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WarLord
The racist uproar over Coke's America the Beautiful ad is why the Republicans can never agree to any form of immigration reform other than a big fence and men with guns #whywecantetcetc
Johnny
Tilley and I are quietly judging the new Superman/Batman casting http://t.co/4QX3c8FhIT
Tilley and I are quietly judging the new Superman/Batman casting http://t.co/4QX3c8FhIT
Tilley seems to be feeling much better. - Betsy
Derrick
Adding Delaware and Pennsylvania to my list of new-to-me states.
Like, you had never heard of them? ;) - Steele Lawman
Yes. :) - Derrick from iPhone
are you at ALA Midwinter, then? - Steele Lawman
Yes, or rather I will be. Headed there now. - Derrick from iPhone
They totally didn't exist before Derrick visited them. *nods* - RepoRat
we call Pennsylvania the road-kill state. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
C'mon. Philadelphia cream cheese, yo. - Laura Norvig
When will you be in PA Derrick? - Janet
NOW YOU ARE DEL-AWARE!!!! (Stolen from Conan O'Brien. Of course.) - Zamms
I'll be there daily and commuting from Delaware through Sunday for the conference. Heading back to DC on Monday. - Derrick from iPhone
You'll have to check out the eastern shore of MD and the DE beaches when it's warmer. Lots of fun places to visit. I'm actually working on a trip back east for late spring so maybe we can do a mini road trip to the beach! - Corinne L
Stephen Mack
PowerPoint: “I heard you liked hidden things, so I hid the hide menu afforandance” - http://www.zeigen.com/blog...
[Image of the right-click menu in PowerPoint, with a very subtle indicator that a slide is hidden
(Alternate theory not presented in my blog post: It's possible that it's not subtle at all, and that my eyes are just getting worse.) - Stephen Mack
It might only be because you've pointed out the hidden slide in your post, but it does look substantially desaturated (particularly the blue footer) when compared to the other, non-hidden slide. Given no other cues, I think I might mistake that for being selected, though. - Mark Trapp
Mark, good point. But the gray text was noticeable to me -- and I even thought it might mean it was hidden. I just was thrown off because the right click menu affordance wasn't what I expected. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Yeah, that is pretty wacky, especially considering none of the other icons in the menu act as a toggle indicator. - Mark Trapp
I call the right-click menu a contextual menu. I've never heard the phrase "menu accordance" before. I learned something today! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Zu: well, it is a context menu. Affordance is more the way how you know something operates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Stephen Mack from iPhone
There was an ancient Robert Scoble post here on FF attacking Kevin Fox because of (Robert's claim of) broken affordances. He used the word affordance 20 times. Someone's comment (maybe Akiva?) was "Guess who just learned a new word!" Ironically, though, that WAS where I learned this word. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
That post went beyond attacking, I thought. Very nasty. I unfollowed Scoble wherever I was following him because of that. - Jim is digging out.
Thread's still here, but not the comment I was thinking of: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Jim, you're right, it was nasty and still is. I don't miss the R.Scoble-type acolyes in that thread who did little other than complain about FF. - Stephen Mack
Oh! Zu, I forgot to tell you something! I typed "Zy" by accident on my phone when I was making an earlier comment, and it got auto-corrected to Zu! MY PHONE KNOWS YOU. - Stephen Mack
Every phone should know my name! I don't remember that thread but I promise I won't say affordance 20 times. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Damn that thread is long! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Zu, yeah, FF was a bit exhausting sometimes back in the day. - Stephen Mack
One of my co-workers pointed out another affordance: The slide number has a diagonal line through it to show the slide is hidden. Who knew? - Stephen Mack
Stephen, you're not going crazy. If I remember correctly, back in previous versions if you right clicked on a hidden slide, it would say "Unhide Slide". Which makes sense. This? Not so much. - Jonathan Disher
Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
There seem to be an increasing number of tv shows built around the theme of implanting artificial intelligence into humans, rendering them instantly capable of superhuman mental and physical feats. I' just like to point out that most physical skills beyond brute force rely significantly on muscle memory and development of...
enhanced synaptic connections with the muscles involved. Thank you for listening. - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
plus I'd think that annoying voice in your head second guessing your every move would make it hard to even walk.... ;) - WarLord
What are the political views of the brain doped people like? - Eivind
Technocratic? - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
Andrew C (✔)
Deep Bore Tunnel ongoing disaster update, or why no new transportation megaprojects should ever be designed for cars only, in one chart - Lawyers, Guns & Money : Lawyers, Guns & Money - http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2014...
