scoble
The reason it doesn't work ... is that the effect of surround sound isn't based JUST on having sounds come from all around your ears. Real (surround) sound changes when you move your head. Wake me up when your headphones don't just have multiple speakers in each ear, but actually pay attention to where my head is facing. Incidentally, how hard can this be? Using some IR lights on the sides of the cans they should be able to track my head position _enough_ for that, right?
- Joel Bennett
There's already tech which tracks head movement in games - TrackIR, so yeah. Having software use that information to drive audio is totally possible, and a great idea you need to go copyright.
- Matt Plummer
We've created true acoustical 5.1 surround sound headphones and they're anything from traditional, although they may not be 7.1 it would be possible to expand our unique design to create 7.1 headphones. You can check them out for yourself at www.psykoaudio.com
- Psyko Audio
No 7.1 surround on traditional headphones? You can if they're made with the magic of Monster Cable wiring. He-llo!
- Micah Wittman
it actually is possible for a stereo headset to convey spatial orientation, based on the brain's ability to recognize slight delays between the hearing in each ear
- Mike Chelen
Mike, the sound effect at Disney's The Hall of Presidents attraction achieved with headphones was quite something when I experienced it 2 years ago. I'm not sure what acoustic technology their using though (and can't find any info online either).
- Micah Wittman
Mike, For the Psyko 5.1's we've placed the speakers above the bridge of the headphone, and so there a delay is that is introduced to increase spacial awareness of sounds, also our headphones provide a natural volume attenuation, and natural frequency reflections, the 3 key components to detecting sound directionality. http://www.psykoaudio.com/index...
- Psyko Audio
Micah - I have some monster cables for sale... let me check my closet for spare wire hangers.
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Micah, disney definitely uses some cool technical methods, and combined with their dramatic skills the effects can be pretty compelling. recall some effects in their haunted house that were kind of creepy, and also had me wondering, how was it done?
- Mike Chelen
Mike, regarding Haunted Mansion, read "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom". It's a free book http://craphound.com/down... (I've got it on my iphone :)
- Micah Wittman
Can you name some good computer gaming blogs (for opinion and comments, perhaps from game developer individuals or columnists)? For example The Gurdian's: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
Ars Technicia is very well written. They aren't about the scoop like joystiq/kotaku/destructoid, so their posts come much later, but I find the quality of writing and insight makes up for it.
- Clark Baumgartner 蔵明 馬武刀
from iPhone
"Independent videogame developers across the world are concerned at the lack of deals being made in the business as publishers pull back to focus on core products."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Leo confirmed today that someone he nominated got accepted. They are doing it by hand so, yeah...
- Johnny Worthington
I don't believe I was in the 100K list. Tad and I were nominated on the day they went out and got in the day after the first round of invites. But we were nominated by someone at Google, so that may have made a difference. That being the case we both also were able to give out 8 nominations.
- Lindsay
Did Leo say if that person had invites to give out?
- Kol Tregaskes
How did Leo confirm it btw? I wouldn't know how to tell? I only believe I was the first 100k as it's been said that only the first 100k get invites to give away.
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol - Did my comment not help? Tad and I were nominated but we also had nominations to give out.
- Lindsay
no. Will patiently wait for one. No hurry
- lelapin
I was nominated by two people. I got my invite on Oct, 2. It was less than 24 hours.
- Mike Fruchter
Lindsay, Mike so you didn't register in any other way? You got access purely on the invite?
- Kol Tregaskes
I submitted for an invite a LOOONNNG time ago as soon as I found out about Wave. But I know that I got in via nomination because the Google employee is a friend of a friend that I didn't previously have in my contacts list and he showed up when I first got into Wave. No other way we would have connected. Update - just confirmed... my invite email says that he nominated me... so yeah, I wasn't in the first 100K.
- Lindsay
Guys, if Lindsay was already in the first 100k queue and someone nominated her, wouldn't she be bumped up? That's how it works, I think.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
But would my invite email say I was invited by someone if I was in the first 100K?
- Lindsay
Just saw your edit Lindsay so it actually says in the e-mail that you were nominated. OK, I don't have that.
- Kol Tregaskes
My invite email says: "Thank you for signing up to give us early feedback on Google Wave. We're happy to give you access to Google Wave and are enlisting your help to improve the product."
- Kol Tregaskes
I was nominated 3 days ago and I'm still waiting.
- Mike Doeff
Mine says "[name withheld] has invited you to preview Google Wave!" Of course, with the name of the person who graciously nominated me.
- Lindsay
I applied for an invite when Google fist announced Wave but guess as just an ordinary Internet user was not high enough up the pecking order to get one. Will have to wait until it is opened to the general population. Pity as i wanted to asses it for elearning.
- Daryl Hunt on FF
Same here but I was luckily in the first 100k. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm still waiting for my invite. Tad kindly nominated me.
- Roberto Bonini
I have been sent one, but not yet received it.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
I think there where just 10-20k users invited yet - I guess, the 100k invites will only be reached in 6-8 weeks! They are doing it manually! *doh* This is so stupid!
- Dieter Schwarz
I was nominated 3-4 days ago, haven't got my invite yet :/
- Patrik Johansson
My nomination was from someone who themselves had been nominated. They received eight invites to send out and I believe none if the eight that they sent out (mine included) have been received yet. My nomination/invite was sent last Thursday.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
I submitted for an invite a long time ago, but didn't receive access. I was nominated by someone days ago, yet haven't received an invitation.
