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Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
But the fact that the LastPass site isn't mobile-friendly nor responsive is really counting against it. #scollingleftandrighttoread 😤
Yeah, they've got an app that is a lot better... but that's not part of the free service. - Jennifer Dittrich
Yes, I'm very confused on that aspect. Install the app free*! *free for only 14 days. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Sign up for $12/year then $1/month after! Um... that's the same price. I don't get a discount for being loyal? - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Huh, I swear they were slightly different prices, but yeah. That said, I do really like the mobile app - does what it is supposed to, not fussy. - Jennifer Dittrich
So question: do I have to enter my username & password per site? - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
No, not unless you set that as a requirement for a site (which you can do) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'd also recommend setting it up to use Google Authenticator for two factor authentication - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Oh and the $12 a year is worth it. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
What's Google Authenticator? - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
What Alex said. Best $12 I spend every year. - Corinne L
Eric Logan
IPCC Insider Rejects Global-Warming Report | National Review Online - http://www.nationalreview.com/article...
IPCC Insider Rejects Global-Warming Report | National Review Online
Tol, who has been working with the IPCC since 1994, was the lead author of Chapter 10 of the report, on key economic sectors and services. He was also a contributor to Chapters 17 and 19, on the economics of adaptation to climate change and emergent risks, respectively. He took his name off of the final summary because he felt the IPCC did not properly account for human technological ingenuity and downplayed the potential benefits of global warming. “In the current SPM there are a number of statements in there that are widely cited that are just not correct,” Tol says. One prediction has it that crop yields will begin to fall dramatically, a statement “that is particularly not supported by the chapter itself,” Tol says. “What it completely forgets is technological progress and that crop yields have been going up for as long as we’ve looked at crop yields.” Beyond misleading statements on agriculture, Tol says the IPCC report cites only the maximum estimate for how much it will cost to... more... - Eric Logan from Bookmarklet
We could protect the coasts if people believed that sea levels were going to rise, but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen the way things are going. - Victor Ganata
Yep, there are so many reasons to change how we do things to fight climate change and so few reasons not to. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I was impressed with many of the energy saving technologies that are implemented in Italy. When I asked why they where implemented the answer invariably involved energy cost factors. It's a shame that alarmism and intentional cost increases are the prods that seem to be the primary plan to force change in our country that has prospered so much partially as a result of comparatively cheap energy and resources. - Eric Logan
To be honest, I think we're well past the point where curbing emissions will significantly change the trajectory of the global temperature rise. I think we're at the point where we either build preventive measures now, or we cut our losses in the near future and abandon entire cities. Either way it's gonna cost us. - Victor Ganata
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The friendfeed World Community Grid team is now in the top 1000 of all teams for total points generated. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team...
With only one member. - Not Me
Correction: Mostly one member. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Oddly enough, the person I see posting the most about this isn't the one with the most points. - John (bird whisperer)
John, that's actually surprising to me. Alex seems to always be posting about it. - Not Me
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Yep, this sums up pretty nicely why I switched from Android to iPhone http://techcrunch.com/2014...
That sums up nicely why I bought a Nexus 4 last year. All the Android without the wait. Most of the Android users that haven't updated are in that boat because their carriers won't push the updates to them, not because they've chosen to wait. - Holly's favorite Anna
Yep, Anna, that also sums it up nicely. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
T-Mobile? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yup. I might switch to AT&T for better roaming, but so far it hasn't been enough of a problem to pay the extra $40/mo. - Holly's favorite Anna
Yeah, that's a problem I have with the Google reference phones. Currently only fully supported by T-Mobile and they have the worst network of the big 4 US carriers. I'm currently on Sprint and want to switch to Verizon in December because Verizon has the best network. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
But I have several coworkers that have a Google reference phone on T-Mobile and they seem to like it. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I left Verizon for it. Miss the network coverage, but don't miss waiting 6-8 months for an OS update. - Holly's favorite Anna
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And there it is. Just got the official announcement from Amazon that the price of prime is going from $79 a year to $99 a year.
Us too. Doing it? - Todd Hoff
Keeping it. Yup. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
we're also keeping it. still worth it to us. - Big Joe Silence
I'm ending the automatic renewal. The benefits of Amazon doesn't seem all that great now that purchases are taxed in California. I could wait a bit longer than 2-day shipping. I mostly use Netflix for streaming. - Rodfather
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I really need to change my LinkedIn page to reflect that I'm primarily only interested in DevOps positions now.
So how come you're so interested in devops than security? :P - imabonehead
It's 100 times more fun and intellectually stimulating. I also think that there's more future demand for DevOps. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And really, it's pretty hard to do security without DevOps. With it, it's actually possible to ensure that systems stay in a known secure state. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
hehe, i'm just pulling your leg...using puppet via mcollective :P - imabonehead
Sorry, the cert you supplied doesn't match that on record for imabonehead. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Sorry, no class 'leg' found for node ITBlogger. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Oh and PE 3.2 is out now, ima. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Too bad that PE 3.2 has some issues. It's currently broken on our two research/development systems. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Todd Hoff
That’s why it doesn’t matter if God plays dice with the Universe | MetaFilter - http://www.metafilter.com/137160...
"A fully deterministic universe is not incompatible with free will. If the deterministic algorithm displays sensitive dependence on initial conditions (which it sure as hell seems to) then it can't be predicted because the system itself is the simplest model that can predict its own behavior. This conclusion of chaos theory is far more devastating to traditional Western religious notions than anything ever discovered by physics or geology. It basically says that not only does God not know the fate of every sparrow that will fall, the only way even God could learn a sparrow's fate is to build the universe and let it run -- and He would be as ignorant of its ultimate conclusion as we are, until it actually concludes. Indeed, unlike traditional Christian metaphysics, this actually gives god a reason to create the Universe -- something that is conspicuously lacking in the more traditional accounts" - Todd Hoff from Bookmarklet
Wow...heavy. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's similar to my take on the subject so I liked it :-) Though it's not 100 percent comforting as in unpredictability isn't necessarily the same as free will, just almost indistinguishable from free will. - Todd Hoff
I don't know why, but this made me think of "Groundhog Day". If God/the user running the universe simulation isn't bounded by time, then for all we know, they've already run a kajillion simulations and can predict the future from whatever universe happens to be running just from experience alone. So they could still be practically speaking, omniscient to some incredible precision, but they can still be surprised depending on how exactly they varied the starting variables. - Victor Ganata
Harold Ramis' God of Infinite Iterations :D - Victor Ganata
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Just from the alternative history/speculative fiction angle, I kind of wonder how many countries we would've invaded by now if either John McCain or Mitt Romney had become president.
