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Stephen Mack
Celebrity deaths: A statistical analysis -
A statistical refutation of . The image above can be viewed full-size at . My conclusion? Celebrity deaths come in one-point-sevens, not #threes. - Stephen Mack
Awesome - Chieze Okoye
Thanks, Chieze! I enjoyed crunching actual data. - Stephen Mack
No refutations? Have I really killed it this time? - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I'm on a plane! - Kevin Fox from iPhone
See my blog comment -- From some perspective, deaths *always* come in 3's, you just have to see what the distribution of durations between deaths D and D+2 are. :) I'd like to know: What's the median (or 90, 95%ile) time for which "all deaths come in 3's" is true. - Steve and 4 other people
BTW, would also be nice to compare vs. a random control sample of a similar distribution to actual celebrity death data. - Steve and 4 other people
Steve, I've seen your blog comment now, and you've proposed an interesting approach. When I get some time I'll post the CSV data and run the analysis you suggest. However, you can tell at a glance from just the visual representation that the duration between D, D+1, and D+2 will vary wildly. - Stephen Mack
Davis, how do you propose testing for the global population? What groupings of the deaths do you think exist? Geography? - Stephen Mack
Also, Davis, you're right about July 99. You've got me thinking of another simple analysis: Number of deaths per month, and what percentage of the time that number is evenly divisible by three. - Stephen Mack
Steve, for the control data, what do you suggest? National obituaries? Death records for all inhabitants of a particular county? - Stephen Mack
No, just a random distribution. You know how many deaths occurred over your interval, so just simulate it assuming each person has a 1/Nth chance of dying each day (where N is the number of days in the sample). - Steve and 4 other people
And yup, I know the distribution will be pretty wide, and that's what's interesting about it. :) You should be able to compare that with the random distribution to see if there's any difference. - Steve and 4 other people
Man, this conversation reminds me of the stuff I liked about my stats class... 8^D - Chieze Okoye
Steve, I took a look at the suggestion of days between D and D+x as you suggested in more detail in your blog comment. For every metric (average days, median, etc.) the data is better explained by groups of 2 than groups of 3. Performance for all groupings was pathetic, with an average of at least 8 days overall even for groups of 2. The standard deviation was at least 4.5 days, which backs up my previous prediction that it would vary wildly. - Stephen Mack
Davis, I took a look at number of deaths per month as well. The number of months where the total deaths was divisible by three was... wait for it ... 38.2%, close to expected value of 33.3%. Average number of deaths per month is actually 7.7. - Stephen Mack
A revised version of the spreadsheet with new tabs ("Avg Days of Span" and "Calendar" respectively) for the two new methods is now available, - Stephen Mack
I've also provided a data file called CORPUS.TXT with just the names and dates, in CSV format: - Stephen Mack
If I'm reading that right, the ~50%ile of the number of days between D and D+2 is 7. To me, that says "half the time, 3 (or more) celebrities have died in the same week" That seems like the kind of thing that would easily turn into an urban myth. If you go out to 14 days, you get to nearly 87%! - Steve and 4 other people
Steve, yes. But 50% success is awful. Another way of saying that is, "half the time, when a celebrity dies, only 1 or 2 celebrities will die that week." So the myth at BEST is 50% right, when you allow a FULL WEEK for the deaths to coincide. You'd do better if the myth is that "celebrity deaths come in 2s" -- about half the time, 2 celebrities die in a period just 2 days apart. - Stephen Mack
Put another way: Using your method, "celebrity deaths come in twos" is more accurate than "celebrity deaths come in threes." So the superstition is wrong. - Stephen Mack
For an urban myth, I think 50% success rate is pretty good. :) - Steve and 4 other people
It's not 50%. To get 50%, you have to include 3 OR MORE (so, sometimes 4, sometimes 5, sometimes 10) -- and that's with AN ENTIRE WEEK of allowance. Remember, other variations of the myth (celebrities die in 2s, celebrities die in 1.7s) do better . You've seen the spreadsheet. There's no method where "celebrities die in 3s" has any statistical validity whatsoever. This myth has been 100% debunked. - Stephen Mack
The idea of 70% dead celebrity is kind of gruesome ;) (He's only mostly dead....) - Victor Ganata
He got better. - Stephen Mack
Send this data to Mythbusters! - Ken Gidley
Unless the Mythbusters team gets to actually blow up the celebrities to test whether they clump together in threes or not, I don't think this myth is quite telegenic enough for them. - Stephen Mack
Slacy created a graph in a separate thread here: - Stephen Mack
