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New Blog Post: Feedly Brings New Social Experience to Start Page, Leveraging RSS http://www.louisgray.com/live... @khodabakchian
Peter Efland, Nicholas James, Kol Tregaskes and 45 other people liked this
Everybody should check this out. Even if you're not a Google Reader fan or a typical FireFox user, load FireFox and go to http://www.feedly.com. There's a limited number of downloads of their .xpi plug-in, so it's first come, first serve.
- Louis Gray
I was about to pooh-pooh it until I read the part about how if you share it/read it in Feedly, it shares and marks it read in Reader. That's killer.
- Mark Trapp
crap. I read this as soon as I leave my computer
- Bwana ☠
from fftogo
Thanks Louis, I am checking out http://www.feedly.com looks like a great concept!! How do you find all these cool things?
- Susan Beebe
Just started to use it and I am immediately impressed. This just might be my new favorite reader.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@Susan, I found Edwin when he first wrote "Listen. Measure. Iterate." back in February. http://tinyurl.com/6crhsz We've been trading e-mail ever since. I didn't say the word Feedly or Feeddo for months. :-) Others have different stories.
- Louis Gray
I was trying it with FF 2 for the last 15 minutes. I glossed over the fact (on the feedly home page) that it needs FF3. It seems to install fine on FF2 and does not complain that it needs FF3. Would have been nice if it warned me that it does not run on FF2. In any case, will try it out as soon as I download FF3.
- Atul Arora
I grabbed it. I dig it. I will use it. Maybe RSS just needs to be looked at in a different light.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Kinda lame that it's Firefox only, for what I can tell is only so you don't have to feed it your Twitter/Friendfeed/Gmail/etc. credentials. Can't use fluid with it; will probably forget about it.
- Mark Trapp
Thanks Louis. I just got the .xpi and trying it out. This might be something!
- Kenichi Matsumoto
Frick! NICE!
- l0ckergn0me
Dude, I'm all over this freggin site... What a work of genius..my..head..is hurting...from...such...uber
- Bwana ☠
Now you tell me, when I'm stuck in the Wal-Mart customer service line.
- Phil G
from fftogo
Looks nice, but can't do it... I feel like I'm "cheating" on Google Reader. Plus, many things were giving me javascript errors.
- Vince DeGeorge
Holy cow. A true glimpse at the future: a user agent. Rockin'.
- Chris Baskind
WARNING: Using this added 450 feeds to my gReader!!! Screenshot coming...
- Vince DeGeorge
@Vince, it creates folders for "feedly" on Google Reader, but there shouldn't be any duplication of feeds. Are you talking about net new feeds being added, or just them tracking your favorites?
- Louis Gray
Ok, it's created three folders, z.feedly.favorites, z.feedly.people, z.feedly.seeded. It wasn't 450 feeds, it was 150 in three folders. http://www.flickr.com/photos... I thought it had caused major problems at first, but it looks manageable. I certainly wasn't expecting it... and scared me at first.
- Vince DeGeorge
A warning would be nice from the Feedly folks about this. Not a showstopper, but I think letting the user know will ease the sting of coming on board.
- Bwana ☠
Bwana and Vince, I agree. I told Edwin that during the alpha process, and thought it had been resolved.
- Louis Gray
@vince, @bwana sorry for the scare. There is a warning about that in the first run page but will work on making it more explicit. Also note that the reason why there is a z.feedly.seeded tag is because we are working on adding an un-install procedure which will completely undo the effect of the feedly welcome wizard.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Excellent
- Bwana ☠
Deleted my previous entry when seeing Edwin's response. Edwin, I apologize that I didn't see the warning - I tend to run headlong into things ;). Your quick response from feedback is excellent, which is very important! With that in mind - "no harm, no foul."
- Vince DeGeorge
@atul feedly should work on firefox 2 as well. The reason we are pushing for the firefox 3 angle on the website is because we benefit from a lot of the performance optimizations done by firefox (and we are trying to see if we can leverage some of the momentum generated by firefox3 to get the word out). If you run into any problem on firefox 2, please log a ticket on http://www.getsatisfaction/feedly
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@Mark Trapp you are right: the reason we have been focusing on firefox so far is that it allows us to do real-time aggregation more securely. It also allows us to off-load a lot of the processing to the client and opens the door to supporting xmpp in the future. I am not that familiar with fluid but will take a look (a couple of our users are using feedly on flock).
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@louis. thank you for starting the conversation!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Another user of Fluid here. It supports userscripts, but I'm not sure if it has the sophistication of the Firefox plugin architecture
- Bwana ☠
Working with this for the last thirty minutes. Very impressed. I actually like the feeds showing up in Google Reader. Excellent work Edwin.
- Henry Burger
Wow, seriously how long has this been in the works? Still figuring out all the things it can do and how easily it does them. Very slick
- Andrew Smith
damnit. I have to like it. An idea that I had in the works (the newpaper/magazine style layout) - great work, we'll see how things go.
- Tim Hoeck
Wow, I have over 46000 unread articles.
- Jason Wehmhoener
@edwink, I was just confused on FF2 as to how I should get started. When I tried it out on FF3, I clicked on the circular rss icon that the extension put on my menu bar. I will look for the same icon on FF2 and give it a spin. If I run into any problems, I will log a ticket. I completely understand the rationale for pushing the ff3 angle. My first impression is very positive.
- Atul Arora
just a note, when my FF restarted, I didn't get to see the initial startup page, because I have session restore enabled. It killed the start page. Just look for the circular RSS button next to your address bar.
