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Scoble, Alex Scoble
Gamer, home theater enthusiast, IT Security professional with CISSP, lover of cats, married to the always wonderful and compassionate (and passionate) Cassie.
Apparently Microsoft can't count. The Xbox One is the THIRD generation of Xbox. LOL
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"One" as in the "One Ring to rule them all." Enjoy being bound in the dark etc, found, etc.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Well, consider that the iPhone went from the 1st generation to the 3G and the iPad went from 2 to "New", and that Mac OS has been stuck at version 10 for more than a decade, and it's clear that innumeracy is rampant in the tech sector :)
- Victor Ganata
They were to call it the Last One, but the marketing team nixed that.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I am surprised it's not XBox Ultimate Edition, to be honest.
- Victor Ganata
It looks like it's about as big as the old ones, and so. many. ports. I wonder how much longer this antiquated form factor will hang on.
- Tinfoil 2.0
To get smaller, they'd probably need to invent a revolutionary, new cooling system, or figure out how to make GPUs that don't generate oven-like temperatures. Or try to force people to accept that you really don't need that many polygons.
- Victor Ganata
They said it'd be quiet, which further constrains cooling.
- Andrew C (✓)
from Android
They'd also probably have to do away with the optical drive, which would then probably reintroduce the issue of requiring an always-on Internet connection (which they've confirmed is not required with the XboxOne - it will require an Internet connection, but will still work if the net connection is out-of-commission for a while)
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
Also sounds like they didn't bother with backwards compatibility for DVD based Xbox 360 games.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Or online games you have purchased
- Shevonne
Yeah, Shevonne, I think you are right, but I also think that with the online stuff they can possibly translate ownership from old platform to new for any online titles that get rewritten. Not that they will do this, just that it's possible.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I was thinking that it could be possible as well, but it seems due to the new hardware architecture...maybe the online games were created using the old one so it won't transfer? Someone know?
- Shevonne
I assume that the PS4 will have the same issue.
- Shevonne
They could always recompile the old games if a software emulation system isn't possible. But it's still noticeable how they didn't even mention it. Used to be backwards compatibility was a key feature (at least at console launches), or if it was left out, they at least had to address it.
- Andrew C (✓)
Yeah, I'm certain Microsoft (and Sony) would rather that developers port their games to the new platform.
- Victor Ganata
Yep, and it would still be possible for Microsoft to swing the licenses to the ports. Unfortunately, for the bean counters, there's little financial reason to do so. The number of sales that good will creates is much harder to count.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
IMHO cross compiling always has, and always will, suck big time
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
It's got to be better than emulation, though, performance wise, even if the XBox One is way more powerful than the XBox 360.
- Victor Ganata
That depends on the game, but yes, in general that's true, Victor. Jeff, I believe that a lot of modern games are developed chiefly for one console (I think EA mostly develops first for PS3) and then ported to the Xbox. It seems to work well.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
should be interesting to watch now that both platforms will be x86 based, instead of totally different core architectures
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
These days they're usually not ported after the fact, they're usually developed on the dev team's own abstraction layer (or sometimes licensed middleware) over PS3 and 360.
- Andrew C (✓)
Yeah, I know that Square Enix uses Crystal Tools to develop games for PS3, XBox 360, Windows, and the Wii.
- Victor Ganata
Yes, Sony is doing the same thing with PS4. Regarding MS transferring the licenses, if Windows Phone 7-> Windows Phone 8 is any indication, some games will, but others won't (I was able to download new version of Fruit Ninja when I switched phones, but had to buy new copies of my Angry Birds games)
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
One red ring to rule them all. (a correction to the first comment) I wonder how they will compare to the original XBox, as web servers.
- April Russo
Considering that I don't buy game systems until they've been on the market for at least a year, it's hard for me to get all that excited about these new consoles. Let's see what they do for games after a year and then we'll talk.
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I feel more or less the same. I'm also so far behind on the games I currently own that it will be a while before I feel like I need to get something new.
- Jennifer Dittrich
This is a rule I won't break after years of experience buying game systems too soon. No point in throwing away money on a system or systems that are poorly supported.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, Jennifer, I feel you on that.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I watched one of my roommates deal with the endless RRoD, so I'm a bit shy on initial console purchases as well. Truthfully, most first generation complex technology.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Yeah, I feel like I just got my PS3. I usually don't upgrade until there's a game that I feel like I have to have, and those are really few and far between these days.