- Irma Vermaat
Irma I'm in the same situation. I'm still hopeful. . .
- Heather Solos
“Patience is a virtue, Possess it if you can, Seldom found in woman, Never found in man.” I don't have an invite yet either. Trying this patience thing. Not sure it's working for me. ;)
- Eoghann Irving
I was nominated on the 100k day -- still waiting, like a kid waiting for Christmas.
- Rob Fisher
I was in the 100k and invited two people the next day. As of yesterday neither had gotten their invite. I'm thinking they'll start flowing after the weekend if they're really being done by hand.
- invariant - farewell FF
Live now: This Week In Google 10 with Gina Trapani, Jeff Jarvis, Kevin Marks, and Marshall Kirkpatrick on Google Wave. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
I haven't heard a single positive thing about Wave yet. Still want to try it for myself, but it's interesting that there's so little positive buzz.
- Jeff Harbert
I can't wait to use GW. Still waiting for my invite to show up in my inbox.
- Danny Minick
How can I get on one o' dem monitors someday... do I gotta be famous enough than i already r?
- Danny Minick
From what I have read (no invite yet) if I can run this on my own server for my 5 team members at work, THIS is the solution I have been looking for.
- Johnny Worthington
Also, Scoble missed the point. It's not social media or a broadcast medium. 100,000 would never be manageble team in any situation. Wave has power in small numbers. This beta is a free-for-all.
- Johnny Worthington
How do you get to the real time 'chat room' style view for the TWIG friend feed? No wonder this site hasn't taken off, the learning curve is unbelievable
- Matt
Just had a problem with Wave: I opened a window to ping Leo asking to join the TWig Wave, but I decided not to bother him. Unfortunately, as I saw on the live video, it already had -- he saw a flashing ping window before I even started typing! (I decided to type out a message at that point, seeing as it had already appeared on his screen.)
- Eric Geller
Can you run your own Wave server? wave.google.com isn't the only place this will exist
- Johnny Worthington
LOL, I'm still just trying to join Google Wave. Dang invite still isn't here yet.
- Danny Minick
I'm pretty sure I'm scobleizer@googlewave.com
- Robert Scoble
If I can run my own instance, and control l those who go into it. NO SPAM.
- Johnny Worthington
I think you guys are missing the point. Wave is not a replacement for email it's a new solution to an old problem - how do I communicate efficiently with people around the world?
- Jan Cifra
Google must be doing something right to get their own segment on TWiT network. LOL
- Danny Minick
Gina speaks so fast my brain can't keep up ><
- ralphsaunders
Seems to me like we're thinking of Wave in terms of every other open social media app out there. Like here in FriendFeed, or Twitter, or even email.
- Jeff Harbert
Doesn't wave cover the email paradigm well? Especially if you consider the federation/protocol part?
- Jan Cifra
Big 3: Google, Microsoft, Apple, not maybe in that order. So deserves its TWIT show
- Mark
Leo, can you talk about running your own Wave server. That would solve a lot of the issues with noise and unwanted people
- Johnny Worthington
stil waiting for my wave invite, wish i knew what was being talked about here
- Tate DA FF MVP
What about a This Week in Bing. TWiB. Haha.
- Danny Minick
Now I really understand why FriendFeed didn't add multi-level threading.
- Robert Scoble
Mark, thats what the Gilmour Gang was
- ralphsaunders
Danny, as Mark pointed out and Leo has stated... Apple and MS are both essentially platforms or ecosystems, as is Google... so it makes sense and just as in his other shows, the content isn't alwayslimited to google
- Gabe
Unlike Twitter you have to have other people who are already engaged to use Wave, so it will start as a business / org app
- Matt
the smartest people in the world are on the TWiT network ;)
- Mark
A good use for Wave would be for the TWiT shows. You can pause the live stream and it will buffer from where you left off but the Friendfeed room moves on so you are behind the chat and have no idea what is being talked about. Could make a wave client for TWiT shows so you can "playback" what you missed in synch with the video stream.
- Mark
Btw can you sort Waves based on contacts? The "Inbox" UI seems very confusing if you consider you could have hundreds of contacts - it could get messy.
- Jan Cifra
Hisham: If you have ever seen a successful wiki implementation, at work for example, the knowledge capture is amazing. I can see Wave taking this to the next level - especially the real time component.
- Marshall Huwe
I have Google Voice. So I hope I get Google Wave too as well.
- Danny Minick
This sounds like all colleges would replace its whiteboards with this, what will it cost, if any??
- Rick
Now THAT gave us a taste of what will be cool about Google Wave. But they never should have pitched it as a "new email."
- Robert Scoble
At university we have used wave to take notes at lectures, and by using it we can share thoughts of it and sound files from the lecture feks
- Devlin
It would be more interesting if voice dialog transcribed into conference - who said what
- notagolfer
Gabe, probably the same time it takes the transcription currently.
- Jeff Harbert
Wave *MIGHT* be an excellent tool for education. Unfortunately, I don't have access to it. Hope that Google will give all their Google Apps for Edu accounts access to it right away.
- Rom Feria
Anyone need an invite? I'll give out 3 of mine. Warning, it seems to take a while (days) for them to go out.
- invariant - farewell FF
Kevin is the smartest guy on the GG and now on TWiG
- Mark
Jeff, I meant before google integrates it into wave... unless it already is?
- Gabe
"Remember how they used the word 'wave' in Firefly? I wonder if that's where the Wave team got the name." That would be pretty funny, Jeff Harbert.
- Matt Cutts
Gabe, dunno if it's currently integrated or not.