50/50 after 4 votes. Please go and vote your conscience! - Stephen Mack
I think what's missing is a solid theory of celebritigenesis. Without that, it's hard to figure out what the null hypothesis would be. - Victor Ganata
Rue McClannihan makes three!:-P Actually Stephen, I've got some interesting analysis to dovetail with your own that I hope to write up in the next few days. - Kevin Fox
Victor, I think's approach is good. A celebrity is hard to define, but (like many other things) we know one when we see one. Having an objective panel that independently answers "have you heard of this person?" is about as good a criteria as I can think of. - Stephen Mack
Kevin, I thought it was supposed to be Art/Gary/Dennis and now Rue starting a new series? This superstition is so hard to nail down! But regardless, I look forward to your analysis. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, I guess that's just it--where exactly is the threshold for celebrity vs non-celebrity? Are you famous if 1 million people know you, but not if only 999,999 people know you? I guess my question is, what do we actually think we're measuring? ;) - Victor Ganata
Art isn't famous to me, so it'd be Gary, Dennis and Rue. - Kevin Fox
Victor, it's an excellent question. If you want to create your own personal list of living celebrities, we can then monitor that list as they pass away and test whether or not they die in threes (whatever THAT means), and then judge whether or not the superstition is true for YOU. - Stephen Mack
Kevin, funny, I'd never heard of Rue before today. (Never watched Golden Girls.) It proves Victor's point. The subjective nature of the superstition is what makes it hard to prove or falsify. - Stephen Mack
The subjective nature makes it much easier to prove, just harder to tell whether it's meaningful. If, in any string of 10 deaths, there are clumps of three that are meaningful for one person that person will claim it to be an instance of the 'death in 3s' phenomenon, and for them it will be right. They'll have heard of several other instances of 'death in 3s' from their friends over the... more... - Kevin Fox
Now that I think of it, the null hypothesis would be thus: if celebrities *don't* die in clumps of three, then there should be roughly equal spacing between their deaths (+/- some error), regardless of what time frame you choose. So all you have to do is pick a threshold duration, wait for celebrities to die, and see if there's a statistically significant difference between the actual death rate versus if they just died at regular intervals instead. - Victor Ganata
So say we pick a duration of a week. If the null hypothesis is correct, then they should each die roughly within 2 days and 8 hours of each other. If it's tighter than that (we'd have to do the math to see at what point it would be statistically significant) then the alternative hypothesis is true, and they *do* die in clumps. - Victor Ganata
Kevin, exactly right. My first debunking (from 2008) used the same argument: "This belief is an example of selective perception (; You tend to remember the times when there was a grouping of three seemingly-related deaths in a short period of time, which reinforces the belief, but tend to forget the times when there wasn’t a pattern. As... more... - Stephen Mack
Another psychological factor to consider is mental temporal boundaries. If the weekend is a memory reset, where things on the far end of a weekend feel more removed, then three deaths in a work week, or in a single weekend, could be perceived as a clump even if the boundary between the first and the one previous to it is less than the boundary between the first and the third, just because the one before the work week 'feels significantly longer ago' - Kevin Fox
Victor, the raw data is available. (See links above.) There are 1,422 deaths over 5,669 days. So you expect the average death to be about 4 days apart, which in fact is what the data shows. The null hypothesis you propose in fact has strong significance in the data. - Stephen Mack
So there you have it. Proof that celebrities don't die in clumps but actually die at regular intervals. :D - Victor Ganata
Thank you, sir! *shakes hands with Victor* - Stephen Mack
Still like this thread. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Thanks, Micah. (In reviewing the above: I miss Chieze, and I'm still mad at Davis F. for deleting his account.) - Stephen Mack
Bumping from April 8, 2013 to today. - Stephen Mack
Bumping posts always comes in threes. - Louis Gray
RT @aswang: Facebook is down but Friendfeed is up :D
Victor Ganata
Facebook is down but Friendfeed is up :D
Mark Trapp
The acquisition of FriendFeed continues to haunt me: just got my 8th (I think) ContentID claim about Downfall — FriendFeed! This one is from the guys who started it all back in 2010: Constantin Film.
The acquisition of FriendFeed continues to haunt me: just got my 8th (I think) ContentID claim about Downfall — FriendFeed! This one is from the guys who started it all back in 2010: Constantin Film.