- Victor Ganata
I totally understand your position, but with our Xbox (and most likely with the Xbox One) we use it much, much more for the other entertainment than we do for games. Our wii is the game console for us (Nintendo's games are fun for us, only a handful of Xbox games are - and those are mostly XBA games).
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
At least I recognize my biases. Thinking that ads are a horrible way to make money because they very rarely, if ever, work on me? Bias. Which of course leads to whether Flickr's new biz model will work or not. If they can make the ad based model work, the new free perks are genius.
If they can't and they just pissed off most of their paying customers, well there's always all that revenue from Tumblr to fall back on. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's probably unwise of me to say, but I have pretty much learned to unsee ads. Someone almost has to point out that they are there for me to realize it.
- MiniMage
This Flickr business is confusing to say the least. Also makes me question Marissa Mayer's ability to make Yahoo successful again.
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You mean the timing of that and tumblr? Or something about flickr specifically?
- Brian Johns
I don't think they've done a very good job of communicating about all of the changes.
- Katy S
The fact that they are getting rid of Pro accounts and the pricing structure of the new accounts. Not to mention the fact that they still don't have an iPad app.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And yeah, Tumblr users should view the purchase of that service through the lens of what Yahoo is doing to Flickr.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Wait - they're getting rid of Pro accounts? I totally missed that.
- Brian Johns
Are you talking about an app that's *only* for iPad? Because they have an iOS app. http://www.google.com/url...
- Spidra Webster
Yes, an app specifically for the iPad. The iPhone app is horrible on an iPad.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I would have thought that Thomas Hawk would have been negative about the changes, but he loves them http://thomashawk.com/2013...
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I don't think they are getting rid of pro accounts, but I'm hardly qualified to speak.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
They're getting rid of it but current Pro acct people who opt to be grandfathered in at $25 a year, will be.
- Spidra Webster
$50/yr to get rid of ads is a bit tough to take but I guess they are giving you 1TB of space for free. Majority of users won't come close to maxing that out I'd think. It would've been nice if they had kept it at the old Pro price though.
- ronin
Yeah, as I said on Facebook "We'll see how I feel about this tomorrow, but when compared to the competition, this seems like a step back to me as a paying member. So perhaps there's a bias there as this appears to be good for free members of Flickr, but not so good for new customers who want to pay for increased service."
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
How to make more money. Label your product "For Migraines". Excedrin charges $2 more per bottle of their Migraine pain relief pills vs their "Extra Strength" pills even though they are the EXACT SAME active ingredients and strength.
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My understanding was that the large difference was in the dosing directions - Excedrine MIgraine says explicitly that you're not supposed to take more than one dose in a 24 hour period of time (mostly so people see a physician if they need to.) Not that people often read the directions.
- Jennifer Dittrich
And, of course, money money money money money.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Lots of Brands do that. You have to market to the lowest common idiot denominator.
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
from iPhone
Active ingredients doesn't equal same product. We sell two products with the same active ingredients but one has a surfactant which helps with leaf stick. The other has one the accelerates the penetration. That's not registered cause its not part of the Mode Of Action. The migraine version may have other ingredients not required for listing that could effect translocation
- Johnny
from iPhone
Johnny, medications, at least in the US, are required to list all ingredients and active ingredients especially. If an ingredient has anything to do with the efficacy of a medication it needs to be listed. Since all of the ingredients are the same they are charging more money for the same medication until proven otherwise.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Does one have caffeine and one not?
- Headless Gnad Kicker
Both have caffeine and both are a mix of aspirin and acetaminophen.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I guess they're hoping people with migraines will read the product name and not the ingredient list and happily pay the extra $2!
- Headless Gnad Kicker
In general, take a product and make it sound especially for your situation. It makes you feel like someone made a product just for your needs, and you pay more. Or make them just slightly different, so that you'll want all of them: a lime squeezer and a lemon squeezer and also an orange squeezer.
- Amit Patel
Sorry, I didn't catch that since I was zesting my Bergamots with my Bergamot zester.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Okay. Marginhancers branding, web dev and photo/video. Now for migraines.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Actually, niche-ing a product does build exclusivity. That tells folks who it's for and will increase sales.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Re Excedrin: if you really have migraines, Excedrin won't begin to help. Assuming you can get scripts, Vicodin generic is about five bucks for a 55-gallon drum. Course, if you REALLY have migraines, Vicodin just makes them worse after a while.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
I vote for Fentanyl lollipops
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
from iPhone
Happy birthday, Penguin!