- Jeff Harbert
@Hisham: do you have patients? do you do research? do you have staff? do you have peers? Don't know your situation obviously, but I can see lots of opportunity for knowledge capture, realtime collaboration, etc.
- Marshall Huwe
Ok, Simon Wicks, notagolfer, Rick and +1 for Jeff Harbert: I'll follow you, DM me an email address to use.
- invariant - farewell FF
Ribbit gadget it's really useful, imagine if TWiG can be segmented in episodes and each segment is a threaded wave, it will be easier for people that were not able to follow it in realtime, catch-up with the content/comments generated
- Alberto Saavedra
hi @mattcutts, you should invite @jewelstaithe to Wave...
- Kevin Marks
Thats an interesting Q's, how will Google integrate this into all its other Apps
- Rick
is scoble the only one not excited about Wave ?
- Mark
Here is why it will replace email. I send back and forth 6 emails about a subject to a person on my team. hen we have to bring someone else in on the conversation. They then have 12 emails to read before they catch up.
- Johnny Worthington
Mark: Re: Kevin Marks...And he's a really cool, laid back, and approachable in person.
- James Williams
Mark: no, I've gotten hundreds of replies from people who don't get it either.
- Robert Scoble
why is "Leo Laporte Makes $1" a trending topic on twitter???????????????
- Mark
@ribbit could add transcription of the calls into the wave, but there is a lag to do it
- Kevin Marks
Mark: see Mashable. Leo gave a talk at the Online News Association earlier today where he announced that his revenues are more than a million a year.
- Robert Scoble
re: ribbit gadget transcription: And it doesn't like some British accents ;)
- James Williams
Wow over $1million profit in a year after paying his staff!
- Mark
Jeff: Not much I think. It'll be just another place to check. But that could change if Android/iPhone gets a native client with a slick interface.
- James Williams
Not profit, Mark. Leo's statement was $350 K in costs and $1.5 mil in revenue.
- Debi Jones
when is Google Wave coming invites Gmail users ?
- Michael Holzinger
the more money Leo makes the more likely we will have a new studio for TWiT Live soon with 480p stream and downloadable videos and more camera angles and new shows
- Mark
Quentin: same here. 3 nominations incoming, no sign from Google...
- Holger Eilhard
Johnny: Let's figure out the user exp first before they make it mainstream. Wave doesn't fit their model where they choose to broadcast but not engage.
- James Williams
James: Additionally it creates a hype... It's all like Gmail again :)
- Holger Eilhard
Usually if I miss a show, I keep watching live.twit.tv, I like serendipity of it :)
- notagolfer
How about live streaming in a Wave? That could revolutionize TWiT.
- Jeff Harbert
but I bet within a year or two TWiT live has 480p streaming and downloads
- Mark
But if I run my own server... Can't I control who joins?
- Johnny Worthington
Jeff: I would think so, I've seen group viewing in a wave (start/stop/ff/rewind of videos was synchronized and allowed video comments)
- James Williams
Does having more monitors really improve your productivity?
- tytycoon
Mark: It's the sweet spot for pricing. Quite a bit less $$$ than 24".
- Jeff Harbert
Oh Leo was your father on radio in Providence?
- Andrew Euell
I'm loving how Jeff Jarvis is thinking about the X PRIZE model for collaborative innovation. Here's his post on the subject he just discussed http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009... We're really trying to get that thought process out there.
- Mark Krynsky
When im coding at work, multiple monitors are awesome !!!
- Kashif Khan
Kevin is right. I'm excited about having my news curated by my social graph. Here's a service that is providing that info based on links created by who I follow on Twitter http://www.twittertim.es/krynsky
- Mark Krynsky
yeah that "Old Pakistan" comment didnt compute here either
- Kashif Khan
I find that by the end of this show I always have a million links open from both the chat and the show. What do you folks use to organize these things? Read it later? http://www.ideashower.com/ideas...
- tytycoon
Oh gosh, Dvorak was right about Bing, Yahoo and Google... :)
- Holger Eilhard
Leo, have you ever tried to Skype with someone who is in China for the live stream? Wonder if there would be any network issues doing a stream from China.
- Debi Jones
Tease: Today on TWiG: wave wave and nothing but wave. Marshal Kirkpatrick, Kevin Marks, join our rgulars Gina Trapani and Jeff Jarvis to take a look at Google Wave. Everything's shiny captain, This Week In Google is coming up next
- Leo Laporte
No wonder you have so many hats in your studio. You had to wear them all!
- shelter watch
Watched your ONA speech, it was excellent. Makes me wonder why you're not on more tech conference speaker rosters?
- Debi Jones
That is pretty epic data transfers with the flash drives. Did you ever have any problems with backing up? have you ever lost a show?
- tytycoon
Josh and I use dropbox and we take turns each week to edit. Juggling time for that with family and work is tough
- Johnny Worthington
I think Fibre Chanel for just a few stations is VERY over rated. ISCSI or NFS is quite enough if properly designed, and a fraction of the cost.
- kevin
I love dropbox. I use it for everything
- tytycoon
Leo, I was wondering if you should have single 'After Hours' post on twit-conversations so we don't fill show threads with off-topic chat
- Johnny Worthington
I thought you were moving to a storefront?
- shelter watch
This cottage looks so much nicer than what I imagine a storefront would be
- tytycoon
That's a lovely, historic location that you are in now. I love architecture history.
