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Alex Scoble
Gamer, home theater enthusiast, IT Security professional with CISSP, lover of cats, engaged to the always wonderful and compassionate (and passionate) Cassie.
When Marketing people determine what security features get included in a software product, we all lose. Leave that stuff to Security professionals, please.
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I agree. Our team always argue about this issue too.
- imabonehead
Nov 20, 2009: Scott of Two Countries won last week with his guess of 10,400. DJIA closed up for the week at 10,318.16. Last week's guesses: http://friendfeed.com/dow-gue... Please leave your guesses for next week as comments on this thread and thanks for playing! Week 41 starts here!
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Please get your guesses in before open of market on Monday.
- Alex Scoble
10480
- Alex Scoble
10318.16
- Davis Freeberg
10234
- CW™
10,375
- Scott of Two Countries
10125
- Chris Greene
10319
- John D Reasor
10179
- Jimminy
9987
- Geoff Schultz
10,400
- April Russo (app103)
9999
- imabonehead
The Associated Press: Costco nixes Coke products over pricing dispute - http://www.google.com/hostedn...
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Wow...This is probably bad news for both companies...Wonder who this hurts more though? Costco or Coca-Cola?
- Alex Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Now there's no reason to go to Costco. Oh wait, yes there is.
- Dave Roth
Bad move for Costco. The big dog in sales is Wal-Mart. Costco doesn't even compare to them. Coca-Cola can easily afford to basically tell Costco to shove it.
- Otto
WMT + 1.11% Intraday today.
- Chris Greene
If coke isn't there I won't even notice. Good for Costco.
- Todd Hoff
I agree with Otto...Coca-Cola would like to sell at Costco, but Coke will find other places to sell beverages. Retailers do better with both Coke & Pepsi.
- Pam Negoro
Otto, how do Coke sales specifically compare at Wal-Mart vs Costco? The one advantage that sellers get from selling through Costco is that the sales are high quantity. If you're in a situation where volume is more important than profit margin (and I'm sure that Wal-Mart doesn't allow its suppliers to have huge profit margins), then Costco is essential.
- John E. Bredehoft
John: I have no data. But Costco has always been a bigger ticket item type place, mainly for rich white people. Found one article on Google that says average Costco shopper makes $74k a year. It occurs to me that they might be harder hit by a brand name loss like this. Coca-Cola is not just Coke vs. Pepsi, consider all of Coca-Cola's product line. I may not care about Coke, but if my store didn't have Dr. Pepper for example, I'd definitely shop elsewhere. What's your deal-breaking beverage?
- Otto
I would say that this is bad news for Coke (http://www.google.com/finance... ) since they are having problems with losses right now...another several percent off their top line definitely won't help them, whereas Costco will be protecting their bottom line with this move.
- Alex Scoble
Sounds like good news for Pepsi.
- April Russo (app103)
"No Coke, Pepsi, Cheese Burger, Cheese Burger, Cheese Burger"
- Jeff P. Henderson
omg!!!! crazy!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
It's funny, I joined friendfeed just to connect further with my brother...I got that for a time, but in a larger sense I connected with a community and discovered so many interesting people and so many noteworthy stories. Despite what I've written before, to Paul Bucheit and the rest of the friendfeed team, I will forever be grateful for the...
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service that made this possible.
- Alex Scoble
cheers, again.
- Bren, Photophobe
Cheers to you too, Bren...twice!
- Alex Scoble
I'm tyring to like , like , like many times....lol...Alex...wuvs ya
- Bill Heslin
LOL, you guys are the best.
- Alex Scoble
Amen, Alex. I have come to know more people through FF than I ever could have imagined. It may not be as geeky as it was when I first joined, but the community has grown & improved. Kudos to all of you (devs & users) for giving me that. :)
- JA Castillo
Beautifully said, Alex! :)
- directeur
Well said but ... don't cue the fat lady yet!
- AJ Kohn
AJ, I think you have me confused with another Scoble. :) I'm not calling anything over here. :) Just giving thanks.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, are you on google wave? I have one more...
- Anthony Farrior
oh, scratch that, i have 10 invites left...
- Anthony Farrior
That's nice, Alex.
- Anne Bouey
You are my favorite Scoble by far! (Sorry, Robert) ;)
- Jorge Escobar
Hmmm.. sounds like the speech that is said before the music is queued up and the lovely ladies come from stage right to escort you off. But Then again.. thanks are not said enough in life so say it often. ;)
- CW™
Yes and yes to everything.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
from iPhone
Long live Friendfeed!!! But even better,long live the relationships....
- Steve
werd!
- imabonehead
Love you! even don't know you! love cool people!
- Farhad Jafari
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Well said, Alex.
- Martha
Couldn't agree more .. FF still rocks
- Charlie Anzman
FF is the Jewel in the Center of the Internet
- Robert Higgins
thankyou mr a scoble for putting into words what i've felt too (except for your brother part, ;)
- chaz2b
In case I haven't posted this before, please don't refer to Jose Cuervo Gold as a Tequila. It's a mixto and as such is an abomination of the drinking world and should never be referred to as a Tequila. #IfItsNot100PercentAgaveItsNotTequila
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*bitchslaps Alex in the mouth*
- Johnny Worthington
*cockkick's Johnny in the nutz*
- Alex Scoble
is Patron Silver tequila? I don't pay enough attention to what's what in tequila. :D
- holly
Seriously biatch... I'll block you for this :P
- Johnny Worthington
I'm pretty sure that all of Patron's Tequilas are 100% agave.
- Alex Scoble
If you drink crap and expect me to call it Tequila? Dude, block away, brother. Doesn't change the fact that you need to raise your standards a bit. Step up to Hornitos at least!
- Alex Scoble
woot!
- holly
How much does it contain?
- Johnny Worthington
*wondering how Alex, who lives for arguing, is going to survive marriage*
- Spidra Webster
http://www.bevmo.com/Shop... Not sure what you are asking, Johnny
- Alex Scoble
friendfeed, Spidra...the answer is friendfeed
- Alex Scoble
How much Agave does Jose Cuervo Gold contain? I know it's above what is allowed by law but can't find the right amount... either way, it still gets me ripped off my tits...
- Johnny Worthington
It's a mixto, they don't have to say. If you are asking about alcohol % by volume, they are all about 40 percent.
- Alex Scoble
100% puro de agave, please. Patron Silver is great. Really, there are so many good tequilas out there these days, hard to go wrong (unless you drink crap).
- Bren, Photophobe
Yeah, Bren. And Johnny, I implore you to step it up a notch and try a 100% agave Tequila...Step away from the mixtos, dude and enjoy the high life.
- Alex Scoble
It's threads like this that make me wonder which of the Scoble brothers was adopted. (If Robert posted stuff like this I think I'd like him more)
- April Russo (app103)
ROFL...If you ever got us in one room, you wouldn't even wonder...We obviously all are cut from the same cloth.
- Alex Scoble
Hard to tell when comparing feeds though.
- April Russo (app103)
Yeah, funny how that works, hehe.
- Alex Scoble
Don Julio Blanco (100% agave tequila) + agave nectar + lime juice makes me happy.
- Cristo
++Cristo
- Derrick
Apparently you need to drink more of that then, Chris! ;) Just sayin'!
- Alex Scoble
*virtual punch in the face* for Alex's "Just sayin'". :)
- Cristo
See what happens when you don't drink enough Tequila?
- Alex Scoble
I am *so* having tequila when I get home.
- holly
So I'm guessing that bottle of pre-mixed Cuervo margarita I got in the refrigerator isn't going to cut it?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
ROFL, Jandy
- Alex Scoble
Liquor Snob! Don't go dissing peoples choice on getting wasted in their own cheap ass way. Unless you are going to ship down bottles of the good stuff to us then hush.
- CW™
You can drink whatever cheap stuff you want, just don't call it a Tequila when it isn't
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And yes, this is right up there with people referring to sparkling wines as Champagne...Sorry, but if it didn't come from the Champagne region of France and wasn't made with the Champagne method, it's a sparkling wine...GET OFF MY LAWN!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Tequila makes me instantly sick, so it doesn't matter to me anyway
- LANjackal
And Sunny Delight is NOT orange juice.