"I was a bit surprised to get some pushback on the notion that deep bore tunnel project in Seattle was a terrible idea in my previous post on the subject. I think I can see where it comes from psychologically-the viaduct, while ugly and extremely unsafe in an area of seismic activity, is an very efficient and useful piece of infrastructure. Seattle traffic is pretty bad, and the idea of taking something so big and important out of the picture without replacing it with something that's also big and important is understandably alarming." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
"but the tunnel was the worst option from a strict cost/benefit analysis of all the possibilities for what should be a profoundly obvious reason: a majority of current viaduct users use it to get in or out of downtown, not to get through it quickly, and the tunnel is too deep to include any downtown exits. Astonishingly, they decided to knowingly replace an important piece of infrastructure with the one option that had no utility for a majority of users of the viaduct." - Andrew C (✔)
"The USDOT has been overestimating future vehicle miles traveled for a long time now. And this trend is continuing: they overestimated 2013 vehicle miles traveled by 11%. In 2012. WSDOT is not appreciably different than USDOT on this issue; their long-range forecasts for 2008 ended up overestimating VMT by well over standard deviation (see pg 9 here) but despite that error, their 2010... more... - Andrew C (✔)
Victor Ganata
It's really amazing how much mucus can come out of someone's head.
Yeah, aside from death and taxes it seems to be another thing that's inevitable. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I KNOW! - MoTO Moca Blend from Android
if I weren't drowning in my own mucus, I'd lol. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Try going for a long run in single-digit temps and then watch what happens when you get back into the warmth of your home base. Your best option is to step back outside to a discreet location and use the time-tested "runners blow" technique. Otherwise you'll go through at least one box of tissues (toilet tissue, which is the preferred dual-purpose emergency paper product carried by many runners.) #SkirtingPoopingIssuesOnceAgain! - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
I am always amazed by just how big a baby's boogers can be. HOW CAN THEY BREATHE?! - Melly
BabyBoogersBabyBoogersBabyBoogersBOOM! I'm thinking this would be an excellent substitute for Patty Cake Patty Cake. (I just threw the BOOM in there for a climactic ending.) - Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
holly #ravingfangirl
My night beats yours.
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Even sideways. - holly #ravingfangirl from iPhone
Jealous! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
HOW HAVE I NEVER MET THAT MAN? AAARGH SO WRONG. - jambina
I hope y'all are having fun! - Katy S
Well, yes. It does. - laura x from iPhone
What jambina said -- and he lives right across town from me. - Julian
MY MAIN MAN, DERRICK BABBIT. - Akiva
THOSE CHEEKS! Love you, D! - LB: Ratchet Bear from Android
Holly's camera, go home you're drunk. - ♫Jorge Covert, Trainer♫ from FFHound!
Well, yes. Yes it does. - Jim is digging out.
Laura x owes me a beer! - Jim is digging out.
No, Jim, you owe ME a beer. Or we both owe each other one. - laura x from iPhone
LOL, OH HAI. - Derrick
GAH! It is almost worth becoming a librarian to hang around with you people, - Friar Will
Hanging out with cool people is why I became a librarian. - Zamms
LB: Ratchet Bear
Victor Ganata
On my evening walk around the hood, I saw two houses with their Christmas lights still up #stalwarts #CandlemasOrBust
We tell each other Merry Christmas whenever we see this. :D - Pixie
We dismantled our tree tonight (although we haven't had the lights on in weeks). - LB: Ratchet Bear from Android
I was bummed ours came down so soon but the consolation prize is the xmas lights on my mom's hibiscus in case we get any frost nights (fat chance). - Spidra Webster
Spidra Webster
Bill would require paid sick leave | John and Ken - http://www.kfiam640.com/pages...
Bill would require paid sick leave | John and Ken
"According to the UT San Diego, Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzales has introduced AB 1522, legislation that would mandate all businesses in California to provide paid sick time off for its employees. The business community is strongly opposed to the new measure as it would drive up costs and maybe keep them from hiring more employees. Here are some of the major provisions of AB 1522: • Employees could earn up to 24 hours of leave a year. • Employees working in California for seven or more days per year are eligible. • Sick leave would be accrued at one hour for every 30 hours worked. • Sick days could be used to care for an ill family member or for leave related to domestic violence or sexual assault. • Employees covered by collective bargaining are exempt. • A share of the sick leave may be carried over into the next year, overruling some “use it or lose it” company policies. • Employers would not be required to pay for accumulated sick leave when a worker leaves the company. Read more at the UT San Diego" - Spidra Webster from Bookmarklet
Laura Norvig
If someone leaves a message on your work voice mail, but doesn't bother to say what it's about, do you even bother to call them back? *can't be bothered*.
