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l0ckergn0me posted a message
“Why do I have such strong feelings against Amazon's Kindle? I honestly don't know. It seems like a massive waste of DRM'ed money.”
September 15 at 12:28 pm - via Ping.fm - Link
I have always loved the idea of using a single, thin n portable device where I could get electronic versions of publications transmitted to it.. be it a magazine or newspaper subscription, or even as I walk past somewhere and get a free publication beamed to it. The kindle, and even sonys offering, just aren't there yet. I guess star trek spoiled me ;) - alphaxion
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Have you actually used one for any length of time? Or explored the myriad of DRM-free options to get content onto the Kindle (FeedBooks, ManyBooks, Project Gutenberg, Archive.org, Creative Commons, etc.)? Even the clever hacks to get automatic delivery of blog feeds as "newspapers", without paying for them through Amazon? The Kindle is actually a pretty open platform. Only the books Amazon sells have DRM on them (and not all of them do - some are secretly DRM free). And the DRM is no worse than iTunes. - Josh Bancroft
Plus all the innovative features it DOES deliver - the unlimited, no-monthly-fee EVDO service, web browsing, AskNowNow, Audible audiobook and MP3 playback, not to mention the gorgeous high DPI eInk screen and tremendous battery life (weeks with the radio turned off). I think the Kindle gets a bad rap from people who haven't actually used one. But that's just me. I'm a rabid fan. :-) - Josh Bancroft
The kindle is TOTALLY there for novel and business book reading. At least 70% or more of the books I buy will be on a device like the kindle from now on. We need another form factor, though, to handle technical specs like most programming books, text books, etc... Amazon has something with that in mind coming up next. I don't like the DRM either, but I really don't like cluttering meatspace with dead tree by-products. - Tad - the Meme Maker
Ok forget the DRM. What do you think of the Tech? How can it be improved? What Do you like about it? Where could it be used? Who would use it? These are the questions we want to hear your expert geekyness answer. - Bored
The DRM is a non-issue for me. The Kindle , in its current form, is an amazing device. I bought it to read books, and I have read more in the past year than I had in the five years prior (books, mind you - I read constantly online). So, I bought it for that purpose, and it serves its purpose amazingly. Can't wait for the new one. ;) - Andru Edwards
Next time we're in the same town, Chris, I challenge you to a Kindle throwdown. It's not perfect, but it suffers from a LOT of misconceptions. I'd love a chance to set the record straight (and no, I have no stake in Amazon or anything besides being a happy Kindle owner). Do you accept my challenge? :-) - Josh Bancroft
Indeed. An iPod Touch 8GB, eReader app 'Stanza' w/ the option to upload/download your own ebooks via app beats the Kindle hands down ;-) - CannonGod
I hated the Next and Previous buttons the first day - always clicking them at the wrong time, but since then I haven't had any problems. I'm not sure I'm a raving fan, but I really, really like my kindle. It's a transformative tech. I don't want to read clunky ole meatspace books anymore. - Tad - the Meme Maker
I have a Kindle and love it mainly because it makes books I otherwise never getting around to reading completely accessible. The form factor is also outstanding and the digital ink screen reads like a real book. - Brad Bostic
The Kindle rocks. Kicks the tar out of reading on the iPhone. Honestly, that's not even a realistic comparison (I have both.) Downside? The UI for the Kindle is terribly slow. Mine will hang occasionally, needing a reboot. Otherwise, I'm reading much more now that I have one, DRM or not, and to me that's a Good Thing. Can't wait for rev2! - Jack Baty
Again guys, try reading on your iPhone or Touch for more than an hour or two - serious freaking eye strain. The screen size is all wrong too. I'm not saying it's worth the $350 - but I am saying that it will be ubiquitous when the price dips under $100 - Tad - the Meme Maker
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Steve Rubel posted a message
“Hey the Friendfeed nav bar moved to the left.”