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happy bday penguin!!!
- Sir Shuping is just sir
Happy happy!
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Happy Birthday!
- Russian Space Lizard
happy bday!
- imabonehead
Happy Birthday Penguin!!! :)
- Lois Loves LB and Mr. B
Keep on dancing, Penguina. All the best!
- esther
Thanks!!
- Lola Bean (Penguin)
Happy birthday! <3
- Jennifer Dittrich
One other thing I learned about git this week: If you are doing development for Linux, don't bother using a Windows git GUI. They will totally mess you up. Just do whatever you have to do using either a Linux workstation or an SSH session. And I say this after trying just about every available Windows GUI for git.
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Just don't use a GUI for git. I used to use MSysGit's GUI, but now it's horribly inefficient, and I don't really use Git enough on Windows anyways.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Yeah, that's what I said. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Let me restate, when doing development for Linux don't use Windows. ;P
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Yeah, that's what I said. :D Although an SSH session from Windows to a Linux terminal is ok.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What's Windows? Oh, you guys are talking about that legacy system that people run from VMWare. But why would you ssh from it when it should be native on your computer?
- Cristo
Cristo, if you step outside of the bay area a lot of people still use Windows PCs and workstations to do their work.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Sad isn't it? It's like those late night videos of starving children in Africa.
- Cristo
I don't think it's sad or not sad. It is what it is. Windows is a perfectly acceptable GUI.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's complete crap. But yes, McDonald's is perfectly acceptable food.
- Cristo
And a lot of enterprise tools require IE. Like Trend Micro OfficeScan.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Good thing that I'm wearing my flame resistant underwear today.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
That's why we have VMWare Fusion, so we can use primitive software tools written by extinct programmers.
- Cristo
You must hate life everytime you use online banking, hehe.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
As in "OMG, I'm using a service built on .NET, the horror! The horror!"
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I can't say that online banking has been the better of my Internet experiences.
- Cristo
QNX is of course TEH BEST EVAR
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
from iPhone
A hard part about rules in art is knowing when to break them. #theruleofthirds
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One thing I noticed about photowalks: They allow you to see what other people are doing, which is good both as inspiration and can guide you to do something different.
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Thorns of the Vine - Portland Test Rose Garden | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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ooohh spiky
- imabonehead
Just watched Dredd. I think it does a better job than the Stallone version in capturing the feel of the comic books although they still didn't get the bikes right. Shouldn't be that hard since the design is right there in the comic strips and super iconic. They probably figured it was too expensive to do a custom bike for 5 minutes of screen time.
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Yellow Rose of Portland - Portland Test Rose Garden | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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First time using a light vignette instead of a dark one. Kind of seemed fitting, but I noticed that you have to be careful as you can very easily overdo it. Whereas, in Lightroom, I can usually go to -30 with a dark vignette, +10 was the most I could go with the light vignette without it making the picture look super funky. In the end, I ended up using +7. Not an effect that I'll use often.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Standing Out - Astoria Oregon | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
A subtle difference with a slight crop and I think it's a bit better now.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
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Standing Out - Astoria Oregon | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Might need to crop this one a little bit, but overall not bad. Took a while to do the mask though. I'm probably putting too much effort into making sure that my masks are perfect.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
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Brick Walkway - Portland Test Rose Garden | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Wet Red Rose | Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Taken today during an obviously wet photowalk at the Portland Test Rose Garden. And yes, water is wet.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Braved the rain and got what I hope are some interesting shots of roses amidst the wet. Was fun though. #PDXPhotoWalk
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I devoted most of this week to learning git in support of managing our Puppet code. Plenty of blog fodder there. (Dynamic environments for the win!)
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i'm doing that at work too.
- imabonehead
Uh oh.
- Cristo
Cristo's a fan of Mercurial, I bet. ;) Not that there's anything wrong with that. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Either that or he's cryptically poo-pooing Puppet because he's more of a Chef fan.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
No, I think git is great, I'm just afraid of you programming. :)
- Cristo
I'm just using it for devops. You don't have to worry about me ever making an iPhone or Android app.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
devops? that's so buzzwordy :P
- imabonehead
Heh, it's my favorite buzzword. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I used that word this week.
- Julian
Liked for git, puppet, and "devops"
- Brian Johns
In other news: OS arguments are extremely boring, tedious and unnecessary.