Depends on who it is? - Katy S
Nobody I've ever heard of. And I get various old 800 numbers forwarded to me so I'm pretty sure it's about a project we aren't funded for any more. - Laura Norvig
It's just weird. When I leave someone a voice mail, I state the general nature of why I called. I don't just say, "This is Laura, call me at 123456." - Laura Norvig
That's how we were trained to use voice mail in 1989: leave an actual message. My father used to drive me crazy with urgent call-me messages that turned out to be about an article he'd read. Come to think of it, even after the innanet came along, he never learned to send me links ... - Mary B: #TeamMonique
With all the privacy laws now, detailed messages are not allowed from our facilities. I may state my name and location but not much more. - Janet from FFHound!
I don't even check my work voicemail - COMPLICATED MR. NOODLE from YouFeed
Anne Bouey
If you watch American Horror Story tonight, you'll see my daughter Kristin (Andi) Norris as Emma Roberts' stunt double. :)
Awesome! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Really? That's cool! - Soup in a TARDIS
That's pretty neat! :) - Jenny H. from Android
Sweet! She's so awesome. - joey
Well, that was painful to watch her being tossed around! - Anne Bouey
I watched it via Amazon Video tonight - that scene was intense. Does your daughter often do stunt double work for Emma? - Corinne L
Wow Anne! - Janet from FFHound!
Corrine, that was her first time. - Anne Bouey
Victor Ganata
How easy would it be for an Evil Genius to successfully con a bunch of rich old dudes into believing he really perfected the Singularity and get them to effectively turn over their wealth to him? But instead of actual uploads living in the Cloud, they're really just high-fidelity bots good enough to fool their relatives and the courts.
Are you asking for a friend? :) - Eivind
Yeah…. For a friend. :D - Victor Ganata
It worked for the Buddhists :) http://books.google.ca/books... - Ken Morley
Andrew C (✔)
I actually don't "play hard". We're talking about personal time, right? I'm happy to relax. Goodness, slow down for a minute.
Chris Topher
It amazes me that people blame the government/the President when they lose insurance due to the ACA. They should be blaming the businesses who drop people for having a shitty business model.
Victor Ganata
I think this is what they really mean when they say it's a trust economy. It's not some bullshit thing like a Klout score or something. It means that the only way you can get people to believe you is if they trust you, and it's no longer enough to just assert the privileges you think should be accorded to your stature. You have to earn trust.
One problem arises when people trust someone for the wrong reasons. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, but blind faith in experts hardly alleviates that problem. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, that's still the same problem, heh. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Andrew C (✔)
RT @stephenking: Memo to Justin Bieber: For the young celeb, life is a banquet of free food. What they don't tell you is that you are often the last course.
Andrew C (✔)
I got one of my nicer pens in a mass layoff: "sign this form." It's a nice pen. Still, if it were up to me, I woulda chosen the job.
Start a company making pens with morale-boosting text for the recently-disemployed. Then get Cristo to put linux on 'em. - Steel Penguin Slippy
Andrew C (✔)
"So much for global warming, huh?" "*sigh* This used to happen all the time." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
Wow, that graph. I remember all those winters - the mild ones in 1980 and '83, the brutal ones in '77 (senior year of HS), '78 (freshman year in college, but we had the Blizzard in Providence), and '82, with its own blizzard. And I hope the future - where ice in STL is rare - comes pretty soon. I'm getting spoiled out here! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Victor Ganata
When you think about it, regime change via national election is probably a lot more pleasant than regime change by assassination and factional warfare. Probably keeps things a lot more stable, too.
Yeah, but think of the film makers... - Pete
National elections involve less bloodshed but more whinging. - John (bird whisperer)
"It was a time of peace. It was a time of structured debate in a multicameral assembly. It was a time of orderly transition. In theaters soon... Pundits of the Plains" - Pete
I still can't get over the "Democracy is bad for you" argument. To paraphrase Churchill, it might be bad, but things could be a lot worse. - Victor Ganata
Like, I think I'd take politicians and pundits and partisans screaming at and saying mean things to each other over roving bands of trained killers massacring everyone who isn't on their side. - Victor Ganata
Worst. Reboot. Of Mad Max. Ever. - Pete
Two men enter. Two men leave with a negotiated agreement. :) - Victor Ganata
All we wanted was beneath the capitol dome. - Pete
We don't need another Nero - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Hah! - Victor Ganata
Higlet wins :) - Pete
Mark H
You won’t believe why the Victoria Line is currently suspended - http://usvsth3m.com/post...