September 12 at 2:21 pm - Link
It sure did. I'd pay money to have it put back where it belongs - Jack Baty
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not me - it belongs on the left! - Capn' "One-Eye" Longman ☠
I like it better this way. - Stagekid
I like it better now... most of the frequent clicking is in the upper left corner, instead of having to mouse all over the screen to get to stuff. - £ogical €xtremes
It's better: the right side is used for user-specific info - I missed that. - Steve Isaacs
Too narrow, hover popup blocks the other links. Post counts no longer displayed. My mouse lives on the right so *now* I have to move my mouse more. This is fun! :) - Jack Baty
I think it depends on if you're a lefty or a righty. - Steve Rubel
Nav should _not_ be on the left for left-to-right reading. The most important aspect of friendfeed is the content, not the menu. Additionally, to reach the menu, the mouse now has to cross the content, which is distracting not to mention requiring farther to travel (notice where your mouse hovers when you scroll the page). http://friendfeed.com/e/1d9a06... - ·[▪_▪]·
I liked it SO much better on the right. Content is king, should be to the left. Nav is secondary, should be to the right. - Jandy Stone
Stop dividing our Friendfeed country ! Put the bar on the right. (Update: can't we have a drag/drop sidebar?) - Armando Alves
Post here for an option to support either: http://friendfeed.com/e/1d9a06... - ·[▪_▪]·
See? More proof of a liberal bias in social media. - Matthew Davidson via twhirl
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FriendFeed Beta: James E. Lee posted a message
“I really like right-hand nav. Is it possible to make it an option? I know it's a pain, and it's not that big of a deal, but it would be very nice. I'd love to hear some elaboration on the reasoning that putting nave on the left helps people with wide screens...”
September 12 at 2:06 pm - Link
Yes. Please, please, please move it back to the right. On the left, it interferes with the flow of reading the feeds. I have wide screens and i prefer the right. At the very least, give me the option. I'm going back back to using standard, non-beta. It's driving me nuts. - ·[▪_▪]·
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agreed. my mouse is on the right of hte keyboard, tends to stay on the right of the screen. left is out of the way. - Michael J. Cohen (mjc)
Exactly. Windows are resizable as I recall, so the wide-screen argument seems unusual. - Jack Baty
I don't have a widescreen but I like the left size nav better... just my 2 cents :) - lezionidistile
Yes *please* put the navigation back on the right. My mouse stays to the right and, seeing the nav bar everytime I go to read an entry is awful. Can't it be an option or something? - Candace Holly
This may not actually be the case, but right-hand nav seems more ergonomically correct for right-handed people, since we probably don't have to move the mouse as far to cross the screen. I'll be the first to say I've done zero research into this, I'm just saying how it feels. Also, I think its faster to scan content when that's the first thing on the left. - James E. Lee
An option for this would be a good solution for all of us. - Waldemar Schott
I agree, an option is needed. Personally, nav should _not_ be on the left for left-to-right reading. The most important aspect of friendfeed is the content, not the menu. To reach the menu now, the mouse has to cross the content, which is distracting not to mention requiring farther to travel (notice where your mouse hovers when you scroll the page, likely to the right of the content). - ·[▪_▪]·
heh. I like the sidebar better on the left. But the design of the sidebar seems to have changed, it looks awfully white and blue.... - Jason Kaneshiro
It's weird because the content doesn't go all the way over to the right so I have all this sort of unneeded whitespace on the right. - Brandon Titus
i also like the navigation sidebar on the right because i get to read more text on the left hand side without always having to slide my browser window if the navbar was on the left - imabonehead
Yes, please. Move it back to the right or at least make it an option. It gets in the way as is. Also, as you go further down the page their is all this wasted space on the left. - Nesta Campbell
I don't like the way the sidebar looks either. Now you can't expand the rooms list and you don't have the services icons from your feed. - Alejandro S.