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Waiting for someone to show up and say that most of my arguments are like that.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And now I have a picture of you wearing a red cowl and jumping out at me at inopportune times saying "NO ONE EVER EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!"
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
By the way, Google Glass will be...TEH...BEST...THING...EVAR!!
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
For taking pictures of Scobles in the shower. ;P
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Python? I prefer Korn shell. ;-)
- Julian
It gets really old when people assume that because you used to say or do things a certain way in the past that that's what you will continue to do despite ample evidence to the contrary.
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agreed, and they get mad when you give them the same business!
- MiniMage
I'd say that Cristo seems to be back to normal now. His trolling skills are back to historic performance levels.
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What monitoring system do you prefer to use for tracking performance metrics?
- Julian
Nagios. It's pretty much the industry standard. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The enterprise edition, or the community edition?
- Julian
I prefer to integrate data from Nagios agents in to Splunk.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I think you must have blocked him for a while. He's been doing pretty well.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
I unblocked him before he was going through a tough time and wasn't trolling at all.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
We chose git as our CVS because most community written Puppet modules are available on github and there's a lot of Puppet documentation and blog posts about using git with Puppet.
After using it for a while now, I'd say that for a lot of what we do, SVN might have been the better choice just because it handles directory structures/permissions better, although I solved that problem through a git hook that does a Chown -r on the directories managed by git for Puppet.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I prefer Rite-Aid over CVS. *blank stare*
- c.a.j.
Of course, the big downer of SVN is that it isn't distributed and doesn't handle merges and branches nearly as well, from what I've read.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Heh, CAJ, sorry, CVS in this case is a code versioning system.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
<sigh> Couldn't just go with the joke, could ya? :)
- c.a.j.
Heh, uh...oh. *facepalm*
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
If the weather holds up, I'll be doing my first ever official photowalk tomorrow at the Rose Test Garden and Japanese Garden in Portland https://plus.google.com/events...
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best place for a photo walk.
- holly #ravingfangirl
Watching Wasabi. Jean Reno is the bomb. When he speaks French you feel like he could be making love and beating up a bad guy at the same time.
Uh.
- Akiva
The things unsaid are just as important as what's said, Akiva. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
That's what has my eyebrow in a permanent raised position.
- Akiva
I'm sure you understand what I said, but that's not as fun as misunderstanding what I said for comedic purposes.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
You're the guy who feels he has to explain the joke he just told, aren't you.
- Akiva
Sadly, a lot of people don't get my references. :D Of course, if you have to explain a joke...
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Then again, after knowing me for over 5 years, I'm pretty sure you knew the answer to that question before you asked it, heh.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
You guys...
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
135,000,000 to 1 against is a lot closer to 0 than it is to one. #statisticswins #dontpaythemathtax
That someone can choose to ignore the benefits of a technology or product does not invalidate the benefits of the technology or product.
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it's not useful to me - how could it be useful to anyone else?!?!?! #allaboutme
- holly #ravingfangirl
LOL, Holly, exactly. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Good straw man. Shows you being ignorant of what I actually said.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Except it's not a straw man at all, Jimminy. That's exactly what Johnny is doing. I'm sure he's trying to be funny, but not really succeeding. And once again, this is not about you.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I mean, come on, Jimminy, you aren't one of the people getting left behind, you are one of the people leaving others behind you.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex, but for the OP the same could be said about the negatives of a technology or product. The individual doesn't have to be ignorant to the benefits to still decide not to use it.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Alex, possibly, but even if I was I don't care. I'm always going to be left behind in some fashion, even if I'm leading in others.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Wait. So, this isn't related to the fact that Adobe isn't selling physical copies of their Creative Suite anymore? :P
- DAMMIT, MR. NOODLE
I'm not ignoring the benefits. Believe it or not I have 3 exceptional use cases for the technology... but I'm not slobbering over it with froth'd mouth like this will change everything. I get the passion, I don't get the blow back cause I don't share that passion like I'm somehow missing the point or a luddite. Technology won't save us, our proper use of said technology will. Blind faith in technology is misguided
- Johnny
from iPhone
I'm not slobbering over it either because A) it's too damn expensive B) not particularly useful to me yet 3) my brother in the shower iiii) racecar. If you at least have the vision to see where this technology could lead, then we really have no quibbles. The great thing about technology is that it usually works regardless of whether you think it will.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well except for all those attempts at perpetual energy.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Those worked as expected regardless of what the inventors thought as well. :D I guess it's all a matter of perspective.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Love this! -> Alex: "3) My brother in the shower."
