DISGRASIAN OF THE WEAK! Asian-American Women Most Likely to Attempt Suicide at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture - http://www.racialicious.com/2009...
"Asians love being the best. But here’s one superlative we don’t love–Asian-American women are most likely to think about and attempt suicide, more than all other Americans, according to a new University of Washington study. The study, published in the current issue of the Archives of Suicide Research, found that 15.93 percent of U.S.-born Asian-American women have contemplated suicide in their lifetime, as opposed to 13.5 percent for all Americans, and that suicide attempts among us were also higher than the general population, at 6.29 percent vs. 4.6 percent."
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
That's surprising. As someone who suffers from depression and has considered suicide many times, I tend to pay attn to media reports of suicide (granted, most suicides don't make the papers, I guess). The only Asian-American woman I remember committing suicide is the author of the "The Rape of Nanking".
- Spidra Webster
hmm. i feel like a large percentage of the suicides (and attacks) that happened at my alma mater involved asian females. and yes, there were enough while I was there for me to keep a running tally :( i suppose this might explain it.
- Liz
Oh, I can totally believe this. I've had 6 female friends in HS kill themselves. All Asian. College was much worse. The pressures of fitting into boxes and such has to suck.
- Admiral Anika
*Got Johnny's joke after reading about this unknown band from Wikipedia* :D
- Jemm
Pour some sugar on me... who doesn't know that song.
- vijay
"Mac OS X 10.7, "Def Leppard," will feature a special one-handed typing interface." I couldn't remember this joke. Johnny yours was just as good. But this one I saw this morning. http://twitter.com/cieslak...
- Adam Turetzky
Who's on the back of the box, Snow? (Informer...icky boom boom down)
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Am I lame for not making the gay cake connection without having Sparky point it out for me?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
This reminds me of a cake I made for my niece when she was 3 or 4. I didn't do quite that many layers, but it was still colorful. (When I had asked her what kind of cake she wanted for her birthday, she said "rainbow.")
- Katy S
Derrick, I hope it is. Gwen's photo is the first I've seen of it, but I haven't been there for 3 or 4 months, so it may be a new item. I'm planning a long lunch trip over there next week, I'll ask them if it's a permanent menu item.
- vicster is...
ROFLMAO over 'gayke'. I now need to bake a gayke and blog the process.
- Sparky
Is this eatable really? or just decorative? I like the looks. :-)
- Olivia Lovag
it's just food coloring. at worst, your mouth will look like you ate a rainbow.
- jbrotherlove
Yeah, when I made one similar to this, I just made really thin layers of a white cake and used bright food coloring to make each layer a different color before I baked them. It was easy, but a little time consuming. I frosted the outside white and then made a rainbow on top of it with colored frosting and used the rest of the colored frosting to make rainbow confetti spots on the sides. I used square cake pans so that the slices would look more like one of those color spectrum sticks.
- Katy S
Actually, I have been having problems with FF's search lately... it can't find any of my older than 6 months posts.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I've always had issues - probably my lack of comprehension ;)
- Mona Nomura
Oh, but I guess you mean the other side of search (getting Google to pick up your stuff)... just caught that... I need to learn how to use Google to look up stuff on FF instead of looking up stuff on FF, I guess!
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Lindsay - let me put it this way. One year ago today, I was not Googleable. Fast forward 365 days and my content is searchable. Apparently I can be looked up by my first name (I don't see it, but Chris mentioned I'm on the first page) I attribute that to FriendFeed and the FF community :)
- Mona Nomura
I have always had a bunch of pages (at least the first 12 or so) in Google when I look myself up (I've never been shy about putting my name on stuff I do on the net) so it never occurred to me to try to use Google to look up my stuff on FF. But that issue aside, and back to your original question, I would like to know if I can get my FF direct posts into an archive somewhere... especially concerned since I can't search for anything older than 6 months... is everything really still even there?