I liked it a lot better on the right, too. I was totally digging the layout before. Too bad it changed. - Cassandra
I do love the new posting options, though (eg. photos, link.) - Cassandra
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FriendFeed Beta: Jérôme posted a message
“I liked the instant information about room activties in the "old" beta....now I need a click more for the overview”
September 12 at 1:46 pm - Link
You can also hold your mouse over the room name - we have info popups for rooms now. - Bret Taylor
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Point...pause...read...point...pause...read vs Scan...read. I preferred the other way. - Jack Baty
but that's not really instant since I have to patient for 2 seconds for every room... - Jérôme
+1 Jack. In the previous version it was much easier to see if a room had any recent activity. I'd like to have that back... - Ray Metzen
http://beta.friendfeed.com/roo... also contains room activity - Benjamin Golub
Not only that, but try hovering on the first room's name. For me (Safari) the popup prevents me from then hovering over the room name below it. - Jack Baty
But why the navigationbar on the left side? There is plenty of unused free space on the right - Niki Costantini
+2 Jack - Jérôme
And what is the "Friendfeed Be" room? Oh, it's just the name being cut off. I don't love it. - Jack Baty
Noted :) The navbar on the right was causing a number of issues for people. People with large monitors complained it was too far away from the content, which made it harder to navigate. People with small screens complained it was too wide. This design performs well on all screens. Let us know what you think after using it for a bit. - Bret Taylor
I don't doubt it Bret, and there are nice improvements here. I'd suggest that the folks with large monitors (which include me) simply reduce the size of the window, since that is an option :). As it stands now, no matter what I do to the window I'm stuck with less information than before. I imagine I'll get used to it. - Jack Baty
Yeah I miss the activity count over there.. - Steve Isaacs
How about a resizable sidebar? As it gets bigger, it automatically shows more information? - Slippy Lane
Good idea, Slippy Lane. +1 - Ray Metzen
I actually liked the one line of summary info. Really handy for a quick lookup. Hovers take time and they are not always obvious. - Rob Diana
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A Web OS? Are You Dense? - Ted Dziuba
A Web OS? Are You Dense? - Ted Dziuba
September 7 at 11:41 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Amen - Jack Baty via Bookmarklet
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Tinderbox 4.5.1
September 2 at 5:50 pm - Link
The threads mentioned here are not off-topic at all. Unwanted maybe, but not off-topic - Jack Baty
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Jack Baty commented on a blog post on Disqus
Re: A String of Bad Movies
September 1 at 7:20 pm - Link
"I made it about 45 minutes I think. Just wasn't looking to be anything new so I gave up. Should I try it again?" - Jack Baty
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Tinderbox: from Michael Bywater
August 27 at 11:42 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"Sometimes on the Mac I feel I am drowning in good taste" - Jack Baty via Bookmarklet
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43 Folders Social Networks: The case for a "Pause" button
August 27 at 5:16 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"Especially on a site like FriendFeed, which has quickly become the platform of choice for the web’s least interesting narcissists — and the slow-witted woodland creatures who enjoy grooming their fur" - Jack Baty via Bookmarklet
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FriendFeed Beta: Jack Baty posted a message
“When viewing a group feed, I don't see the Hide link. Is that intentional?”
August 25 at 5:39 pm - Link
The hide link suddenly showed up everywhere but in search results. - Jack Baty
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Allen Stern posted an entry on HTMLCenter - Web Help and Web Development Blog
Is Facebook Poised to Kill Classmates?