- Tim Hoeck
Edwin, I got to say, I don't really understand your architectural decisions. You make most of the program local, yet you don't utilize your own storage for application data (instead, you insert all of Feedly's info on recommendations and people into my OPML file, which even if you're warning me I completely missed: it's not obvious). Yet, it's browser based, but I can only use a specific version of one browser (and only if I have the add on installed).
- Mark Trapp
You've got competing metaphors here: if it's browser based, let me use it anywhere. If it's desktop based, don't force me to use a specific browser, and don't use my existing services as your data storage.
- Mark Trapp
fixed. feedly has now a better msg and automated-undo http://edwink.devhd.com/2008...
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@mark it is a browser extension to allow us to be more real-time, not have to touch people's credentials and be able to scale better. But it tries to leverage and integrate cloud services so that it feels more integrates and people can roam.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@mark we heard the point about being more explicit about the Google Reader integration and tried to address it today. The one thing to keep in mind is that although feedly is using the Google reader back end, we are not going after the google reader users (if some find it compelling, great) but we are instead to package all that is good in RSS and social sharing and try to see if we can re-invent a better start page for more mainstream users. This is beta1 and we are not yet there but that is our goal
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Wow. Well done Edwin. I'm super impressed right now.
- nealh
I'm using it since June/July'08 I think and I've always loved it. Nice to finally meet the creator's side after so much pleasure using it. Great review Louis btw, you got it good. ;p I simply didn't know it wasn't widely known. I would've suggested it a long time ago hehe.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Coming Attractions: Inside the Container - http://www.MarkBernstein.org/Aug0801...
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Evernote Blog » Evernote for iPhone 1.2 Gets Note Editing and More… - http://blog.evernote.com/2008...
Sally Church, Sam Allan, Mel Buckpitt and 6 other people liked this
my one frustration with evernote on the iphone is now resolved. extremely important for me. now, if you could just make dragging urls from the browser into the evernote desktop client (mac, for me) or evernote web live and working, i would be in evernote bliss. if there was a way to add a url when browsing on the iphone into a note, that would be cool, too, but not as important.
- Daniel Langendorf
Barack Roll - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Raymond, Mike Hussein Cohen, Jeff Woelker and 38 other people liked this
everyone MUST watch this
- Stefan Hayden
There's so much win in this video.
- James (@willia4)
Total awesomeness. :)
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I want to know who has time to pour through enough video to find the clips. Even though they made "desert" out of "deserve" and other approximations... it is ingeniously done.
- David Muir
hahaha!!
- Ricardo Vidal
Incredible. Absolutely freaking incredible.
- Jared Smith
that's HILARIOUS hahahahahahaha :D
- Robert DeBord
This is the best
- SciFi Ranter Girl
I barely get time to watch videos much, let alone edit that lot together!
- Ian May
super LOLz! i've been barack-rolled!
- .LAG liked that
When that song was new, we in our late teens ridiculed it immensely. It's a good song though.
- Terris Linenbach
Microsoft to sponsor the Apache Software Foundation - http://arstechnica.com/news...
DGentry, McFrugal, Fuad Arshad and 5 other people liked this
Well, this is an interesting turn of events...
- l0ckergn0me
from Bookmarklet
Is that some sort of sick joke?
- Jim Stewart
Was announced last week, and that's when the world started to crumble.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Laptops can be confiscated and searched at US border without cause says report - http://www.engadget.com/2008...
Jack Baty, Marshall Bose, Jeff P. Henderson and 5 other people liked this
"In further evidence of our rapidly eroding civil liberties, the Department of Homeland Security disclosed today that US Customs and Border Protection and US Immigration and Customs Enforcement have the right to confiscate and search a traveler's laptop or other electronic device without any suspicion of wrongdoing" [Wait, wait, wait, wait. They can confiscate without any suspicion of wrongdoing? So if they like my shiny new Macbook, they can take it just because? I'll remember this.]
- Bwana ☠
from Bookmarklet
"The rules -- which we reported on in February -- allow for searches of hard drives, flash drives, cellphones, iPods, pagers, and video or audio tapes, and specify that the agencies can "detain" belongings for a "reasonable period of time," (i.e., as long as they please" [And I thought FICA was bad. This is insane.]
- Bwana ☠
"The DHS says the policies apply to anyone entering the country -- including US citizens -- and claim the measures are necessary to prevent terrorism" [Here we go. Goodbye Freedoms, hello terrorism shroud. Anyone see V for Vendetta?]
- Bwana ☠
This is such effing bullshit. This country of ours is looking more and more like a rotten dictatorship with every passing day. I should know, I lived in one before I came here. And that dictatorship was toppled by a revolution. Let's hope it doesn't take the same to get things back to normal here.
- Raoul Pop
Bruce Schneier weighs in on this, too. http://www.schneier.com/blog...
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
The big question is, are they really looking for terrorist related activity, or are they enforcing the wishes of MPAA and RIAA...
- jcunwired
Doesn't matter either way, Jody, the thing is, they've given themselves this power, and it's a terrible invasion of our privacy and freedom. They shouldn't have this power. It needs to be taken away from them. It's absolutely disgusting to think of some governmentard rifling through my private files and investigating my life like that. My life is my own to live how I choose. I came to this country because I wanted freedom. I didn't come here to be treated like the communists treated me in Romania.
- Raoul Pop
You don't have to initiate travel restrictions if you make traveling so onerous for travelers that they decide to stay put just to avoid the bullshit.
- Steve Lowe
These sorts of changes are a real shame. I am only hopeful that with the change in the White House we will see these sorts of insane rules rescinded. I hope that both candidates see this as a problem that needs to be addressed.
- Sean Brady
Makes me wonder if continuing the Green Card process is really worth it.