You won’t believe why the Victoria Line is currently suspended
You won’t believe why the Victoria Line is currently suspended
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"The civil engineering team has poured fast-setting concrete into the Victoria Line signalling equipment room and shut everything down [...] There’s an estimated 3 rows of relay equipment submerged in the concrete at this stage." - Mark H from Bookmarklet
Uhh... I assume that was an accident? Or a really bad mistake? - ronin
Whaaaaaa... - Spidra Webster
Just a little cement. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Dang, that's gonna take some rewiring...with a pneumatic hammer. - Steel Penguin Slippy
Shame the site doesn't give any info on how or why cement got poured into the switchroom. - Steel Penguin Slippy
Ow. - Betsy
Slippy: I'm guessing there was a hole somewhere. https://twitter.com/Network... - Mark H
Indeed. One wonders how long it took someone to notice the pad they were pouring wasn't filling, or even if they did before someone came running over screaming "You've shorted out the bloody tube!" - Steel Penguin Slippy
RT ‏@SnoozeInBrief Transport for London has cemented its reputation. It's set for rush hour. It's offering concrete solutions. It's running a solid service. - Spidra Webster
That tweet, Spidra. lol! - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Huh... a recent tweet from Sara Batts ‏@DrBattyTowers "Things I learnt as a librarian: The Concrete Society @ukConcrete had an emergency squad which you could call on if a pour went wrong" https://twitter.com/DrBatty... - Joe - Systems Analyst
Pretty fast clean up - https://twitter.com/BBCTomE... - Mark H
Wow, they must have gotten to it before it set. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Wow. That's fast. - Betsy
They added sugar to it! Keeps the stuff from setting. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science... - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Nice of them to put letters on the wall so we can compare the two photos and see just how deep the concrete was. That's a lot of concrete. - Betsy
Thank heaven for the emergency pump squad. I would NOT want to be the guy to chip it all out by hand. - Steel Penguin Slippy from Android
Victor Ganata
The Inefficiency of Inequality - Why America's staggering wealth disparity is an economic problem -- not just a moral one - Foreign Policy http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...
"To a great degree, access to opportunity in the United States depends on wealth." — that's the part of the Horatio Alger myth they never really talk about. If you don't have some fabulously wealthy benefactor helping you out of the gutter, you're probably screwed. - Victor Ganata
"…discrimination based on wealth is still a powerful force. It opens doors, especially for people who may not boast the strongest talents or work ethic." Country club affirmative action :) - Victor Ganata
"Their exclusion of a whole swath of society because of something other than human potential automatically creates scope for inefficient allocation." - Victor Ganata
"The fact that money affects access to these opportunities, even in part, implies some seats in Congress and Ivy League lecture halls would have been used more productively by poorer people of greater gifts." - Victor Ganata
"If you believe that poor people are poor because they are stupid or lazy -- and that their children probably will be as well -- then the issue of inefficient allocation disappears. But if you think that a smart and hardworking child could be born into a poor household, then inefficient allocation is a serious problem. Solving it would enhance economic growth and boost the value of American assets." - Victor Ganata
One of the arguments for capitalism is that it unlocks wealth for investment which benefits everyone. That doesn't seem to be the case in practice. - Todd Hoff
Yeah, there doesn't seem to be much that really trickles down these days. - Victor Ganata
Mary Carmen
OMG, who cares?????? #beibergate
The Beleibers, obviously. :D - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not a big issue but it does highlight some ugly truths about society. The Teflon coating of the rich and the almost god like devotion young fans give him (including downplaying the seriousness of DUI). It doesn't require 24 hour coverage, but it's a yardstick in societal values - Johnny from iPhone
Unfortunately he's a local boy to my area, so not only did we see coverage of his misbehaving, but person on the street interviews with locals who are are so disappointed in him - DJF from Android
Yeah, he's not being very Canadian. - Holly's favorite Anna
he was exported for a reason. - jambina
Victor Ganata
You can't dislodge an accepted hypothesis until you have an alternate hypothesis that explains both the things that the accepted hypothesis explains and things that the accepted hypothesis can't explain.