You mean Mr. Bomb-Bomb-Bomb, Bomb-Bomb-Iran? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
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What words or phrases am I not supposed to use here? (examples: totes, amazeballs, awesomesauce, etc.)
You're grown. Do as you will! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Oh come now, Stephen, surely you have words that bother you when they are used. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
*slams Complete Oxford Dictionary on the table* ;) - Johnny from iPhone
*___________________* (translation: Johnny wins) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The whole 20 volume set? - Joe - Systems Analyst
It's a big table. - Johnny from iPhone
Moist. - Steve C
Great...how am I supposed to describe a good cake now? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Delicious? ;-) - (Curtis/Alan) Jackson from Android
But that doesn't cover it when the cake is you know, the opposite of dry. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
"This cake is not dry." - Betsy
"I'm right because it's true." - Not Me
'This cake is humid.' - Akiva
This cake is drenched in awesomesauce...oh wait...I can't say that either. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I've ignored all word bans, to great effect. - Steven Perez from Android
Oh, Steven, I'm sure I'll ignore this post in a week or so too, but I thought it would be fun. Particularly since Rodfather gave me a gentle ribbing for using "totes". I bet he has me hidden though. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If totes is good enough for great actors, it's good enough for FF. Totes good enough. Amazeballs, however, is grounds for applying California's Stand Your Ground statute in all its glory. - Walt Crawford
Victor Ganata
The flipside is that you can't just say "that's biased" and ignore the science. Most science is biased in one way or another. The authors I tend to trust are the ones that are self-aware enough to actually pinpoint how they might be biased. You actually have to look at the science.
Although "their biases lead them to unwarranted assumptions/unwarranted conclusions" may be a perfectly reasonable line of argument as to why someone's paper is utter crap…. - Victor Ganata
You can say that you can't say that, but people will and they do. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The fact that we're having this debate about a real humanitarian crisis means that some people will ignore anything so they don't have to pay more for stuff or whatever reason they have for ignoring this sort of thing. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well, you can do whatever you like, but if you're acting in bad faith, then no one has to listen to you, ever. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
That is certainly true. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
In other words, when someone ignores the science, there's no point in continuing the conversation. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I never knew that the co founder of real climate was the editor of climate topics on Wikipedia did you ? How many resignations does it take to form a consensus ? Curious minds want to know. - Eric Logan
As far as science is concerned, consensus isn't really that important. Data > opinion. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
That is correct consensus is not at all important it's often wrong, so why then is consensus such an important part of this debate? - Eric Logan
Consensus is about political action. But the days of the renegade scientist are over. All the major scientific advances in the last century or so have progressed through consensus. Most contrarians end up getting revealed as cranks and frauds. - Victor Ganata
If these guys really had something, people would assimilate it and build upon it, and consensus would readily shift. There's no conspiracy keeping these guys down. They're just not convincing. - Victor Ganata
That's a fair assessment. 130 years of good records is not a very long time frame and things can change figuring out what is Anthropogenic and what is Natural variation is complex. At least we both agree that consensus is really about policy not science. - Eric Logan
Well, I think there's a bit more data than that, but the fact is that some guys have a (meta)model, and the other guys really don't, they just have ideological objections. Ergo, guess where the research is going to go? - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
Citing a review paper is a lot like citing a Wikipedia article. The paper might be illuminating to the wholly ignorant, but it ain't definitive proof of anything.
At least most people can read a wikipedia article. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
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It's not enough for scientists to say "I disagree" with published peer reviewed studies on a subject. They actually have to do studies/experiments on their own to back that up in order to have any relevance on a subject outside of Fox News.
Seriously, giving review articles and editorials equal weight with actual observational studies and experiments is a rookie mistake. - Victor Ganata
Citing multiple review articles by the same lead author as evidence that there are lots and lots of skeptics is an example of bad faith and borders on willful deception. - Victor Ganata
That link is a direct rebuttal of the slate link. - Eric Logan
Like I've said before, real science is adversarial, not authoritative. If someone had the data to prove that CO2 emissions weren't causing global warming, it would be published, cited and re-cited, and built upon. Overturning existing paradigms is where the fame and fortune is at in science. That all the skeptics have got are arguments by authority in review papers and editorials is very telling. - Victor Ganata
How many studies do you want ? http://link.springer.com/article... - Eric Logan
Certainly more than one. And an actual study, not a review article or editorial. - Victor Ganata
And also, maybe from more recently than 1988. - Andrew C (✔)
Ok. I will as soon as I get home, but why more recently than 1988 ? Honest question based on these facts since 1988 we had a decade of .2 degrees warming followed by 17 years of a hiatus. The hiatus was denied for years now there are hundreds of peer reviewed papers trying to explain it. - Eric Logan from FFHound(roid)!