- Stephen Pierzchala
my favorite Tweeter EVER - http://flickr.com/photos...
Nick Mutton, raphaeL, Tim FitzGerald and 77 other people liked this
hehe lol :D
- AJ Batac
" I never should've mentioned my high school on Facebook. Surely there's a statute of limitations on paying for abortions" http://twitter.com/firelan...
- Mona Nomura
this guy makes me LOL
- Mona Nomura
awesome
- Nathan Rein
UN-BE-LIE-VABLE! My question... was it cooked or uncooked macaroni?
- Scott Goldblatt
LOL - that dude is hilarious!!
- Peter Efland
from twhirl
He's like an angry John Handey.
- Mark Trapp
How sad.. he;s the dude tat pt his kid into the Montessori education steam. so why is he cribbing ? @Mona, your best tweet eveah ?? joke aside- are you a model for the uneducated in America ? Dudette ,get a life [--tis serious shit that you pointing too ! Solly, just that this zissed me off, one person make a joke on his daugher ( 4-5yrs old) and then another (20-25yr old) claps hands on the fathers pain points... so whos clapping for the 3-5 yr old youngster ?
- Peter Dawson
Ummm Peter - it's a JOKE.
- Tad
yes yes its "ust think he's hilarious." when he puts his daughter into a cesspool. Do I really care about da pointer you post AFTER the fact ?? no -not really !! yeah he may be "hilarious" at w/ever. does that make up for the fact that he is putting is little kid down and that you are actually promo'ing it ?? maybe , maybe not.. but the very virture of your posting this here, speaks a lot of what really amuses you !!! yeah lets get all ugly coyote on this one :)_
- Peter Dawson
@tad, really - tis a joke ? chk the title of the post !!
- Peter Dawson
What we have here is a failure to communicate - You're not supposed to eat the necklace, you're supposed to wear it!
- Victor Ryden
Peter.. YOU asume a) He has a daughter, b) she in actually involved at Montessori, c) She actually made him a necklace, d) you keyboard is missing a few keys, e) He tried to eat a macaroni necklace. The thing up your ass has died, cmon, accept it and have it removed...
- Johnny Worthington
Peter - did you look at his tweet stream? Everything he posts is a joke. It's FUNNY. Haha funny.
- Tad
@Peter, consider your cage rattled
- Nathan Rein
@John, thanks for pointing out "the thing up your ass has died" ,Its your prerogative e to say that. Nonetheless, yo are missing the crux of the discourse . Its not about whos right or wrong, it what's right or wrong that matters !
- Peter Dawson
ROFL @ "Just came to. There's a tiny lump next to me here in the bed. Little buckle shoes sticking out. Dear god I hope it's a leprechaun." http://twitter.com/firelan...
- Mona Nomura
Peter are you alright tonight?
- Tad
@Tad, very interesting .. "Everything he posts is a joke. It's FUNNY. Haha funny.". so its ok to accept and condone jokes of this nature ?? just askin ?.
- Peter Dawson
#tad "Peter are you alright tonight? " NOWAY..."consider your cage rattled " :)-
- Peter Dawson
I agree... yet the crux of your first post was to tell Mona she was wrong for liking said joke. So, as you say, if the statement is right or wrong morally, your argument was distored in just your second sentence by critising the who, not the what.
- Johnny Worthington
Comedy goldmine! Thank you, Mona. I am completely LMFAO.
- Pete Delucchi
Yes Peter - there's nothing at all wrong with jokes like this. It WOULD be wrong if he were serious, but he isn't. It may be that it's just not your thing, and that's ok, however you come across looking kind of naive or something assuming that the guy is joking about real things. Maybe you've never been exposed to this sort of humor?
- Tad
@john, thank you 4 pointing out my deficiencies in syntax. :)- but you get the idea !!
- Peter Dawson
Peter, again: one of his Tweets = " I think I just threw up something I'm going to need later" http://twitter.com/firelan... .... =\ Am I advocating Montessori is BS? No. I just think he's hilarious.
- Mona Nomura
I actually LOL'd! Thanks, Mona
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
This man's Twitter stream = PURE hilarity :) Happy to share, this guy is awesome
- Mona Nomura
Did he try boiling necklace and mixing with Ragu? might help
- Mark Forman
In the spirit of good will, I'm gonna make macaroni necklaces with my daughter tonight.
- Johnny Worthington
Mona get that guy "Joshua Green Allen" to sign up on FF...he needs to spread the love over here... !!
- Susan Beebe
@Tad, "It WOULD be wrong if he were serious, but he isn't. It may be that it's just not your thing, " - Dont get me wrong, there are 27 people who have liked this 'joke' and another 23 comments to this thread. What I am trying to get into is very simple .do these type of jokes really reasonate with the public ( putting your kid down on a macaroni necklace at the expense of a kid (a fathers kids). then therefore to I willl ask all the fathers who 'liked' this thread, would you really post such a comment ?
- Peter Dawson
Susan: I would be afraid to LOL @Peter: I am the product of a Waldorf primary education. My parents, unfortunately only speak Japanese, or they would be Tweeting the same thing...
- Mona Nomura
I wonder if it'll be a different story if it were a bacon necklace with mango beads.
- imabonehead
I need an image please of a Macaroni Necklace ,,,
- johnpiercy
Peter, I have a daughter (2) and I post jokes about her all the time... except... I'm not actually posting them about her. Most of them stretch the truth and my 'joke' daughter is a character, much the same as Joshua's would be (do we even know if he has one). When I post a joke containing her, it is a comedic prop or juxdapostioning tool I use often to saterize myself and has no direct correlation to my daughter. And the joke here was HE was trying to eat the necklace...