August 25 at 2:40 pm - Link
I certainly hope so. - Jack Baty
At least kill the obnoxious Classmates banner ads, please! - Bill Sodeman
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Re: Connect360 and the XBox
August 25 at 12:28 pm - Link
"Ooh, and it connects to my Aperture library and maintains folder structure for my movies folder as well. Thanks!" - Jack Baty
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Re: Comments are out, Friendfeed is in
August 23 at 10:41 am - Link
"Of course that didn't last. Getting people to spend significant time in Friendfeed has turned out to be more difficult than expected. Back to enabling comments, not that it makes much difference either way." - Jack Baty
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How Not to Have An Affair If You’re a Politician
August 13 at 10:26 am - Link
Does it concern anyone else that politicians as a group seam unable to control their animal urges; and they run the country? - Robert Hafer
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no its more of a power and control trip .. its not biological animal urges.. - Peter Dawson
no different to people in other positions of influence and power. Remember power always corrupts - to some degree or other. - Ian Hussein Maverick May
People in no position of power at all do the same things. Power may corrupt, but many people seem to have gotten a pretty good head start. - Jack Baty
I suppose it's just my silly hope that people who lead our nation would be better than average. - Robert Hafer
I'm not sure if he means how to avoid and affair, or "If you have an affair, don't do it like this." Kinda sad either way. It's why I voted for Bob Dole. Until Viagra came out, anyway. - Brian Norwood
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Gmail Outage or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love GTD Contexts
August 12 at 8:40 pm - Link
Ahh sanity - Jack Baty
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Instant Cocoa - pTerm
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SSH Client for the iPhone! - Jack Baty via Bookmarklet
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Bruce Ivins Wasn't the Anthrax Culprit. But the Media Loves the Myth of the Lone Nutjob with a Grudge. (WSJ op-ed)
August 5 at 12:49 pm - Link
...almost as much as they love a conspiracy theory :) - Jack Baty
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PostSecret: Sunday Secrets
PostSecret: Sunday Secrets
July 26 at 9:55 pm - via Mento - Link
Why is there an extra foot? - Mona N.
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I think there's a *missing* foot - Jack Baty
How do you know?? - Mona N.
Ugh.. gross. HATE FEET!! - Louie
Louie: send a myspace bulletin. i've seen you say the same thing today like... TWICE in one hour!! - Mona N.
I really liked - I can't get Howard Roark out of my head. - Victor Ryden
+1 Mona - Cyndy
LOL . . . is it sad that I didn't notice the extra foot? -_- - Lindsey Smith
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David Sifry posted a link
Regarding the Cuil Launch, aren't we being really tough on them? Think about the expectations that have been piled on them. Sure, some of those expectations have...
July 28 at 5:57 pm - Link
If you manage to get yourself on the main page of every news site in the world, you better be ready for the deluge that follows. This is a success failure on a grand scale. - Stephen Pierzchala
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I dunno. Maybe, but with all the fanfare, what else were we going to do? The thing kind of blows in current form. Neat glimpse, but not even really "labs" quality. - Chris Brogan
David: Stephen is exactly right. Expectations for a search engine ARE extraordinarily high, but then they should be. Any company that gets $30 million to compete with Google (and hire the PR that they did) should be looked at pretty toughly. - Robert Scoble
Unexpected load levels following major public releases are the big surprise here, whatever it is they're trying to deliver. Look in the last few days (weeks) at all the overload trouble that cast doubts on the likes of MobileMe & Twitter. Of course, testing the limitations of scalability (and surmounting them) seems to be the brass ring here, but the real story is the visceral response that viral marketing spawns among a widening audience of users outside the "endless September" bubble. - Chris Kim A
I'm not seeing anything special with Cuil. Has everyone forgotten about MyLiveSearch: http://www.mylivesearch.com/ That was also a supposed Google killer, but at least it does more than Cuil. Search is not a market to attempt to compete in right now. - James Mowery via twhirl