"but why more recently than 1988 ?" Because we've had a lot more data since then, not just in years but in types of data. Whether or not that piece's claims panned out or not, a more recent paper would be more convincing. - Andrew C (✔)
Sorry for the multiple posts. I can't wait to turn my iPhone back on I hate this Moto X, but that is a different debate. This is a recent commentary written by Lindzen a former lead author of chapter 7 of the AR3 it gets to the crux of some of the problems surrounding the polarization of this debate. http://www.euresisjournal.org/public... - Eric Logan
Yes, one could certainly see how Lindzen would see political pressure as the problem rather than himself. ( http://www.skepticalscience.com/lindzen... ) Also, considering the US had two oil men driving policy from 2000 to 2008, I find it very difficult to believe that "politics" drives completely and totally towards AGW science. The same two fuckers managed... more... - Andrew C (✔)
Andrew no speed reader could read that fast. He explains oil men's involvement at length in the commentary. It's an ad hominem attack that you just posted. if you don't want to address the actual article I understand. It poses hard questions and real examples of corruption of peer review. It is also well notated. - Eric Logan
The link in question on this thread claims that there are only 24 peer reviewed studies disputing AGW since 1991 that claim is patently false. On the recovery from the Little Ice Age. http://www.scirp.org/journal... - Eric Logan
Of course, I just skimmed it. Mind you, his entire claim is "politics is distorting climate science", which is definitely ad hominem. - Andrew C (✔)
But yes, my pointing out that he's a clown who actively takes pains to ignore contrary evidence to his theories is ad hominem; I just feel it's kinda relevant all the same. - Andrew C (✔)
Lead author clown. - Eric Logan
So, another review article. OK. - Victor Ganata
"Lead author clown" - yes. If he makes consistently wrong claims and refuses to accept contrary evidence and can produce no satisfactory evidence of his own for support, that's more than enough reason to think he's a clown. - Andrew C (✔)
This peer reviewed paper of his seems prescient in hindsight. Can increasing carbon dioxide cause climate change? http://www.pnas.org/content... - Eric Logan
LOL, another review paper? - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Sorry, I was addressing the ad hominem about Lindzen former lead author now clown. The vast majority of what is commonly referred to as climate science are peer reviewed papers. Show me a properly tested and validated climate model ? - Eric Logan
Synchronized Chaos: Mechanisms For Major Climate Shifts. http://www.sciencedaily.com/release... - Eric Logan
In the Lindzen paper which I linked and was published in 1997 he said this "Indirect estimates, based on response to volcanos, suggest sensitivity may be as small as 0.3–0.5°C for a doubling of CO2" Since 1997 CO2 has increased a little over 10%. While temperature has increased by .05. .05 X 10 = .5. So far he's right the modelers are the clowns. - Eric Logan
Victor Ganata
I gotta admit, this religion whose adherents have a deep, abiding faith in the idea that every human problem has some kind of technological solution is kind of disturbing.
I am kind of disappointed that WWI, WWII, and the Cold War didn't totally invalidate rationalism/positivism. - Victor Ganata
Weeeeeeelll... - Pete
I'm pretty sure that just like we can't know everything, we can't solve all of our problems either, with or without technology. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The thing is, events like that are easily dismissed as irrational aberrations. - John (bird whisperer)
We just weren't applying rationalism/positivism hard enough/correctly enough, I guess. - Victor Ganata
We might have a better shot though, once we've actually figured out how to fix stupid. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not the stupid per se that I'm actually worried about. The problem is the stupid that thinks it's very, very smart—smarter than everybody, in fact. - Victor Ganata
My 4th grade teacher loved the saying "to truly be stupid, one must first be smart." - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Changing humans is hard, changing technology is easy. - Todd Hoff
I'm concerned that the stupid that thinks it's the smartest person in the room makes up a substantial proportion of the total stupid. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Andrew C (✔)
Lindzen Illusion #7: The Anti-Galileo - http://www.skepticalscience.com/lindzen...
"So his combination of expertise and "skepticism" make Lindzen an appealing figure to "skeptics". He's even been compared to Galileo quite frequently. But there's one major difference between Galileo and Lindzen: Galileo was right." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"So Lindzen does present a mostly coherent, consistent alternative hypothesis to the anthropogenic global warming theory. There's only one problem: as discussed above, every single one of these arguments is inconsistent with the observational evidence. You may have also noticed that every single one of Lindzen's positions have underestimated or downplayed anthropogenic global warming, which suggests they may be based on contrarianism rather than scientific evidence." - Andrew C (✔)
"With this history of being wrong, the comparisons to Galileo seem wholly inappropriate. There is of course nothing wrong with being occasionally mistaken in science. The problem arises when a scientist is consistently wrong and fails to learn from the corrections advanced by other scientists or by nature, especially when we're asked to believe that he is right and virtually every other scientific expert is wrong. " - Andrew C (✔)
Yeah, good luck convincing any climate change deniers with that site. :( - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm shocked that you think they wouldn't be convinced by objective facts... - Andrew C (✔)
Except that they can most likely rightly say that a site that's devoted solely to supporting climate change is probably not objective. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Just like I would, rightly in my opinion, say the same thing about most of the sites that they use. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The site might not be "objective", but the factual claims they make (Lindzen is wrong about X, Y, and Z) either are or aren't true. - Andrew C (✔)
Steven Perez
Hey, Alex Scoble is here. Figures he'd show up when I'm busy at work.
I'm on Facebook a lot more to be sure. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Victor Ganata
If you don't know the difference between a review article and an actual experiment, you're definitely not going to convince me that you understand science.