- Johnny Worthington
@Mona, FYI only <http://friendfeed.com/e...> :)-
- Peter Dawson
@John, ok 4get the necklace thingy.. but u r in a pseudo mode => " I post jokes about her all the time... except... I'm not actually posting them about her. " . simple terms all i am asking is (a) is it lin good will that parents can make jokes about their kids in pub mode and (b) can one title a joke "best eveah" ?.IMHo, I think that you are ridiculously a kid, albeit your own kid , for the sake of a joke !! Many of yo will dispute what I am thinking..
- Peter Dawson
Peter... cause it's not my kid, it's a characterisation of my kid. A fictious repersentation of my two year old daughter who has the attitdue and fericy reblous nature of a 16 year old girl. The difference is subtle I know but that is what makes the jokes so funny. But not for one second would i tease or put down my own child for a joke.
- Johnny Worthington
Mona ... you survived a Waldorf education too? So did I. Do you miss Eurythmy?
- Nathan Rein
Nathan: I miss the square crayons and circular coloring paper :)
- Mona Nomura
Circular paper?! We didn't have that. We did have the square beeswax crayons from Stuttgart, though
- Nathan Rein
You didn't have circular paper? The ones I coloured on were: circular, rectangle (with rounded edges), triangles, etc. And I can still smell the square crayons when I close my eyes :)
- Mona Nomura
My Fav of his: "Woke up to find three baby teeth embedded in my knuckles. Maybe time to ease up on the drink specials at the Olive Garden."
- Adam Turetzky
Mona - Think the woman in the OBGYN office when the earthquake hit was one of the best 'twits' I can remember. My wife and I were laughing for HOURS
- Charlie Anzman
Michael Nielsen » Shirky’s Law and why (most) social software fails - http://michaelnielsen.org/blog...
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"I’ve heard hackers brag that they could have built Twitter over a weekend. Underlying this boast is a misunderstanding of what is truly impressive. Coming up with Twitter required only a small amount of technical knowledge. The hard part was the social insight to realize such a tool would be useful. This is a social insight the bragging hackers didn’t have."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
The technical know-how required to write the 1st web browsers wasn't hard either... And on the business side, in successful companies, perhaps people like 10% of your product offering, but do you have the guts to give up 90% of your idea? Most beginning CEOs/founders don't.
- Mitchell Tsai
The magic is in the "take up" of new services. I don't think anybody knows why some things take off, and others fail. The reasons seem to be changing too - towards crowdsourcing and so on. We can only sit, watch, and speculate.
- Jonathan Beckett
@Jonathan: we could be doing something useful instead =)
- Frère Noël
@Paul, I hate when I hear things like "Twitter is easy to write". Yeah the base application is, but providing good searching, scalability and reliability are proven to be hard problems. It is so easy to complain, but hard to present solutions.
- Rob Diana
Scaling and reliability aren't that hard either, if you pick the right tools. All the integrations and data feeds are proving to be tedious, though.
- Jason Carreira
@Jason, when I say hard I mean few people have done it successfully and you need to build your applications differently than normal. Once you find the information, nothing seems that hard :)
- Rob Diana
Lot's of people have done it successfully. Think about how many stocks, bonds, futures, etc. are traded every day. Some systems are doing literally 10's of thousands of transactions per SECOND. They're just not Web 2.0 or built on Ruby on Rails.
- Jason Carreira
Jason, I was speaking relatively. In the "world" of developers, there is a small percentage who have scaled something like the applications you describe. There is only a slightly larger percentage who have even tried to build a public website or service to be used by more than a few people. Just trying to keep things in perspective.
- Rob Diana
Anyone who *ever* says "scaling and reliability aren't that hard" has never actually designed, developed, or deployed a new scalable, reliable system. It is damn hard. It was hard for the engineers who built the market data systems (who Jason is insulting by calling their work easy), it is hard for Google, it is hard for Amazon, it is hard for Visa, it is hard for Apple, and it is hard for Twitter.
- ⓞnor
And it is *not* a matter of the "right tools". It is a matter of tirelessly working at a million small details while being ruthlessly quantitative about the big picture. It is a matter of reinventing pieces, time and time again, when it turns out your earlier decisions are biting you in the ass. It is a matter of changing all four tires on a car going 90mph without stopping, and by the way the engine's on fire too. But this is all beside the point, which is that Nielsen here is 100% right.
- ⓞnor
ⓞnor rant++
- Kevin Scott
ⓞnor nailed it. Amen sir.
- Jack Baty
ⓞnor +10
- Josh Wills
I can't agree more with both Paula and @nor. I find armchair architects unfathomable - even more so those who actually have architecture/design experience and yet don't think twice before holding court on somebody else's effort. These guys either haven't learnt anything at all from their supposed experience or are just plain opaque and thick.
- Kamath (नमः)
Wow what a picture. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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if Hitler could only see "his people" now
- Ranjit Mathoda
I super-like this. It's quite amazing to see that large mass of people in front of Barack Obama.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Reuters is reporting 200k came to the speech.
- Rex Hammock
from twhirl
@Ranjit, sorry, but that was a rather stupid comment, +1 to what Michael said
- Gina Häußge
if @Ranjit's point is that it's great to see how far humankind has come in terms of racial/ethnic equality, then I agree. But regardless, kind of an insensitive way to put it.
- graham mudd
Amazing!
- Bill Sodeman
I don't care what anyone says. Both McCain and Bush have to be wicked envious.
- AJ Kohn
Have you seen the original size? Almost everyone has a camera! Whoa!