- April Russo (app103)
April: AGREED.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
So then what would you call Cuervo Gold + Sunny Delight?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
floor cleaner
- Bren, Photophobe
check that... toilet bowl cleaner
- Bren, Photophobe
ROFL Bren...I don't think it would be good for even that, unless you like sticky floors.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
There is a name for it if it's served in a dirty glass, but since you don't know my real life friends it wouldn't make much sense to you. (I have a freiend that you don't drink at her house unless it's straight from the bottle and you were the one that opened it)
- April Russo (app103)
I thought of that right after I posted it... hence my amendment
- Bren, Photophobe
I do like a nice sticky floor, though
- Bren, Photophobe
Johnny, what gets you ripped isn't the tequila in Cuervo Gold, it's the grain alcohol they add to it.
- Kevin Pedraja
Sheesh, screw Jose and Patron; you should be drinking http://www.tequilas.info/pics... anyway. ;)
- rowlikeagirl
The best I've had: Porfidio - But it's gonna cost you. http://www.tequilaporfidio.com/ "No es tequlia, es Porfidio!"
- Christopher Harley
My personal favorite. http://www.tequila.net/tequila...
- Eric Logan
Nov 13, 2009: MVB (Curmudgeon of FF) won last week with his guess of 10300. DJIA closed up for the week at 10,270.47. Last week's guesses: http://friendfeed.com/dow-gue... Please leave your guesses for next week as comments on this thread and thanks for playing! Week 40 starts here!
Please get your guesses in before open of market on Monday.
- Alex Scoble
10,659
- CW™
10480 is my guess
- Alex Scoble
10000
- Davis Freeberg
10515
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
10500
- Maxamad
10,400
- Scott of Two Countries
9999
- imabonehead
10200
- Jimminy
Looks like Scott won this week
- Davis Freeberg
He did indeed.
- Alex Scoble
Heh, my friend Travis just posted "Wondering why so many folks file their music "Firstname Lastname" instead of "Lastname, Firstname."" on Twitter (friendfeed is being slow to bring it here and I'm tired of waiting for it). I post everything by band name, so The Prodigy stays The Prodigy, Depeche Mode is Depeche Mode, Dave Matthews is Dave Matthews
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etc. http://twitter.com/tillig... Putting commas in file names (my file names always match my artist names) just doesn't make sense to me. Travis and I will have to agree to disagree about this one, hehe.
- Alex Scoble
Thanks for the play-by-play. Keep us posted on the happenings over there at Twitter.
- Cristo
Ben Folds is a band name just as The Bangles is or Steely Dan...I make no differentiation between these.
- Alex Scoble
Floyd, Pink
- Ken Sheppardson
I file solo artists by 'last name_first name'. I do not use "The" so, if I listened to The Eagles, it would be under Eagles_The.
- Anika
Oh, sorry, It's just Eagles, switched band name to The Bangles to make sense. The band Eagles are always to be referred to as Eagles and never The Eagles
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Stones, Rolling
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
How would he file Pop Will Eat Itself?
- Anika
Pop Will Eat Itself
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Doors, The
- Rodfather
LOL Rod
- CW™
Skynyrd, Lynyrd
- Ken Sheppardson
I file by band name too, treating the name of a solo artist in a similar fashion (first, last), dropping "A", "An", and "The". And albums are filed in folders named like this: (year) Album Name. The individual tracks are named like this: Artist - Album - Track # - Title.
- April Russo (app103)
.LOLz!
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It tickles me pink that the man who once said "Me give my heart to a woman?, Not for nothin', never happen', I'll be forever mackin'," married Beyonce.
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You assume now that he's married he'll stop. O_o
- pea
I assume nothing...In "Big Pimpin'" he wrote that he would never marry...the fact that he married Beyonce makes laugh, a lot, every time I listen to that song.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I was merely going by what you posted, not the entire song. On top of which I'm being a cynical witch and not being very nice just to make a joke.
- pea
and these are the days of our lives *cues music*
- Rodfather
I have no idea what this thread is about.
- Jeremy
Who else out there dislikes the use of "preso" as an abbreviation for "presentation"?
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I hate it. Similarly, I hate "pressie" for "present".
- Rochelle
Yeah, but you are not liberal...pffttt ;)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
ew. that happens?? ick.
- pea
Haven't heard it before, but yuck, don't like it.
- Cassandra
Never heard that before. People around here usually just call it a "Powerpoint" ;)
- Jan Ole Peek
Yeah, Pea...unfortunately, it does
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Me.
- Trish R
Have I told you guys lately how much I <3 you?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I think that calling a presentation a "preso" is grounds for a good old fashioned punch in the jaw. Thats gotta be in the law books somewhere.
- Joe Pierce
ugh. preso. that's right up there with friggin' "webinar"
- holly
Never heard of it before, but it ranks up there on the lame meter with 'frisco' as an abbreviation for San Francisco.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I've never cared for using Prego as an abbreviation for spaghetti sauce
- Davis Freeberg
Ouch, Jeff
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I've never heard "preso" for "presentation" only for 'press conferences' and only then when we were setting one up. We also used 'presser' and the younger *girls* used 'pressie'.
- Anika
And now you have
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Looks like the first half of the George Bush version of the word.
- Paul Puri
I do ! plus i also cant stand some colleagues who are from across the pond calling it preeesentation when it really should be presentation
- viki saigal
ugh, ahh (head banging on desk)
- Kim Landwehr
Don't forget "doco" or "docco"? for "documentation". GRRRR.
- Ha3rvey (sent home)
I can understand using it on Twitter, where characters are so precious. Would hate hearing it spoken though. Nasty.
- Laura Norvig
Doco? Who the heck says that? Doc is the correct abbreviation for documentation.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I don't even know about this lingo until you mentioned it here. My opinion: dislike!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I'm with Alex on 'Doc' versus doco, although I do like (and use - please don't hate me, or if you do, do it right) deets for details, as in 'send me the deets on the shindig, so I know where to go.'
- Cassandra
Sometimes when I talk to people like that, I make up abbreviations just to throw them off. i.e. DNL for "do not like"
- Ha3rvey (sent home)
Never heard it before, hope never again. Awful.
- Lo
I haven't heard it before, but I cringe just thinking about it.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
"Preso"? First time I've heard that abbreviation. When I say it out loud, it sounds really stupid.
- Jason Huebel
Never heard it before.....think I'd laugh if I did....
- Bonnie Foster
Laura is on to something.. I have mostly seen it used since Twitter and by users
- Holly Rae, FFer
I've written it, and most likely, mostly on Twitter. I don't think I actually say it though. I do think it would sound lame. God, I hope I don't say it.
- Lynne d Johnson
++++ although I also despise calling them "decks" ugh
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco, YES. I was going to mention that too. decks/slidedecks - no.
- holly
Ohh you guys would hate living in Australia :)
- Mo Kargas
Meeeeeee! Also convo for conversation. I don't mind deck for PowerPoint. I don't know that I'd understand deets for details, and i'm aware that probably I'm the only one who uses capes for capabilities.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Never heard it ... must be one of those 'west coast' things ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Here's how it goes: docu (for documentary) slide deck (for preso) cap (for capability) 'za (for pizza)
- Jim Norris
You could make a crisp hundo for making a decent preso.
- Josh Haley
I don't even like the real word pesto, let alone preso (for the record).
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
P.S. I despise "totes" also. Really? You can't spare 2 more syllables or 2 more characters to say "totally" (which, itself, is a desecration of the English language) ...?
- Laura Norvig
and lappy for laptop
- ffcode
calC for calculator
- ffcode
Truly, Alex, "preso" is an abomination unto the Lord. It may even be the abomination that brings desolation! :-)
- Ladybug Heather
An unenforceable policy or law is the same as having no policy or law in the first place.
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almost but at least it's there to use should people get their heads out of the sand. not having anything written in the first place would just require more work.
- pea
In practicality, but not necessarily in the realm of emotion & idealism. For instance, laws prohibiting atheists from running for public office (still present in some states) wouldn't hold up to a lawsuit, but they're discouraging. Partly it's what the laws represent, the societal standards that gave rise to them in the first place.
- Lo
I don't even think they're practically the same. Punishment isn't really an effective deterrent for people inclined to break laws, and contrapositively, there are plenty of people (myself included) who follow the rules simply because they are rules, and not out of any fear of punishment.
- Brad Greer
Enforcement doesn't always equate to punishment...enforcement can also include mitigation or prevention
- Alex Scoble
from IM
For instance, any law that states that a business cannot falsify their financial ledgers but does not require regular auditing by impartial auditors is a completely worthless law
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Typically these laws are used by law enforcers to get you on something later like a anvil hanging over your head when they don't have anything else to get you on.