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I was just thinking this in the middle of the night when I woke up and couldn't get back to sleep over this whole thing. Isn't that nuts? I lost sleep over a flipping website... only it wasn't over a website. It was over people like Paul, who I follow and people like Ladybug Heather who has a post right beneath this one in my feed right now, and lots and lots of others. Anyway, well said.
- Jim in Real Time
Jim, I don't think that's nuts. This web site has great tech for finding interesting people, and that's where this community came from.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Bruce, give me a little credit -- I'm pretty sure I haven't been brainwashed. For what it's worth, I spent the majority of the time talking, including quite a bit of time talking about the fact that Facebook has a poor reputation among many people. Also, I believe your claim that they are using your picture in ads is incorrect -- see http://cbs5.com/local...
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, plain and simple: why did you sell FF? (you told me you wouldn't, in our chat)
- Luca Sofri
The same reason anyone sells their labour. Go read Wealth Of Nations by Adam Smith, 18th century economist. Profit :)
- Mark
I like you, and I'm more than willing to give you a little credit. It's just that "Trust me, Facebook is OK" is a big pill to swallow. And I'm not going to try hard to defend what I wrote; the goal was more to spill the worst inside thoughts/impressions than to present a solid argument. Maybe it's unreasonable to suggest you were brainwashed, but reassure me anyway!
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, the answer is very simple: Paul is fully aware of any outright manipulation and/or attempts to dupe him that may or may not have taken place before this deal was concluded. Let's give him at least that much credit. But the Paul you "know" is only part of the Paul that Paul knows, and that other Paul knows what's best for Paul, April and Thomas, their offspring and future chance of feeling proud on account of him being "their son the doctor!" ;-))
- ianf ⌘
Maybe to became the Bungie Jason Jones ten years after the Microsoft's Bungie acquisition? :)
- Federico Bolsoman
ianf, I don't know whether your answer is right or wrong, but even if it's right, it doesn't help me know the future of friendfeed.com. I look forward to Paul's blog post.
- Bruce Lewis
Luca, what I said was true -- we weren't looking for anyone to buy FriendFeed. However, after talking with a lot of people at Facebook, we realized that this is the best way forward for both the product and the team.
- Paul Buchheit
ok, still curious about what made you think that, but you deserve our trust and patience. Let us know.
- Luca Sofri
Bruce, I've only been here for 4 months (of rather intensive participation - 3500+ comments, or approximately 6 times my previous yearly total), but it's been clear to me from the start that FF has to evolve or die. It could not stand still, even in ever better functional shape, without going under. Let's face it, compared to FB's 300M global users, Twitters [whatever—I don't know the...
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- ianf ⌘
Bruce, which part of my answer don't you know about? Also, are you going to correct your ads assertion?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, I added an editorial note next to the part about ads. What I don't know about is why this is the best way forward for the product. A brief comment probably won't fully answer that question; I eagerly await a blog post.
- Bruce Lewis
I had dreams about discussing this on real-time posts. Not kidding.
- Kamilah Gill
I would also really like to see FriendFeed's view on this acquisition. It'd be really cool to see what the FF guys were thinking when they made this move as I know a good portion of the users are confused by it (I understand this is unprecedented and highly uncommon with deals like this). I would also really like to see exactly whether Paul and the team have official word that FriendFeed will continue on as a separate product and whether development will continue.
- Brandon Titus
I understand it's asking a lot to get this kind of communication from any company when it is fully within your write to make your own deal in whichever way you wish for whatever reasons you wish. I believe you guys are different though and will be more than able to communicate with the users. :-)
- Brandon Titus
This is a mute point, the deal has been made and we must now either support it or move to another environment more suited to your needs. I'm not shocked that FriendFeed decided to sell, I'm surprised but not shocked. Most software / technology companies start up with the hopes that someone would pay big bux for the smarts and technology produced. I have to respect the decision...
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- Owen Greaves
Owen: I'm not saying I'm shocked and I certainly respect their decision. I am just saying that if Paul and co. want to keep the majority of the community who is up in arms, they should have open communication about the reasons for the deal and the future of FriendFeed (in simple but thorough and official terms that say more than Paul's personal promise since he, unfortunately, no longer has full control over the product anymore).