Two basic expectations of modern search engines: They're fast and they return good results. Cuil meets neither expectation. That's NOT asking too much. - Dwight Silverman
Not asking too much. Semantic search is a "big one" that many of is would like. Cuill's "epic FAIL" is their stupidity to not do a (1) alpha-launch, generate buzz by selectively letting in tech bloggers, test their stuff, make bloggers feel good by being in on something early, about 200-500 people (2) private beta-launch, quiet, limited to 5,000 people (3) New York Times launch. - I think their team was focused on the "Stealth approach", not realizing they would shoot themselves in the foot. - Mitchell Tsai
It wasn't a great day to be cuil. It yields some pretty erratic and not very useful results in a nice looking format. Cute but vacuous won't get it. Search is a power tool, not a fashion accessory. - Phil Yanov
what got me was the amount of spammy results I got back, considering the seo people haven't had a chance to game them yet... Doesn't seem too promising. - Janek Mann
"Epic FAIL?" c'mon, give them a week or so to stop being surprised by the response and then let's see if they have a valuable product. Being overwhelmed by the initial response is neither stupid nor indicative of failure. Just me. - Jack Baty
I agree. - Dave Hussein Winer
But considering the names that were behind and therefore the expectations it had carried, not to mention the search engine was a launch, not a beta release, I think we could? - James Cooper
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Michael Nielsen » Shirky’s Law and why (most) social software fails
July 25 at 2:15 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"I’ve heard hackers brag that they could have built Twitter over a weekend. Underlying this boast is a misunderstanding of what is truly impressive. Coming up with Twitter required only a small amount of technical knowledge. The hard part was the social insight to realize such a tool would be useful. This is a social insight the bragging hackers didn’t have." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
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The technical know-how required to write the 1st web browsers wasn't hard either... And on the business side, in successful companies, perhaps people like 10% of your product offering, but do you have the guts to give up 90% of your idea? Most beginning CEOs/founders don't. - Mitchell Tsai
The magic is in the "take up" of new services. I don't think anybody knows why some things take off, and others fail. The reasons seem to be changing too - towards crowdsourcing and so on. We can only sit, watch, and speculate. - Jonathan Beckett
@Jonathan: we could be doing something useful instead =) - Alex
@Paul, I hate when I hear things like "Twitter is easy to write". Yeah the base application is, but providing good searching, scalability and reliability are proven to be hard problems. It is so easy to complain, but hard to present solutions. - Rob Diana
Scaling and reliability aren't that hard either, if you pick the right tools. All the integrations and data feeds are proving to be tedious, though. - Jason Carreira
@Jason, when I say hard I mean few people have done it successfully and you need to build your applications differently than normal. Once you find the information, nothing seems that hard :) - Rob Diana
Lot's of people have done it successfully. Think about how many stocks, bonds, futures, etc. are traded every day. Some systems are doing literally 10's of thousands of transactions per SECOND. They're just not Web 2.0 or built on Ruby on Rails. - Jason Carreira
Jason, I was speaking relatively. In the "world" of developers, there is a small percentage who have scaled something like the applications you describe. There is only a slightly larger percentage who have even tried to build a public website or service to be used by more than a few people. Just trying to keep things in perspective. - Rob Diana
Anyone who *ever* says "scaling and reliability aren't that hard" has never actually designed, developed, or deployed a new scalable, reliable system. It is damn hard. It was hard for the engineers who built the market data systems (who Jason is insulting by calling their work easy), it is hard for Google, it is hard for Amazon, it is hard for Visa, it is hard for Apple, and it is hard for Twitter. - ⓞnor
And it is *not* a matter of the "right tools". It is a matter of tirelessly working at a million small details while being ruthlessly quantitative about the big picture. It is a matter of reinventing pieces, time and time again, when it turns out your earlier decisions are biting you in the ass. It is a matter of changing all four tires on a car going 90mph without stopping, and by the way the engine's on fire too. But this is all beside the point, which is that Nielsen here is 100% right. - ⓞnor