- CW™
For all the allegedly bad things Al Capone did wrong, they only got him on taxes. And that was with them really looking.
- CW™
Did you just use "allegedly" with the same sentence as Capone?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Nothing was ever proven from what I understand, so its a correct statement. :D
- CW™
No, it's not a correct statement...It makes it sound like he did nothing wrong other than cheat on his taxes, when it's well known what he did and was responsible for. That's like saying that Hitler "allegedly" killed a lot of people...There's no allegedly about it.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It's historical fact.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
An unenforceable law is worse than no law. It breeds contempt.
- Alex Scrivener
But it goes back to your comment that all the things they should have gotten him on it was tax evasion they did get him on. Not Murder, not racketeering.
- CW™
They got him on a crime that didn't require eye witness testimony which was nigh impossible to get in his case
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Whoa. I never thought I'd see you argue that something can be true even without evidence ;)
- Victor Ganata
LOL Victor...There's plenty of evidence to support the fact that Capone was a mobster who murdered plenty of people to further his aims.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Wow what one word does to a conversation. :D Back to the topic though.. selective prosecution is up to the arresting officers and the prosecutors. They don't make the laws they are just tasked with enforcing them and they get to choose what they enforce.
- CW™
We aren't talking about selective enforcement...We are talking about laws and policies with no enforcement, whatsoever. Or we could be talking about laws and policies with technical loopholes/gaps so large as to make the intent unenforceable.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"For instance, any law that states that a business cannot falsify their financial ledgers but does not require regular auditing by impartial auditors is a completely worthless law" I still disagree. Having a law on the books still acts as a deterrent for some, even if not for all. And some of the people who commit said crime would only do so less carefully in the absence of a token law.
- Brad Greer
And most people would still behave as if the law existed because they want to do things right...so it doesn't matter for most people whether the law exists or not
- Alex Scoble
from IM
But for the rule breakers on the fringes, it absolutely matters
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Laws like that are like fences. They keep the honest people honest. Won't stop them from jumping the fence but its a block. I would say though only good laws are ones publicized. Too many laws are on the books that only lawyers (and most of the time they have to look them up) and police know.
- CW™
So true pea. No policy at my workplace can make the difference between having the cable service cut or not. If there was no rules, I assure you a lot of agents would go 'off the record' in unjustified moves.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
An unenforced policy or law usually only exists for legal harassment purposes. You don't enforce it until you want to be a jerk and can't hit someone with something else.
- April Russo (app103)
If it's unenforceable, it's unenforceable, regardless of whether you want to be a jerk or not. "Not enforced" is not the same as "unenforceable".
- Alex Scoble
from IM
But you did say "unenforced" and not "unenforceable".
- April Russo (app103)
Hmm, yes I did...Sorry, I meant unenforceable. Will change it.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
So you are thinking more along the lines like the law in Virginia that prohibits any sexual position except missionary?
- April Russo (app103)
That's an excellent example, yes.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
California had a law up until 1975 that specifically forbid wives to give their husbands a blowjob, even in the privacy of their own bedroom. Penalty was 15 years in prison for both husband and wife.
- April Russo (app103)
I'd classify that more as a Blue Law then what you originally mentioned. Blue Laws BTW are laws based on enforcing morals on the local citizens. Mostly they are religious based. And some are still enforced In Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, car dealerships continue to operate under blue-law prohibitions in which an automobile may not be purchased or traded on a Sunday
- CW™
A lot of NJ was covered by Blue Law up until about 10 years ago, where any store that sold clothing couldn't open on Sunday. But laws like that are enforced where they exist, so they really wouldn't be among the unenforced or unenforceable.
- April Russo (app103)
If it's safe for us to take in 50,000 IU of Vitamin D for short periods of time, why is 1,000 IU the most you see on store shelves? The idea of prescription vitamins is just kind of odd to me, yet they aren't uncommon. My dad was taking prescription vitamins because of his kidneys too.
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It's safe in the short term and while you're being monitored by a doctor. The FDA doesn't trust people to monitor themselves and take themselves off high doses like that in the long term.
- Rochelle
I think it's similar to how cold medicine says to only take it for 7 days. It's safer for longer, but if you're really needing cold medicine for 7+ days, you should probably be seeing a doctor. If you're needing 50,000 IU of a vitamin, you should probably be seeing a doctor for monitoring and care along with it.
- Rochelle
Also, some vitamins are considered prescription because that's how you can get some insurances to pay for them. Insurances are, in general, more willing to pay for something that is a prescription than something that is simply OTC.
- Rochelle
I'm not saying we should be able to buy 50,000 IU vitamin D pills, off the shelf, Rochelle, but we should be able to buy something more potent than 1,000 IU...Especially up here in the gray northwest.
- Alex Scoble
Just take 10 of the 1,000 IU pills! BAM, you have 10,000 IU. :)
- Rochelle
Your maths are impeccable, Rochelle!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
:D
- Rochelle
Mine is 2,000, but I order it from Lucky Vitamin. I think I've seen up to 5,000.
- Alix Whitmire
from iPhone
Heh. You only really need around 400 IU/day to prevent rickets and osteomalacia (as long as you have functioning kidneys) so 1,000 IU is already overkill.
- Victor Ganata
Well, Victor, in my case 1,000 IU is underkill. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, Vitamin D deficiency is different than taking Vitamin D for prevention of rickets and osteomalacia!
- Rochelle
The idea of vitamin supplements at all is kind of odd to me, absent some medical need. Ideally, required nutrients should come from food.
- LogEx
Ideally every house would have high speed internet and a proper home theater too...oh and everyone would have a high class education...The world isn't ideal.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yeah, if you eat a proper diet (and you don't have an underlying medical condition) you could probably do quite well without multivitamins. But otherwise healthy people really do still get rickets and osteomalacia in the U.S.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: my doctor told me that as a woman, I should be taking 1,000 IU. with Vitamin D, my doctor said that I could go to Cuba for a week and still not get the dose I need because we wear sunscreen.
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
I just took my last 50k D pill last week, I have to have it retested this week. I hope I don't get rickets. :[
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Vitamin D is fat soluable. Can be dangerous if taken in high doses for a long period of time. Those 50K winners are for short term Doctor supervised stuff only..
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
Nathalie, yeah, I actually think the 800-1,000 IU recommendation is assuming you get absolutely no vitamin D from sunlight.
- Victor Ganata
Same concept why Advil 200mg but the Rx dose is 800mg
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
Higher Doses Reduce Risk of Common Health Concerns By Chris D. Meletis, ND http://www.vrp.com/article...
- Thomas Page
Update on medical stuff (see https://friendfeed.com/itblogg... for details): Saw the naturopathic doctor today to get my test results and they definitely seem to indicate that my adrenal system isn't working properly to output the chemicals that my brain needs in order to keep me fully alert
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She sent me packing with three supplements that are supposed to help get my levels of epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine, etc. up so that I feel energetic instead of lethargic. At $96 for a one month supply, I sure hope they do the trick. Unfortunately, since I'm also taking the massive doses of Vitamin D that my regular doctor just prescribed, it will be hard to tell what did the trick.
- Alex Scoble
Supposed to take 2 weeks for the supplements to work and 4 weeks for the Vitamin D...So I guess depending on how quickly energy returns, I might have an indicator there.
- Alex Scoble
This "naturopathic doctor" is an MD?
- Brian Sullivan
No, she's an ND
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Ah snake oil salesperson then?
- Brian Sullivan
Ask me again in two weeks, Brian.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
That seems like awfully expensive snake oil.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Again, time will tell...It's only expensive if it doesn't work.
- Alex Scoble
What supplements did she prescribe you, out of curiosity?
- Victor Ganata
Victor, one called Balance D from NeuroScience that has vitamins B6, C, Folate, Calcium, Selenium, N-acetylcysteine, L-DOPA, and N-acetyltyrosine ($35 for one month). Another called Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research that has Neonatal Adrenal Complex, Superoxide Dismutase and Catalase for $17 a month. Last is EndoPlus also from NeuroScience that has L-theanine and 5-hydroxytryptophan.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
The first two I take two pills each in the morning...the last one is a spray that I take two sprays orally before going to bed.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, if you decide to continue with them, you could probably find them cheaper online.