Off topic, but at this point, isn't the onus on deniers to back up their claims with a testable theory and experimental data to back it up? Am I wrong in thinking this? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
No, they don't. There are many ways to indicate studies or their results are flawed without coming up with a new hypothesis or go through the process of testing the hypothesis. - Jenny H. from Android
But Victor's original point is valid. Lit reviews aren't in the same arena as actual studies or experiments. Totally different beasts. - Jenny H. from Android
My tiny tangent: There is sooooooo much literature out there that it is difficult to capture all of it in a lit review. You might miss critical research in an area just by omitting a particular key word in your search. Add on top of that the bias of the person(s) writing the review. They might purposefully skew their review with cherry picked studies that back up their viewpoint without... more... - Jenny H. from Android
And how would you indicate that thousands of peer reviewed studies are flawed without actually doing your own study? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I mean sure, you could say that Einstein's theory of relativity is wrong and here's why, but I don't think anyone will take you seriously without experimental data to back your claim up. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And I'm not sure that you are really saying that if I say "evolution is the only scientific theory that can explain how life evolved on Earth" that I'm then on the hook for proving that statement. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Off the top of my head, you can demonstrate that (1) their data doesn't really say what they think it says (2) their methods were badly flawed (3) their assumptions were badly flawed (4) what they were actually studying has nothing to do with what they think they were studying (bad experiment, bad sample, etc.) There are a lot of ways to point out someone's study is bad that don't... more... - Victor Ganata
OK, but we aren't talking about "a study" we are talking about a high volume of scientific studies and evidence that all support the same theory. Surely, that isn't something that can be so easily dismissed as the ways you mentioned above. Climate Change and Evolution are two examples. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The review would have to explain how or why the author(s) see them as flawed. No, you can't just write 'I don't agree with this study' and leave it at that. No one with reasonable intelligence would take them seriously unless they made some valid points about the flaws in methods, stats, overstating or misinterpreting their results, etc. - Jenny H. from Android
Also, even with as many studies as have been done on climate change, it is not a theory. Evolution is a theory because it has hundreds of years of research that support it. Climate change is a baby by comparison. I'm no denier, but you can't compare evolution and climate change side by side (or rather, you can't state that they have the same level of support or acceptance in the scientific community). - Jenny H. from Android
So what is climate change if it's not a theory? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It depends on the level of precision you're on. Technically "climate change" is a conclusion from observational data, but I think most people use it as shorthand for the hypothesis that CO2 emissions due to humans burning fossil fuels is causing the observed increase in average global temperature. - Victor Ganata
A hypothesis in the process of being tested through modeling and experimentation. So far it looks good, but the data can change based on new observations. Jenny is right, though: the sample size of available data, and volume of concurring experimental results is likely not sufficient to elevate ACM to the evolution-level of "theory" - Bren from iPhone
Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
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Oy vey...I give up. Links to scientific principia? Yeah, get back to me when you've found a credible resource.
I think that the climate science deniers are all just playing one big skin game mashed up with Calvin Ball. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yep, I've taken it as far as it can go. When people post crap as science and argue that I'm saying it's not reputable because it's not coming from one of my pro-climate change sources, there's just no way to move the conversation forward. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
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Wow, so much craziness and willful ignorance on Google+...I thought it was supposed to be where all the techies are. #climatechangetrolls
Perhaps it's a sign that google+ has gone mainstream. - imabonehead
Techie doesn't mean not insane. ;) - holly #ravingfangirl
Yeah, McAfee is proof of that. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Wait, Google+ is still a thing? - Soup in a TARDIS
Considering that the argumenting over climate change is still going, Soup, yep, it's still a thing...and it has a large number of the willfully ignorant. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
That's why I love FF. Less climate change trolls. - Eric Logan from FFHound(roid)!
I love it. People comparing sticking to facts to religion. I'm also being blamed for hating SUVs or wanting to tax people into oblivion. How can you even have a policy debate when so many people refuse to accept a theory strongly backed by evidence, peer review, data, etc.? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
All I want is one credible link to a theory that counters human made climate change with credible evidence to go with it. Is that so much to ask? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Orkut started out full of Googlers, and it soon became apparent that people one or two degrees away from Googlers could be very stupid. Also, Orkut itself had some abysmally stupid policies, so. - Andrew C (✔)
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Scoble, Alex Scoble
In the past month or so on Facebook I've seen interesting ads for a men's clothing service that would send you a like an outfit a month and I also saw one for a food service that would send you ingredients and a recipe for a meal.
Both services were significantly flawed which is a shame because otherwise they would be getting my money on a recurring basis. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The clothes service would send pants, but you'd have to get the pants altered to the right length. Great, so every month I'd have to get a random pair of pants altered to my length. How does that make sense? The food service only allows you to do 3 meals a week. At $10 per person per meal, that's $60 a week and I have no idea how good the service is, nor do we really have time to cook 3 meals a week. Why not offer an option for 1 meal a week? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Do they not test these services out on real people before going live? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I have 3-4 friends who swear by Blue Apron food service like that. I've seen the food it looks amazing. I'm sure sure what the service you saw was, though. - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
uh do they sell pants that you don' t have to get altered? I've never bought a pair that didn't need a visit to a tailor - Jeff (Team マクダジ )
Unless you are getting your pants custom made you probably do get (or should be getting) your clothes altered (or doing it yourself). Pants in particular. Unless you are unspeakably lucky, of course. - Soup in a TARDIS from FFHound!
I have no problems finding jeans or khakis that fit me sans alteration. Tamara, Blue Apron was the food service. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I can't imagine getting my pants hemmed one a month, I've done it like three times in my entire life, and not willingly. - Todd Hoff
Seriously? Gentlemen, gentlemen, alterations are important and (with very little work) cheap! *sends Clinton Kelly in your general direction* - Soup in a TARDIS
Huh. Haven't had to have pants altered (other than suit pants) in years and years. Either lucky or because some places offer a wide range of fairly precise inseam sizes. Admittedly, I don't wear fancy or expensive pants (or jeans, but that's a separate issue): Pretty much all Lands End and LL Bean at this point. - Walt Crawford
All the slacks I buy come with an uncut leg. You have to get them altered unless you're like 7 feet. - Jeff (Team マクダジ ) from iPhone
Regarding slacks, I agree, Jeff. Most of the pants I'd get from http://www.fivefourclothing.com/club... would be khakis or jeans though. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well the jeans I buy only come in one inseam which is much too long for me so I have to get them altered. - Jeff (Team マクダジ ) from iPhone
Todd Hoff
50% of GDP comes from orange areas, 50% from blue.