Previously: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) It's gotten so monotonous I didn't bother talking about 6 or 7, but this one comes full circle and comes with a takedown on Vimeo as well! - Mark Trapp
Good grief. - Jennifer Dittrich
Re....diculous. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Got an email from Vimeo this morning saying they put it back and made a note on my account explaining why it should stay up so it shouldn't happen again. Now if only YouTube would do that... - Mark Trapp
It's down again. :( - NOT THE CRICKET
:( - Anne Bouey
:( I should get around to self-hosting it sometime... - Mark Trapp
Bret Taylor
At the FriendFeed birthday dinner
Happy birthday FF! What a year! - Mike Doeff
hmmm where's all the all the laptops? - Brandon
I have never eaten fondue, but I dipped a graham cracker in a chocolate fountain once. - Pete D
Happy Birthday FFers (and THANKS) - Charlie Anzman
Cheers! - FFing Enigma
Congratulations on your first year! - Anne Bouey
Yeah, Melting Pot! - Eric
Congratulations and Happy Birthday, FriendFeed! :) - Mona Nomura
Oh yeah, and Happy Birthday, you're !!!!!!111!!!!!!ONE!!11 - Pete D
Happy Birthday... and Thank You - Johnny
프렌드피드 일주년을 축하드립니다. 더욱 더 발전하시고 더 좋은 서비스를 제공해주시기 바랍니다. 생일 축하드립니다. :D - zizukabi
Thank you for being such a huge part of my life this year! - Robert Scoble
heppy birfdeh young buck, you've had a bangin year. Tequila tonight, tomorrow we ride (as the Hells Angels say) - Marko Bon from fftogo
happy birthday and many more to go! FF ftw! :) - imabonehead
happy birthday guys! congrats on a terrific first year - John Lilly
Happy Birthday and thank you for an excellent service! - Mustafa K. Isik
Happy Birthday! I love FriendFeed! - Igor Poltavskiy
Awesome... I love small startups - Chris Lamprecht
Happy Birthday. Is that Ana busting open a screwcap? - Richard Chen
Happy Birthday FriendFeeders and thanks for great service. - Alexander Arsky
Happy Birthday, FriendFeed! - Vista
Happy Birthday, FriendFeed!!! Love ya'! *mwah* - Lisa L. Seifert
C'mon. It's FriendFeed... They should be having Birthday Pie (Chart). Either blue or orange. Both taste yummy. - Lisa L. Seifert
happy birthday friendfeed, and jeanette.....i miss u guys - goutham
Many happy returns, FriendFeed! - Richard Walker from twhirl
Happy Birthday FriendFeed! It's been amazing, so happy to have been a tiny part of it! - Iain Baker
A belated Happy Birthday, great service! - Bo Stern
Happy birthday! Long may you continue! - Martin Bryant
Congratulations and happy first birthday, guys. FrF is awesome, you're awesome, and your achievements in this year are awe-striking as well! :) - Православие и отвага
Happy birthday and congratulations! - Joe Dawson
FF is the best way of social communication atm - Phil Smirnov
Happy BIrthday Friendfeed crew! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Once again Ana is the only one doing any work in a FF picture. - Steve C
“~~~ HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRIENDFEED!!! ~~~” Fondue! I love fondue... jealous!! Let's have many more birthdays! Best of Luck, Success FTW!!! - Susan Beebe
congrats - Alex Hammer
I see here how it's okay for you to play on your iPhone during dinner ;) - wiredgnome
Wow! Posted almost 6 years ago and there it is on my TL (after someone I follow either posted a comment or liked it). This is the kind of features only Friendfeed was able to provide. Hope everybody on that picture had the career they were hoping for back then. - Pascal le Rudulier
*.* - LilaLaMarea from Android
lan... - akaşa
.LAG liked that
Paul Buchheit
Last friday I taped an iPhone to my head and ran around Paris capturing the most famous sights in a single (somewhat shaky) shot. Here's the video:
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*spot reserved for a later comment* - Micah from iPhone
Now we know what that 94 minute video was. :) - NOT THE CRICKET
that explain other FF posts, looking for tapes and where can one upload large video files ;-). - Tzury Bar Yochay
Yeah, I never did get the duct tape though, so I had to use clear packaging tape instead (with a sock stuffed between the iPhone and my hat to get the correctish angle). - Paul Buchheit
Patent it NOW - Josh Haley
Well, this is just genius! - Eric
When you said you ran you weren't speaking metaphorically. - Eric
Very Cool Paul! - Jeff P. Henderson
great and inspiring - Nenko Ivanov
this was perfect, I opened up my Paris map and followed you :) - İpek Aral
I'm surprised you were able to follow. I didn't have a map (my iPhone was taped to my head!) so I made a number of wrong turns, though the high-level route was pretty basic. - Paul Buchheit
Saw the vimeo on your stream and watched a little of it. Great stuff! Cool to see new iphone vid quality. (er 3gs? quality, hmm) Oh yeah, and enjoy Paris! - Jay
It's actually a 3GS, not an iphone 4. - Paul Buchheit
I think I might tape a photo of Paul with an iPhone taped to his head to my head because I want to get arrested for being a menace. - Akiva
You can fit an iPad on my forehead. - Josh Haley
Ahhh this explains the "ducktape in Paris" stuff LOL :D (that picture is full of geeky win!) - Susan Beebe
@Paul just curious how much battery did you have left after you were done recording? - BRҰANSAҰS
Something like 22%, as I recall. I had put the phone in airplane mode to reduce wireless consumption and also because I'm concerned that an incoming call would stop the video or something. - Paul Buchheit
Not bad. I guess you could get at least 2 hours of recording on one charge. - BRҰANSAҰS from BuddyFeed
Nice idea, OP - LANjackal
this is definitely on the list of 'quirkiest things ever done with an iPhone'. :-) - Olivia Lovag
this is so romantic - τorƍue
awesome, you just needed a gun and it would make a cool REAL-time FPS :) - Emil Kirichev
oh thanks you soo much!!! I love it! - Bojan Babic
surprisingly un-shaky - Sally Relton Shakespeare
Avg. speed: 9.48 km/h (9.23 mi in 94 min, see red track - Jérôme
Paul had the initial idea for Google Glass exactly two years before Google launched Glass. :) - Space Cowboy
Now, if only he had thought of Gmail. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I hope this isn't the start of a "people walk around cities w/smartphones taped to their hats" trend. - rönin
I hope it is - Mo Kargas
If so, it'll just be transitional until smartphones are replaced by glasses-phones. Or smart glasses. Do we have an official name for those yet? - Andrew C (✔)
Iphone taped to the forehead, what a nice way to show #IamAmerican abroad :) - непростые коротышки
first laugh of the day, ty a.t. - chaz2b
LOL, Google Glass back in the days. Monsieur: Martini? Great stuff as I was doing myself a lot of these then too... 9) - Zu from AOD
up di apprezzamento dall'Italia - naltro
Victor Ganata
Especially in space, doesn't it seem like kinetic weapons will always be better than pure energy weapons?