- shelter watch
I quess $30 is nit bad if you can actually use this to be productive. Thanks tytycoon
- Johann Diaz
from Nambu
Finally getting a chance to listen to this... Just to clarify, Wave is not really extension to XMPP per se. The federation protocol between Wave servers is XMPP based, but the client-server communication (in this case the communication between your browser and the Wave server) isn't using XMPP. I believe that at the moment it's a proprietary format for exchanging JSON. There's some discussion both on Wave and in Google Groups about standardization, but it's distinct from server-server federation right now.
- Ken Sheppardson
Hello lovely subscribers - ever wonder why the !@#$ you added me in the first place? Sorry about that, but I do have a few Google Wave invites to give out. Hit me up if you'd like one.
"Sometimes you look at something that a large organization full of smart people does and are left only to stammer… “Really? Nobody in the whole damn place had the good sense to kibosh this?” Such is the case with this new ad for GE clean coal featuring babelicious coal miners walking around underground pretending to pickax out some bituminous. These “model” miners are meant to represent, ahem, the fact that coal is going to save us from global warming. The spot is so incredibly stupid at so many levels that we feel inadequate to the task of unpacking that stupidity. But, like an aspiring actress pretending to mine coal, we will at least attempt to chip away at it."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
I think someone at GE's ad agency is having an uproarious laugh at what they managed to get greenlit by clueless execs. There is no way that all of the delicious irony in that commercial was unintentional. "Sixteen Tons" as the backing track? Inspired.
- invariant - farewell FF
Not bloody anytime soon for me. I haven't even gotten to 7.1 yet. And 2 vertical audio channels? What the hell for? Do you see that crap in a theater? No...so why would I put it in my home theater?
- Alex Scoble
I already have smell-o-vision. It's called a dog. However, the smell track and the movie are often out of sync.
- Kevin Pedraja
When money becomes no object and after I have been able to give millions to charities of my choice. And if I feel like it even matters after all of that. I am at 5.1 right now and the world keeps a turnin'.
- Josh Haley
I still have 5.1 in my two main video spots (and 2.1 in my office). The point of diminishing returns has already been reached
- LogEx
Surround sound? Seems like it could be cool. I have "single driver" fanatic friends that are offended that my stereo speakers have three drivers each in them. Some of the best music ever recorded had exactly one mic in the center of the room.
- Jason Wehmhoener
That being said, I think it would be extremely fun to get into surround sound live recording... when I'm rich and famous.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, not for music (I'm more of a purist there), but if you like movies it's really nice for the immersive experience.
- LogEx
Single drivers? It's impossible to build a single driver that can output the audible range of sound. Impossible. At least as of yet.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Dude, your audible range dropped by 30% when you hit about age 20.
- LogEx
I can still hear 20k hz tones...so no. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Very unusual, most 20-somethings can't hear anything above 16k at all let alone at any reasonable/intended volume.
- LogEx
Yeah, i've always been hypersensitive to high pitched frequency sound.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Please see my previous statement...There's a reason why just about every speaker on the market is a 2 way or three way. I have yet to see a high end single driver system. You just can't do it without sounding like utter crap. And if it sounds like crap, it's impossible to do.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
A lot has to do with the cabinet. I'm pretty sure I can tell the difference between crap and non-crap.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Keep in mind, my dad (a cabinet maker) was making speakers in the 70s. Drivers really sucked back then. A LOT of thought went into cabinet acoustics. I was raised on that stuff.
- Jason Wehmhoener
A lot of people think that concentric speakers sound good, but you'll never see a concentric speaker or single driver speaker EVER make THX Ultra spec. It just can't be done.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
See, I think technology is really cool, lots of fun, and we benefit greatly from its advances. I refuse to be told what I like, however. I think a lot of this acronym soup is a complex sales pitch for things we don't need. See above comments about "diminishing returns".
- Jason Wehmhoener
I didn't tell you what you like. :) Just told you that you can't do quality home theater (20 to 20k hz) using a single driver system.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
hahaha! surround sound? dude, I don't even have a stereo in my car
- Nathan Rein
There are a lot of reasons why the current 3 way system (an array of 2 way speakers and subwoofers) is still the best way to do audio. Anyhow, if anyone else would like to answer the poll, please do so.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yeah, but you did try to tell me what I like, using the word "quality" and giving that a specific technical definition. I have a pretty good time watching movies in stereo.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I'm downgraded to 2.1. Wiring is a pain.
- Rodfather
I'm at 3.1 right now, mostly due to the wide open space of my previous living room that made rear channel speakers impractical. I'll be upgrading to 5.1 soon. Beyond that I'm not sure I see the point of having even more channels. Unless you have a full size, pro-built theater room anything more than 6.1 (and maybe even 5.1) really won't make a difference to your ears in terms of directionality
- LANjackal
I guess I would have to own surround sound first.
- Joe
I would have to get past TV 1.00 .... dont watch much TV ... either at Apt or at work ..
- johnpiercy
I just pay actors and musicians to perform live when I'm in the mood to be entertained. There is a barracks on my estate where the performers reside and practice when not performing. Changing from one 'channel' to the next takes about 2 minutes. Any longer than that and I order additional floggings for the lot of them.
- Morgan Haley
You can always try the 'Doobie Surround 420' system. You cash a couple bong loads of chronic and EVERYTHING sounds like it's coming from inside your skull. The one side effect is a wicked case of the munchies.
- Morgan Haley
Upgrade from what? I just have an MP3 player with eye-phones. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm going straight for 10.2 - "Twice as good as 5.1!": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... And they're apparently quite modest (or can't count), since it actually requires 14 seperate speakers.