- Brandon Titus
Brandon: I get it, but they don't have to do anything, they don't have to confer with the community...sure we want them to but when the rubber meets the road they don't have to do anything. It still sucks and I don't like it either but it is what it is. Sorry if I sound cold on the topic but it's done, let's try to move on.
- Owen Greaves
Josh: I'm Canadian, that's the Canuck way to say it :) J/K
- Owen Greaves
Owen, I don't buy it. It's not correct Canuck unless it ends with ", eh?". ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Ok, it's a mute point eh! Sorry, it should be a moot point eh!
- Owen Greaves
When it comes to FF, both "moot" and "mute" may be apropos.
- Kathy Fitch
Owen, the decision to stay or leave is not a clear choice because we don't know if what will is being offered if we stay. We have no idea if or when Facebook will become as good as Friendfeed is today.
- raphaeL
Obviously I can't provide a lot of detailed plans and guarantees, but I can tell you that I'll do my personal best to ensure that the FriendFeed users and community are treated right. I love this product too, and don't want to see it disappear.
FriendFeed lets me use people as filters to turn data into information. Facebook doesn't. Until it does, please, Please, PLEASE keep FriendFeed as a destination alive.
- AJ Kohn
congrats guys! facebook needs what you got!
- Lorna Herf
I'm sorry that I haven't said more about this. As you can imagine, it has been an extraordinarily busy day (and I've barely slept in the past week).
- Paul Buchheit
I'll add my plea to the chorus: Please don't take FriendFeed away from us. And don't make us go to Facebook (because we won't). FriendFeed means a lot to a lot of people and the thought that it will dry up and blow away shortly is very disturbing.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
It's still great to hear from you Paul. Congrats on that new swimming pool full of cash. :D
- Tad
Simply glad you're here now. You've always been a very responsive and transparent team. As much as I cringe at the thought of FF going away, I *am* happy for you and the team.
- AJ Kohn
I request you make it to the next scheduled FFundercats podcast to talk to the community. This announcement deserves a live appearance to the community.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Have been dealing unsucessfully with Twitter for two days, trying to get logged in...Their password reset page says"Snap we can't find you." I keep writing to Tech Support at Twitter and get their helpful auto-generated Twitter Trouble shooting email. My problem is not there. =( Hope FriendFeed does not get that blaise about helping users. @EV
- SashaKane
If FB can't keep the service running, would you consider open-sourcing the thing, so we can?
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Hi Paul, thanks for the assurances. In the future, I would highly suggest that you make this sort of statement shortly after the initial merger release. Thanks again.
- Alex Scoble
I would like to give you a hug right now Paul. However, that would be awkward and April might beat me up so I will just say thank you and press the like button.
- EricaJoy
Thank you for affirming that. Much appreciated.
- Karoli
A few more points that would be nice to have addressed soon. Ability to export data, tool to import friends to Facebook, and will ff.im urls continue to function?
- Mark Krynsky
Those that like friendfeed as is should be most pleased with this statement, as it probably means maintenance to keep the current system as is, without as much attention to new features. It's also good news for all those who like both friendfeed and facebook, as facebook will likely adopt the better features from friendfeed
- Ivan Kirigin
Thanks for making FriendFeed what it is, and lets hope it stays that way, though there's slim chance of that
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Now that I think about it: are you kidding me? They've already stated that FriendFeed's going to be absorbed into Facebook. What kind of sleight-of-hand are you trying to pull now, Paul?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@EricaJoy: I have nothing against hugs. :)
- April Buchheit
Thanks, Paul. I've been getting more and more depressed thinking about the bad ways this could go. The reassurances help a bit, at least. In fact, just hearing you speak on the point is encouraging - the open lines of communication between the FriendFeed team and its users has always been one of the great things about FriendFeed that I'm afraid will be lost with the Facebook buyout. And yes, a FFundercats appearance would be a great idea.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I don't want to read too much into this reassurance but the "personal best" remark made me think like there is not a united FF anymore and that it's up to your personal efforts to prevent it from being eaten by FB :)
- Turker Keskinpala
you can sell the tech but the community can not be bought sold transferred or merged
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
Turker, I do believe that this deal was the right decision -- I'll write a bit more about that when I get a chance. I say that I'll do my "personal best" because I will -- it would be misleading to make promises on other's behalf :)
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: I'm hopeful that this will be the best for both Facebook and Friendfeed. What you and the staff at FF have done is amazing, with only 12 people! I love the service here. I also enjoy Facebook (one I ignore all quizzes and stupid apps), but in a different way. Hoping some coolness can be brought to both. Good luck to you and your team!