Except the problem with kinetic weapons in space is that if you miss, those projectiles keep going somewhere. Energy weapons don't miss, unless you are a bumbling storm trooper. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you pop off a large mass driver, you better be sure that you're going to hit your target, or some planet downstream is going to have a mass extinction. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
plus, the issue of countering the force of the weapon you just fired. unless you WANT to leave backwards in a hurry, that is. - Big Joe Silence
Hehe, Joe. I don't know. I think if you have the technology to be in space with a huge ass mass driver or similar weapon, you probably also have the technology to fire it while staying in place. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Energy weapons would also have recoil. Short range, targeting an energy weapon would be the same as targeting a projectile weapon. Long range, you'll have to deal with light speed delay with an energy weapon, while a projectile weapon can use smart ammunition. - Victor Ganata
Given a certain energy budget, it takes a lot less energy to imbue a projectile with enough kinetic energy to cause significant penetrating and blunt force damage than it would to fire a beam that would cause the same amount of penetrating damage. - Victor Ganata
B5 was largely using kinetic weapons, right? - Big Joe Silence
Despite Star Trek phasers and Star Wars turbolasers, all the hard SF I've come across has slowly convinced me that machine guns and missiles will still probably be the way to go in even in the 24th century:D - Victor Ganata
Wouldn't missiles lose to anti-missile lasers? - Andrew C (✔)
Well, Reagan never got IRL Star Wars to actually work. I don't think it was just because of political reasons. - Victor Ganata
Or maybe I'm taking Spies Like Us too literally - Victor Ganata
Take a looks at - especially the parts about kinetic ( and and laser ( weapons... Whenever this debate pops up, this site is a must read ! - Jean-Marc Liotier
Hah! So unless you've got the SDF-1's reflex cannon or the Death Star's superlaser or anything that would have enough power to completely vaporize whatever is incoming, it's unlikely that you'll manage to completely vaporize the projectile and you'll fragment it. It might actually be a lot worse for you because instead of one massive projectile that will make a single huge dent or hole, you'll have millions of tiny projectiles punching holes through your hull instead. - Victor Ganata
"Why are you flechetting yourself?" - Pete
Heh. "Stop punching microholes in your own hull. Stop punching microholes in your own hull." *Nelson haha* - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Who's more loathsome, AIG or Bernie Madoff?
Madoff stole billions of dollars, but AIG is taking money from all the taxpayers. - Gabe
AIG. There's not yet a Madoff bailout. - Paul Buchheit
excellent idea -- it *does*seem like madoff is a great candidate for some bailout money. - John Lilly
Madoff. He pleaded guilty to defrauding charities. AIG traders made bad bets, but so did more than half of Wall Street. - Misha Dynin
Misha: AIG made bad bets, then came to us for charity, and now they want to use that money to reward themselves for making such stupid bets. - Gabe
In my book, there is a difference between knowingly doing something illegal, and taking advantage of the system. AIG traders signed contracts with guaranteed bonuses, because they could. They collected the money--obviously undeserved--legally. They acted rationally, if not ethically. I don't blame the people who exploited the flaws in the system, but rather reserve loathing for those who were paid to protect the system and didn't do their job: SEC and politicians. - Misha Dynin
It was obvious to a lot of people that derivatives market is a time bomb. It was fairly obvious to me, and I have indirect exposure to financial industry. Here's a link from three years ago: It was obvious to Warren Buffett, who described the problem and predicted the crisis scenario in 2005 BRK annual report.... more... - Misha Dynin
$165mil in bonuses is 1/5000th of the total bailout cost. It's in the noise, not worth any attention. If it wasn't AIG who took advantage of the system, it would be somebody else. My beef is with people who knew the system is not robust, were in position to fix it, but didn't. - Misha Dynin
Misha, it sounds like you're saying that being unethical but legal is less loathsome than unethical and illegal. Being legal just means that you don't have to pay for your mistakes. That sounds pretty loathsome to me. - Gabe
I like the "Who's more loathsome?" theme. Can it be extended? - j1m
Misha, you should be disgusted with Buffett then. Berkshire was the largest shareholder of Moodys through all of their shenanigans, and it's clear he knew they were rating junk AAA. - Private Sanjeev
j1m, do you have people you think are more loathsome? - Gabe
John Lilly
Wow, Bret promoted to CTO at Facebook - smart, great guy. Congrats!