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Damn, that's amazing. - Todd Hoff
I'd like to see a similar graphic, normalized to population. - Tinfoil 2.0
And what would that tell you? - Todd Hoff
It would tell you productivity per capita--which areas have high productivity even though they have lower population. - Joe - Systems Analyst
This map as it is seems to suggest that resource extraction industries largely benefit corporate headquarters. - Andrew C (✔)
The thing is, most of the people are in the orange areas (although it doesn't look like it matches with *all* the urban centers in the country, so I'm guessing they just selected the biggest cities until they matched 50% of GDP?) Considering that 80% of the people live in cities or suburbs, this shouldn't be that surprising, should it? - Victor Ganata
Now imagine the hot spots with an outer glow representing tax loophole and haven money that never goes directly to the Treasury. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
It also strikes me that areas with non-traditional intellectual and non-physical (i.e. digital) production are slighted in favor of those activities producing "traditional" output. Tacoma/Olympia weighted higher than Seattle/Redmond/Bothell? Even Silicon Valley doesn't get much critical mass. And, like Andrew said, activities that are actually fairly distributed/diffused across a... more... - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
“It’s just a population map!” ;) http://andywoodruff.com/blog... - Tinfoil 2.0
I still stand by the idea that they just cherry-picked metropolitan areas until it added up to 50% of GDP :) - Victor Ganata
Except, if that were the case, Victor, those metropolitan areas would have the same per capita GDP as the rest of the US when in fact, the per capita GDP in the urban areas is quite higher than the rural. In the case of San Jose it's something like twice the GDP. That's not cherry picking. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
No criteria for which metropolitan areas to include = arbitrary inclusion = cherry picking. - Victor Ganata
Or, to quote the post that Tinfoil linked to: "That’s not to say the original map did a good job of highlighting contrasts between population and economic activity, or really anything at all—it doesn’t expose any population information, and the arbitrary grouping means that these 23 metros are not necessarily more special than any others…." - Victor Ganata
Scoble, Alex Scoble
This is pretty awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch... Disney ultimately released Frozen in 41 different languages (25 of them are covered here) and they had to find different singers and voice actors for the bulk of them.
This is pretty awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC83NA5tAGE Disney ultimately released Frozen in 41 different languages (25 of them are covered here) and they had to find different singers and voice actors for the bulk of them.
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You'd hardly know it listening to the video though, they did such a great job of casting singers for the multiple languages. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I can't believe I haven't seen it yet. It's already out on DVD. Need to see it as I've heard such good things about it. - Spidra Webster
Victor Ganata
It's really amazing how much mucus can come out of someone's head.
Yeah, aside from death and taxes it seems to be another thing that's inevitable. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I KNOW! - MoTO Moca Blend from Android
if I weren't drowning in my own mucus, I'd lol. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Try going for a long run in single-digit temps and then watch what happens when you get back into the warmth of your home base. Your best option is to step back outside to a discreet location and use the time-tested "runners blow" technique. Otherwise you'll go through at least one box of tissues (toilet tissue, which is the preferred dual-purpose emergency paper product carried by many runners.) #SkirtingPoopingIssuesOnceAgain! - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
I am always amazed by just how big a baby's boogers can be. HOW CAN THEY BREATHE?! - Melly
BabyBoogersBabyBoogersBabyBoogersBOOM! I'm thinking this would be an excellent substitute for Patty Cake Patty Cake. (I just threw the BOOM in there for a climactic ending.) - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
Glen Campbell
Whoa. Remind me not to fall off the curb. - Louis Gray
That's a pretty steep learning "curb", LOL. Sorry, had to do it. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
PUN POLICE! OKAY SCOBLE, ASSUME THE POSITION! - Steel Penguin Slippy
Curb your enthusiasm - Louis Gray
Andrew C (✔)
So when do we become a post-nerd society? (Not anxious; I just want to be prepared.)
Hopefully never. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Unless, you know, post-nerd means a time when EVERYONE is like us. - Steel Penguin Slippy
If everyone's a nerd then no one is...how boring would that be. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And yet....friendfeed. There are flavours of nerd. - Steel Penguin Slippy
I'd rather live in a post-jock world. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
A question only asked in a pre-post-nerd society... - Kevin Johnson
Perinerdic. - Steel Penguin Slippy
I think we're already living in a post-post-nerd world, to be honest. - Victor Ganata
Alex, you did watch those episodes of The Big Bang Theory which illustrate our power over the archetypal jock in adulthood, right? - Steel Penguin Slippy
Maybe. It's a trope that's been done elsewhere too. I just don't think that it applies to high school yet. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Indeed, but let's get back to the word I just invented. Perinerdic. The transitional phase between pre- and post-nerd society. We have done much, but there is much yet to do. - Steel Penguin Slippy
Scoble, Alex Scoble
Some people may think that it's ironic that I'm posting this, but whatever, I'm posting it anyhow. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from Bookmarklet
It's really not as bad as all that. It's really more the death of the credentials of expertise. You can't just intimidate people with your diplomas or certifications or job titles or your privileged position in society any more. You actually have to earn people's trust the old fashioned way. - Victor Ganata
Recognizing that science and logic have limits != death of Western Civilization. People really need to get over that. - Victor Ganata
Yes, which is really inefficient. The author isn't talking about intimidation, he's talking about the notion that if we really want to be involved in a conversation, we have to understand how to have a conversation and be able to talk intelligently about the topic at hand. He's saying if you can't do those things, you probably shouldn't make opinions about something. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And as he said, it's not a good thing at all that people listen to someone like Jenny McCarthy over the experts on vaccinations and disease. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I just realized how ironic it is that we are discussing this, LOL. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It comes down to trust, though. If I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about, it really doesn't matter if you have a bunch of letters after your name or a piece of paper on your wall. I mean, yeah, anti-vaxxers have caused documentable harm, but, realistically, there's probably *nothing* that will convince them, expertise or no. No, this article is more about freaking out about the loss of privilege. - Victor Ganata
It's more like complaining about the transfer of privilege from the intellectuals to the popular. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I really felt for the section of this that talked about the continuous revisiting of first-principles in debate because new people come in and make a lot of noise and they know nothing about the topic. So the debate goes around and around on the same basic crap because people can't be bothered to come up to speed. - Andy Bakun
There's also good faith, though. I mean, it doesn't take *that* long to figure out who really has an interest in learning something versus people who are just trolling. This is a brave new interconnected world with shifting privileges that we're living in, and there's no use crying over what was. - Victor Ganata
I agree, Andy. Anyhow, Victor, I posted this because I thought it was interesting and does highlight many of the problems of the democratization of discourse that the internet has brought, but it doesn't mean that it's totally right either. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I also found it interesting because I am "guilty" of what the author charges. I don't care what someone's credentials are, or how many followers they have, or whatever. If I think they've said something wrong, I'll say so. I've also jumped all over people who've said things that are obviously stupid. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's a tiresome argument in itself, to be honest. You hear it all the time from old school docs who fret about not being able to force patients to do what the old school docs think is best. Well, those days are gone, we have to live in the present, not mourn the past the will never be again. - Victor Ganata
Except that humans are practically bred to mourn, heh. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well, no one likes losing their privileges, especially when they think they've earned them. That's definitely human nature. - Victor Ganata
It almost feels like this guy is railing against skepticism. Which is kind of ironic since skepticism is one of the core principles of science. - Victor Ganata
Yes, but he's railing against a lot of things. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I mean, even experts succumb to the bike shed trap. I just think that anything we can do to prevent people from falling for fallacious crap like the whole anti-vaccine thing is a good thing. I agree with you though, that he doesn't have an answer for that. Then again, neither do I. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Big Joe Silence
QOTD: "The average hip replacement in the USA costs $40,364. In Spain, it costs $7,371."
