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Mark Trapp
Developer, IT Manager, Philosopher. http://marktrapp.com — This is a spoiler zone. You've been warned.
Stay classy, Microsoft.
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According to Bing, @god's latest tweet is that Dropbox is awesome.
- Matt Mastracci
"Thou shalt tweet thine own banalities" is the 11th commandment, lost when Moses deleted his Twitter account to impress Miley Cyrus.
- Mark Trapp
Just got denied health insurance due to a pre-existing condition, so I get to apply to Oregon's public option. Feel bad for those that don't have one
...yet. It is sobering to get a letter from a faceless corporation essentially saying that I'm not a good investment to "underwrite".
- Mark Trapp
The thing I don't like about Twitter public lists is that there's no consent. Someone could add you to a "child molesters" list, for example: (p.s. blog post from this here: http://friendfeed.com/itafrom...)
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Or a public "douche bags" list, or anything. Public categorization is dangerous in the hands of an individual; at least with aggregate (or crowd-sourced) categorization, the bad apples can be marginalized or removed. But when every list gets an equal voice, or someone popular decides to put you into a shit list, one individual's voice gets to be the loudest based purely on how extreme they are with their categorization. If I'm listed in 50 "technology person" lists, and 1 "fuckwit" list, guess which one stands out?
- Mark Trapp
Which is why I think there's a very good reason why Facebook, FriendFeed, and Google made list categorization private that Twitter completely missed.
- Mark Trapp
And personally, I resent being on "technology" and variant lists. That's like signing me up for spam that I can't opt out or protect myself from.
- Mark Trapp
Look for a big increase in @-reply-spam as this rolls out more widely :(
- LogEx
Makes me wonder what lists Scoble is on then.
- CW™
people are going to complain. Lawsuits will occur demanding that Twitter remove them from a list.
- CW™
You can see anyone's list memberships on their profile (another bonehead move): http://twitter.com/Scoblei... He's on mostly technology related lists. But all it takes is one person with a vendetta to use lists as a vehicle for libel or defamation.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, I think you're right. Someone could counter-argue that tweet "equality" has the same issue, but psychologically lists have more weight and cut by implication not expression which is more difficult for a victim to tackle. I've noticed for myself it even feels like a violation when I see a screencap of someone's own Friendfeed page which shows *their* Lists - just the description/name of the list has effect.
- Micah Wittman
I somehow made it on a tech blogging list. I don't think I ever wrote anything about tech blogging. Is there a free food Twitter list. Also, Mark, is Barton's dad on this mythical child molesters list?
- James Ferguson
Barton's dad is on my child molester list. And the state registry's list. The jig is up with him!
- Mark Trapp
I'm not sure it's Twitter's responsibility to prevent users from ding things that could get them sued for libel or defamation. Have some expectation of personal responsibility people.
- Kevin Fox
If you block a user, would that remove you from their lists? But I agree, you should be able to remove yourself (like untagging from a photo on Facebook)
- Stuart Miniman
Kevin: I agree that everyone ought to have personal responsibility, but there's absolutely nothing a person could do to protect themselves from a malicious use of lists other than to close out their account: I can't consent to the categorization, I can't remove myself from the categorization, and categorization is in no way dependent on my actions on Twitter (but rather, the actions of others). The fact that there's that in addition to the lists being attached to my profile page is nuts.
- Mark Trapp
There are a few basic steps Twitter could've taken, and should still take: don't attach lists to a person's profile and allow people to opt out of lists. More extremely, make list memberships opt-in or make all lists private.
- Mark Trapp
This is the problem with Twitter - it's too anonymous. It's the risk you take when you put yourself in such a public environment. If you're okay with that, fine - it's just the risk you take.
- Jesse Stay
Mark, I answered you over on the other thread: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Alex Schleber
That's a good point, Mark. Interesting discussion.
- joey
Yes, if you block a person who started a list it removes you from all the lists that person put you on.
- michael sean wright
I've said repeatedly, in both my blog post, here, and on Robert Scoble's feed, blocking is not the answer.