- Rochelle
Thanks, Rochelle...know of any good sites to get such things?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Not really. I would just Google the names of each one and see which sites have good prices. The first results for the first one you listed is at http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com and they have a bottle of 60 pills for $25.
- Rochelle
Hope one or other / both get you back to full speed soon Alex. I had very good results with a homeopathic doc back in London years ago, working on a very different sort of ailment admittedly.
- Patrick Jordan
Whoa, is neonatal adrenal complex really ground-up newborn adrenal glands? Did you ever watch "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"?
- Victor Ganata
Victor, Biotics Research says it's bovine, not human!
- Rochelle
Heh, Rochelle, I did assume it was from some animal, but ingesting adrenal glands still sounds pretty gnarly. Do you get any immediate effects, Alex?
- Victor Ganata
No, Victor...as with anything when dealing with the systems involved it takes at least 2 weeks to notice any effects.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, well, yes and no. If the adrenal glands still have a lot of active hormone in them, you should actually have an effect much sooner than that. If the dosage isn't that high, then, yeah, it's going to take a while.
- Victor Ganata
Ahh, ok
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Now I'm curious to see if there's anyway I can figure out how much of each adrenal hormone is present in Cytozyme AD.
- Victor Ganata
Dude, I'm sorry to hear about this... I hope it works out for you. Keeps us posted!
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
I hope all the mess workS out for the best. Sorry to hear you're dealing with med drama, better when it's on TV rather than the live show.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
from iPhone
Oh Alex, I'm sorry...you and Cassie are in my thoughts :(
- Mona Nomura
Alex, yes, Victor's on target. It depends on what's causing the adrenals insufficiency. There could be underlying problems and if this persists you should check those out. Check my feed as I have recently posted some information about adrenal insufficiency on it. Couple of things that can help you. 1) Watch for a pressure point on the inside of your left elbow. When that gets sore, your...
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- Melanie Reed
There are two natural sources that also support adrenal:Kombu tea (a seaweed with very high mineral content) and licorice (it has supportive adrenals properties) but ask your doctor about it because it has a tendency to raise blood pressure over time. I have used both and found them helpful. I also take adrenal supplements.
- Melanie Reed
Hook, line, & sinker there, Alex. Your only excuse is that you live in California and couldn't get a basic science education. At least read Consumer Guide's famous issue on alternative medical practices. Not only is what they are doing to you pure BS, it can also be dangerous. I am in the cosmetics biz (We only test on human babies.) and those pills have no testing at all.
- Douglas Hopkins
You want to be a jackass, go do it on someone else's threads...It's really not appreciated. You don't know me, nor do you know my circumstances, so your judgements are made without any basis whatsoever and quite frankly are way off base and unwarranted.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
ZOMG Alex, you live in California now? I bet that's news...to you. ROFL I'd say ignore Douglas Hopkins. He clearly has NO idea what he's talking about.
- Anika
ROFL, Anika...Yeah.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"supposed to help get my levels of epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine, etc. up " Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
- Matthew DeVries
Cocaine also has some serious unwanted side effects. Similar to Dexedrine. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I have a friends who tried the Western Medicine route for chronic issues for several years and got no-bloody-where. Naturopathic treatment may take some time to see results (my friends had to have their treatments adjusted), but I know they've felt better than they've ever felt in their lives. I wish you good health, Alex.
- vicster
Thanks, vicster.
- Alex Scoble
This whole homeopathic vs real medicine debate always has me torn. If the placebo effect of the homeopathic stuff is actually helping someone and making a friend feel better, I don't really want to argue to debunk it, because there's a good chance that real medicine won't be able to fix them, and I went and broke them out of their self-healing mind state and didn't give them a solution...
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- Matthew DeVries
Yeah, Matthew, problem is that so far regular medicine hasn't worked and my fatigue has gotten worse of late, so what to do? Dr. Jones (still tickles me that that's her name and she specifically didn't change it after getting married because of the coolness factor) came highly recommended to me by our pre-marital counselor since I am having a lot of fatigue issues and that it definitely...
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- Alex Scoble
The main problem I have with "alternative" medicine (or any medicine for that matter) is when the prescriber of the medicine is also the dispenser/seller of the medicine. Just way too much room for snake oil in that scenario.
- Brian Sullivan
From a quick Google, it doesn't look like the medications Alex listed are homeopathic.
- Rochelle
No, actually a big chuck of them are part for parkinson's treatment, but he didn't list dosages. If they're being dosed according to the law of infinitesimals, that's homeopathy.
- Matthew DeVries
My only concern is that you get a full work up before settling on a diagnosis. Adrenal insufficiency is a very rare condition and if that's what you have, they need to make sure they've ruled out underlying causes. I do hope that something works for you.
- Victor Ganata
from iPod
If if you're comfortable that you've truely and honestly exhausted everything real medicine can do for you (or in many cases, willing to do), then you have to keep trying everything. With these fatigue diseases, just barely tiny small inroads have been made, so odds are you won't see a real medicine solution for a decade. (as an aside, you should try to get screened for the XMRV-virus,...
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- Matthew DeVries
But yeah, without dosages, the first drug Alex listed is a Parkinson's panel, the third is a food milled turkey leg. The middle one though, going on my XMRV theory, would be helpful, all hardcore anti-oxidents, which while not fighting the virus infection, would attenuate the body's response to the virus, which is actually what is making you tired.
- Matthew DeVries
Mmmm...turkey leg.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Vitamin B6, folate, N-acetylcysteine, L-DOPA, and N-acetyltyrosine are either precursors or co-factors in the catecholamine synthesis pathways that produce dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine. (Precisely what you'd want if you were in fact recovering from a cocaine binge :) The only question is how much actually gets absorbed into the bloodstream, and how much gets destroyed in the GI tract or metabolized by the liver before reaching target organs.
- Victor Ganata
L-DOPA is an anti-Parkinson agent, but it's usually coupled with an enzyme inhibitor, because otherwise it gets metabolized before it reaches target tissues. It is also the direct chemical precursor to the catecholamine neurotransmitters.
- Victor Ganata
Yeah, Bio-availability of oral supplements is pretty useless across the board, which is why people with honest B-12 deficiencies need the shots, can't just take a pill.
- Matthew DeVries
Victor, are you screening for XMRV yet? Just out of curiosity for patients with fatigue? Would you consider off-label AZT for fatigue that isn't responding to any other therapies with a positive XMRV test?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, I wouldn't say that in general. Vitamin B6 has excellent bioavailability. The reason why people with pernicious anemia need B12 shots is that they have an autoimmune disease that targets the intrinsic factor in their intestines that allow them to orally absorb B12. The question is, how much of these agents actually get absorbed?
- Victor Ganata
And people seem to respond to Iron supplements as well, but your standard Centrum Platinum? You've seen the urine 2 hours later? May as well have just poured the pills straight in the toilet and avoided the middle man.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, to my knowledge, there isn't a screening test that's available for clinical use. Empirically treating with AZT or other anti-retrovirals is not something I would be comfortable with, given the huge number of serious side effects that might actually be worse than the fatigue itself.
- Victor Ganata
Matthew, the only reason why the vitamins all end up in your urine is because most people already have ample concentrations in their blood stream. If you actually did have scurvy or pellagra, you would absorb vitamin C and niacin quite well orally.
- Victor Ganata
For those who are against homeopathy,perhaps you haven't read all the history and how this was mainly a war with the drug companies who WANT your money and who often do more harm than good, Some of what prescribed drugs do does offer some help. But in chronic cases, our medical system is woefully inadequate because its based on catastrophic care and looks to trauma. Please read what Dr....
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- Melanie Reed
Matthew, Victor is right. If you have adequate levels the body will just excrete it or it will cause some problems dependent upon the scenario. You can get tested to find out what you need.
- Melanie Reed
I know that, and that reinforces my point.
- Matthew DeVries
For instance, if you have a mag deficiency they usually put you on a mag loading test.
- Melanie Reed
Melanie -- Trained Pharmacologist --->
- Matthew DeVries
When we learned about CAM, we used the term homeopathy specifically for the belief that adding infinitesimal amounts of a chemical into solution would actually change the structure of the solution. This doesn't seem to be what Alex is getting.
- Victor Ganata
Right, and I made that a specific point, that I haven't seen the doses, thus don't know if it's homeopathic.