ⓞnor rant++ - Kevin Scott
ⓞnor nailed it. Amen sir. - Jack Baty
ⓞnor +10 - Josh
I can't agree more with both Paula and @nor. I find armchair architects unfathomable - even more so those who actually have architecture/design experience and yet don't think twice before holding court on somebody else's effort. These guys either haven't learnt anything at all from their supposed experience or are just plain opaque and thick. - /(bb|[^b]{2})/ (Kamath)
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Jack Baty commented on a blog post on Disqus
Re: Why Twitter Must Die
July 25 at 10:09 am - Link
"I don't view my follower count as a "community" and think those who do are kidding themselves, especially those who are freaking out that their count is down. I don't care if the numbers are off, and I don't "tirelessly" create content on their behalf. I do it for fun. As stated earlier, it's the people on Twitter that make the difference. I broadcast, and I listen. The value for me is in the now, not the history. If Twitter dropped of the map tomorrow, I personally would be out nothing, and that's what I've spent, and exactly what they owe me. Servile? Hardly. You are right that they've been getting a free ride and perhaps shouldn't be. Though every other service I'm on except Friendfeed, (Plurk, Identi.ca, etc) has had performance or other issues as well. Twitter is still the best ride in town. I hope Twitter survives, but if they don't, whatever. And with other services replicating the Twitter API, even 3rd party services shouln't suffer too much if we need to find a replacement." - Jack Baty
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Re: I Am The Guy Who Reads Your Blog and Never Leaves Comments (AKA The Lurker)
July 24 at 1:12 pm - Link
"I wasn't aware that every blog was meant to be a conversation. Hate not being a "good blog citizen" but I tend to wait until I have something valuable to offer before commenting, which may explain why so I seldom do." - Jack Baty
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Thomas Hawk posted a message
“Wow, hundreds of messages about friend caps and people losing followers and subscriptions on Twitter yesterday and not a single story on Techmeme about it. Two months ago this would have been the #1 Techmeme story. Maybe people really have stopped caring about Twitter and moved on.”
July 24 at 6:37 am - Link
I concur - Jason Lister via twhirl
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Yes, this puzzled me as well - given the number of blog posts published on the topic it is rather strange. Maybe Gabe has removed Twitter from the list of preferred words to track? - Svetlana Gladkova via twhirl
GOOD POINT Thomas! where's the love for twitter now?! - Susan Beebe
I've just stopped blogging about it. There's way more interesting news out there than the constant fails of Twitter. - Cyndy
Or maybe Twitter mis-steps are just so frequent these days that it's stopped being news when something breaks. Still, I was surprised when I went to Techmeme this a.m. expecting a veritable Twitter bitch fest and found absolutely nothing on Twitter at all there. - Thomas Hawk
Cyndy is a prime example of loss of interest in a tired subject - twitter fail whale re-run episodes! - Susan Beebe
It hasn't been on TechCrunch yet.... hmmm - Bwana McCall
as you eluded to Thomas, i think that that is exactly what has happened. The constant negativity that is sparked from the manifestation of the failwhale does not make it newsworthy anymore. - Carlos Ayala
I think they are paying attention to other things. Abandoning Twitter because it is a pain in the ass is like abandoning your teenager because they are a pain in the ass. Stick with it people!! Users need a product they can rely on for a long time, not the newest, shiniest thingy. - Mary Anne Davis
I'm feeling a bit of malaise. When I wonder if I'll leave, I think about the network I have there, and ask myself whether it's worth it to do that again somewhere. That and the SMS short code made my barrier to leave a little higher than I could've predicted. I haven't blogged about it because it just feels too inside baseball to bother at this point. Besides, it looks like Louis Gray already did. : ) - Chris Brogan
So where is everyone now then... Here? - TTI_Dean
Twitter was fun while it lasted, but the thought of doing it all over again somewhere else is just a non-starter. Interestingly, after using the Internet duct tape twitter -> friendfeed importer, and then having subscriptions grow organically over time from there, there's nearly as many people following me on friendfeed as there were on twitter, and I didn't have to work at it at all. - Jason Wehmhoener