- Mark Trapp
One of the bigger problems I have with sites like Facebook is that I have no control over how others see my public profile (right now you'll prob see 16+ yr old girls asking you to contact them, surrounding my profile. I'm happily married, have 4 kids. Mark has a point. It's hard to maintain a personal brand on the web, and others that can classify you (wrongly) won't help. Then again Twitter is 90% bots so I don't think many will notice
- Alexander van Elsas
Mark: I don't understand. You say you can't remove yourself from a list, but you can by blocking the offender. You say that 'blocking isn't the answer' but it seems to be exactly that.
- Kevin Fox
Alexander: I'm on a roll tonight because I don't understand you either. You have pretty fine-grained control of what in your Facebook profile or feed is viewable to the public (or any other) scope, so you have tons of control over how others see your public profile. I don't see the 16+ year old girls asking me to contact them when I look at your profile. I see this: http://fury.com/tmp... What's the offensive part?
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, refresh the page a few times. and you will see other ads as well. The offensive part is that I have NO control over the right side of that page, yet it is directly related to my profile and therefore to my personal brand. This sucks on the web in general, but it sucks more on a site that is supposed to contain my dearest connections. I'm confusing everyone here it seems. I better stop talking now ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
btw, this conversation is taking place here as well, Jesse Stay didn't get me there too: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Alexander van Elsas
Kevin: let's say my friend decides he wants to put me in a "technology" or "owned-Barbies-when-he-was-5" list; my only recourse is to block someone I'd otherwise have no problem with because Twitter doesn't give me the ability to remove something from my profile otherwise. As I'm sure you've seen with FriendFeed and Facebook, blocking someone is considered a drastic and hostile action towards a person that isn't the same thing as opting out of a feature. And why aren't public lists opt-in anyway?
- Mark Trapp
Alexander: Are you sure that the ads on the right are directly related to your profile? I think they're more directly related to the viewer's profile than the profile he's viewing, and don't knw that they're related to the profile being viewed at all. And if you're worried about the ads on the page, then this is a problem you're going to experience all over the internet.
- Kevin Fox
Mark: Your arguments would go farther if you steered clear of the absolutes a bit. If this person is your friend enough that you don't want to block them, then presumably they're friend enough for you to ask them to take you off that list. 'Only recourse is to block my friend'? Pah. Also, public lists won't work if they're opt-in. Like Gwyneth Paltrow is going to sit around approving...
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- Kevin Fox
Kevin, that'd be a good middle ground, although I'd imagine if lists were opt-in, they'd function much like how FriendFeed and Facebook groups work now or how WeFollow works: someone can't subscribe me to a group, but if I want to be associated with a group of people, I opt-in by subscribing or joining the group.
- Mark Trapp
It's a difference in viewpoint. I don't see them as groups because I don't see lists as a tool for fostering two-way communication. I see lists like Google Reader bundles. Pre-rolled subscription packs curated by a knowledgeable third-party.
- Kevin Fox
I think Twitter should add a "public list opt-out" feature. It wasn't obvious when lists first came out that people might not want to be on them, but after seeing this, it's impossible to know if people want to be on them or not. It could be a problem for those wanting to opt-out of lists because you can't necessarily DM everyone that puts you on a list (and you don't always want to block them, as Mark said).
- Matt Mastracci
You would just block them. Then you get removed from the list
- Lindsey is Fierce!
@Kevin. I am fully aware that ads are part of the eco system of the web. But in this particular context (A friend is looking for me on Facebook), I think placement of (sleezy) ads are a bad idea. It seems to reflect on my profile/brand/identity and it cannot be controlled by me. Facebook should be the place where friends connect, not the place where an old friend finds you surrounded by advertisement
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, I'm sorry the ads you get on Facebook are sleazy. I find the ads to be much better quality than those I see elsewhere on the web. Nevertheless, again with the absolutes. It's not like ads preclude Facebook from being the place where friends connect, and a right hand column hardly constitutes being 'surrounded by advertisement.'
- Kevin Fox
They probably know things about me they shouldn't ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Okay, that's funny.
- Kevin Fox
Man that's nuts, Facebook ads are among the shadiest on the respectable web. They're worse than AdSense ads, and AdSense ads are pretty bad.
- Paul Laroquod
House just passed the health care bill.
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220-215, one Republican voted for it, 39 Democrats against.