- Matthew DeVries
Some people absorb vitamins differently. And that is not the vitamins fault or the doctor 'prescribing them. It's an absorption problem. And I understand Matthew you are. But I would suggest to you that there is plenty of documentation that many Doctors and Pharmacologists are not currently taught across board about these things,
- Melanie Reed
Matthew, agreed. Without the dosages, there's no way to know what you're actually getting.
- Victor Ganata
I would try Cocaine as a diagnostic, just to see if it increases his energy levels, to give a basis to conclude it's a neurotrasmitter issue :) (no, I don't have IRB approval for this protocol)
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew and Victor, here is my problem with the current system: it hamstrings doctors who are good diagnosticians (RARE) from doing what doctors (the talented ones) used to do: full employment of the Hippocratic oath and spending time with their patient and doing what works. (Weil agrees with this as do many other reputable and well-known doctors)
- Melanie Reed
Full employment of the Hippocratic oath would require Victor to be a virgin and remain celibate
- Matthew DeVries
I've been put on amphetamines, Matthew and they worked to some extent, but then started to have problems with increased resistance, which required me to take more to get the same effect.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Matthew, I think you understood that I was referring to "first do no harm". Most of our modern day medicine has a tendency to do a lot of harm. I know you are well aware of the contraindication labels on most drugs with the exception of Nystatin
- Melanie Reed
But your point is well taken Melanie about dianostics and emperical investigation into each patient. Many doctors today suffer from the same thing in-home repairman have. They're not real repairmen, they're board swappers, they show up and just start changing circuit boards till your TV, Oven, Dishwasher work again, instead of figuring out which piece of that board is broken and why, and having an understanding of what is the reason it's broken.
- Matthew DeVries
+++Matthew! yes!
- Melanie Reed
Melanie, are you saying that Matthew knows about contraindication labels on drugs except Nystatin? Why wouldn't he know about Nystatin?
- Rochelle
Rochelle, I was assuming he did know about Nystatin in my comment. :)
- Melanie Reed
OH SHIT! Late for a meeting! I blame all of you!
- Matthew DeVries
"I know you are well aware of the contraindication labels on most drugs with the exception of Nystatin" <-- How does this say he DOES know about Nystatin?
- Rochelle
My apologies, Rochelle, I should have made it a parenthetical. Thanks for catching that!
- Melanie Reed
Wait, so who is prescribing me cocaine?
- Andrizzle Gizzle
+++ Matthew. It's frustrating. I have been severely ill several times, still no clue why.
- Lo
It's the time-critical nature of human life. If medicine were a completely rigorous science, we'd always know the diagnosis before formulating a treatment. Of course, there's a chance you'd be dead by then, too.
- Victor Ganata
Also, the human body isn't like an appliance or computer, where you can just replace a part or wipe your hard drive and reinstall, and everything will be good as new. Anyone looking for a quick and easy fix for their long-standing chronic disease is always going to be sorely disappointed. I actually think that kind of attitude is a huge reason why our health care system is as jacked up as it is.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, I agree totally if its triage care that's needed. But a whole segment of our pop is not getting the care it needs, or in some cases being made worse (I've known too many over the years), suffering tangential problems because they can't get the proper medical care. In other cases, they are getting horribly misdiagnosed for years..and that's not just a few cases. We excel at triage and somewhat less at catastrophic care. But chronic, disability, and orphan cases are woefully inadequate.
- Melanie Reed
+++Victor, thank you for your last comment. It is much appreciated!
- Melanie Reed
Triage is always the guiding principle, though. It always will be because time is always finite. (This is why I think the objection to rationing is bogus.) Granted, allopathic medicine is terrible at treating things like chronic pain and chronic fatigue, but it's because we don't have a good idea of what exactly is going on--the causes are heterogenous and we haven't found a single...
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- Victor Ganata
VIctor, there was a wonderful segment regarding a book from the last 5 years covered by Rose. The Doctor (whose name escapes me at the moment) was talking about the problem you just explicated: it takes the ability to have a good random access thinking pattern to deal with these kinds of cases. The system, as you point out and as did he in his book, is inadequate for this. On the vital...
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- Melanie Reed
I love the geekiness of this thread. More on topic: I'm one of the biggest skeptics when it comes to CAM. Having said that, when my doctor suggested acupuncture for my chronic pain, I did it even though I didn't think it would help. It did help, though. So, the way I see it is that if it won't do any harm, people might as well try it.
- Katy S
+++Katy S That mindset change on Alt Med is what made all the difference for me.
- Melanie Reed
get well Alex ,, positive thoughs your way ,,, Im still coughing from my Pneumonia ( oct 9th ) jeez
- johnpiercy
Thank you, John! for pulling us back to the point of our concern. Yes, Alex, you, too are in my prayers for a complete recovery.(as well as all the practical advice that I shared that I gained from doctors and practitioners over the years that helped me)
- Melanie Reed
There are actually studies that show acupuncture does help, although probably not for the reasons suggested by traditional Chinese medicine. There are probably lots of things allopathic medicine can learn from CAM. There's also no good reason why CAM shouldn't be subjected to the same study testing that allopathic diagnosis and treatment are.
- Victor Ganata
For those that don't know, by the way, CAM stands for Complimentary and Alternative Medicine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and thanks for the wishes guys.
- Alex Scoble
Victor - I think I was somewhat lucky in that I have a doctor who agrees with what you just wrote and the acupuncturist I saw was fairly pragmatic about the advantages and disadvantages of both approaches to medicine.
- Katy S
Another good point about eastern/archaic approaches, even if they don't work perfectly, they may work well enough to let you lower the dose of medications you may be on, which lowers the potential toxicity and side effects of drugs. It may allow you to undergo a less invasive surgical correction. Even if it's not a cure, anything that lessens the therapeutic needs is a win.
- Matthew DeVries
Hope that gets you to rising levels, may it be Vitamin D or the 3 supplements!
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Alex, I hope you're on the mend quickly!
- Alix Whitmire
+++ Matthew. For me, this was exactly what I needed and I learned a lot...about the body, how its made and why it was doing what it was doing. After the commercial pesticide exposure, I could not tolerate even minor doses of medications. I had no choice but to seek alternative. I reacted to everything else. The biggest thing for me was a combination of therapies, timed for when they...
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- Melanie Reed
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I'm waiting to hear back from the doctor on recent test to see if I suffer from vitamin D deficiency. I'm almost always dealing with fatigue issues, but the past few weeks have been ridiculous.
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- Derrick
Here's hoping that's all it is. Also, Whole Foods makes gummy vitamins that are D and calcium. They taste like candy.
- joey
Could it be seasonal? Stress from the wedding?
- CW™
The doctor can prescribe much higher doses of D than you can get at the store...plus I have a family history of kidney issues and that's where D is metabolized. And yeah, it could be seasonal too. We'll see how the test ends up. I'm also seeing a naturopath next week.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Vit D is pretty cheap stuff so I just take it according to the guidelines at the heart scan blog recommendations at http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009.... Might want to just give it a go.
- Todd Hoff
Oh, good to know re: higher doses.
- joey
You don't like the day star?
- anna sauce
Tad had a really bad vit. D deficiency and the doc told him to just take the stuff from the store... He was taking like 10 pills a day for a while... But it helped...
- Her Lindsay-ness
Talk to your dermatologist about Narrow Band UV Light treatments, due to Crohns relaed mal absorption I'm always vit mineral electrolyte deficent but the lights have helped with metabolism of the available nutrients
- WarLord
I'd also suggest backing off white flour and sugar. I have horrible problems with fatigue (and allergies) and cutting the flour and sugar from my diet seems to alleviate that quite a bit.
- vicster
Did I miss where you heard back?
- Alix Whitmire
No, I never did, which means his test showed my Vitamin D as being within normal range. Waiting for my 2nd visit to the naturopathic doctor to see how the labs she gave me turned out.
- Alex Scoble
Gah. I was hoping for you that it was "just" that, since that has such an easy remedy. :/
- Alix Whitmire
Yeah, I started taking 1000 IU Vitamin D pills from Trader Joe's anyhow.
- Alex Scoble
I have heard of a number of people having this lately. One person I know felt tremendously better after taking supplements. Interesting.
- Amy℠
Latest update: Went to my doctor's office to get copies of my latest test results...Come to find out that my Vitamin D levels are indeed low and that he's prescribing Vitamin D (one 50,000 IU pill per week for 6 weeks! 50,000 IU!)...Kind of annoyed that he sat on the results for two weeks, but oh well.