Thanks, John :) - Bret Taylor
@Bret. Congratz Bret.. - Ozgur Demir
Bret, well deserved! You're perfect for the position. - Jesse Stay
Super happy for you - incredibly well deserved. But I still want to get you working on another startup! Want to find something to do together. Looking for board stuff for you, too. - John Lilly from email
Congrats, Bret! - Mark Trapp
Now to see if Bret can take that confusing Facebook interface and make it into something nice like, for example, friendfeed. - Sue - Friendfeed is best
The Facebook "Lite" version helped simplify the interface, hopefully some of those concepts will make it into the standard design. - Mike Chelen
TechCrunch called it the Friendfeedification of Facebook. That can only be a good thing. Congrats! - Eric
Congratulations Bret! - Atul Arora
BT and FF did 'open' in the healthy, right, & honest way. Here's to bringing that positive force to a pretty unhealthy & confused company. Serious congratulations! Now... what would you do if you were CEO, Bret? That's what you need to do, starting today. - Christopher Galtenberg
Congrats, Bret! - Kol Tregaskes
Good on ya, Bret!! :) - Skye Miller
Congrats Bret! - Bojan Babic
Bret Taylor
For Today’s Graduate, Just One Word - Statistics - -
For Today’s Graduate, Just One Word - Statistics -
For Today’s Graduate, Just One Word - Statistics -
Carrie getting some much deserved attention. "Ms. Grimes is an Internet-age statistician, one of many who are changing the image of the profession as a place for dronish number nerds. They are finding themselves increasingly in demand — and even cool. “I keep saying that the sexy job in the next 10 years will be statisticians,” said Hal Varian, chief economist at Google. “And I’m not kidding.”" - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
Great article, but it left out that statisticians need some CS muscle to effectively operate on large scale data. It's the combination that make Carrie -- and others like her -- 'Internet-age' statisticians. - Michael E. Driscoll
Michael, plenty of CS muscle, and also training in specialized packages like/from the SAS etc. - ianf ⌘
Oh, this is old from 2009.... Silly me. Bumped because of spammy comment? - Joe
Somebody really wants Bret Taylor to buy some new suits... - Lisa L. Seifert
Would you please subscribe me to could send you a direct message? - سلوچ
Spidra Webster
Hand Soap Ingredient Can Up Body Bacteria Burden - Scientific American -
Hand Soap Ingredient Can Up Body Bacteria Burden - Scientific American
"The antimicrobial triclosan is a common ingredient in hand soap. But it's also found in shampoos, deodorants, toothpaste, even lip gloss. So it's not too surprising that triclosan also shows up in blood, urine, breast milk and mucus. But here's the weird thing—those triclosan residues may actually boost bacterial growth in our bodies. So says a study in the journal mBio. [Adnan K. Syed et al, Triclosan Promotes Staphylococcus aureus Nasal Colonization] Researchers swabbed inside the noses of 90 adults. 37 of the 90 tested positive for triclosan—and those who did were twice as likely to have the bug Staphylococcus aureus living in their noses. Rats, too, were more susceptible to staph if fed triclosan. Seems counterintuitive, but when bacteria are exposed to sublethal levels of antibiotics, they get stressed, and “they attach to surfaces and hunker down, in things we call biofilms." That's study author Blaise Boles, of the University of Michigan. He says that stash of staph could put... more... - Spidra Webster from Bookmarklet
"When FDA first started evaluating the rules governing triclosan's use, Richard Nixon was still president," said Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass, who asked the FDA to take a closer look at triclosan in 2010 after the European Union banned the chemical from products that come into contact with food. - непростые коротышки
"Triclosan is added to many consumer goods such as cosmetics and detergents to kill microorganisms or inhibit their growth. It serves as disinfectant, preservative or antiseptic and is widely used in health care and animal husbandry. There is concern that this widespread use of triclosan may lead to the emergence or proliferation of harmful bacteria that are resistant to both biocides and antibiotics." European Commission SC - непростые коротышки
Andrew C (✔)
I probably say "I don't know" more for diplomacy than not knowing.