- Mark Trapp
Now you have to wonder who they told to vote against it and what they promised them to do so.
- Anika
Democrats who voted against it are from conservative districts and would likely face losing their seat by voting for it.
- Mark Trapp
I.e., they have no balls.
- Mitch
Mitch, they have no balls that can looked at by a doctor for a reasonable cost :)
- Micah Wittman
So, does this bill offer a publc option? I've tried to keep up, but it's tough to figure out what's new in the version of the day. :)
- Matt Mastracci
from iPhone
Yes, there's that, but when the vote comes up to the bare minimum usually means that deals were made. They didn't want it to look like they were rubbing the Republican's noses in it. That's how the Democrats tend to work their votes.
- Anika
Here are the facts http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues...
- Jorge Escobar
It wasn't in danger of overwhelmingly passing. Up until the Stupak amendment, it was very likely to not pass. 35 Democrats vowed not to vote for the bill because they felt it was fiscally irresponsible, there are 52 members of the Blue Dog coalition, and 68 members voted for the Stupak amendment. It's much more likely deals were made (like the Stupak amendment) to get Democrats to vote *for* it, not against.
- Mark Trapp
And here's the full list http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues...
- Jorge Escobar
I like how the Republicans keep offering motions and procedures to delay the final vote. Are they hoping people get sleepy and vote "no"?
Allowing viewers to call in on C-SPAN is just awful.
Best-selling Anglican author prepares to "desert a sinking ship" - http://blog.beliefnet.com/deacons...
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Jonathan Ive (guy behind Apple's design) interview from "Objectified" — http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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"A lot of what we seem to be doing in a product...is actually getting design out of the way. And I think when forms develop with that sort of reason, and they're not just arbitrary shapes, it feels almost inevitable; it feels undesigned. It feels almost, 'well of course it's that way! Why would it be any other way?'"
- Mark Trapp
"We end up spending a lot of time designing fixtures."
- Mark Trapp
"It's really important in a product to have a sense of the hierarchy of what's important and what's not important by removing those things that are all vying for your attention. An indicator has a value when it's indicating something. But if it's not indicating something, it shouldn't be there."
- Mark Trapp
He seems to really understand the fundamentals of making a desirable product and that's why I think Apple will be ok post-Jobs.
- Andrew Smith
When he came back, Jobs brought on a lot of smart guys like Ive that, at this point, would be more of a loss to Apple if they left than Jobs himself. Ive alone has lead the industrial design of every product since Jobs's return in 1997 with the iMac.
- Mark Trapp
Oregon Guard soldiers now part of handing over Iraq to Iraqi control - http://www.oregonlive.com/news...
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From the Oregonian: "A war that started 6 1/2 years ago in "shock and awe" is groping toward a tentative conclusion, with more than 120,000 U.S. troops in Iraq accepting an unfamiliar role as limited partners. For them, especially those who have seen earlier phases of the war, it's not so much a war as a temporary overseas job, albeit a job with lethal risks."
- Mark Trapp
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"Four years ago, some Oregon Army National Guard soldiers kicked in doors searching for the enemy and ran Iraqi neighborhoods like chieftains. Now, some of those same Oregon soldiers, deployed again, might spend this tour without even speaking to an Iraqi. As the first steps of the Obama adminstration's plan to pull U.S. combat forces out of the country next year rolls on, it's all...
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- Mark Trapp
Really interesting overview of what troops are doing now that we're no longer running the show in Iraq.
- Mark Trapp
"Objectified" - Jonathan Ive talks about Mac design & Unibody MacBook manufacture - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Best teabags ever - http://superpunch.blogspot.com/2008...
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From Super Punch: "Teabag featuring a mountain climber designed by TBWA, Istanbul, Turkey for The House Cafe, a chain of restaurants in Turkey."
- Mark Trapp
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burda daa....
- gokhan yucel
I really like how Portland has all-day downpours. New York storms are all bluster, but have no stamina.
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Just saw an Amazon Kindle TV spot. Clearly they're okay with just targeting 18-25 hipsters with large amounts of disposable income.
I can't find it online: wonder if it's brand new.
- Mark Trapp
Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011 [USB] - http://gizmodo.com/5396965...