"That means I can literally fly to Spain, live in Madrid for 2 years, learn Spanish, run with the bulls, get trampled, get my hip replaced again, and fly home for less than the cost of a hip replacement in the US." - Big Joe Silence
How much does the average American pay out of pocket, though? From what I understand, costs for healthcare services in this country are pretty difficult to ferret out. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
define "average", tho? - Big Joe Silence
Or you could come here, sit on a waiting list for (Rnd(10)+2) years and get it for free. - Steel Penguin Slippy
A person making $45k a year with insurance. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
depends on the insurance. REALLY. some insurance is utter crap. often has nothing to do with how much money you're earning, too. - Big Joe Silence
Yeah, that's pretty much the entire mess that is the U.S. health care system. Charges != cost != actual reimbursements. - Victor Ganata
about 13 years ago, i was pulling a mere $37k a year but had FANTASTIC insurance that covered nearly everything. the premium was paid for me by my employer and the deductible was $500/yr. now? the ppl i used to work with make damned near six figures but the insurance they get is practically worthless; high premium, high deductible and many things not covered. - Big Joe Silence
Victor Ganata
I think this is what they really mean when they say it's a trust economy. It's not some bullshit thing like a Klout score or something. It means that the only way you can get people to believe you is if they trust you, and it's no longer enough to just assert the privileges you think should be accorded to your stature. You have to earn trust.
One problem arises when people trust someone for the wrong reasons. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, but blind faith in experts hardly alleviates that problem. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, that's still the same problem, heh. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Mary Carmen
OMG, who cares?????? #beibergate
The Beleibers, obviously. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not a big issue but it does highlight some ugly truths about society. The Teflon coating of the rich and the almost god like devotion young fans give him (including downplaying the seriousness of DUI). It doesn't require 24 hour coverage, but it's a yardstick in societal values - Johnny from iPhone
Unfortunately he's a local boy to my area, so not only did we see coverage of his misbehaving, but person on the street interviews with locals who are are so disappointed in him - DJF from Android
Yeah, he's not being very Canadian. - Holly's favorite Anna
he was exported for a reason. - jambina
Victor Ganata
You can't dislodge an accepted hypothesis until you have an alternate hypothesis that explains both the things that the accepted hypothesis explains and things that the accepted hypothesis can't explain.
This is why even scientists didn't take Copernicus seriously when he came out with De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, because his system couldn't explain anything. Kepler had to fix his model so that it actually made useful predictions. - Victor Ganata
This is also why denialism is generally pointless. You'll never convince anyone they're wrong until you have a better explanation. - Victor Ganata
The deniers would probably argue that their alternative is the null hypothesis. The fact that the data doesn't support it isn't their problem ;-) - DJF from Android
But for some people, you can have all the data in the world (like evolution), and they won't believe it. - Joe - Systems Analyst
If only better was a purely factual issue. - Todd Hoff
Heh, the thing is, null hypotheses are only useful in statistical testing. Data is always going to be subject to interpretation, but I think the key to successful models is the explanatory power. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I guess it's not really about "better", though. It's about whether the model can adequately answer the question "Why?" Denialism is ultimately just about saying "No, you're wrong!" and doesn't explain anything. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Science never answers why. Why is anything the way it is? Science just describes what is. - Todd Hoff
Models do explain why, though. So long as causality is a thing, it is possible to answer the question "Why?" at least for proximal causes. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
The very first step in the scientific method is observation if observations don't fit models the hypothesis eventually falsifies itself. - Eric Logan
You can't start collecting data until you have a hypothesis to test. The textbook scientific method isn't really how science typically proceeds. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Like, we know both quantum mechanics and general relativity fail to make useful predictions in certain circumstances, so we know, ultimately, that they're not really right, but since there isn't anything that explains what happens in those circumstances and also explains what we already know, they're still the accepted models. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Quantum theory has for most of it's existence been hypothetical projections of unobservable phenomena. Much of the work that is being done in the field is an attempt to confirm these with actual observations. - Eric Logan
Quantum mechanics underlies how to build nuclear weapons and CPUs, so it definitely has readily observable components. Maybe you're thinking of superstring theory? - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Quantum mechanics involves virtual particles that are well modeled and mathematically necessary, but have never actually been observed some of these particles violate the laws of classical physics. Since the models work they are still used. - Eric Logan
The very first thing they taught us in my college chemistry class was the quantum mechanical model of the atom. It's the reason for the layout of the periodic table of elements, the underlying basis of the existence of electron shells, which are the underlying basis of all of chemistry, really. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Even in the periodic table though there where gaps of substances that mathematically existed, but had not yet been observed. As technology progressed we named and observed new predicted elements including Mendelevium whose namesake brought us the chart. - Eric Logan
Sure, the periodic table was originally arranged from empirical observations, but quantum mechanics is what explains the underlying principles that put the elements in that particular order. With the understanding of nuclear chemistry, it's not so much about serendipitously discovering new elements in nature as it is synthesizing new elements using particle accelerators. Quantum mechanics is what makes modern day alchemical transmutation possible :D - Victor Ganata
It still violates so called laws of physics though, but the models work so we continue to use it because it's the best model we have presently even though it is acknowledged as incomplete. It is accurate in practice. - Eric Logan
How does it violate the laws of physics? Quantum mechanics *are* laws of physics. The major perceived flaws seem more conceptual issues rather than a case of giving totally wrong predictions. One, there doesn't seem to be an underlying principle to the fine-tuned values of the 18 parameters that define the standard model of QM, which is more of an elegance argument than anything. Two, there's no consistent way to quantize General Relativity that doesn't give you crazy answers in certain circumstances. - Victor Ganata