- invariant - farewell FF
I'm still on an old Dolby Surround System. My two speakers and the bass kick ass, I know I need to update one day...
- Terry O'Fee
I still haven't upgraded to 5.1. Stereo is enough for me.
- Jason Huebel
My point has been made, hehe. I don't know of anyone who's pining for 9.2 and yet these systems are coming very soon.
- Alex Scoble
I would say that the big heads at Dolby, DTS, etc. did not do their market research when they decided to productize 9.2 home theater, because I don't know anyone who's a home theater enthusiast who's looking forward to this.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Honest question: Outside of people with dedicated home theater rooms, are the sound field enhancements that come with 9.2 even noticeable in the "average" living room? And how much has 7.1 even been adopted?
- Kevin Pedraja
Good question, Kevin. Since movies are not recorded with a vertical channel, at least not to my knowledge, in practice there should be no benefit with the added speakers. And since home theater sales, outside of home theater in a box sales, have dropped significantly in recent years, I doubt that 7.1 adoption has been very robust. Anecdotally, I know of no one who has a 7.1 system.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
9.2?! So ah, where are you supposed to put the 2 extra speakers?
- LarchOye
In front, they go above the left and right speakers.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I've used 7.1 and 5.1 arrangements using the same equipment and room and can't find much difference. I can't believe that adding another 2 would make a detectable improvement.
- Bill Strathearn
Sticking with 5.1 for a while, even though my gear can do 7.1.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Tabata's result was a sound similar to that made by the flying cars, or Spinners, from Blade Runner, Ridley Scott's futuristic 1982 release set in 2019. I would have prefered the noise made by George Jetson's car, but I suppose I'll still be able to go on with my life anyway. Regulations and recommendations for the minimum noise level of an electric car are currently in the works in both Japan and the U.S.
After living with the Panasonic 58" V10 plasma for 2 weeks, I just can't recommend it to anyone. I can't talk about the other plasmas in their product lineup, but this one is just sub par. Even Cassie thinks that the picture isn't very sharp. And then of course there's the flicker thing, but that's a problem with all plasmas...
Yes you do, you just don't notice it. It's a thing with all plasmas...an artifact of the technology.
- Alex Scoble
So Plasma = Headache. Where to next? LCD=Motion Smear. Does motion smear give you headaches or does it simply make you violently nauseous? Is it possible to look at a movie on any of these technologies free from unpleasant symptoms or should I just stick with my aging Tosh Rear Projector?
- JSLeFanu
I had to master this a few weeks ago. Very helpful!
- Michael Fidler
Ok, I know I'm gonna feel like an idiot but...I don't have that button, and I even set up a list in case that would turn it on. What'd I miss?
- invariant - farewell FF
The padlock should be on your wall right next to the "Share" button. If you click the padlock, the dropdown shows up. It's also on the bookmarklet. Personally, I don't really care. Everything I share is safe for all to see.
- Mona Nomura
Hmm, I'm not getting that. Wonder if there is a related privacy setting somewhere.
- invariant - farewell FF
Ok, not sure I'm ready for "full frontal profile", but thanks for figuring out what was going on Mona!
- invariant - farewell FF
My pleasure - hopefully those settings will be applicable to all, regardless of what level of privacy is set :)
- Mona Nomura
I've added a couple of folks from Friendfeed to mine, but was grouping them into a friendfeed group, and not having them show in the main feed. I forgot to uncheck that box for a couple now they're in my main news feed. Do you know how to shift them? You can select the group and hit edit to add and remove people, but you cant do that with the main news feed..
- Simon Wicks
It's their, it's limited, and it sucks for what I want it to do (it doesn't)
- Michael W. May
Simon - don't know how to batch uncheck, just hide when you see them float through? Don't really hide, since I have my groupings down :) MWM, sorry to hear that :( Apostol - that's the way to do it!
- Mona Nomura
If I hide them they get hidden from the friendfeed group i set up as well. Such a stupid system!
- Simon Wicks
Simon, have you tried hiding, then unhiding in the groups? Though I agree - what a unintuitive system - can't find that checkbox either.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I wonder if the complexity is so they can catch the rookies and sell their private info. Well you didnt check the block on sub page 329 which said we cant use your personal credit card to buy shots. :D
- Moved to Facebook
It's only 3am - first order of biz is a 9am conference call, don't have to wake up for another six-ish hours!
- Mona Nomura
How can i hide a whole group? Another stupid thing is not being able to just delete the goups you make. I have loads that i dont want anymore, with no one in them, and no way to shift them.
- Simon Wicks
Six hours?!?!?!!?! My bad. That's loads of time. I like your style! Clearly you aren't a run-of-the-mill web vixen, you're the real deal. Mountain Dew and potato chips.
- Zach Landes
Simon, you can't hide a whole group but to delete: Friends -> And you'll see three buttons to Create, Edit, or Delete (lists). To shift, you can push them into more than one list at a time so push them into the list and delete the list you don't want (so time consuming). Zach - Diet Pepsi and potato chips! ;)
- Mona Nomura
Ah, ok. Have deleted my unwanted groups now, but still cant see a way to get them out of the main feed, and only into the friendfeed group with the others. It says they're part of 2 lists, but clicking the dropdown only says friendfeed :)
- Simon Wicks
Don't know what to say. Maaan Facebook should hire me as a community manager until they simplify their UX. I have childhood friends messaging asking me to help them with the settings LOL
- Mona Nomura
Haha, thanks for trying though. I thought i'd got it cracked, but no. Its still either hide them completely, or have them in the main news feed as well as the friendfeed group.