- Travis B. Hartwell
this echoes star wars galaxies, incredible unique community. but they upgraded it to be like world of warcraft. this is a replay of the devs soothing messages. the forums were livid the community evaporated.
- Robert Higgins
from f2p
When socialmedian was acquired by Xing they left it alone. I hope the same happens here. I'm sure you will do your best though!
- Michael Fidler
On behalf of the Dutch citizens our Queen wants to let you know: Thx Paul.
- Ton Zijp
Don't know what to say, so lets start with big congrats! from one hand, as an early member of Friendfeed I think we've created here a very cool, collaborative and tech-savvy/passionate community of great people that all probably wish to stick around as much as possible. From the other hand, I know how corporates work and it takes one small decision of share holders to close Friendfeed...
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- Nir Ben Yona
My first reaction is disappointment. I don't believe big corporations do better than small ones. Facebook is inferior to FriendFeed, although it's user base is much larger. Clearly FriendFeed won't survive in the long term, unless it is open sourced. Why not open up and embrace the wonders of the GPL instead of joining forces with the Walled Garden no #1? Facebook don't even operate with permalinks,.
- Morten Blaabjerg
Thanks for the explanation Paul. Of course, I congratulate you guys. I think anyone would do the same thing if they were in your shoes :)
- Turker Keskinpala
Ryo: if you delete your account everything goes away. I totally disagree with you about Facebook, but that's OK.
- Robert Scoble
Good to hear. Unfortunately I think Facebook are going to download the brains of all FriendFeed staff then kill FF.
- Michael McGimpsey
but Paul it is going to disappear - Facebook bought FF not for the site but for you guys. So obviously once its integrated into Facebook, development on FF will stop
- Anthony Feint
If FriendFeed and all of it's functionality get integrated into Facebook I'm all for it.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Paul - that's great news. It surely can't cost a lot to keep this place running and it's a good place to try out ideas before they move to FB.
- Martin Bryant
what about improving the product and making sure it gets more users, not only supports those who stay?
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar - unlikely. Facebook bought FF for the developer talent, not for FriendFeed itself.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
Martin - I also think so, and it is most likely. But I could still have a hope
- Ihar Mahaniok
Paul, please - underpromise & overdeliver...they say it works.
- A.T.
Nice to hear. Too bad you don't call the shots anymore.
- jcunwired
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! (nice name for Facebook skunkworks) I'm sure everyone would love to see FriendFeed itself stay around, even if the innovations that happen are geared towards implementation at Facebook. Thanks for this note Paul! :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
There are a few promises and guarantees that you SHOULD be able to provide. Like, that our network of friends will remain intact and that the features that make this site great will remain. If you can't make those promises, then you shouldn't have done the deal. I sure do hope that the real-time search engine wasn't the centerpiece of this deal (it probably was), because that certainly...
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- Brad Williamson
Paul you did such a nice job with friendfeed, and I so want to believe you, but I'm not sure I can. Not because of you, but because of your new employer. Because your new employer is no longer you, and while I have kind of come to trust you, I do not trust your new boss. Not at all. Please prove me wrong, if they'll let you.
- Jim in Real Time
Paul - thanks for that reassurance. PLEASE stick to that! I was in the middle of reading and participating in a lengthy discussion off of a Robert Scoble post yesterday ... then I came up for air and saw your news. Congratulations - I have no idea what that feels like or how pumped you must be. There are so many things FF does that I LOVE...I know you know that. Please Please PLease dont' go away! Thanks!