This is why even scientists didn't take Copernicus seriously when he came out with De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, because his system couldn't explain anything. Kepler had to fix his model so that it actually made useful predictions. - Victor Ganata
This is also why denialism is generally pointless. You'll never convince anyone they're wrong until you have a better explanation. - Victor Ganata
The deniers would probably argue that their alternative is the null hypothesis. The fact that the data doesn't support it isn't their problem ;-) - DJF from Android
But for some people, you can have all the data in the world (like evolution), and they won't believe it. - Joe - Systems Analyst
If only better was a purely factual issue. - Todd Hoff
Heh, the thing is, null hypotheses are only useful in statistical testing. Data is always going to be subject to interpretation, but I think the key to successful models is the explanatory power. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I guess it's not really about "better", though. It's about whether the model can adequately answer the question "Why?" Denialism is ultimately just about saying "No, you're wrong!" and doesn't explain anything. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Science never answers why. Why is anything the way it is? Science just describes what is. - Todd Hoff
Models do explain why, though. So long as causality is a thing, it is possible to answer the question "Why?" at least for proximal causes. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
The very first step in the scientific method is observation if observations don't fit models the hypothesis eventually falsifies itself. - Eric Logan
You can't start collecting data until you have a hypothesis to test. The textbook scientific method isn't really how science typically proceeds. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Like, we know both quantum mechanics and general relativity fail to make useful predictions in certain circumstances, so we know, ultimately, that they're not really right, but since there isn't anything that explains what happens in those circumstances and also explains what we already know, they're still the accepted models. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Quantum theory has for most of it's existence been hypothetical projections of unobservable phenomena. Much of the work that is being done in the field is an attempt to confirm these with actual observations. - Eric Logan
Quantum mechanics underlies how to build nuclear weapons and CPUs, so it definitely has readily observable components. Maybe you're thinking of superstring theory? - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Quantum mechanics involves virtual particles that are well modeled and mathematically necessary, but have never actually been observed some of these particles violate the laws of classical physics. Since the models work they are still used. - Eric Logan
The very first thing they taught us in my college chemistry class was the quantum mechanical model of the atom. It's the reason for the layout of the periodic table of elements, the underlying basis of the existence of electron shells, which are the underlying basis of all of chemistry, really. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Even in the periodic table though there where gaps of substances that mathematically existed, but had not yet been observed. As technology progressed we named and observed new predicted elements including Mendelevium whose namesake brought us the chart. - Eric Logan
Sure, the periodic table was originally arranged from empirical observations, but quantum mechanics is what explains the underlying principles that put the elements in that particular order. With the understanding of nuclear chemistry, it's not so much about serendipitously discovering new elements in nature as it is synthesizing new elements using particle accelerators. Quantum mechanics is what makes modern day alchemical transmutation possible :D - Victor Ganata
It still violates so called laws of physics though, but the models work so we continue to use it because it's the best model we have presently even though it is acknowledged as incomplete. It is accurate in practice. - Eric Logan
How does it violate the laws of physics? Quantum mechanics *are* laws of physics. The major perceived flaws seem more conceptual issues rather than a case of giving totally wrong predictions. One, there doesn't seem to be an underlying principle to the fine-tuned values of the 18 parameters that define the standard model of QM, which is more of an elegance argument than anything. Two, there's no consistent way to quantize General Relativity that doesn't give you crazy answers in certain circumstances. - Victor Ganata
But as far as experimental data, goes, they match the predictions of the standard model of QM to 5 standard deviations. - Victor Ganata
Maybe I should clarify and say that it violates our classical understanding of the laws of physics. Superposition, entanglement, etc. I think at some point we reconcile the disparities, but presently we really don't understand how it works we just know that it does in fact work. - Eric Logan
Bose - Einstein condensates as a state of matter was predicted 70 years before it was actually observed in a laboratory. They are still working to reconcile the conundrum. Ultrarelativistic Bose-Einstein Gas on Lorentz Symmetry Violation. http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.4604 - Eric Logan
Reconcile with what, though? Sure, Bose-Einstein condensates are more complicated than Bose and Einstein predicted, but I don't think the experimental data actually breaks any existing models. The models explaining that specific behavior of matter just haven't been well explicated yet. - Victor Ganata
It violates the second law of thermodynamics as we understand it if it can be replicated at classical scale and temperature. It can't presently, but we don't understand why and certainly quantum mechanics are operating above scales that we currently can measure. We have demonstrated Superposition at higher scales using Photons recently. - Eric Logan
Hmm. I'm not sure how Bose-Einstein condensates actually break the 2nd law. You need to provide energy to keep matter in that state, so the high degree of order isn't really a problem. - Victor Ganata
The working hypothesis is that gravity makes the universe classical. If quantum superposition is not inherently random then the second law of thermodynamics can be theoretically violated. Gravity Makes the Universe Classical. http://physics.aps.org/article... - Eric Logan