- Simon Wicks
OR you can completely navigate via main feed - the problem is, mobile. Facebook mobile (for the iPhone) SUCKS. m.facebook.com through Safari is better. It enables 'like'ing and even enables commenting for the Selective Twitter posts (which iphone.facebook.com and the Facebook app are not capable of doing)
- Mona Nomura
Yup. Still waiting for that new version of the app they showed us what seems like a year ago now.
- Simon Wicks
Oh noes! That was supposed to be secret! Now everyone knows about "Privacy." :(
- John Wang
They changed the padlock name to "Publisher Content Default" btw.
- Mona Nomura
I agree Mona. I would guess that 99% of FB users don't use these features though
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
thanks for the headsup Mona, I also couldn't find the padlock symbol until reading this....
- Franz Sittampalam
188 unread messages and 92 pending notifications!! Not the most avid of facebook users, are we? :P
- Adrian Scicluna
Uhm.. I don't have the padlock thingy next to the Share button, btw.. O.o
- Adrian Scicluna
I just went back to it today after a couple weeks hiatus.
- Bryan R. Adams
I just wish they had a web service or something that worked with Safari
- Jesse Stay
Coach: I've been using it for a while. Not late at all. It's just that this new version finally nailed it for me and got me excited. Why? It shows friends. That's the main thing I liked about Google Reader.
- Robert Scoble
Thank you Robert @Jesse a few people have been able to get an experimental feedly for safari running (see http://blog.feedly.com/2009... ) Andre: I expect us to push out a Chrome version out in October.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I've said it before and I'll say it again; Google should buy feedly! It's my favorite app by far.
- Michael Fidler
@Michael: We would actually prefer to see Google Reader become a platform like twitter and feedly be one of the clients built in that ecosystem. For RSS to go mainstream, you are going to need a lot of different niche experiences to emerge.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Happy to hear feedly works for you, does Firefox? It runs_slowly_for_me...
- David Libby
The thing is utterly incomprehensible.
- Dominic Jones
Yeah. Feedly has been my homepage for a few months. Love it to death.
- Quasar
Feedly is fantastic. Not sure why more people aren't using it. I'd love to hear what the guys on TWIG think of it in particular.
- invariant - farewell FF
I just installed feedly last night and have just started using it. I'm looking forward to putting it through it's paces tonight. Looks very slick.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Feedly is one of my fave apps. Hardly look at google reader since I started using Feedly and so easy to cross post too!
- Ange Recchia/angesbiz
Edwin: definitely looking forward to it.
- motownmutt
I seem to get the Bad Feed error on every feed listing on the "featured sources" list. The main things work OK, but the side bar listings routinely give be feed errors.
- Keith Rowland
I am going to have to give this thing a try.
- Vadim Lavrusik
Feedly for Chrome, please? Pretty please?
- Craig Eddy
yay I can't wait to see it in Oct for Chrome!
- metalerik
@Keith. Yes. There was an encoding regression in a patch we pushed out this afternoon. This problem has been fixed in 2.x.014 and everything should be working correctly next time you restart firefox. Sorry for the inconvenience.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I was using Feedly a while ago and went back to Google Reader. It was just too painful to keep up with all my feeds.
- Jody Fanning
from twhirl
@feedly has completely taken over my use of google reader...
- Andy Bryant
Love, feedly, looking forward to trying the Safari version
- Kim Landwehr
from BuddyFeed
yeah feedly is great, but try the greasemonkey plugins for reader. i like enhanced black. when its late and dark and i just want to scan the internets its perfect on the eyes
- Robert Higgins
Feedly is severely broken for me. I can't get it to show all on the latest tab. The drop down that works on other tabs does nothing there.
- Otto
Sorry if this question is a rookie mistake, but pros/cons GoogleReader vs Feedly? THANKS.
- Jimmy Watson
As much of a home theater nut as I am, 9.2 surround sound? Not going there. These guys are shooting themselves in the foot. Instead of simplifying the experience, they keep making everything more complicated just to keep people on the upgrade train. Lame.
@LogEx: but what if you have hardwood floors? :P
- Rene Wirtz
Techno-fetishism. Although I think that conveying elevation information via sound would be nice, the realist in me says that the real advance will be in psycholinguistics and digital signal processing and that, when said real advance occurs, it will be based on the need to not have fifty speakers around you. That being said, for somebody who ought to care more, I've got crap audio. Best speakers in the house is a tiny set of 4.1 computer speakers in the geekroom.
- Wirehead
At this point, it basically smacks of so much marketing piffle...and they wonder why home audio sales have dropped off a cliff (except for HTIB sales)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Hiding speaker wire has a relatively easy solution. It's called walls.
- Cristo
I am still listening to a googlephonic stereo with a moonrock needle.
- Steve
Amen 2.1 FTW! Better yet, laptop+headphones FTW!
- Adrian
Cristo, no, even easier - it's called baseboard/trim
- Jesse Stay
I'm happy with my 2.1, thank you. :D
- Faraz Mullick
Jesse, when you put the speakers in the wall and ceiling like I did, you might as well have the wires in there too.
- Cristo
"ABC News is reporting that U.S. Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) has died at age 77. As of about 12:20 a.m. Chicago time Wednesday his death has not yet been confirmed by other media outlets."