- Tobin Truog
Thank you, I think everyone here loves Friendfeed. :)
- Hunt
from BuddyFeed
This is nice to hear, and I really hope that FriendFeed will keep on living. I still have some pain in my stomach because of this :/
- Patrik Johansson
First zombie/mafia request and we're all outta here....
- Fossil Huntress
+1 Fossil Huntress The partitioning of the networks between friendfeed and facebook was a major feature that many people made use of, lacking appropriate controls for who sees what. Merging the two groups of friends isn't going to work, at all.
- Mr. Gunn
we all know what needs to happen. the question is, where? ... FB needs, - apart from being/it is, a large, general, open application platform, - 1. Smart keyboard shortkatze - and Im a kbsCzar to go to, 2. Aggregating facilities, smart /RSS/ .. 3. Full blogging facilities, capabilities, not 140 chars. 4. Full real time comments facilities, capabilities. 5. Real time, live, but ALSO...
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- Petr Buben
I hope you're being open and honest with us. This time. :(
- Kamilah Gill
Thank you! I am sure you will do great things at FB. I just hope that the great app you built here isn't destroyed. I don't know of any other aggregation app that I can embed into my site like this one!
- beersage
Congratulations on your successes, best wishes for more. And thanks for continuing to look out for us loyal, addicted FFanatics!
- Rob Schieber
I hope it continues, i'm a new user and absolutely love it (wish i knew the value of it before)! Congrats!
- Luis D. Santos
As nice as it sounds I'm sorry to say that as a, now, Facebook's employee I'm afraid you'll have to comply to whatever your new boss tells you. Didn't MZ make it clear?
- lelapin
and let me add second, obvious, "Facebook needs" - Friendfeed bookmarklet, and Friendfeed tools - widgets, embedding - real time and not - of posts, and groups ...to embedd, to inject oneself into this thing called Internet ..... so, if FB listens to FF engineering long enough, they are going to get it .. right
- Petr Buben
Paul, what I am worried is not that you're brainwashed, but that there's simply no business need for Facebook to improve FriendFeed from now on, period.
- Ihar Mahaniok
I have confidence Paul. While some of the comments were probably uncalled for, covering an investment (of time and money) in these times to move on and hopefully provide even 'better stuff' makes sense to me. It's pretty obvious there are a LOT of people that don't want to 'lose' Friendfeed. (I wouldn't hold a town hall for a few weeks though :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congrats, Paul. It's sad that people have to make these uncalled for hatred comments about Facebook though. Why can't both sites work together. I think Facebook will do better with FF and vise versa. Take the good features of both services. Don't boycott FB, enjoy it. I'm sick of the negative comments going on, that's all. :(
- Molly, New Ears :P
Molly: What makes you think there's going to be a "vise versa?"
- Christopher A Carr
Because I don't think Paul and the other FF developers would allow FB to do anything. I'm sorry, I am not going to think negative here like some here are. I guess I'm a fangirl for FB.
- Molly, New Ears :P
Finally something about the changes on the horizon that isn't all d0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0om and whining. Thank you, Paul! :D
- Christian (Simply X)
The time to think about how you could do your 'personal best' to ensure FriendFeed continues to exist was prior to the discussions with Facebook. Not after.
- Andy C
Paul, what about the content scam that FB T&C is, does it apply to Friendfeed now? Should we all start writing scripts to retroactively delete all content ever uploaded to Friendfeed? Elaborated a bit here - http://friendfeed.com/mbravo...
- Michael Bravo
We know you'll try your best, Paul. But sometimes, you just can't win the dark side...
- Winston Teo
Thanks Paul for all your efforts. Founders often want the best, but acquiring companies often have people with political/power issues or different/limited visions.
- Mitchell Tsai
*throws a sheep at Paul* is that a good thing?