- AJ Batac
Hitler identified with the Germanic people, Stalin identified with the Russian people. to me all such definitions are kind of stupid, what with us being 5% removed from the chimpanzee. but such people have always tried to establish boundaries and a monolithic identity within such boundaries. a picture/event like this puts a lie to such separations. i wish people, like Hitler, could see how far the future is from the "truth" they saw
- Ranjit Mathoda
graham, i don't think people have come that far in terms of racial/ethnic equality if they are still defining separate races/ethnic groups. i do think we are happy being mostly nicer to people of "other" groups, but that's not quite the same. check out an online dating site and see how many people prefer to date people of a particular group.
- Ranjit Mathoda
Throughout the speech there are jabs at the Germans. I'm surprised they were still clapping when he mentioned "Never Again!".... in Darfur.
- Sam Pullara
Amazing. looking at it in larger view, and THEN in original view. The reduced views don't cut it at all.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan is right. Amazing photo and love all the digital cameras.
- Robert Scoble
great photo, and EVERYONE was taking a picture of Obama.
- Baard @ Pixum
I see a guy holding out a laptop lol
- ◄ani625Ξ
The laptop guy is amazing! Great picture. Funny to see most people looking at the screens of their camera's and not straight at the stage
- Peter van Teeseling
Laptop guy did it for me too
- Toby Graham
And then 100000 + people uploaded the same picture from their point of view to Flickr. It would be interesting to compare them all.
- DivemasterDoug
Obama campaigning in the 58th state. I think that he forgot that we live...over here.
- Kreg Steppe
from twhirl
Great photo
- Jamie
it would be really cool if those 100000 + people uploaded their photos into Photosynth :)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
I would like to think that these politicians feel humble when they stand before a sea of humanity. I hope they remember that they are supposed to be working for our greater good. I can't imagine standing where he's standing.
- Yolanda
Absolutely! A Photosynth database of that event would be awesome!
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
@Shawn: If all of us Americans had speechwriters like Obama, we could make it look like we were as passionate about our global image as he does ;-)
- Kirk Kittell
@Rex Hammock: Yeppers, i was there and the officials said, that about 250.000 people were there. It was really a very awesome event, hey - 250.000 people came to the Berliner Siegessäule and Barack Obama isn't even yet the next president :-). Don't know what happens after the elections ;-)
- Ronald
Man, the brush-lipped Fuhrer is finally gone...this is a sign.
- Kamath (नमः)
It's just so sad. People really want to believe. But Politics is just a dirty game. There's probably no genuine saviour out there.
- john conroy
It was more like people were awaiting a 'rock star' ;-)
- Ronald
Overlooked Records 2008 | Pitchfork - http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node...
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"Our editorial brass put its collective head together and have compiled a list of 20 albums that we're still spinning, yet either were not selected as a Best New Music pick, or isn't something we felt our audience was already pretty widely loving"
- Trent Olson
from Bookmarklet
Pitchfork are often a bunch of self-satisfying pretentious blankity-blanks but I sometimes have to agree with them and some of their touches on this list are spot on. Especially Rhys Chatham.
- Akiva Moskovitz
agreed on your assessment of Pitchfork...but really, most people in the (indie) music biz are kinda like that. don't know Chatham though...will have to check it out. any idea where i could start (since i'm not sure if a 3xCD set is the best to begin with)?
- Trent Olson
Trent, definitely start off with A Crimson Grail (for 400 Electric Guitars). It's astonishingly good.
- Akiva Moskovitz
downloading it now. plus, at 3 tracks, the album costs me under $0.75 to download on eMusic...
- Trent Olson
Exxxxxxxxxxxxxcellent! Let me know what you think about it. I expect three Favorites on Last.fm before the week's out.
- Akiva Moskovitz
so this is the album that everyone kept referring to when talking about the 77Boadrum "event"...makes sense now.
- Trent Olson
This gives me a topic for a last.fm journal post which I shall endeavor to write today.
- Michael W. May
@MWM: let me know when the post is up!
- Trent Olson
oh, it's up :P http://www.last.fm/user...
- Michael W. May
AM Agreed on former taking your word and linking on the latter.
- Mark Forman
FriendFeed comments and clustering - http://qik.com/video/135273
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more stuff here : - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Dawson
and more here http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Dawson
very interesting conversation and point Scoble. definitely keep the goal of the product what the user wants. sometimes on friendfeed I ask for recommendations to the general public and other times I want to communicate with just my network. Users just need to be able to define the way they share content on friendfeed.
- Randy Ksar
I feel like the first half of this video is right on but I disagree with some of the assumptions, and proposed solutions, in the latter half. As I've said several times, I didn't post the link with the intention that 'only my 5 friends' would discuss it. Because you were involved in the original conversation, that conversation was bubbled up to 16,000 users already, plus however many...
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- Kevin Fox
Not that there was anything *wrong* with the conversation, but it wasn't the content that I wanted to advocate to my own followers. By sharing it, I started a conversation with a much smaller group of people. This is the nature of FriendFeed. From that beginning the audience for that conversation grows organically around the friend circles of those who participated in my conversation....
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- Kevin Fox
Let's look at this a different way. Say that someone I don't know is going to see the new Batman movie, and he gets some friends to go see it, you (Robert) are a friend of his and are going to see it to, and send out a twitter saying 'Hey, I'm going to go see Batman with Mike'. Now say I read that Twitter and think 'Hey, I'd like to see that movie too, but the only person who I know in...
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- Kevin Fox
Audience matters. 'FOAFing', the feature of bubbling up the content that your friends have commented on, is a very important element of FriendFeed because it lets you see, via a mutual friend's actions, content that wasn't explicitly shared with you. Just as important is that FOAFing only expands the conversation one degree in any direction. If Robert's friend shares something and...