- Alex Scoble
thats why you have to keep calling them...........and spend some time in the sun that will help
- VAL D.
Something like 75% of people in the PNW have low Vitamin D so I'm totally not surprised! Glad you got a prescription to fix it up.
- Rochelle
Yeah, Val, but my doctor's office is usually pretty good about getting results back to me. I figured that if they hadn't gotten back to me in a timely manner that my tests were normal...Now I know not to be so trusting next time. :) Yeah, Rochelle, my levels are seriously low. Minimum normal level is 30 whatevers on the test and I'm at like 18.
- Alex Scoble
Everything else OK, though? Kidneys, thyroid, blood counts, etc.? Hope you feel better soon!
- Victor Ganata
Victor, kidney issues run in the family, which is probably a factor in my low Vitamin D numbers, but my kidneys are still functioning at what most health care professionals would consider "normal" levels
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex, Have you been checked for adrenal fatigue?
- Melanie Reed
That's pretty much what the naturopath did
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Eating dinner at 5:20 because of dance class...where's my AARP card? #TooDamnYoungToBeThisDamnOld
Early Bird Special at King's Table
- Christopher Harley
Sorry Costco, but your maple cookies just aren't anywhere as good as Trader Joe's...Unfortunately, now I have to eat the rest of the box, whether I like them or not.
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No, you really don't. Bring them to work or somewhere where a large group of people will be gathering.
- Sarah June
No, no...I really do...NOM NOM NOM.
- Alex Scoble
:D
- Bren, Photophobe
Guess they weren't THAT bad then. :-P
- Sarah June
Hehe, no...just not as good as the ones from Trader Joe's which are quite sublime.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It's like the difference between an Oreo and Creme Brulee...An Oreo is pretty good, but Creme Brulee has all that vanilla-y goodness.
- Alex Scoble
Creme Brulee. *drool* Now I've got a craving for cheesecake.
- Sarah June
I think that Akiva is on to something with some of his recent posts...argue about what doesn't matter...discuss the things that do.
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OK to argue Cars vs Up vs WALL-E...better to discuss health care.
- Alex Scoble
When planning your wedding timeline, do you think it makes sense to do the first dance before dinner? I don't think this makes sense at all...all the dancing should be done in a single block. Once I start dancing, that's what I want to do. I don't think it makes sense at all to do one dance and then eat and then start dancing again.
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That makes no sense to me. All the weddings I have ever been to, it has been show up at the reception, have dinner and then dance your hiney off. (taking a break for cake of course)
- aden (and junk)
do what you and Mrs want its your day
- VAL D.
Unfortunately, me and the soon to be Mrs. Scoble have divergent opinions on this matter.
- Alex Scoble
just make sure you do the 'money dance'. it's worth it. trust me.
- Morgan Haley
We will not be doing the money dance...I find it to be a bit too, hmm, what's a good way to put it?
- Alex Scoble
hot
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
may this be your only problem Alex
- VAL D.
Dancing should come after dinner. If you do it before, you're making everyone else wait to eat, and they're likely hungry by now. My vote is to cut straight to the food.
- Ciaoenrico
Best money dance I've ever seen was 2 decades ago, at a Mexican wedding. As the men kept drinking, they kept trying to outdo each other. They started out with one dollar bills and got as high up as 100s. I told my mother then and there I wanted to have a wedding just like that. :D heh.
- pea
Leibee Scoble Wedding: It's interesting that http://leibee-scoblewedding.com doesn't show up when you search for "Scoble wedding" or "Leibee wedding" or "leibee scoble wedding"
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Wow, 25 days! That's so exciting!
- joey
Indeed!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Awww...Milan's going to be the ring-bearer - cute!
- Jesse Stay
But seriously...Searching for leibee scoble wedding should get you there as well and it doesn't...hopefully Google will see this thread and index accordingly
- Alex Scoble
At least this post now shows up first when you search for "Leibee Scoble wedding" on Google.
- Alex Scoble
As of yesterday, my PCs have done more than a year's worth of computing for the World Community Grid http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index...
You have to be completely off your rocker to even entertain the idea that any Monty Python movie OTHER THAN the Holy Grail is their best. How you can think such a thing and yet still remain lucid and your chin drool free is beyond comprehension, for such an idea simply does not exist in the realm of reality.
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You are deeply in the great abyss when you begin to let such twisted notions in to your head.
- Alex Scoble
I love Holy Grail, but Life of Brian is so much better.
- Curtiss Grymala
/me gives Curtiss his straight jacket and shows him to his new padded "suite"
- Alex Scoble
I've always wanted one of those. Thank you.
- Curtiss Grymala
Sorry Alex, but while Holy Grail is great, it is only their second best work. Life of Brian beats it up, down, and sideways. Their third best work is the Parrot Sketch, and the fourth best is How Not To Be Seen.
- Otto
Otto - Agreed on most points, but how could you leave out Meaning of Life from your list? It was incredibly bizarre and completely nonensical, but that's part of what made it so good and so classic. "Do we have the machine that goes *bing*?"
- Curtiss Grymala
Meaning of Life did have some good bits, but it was so uneven that I don't think it holds up well in comparison to many of the original episodes. The piece at the end, where they're cleaning up after Mr. Creosote, and Palin takes you out to the countryside was the best bit in there. Although the continuing thread of the Crimson Permanent Assurance was quite good as well.
- Otto
Watching The Ugly Truth...talk to y'all in a few.
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It's funny that they mention San Jose State...I know more than a few people who went there.
- Alex Scoble
Predictable but effective in the end.
- Alex Scoble
If you had the choice between the 5 Qt KitchenAid Artisan stand mixer that has 325 watts of power (usually sold by Macys for $299) or the 5 Qt KitchenAid Pro model that is 475 watts of power (usually sold by Costco for $299) which would you choose? Does the power make that much of a difference?
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DO ANYBODY NO? WHERE'S DERRICK?
- Alex Scoble
We have the Pro but I don't really know the difference. *shrug*
- Rochelle
I would take the one with more power.
- Spidra Webster
Come now Alex, it's always the one with MOAR POWER
- Mo Kargas
Watts are really a measure of power used, but the Pro models are awfully nice.
- Ha3rvey (sent home)
As a side effect, more wattage usually means a bigger, beefier motor. Bigger electric motors usually last longer and have more torque. DO IT.
- Ha3rvey (sent home)
@Harvey Exactly ;)
- Mo Kargas
Why would you get the lower power version? Because you want to buy it on credit? Because it comes in more colors? All of their mixers use the same attachments, so that's not it.
- Alex Scoble
I think you'd usually buy the lower power version because it's often cheaper.
- Rochelle
If you can get a more powerful mixer for the same price, why even ask? Are there any other major differences between the Artisan and Pro models?
- Curtiss Grymala
MOAR POWER
- Rodfather
And you can use credit at Costco, you just have to have one of their credit cards.
- Curtiss Grymala
IIRC, that's a really good price for the 475 watt model.
- Ha3rvey (sent home)
Yeah, that's not exactly credit card openness. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It's easier to return stuff at Costco :p
- Rodfather
It's not openness, but it's available. You could always use a cash-advance check from your credit card company if you want more options. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
And yes it is, Harvey. BTW the $400 Pro model at Macy's is the 6 Qt. 575 watt version...and we aren't talking about that.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
They accept American Express. Honestly, though it's a pain in the butt, I know why they do it .Not having to pay the cc companies a cut of the transaction keeps their costs down, which keeps their prices down.
- Spidra Webster
I've never had an issue returning things to Macy's.
- Rochelle
Yeah, but Costco's return policy is legendary.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Ahh. I don't think I've ever had to return anything there.
- Rochelle
Dammit, now you're making me want one, Alex. I've wanted one for a while, but that was back when I had a job...
- Spidra Webster
I just used mine the other night. I love it, but daggone it's heavy. It's the kind of thing where you really need to have space on your counter just to leave it there (ours, regrettably, is stored under the cabinet unless we're actually using it).
- Curtiss Grymala
Alex, for many things it doesn't matter much, but for dough (especially larger quantities) it really does. The lower powered model will probably struggle a bit mixing up a double batch of chocolate chip cookies for example. If you think larger dough quantities are something you'd like to be able to handle, You might consider something like the Cuisinart 1000w model instead: http://www.cuisinartstandmixer.com/info...