Remember 3 Years Ago, When Heroes Was a Good Show? [Heroes Recap] - http://io9.com/5395772...
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Not watching, but am waiting for Lost.
- Amit Morson
Verizon to Double Early Termination Fee [Rumor] - http://gizmodo.com/5396828...
Whatever AT&T does, at least they don't have the audacity to trot out a $350 early termination fee. Screw Verizon.
- Mark Trapp
"The Fourth Kind" Is A Hoax [Movie Review] - http://io9.com/5397359...
"Alien abduction flick The Fourth Kind bills itself as containing "actual footage" from case histories. But this footage is so poorly faked that it insults the audience's intelligence. So why are people still calling this movie scary?"
- Mark Trapp
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"1.5", fully-embroidered, Velcro-backed. Attach to your jacket, your backpack, or the lid of your over-clocked, battle-scarred laptop. Start a nerd sash!"
- Mark Trapp
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"06: Full Stack Web Developer Requirements: Able to turn a pile of loose electrons into a fully operating and styled website"
- Mark Trapp
"01: Open Source Requirements: Make an accepted commit to any open source project."
- Mark Trapp
"05: Family Tech Support Requirements: Provide hardware, software, and telephone support for extended family computers and electronics. Voluntarily or involuntarily."
- Mark Trapp
XX: Nerd Meta-Badge Requirements: Own a nerd merit badge.
- Mark Trapp
Moderate quake strikes off Oregon Coast - http://www.oregonlive.com/news...
Steve Jobs' Original Name for the iMac Was So Horrifying It Would Explode Your Ears [Apple] - http://gizmodo.com/5396945...
Square Enix summons Earnings Report; Final Fantasy XIII Sales Projections evade attacks - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
I'm looking for a Memory Stick Pro Duo to SD adapter. Does such a beast exist? The reverse does, but can't find one going in this direction.
Do a search on del.icio.us and diigo. That would be the kind of thing someone might bookmark. Also try Bing product search, much better than Google for that sort of thing.
- Chris Johnston
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So far, "Chain of Command" is my favorite Star Trek: The Next Generation episode: loved the allusion to 1984. "How many lights are there?"
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Good ep. Ronny Cox and David Warner. How can you go wrong?
- Matt Mastracci
+1 to Yesterday's Enterprise. FWIW, I think "The Inner Light" is my favorite out of the whole series.
- Matt Mastracci
Both of those are really good, too. I think what I like about TNG the most is that even though you have a cast of characters that develop, the fact that they're in a situation with rules and procedures isn't lost. Most shows nowadays, including the later Star Treks, come up with some excuse to get rid of that so the main characters can do whatever they want.
- Mark Trapp
TV Ratings Thursday: ABC Edges CBS; FlashForward Keeps Sliding, Fringe Plummets - http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009...
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I've given up on FF, it needs a reset
- Dave Hodson
I like FF and Fringe. The two week hiatus for Fringe just knocked all momentum out of it. And FlashForward is interesting. It would be sad to see it go and V survive since V was so poor to start. Maybe it'll get better but ...
- AJ Kohn
I tried FlashForward for the first three episodes, and can't get into it. Have the rest on the Tivo. I don't think the time is right for another Lost-like show (whether or not that characterization is warranted), even though ABC desperately wants a replacement for it. I dropped Fringe after the pilot, but that was more about its time slot, being the weaker of three shows I was interested in when it premiered. Keep meaning to check it out on DVD, maybe after I finish watching ST: TNG.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark: Yeah, it's unfortunate that it's fallen into that 'Lost' like bucket. I think the premise is actually pretty interesting and they're doing some decent stuff with it. Acting is uneven but better than V. Fringe ... was pretty bad for the first 3-5 episodes and then began to hit its stride. This season has gotten a bit janky now and then but overall there is enough to keep me coming back.
- AJ Kohn
First footage of Netflix on PS3 - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
"Unfortunately, the early report of the service doesn't sound quite perfect. Otis says in the YouTube description that all video renders at 480p and doesn't scale properly." Blech. If you can't do it right, don't waste people's time with a half-hearted attempt.
- Mark Trapp
Green Beliefs Protected and Philosophical Beliefs Defined - http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/...
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