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
That some people find a technology or product beneficial does not inherently make it beneficial for everybody.
- Walt Crawford
If you ask me, and I know that you didn't, technology doesn't have to be widely used to be successful, it just has to lead to something else.
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As you've said before, a lot of that hinges on how you define success, which you just did for yourself. I feel much the same way about research - if it leads somewhere, teaches you something, inspires someone, or enriches someone, it was worth it. It is only a failure if it is empty, or poorly executed enough that it detracts from the subject.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Yep. I agree. Lots of different measures for things like success and they are all valid. Or rather, who are we to say which measures are more valid?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And therein lies t question, what does it lead to? How has the enlightenment/modernity affected us peeps? Better/worse? Wikip: "Discours sur les sciences et les arts" par Rousseau see the v.anglo ~ most scathing critique eva. Voltaire even, 40 years daft. Rousseau argues most genuine progress is within ethics, release from immaturity to our own way out. <aside:Kant's a big fat liar, using 'Ausgang' / exit, much like his other texts on history>
- sofarsoShawn
from iPhone
The enlightened generally make more money. :D
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I <3 indoor plumbing. Yay modernity!
- Amit Patel
I usually don't believe everything I read about "reviews", be it movies, technology, food, cars, etc. I make my own opinions based on what I see and experience and understand about stuff. Technology is anything that makes life easier, safer, more manageable, and more fun. Kind of a leveled up machine with new features or an idea that became reality on so many angles.
- SophiaAnne88
What exactly am I arguing today? That a type of technology might leave people who don't get the benefits of it behind? Ooh, yeah, so hard to argue that hey wait, maybe the people who don't use the technology will have better lives, you know, because I didn't frame the conversation as an absolute, on or off kind of thing in the first place.
Pon farr not going well, Alex?
- Soup in a TARDIS
I can't tell whether these Vulcans want to fight me or mate with me or both.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Maybe they don't play the OR version of Mate, Date, Decapitate?
- Soup in a TARDIS
Yeah, or maybe they are all Klingons and this isn't pon farr at all.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Is that a bat'leth in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
- Soup in a TARDIS
That would explain all of the cuts in my jeans and why my wallet is no longer there.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
As we approach the notion of an always connected life, the likely benefits are increased earnings, better health outcomes and higher productivity. You'll notice that increased happiness is not a likely benefit, at least not in my opinion. When I talked about getting "left behind", it needs to be understood in this context.
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This is, I think, a big reason why many will willingly choose the other path.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
People don't understand balance. Money is less important to me than happiness. Health outcomes come in different forms, some with which I agree, many that I do not because they affect happiness of an individual or a group of individuals. Higher productivity at this point is largely pointless, as survival needs have been met for the general populations of the world (not saying it's...
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- Jimminy IS Everybody
There are a growing number of devices, Johnny, that monitor various data points about our health. One example is sleep behaviors. If people who use these devices are able to use them to get better sleep health, for example, it will definitely give them a gain to health.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Jimminy, if you don't think you would use a smartphone if you had one, you can't really say that you grok why smartphones are so useful. If you grokked it, you'd have one.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's ok to say "I don't think that smartphones are all that useful" and be done with the conversation. And don't conflate "grokk" with "intellectual understanding of how something works".
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
As usual, disappointment awaits you.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex, if I had one yes I would, that's almost tautological. I choose not to have one, because I have no need. I don't say they aren't useful, they are, but they aren't necessary and I don't really need one to do anything I couldn't do through other means. Meanwhile, I have to make other trade-offs in privacy, monetarially, and through personal and social annoyances.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Saying you have to have a smartphone to get through life, is like saying well all those people in 1990 didn't know how to live. Poor people without smartphones, there life was so miserable.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Alex, I'm not conflating anything. I get it, I honestly do, but I don't need it or want it. There are absolutely occasions where I wish I had one, but it's only a matter of convenience. And the negatives outweigh the positives for me.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Except, I never said that having a smartphone is necessary to get through life. I think you are arguing here for the sake of arguing at this point. You don't want to be labeled as "left behind", except, as is often the case, none of this really has anything to do with you.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I look forward to the day where my body is covered in sensors collecting data about how I'm sitting on my ass eating potato chips. People know how bad smoking is for them yet still do it. Access to better health information doesn't automatically lead to better health. People are the random element :)
- Johnny
from iPhone
Alex, I responded directly to your questions. If that is arguing, okay.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Performance enhancing drugs aren't necessary for riding a bike, but they are necessary if you want to win the Tour de France. That's what getting "left behind" is like. If you are ok with riding a bike at your pace, that's great, more power to you, but if your goal is to win the Tour de France, you aren't going to do it without PEDs.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Johnny, pointing to the possible negatives/misuses of technology is not somehow going to invalidate what I said. It's like you guys are purposefully skipping over the word "likely" in order to pretend that I'm saying some grand Scoble edict from on high such as "This is the way it will be!".