Probably? - Meg VMeg
Well, I'm not sure. Or don't know. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Still waiting for all of those websites affected by the Heartbleed vulnerability to let me know my security may have been compromised. No?
I've gotten two such notifications today. - Ken Gidley
0 so far, but will my CU send out another credit card with another number to memorize? - Neal Krummell
I got two from IFTTT, and one from Wunderlist. I have no idea what Wunderlist is, and I do not know if I have a Wunderlist account. - Meg VMeg
No, in fact, I do not have a Wunderlist account, because when you click "Login" it asks me for 10 MB of disk space, right off the bat. Awesome. - Meg VMeg
I've had a few -- the major outstanding one for me is Netflix; LastPass shows them as vulnerable, but no word yet. [Wunderlist is a 'to do' list app developer -- they got a lot of press a couple of years ago. I've got an old account there, but the password isn't used for anything else.] - Jennifer Dittrich
Victor Ganata
I'm starting to think that changing passwords might not be a bad idea even if they haven't patched up. Sure, if there's an ongoing exploit, they can just get your new password, but if they *already* have your password, you'll totally get screwed if you don't change it now.
It just doubles the work, is all. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, I'm staring at my list of about 10 websites that haven't recently updated and are considered vulnerable. There were a few that didn't matter because the actual login information is now Facebook, or something similar, but there are some that will need to be changed once they update their certs, if they do. If they don't, I guess I cancel/delete my account. - Jennifer Dittrich
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Victor Ganata
The more I think about it, the more it seems Bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies) are basically just like any other electronic deposit account, except without the protections. (No fraud protection, no FDIC, etc., etc.) You might as well mail people gold through the USPS.
At least you get a tracking number. - Tinfoil 2.0
If it's good enough for Jimmy Carter... - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I also think it's a way to avoid taxation. We have a goods and services tax which is 10%. I am yet to get a firm answer from any vendor who deals with Bitcoin locally (coffee shops etc) or people I know who deal in Bitcoin locally if they pay/collect that GST on their transactions. - Johnny from iPhone
I guess if you never cash out and use your accumulated Bitcoin to buy things directly, you're fine, but you'll get taxed the moment you convert back to a fiat currency (although perhaps at more favorable rates) - Victor Ganata
But that's the thing, if I buy a coffee, the business is suppose to collect the GST. It's essentially a black market tool. If it exists as a batter method that's outside our taxation system, that could have implications for businesses - Johnny from iPhone
Yeah, it's going to be pretty jurisdiction dependent. In the U.S., at least, the IRS hasn't given any specific recommendations yet. From what I understand, if they rule it's a currency, then it gets taxed as earned income. If they rule it's a commodity, then it gets taxed as capital gains. As far as sales tax works, I have no idea how the states and municipalities are going to handle it. - Victor Ganata
The small print I've seen on a live "we accept Bitcoin" ad in SF mentioned that taxes are assessed as the exchange rate is calculated, at whatever the local rate is - so the customer does pay whatever tax they'd be responsible for. That was a very visible, commercial deployment, however. - Jennifer Dittrich
Dave Winer
Zuck hired an 85-year-old for his brains, experience and creativity. Just not in software.
Dave Winer
Zuck who hired an 85-year-old architect to design his campus, won't consider architects in tech 1/2 his age. That's a bug.
Can you retrain yourself to change you eating habits? I can skip breakfast, eat a light lunch and then at like 8pm eat like a member of the Night Watch on Game of Thrones. o_O I'd love to start the day with breakfast being my largest meal and then pace myself with smaller meals through the rest of the day, maybe eating a total of 5 or 6 times.