But as far as experimental data, goes, they match the predictions of the standard model of QM to 5 standard deviations. - Victor Ganata
Maybe I should clarify and say that it violates our classical understanding of the laws of physics. Superposition, entanglement, etc. I think at some point we reconcile the disparities, but presently we really don't understand how it works we just know that it does in fact work. - Eric Logan
Bose - Einstein condensates as a state of matter was predicted 70 years before it was actually observed in a laboratory. They are still working to reconcile the conundrum. Ultrarelativistic Bose-Einstein Gas on Lorentz Symmetry Violation. http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.4604 - Eric Logan
Reconcile with what, though? Sure, Bose-Einstein condensates are more complicated than Bose and Einstein predicted, but I don't think the experimental data actually breaks any existing models. The models explaining that specific behavior of matter just haven't been well explicated yet. - Victor Ganata
It violates the second law of thermodynamics as we understand it if it can be replicated at classical scale and temperature. It can't presently, but we don't understand why and certainly quantum mechanics are operating above scales that we currently can measure. We have demonstrated Superposition at higher scales using Photons recently. - Eric Logan
Hmm. I'm not sure how Bose-Einstein condensates actually break the 2nd law. You need to provide energy to keep matter in that state, so the high degree of order isn't really a problem. - Victor Ganata
The working hypothesis is that gravity makes the universe classical. If quantum superposition is not inherently random then the second law of thermodynamics can be theoretically violated. Gravity Makes the Universe Classical. http://physics.aps.org/article... - Eric Logan
I guess it's just another way to describe quantum decoherence, but superpositions don't necessarily violate the 2nd Law. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Observable bosonic superposition is actually not forbidden (hence, Bose-Einstein condensates) but fermionic superpositions would violate the Pauli exclusion principle, and I don't think anyone has ever observed fermions in such a state. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
That's also just one example of an apparent paradox. There are many. Physicists close two loopholes while violating local realism. http://phys.org/news... - Eric Logan
I disagree that one has to have a hypothesis before collecting data, or are you only talking about physics? For instance, penicillin was "discovered" and proven effective by accident. I don't think it's wise, for example, to come up with a hypothesis that something is true and then collect data trying to prove the hypothesis. Much better, in my opinion, to collect data and then come up with a hypothesis that fits the facts. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you don't have a hypothesis then you can't properly design an experimental group and a control group. You won't have good samples. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
If you just collect a bunch of data randomly then craft a hypothesis, that's called going on a fishing expedition, and it's why Big Data evangelism is freaky. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
See: data dredging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - this is not how real science generally works now, but I guess it might be once everyone drinks the Big Data Kool-Aid. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
"Circumventing the traditional scientific approach by conducting an experiment without a hypothesis can lead to premature conclusions." - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Entanglement just means quantum mechanics is right and Newtonian physics was incomplete, though. We're well past the point where human intuition can discern the shape of reality. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
If you think about it, Newton's Law of Gravity actually *did* rely on "spooky action at a distance" though. There was no light speed limit to worry about. And it didn't actually explain how gravity worked. Wouldn't it be funny if you could put the Theory of Everything together by assuming gravitons aren't constrained by the speed of light and/or are entangled? - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Experimentation is not "collecting data", in my opinion. Experimentation is "creating data". You can do experiments to prove some things, but not others. In my opinion, there are plenty of sciences, particularly those where you are studying things that already exist (geology and climatology come to mind), where you need to collect data before you have a chance of figuring out what's what. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Another example is collecting rock samples from the moon, Mars, etc. You have to collect the samples and analyze them before you can make any sort of determination of what the moon and Mars are made of. Asking questions can steer priorities, such as is there water on Mars or on the moon, but you don't need to do that to collect data. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Another example would be a lot of the basic research done on gorillas in the wild. They had to first observe the animals and collect data before they could really create any hypotheses about how they functioned as a group. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
As far as I know, a lot of the basic science on radiation, x-rays, etc. were based on "I wonder what this does", not "I think this does X therefore I'm going to experiment to see if it does X". - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I have to say that I'm surprised that you, of all people, would state a generalization such as this. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ask any real scientist, Alex. This is fairly basic. All the experiments NASA is having Curiosity do are based on hypotheses. They're just not randomly going out there to try and see if anything interesting happens - Victor Ganata
There's a hierarchy of evidence and experimental data is superior to observational data. This is not even really up for debate, to be honest. It's just conventional wisdom. - Victor Ganata
If you don't know what you're looking for, how are you going to test for it? Even observational studies have hypotheses. Otherwise its called post-hoc analysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and no one really trusts those types of conclusions. At best, they'll use them to formulate better a priori hypotheses and better experiments. - Victor Ganata
Sorry, but you made a gross generalization. You didn't say "the best way", you flat out said that you can't start collecting data without first having a hypothesis. This is, as all generalities are, untrue and I've given examples why, it isn't always true. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And with basic science, before you know enough about something to make a hypothesis, you have to collect data and observe to even begin to develop hypotheses. For example, there are species of animal that we have so little data on because they haven't come into contact with humans historically. There's just no way that you could make a hypothesis about their mating patterns, social... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And your generalization leaves no room for serendipity. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you don't explicate your hypotheses, then your observations will be biased by implicit assumptions. People don't collect data randomly. This is not to say you can't formulate hypotheses from serendipitous events. A lot of theories started out as flashes of insight. But they had to be tested. - Victor Ganata