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from Bookmarklet
in my view, any and every tattoo is deplorable, rather disgusting para-culture .. where did it start? in prison, with gangs? ... and tattoo on a lady is doubly questionable, and unelegant ... I mean, where is this world going to?
- Petr Buben
Petr - tattoos can be beautiful works of art, it's just that they often are not.
- Sparky
Petr, tattoos have been around as long as man. Tattoos have been found on mummified bodies from as early as neolithic times and present in cultures around the world. These are awesome though! I love bad tattoos :)
- Jason
Petr, you are very judgmental and I'm not just talking about this thread. You need to relax a little.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I am judgmental, yes ... relaxed,also ... was it over the line what I said about tattooes? ..../////. IF the comment was over the rules, would the esteemed author of the post please delete it :] other than that, thank you for the advice :]
- Petr Buben
This book is available for the Kindle. Seems like the pictures would be the main draw, and I don't find that the Kindle is all that great for pictures, at least illustrations. Anyone have the Kindle version want to comment?
- Andy Bakun
aaron - on the http://live.twit.tv page you should see a button that says open video in popout window - it's centered on the bottom of the video window (kind of hard to see)
- michael sean wright
I need a wave invite first! also so do all of my 'friends'
- Aaron Dyer
Still not sure if real time all alone would fit me. Too scared to miss sth.
- David Schmidt
@Aaron Dyer, yeah, as soon as its start is public, we'll have that slow conversion. Hope the Federation protocol does its thing.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
although it would serve only to confirm that no one reads my stuff ha!
- Aaron Dyer
just tuned in. loving the conversation i.e. "a blog post is an asset" been thinking alot about that lately and how most of my content is been more and more on someone else's social app. would love to have a distributed wordpress/blogger/etc social platform. maybe google connect has potential?
- Zeb Palmer
Google's index seams to be getting much nearer to being in real-time - this post is already in the results. http://bit.ly/D0Lai
- tw1
I think they just observe a few important sites like FB, FF, Twitter and so on more often. To index the whole web in that fashion might be just not possible with today's tools.
- David Schmidt
I really like this show guys! Really good.
- Devon Govett
I Wonder with all the use of social sites and rss readers.. do we really use google as much?
- Aaron Dyer
Aaron, I still use google for search, quite a bit, and although I haven't been using GReader all that much lately, I plan to move all the twitter feeds I follow into it for archival search
- Cornelius Toole
I'm sorry! How do you find FF difficult to use?
- MarK
thats a great idea Cornelius, i think you've just found me my Sunday project
- Aaron Dyer
I let go of being bothered by having +1000 items in several of my feeds a long time ago. I have too many feeds to clear them out everyday(and it not be my job). I hope I can use the google search infrastructure to find relevant stuff in the pile and every now again I just skim the most recent stuff.
- Cornelius Toole
I'd love to see a feature in GReader which recommends blogs according to a single blog I'm subscribed to, much like Amazon's "what people also buy" feature.
- David Schmidt
The user side of Wave is indeed a mess. My hope is that they have a server that makes realtime easy to implement for others that can do some truly cool things with it.
- invariant - farewell FF
aw :( I have quite enjoyed Google Wave? Have you actually played with it, or are you coming at this after seeing demos and that sorta thing?
- Adam Lasnik
No two people ever agree on design. Facebook is good? Microsoft? Somehow they got share (and then some). If Wave delivers the goods soon enough compared to other options, they have a fighting chance.
- LogEx
After playing with it, I agree its full of clutter. It's cool for a group of people and various conversations amongst friends but not a solution for public streams and a massive social network.
- Brandon Titus
Wave is meant for group of people and conversations among friends (Wave = email if it were developed now is what they kept saying when they introduced it).
- Chieze Okoye
Google understands social as well as anybody else, it's just that geek engineers ideas of social behavior are well, a little different
- Chad Albert
Patching up pieces and forcing them to talk to each other is not social. That's like...XP.
- Mona Nomura
wait, did you just analogize Google Wave to WINDOWS XP (Microsoft's most successful OS to date) in an attempt to show how big a fail Google Wave is? Come on, Mona. You can do better than that.
- Chieze Okoye
And what are we using as a yardstick in this conversation? A pre-alpha product that most people here haven't even used? We could talk about actual launched products and say, that, for instance, Orkut is a fairly successful SNS in certain markets that proves that Google *does* understand social.
- Chieze Okoye
I didn't want to say ME because that's kinda rude - Vista wouldn't make sense because they didn't build it from scratch. Actually, the analogy was for pulling all these services together and trying to make them talk to each other.
- Mona Nomura
Who said Google was a social company? They're an advertising company through and through ;)
- Andru Edwards
That's not fair. Wave hasn't even shipped - and it's an incremental tool.
- l0ckergn0me
Who said anything about needing to be fair? Look at all the components and how they are trying to be 'social' - aside from the Google evangelists (...I love the employees Adam, Roshan, Chieze, Erica, et al.) how are they being social? Oh, Orkut? What's that?
- Mona Nomura
ME would have been a much stronger analogy as I would say XP is actually an example of a fairly well done integration of many disparate technologies (at least from the user's point of view).
- Chieze Okoye
also, I am definitely not a Google employee. And I do like their products, but honestly, I think most of your comments re: Google and social (at least the ones based on Wave) are premature at best and misguided at worst (mainly since there's no product around for you test and come to the conclusions based on). Well, unless you're hiding a dev account in there somewhere that you didn't tell us about. 8^P
- Chieze Okoye
Um, ok http://images.google.com/images... See? Twitter clients on crack with a little bit of Flock. I don't know why people are excited about it (from a user perspective)
- Mona Nomura
*shrug* I don't know, Mona. As someone who is constantly on 40-50+ message long event and project planning email threads, I would kill for even a tiny bit of the promise of what Google has with Wave. I guess I saw how it can take what I do in Gmail and allow me to do it 100x better with collaboration, whereas you seem to be looking at it from a completely different angle.