- Michael R. Bernstein
Oh, and some kind of a 'splash guard' will be invaluable. Check to see if one is included/available.
- Michael R. Bernstein
I think I have the Artisan but I thought I had the same model as Rochelle so maybe not. I'm not familiar with what Pro model you're looking at that is the same size, but when we were looking at mixers (and ultimately, mine was a gift so I'm not sure what decision-making went into the choice), I wanted something a bit smaller so that I could keep it on the counter and I liked the shape...
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- joey
I have a Pro, but I've had it for 5 years so may not have the same amount of power. I LOVE it! We choose the Pro over the Artisan because we like the action of the angled lift better than the raised lift. Most people I know choose the Artisan though. Thing is though that I have never met anyone who has either the Pro or Artisan that doesn't love it!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Go for the Pro model. The extra power will make kneading large amounts of dough a lot easier. The lift bowl is also better.
- Sparky, liker of beards
LOL. GET THE PRO.
- Derrick
Pro!
- Laura B thankful
I have Baking Illustrated and they suggest just getting the 4.5 quart standing mixer if you are a home baker.
- Anna Lynn M.
I don't think that KitchenAid even makes a 4.5 quart dealy anymore.
- Alex Scoble
We have the Artisan and it works great, but I would go with more power if it's the same price.
- Shannon Jiménez
I almost killed my roommate's 375W Kitchen Aid with a particularly thick batch of cookie dough a year or so ago (I did pay to get it fixed) - the repair guy mentioned that the more powerful model wouldn't have had a problem. I'd go Pro if they're roughly the same price.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I have the Epicurean 475W which they don't make anymore. Got it through Amazon using part of my *whispers* School loan way back when. I wanted it because it lifted up and down as opposed to tilting back. I do love it though.
- Derrick
In situations like these, I call the manufacturer. I've been able to use social engineering to get an actual engineer on the line. Sure, it's typically a long call but the advice I get is usually pretty enlightening.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Not sure, but I would think that more power would be a better thing.
- Martha
More power - it makes a difference if you are mixing thick doughs, bread doughs, etc., or if you are running it for a long time. Also, make sure you get one with a large mixing bowl/container. You'll want it if you ever make a larger recipe.
- Katy S
Scotty, I need more power!
- Michael W. May
i say yes
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
YES. GET THE 475 WATT ONE!!! Trust me: I use mine for bread dough, cookie dough, and other heavy-duty mixing/kneading jobs. MOAR POWER = AWSUMMER MIXER.
- Ladybug Heather
I have the 4.5 stand mixer and it's good for most things, but last night, it didn't really handle a double-batch of peanut butter cookie dough. I'd go for more power and getting a bigger bowl. I actually need to acquire a second bowl because I'm sick of washing it in between mixing cake batter and icing. All else being equal, go for the luxury model.
- Sally Robinson
We have the same one as Derrick. It says Epicurean on it, but seriously don't remember the wattage. Josh got it for me for Valentine's Day one year. Best. Gift. Ever.
- Trish Haley
from iPhone
I'd wait till black friday - buy it at kohls - where you can get a $50 mail and 15% off the even bigger one - and Kohls cash. -- see http://www.blackfriday.info/sales...
- Matt Ellsworth
Kohl's won't have the Pro model that Costco does
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I got a good deal on ours from Amazon, btw.
- Laura B thankful
Amazon also does not have the same Pro model that Costco does...The Costco deal is really hard to beat
- Alex Scoble
from IM
So it comes down to nylon coated tools that are dish washable vs bare metal tools that aren't...less power vs more...tilt lift vs vertical lift...and pour shield vs no pour shield
- Alex Scoble
Now it's no contest...price if you go to Costco is $280 and we have a $50 off coupon which makes it $230. GAME OVER!
- Alex Scoble
I believe tim "The Toolman" taylor (was it taylor?) had a saying about this
- Richard Lawler
Why can't blu-ray allow me to skip past all the previews and junk without having to skip through each preview?
We have a marquee at our wedding that we can say something short....assuming the bottom says Cassie + Alex 12/12/09...what should the top say? http://leibee-scoblewedding.com
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"We congregate to watch the Marriage of" Too Long?
- Jimminy
LOL @Todd Hoff. "Congratulations" would probably do just fine.
- Jim Hearts FF
<marquee>Cassie + Alex 12/12/2009</marquee>
- Curtiss Grymala
It should say "Holiday Congratulating," like a wonderful item I once spotted at a Walmart.
- Laura B thankful
lol @ Todd.............priceless
- VAL D.
GET RICH FAST http://alexandcassie.com
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
"Achievement Unlocked:"
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
"YOU'RE MINE NOW!"
- Mo Kargas
+100 Johnny
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
FFUNDERCATS HOOOOO!!!!!!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I like Johnny's suggestion...doesn't pass the Cassie test, however. :(
- Alex Scoble
from IM
My idea is "OUR ADVENTURE BEGINS"
- Alex Scoble
"End Of Side 1, Please Turn Over The Cassette"
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Hmm, needs more...geekiness
- Mo Kargas
Needs less, Mo.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"Marriage... The Final Frontier"
- Her Lindsay-ness
"All ABOARD!"
- Her Lindsay-ness
Chick-a-bow-wow
- Chris Greene
"We just saved a ton of money on car insurance by switching to Geico"
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
Chico's Bail Bonds
- Christopher Harley
01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110100 00101110 00101110 00101110
- Mathew™ one of a kind
"Abandon all hope, Ye Who Enter Here."
- Her Lindsay-ness
*corn module engaged* "Together Forever"
- Mo Kargas
"Long live and prosper"
- Jesse Stay
"Alex + Cassie 4eva" written in the shape of a heart
- sofarsoShawn
"This Ceremony Proudly Sponsored by Monster Cable"
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
"<3"
- Jesse Stay
"No Spitting"
- Her Lindsay-ness
Congratulations
- sofarsoShawn
"To Our Glorious Future"
- Mo Kargas
"To Infinity, AND BEYOND!"
- Her Lindsay-ness
"She blinded me with science."
- Internet's Tad
DO ANYBODY NO
- Akiva Moskovitz
"Ooh, eeee, ooh, ahh-ahh, ting, tang, walla-walla bing-bang"
- Her Lindsay-ness
EXTREME TREPINATION
- Internet's Tad
Akiva WINS!
- Her Lindsay-ness
"Your message here"
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
1UP Akiva
- Derrick
Batteries Not Included
- Internet's Tad
"All ye who enter herein abandon all hope"
- sofarsoShawn
"Maywage, bwessed maywage. Maywage is what bwings us togevvuh today. Wove, Twue wove..."
- Christopher Harley
LOL, Akiva..."DO ANYBODY NO Y THESE 2 R GETTING MARRIED?"
- Alex Scoble
:P sofarsoShawn. I did that one ;)
- Her Lindsay-ness
WHOooops, long thread, missed it..great minds think a like :D
- sofarsoShawn
"MARRIED IN" *digital clock counting down to the moment*
- Mo Kargas
"Silica gel: do not eat"
- Her Lindsay-ness
Followed by Tractor Pulling
- Internet's Tad
OPEN BAR
- Internet's Tad
"CAUTION: WET FLOOR"
- Her Lindsay-ness
"You are probably being live-streamed by my brother"
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Proceed with Caution
- Internet's Tad
"CAUTION: SLOW CHILDREN AT PLAY"
- Her Lindsay-ness
"DING! Leveled up!"
- Her Lindsay-ness
<And Two Stealthed Rogues>
- Internet's Tad
"Two souls and one thought, two hearts and one pulse. "
- Mo Kargas
"Now, let's get DRUuuunKKKK"
- sofarsoShawn
HELP! I'M STUCK IN THIS MARQUE!!
- Internet's Tad
"Love is the dawn of marriage, and marriage is the sunset of love"
- Mo Kargas
Live Laugh Love ~ all caps
- sofarsoShawn
Umm, yeah...it's a marquee...of course it will be all caps
- Alex Scoble
"Pew Pew Pew"
- sofarsoShawn
"Veni, vidi, vici"
- Mo Kargas
"@myformergirlfriends... SUCK IT!"
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
"Follow me on Twitter"
- sofarsoShawn
Comment || Like || Hide ?
- Karoli
"BELIEVE IT, OR NOT!"
- Her Lindsay-ness
Haha Karoli, that is the best.