I guess it's just another way to describe quantum decoherence, but superpositions don't necessarily violate the 2nd Law. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Observable bosonic superposition is actually not forbidden (hence, Bose-Einstein condensates) but fermionic superpositions would violate the Pauli exclusion principle, and I don't think anyone has ever observed fermions in such a state. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
That's also just one example of an apparent paradox. There are many. Physicists close two loopholes while violating local realism. http://phys.org/news... - Eric Logan
I disagree that one has to have a hypothesis before collecting data, or are you only talking about physics? For instance, penicillin was "discovered" and proven effective by accident. I don't think it's wise, for example, to come up with a hypothesis that something is true and then collect data trying to prove the hypothesis. Much better, in my opinion, to collect data and then come up with a hypothesis that fits the facts. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you don't have a hypothesis then you can't properly design an experimental group and a control group. You won't have good samples. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
If you just collect a bunch of data randomly then craft a hypothesis, that's called going on a fishing expedition, and it's why Big Data evangelism is freaky. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
See: data dredging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - this is not how real science generally works now, but I guess it might be once everyone drinks the Big Data Kool-Aid. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
"Circumventing the traditional scientific approach by conducting an experiment without a hypothesis can lead to premature conclusions." - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Entanglement just means quantum mechanics is right and Newtonian physics was incomplete, though. We're well past the point where human intuition can discern the shape of reality. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
If you think about it, Newton's Law of Gravity actually *did* rely on "spooky action at a distance" though. There was no light speed limit to worry about. And it didn't actually explain how gravity worked. Wouldn't it be funny if you could put the Theory of Everything together by assuming gravitons aren't constrained by the speed of light and/or are entangled? - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Experimentation is not "collecting data", in my opinion. Experimentation is "creating data". You can do experiments to prove some things, but not others. In my opinion, there are plenty of sciences, particularly those where you are studying things that already exist (geology and climatology come to mind), where you need to collect data before you have a chance of figuring out what's what. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Another example is collecting rock samples from the moon, Mars, etc. You have to collect the samples and analyze them before you can make any sort of determination of what the moon and Mars are made of. Asking questions can steer priorities, such as is there water on Mars or on the moon, but you don't need to do that to collect data. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Another example would be a lot of the basic research done on gorillas in the wild. They had to first observe the animals and collect data before they could really create any hypotheses about how they functioned as a group. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
As far as I know, a lot of the basic science on radiation, x-rays, etc. were based on "I wonder what this does", not "I think this does X therefore I'm going to experiment to see if it does X". - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I have to say that I'm surprised that you, of all people, would state a generalization such as this. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ask any real scientist, Alex. This is fairly basic. All the experiments NASA is having Curiosity do are based on hypotheses. They're just not randomly going out there to try and see if anything interesting happens - Victor Ganata
There's a hierarchy of evidence and experimental data is superior to observational data. This is not even really up for debate, to be honest. It's just conventional wisdom. - Victor Ganata
If you don't know what you're looking for, how are you going to test for it? Even observational studies have hypotheses. Otherwise its called post-hoc analysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and no one really trusts those types of conclusions. At best, they'll use them to formulate better a priori hypotheses and better experiments. - Victor Ganata
Sorry, but you made a gross generalization. You didn't say "the best way", you flat out said that you can't start collecting data without first having a hypothesis. This is, as all generalities are, untrue and I've given examples why, it isn't always true. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And with basic science, before you know enough about something to make a hypothesis, you have to collect data and observe to even begin to develop hypotheses. For example, there are species of animal that we have so little data on because they haven't come into contact with humans historically. There's just no way that you could make a hypothesis about their mating patterns, social... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And your generalization leaves no room for serendipity. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you don't explicate your hypotheses, then your observations will be biased by implicit assumptions. People don't collect data randomly. This is not to say you can't formulate hypotheses from serendipitous events. A lot of theories started out as flashes of insight. But they had to be tested. - Victor Ganata
A hypothesis *is* just a guess, Alex. A guess that can be proven or disproven. - Victor Ganata
You can collect all the data you want without explicating a hypothesis, but it's not science, and your data collection will always be biased by implicit assumptions. - Victor Ganata
I went off of the Wikipedia definition. That it's a potential explanation for observed phenomena. I think a significant body of science is out there looking for new phenomena that have never before been observed. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm not sure how collecting weather data at specific intervals for no other purpose than to collect weather data can be biased by implicit assumptions, other than perhaps the assumption that weather happens. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And many a scientist has biased their data collections to prove their hypothesis as well. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