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- Kevin Fox
If I had merely commented on Michael Markman's original conversation, that conversation would not have bubbled up to my friends because i don't know Michael, and only saw the content because Robert commented on it and I know Robert. This '2-degrees limit' is what keeps FriendFeed discussions from becoming Reddit, Slashdot, or YouTube discussions, keeping both their quality and social...
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- Kevin Fox
The model of FriendFeed where superconnectors connect not only people and ideas, but also connect conversations into one big ball, is one that is far, far noisier than what we have today. This is not a good thing. However, this is *not* to say that duplicate content can't be handled better. If, due to my social connections, I can see two different conversations about the new Batman...
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- Kevin Fox
I don't need the noise of 6 conversations amidst people I don't know, talking about a movie that my friends are already talking about. And since my mom subscribes to me, but isn't subscribed to you or Ammy, she only sees the one I'm participating in; the one with people she knows, or at least has heard me talk about. As an enemy of noise, I assume you'd agree that it's not optimal for...
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- Kevin Fox
Now the area for improvement is in how to display those N conversations around the same topic that I *can* see. In my case, I'd like to be able to be aware of and absorb those two conversations aroundt he same topic in a unified fashion, even if some people in one conversation can't see the people in the other. In Robert's case there are 8 conversations, and the need to reduce the clutter becomes even more pressing.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: good points. But we need a way to signal to the world ""I know this is being discussed elsewhere but I am willfully creating a new node so that only my friends can discuss this." clicking that rule should lock out super connectors and should turn of friend-of-a-friend (both should be off for only a day or two so an organic conversation in a micronode can develop first).
- Robert Scoble
For those who don't know, Kevin Fox is the designer behind FriendFeed and is one of the best designers that exists in the software industry (he did a ton of Google stuff).
- Robert Scoble
We need http://labs.digg.com/swarm for Friendfeed. BINGO! Go find Kevin Rose and get him to kick down the code to the Friendfeed crew. Seriously.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
The ability to create user groups and filter conversations within a group along with a simple "mute" button would help a great deal
- João Almeida
from twhirl
Well said, Kevin. Much better than the mess I was trying to get across in the mashable thread about this.
- Mark Trapp
Good write up Kevin. I agree with both you AND Scoble. Consolidation of content will inevitably lead to "first" posts. To me, the issue was with Robert saying "We're already talking about this item here:" vs something friendlier like "Also discussed here:" Had he done that, it wouldn't have come across as 'You're doing it wrong'. 'Hide' is ff's best feature and must be promoted as such.
- Andrew Smith
...but isn't that what the 'hide' button is for? *added: Andrew, we added our comments at the same time LOL
- Mona Nomura
Great minds Mona :)
- Andrew Smith
Thanks for the praise, Robert (to which I reply with an 'aww shucks'). The idea of letting people 'block out' superconnector FOAFing is interesting, but would probably be better tackled by a sufficiently smart system, rather than by making a user make the call. If today's discussions are any indication, it would be difficult to relate the purpose of this control to the layuser without...
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- Kevin Fox
When a superconnector comments on one person's shared item just to say that another person shared the same item on the other side of their social sphere, the *only* people who get access to a conversation they didn't already see are people who are subscribed to me and not to you, and it feels strange when people who follow me-not-you are being diverted by someone they don't follow to a...
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- Kevin Fox
...isn't that what the private feed option is for?
- Mona Nomura
Kevin: anyone who is a friend of yours is a friend of mine! :-) I also didn't know that FoF feature only goes one level deep.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): I'd say that one level is enough... Imagine all the star-network arround one person, and then the foaf star-networks generated by every leaf of the first network! That makes things go "fractal". The solution to this IMHO -and I hope Kevin et. al. are listening :)- is the ability (also exposed in the API) to search for entries by URL.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Robert, that FoF is only one layer deep is much easier to notice when you're following less than 200 people. You could do a little experiment and create a FriendFeed acct where you only follow 50 or so people you're really interested in and then compare what you see there vs. your main acct. It would be interesting to know how the experiences were different.
- Robert Seidman
directeur , it has to be search by canonical type for the URI . We also get the same URL /URI being seeded by Twitter, Blogs and what not.. RSSmeme does a good job at that !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
when is Qik coming to the iPhone?
- Rob Fuller
Mona the Private feature is so your boss or co-workers can't spy on you...
- Susan Beebe
LOL Susan I would DIE if my boss ever found out I was on FF. I haven't even accepted his FaceBook request!
- Mona Nomura
@Peter Dawson (slashpd): Agree! :) But heh, we just have to start from something... I implemented for example "hidding by url" in NoiseRiver just to reduce the noise about redundant posts pointing to the same url. It works fine but how I would like to have the possibility to have -at least- all the entries pointing to the same url! This would offer us the ability to collapse, group and merge comments clusters so easily!
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Mona - Just chatted with your boss .... Oh nevermind ... tell you about it later
- Charlie Anzman
I follow 490 people including Kevin and Robert. I saw Robert's comment on Kevin's conversation early in that conversation. What I don't understand is how those long conversations disappear in my feed, then randomly reappear. I am following too many people? I really notice this when I go to Best of Day and find long conversation I did not know existed.
- Russellreno
Russellreno: I haven't quite figured out that algorithm either, but I think it means that one of your friends has commented on that cluster or liked it. After a while that person stops having "votes" to move the item up, so a new one of your friends has to discover it to move it up to the top of your view. I might be wrong, though, cause I still haven't quite figured it out.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I really like your solution of FF collecting all of the conversations around a piece of content. It would be interesting to see the conversations that popup around a single Google Reader share or Reddit entry.