- joey
"bodog.com"
- SAM
BLAMEDREWSCANCER
- Alex Scoble
"To be continued...in bed" (like a fortune cookie
- sofarsoShawn
VINI, VIDI, VICI
- Internet's Tad
TOO SLOW TADZILLA
- Mo Kargas
Livin' The Dream
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I started a new thread in the Inappropriate Discussions room for the really good ones.
- Internet's Tad
Party On!
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
SQUEEEEEEEEE
- Rodfather
I'm a PC
- sofarsoShawn
"Brooks was here"
- Joe Pierce
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Haha Joe
- Rodfather
My Wife Now (a la League of Gentlemen: http://www.youtube.com/watch...)
- WorldofHiglet
how about "DOMO!!!11!!!!!1!!!!"
- Joe Pierce
A VERY SPECIAL WEDDING EPISODE
- Steven Perez
MAWWAGE ...IS WHAT BWINGS US TOGEVA TODAY ... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Bren, Photophobe
Hehe -Princess Bride + Peter Cook = WIN!
- WorldofHiglet
Now now, Cassie could never be a bridezilla :)
- Alex Scoble
Hey...say what now? I WANT MY WEDDING TO BE PERFECT AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
How about "DO ANYBODY NO WHERE DA CAKE IS AT."
- Danny Minick
Oh...how about THE CAKE IS NOT A LIE
- Alex Scoble
from IM
or "Yo Scobles... I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the best weddings of all time!"
- Danny Minick
Whoa. Your wedding day is the same as my parents. I'm kinda freaked out now.
- Kevin Pedraja
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
You better eat your brocolli, Kevin!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"T41s W3dd1ng 1s 1337 n 1t pwn5 y0ur5."
- Danny Minick
"THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAA"
- sofarsoShawn
Don't you wish your wedding was hot like this?
- Jeremy
"Dropping Love Since"
- CW™
"DO ANYONE NO WHY WE DIDN'T DO THIS SOONER?"
- CW™
"All your wedding days belong to us"
- CW™
"Too Love and Beyond... "
- CW™
"A fatal exception OE has occurred at..."
- Jeremy
"Windows needs your permission to continue."
- Danny Minick
"TURN LEFT"
- Steven Perez
"BAD WOLF"
- Steven Perez
"EXTERMINATE"
- Steven Perez
Sponsored by FUBU!
- Carlos Ayala
"PLAY THEM OUT, KEYBOARD CAT"
- Sarah's Got Talent
BROUGHT TO YOU BY BOSE.
- Steven Perez
LCD Vs PLASMA: THE ULTIMATE FACE/OFF!
- WorldofHiglet
This wedding is brought to you by the letter "S".
- Kevin Pedraja
Solve this equation:
- Cristo
YOU CAN DIVIDE BY ZERO
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Cassie > Alex 12/13/09
- Otto
WELCOME TO THE HOTEL CALIFORNIA.
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Who has four thumbs and just got married? These guys... "
- CW™
In case you missed it on the other thread it will read "Sound of Music meets Army of Darkness, Cassie and Alex 12/12/2009"
- Alex Scoble
"CISSP, BITCHES!"
- Josh Haley
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
"Hasta la vista, baby." ?
- John Wang
You should make it play tweets about the wedding with a hashtag
- Geoff Schultz
Holy crap! Just about all my online friends on Xbox are playing Modern Warfare 2...Not happiness.
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I don't even own it - COD or Halo for me
- Jesse Stay
...you were ditched for a new shiny :(
- WorldofHiglet
you don't have it?
- Richard Lawler
I'm going to treat Modern Warfare the same way I will treat Avatar ----- PASS
- Chris Greene
Hell to the naw, I don't have it...Just not all that interested...Right now I'm playing Dragon Age: Origins Collectors Edition. Next combat game I get will be Battlefield: Bad Company 2 most likely.
- Alex Scoble
Some many great games -- so few unmodded Xbox's to dare play online with.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
"hell to the naw"???? Dude. You aren't Whitney Houston.
- Chris Greene
Cool...I think we just figured out the (step)mother/son dance for the wedding http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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What about the Carol King version?
- Joe
Learning is not for the young or the old...it's for the alive
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You learn in order to evolve. To evolve, you need to adapt.
- imabonehead
I've got nothing against Taylor Swift...she's cute, endearing and popular, but do people really think that giving her Country Music's highest honors at the age of 19 will help her career? Give the woman something to work towards, for Pete's sake.
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Harold just declared the death of country over this. I'm trying to console him, but yes, they have majorly boo-booed.
- Kamilah Gill
Yeah, it's not the death of country, but it's not very profound of them either.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Pfffffffffffffft... The death of country is laughable. Remember the drama over Garth Brooks being to mainstream/commercial?
- Johnny Worthington
Brooks sounds brilliant next to this Swift pap.
- Kamilah Gill
I'm more concerned as to how a guy who's been in the music business for almost 20 years ends up getting the "best new artist" award.
- Curtiss Grymala
Kanye is the only (completely backwards) reason that they paid any special attention to her, IMO. As for Hootie, he's only new in country.
- Kamilah Gill
The CMAs are voted on by business members of the Country Music Association. It has little to do with talent or performance. BTW, she won music awards before the Kanye thing.
- Johnny Worthington
Other awards? I don't keep up with this very much, country or otherwise. The business part might explain things, then.
- Kamilah Gill
gah whatever the eff for?? I hereby declare the death of big label music in general. Oh, wait, that's already pretty dead I guess.
- Kamilah Gill
How very Scoble :P
- Johnny Worthington
:P but you know it's true though!
- Kamilah Gill
Have you heard her first album?
- Johnny Worthington
Not completely sure... I've heard several songs of hers. Completely not exciting. What, are you saying I must digest a whole album to have an opinion here? :O Or uh... What are you saying?
- Kamilah Gill
What I'm saying is she writes her own music, plays an instrument, made two albums and has won awards for both. This isn't just a airhead pop princess with a country twang.
- Johnny Worthington
LOL Johnny, have you heard her material?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Yes.
- Johnny Worthington
Okay, I can give her some credit for those things. She's not as much of an airhead as I thought she was. Her music still bores me, though. She's like Alicia Keys or Nora Jones to me. People go nuts over them, too, and they bore me stiff or just annoy me. (oops wrong Nora a moment ago. trying to switch tracks here. Don't like Nora Roberts, either.)
- Kamilah Gill
Not saying she is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but in the same way shouldn't just be cast aside. I put this in the same category as John Mayer winning over James Taylor.
- Johnny Worthington
Except that John Mayer can sing
- Alex Scoble
from IM
John Mayer can sing? Well, (in my opinion, mind you), if you call slurring like a drunk sailor while fellating a donkey singing, then ok. That's the point. Music is subjective.
- Johnny Worthington
Music is subjective? Perhaps, whether you like a genre or song or singer is objective, but it's quite easy to measure Taylor Swift's ability to be the BEST singer country music has to offer. She can't properly hold all her notes in tune. Her notes are often flat and lacking in vibrato. When contrasted against someone who's much further along the path of singing skills like Carrie...
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- Alex Scoble
By that logic, Alex, we probably have to go back and say the industry "died" back in the mid '70s when Bob Dylan won his first award...
- Ken Sheppardson
If he won his award for Best Vocalist, I'd completely agree, Ken. :) But there's no denying that the guy is a great guitar player.
- Alex Scoble
And we're back to John Mayer again :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
So, just so I completely understand, it's wrong to give an award simply for potential? Interesting...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
ROFL, Mark...nice way to bring in Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize in to this discussion.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It didn't seem to hurt LeAnn Rimes, who was much younger than Swift when she broke in.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Again, LeAnn Rimes could sing very well when she was young...She was a lot further along with her understanding of the craft than Taylor Swift is right now.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
She sings?
- Anthony Citrano
You should use your CMA vote to address this, Alex.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Yo Alex, I'm real happy that your trashing Taylor Swift, and I'ma let you finish, but Kanye Wests rant about Taylor Swifts winning was much better.
- CW™
You mean his rant was the best ever.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
eggsactly
- CW™
Yo CW, I'm happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but Danny Minick has the best Kanye impersonation of all time! Of all time!
- Danny Minick
LOL
- CW™
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Too frickin' funny!
- Alex Scoble
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awesome! Shared: http://friendfeed.com/smluniv...
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