A hypothesis *is* just a guess, Alex. A guess that can be proven or disproven. - Victor Ganata
You can collect all the data you want without explicating a hypothesis, but it's not science, and your data collection will always be biased by implicit assumptions. - Victor Ganata
I went off of the Wikipedia definition. That it's a potential explanation for observed phenomena. I think a significant body of science is out there looking for new phenomena that have never before been observed. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm not sure how collecting weather data at specific intervals for no other purpose than to collect weather data can be biased by implicit assumptions, other than perhaps the assumption that weather happens. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And many a scientist has biased their data collections to prove their hypothesis as well. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
There are a hell of a lot of implicit assumptions that affect the measurements from a weather station, though. Geographic location, land-based vs. sea-based, urban vs. rural, the types of measuring devices you use. How many stations you need to get enough samples. How often you need to sample. Your hypothesis is going to guide all these choices, so you have to explicate why you did what you did. - Victor Ganata
The thing is, if you make your hypothesis explicit instead of hiding your assumptions and biases, then people will know you're at least trying to work in good faith, even though it's impossible to eliminate or compensate for all assumptions and biases. - Victor Ganata
I mean, looking for new phenomenon that way makes no sense. You can't just trek out into the middle of nowhere, plant your gear to measure 60,000 different variables, and then hope something interesting is going to happen. You use existing theories and models to make a prediction. Then you have to construct a test to see if that prediction is true or not. You don't have 15 billion years to sift through all sorts of randomness. - Victor Ganata
Just the choice of what you measure or observe implies some assumption or bias, so I guess it's more correct to say that all data sets are always based on hypotheses, it's just that some data collectors are less than honest about what those assumptions or biases are than others. - Victor Ganata
If hypothesis could be something like "Hey, there's a part of this jungle here that's never been explored by humans, as far as we know, I'm sure we could find interesting things there." Then yeah, that's how a lot of science gets done. Of course, in general, as we've been building up more and more findings/knowledge/data, it's a lot less likely to have unknown phenomena, and you are much more likely to be finding answers to questions raised by the last experiments, then yeah, what you say works best. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
However, much of the foundational knowledge that we've built up certainly didn't happen that way. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I just think it's interesting that you're basically talking dogma here. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And a lot of knowledge *not* tested that way turned out to be wrong. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Exploration and discovery are hardly the same thing as science, although I don't dispute that exploration and discovery can inspire the formulation of testable ideas. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Wikipedia says what I'm trying to say better than I did "The overall process involves making conjectures (hypotheses), deriving predictions from them as logical consequences, and then carrying out experiments based on those predictions to determine whether the original conjecture was correct.[16] There are difficulties in a formulaic statement of method, however. Though the scientific... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not necessarily dogma, it's just how studies tend to be structured. - Victor Ganata
Fair enough. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Sure, there are a lot of steps before the actual formulation of a testable premise which might involve data collection. It's trial and error. Even before the hypothesis, you need to conceptualize a model. The hypothesis is the probe to test that model. - Victor Ganata
But my main point is that there's a reason why people look askance at data dredging, and why I think Big Data evangelists are scary. - Victor Ganata
Every observation has a context. If you don't acknowledge that context (and its limitations) then you're misleading people. - Victor Ganata
SCIENCE. - Mo Kargas
I'm not exactly sure I get the problem with big data. At that point, the bias isn't in the data collection, in my opinion, but rather with what you do with it. That you can use such systems to accurately track what people actually spend money on, for instance, will allow economists to build better models for markets. Of course, the flipside is that having all of that data in aggregation is inherently dangerous. See Target's recent problems with hackers as evidence of this. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
One other thing is that in a lot of cases, the data has been collected already. For instance, we are collecting a lot of data from Hubble and other similar instruments, in many cases for particular experiments, but that data can be mined for secondary observations as well. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
See also: data dredging. If you look for correlations, you're going to find them. It doesn't mean they're real. - Victor Ganata
Like I said, people measure things for a reason, consciously or not. It's better if you know exactly why you're measuring something. If you're using a sample that was obtained for some other purpose than yours, you *can* renormalize it and do all sorts of statistical manipulations, but the bottom line is that it might not be a good sample for you to test your hypothesis against. - Victor Ganata
Yep, but in many cases, you might not have a choice but to use previously collected data. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL, this is pretty much what you are talking about, I think. https://www.facebook.com/notes... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well, you can use the previously collected data to form a hypothesis, but you still have to run your own experiments. No one is going to trust you if you just use somebody else's data that was collected for some other purpose. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, that Princeton paper is a more obvious case, but the less obvious cases are the ones that screw lots of people over. - Victor Ganata
I'm also thinking that a hypothesis need not be very specific. For instance, a study taken to prove the hypothesis that 'out of the various methods of drying hands after washing them that there is one method that reduces bacteria contamination on the hands more than the others' should be enough to conduct a valid study. In my opinion, to favor one method over another in the hypothesis... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well, that's really a review article, not a study, so caveat lector. - Victor Ganata
"NASA scientists intend to lower temperatures in the lab to 100-pico-Kelvin, or just “one ten billionth of a degree above absolute zero,” the temperature at which it is theorized, that thermal activity of all atoms ceases. The researchers theorize that when objects are exposed to the extreme cold temperatures in the Cold Atom Lab, new forms of matter will be created as the notion of... more... - Eric Logan
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