Wondering if anyone has had any success with this method of eating. - Derrick
I think the biggest challenge for me is eating breakfast. I wake with no real appetite, and even eating something light can seem like a chore. I suppose I can try starting out with maybe eating multiple smaller meals throughout the day rather than three seemingly substantial ones. - Derrick
I eat pretty much all day long - starting about 75 min. after I get up. Then a snack a few hours later, then lunch, then another snack, then dinner … then another snack. All relatively small, but I am pretty much always eating. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I could never eat first thing in the morning, but I did have fruit or an egg sandwich or something and the necessary coffee once I got to work. Lunch is very important at work, mainly to get away for a while. By the time I got home I didn't feel much like cooking anything so it would be a very light meal. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I've had some success with this - the biggest thing for me was allowing myself to eat later in the morning. I'm not hungry when I get up, so I have to let myself take time about 2-3 hours later to actually eat a larger breakfast. Usually I'm hungry by then. Also, making smaller meals for dinner made it more likely I'd be hungry earlier. I used to skip, or not eat breakfast until after 10. Now, I eat a good breakfast at around 8:30-9:30. - Jennifer Dittrich
If you figure this out, please share any tips. Because I'm self-employed and working from home, I keep weird hours and sometimes my first true meal isn't until noon or later. - Corinne L
I had to train myself to eat breakfast. I started small with thing like a piece of fruit and some peanut butter and worked my way up. - Katy S from iPhone
I have this problem, too. I'd also like to change my habits so I want to eat in the mornings. - Trish R from iPhone
I should probably note that I don't always want to eat in the morning now, but I can tolerate it and I do feel like I have more energy throughout the morning as long as it's a high protein breakfast. - Katy S
What Jennifer said but in a British accent. - Akiva
I am starving when I wake up. Then I feel that way every few hours for the rest of the day. I got nothin. - laura x from iPhone
My sister was like that. She woke up starving. She was always naturally slim, too. I guess it works - if you can face food first thing in the morning. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
My current work schedule has changed my eating schedule and it's working out okay. But the healthy plan falls apart if I don't start with breakfast (cold cereal and milk and yogurt) no later than 6:30. Lunch at 10 (lately, frozen gyoza or dumplings with a frozen vegetable mix, all steamed in the microwave), before I leave the house at 10:30 to go to first job. I leave first job at 4 and... more... - Betsy
D, you might look at Ian Smith's_ Shred_ plan. You eat 3-4 small meals plus snacks throughout the day on that one. Smoothies are a common breakfast option. - LB's 10:19pm Name Change from Android
I got myself switched around mentally first, be deciding I wanted to follow this idea: Eat like a king for breakfast, a prince for lunch, and a pauper for dinner. on days when I actually eat like this I wake up famished and the cycle becomes easier to maintain. and oddly enough every.single.thing. they say about eating breakfast becomes true. but still i often fall off the monarchy diet. - Lnorigb
Lnorigb, I like that concept! - Anne Bouey
Lnorigb, that's the idea behind my meals. I think my breakfast is the highest calorie meal and the salad is the lowest. I read about it when I was a kid, not sure where. Reader's Digest maybe? - Betsy from FFHound(roid)!
Feeding the furnace first thing in the morning allows for more efficiency was how it had been explained to me. - Janet
I snacked on a little fruit about three hours after I woke up today, and that was even after eating a fairly light dinner last night. :( Like most all good things, this is going to take some time, I reckon. - Derrick
Yes - Shevonne from iPhone
A PBJ sandwich for breakfast has been serving my skinny daughter well for years. It's quick and easy to make, and high in protein. It's also good for curbing your appetite. Another breakfast food she reaches for on occasion, especially in winter, is slow cooked oatmeal. Stay away from quick oats or the instant stuff in the packets...metabolizes too fast and leaves you hungry shortly... more... - April Russo
Andrew C (✔)
If the McChicken followed the logic of the McRib, it would be ground chicken shaped like a drumstick.
I feel like they channeled that into the McNuggets instead. - Jennifer Dittrich
But McNuggets don't resemble real chicken parts! Where's the "boot" on a chicken? - Andrew C (✔) from Android
It's surrounded by other chicken-y parts, like the patty circle and wing without bones, duh. - Jennifer Dittrich
AJ Batac
This. - Mike Nayyar
Please can anyone tell me what 'Team Frank' is all about? intrigued..cheers - Jason
Thanks, Bruce. I was having trouble with FF search in trying to find the thread! - LB's 10:19pm Name Change
Thank you, Bruce - Jason
Happy to help. - Bruce Lewis
This was the first thing I saw when I logged in :) - Ashish
This is gorgeous. The result of a tatted up cow:) - Liza + = ?
Mee toooooo! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
me Three, - Roberto Bonini
Me too! - Halil
FriendFeed forever! - Barbara R. S.
Yup. - Steven Perez
AFFirmative. - Kevin Johnson
Hooray! - Fleagle
Hear hear! - Franc, a rememberer
Oh. - sofarsoShawn
Right now, Mark Zuckerberg is sitting in a dark room, looking at monitors on the screen. A big red button marked "Kill Friendfeed" sits on the armchair to his right. As he giggles menacingly under his breath, his finger hovers ever-so-gently over the button... - Fleagle
pleather <3 - CarlC
yep! - Kamil
++ Fleagle. "And suddenly, a question pops his head. How come, why not here on my own developed turf? He sips the last of his milk glass, raising the finger off the button, and decided to give them another day." -The book of SocNet, 12:10 - Zu from AOD
♥ ♥ ♥ - Ali Yolcu
Bu yazı fontu kim de var acaba. - Tesbih
Haha, always fun to stumble on an old post and see how you reacted at the time. #SomeFFLove - Zu from AOD
AJ BATAC Git burdan. O.O - Tarık
MG Siegler
Remember when I made this? Can't wait for this functionality to come to FriendFeed. Hot Dog Stand here I come!