Dean: Lots of folks are migrating to http://Identi.ca - Susan Beebe
The Twitter fail whale is cliched - TDavid
I dont think folks have moved on, what I think is that Twitter problems and outages have become so common that its not news any more. - Steve Mann via twhirl
Yes Louis has blogged on it. http://www.louisgray.com/live/... and his blog post is the top story on FF for the past day. But it feels eerie at Techmeme. All the usual suspects are there. Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, Apple, but do a search for "Twitter" on the site and nada. Nothing. Fail Whale oversaturation I guess. - Thomas Hawk
I lost half of my followers! wtf? - orionstarr
I went in through the back door - I opened a twitter account from seeing how much my friendfeed contacts were using it. It is odd going to a text only system, as I came here mostly for the photography... - TreJack
Or it's not really a huge issue, since most everyone didn't actually lose followers. (According to Evan, at least): http://status.twitter.com/post... - Jordan Hofker
I saw a twitter message from ev very quickly after that happened saying that they new what the problem was and the fix was on the way. I think that despite its problems, twitter still provides a lot of value to its users and people have learned to leave through their growing pain (twitter is quickly growing to become mainstream and for more mainstream users I think that those lack of reliability issues are less painful) - Edwin Khodabakchian
Twitter still rocks compared to other services. - orionstarr
@Jordan Then Evan is full of s!@#. And that's not what annoys me. I want MY follows back. I don't particularly care who is following me. I care about who *I* am following. - Cyndy
Or maybe not knowing exactly how may people are following us isn't a real problem. - Jack Baty
now people are talking about it on ff... ;) - Dieter Schwarz via twhirl
I wonder what the noise level would have been if the counts went suddenly way up instead of down. I suspect many would have taken screenshots and casually mentioned the counts as if they were correct :) - Jack Baty
Maybe all the influencers in the world stopped caring about Twitter. That's what Gabe would probably say. - Robert Scoble
Uhm....WTF is Twitter? Is that like Identi.ca or something? - Rah™
Maybe its not that everyone is not caring anymore - maybe its simply that it has grown old talking about Twitter's issues. I mean when have they done a maintenance recently that hasn't had issues afterward? So what if following/follower counts were off at least the service was up. - Brandon LeBlanc via twhirl
Twitter is the worst web service I have seen in my life! It never does work when I need it. - Dimitar Vesselinov
at the same time we had 2 stories in the media (ABC news and USA today) about twitter this week. - Phillip Jeffrey
I think people would care more about this Twitter problem if Twitter hadn't prepared us by progressive FAILing in bigger & bigger ways. Way to ease out your customers Twitter! Give us the easy way out. Gradual progressive failure... - Mitchell Tsai
Funny! Twitter rewarded me for quitting Twitter early. Since I had just started using Twitter 3/28/08, just as I started enjoying Twitter, it started major flaking, and I stopped trying to follow people 5/30/08 (Coincidentally, about 5 days before the first missing people). Got lucky. Haven't lost a single person of the 140 that I'm following (just lost 74 of my recent 78 followers). - Mitchell Tsai
does it make the front page when myspace goes down or lags? no, b/c that's what people have come to expect. days of beating a dead horse behind us?? - Matt Musgrave
Strangely enough even though I am not using Twitter and my profile clearly states so I get many twitter friend requests (which I ignore). Spammers is all I can guess - Brian Sullivan
ya its kinda like :: shurg :: at this point - sean percival
Hm, well I'm one of the peeps that still cares immensely about Twitter. It's taken me a while to build up 2300 loyal followers, so it was v. scary to see 1700 drop off like a calving iceberg! It was quite a fiasco yesterday... the dust has settled now. I've yet to see a platform compare... Plurk, Identi.ca, FriendFeed all have their place. But Twitter rocks! - Mari Smith
Frankly, I don't think it helps giving them any more attention. I'm on hiatus from Twitter - blogging, Twittering, etc. unless they do something profound. I'm tired of this. - Jesse Stay
I don't know if people stopped caring. I think they just realized all the yelling and angst wasn't helping. Millions still depend on twitter... we're just patiently/anxiously awaiting that infrastructure overhaul. - Gregory Go
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