- Bryan Clark
I understand Kevin's point about not wanting to smush together comments from a thread of your friends with other threads from people you don't know. However it seems Like FriendFeed could monitor duplicate shares to help you discover new people you might want to befriend, that they share many items in common with items that you shared or commented on.
- DGentry
The default list of recommended people to follow is, for me, more of a do-not-follow list, because I already know I'm going to run into their posts or comments at some point. Auto-filtering, of a sort. The bigger problem for me is the bubbling of content on FF is based purely around activity. I'd like a way to bubble content in the stream I see based on my interests or specific friends interests, so more active but less-relevant stuff doesn't churn up & blow my chances of seeing/following the better stuff.
- abacab
Ajaxian » jQuery: Sparklines Plug-in - http://ajaxian.com/archive...
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McCain: Two gays only count as one parent, therefore they shouldn't be able to adopt - http://rawstory.com/news...
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"In response to a question from a reporter about a quote in which Sen. John McCain said he didn’t believe in gay adoption, the Arizona senator seemed to suggest gay couples who adopt children only constitute a single parent and therefore shouldn’t be able to adopt."
- Trish R
Are you serious? Oh my goodness.
- Michelle Martinez
I think the statement is more offensive to single parents than gay couples.
- Trish R
Trish - agreed! I don't think McCain thought that one all the way through. But what does "seemed to suggest" mean? ... ok read the article. So apparently McCain actually does not recommend anyone outside a traditional husband-wife couple from adopting. Wow.
- Phil G
He could be just a natural idiot or this could be early signs of dementia. Either way I hope he doesn't become the next president, The world is in enough trouble.
- Brian Sullivan
@brian does or doesn't?
- Nick
Doesn't -- makes a difference in the meaning of the post I guess ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Yeah, I don't think he "seemed to suggest" anything. He said it, plain and clear. I was just copying the quote from the story.
- Trish R
@Paul L. McCord Jr Even if you are personally offended by homosexuality, how can you equate two human beings to one? The math doesn't work.
- Sia Stewart
I don't understand your comment, Paul. What's dishonorable about providing a loving home for a child?
- Trish R
McCain homoFEAr is alive, yes lets punish the child
- Fred Grott
Anything for a wedge issue. McCain would love to run on anything other than his party's track record. Gay adoption? Just the ticket.
- Chris Baskind
Just ripping another page out of the Karl Rove playbook.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wow - I'm dumbfounded. Next thing you know, he's going to say that Obama shouldn't be President because he's only 3/5ths a person....
- George Smith
Paul, what's dishonorable about being homosexual?
- Tad
Paul: How can you state that homosexuality being disgusting is a 'fact'? You're not citing any evidence to support your position... Finding another word to describe your bigotry doesn't make it any more true, or make you seem any less ignorant. As for McCain being as left-wing as Obama, that just emphasises how detached from reality you are.
- Alexander Carlill
Well, I'd guess that Paul finding homosexuality disgusting IS a fact. And I'm not sure that there's something wrong with that. What's wrong, though is attempting to use government force to deny homosexuals the same rights as everyone else.
- Tad
I dunno, man. Have you ever seen two guys kiss? GRODY!!!!!! [And, yes, turn your humors on. [And, yes, I hate emoticons so much I'd rather type out all of this stuff than use one. [I have no idea why I used square brackets instead of parentheses, though. [Hi, Mom!]]]]
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: I think you just summed up Paul's entire thought process on the issue.
- Alexander Carlill
"This is not homophobic, but fact" -- not to pile on, but that kind of comment is based on emotion, not fact.
- Cee Bee
Tad, truth. We need to finish oppressing women first. The homosexuals can wait.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Blacks could do with some putting down as well, they're getting presumptuous. A coloured president? Come on.
- Alexander Carlill
homosexuality is not bad by itself. But with the wider acceptance of same gender sexual preference /rights. I think that many of them "flaunt" themselves in public, just b'coz they can -kinda thing. Now that is DISGUSTING !! to me its the same thing as a rich woman showing of all diamonds .. jus because she has them..
- Peter Dawson
Or heterosexuals walking around with infants? Actual living, screaming, eating, drinking, urping, pooping proof of their sexuality and gender preference? How dare they.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Jesus Christ, they've been oppressed for a while now... I think the least we can do is let them flaunt themselves a little.
- Alexander Carlill
Peter, what do you mean by "flaunt themselves in public?" I don't have a problem with seeing a gay couple together, holding hands or being openly affectionate with each other. However, it offends me just as much to see a hetero couple groping each other in public.
- Trish R
Statements like Paul's always make me think of repressed homosexuality.
- AJ Kohn
AJ: Paul just dreams of being able to flaunt who he really is.
- Alexander Carlill
@Alexander: :) American Beauty style eh?
- AJ Kohn
Stupid gay people and all their existing and stuff.
- Tad
"Flaunting," of course, meaning you're not lying about who you are, hiding, or living in fear of exposure.
- Chris Baskind
AJ: Looks like it.
- Alexander Carlill
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - Hamlet
- AJ Kohn
Paul definitely isn't a lady, though. He's a real man's man, the Bogart of FriendFeed.
- Alexander Carlill
C'mon, now. No need to ridicule. It's one thing to disagree with someone and another to be rude.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Paul: Against nature? Not exactly: http://www.sciam.com/article... But, even if it were "against nature," so are wearing clothes, driving cars, etc. etc. depending on how you define "nature."
- Shannon Jiménez
the Log Cabin Republicans won't be pleased
- Robert Hafer
I stopped using Log Cabin syrup because of those guys.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Geez. All this while I thought people like this existed only in The Onion! I need to grow up to the real world i guess...