Remember when I made this? Can't wait for this functionality to come to FriendFeed. Hot Dog Stand here I come!
woah - tell me you're still not using this...its quite possibly the ugliest thing ive ever seen. - Zee.
Now I'm craving Hot Dogs - Jesse Stay
i call it eggplant orange juice with blood. - MG Siegler
for healthy vampires - Eric Eldon
I feel bad for your monitor that has to serve that up...haha - Mike Bracco
MG, maybe we should save you the trouble and make one that looks like this for you. We'll call it parislemon. - Dan Hsiao
i think that may cause a FF revolt. or vomiting. - MG Siegler
Absolutely love the color scheme! :) - Jonathan Hardesty
lol it's festive. My Gmail is bright green and orange. LOVE - BEX
ya lets myspace up this bitch! - sean percival
Paul -- hey you listenin'? hhaha! don't ya love those colors! LOL (Dan - good idea!, do it!! haha) - Susan Beebe
Looks like a box of Crayola's just threw up. : ) - Mike Doeff
Cool - Andrew
I would go out of my mind by the end of the day. LOL - Drew Lucas
Painful. - Anne Bouey
This is a beautiful work of art. Bravo! Encore! - Sarah Lane
i aim to please. - MG Siegler
Just looking at that might give you colon cancer. - Gary C
Or keep you away from gmail long enough to be productive on the task at hand. - Mitch
FriendFeed has themes now. - Robert MacEwan
much harder to ugly this up, but i tried - MG Siegler
looks like helvetica to me... :) - Jim: with more caffeine!
did u build it yet? lol - Phillip Grady Jr
literally brilliant way to push people to use gmail... ;) - Marc Mulhern
its ugly as sin but it is a point. I would love to have a bit of text control and layout control and colour control. - workingbike feed
Hello my dear Nice to meet you online my name is miss Gift i saw your profile today and pick interest in you. please i will like you to contact me at ( to tell you more about me and give you my photo's hoping to hear from you you'rs Gift ( - gift
1998 all over again. - Will Higgins™
Steven Perez
I had no idea just how much I hated commercials until I tried to watch a two-hour movie on television. Bill Hicks was right.
TV over here drives me mad! Even with a PVR the ads tear up any semblance of pacing, tension and storytelling. - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
And pundits wonder why "binge-watching" is so popular. - Steven Perez from Android
Glen Campbell
I should "cultivate an appreciation of small pleasures."
The size of the pleasure doesn't matter. - Louis Gray
TIL On Facebook: By not being in America, I cannot comment on issues inside America or know more than an American on a specific issue.
Hogwash. - Betsy from FFHound(roid)!
What Betsy says. - Walt Crawford
balderdash - Big Joe Silence
Considering how ill informed so many Americans are... it would be scary if the rest of the world could only be less informed. - Heather
horse feathers! - Jim: with more caffeine!
Victor Ganata
I never realized how many episodes of ST:TNG and ST:Voyager that Nick Sagan (Carl Sagan's son) wrote.
RT @alsboy: It's that time again You knew it was coming You can't stop it It's your regular reminder about 'Overdramatic Cat'
RT @alsboy: It's that time again  You knew it was coming  You can't stop it  It's your regular reminder about 'Overdramatic Cat'
holly #ravingfangirl
RT @pinest8biscuits: In the beginning, there was dough. #pdx #pdxeats #biscuits #southernfood @ Pine State Biscuits
RT @pinest8biscuits: In the beginning, there was dough. #pdx #pdxeats #biscuits #southernfood @ Pine State Biscuits
They look so perfect. - Derrick
right? i feel silly swooning over biscuits, but damn. - holly #ravingfangirl
I thought about making a batch with some roasted jalapenos and white cheddar rolled in. Just...well, why not? An egg tucked inside would be so awesome. - Derrick
We made sweet almond biscuits in class recently when we made strawberry shortcake and our chef instructor had us substitute baking soda and cream of tartar for baking powder. He swears it improves the taste. I'm going to have to try that at home with regular biscuits to see if there's a difference. - Trish R from iPhone
St Patrick's Day nails.
St Patrick's Day nails.
Oh, that's a good idea! Yours are cute! I should take time tomorrow to paint mine. - Jennifer Dittrich
ooh, i need to do that. - holly #ravingfangirl
I really like the colour on my index finger but I'm not sure about the other green. Probably because it reminds me of the time I had a really bad sinus infection *gag* - Melly
dolma parmak:)))ha ha...çok hoş.) - neferteti
Bacaklar hiç güneş görmemiş - antabus from iPhone
That's because the sun is evil! I live in Australia, melanoma capital of the world. I avoid it wherever possible. - Melly
Melly Knee! Also, *cough*... er, nice nails - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
Ha! - Melly
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