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yes, that's how I consider being "left behind". It's a seemingly insurmountable hindrance. I do not see not having smartphones, Google Glass, Television, and numerous other things as an insurmountable hindrance. More novelties of convenience. Also what exactly are you trying to win. Life isn't a competition unless you want it to be, in which case just keep trying to keep up with Mr. & Mrs. Jones.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Isn't it obvious that I'm trying to win the 2013 friendfeed popularity contest?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
"Grok" has one "k".
- Tinfoil 2.0
An always-connected life is not a desired outcome in any forseeable scenario, especially where there are significant power imbalances in society. Unless or until you solve that problem, "connection" and its consequences will be used by the more powerful against the less powerful. Sure, they'll toss you some bread and circuses along the way, but in general, people will be working harder, longer, and have less to show for it. It's a Brave New World.
- Tinfoil 2.0
In the not too distant, you will measure friendship even power by peoples willingness to unplug and meet you face to face... #gibsonprobablydaiditbetter
- WarLord
http://www.npr.org/blogs... Google fights Glass backlash before product is even released.
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I think that this could possibly be one of those products that a large number of people don't get and are thusly left behind.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And I mean "don't get" as in "don't understand", "don't like", "don't want" and/or "don't see the benefits".
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The nature of the roll out is only going to exacerbate the problem. The product itself is severely flawed in a myriad of ways, but, seriously, whoever was put in charge of this pre-launch phase should be updating their resume.
- Soup in a TARDIS
What's wrong with the way they rolled it out?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'd take issue with "and are thusly left behind." My guess is that millions of us who don't "get" a particular hot new thing aren't left behind--we choose not to participate. Which is an entirely valid choice unless life, death or health are involved.
- Walt Crawford
I take issue with the arrogance that those who don't bend over and willingly accept every new piece of tech as the holy grail and the product that will change the fundamental way we communicate as a luddite or someone who will be left behind. Maybe it's just possible that the vast majority of those who don't "get it" are actually making a choice that this is silly, a step to far or simply something that only those who display such arrogance will care about.
- Johnny
from iPhone
Surely if you're in the small group using it, you'd be left behind with the other people in the small group using it.
- Pete #TeamMonique
++ Walt & Johnny. These are choices. We absolutely should not blindly accept the technological manifest destiny, build it and they will come, mentality. Particularly when they are being foisted on us by very powerful data-aggregating corporations.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Like how all the people who didn't get on the Apple Newton bandwagon got left behind?
- Victor Ganata
And the Segway. (P.S. I had a Newton, but bought with company money, not personal)
- Tinfoil 2.0
They have given priority to a pool of almost entirely white middle aged men, Alex, almost all of which have ties to IT powerhouses but very little notoriety outside the industry. In one fell swoop they managed to tick the boxes for "pretentious people with lives highly dissimilar to any 'regular' person" and "unattractive shit your dad wears." They also did ZERO prep work to prepare the...
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- Soup in a TARDIS
If it is actually a good thing and works well eventually the majority will get behind it. When cell phone companies switch their focus to something like this then you know it has taken off. Otherwise it will just be another fad
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
I assume Glass uses massive amounts of bandwidth. I can't imagine data carriers being particularly enthusiastic that.
- Victor Ganata
They had a segment on APM Marketplace this morning about how the selective rollout was Google's way of trying to prepare people to adapt to changing social mores. I do think that people born in a world where they can't imagine life without the Internet have way different privacy expectations that those of us who remember a time before Facebook and YouTube.
- Victor Ganata
First generation products never capture markets in one fell swoop, anyway. Even the iPhone took a few iterations to grab all the marketshare, so maybe by the time Google Glass 3.0 rolls around, everyone will have jumped onto the face computer bandwagon.
- Victor Ganata
Isn't that interesting? iPhone has "all the marketshare"--Samsung and Google/Android must find that remarkable. And somewhat counterfactual.
- Walt Crawford
One thing that was immediately obvious to me during the NPR story: despite all of the gushing from Glass enthusiasts, there was only one they thing they could do wearing Glasses that they couldn't do with an ordinary smart phone. At this point, the marginal upgrade in capability and convenience doesn't seem to justify the cost, not to mention the privacy implications.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Walt, I meant "all the marketshare" as in "all the marketshare that they've captured" (which is certainly a significant percentage) not literally 100% of the marketshare, which is, yeah, preposterous. But it's also clear that Samsung in particular has jumped whole-heartedly onto the touch screen smartphone bandwagon. Ignoring patent lawsuit judgments, can anyone really seriously argue that the current form factor of almost 100% of smartphones today wasn't somehow influenced by the first-generation iPhone?
- Victor Ganata
I do.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
I don't get Alex's comments, but I think I'm ahead of the game.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
You can take issue with "get left behind" all you want, shrug. Has nothing to do with being a luddite either. However, if two people are doing the same job and one person has a piece of equipment that gives them a significant edge, the other person will be left behind. Google Glass probably won't be as disruptive as that, but it's a V1 product. Same as the Newton. And the Newton wasn't a failure. The work done there ultimately led to things like the iPhone/iPad.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Until it becomes obvious what that "significant edge" actually is compared to a smartphone, I think I'll wait.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
It's there in the NPR blog that I linked. The potential uses in medicine alone are huge.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Some possible examples. There's a medical app that allows a surgeon to map a patient's body. They can then see using their HUD (which is basically what Glass is) exactly where they need to cut, critical patient data and the surgery can be recorded for later review. A remote surgeon could also use the camera view to help an inexperience surgeon through a new procedure.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Potential != actual. Google may not necessarily be the first to actually implement those features. Personally, I'd wait until a company with medical device and healthcare IT experience gets involved, either with their own devices or in collaboration with Google.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
You're arguing two different things, Alex. Google Glass isn't going to "leave people behind" because of uses and technologies that might result from it in the future. THOSE technologies might be revolutionary and wonderful, these arse-ugly glasses that are currently little more than a glorified cell phone and peep cam won't.
- Soup in a TARDIS
(Also, remote surgery already exists, just fyi)
- Soup in a TARDIS
I'm not arguing anything, to be honest.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And don't worry. As soon as Apple comes out with a similar product most of the naysayers will forget they ever had issues.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Oh yeah, because THAT'S not an argumentative or combative comment.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Let's just hope that this isn't the Newton of this type of technology. It took like what, 15 years for us to go from Newton to a successful useful product that a critical mass could afford?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yes, this CONVERSATION is really just my yearly pon farr. Get ready to fight to the death while wearing Google Glass so the whole thing can be recorded. **cue's Star Trek fight music**
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
If we're talking about iOS vs Android or some other iOS deployed for use in the medical field, well, that's just a function of the critical mass of apps, where iOS has a head start. So, yeah, if Apple really does come out with something like Glass, it may very well be preferred in ORs and on the wards.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
Does either company have a medical testing group? If not it probably won't be either company. That's a long complicated process.
- Todd Hoff
They don't really need to, Todd. These products are frameworks. Other companies that specialize in medicine can build apps for them and sell accordingly.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The whole entire stack needs to be vetter from hardware on down and up. Unless they are indemnified it would be nuts to take somebody elses platform and put the years and millions in trials it would take to get approval.
- Todd Hoff
There will always be niche products that are truly great for what they're for. I don't think Google Glass is one of them. Certainly a well-designed, well-tested medical HUD device could be very useful... to certain people. But that has nothing to do with the merits (or lack thereof) of Glass, or the general population getting "left behind" for not adoptng some niche technology.
- Tinfoil 2.0
There's nothing to suggest that this will just be a niche technology.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I wouldn't buy an Apple Glass either, Alex, especially unless it had serious privacy protections. I don't use Siri. I rarely have Location Services turned on. I eschewe apps whenever possible, particularly if there's a perfectly fine web interfce. The issue isn't who makes it, it's how it's implemented, and how it treats the user AND (especially) others affected by it.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Well, it is niche unless or until no one is left behind :p
- Tinfoil 2.0
iPhone is not a niche product and there are plenty of people who don't or won't have one.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
But many of them have similar tech whcih means they aren't left behind in any tangible way.
- Tinfoil 2.0
And many others do not. There are still a significant number of people who don't have smart phones.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
1Q2013: "136.7 million people in the U.S. owned smartphones (58 percent mobile market penetration)" [http://www.comscore.com/Insight...] That's a pretty sizable proportion.
- Tinfoil 2.0
That's less than half the US. ~180 million people who don't currently have a smart phone is also a pretty sizeable amount.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Babies don't need phones. The majority of the US phone-buying market have smartphones. Seriously, is there anthing so unique about a smartphone that someone using a feature phone and computer (or tablet especially) wouldn't grok quickly enough - that current smartphone users also grok?
- Tinfoil 2.0
You can't grok what you don't have.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Most smartphone owners don't grok what they already have. But anyone who has used a tablet knows how to use a smartphone, except for voice, which is easy but is declining in use anyway.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Finally saw one in the wild today. Bigger & bulkier than I was expecting.
- ronin
I wouldn't buy apple-branded glass either. I think the whole concept is creepy. The tracking part, the taking photos part, plus I wear bifocals already. I also worry about this notion of people who don't get on board with google glass (or like products) will be "left behind" and that is somehow ok. We already have a huge section of the population left behind due to poverty and...
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- Soup in a TARDIS
Soup makes a good point. Tech can be as much of a power lever as money or data. We should be striving to provide equity of access to all power-differentiators, or the haves and have-nots will continue to diverge (with ruinous results probable). That doesn't mean Glass for everyone, just means scientific and technological literacy as a core piece of education.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Developers have definitely been building medical iOS apps and devices that connect to your iPhone/iPad, and they've been getting approved by the FDA. The companies behind them already have medical device experience, though. Apple doesn't seem to be into it directly, but iOS has a huge head start.
- Victor Ganata
The standards when dealing with human patients is exceedingly high. Pixuru is FDA approved, for example, and it allows customers to order framed prints of their own photos. A vision tester is another. Remote access of data. A radiology app. An EKG machine. Blood pressure. All trivial in the scheme of things. A device that can kill someone during a procedure has a lot of hoops to jump through. Look for this tech in easier to approve parts of the world before hits the US.
- Todd Hoff
Yeah, I don't really see GE, Medtronic, Siemens, or Philips necessarily going with either Apple or Google platforms for building medical devices, except for auxillary functions.
- Victor Ganata
Alex, I can grok smart phones perfectly fine. I don't fucking want it because of all the other shit attached that I would prefer not to have, plus I would hardly even use the thing if I did.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Cristo, nice troll.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The notion of getting left behind is worrisome. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine a distopian world where the rich have access to all sorts of technologies, implants, etc. and the poor continue to live in squalor.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Cristo, your view of this sort of thread is severely warped. This is a conversation. A discussion. It's not an argument. If you want an argument that room is down the hall. There's no right or wrong here, only possibilities.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
In all this let's remember that IBM showcased an almost identical product with tiny postage stamp screen close to eye clipped to an eyeglass frame over 10 years ago. Remember ubiquitous and wearable computers?!? Yeah! No body climbed on that train either
- WarLord
Well, except for all of those Nike Fuelband users, fitbit users, etc.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Here's an Ad for Google's Project Glass, from 2000 and Made by IBM http://www.geekosystem.com/ibm-wea... via @geekosystem
- WarLord
Except that IBM never actually made a product.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I've worn corrective lenses almost my entire life. I've watched my eyegl,ass wearing friends rush to contacts and even surgery to shed those bulky anoying frames and lenses - This attitude is a big barrier for Glass to get over. The plus will have to be astonishing to overcome this minus
- WarLord
Probably...then again, the technology to do this on a contact lens will get here eventually. Or just build it all into an Ironman like suit. I'm pretty sure that if someone could look like Ironman for $200, a lot of people would be paying for that.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
IBM were debuting a product, - mthey made a hands on demo to a portable computer project I was working on in St Paul over 10 years ago. So yeah Alex IBM did in fact have a beyond beta hardware package which is I guess what we arer discussing woth Google
- WarLord
My brother didn't have a picture of himself taken with it in the shower, therefore it did not exist.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
If your point is that this tech has been in the works for a very long time, yep, no doubt. Just like how digital hearing aids physically filled a large room when first built in the 80s. Technology is much more often evolutionary than revolutionary.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
WarLord, I remember that ad on TV :)
- Tinfoil 2.0
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