There are a hell of a lot of implicit assumptions that affect the measurements from a weather station, though. Geographic location, land-based vs. sea-based, urban vs. rural, the types of measuring devices you use. How many stations you need to get enough samples. How often you need to sample. Your hypothesis is going to guide all these choices, so you have to explicate why you did what you did. - Victor Ganata
The thing is, if you make your hypothesis explicit instead of hiding your assumptions and biases, then people will know you're at least trying to work in good faith, even though it's impossible to eliminate or compensate for all assumptions and biases. - Victor Ganata
I mean, looking for new phenomenon that way makes no sense. You can't just trek out into the middle of nowhere, plant your gear to measure 60,000 different variables, and then hope something interesting is going to happen. You use existing theories and models to make a prediction. Then you have to construct a test to see if that prediction is true or not. You don't have 15 billion years to sift through all sorts of randomness. - Victor Ganata
Just the choice of what you measure or observe implies some assumption or bias, so I guess it's more correct to say that all data sets are always based on hypotheses, it's just that some data collectors are less than honest about what those assumptions or biases are than others. - Victor Ganata
If hypothesis could be something like "Hey, there's a part of this jungle here that's never been explored by humans, as far as we know, I'm sure we could find interesting things there." Then yeah, that's how a lot of science gets done. Of course, in general, as we've been building up more and more findings/knowledge/data, it's a lot less likely to have unknown phenomena, and you are much more likely to be finding answers to questions raised by the last experiments, then yeah, what you say works best. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
However, much of the foundational knowledge that we've built up certainly didn't happen that way. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I just think it's interesting that you're basically talking dogma here. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
And a lot of knowledge *not* tested that way turned out to be wrong. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Exploration and discovery are hardly the same thing as science, although I don't dispute that exploration and discovery can inspire the formulation of testable ideas. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Wikipedia says what I'm trying to say better than I did "The overall process involves making conjectures (hypotheses), deriving predictions from them as logical consequences, and then carrying out experiments based on those predictions to determine whether the original conjecture was correct.[16] There are difficulties in a formulaic statement of method, however. Though the scientific... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's not necessarily dogma, it's just how studies tend to be structured. - Victor Ganata
Fair enough. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Sure, there are a lot of steps before the actual formulation of a testable premise which might involve data collection. It's trial and error. Even before the hypothesis, you need to conceptualize a model. The hypothesis is the probe to test that model. - Victor Ganata
But my main point is that there's a reason why people look askance at data dredging, and why I think Big Data evangelists are scary. - Victor Ganata
Every observation has a context. If you don't acknowledge that context (and its limitations) then you're misleading people. - Victor Ganata
SCIENCE. - Mo Kargas
I'm not exactly sure I get the problem with big data. At that point, the bias isn't in the data collection, in my opinion, but rather with what you do with it. That you can use such systems to accurately track what people actually spend money on, for instance, will allow economists to build better models for markets. Of course, the flipside is that having all of that data in aggregation is inherently dangerous. See Target's recent problems with hackers as evidence of this. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
One other thing is that in a lot of cases, the data has been collected already. For instance, we are collecting a lot of data from Hubble and other similar instruments, in many cases for particular experiments, but that data can be mined for secondary observations as well. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
See also: data dredging. If you look for correlations, you're going to find them. It doesn't mean they're real. - Victor Ganata
Like I said, people measure things for a reason, consciously or not. It's better if you know exactly why you're measuring something. If you're using a sample that was obtained for some other purpose than yours, you *can* renormalize it and do all sorts of statistical manipulations, but the bottom line is that it might not be a good sample for you to test your hypothesis against. - Victor Ganata
Yep, but in many cases, you might not have a choice but to use previously collected data. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL, this is pretty much what you are talking about, I think. https://www.facebook.com/notes... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well, you can use the previously collected data to form a hypothesis, but you still have to run your own experiments. No one is going to trust you if you just use somebody else's data that was collected for some other purpose. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, that Princeton paper is a more obvious case, but the less obvious cases are the ones that screw lots of people over. - Victor Ganata
I'm also thinking that a hypothesis need not be very specific. For instance, a study taken to prove the hypothesis that 'out of the various methods of drying hands after washing them that there is one method that reduces bacteria contamination on the hands more than the others' should be enough to conduct a valid study. In my opinion, to favor one method over another in the hypothesis... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well, that's really a review article, not a study, so caveat lector. - Victor Ganata
"NASA scientists intend to lower temperatures in the lab to 100-pico-Kelvin, or just “one ten billionth of a degree above absolute zero,” the temperature at which it is theorized, that thermal activity of all atoms ceases. The researchers theorize that when objects are exposed to the extreme cold temperatures in the Cold Atom Lab, new forms of matter will be created as the notion of... more... - Eric Logan
Bluesun 2600
The Rock ’n’ Roll Casualty Who Became a War Hero - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2013...