- Joe
from iPod
yes, thank you, Sergeant Paul ... well, good to hear we go on ... because if not, how about starting www.anotherFeed.com ... or, www.Letsgofeed.com ...... anyway, lets boost blogging capabilities, post more than current amount of chars, lets have TOP POSTS / clicks count list at the head of each group, some stats, lets index group headers, lets have MORE keyboard shortcuts .. - now ......
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- Petr Buben
Facebook considers this such an important moment, the only representative from Facebook was Zuckerberg.
- Andy Bakun
Like taking candy from a baby. FF developers and concepts are ten times the platform FB is. But I guess Mark has superior Business skills so he steals it all. respect for Mark's business skills.
- Robert Higgins
I think this is adorable, but some Christian Taliban think different.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
I accept that due to cultural beliefs this picture will not be acceptable. What I get concerned with are the years of objectifying this particular part of the anatomy as purely a sexual object which then brings about disgusting thoughts in those who perpetuate this theme when breastfeeding occurs in a public place. Go to many tribes in Africa where women sit around in groups openly breastfeeding helping each other and their children who grow up around this culture accept it as the norm.
- Pamela harnden
Somehow, despite the fact the this is "just a service", I feel defeated. Rochelle puts it well in a post today that she feels less motivated to post to FF now. This sucks.
Can someone find an example of what this form would look like after it's filled in? I want to see what one looked like when it's written on.
- Rochelle
aww. that's not fair that we're penalized for not being able to go to Gnomedex. :*(
- pea
bummer, i cant get to gnomedex, :( (cries after all his hard work of finding 3 different examples even though they all look the same, :( tears in my beer, o O
- chaz2b
@Rochelle It's all about packaging..."Geeks, own a piece of your history! Limited supplies available!"
- Neal Jansons
from IM
Wow. I never used one of those. Started on Fortran 66 in 1976, but always used punch cards. We often opened up the computer when it was quirky and removed dead insects - perhaps once/day.
- Mitchell Tsai
ok. I'd heard of Fortran, but I knew nothing about these forms. Interesting find, Rochelle
- Kamilah Gill
interesting I'd never heard of that, did a google search and learned something today! Couldn't understand why all the comments about a piece of lined paper. Cool
- Laurel Chase-Dunn
I just heard that Sam, survivor of the horrific Victorian bushfires died today. Such a sad end to a story that brought a smile to all our faces during such a horrible time.
- Penny
Reading about Sam in the paper (Herald Sun) this morning ... "It sure was worth it for what it taught the world about the vulnerability of Australian wildlife and the wonder of survival of a few, when so many thousands more didn't make it" .. :(
- Penny
To track activity, watch the hashtag of #lunch20. There is even a raffle to win cool stuff if you send a note to @kosmix with #lunch20 as the hashtag. :)
- Louis Gray
"A baby wallaby sat in a zoo attendant’s lap at Edogawa Natural Zoo in Japan Tuesday. The staff are raising the young wallaby after her mother neglected her. (Junko Kimura/Getty Images)"
- Myrna
from Bookmarklet
"The first war between G.I. Joe and Cobra (1985-86), as documented in the G.I. Joe animated series, was the most violent conflict in history never to result in a single casualty. Through a combination of terrible aim, superhuman jumping ability, and impossibly reliable parachutes, every combatant escaped even the most dire of situations without so much as the angle of his beret askew. The G.I Joe series is an ode to the improbable escape, and the thrill of the violence comes not from the possibility of death but from the zany ways the Joes and Cobras avoid it. (Will the live-action G.I. Joe film due later this summer stick to the cartoon's bloodless ways? Not likely.) Herewith, a collection of the most ridiculous escapes in G.I. Joe history."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Felicia left a comment on this which brought it back to my Flickr activity screen and it made me want to share this bit of awesomeness all over again. Yay indeed.
- Michelle Jones
from Bookmarklet
I totally agree with this... "Hot nerds are kind of like sexy leathermen: you see a lot more of them in movies than you do in real life."
- Mike
from Bookmarklet