- Yuvi
Backing up an iPhone 2.0 device every time you sync is inelegant at best. Not to mention time-consuming. Update please!
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agreed - should be incremental not full at best
- mike "glemak" dunn
Why didn't I think of this first No. 82932343298 SO cool! - http://wrongdistance.com/...
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Did you know that you were Charlie-ized today? http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008...
- Charlie Anzman
Heh
- Charlie Anzman
I'm honoroed! Thank you Charlie! :)
- Mona Nomura
congrats, Mona!
- Kenichi Matsumoto
ありがとぉ〜, Kenichi!
- Mona Nomura
wow, that's neat!
- Susan Beebe
Love it!
- l0ckergn0me
I love this! Thanks for the link!
- Daynah
Wow. Simple, but I really like it.
- Derek
cool!
- Dieter Schwarz
Simple is usually the best =)
- Mona Nomura
Mona - I was thinking the same thing. =)
- Franklin Naval
YouTube - Black Sabbath - Iron Man - http://youtube.com/watch...
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It shook me at end of movie when theses chords began blaring out of speakers...
- Mark Forman
from Bookmarklet
I haven't heard this in ages... I used to love playing this to make my family notice
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
MWM-Actually this stuff used to creep me out when it first came out. Not so much this song as much as the song Black Sabbath. Great music to make parents take notice :P
- Mark Forman
Mark, you just keep bringing on the hits, man! I was but a wee lad when I set the kitchen table on fire while this played on the radio. ;-)
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
Seriously, though, my whole extended family had an eclectic mix of musical tastes. My grandparents, aunts and uncles were more traditional Spanish/AfroAmerican/Caribbean music + Old World, but my cousins introduced me to Metal, Rock and Roll and Pop. My parents were weird and liked Disco.
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
PJ-some disco was good especially if you like dancing. Dancing is good practice after all :D
- Mark Forman
I love the Ozzy Osbourne live version, with Randy Rhoads at the guitar! (Tribute to Randy Rhoads). Reminds me when I played this whole live... once a day, back in 1988 (?). Thanks for the 'souvenir' ;-)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thierry-I was thinking recently why Ozzy's own stuff more to my liking. It dawned on me-Randy's sound was positive and upbeat-a perfect contrast to Ozzy's conflicted sometimes downer lyrics. Sabbath was all kind of dark.
- Mark Forman
I love this song, but now everytime I hear it I think of the old Bill's Records and Tapes commercials on the radio. "Bill's Bill's Bill'sBill'sBill's Thirty-eight thirteen Spring Valley!"
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
god bless Tony Iommi, living proof that cutting your fingers off can actually MAKE your career as a guitarist!
- Iain Baker
thanks for that acid flashback - I'd forgotten where I had left it :)
- Steven Hodson
Kinda sad, but I wouldn't know this song if it weren't for Guitar Hero.
- Alan Le
Alan-Kudos to Guitar hero for keeping people exposed to good music. Guitar Hero is replacing radio or MTV at doing this.
- Mark Forman
Fun childhood memory: putting the Black Sabbath 8-track into a 2XL (remember those? little quiz robot toys?) and turning the lights off. 2XL's eyes would flash red as it blared "IIIII AMMMMM IRRONNN MAAANNNNN". Hysterical.
- John Frenette
from twhirl
John-8 tracks never owned one but those were sick fun! Remember quadrophonic?
- Mark Forman
Speaking of quadrophonic sound, here's a blog post I was reading recently: http://dinosaursandrobots.com/2008...
- Vincent X
Vincent-ooh marantz was the gold standard back in the day!
- Mark Forman
Improv Everywhere's Human Mirror - http://improveverywhere.com/2008...
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Why Nerds are Unpopular - http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds...
Cheryl, Sarah Perez, Czar and 13 other people liked this
This is a great read.
- Phil G
from Bookmarklet
Too tired to read such a long post. Especially as we nerds already know why we're unpopular - it's because norm's fear us, obviously. :-)
- Slappy Line
Nerd? Me? Come on... I can prove you with an algorithm that I'm not a nerd!
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I'm not a nerd, but some of my friends are.
- Sarah Perez
Come on guys! I will tease you with this quote: "The key to this mystery is to rephrase the question slightly. Why don't smart kids make themselves popular? If they're so smart, why don't they figure out how popularity works and beat the system, just as they do for standardized tests?" Interested now?
- Phil G
geek > nerd > dork > dweeb > goober
- Hutch Carpenter
Very smart! :)
- Angela Bull
from twhirl
A bit of over- analysis. Interesting, though. Also, I think, the analysis is warped by his personal experience. I was nerdy and outcast far before age 11.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
it's a very good read. very thoughtful. i like it. however, i know so many people who fall into the "nerd" group that aren't particularly smart -- they just like anime, and crap like that -- that the generalizations don't really work for me. i get the sense there's a lot of exorcism of the past going on in this essay
- Nathan Rein
Old one. I read it when I was in high school - helped me a lot :)
- Yuvi
I haven't seen it before, Yuvi. And the internet didn't exist when I was in high school. Well.. ok, it DID, but I wasn't at MIT or Caltech.
- Phil G
my favorite lines: The problem is, the world these kids create for themselves is at first a very crude one. If you leave a bunch of eleven-year-olds to their own devices, what you get is Lord of the Flies. Like a lot of American kids, I read this book in school. Presumably it was not a coincidence. Presumably someone wanted to point out to us that we were savages, and that we had made...
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- Eric Eldon
We didn't have that social problem in school back in the old country. I just had different preferences for what I wanted to do in my spare time and didn't hang out with everyone else that much.
- