Awful movie. Especially disappointing considering it's from Wes Anderson.
- Jack Baty
Not a great movie but I kinda liked it. But I'm easily entertained and a sucker for Owen Wilson.
- Alan Cheslow
Not the best Wes Anderson movie, but enjoyable.
- David
I love all things Wes Anderson including The Darjeeling Limited. A very beautiful film with great performances.
- Wo
Wow. Surprised so many people didn't like this one. I thought it was fantastic. Maybe my favourite of Anderson's films (too close to call with Life Aquatic)
- Louis Simoneau
Oh! Wes Anderson...not Craven. Explains why all that went to hell was the plot.
- Dale
wow, why did this update from Twitter over a year ago just now show up in FF? weird. for the record, I thought the movie was ... OK. not great, but entertaining.
- Dwight Silverman
from iPhone
The day is coming when the number of devices I have to carry to run my personal and professional lives will number one - the smartphone. The Kindle experience is awesome. Buy a book and bam it's on your Kindle in seconds. But now that the app for the iPhone and iPod Touch (I have both) is more than suitable, I find myself leaving the Kindle at home even on multiple trips to Europe. The smartphone is where it's at.
- Steve Rubel
interesting. i feel just the opposite. the other day i was reading a book and ran out of power. since the charger was at the office, i found myself switching to the iphone and basically gave it up after 10 pages or so. however, im still not sold on the form factor of either device for reading books.
- Chad Stoller
I love reading on the iPhone, too, but to me Kindle's killer feature is the New York Times and the Atlantic.
- Mike Elgan
I can't say I agree...yet. I'd like to be down to one device too, but the Kindle still has value for me.
- Nitin Badjatia
But don't you find the iPhone screen too small? I love Instapaper on the iPhone to read webpages on the go. But for me that only works with short texts. I don't see me reading a whole book on a smartphone like device. So I think it's too bad that Amazon is stil not selling the Kindle over here in Germany...
- Bjoern - Hamburg, Germany
If you sell the Kindle, Steve, will you still be able to get books delivered to the iPhone? I also use the iPhone a good bit for reading portions of my Kindle purchases, although it strains the eyes after a while. But, I have been under the impression that I could not have books available on the iPhone unless they were first sent to the Kindle. ???
- Bruce Keener
Eventually I don't think it will matter which wireless-connected portable computer you'll use to read books and make phone calls.
- Luca Fabbri
For a few pages the iPhone works great, but any sort of extended reading is difficult. Maybe 2 devices - Kindle and iPhone for me.
- Jack Baty
I'm waiting for a pen-enabled Kindle to be my note taking device.
- Rodfather
@Bjoern, I read on the iPhone constantly - no issues. But wait 10 years!
- Steve Rubel
@Bruce, yes, you can order books and the iPhone/iPod app will download them.
- Steve Rubel
I thought you were just going to say DRM
- Geoff Schultz
@Geoff no. I still buy ebooks from Amazon, but where I read them has moved.
- Steve Rubel
Absolutely agree we want ONE device. But iPhone screen is 2 small & Kindle is 2 bulky and ultimately fragile. Implant? Headset-glasses-thing? I say I want a Dick Tracy wristwatch, but it's the same search for one ring to bind them all. Phone, camera, video, recorder, internet, text reading... are we likely to find a solution? I trust engineering to develop the answer. Old enough to recall 10 years of the computer world saying THIS is the year of graphics... until it finally WAS.
- Mary Cole
@Mary, eventually the Apple netbook (aka a big iPod Touch)
- Steve Rubel
Maybe you can wait a while and get a brand new iPhone,app store does sell ebooks as well
- Steve Chou
The iPhone is fine for me, especially with the latest app upgrade. And I do like the backlight.
- Mike Beck
I have and use both. But I can see your point about lugging one device during extensive travel. It'd be nice if the iPhone Kindle app let you read your subscriptions as well as your books.
- Tom Landini
Tommy in due time I bet it will
- Steve Rubel
from IM
@Steve Thanks for clearing me up on that. This has been a very interesting and useful thread. Appreciate you starting the conversation.
- Bruce Keener
I actually prefer Stanza over the Kindle app for the iPhone
- Brian Appleby
I'm waiting until all of you to decide so I don't end up with a toxic waste dump of useless gadgets in my basement. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of you for figuring this out for me. Whatever we're excited about today will absolutely suck tomorrow. Gadgetophelia is a cruel mistress.
- Jack Humphrey
When it comes to size of screen I wonder if people have finished reading one good book. I tell you, you fall through the pages just like with a regular book. I've been reading on handhelds since 2001. The same book magic is there -- and the screen was 2nd "nature" within a week or two.
- Ruud Hein
I have been traveling to 4 european cities last week and I enjoyed taking it with me everywhere, along with my iphone and mac. Different purpose and worth the additional weight I think.
- Loic Le Meur
Yes, I know that I’ve never used a Kindle- so what gives me the right to hate it? Plenty. I think it started off as a great idea. If it requires me to actually try it to believe it’s a great device- their marketing team has lots of work to do. E-readers seem like a great idea, but I don’t think Amazon/Kindle is making enough of a case for itself to justify I really NEED this device...
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- Ramsey Mohsen
Smartphones provide more than enough display area to read most ebooks comfortably (but not most textbooks).
- Sean McBride
There is no question that the Kindle is still at Version .90 - reminds me of my first Tivo, into which I eventually hacked a network card and upgraded drives. Core paradigm great, needs a couple of hard ware revs to make beautiful - but the habit change engendered by Tivo (Episodic stories! Can follow a sports team with ease!) that resulted in better media engagement has its parallel on...
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- David Gifford
For me, I will will stick with the dedicated reader. I have tried reading on PDA's and phones before and it is just not as nice as reading on the Kindle, the screen is just not big enough. The only thing I dislike about reading on the Kindle, especially blogs and newspapers, is that I cannot share/save the articles I like. I really wish there was some social network type integration. Even if it was just a simple bookmarklet type function so that I could share on Twitter/FF or save to my Diigo account.
- Sean Brady
@Ramsey your arguments are interesting until one bumps into ipod worshipping. total turn off :(((
- A.T.
@David there is *one little hiccup* with Kindle - you need it to read ebooks from amazon. with books from shop you need only your eyes and some basic light. you are going into kind of dependency which you do not understand for 100%. What if tomorrow Amazon decides to raise prices (because almost all bookprinting went busted)? What if their service hacked, goes berserk and crashes your copies in Kindle? what if Sprint decides introduce their own *tax* on you?
- A.T.
I really need the battery life of my phone... I don't think its worth it to drain my battery on the go so I can read, I would rather have a Kindle and not have to worry that I'm going to be left drained.
- Frankie Warren
I can read news and short pieces just fine on my mobile phone. I read a LOT of books, though. I think I average nearly 4 or 5 books a month, sometimes more. Trying to read a book on a mobile phone is just not a pleasant experience. The eyestrain alone is too much for me. You won't hear about me selling my Kindle 2 anytime soon. :)
- George A. Roberts IV
George -- I read about 10 books a month, and I find the eyestrain on a smartphone usually to be less than with hardcopy books. The text is crisp and clear; I can set the font to whatever size I like; the text is backlit to whatever setting I choose. And a smartphone is much easier to hold than many of the 800-page bricks that are published these days. Wherein precisely does the eyestrain reside?
- Sean McBride
I've read four 500+ page fiction novels via the iPod/iPhone Kindle app this year. No complaints here! For news I've got the iPhone optimized versions of Google Reader and Friendfeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
That´s exactly my main argument against the Kindle as well. It only does one thing very well and doesn´t replace anything. I´ll rather have a tablet with a screen compromise.
- Thomas Bøhm
i disagree about the one device. when companies try to come up with the one device, it usually fails. the device does many things half as good. i know that is a standard argument, but for me one device is a pie in the sky dream. i have an iphone, and it does a lot of stuff well, but the kindle app is fine for short bursts of reading. overall, i find it limiting -- and the rub for the...
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- Daniel Langendorf
i was trying to go to one device with my blackberry or treo but seem to be drifting back to mulitple devices. I have a kindle that I love and think from a reading perspective is better than any other device.
- Ted Kinzer
After seeing the Kindle app for iPhone & iPod Touch, there is no way a Kindle is seriously considered as a purchase if they ever were.
- Roney Smith
I like the Kindle reader on my iPod Touch, and have read a fair bit on that device. However, the experience of reading on the Kindle 2 itself is still much better. The screen is much larger and easier to read for extended periods of time. And the battery life is FAR superior. Reading on the iPod Touch will kill the battery within a couple of hours -- not enough to come anywhere close to...
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- Christopher A. Wichura
My humble opinion about the new FF UI. You win something and you lose a lot. Sorry, I'm skeptical. Attention! Folks! Attention! My brain, honnestly, can't use that.
agree with that directeur. just noticed that comments get updated in "real time" but the main topic may be lost in the page, so you do not see it
- Olivier
Honestly, this is a disaster. It hurts my eyes to try to follow a sentence that I'm reading as it bubbles up or down based on updates. Even as I'm typing this comment, my comment box is moving!
- Carter Rabasa
Brian, the filters are so basic! Won't work nicely
- directeur
Less information and more action. Then again, the API will work like before (i hope)
- Dani Radu
There's no chance they did "usability testing" with normal people. This is somewhere where Facebook shows that they can implement new techniques, but in ways that are actually pleasing to their users.
- Carter Rabasa
Definitely Carter! I can't USE this THING! I'm sorry, I'm sure they did put very sincere efforts on this, but it's UNUSABLE
- directeur
the UI still lacks a "less" button, clicking more is great, but I should be able to click Yes to gain space
- Olivier
Carter I disagree. So far (and it's certainly too early to tell), I think "normal" people might finally be able to use this thing.
- Jack Baty
Jack, how many subscribers do you have? How active are they? Trust me your eyes ability (and brain's one to filter read, process) are not as big as machines' ones. You are a man.
- directeur
ha ha ! comments are disappearing, some times I don't even have time to read them
- Olivier
I don't follow enough people for it to be annoying. Filters should help. What I do hope is that I'm closer to what would be considered a "normal" user; and for me, the beta is less intimidating and more immediately useful. Admittedly I've got more "using" to do before forming a real opinion.
- Jack Baty
"Funny you should mention film cameras. I just started shooting film again and am considering a new Tinderbox file just for logging camera, developer, and exposure information for each roll. Not so much about the contents of each frame, but how each roll was processed and developed."
- Jack Baty
How's the video quality compare? I bet Apple and Hulu look slightly nicer than Netflix for most people, but Apple is still not going to win this battle.
- Joseph Miller
Agreed. Hell, even the 2.99-3.99 rentals are less interesting
- Jack Baty
@andrei_c I doubt many people care (or even know) whether they are streaming or downloading content. As long as they get to watch, it doesn't really matter especially with broadband speeds as fast as they are.
- Devon Campbell
If I'm concerned about video quality, I'll rent or buy physical media. The stuff I watch instantly via Netflix are movies where quality isn't part of the enjoyment of the film.
- Akiva Moskovitz
He was a good friend of my dad, a nice guy and liked by many. The funeral was standing room only. I'm not sure "rofl" is an appropriate response.
- Jack Baty
Jack: sorry, but i'm sure that it is. Many bowlers have said things like, "just let me bowl one perfect game, then i can go in peace".... or something similar. When Random People on the Internet hear that one lucky soul actually got to go out on a high note, that's cause to chuckle- we all hope we can be so lucky. I understand that this is a personal loss to you, but its an anecdote to the rest of the world: we all just might get to accomplish our craziest dreams, even if at the last moment.
- Chris Hollander
Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us, a man who enjoyed the outdoors, and bowling.
- Lon Harris
from twhirl
jack.. it was a response to what RAP said dear...and it is a good way to go.
- Caroline
mona, tell me what you really think. Don't hold back :p
- Kamath (नमः)
from fftogo
I love mine. And yet, it's for sale. Keeping the MBP instead.
- Jack Baty
I love good rib-eye, and foie gras. I'll skip the caviar. Heck, I am rarely impressed by brand names anyway. So much branded stuff is hype. I mean stuff in general... not just computers.
- Ian May
branded is meant to appeal to your illogical buying impulse -- it is used when logical (like technical options/features of products) motives are same... and hey are eventually same :)
- A.T.
There's no other laptop like the MBA (design wise not spec wise). We can't say the MBA is overpriced until someone else makes a thinner, lighter laptop with the same specs as the MBA for a lesser price. And the writer is clearly not capable of thinking clearly: he thinks MBA is overpriced because he's getting "less" laptop for the price? :D It costs more 'cause its smaller! It's an engineering feat to do a laptop with that specs and not cross thermal, spatial thresholds.
- vijay
I have always loved the idea of using a single, thin n portable device where I could get electronic versions of publications transmitted to it.. be it a magazine or newspaper subscription, or even as I walk past somewhere and get a free publication beamed to it. The kindle, and even sonys offering, just aren't there yet. I guess star trek spoiled me ;)
- alphaxion
Have you actually used one for any length of time? Or explored the myriad of DRM-free options to get content onto the Kindle (FeedBooks, ManyBooks, Project Gutenberg, Archive.org, Creative Commons, etc.)? Even the clever hacks to get automatic delivery of blog feeds as "newspapers", without paying for them through Amazon? The Kindle is actually a pretty open platform. Only the books Amazon sells have DRM on them (and not all of them do - some are secretly DRM free). And the DRM is no worse than iTunes.
- Josh Bancroft
Plus all the innovative features it DOES deliver - the unlimited, no-monthly-fee EVDO service, web browsing, AskNowNow, Audible audiobook and MP3 playback, not to mention the gorgeous high DPI eInk screen and tremendous battery life (weeks with the radio turned off). I think the Kindle gets a bad rap from people who haven't actually used one. But that's just me. I'm a rabid fan. :-)
- Josh Bancroft
The kindle is TOTALLY there for novel and business book reading. At least 70% or more of the books I buy will be on a device like the kindle from now on. We need another form factor, though, to handle technical specs like most programming books, text books, etc... Amazon has something with that in mind coming up next. I don't like the DRM either, but I really don't like cluttering meatspace with dead tree by-products.
- Internet's Tad
Ok forget the DRM. What do you think of the Tech? How can it be improved? What Do you like about it? Where could it be used? Who would use it? These are the questions we want to hear your expert geekyness answer.
- CW™
The DRM is a non-issue for me. The Kindle , in its current form, is an amazing device. I bought it to read books, and I have read more in the past year than I had in the five years prior (books, mind you - I read constantly online). So, I bought it for that purpose, and it serves its purpose amazingly. Can't wait for the new one. ;)
- Andru Edwards
Next time we're in the same town, Chris, I challenge you to a Kindle throwdown. It's not perfect, but it suffers from a LOT of misconceptions. I'd love a chance to set the record straight (and no, I have no stake in Amazon or anything besides being a happy Kindle owner). Do you accept my challenge? :-)
- Josh Bancroft
Indeed. An iPod Touch 8GB, eReader app 'Stanza' w/ the option to upload/download your own ebooks via app beats the Kindle hands down ;-)
- CannonGod
I hated the Next and Previous buttons the first day - always clicking them at the wrong time, but since then I haven't had any problems. I'm not sure I'm a raving fan, but I really, really like my kindle. It's a transformative tech. I don't want to read clunky ole meatspace books anymore.
- Internet's Tad
I have a Kindle and love it mainly because it makes books I otherwise never getting around to reading completely accessible. The form factor is also outstanding and the digital ink screen reads like a real book.
- Brad Bostic
The Kindle rocks. Kicks the tar out of reading on the iPhone. Honestly, that's not even a realistic comparison (I have both.) Downside? The UI for the Kindle is terribly slow. Mine will hang occasionally, needing a reboot. Otherwise, I'm reading much more now that I have one, DRM or not, and to me that's a Good Thing. Can't wait for rev2!
- Jack Baty
Again guys, try reading on your iPhone or Touch for more than an hour or two - serious freaking eye strain. The screen size is all wrong too. I'm not saying it's worth the $350 - but I am saying that it will be ubiquitous when the price dips under $100
- Internet's Tad
I really like right-hand nav. Is it possible to make it an option? I know it's a pain, and it's not that big of a deal, but it would be very nice. I'd love to hear some elaboration on the reasoning that putting nave on the left helps people with wide screens...
Yes. Please, please, please move it back to the right. On the left, it interferes with the flow of reading the feeds. I have wide screens and i prefer the right. At the very least, give me the option. I'm going back back to using standard, non-beta. It's driving me nuts.
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agreed. my mouse is on the right of hte keyboard, tends to stay on the right of the screen. left is out of the way.
- mjc
Exactly. Windows are resizable as I recall, so the wide-screen argument seems unusual.
- Jack Baty
I don't have a widescreen but I like the left size nav better... just my 2 cents :)
- Andre
Yes *please* put the navigation back on the right. My mouse stays to the right and, seeing the nav bar everytime I go to read an entry is awful. Can't it be an option or something?
- Candace
This may not actually be the case, but right-hand nav seems more ergonomically correct for right-handed people, since we probably don't have to move the mouse as far to cross the screen. I'll be the first to say I've done zero research into this, I'm just saying how it feels. Also, I think its faster to scan content when that's the first thing on the left.
- James E. Lee
An option for this would be a good solution for all of us.
- Waldemar Schott
I agree, an option is needed. Personally, nav should _not_ be on the left for left-to-right reading. The most important aspect of friendfeed is the content, not the menu. To reach the menu now, the mouse has to cross the content, which is distracting not to mention requiring farther to travel (notice where your mouse hovers when you scroll the page, likely to the right of the content).
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It's weird because the content doesn't go all the way over to the right so I have all this sort of unneeded whitespace on the right.
- Brandon Titus
i also like the navigation sidebar on the right because i get to read more text on the left hand side without always having to slide my browser window if the navbar was on the left
- imabonehead
Yes, please. Move it back to the right or at least make it an option. It gets in the way as is. Also, as you go further down the page their is all this wasted space on the left.
- Nesta Campbell
I don't like the way the sidebar looks either. Now you can't expand the rooms list and you don't have the services icons from your feed.
- Alejandro
I liked it a lot better on the right, too. I was totally digging the layout before. Too bad it changed.
- Cassandra
I do love the new posting options, though (eg. photos, link.)
- Cassandra
Not only that, but try hovering on the first room's name. For me (Safari) the popup prevents me from then hovering over the room name below it.
- Jack Baty
But why the navigationbar on the left side? There is plenty of unused free space on the right
- Niki Costantini
And what is the "Friendfeed Be" room? Oh, it's just the name being cut off. I don't love it.
- Jack Baty
Noted :) The navbar on the right was causing a number of issues for people. People with large monitors complained it was too far away from the content, which made it harder to navigate. People with small screens complained it was too wide. This design performs well on all screens. Let us know what you think after using it for a bit.
- Bret Taylor
I don't doubt it Bret, and there are nice improvements here. I'd suggest that the folks with large monitors (which include me) simply reduce the size of the window, since that is an option :). As it stands now, no matter what I do to the window I'm stuck with less information than before. I imagine I'll get used to it.
- Jack Baty
Yeah I miss the activity count over there..
- Steve Isaacs
How about a resizable sidebar? As it gets bigger, it automatically shows more information?
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
I like it better now... most of the frequent clicking is in the upper left corner, instead of having to mouse all over the screen to get to stuff.
- LogEx
It's better: the right side is used for user-specific info - I missed that.
- Steve Isaacs
Too narrow, hover popup blocks the other links. Post counts no longer displayed. My mouse lives on the right so *now* I have to move my mouse more. This is fun! :)
- Jack Baty
I think it depends on if you're a lefty or a righty.
- Steve Rubel
Nav should _not_ be on the left for left-to-right reading. The most important aspect of friendfeed is the content, not the menu. Additionally, to reach the menu, the mouse now has to cross the content, which is distracting not to mention requiring farther to travel (notice where your mouse hovers when you scroll the page). http://friendfeed.com/e...
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I liked it SO much better on the right. Content is king, should be to the left. Nav is secondary, should be to the right.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Stop dividing our Friendfeed country ! Put the bar on the right. (Update: can't we have a drag/drop sidebar?)
- Armando Alves
"Especially on a site like FriendFeed, which has quickly become the platform of choice for the web’s least interesting narcissists — and the slow-witted woodland creatures who enjoy grooming their fur"
- Jack Baty
from Bookmarklet
"Of course that didn't last. Getting people to spend significant time in Friendfeed has turned out to be more difficult than expected. Back to enabling comments, not that it makes much difference either way."
- Jack Baty
Regarding the Cuil Launch, aren't we being really tough on them? Think about the expectations that have been piled on them. Sure, some of those expectations have been self-promoted, ouch. I for one will be watching cuil as they iterate and (hopefully) improve... - http://www.cuil.com/
If you manage to get yourself on the main page of every news site in the world, you better be ready for the deluge that follows. This is a success failure on a grand scale.
- Stephen Pierzchala
I dunno. Maybe, but with all the fanfare, what else were we going to do? The thing kind of blows in current form. Neat glimpse, but not even really "labs" quality.
- Chris Brogan
David: Stephen is exactly right. Expectations for a search engine ARE extraordinarily high, but then they should be. Any company that gets $30 million to compete with Google (and hire the PR that they did) should be looked at pretty toughly.
- Robert Scoble
Unexpected load levels following major public releases are the big surprise here, whatever it is they're trying to deliver. Look in the last few days (weeks) at all the overload trouble that cast doubts on the likes of MobileMe & Twitter. Of course, testing the limitations of scalability (and surmounting them) seems to be the brass ring here, but the real story is the visceral response that viral marketing spawns among a widening audience of users outside the "endless September" bubble.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I'm not seeing anything special with Cuil. Has everyone forgotten about MyLiveSearch: http://www.mylivesearch.com/ That was also a supposed Google killer, but at least it does more than Cuil. Search is not a market to attempt to compete in right now.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
Two basic expectations of modern search engines: They're fast and they return good results. Cuil meets neither expectation. That's NOT asking too much.
- Dwight Silverman
Not asking too much. Semantic search is a "big one" that many of is would like. Cuill's "epic FAIL" is their stupidity to not do a (1) alpha-launch, generate buzz by selectively letting in tech bloggers, test their stuff, make bloggers feel good by being in on something early, about 200-500 people (2) private beta-launch, quiet, limited to 5,000 people (3) New York Times launch. - I think their team was focused on the "Stealth approach", not realizing they would shoot themselves in the foot.
- Mitchell Tsai
It wasn't a great day to be cuil. It yields some pretty erratic and not very useful results in a nice looking format. Cute but vacuous won't get it. Search is a power tool, not a fashion accessory.
- Phil Yanov
what got me was the amount of spammy results I got back, considering the seo people haven't had a chance to game them yet... Doesn't seem too promising.
- Janek Mann
"Epic FAIL?" c'mon, give them a week or so to stop being surprised by the response and then let's see if they have a valuable product. Being overwhelmed by the initial response is neither stupid nor indicative of failure. Just me.
- Jack Baty
But considering the names that were behind and therefore the expectations it had carried, not to mention the search engine was a launch, not a beta release, I think we could?
- Jay