- Chieze Okoye
btw, just to check 2 things: were you being snarky re: Orkut or do you not know what it is? and have you seen the Google Wave announcement video?
- Chieze Okoye
They are an advertising company, and they do things in that part of the company's best interest.
- Andru Edwards
Mona, I felt the same way when I first peeked at the interface. But having used it extensively at work, I've either gotten used to the UI or it's a lot less daunting when you're actually using it or both :). The real-time in *conversation* is far more useful (if a bit freaky) than I ever would have imagined. It's much closer to the way people actually *talk* when they're in a room...
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- Adam Lasnik
Son of a bitch - this is a busy topic... should have replied here. Twitter > FF in my brain. #Fail
- Enrique Gutierrez
As an underlying protocol, I think Wave is *incredibly* powerful. The first few iterations of the UI (including ours) will be (justifiably) rough around the edges until the user/developer community gets comfortable enough with the technology that they know what to do with it.
- Aaron D'Souza
Are waves public or private? Will they be indexed by search engines and viewable by anyone?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Adam - thank you for that explanation. Can't wait 'til it's public beta (which answers your question too, Suezanne?)
- Mona Nomura
With the federated architecture, I can imagine different entities building sites with a social networking layer and familiar UI on top of Wave, with open interfaces between each other. Sort of pick your favorite skin. I can see the line between social networks and collaborative tools blurring.
- Christopher A Carr
The ultimate goal is a suitable hive-mind substrate. ;-)
- Christopher A Carr
Mona, Google Wave is the future of the net, and the best thing ever happened to it.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Oh, no? It was a statement you made w/out reason. So I just agreed - easier that way ;)
- Mona Nomura
a "collaborative tool" is different than a "social network". Thats like calling Basecamp a social network. The common thread is that whether it's collaborative or social, they are both built for communicating.
- Adam Helweh
from BuddyFeed
Basecamp is not a collaborative tool - it's useless LOL. Have you tried Google Sites? It rules and it's FREE.
- Mona Nomura
I'm glad someone else said it first. For a second, I thought I was just getting slow.
- Tinu Abayomi-Paul
Mona, Basecamp is not the best of tools nowadays, but it is definitely considered a place for teams to collaborate (or at minimum... communicate). Not sure how you have been using it, but I have used it for projects with clients for a couple years now.
- Adam Helweh
For conventional project management - products, specifically, it may suffice (I prefer Visio) but for projects with mass collaborators and multiple contacts involved, it's awful. I like HighRise but completely baffled as to why HighRise and Basecamp don't talk to each other. Bizarre.
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
I got on Facebook, Twitter, and FriendFeed all at the same time. The only reason I update the others is because I know it will feed here, where the people who's opinion I care about are located. I never get much from Twitter or Facebook. I'll update them because I have to for the podcast and to keep up with a few people, but not because I'm excited to share and see what people say. Sorry social networking, this was my home, and now it's scheduled for demolition.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Hey now, LG, Looney Tunes is frakking awesome. How about Disney buying Pixar? Oh, wait..... (and actually, that one hasn't worked out badly, so is there yet hope?)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
++ Jandy -> How about Dreamworks buying Studio Ghibli?
- LogEx
*smacks MVB* How DARE you besmirch tinker toys!!! Oh, and what's up with fiddling with your name, you trying to make me get MDV and MVB confused?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I need some advice... I have www.johnnyworthington.com currently redirecting to friendfeed.com/jworthington (how's THAT for fanboy). Do I now get back into making my own aggregation blog or do I pipe it all the Facebook? Is the notion of visiting individual websites now dead and it's all about mass aggregation?
I hear ya, JW! Friendfeed wrote the book on mass aggregation and then added to it by becoming the best social network on the web. There's nothing like it and I doubt there will ever be now that fb is effectively killing innovation in the category. I'm thinking some combination of posterous- and tumblr-like sites myself. With maybe some... shudder... twitter thrown in.
- Jim Hearts FF
john - make your own website. chuck it on a wordpress.com blog. then you know you can come back to something in ten years and it still be there and the rules dont change. your blog is the most important thing you own on the web. the rest is just communication..
- Terry O'Fee
The........trouble......with..tribbles.......is ........................they....................can .............................make ....................you.........talk..in this.....................laboured.............and ....................... disjointed...way.for the rest...................of.........................................your career.
- Kevin J Hatton
Invariant - I see what you mean there!
- Mark Davidson
Kevin - But look how happy Captain Kirk is! Who doesn't love tribbles? Besides Pea Pea makes tribble noises. (Caroline doesn't know that I've been calling her Pea Pea for the last two days... Shhhh.)
- Mark Davidson
Kevin, that would be no Tribble at all.
- Joe Pierce
you guys are speaking another LANGUAGE STOP IT
- Caroline
I'm not sure that it's faster. It might be that they're just populating each result one at a time instead of in a block. EDIT: No, it's faster.
- invariant - farewell FF
Speed is not something we're currently testing -- it's probably only fast because only a few people are playing with it :-).
- John μller
Neat results, and fast, despite the messy syntax <div><span></div> ;)
- Sebastian