The Rock ’n’ Roll Casualty Who Became a War Hero - NYTimes.com
The Rock ’n’ Roll Casualty Who Became a War Hero - NYTimes.com
The Rock ’n’ Roll Casualty Who Became a War Hero - NYTimes.com
"I asked if he ever talked about it. Jason shook his head no. Did they find out anyway? “Always.” The first time was at Fort Benning in 1994, in the middle of the hell of basic training. The ex-cop recruits in boot camp with him said that prisoners had more freedom than they did. There were guys who faked suicide attempts to get out of basic. But Everman never had any doubts. “I was 100 percent,” he told me. “If I wasn’t, there was no way I’d get through it.” He had three drill sergeants, two of whom were sadists. Thank God it was the easygoing one who saw it. He was reading a magazine, when he slowly looked up and stared at Everman. Then the sergeant walked over, pointing to a page in the magazine. “Is this you?” It was a photo of the biggest band in the world, Nirvana. Kurt Cobain had just killed himself, and this was a story about his suicide. Next to Cobain was the band’s onetime second guitarist. A guy with long, strawberry blond curls. “Is this you?” Everman exhaled. “Yes, Drill... more... - Bluesun 2600 from Bookmarklet
Andy Bakun
RT @edbott: HP's secret handshake is the facepalm.
Spidra Webster
Mystery of stolen grapefruit gives a huge boost to new Houston charity - Houston Chronicle - http://www.chron.com/neighbo...
Mystery of stolen grapefruit gives a huge boost to new Houston charity - Houston Chronicle
"The mystery theft of dozens of grapefruit from a family's tree has led to a huge boost for a new Houston charity. Members of FruitShare Houston go around the city's neighborhoods looking for unmistakable low-hanging fruit and bag it for the needy. Except this one time they got the wrong house. "Our neighbor came running over, banging on the door saying she'd just seen someone pull up and systematically pick all our grapefruit," said Heights resident Elena Coates, "We were devastated, it takes a year to ripen and we had just been planning to pick it ourselves." Kent Keith and his wife, Karen Gordon, founders of FruitShare, realized their mistake a few days later when they were double checking their notes. "We thought, oh my gosh, we stole all their fruit," said Karen. They intended to pick from a house across the street. "They came to our door one Sunday," said Elena, "Kent said, 'I'm the guy who stole all your fruit.'" Elena and her husband, Bruce Wilcoxon, were relieved to know... more... - Spidra Webster from Bookmarklet
Andrew C (✔)
I'm from the Pacific Northwest and named "Andrew" so, would I qualify for the rap nickname "Drizzle C"?
I think the reverse would be better. - Anika
Victor Ganata
Man shall not live on bread and circuses alone….
What sort of commie entitlement comment is that? - Eivind
Do you think they'll have gladiatorial games in Communist Utopia? - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Hunger Games, sure. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I suspect Socialist Man will not be inclined to fight. But what do I know, maybe a gladiatorial co-op or two will pop up making blood sports their contribution to the society? - Eivind
"I'm Spartacist!" - Pete
Man, circus bread sounds kinda good right about now. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Wait, so circus bread *isn't* a euphemism for elephant poop? - Victor Ganata
Pete wins. - Spidra Webster
I thought Micah won! - Stephen Mack
When Pete wins, we all win. So yeah, I win. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
yah second that when Pete wins, we all win ! :)- one for all , all for one .. LOL - Peter Dawson
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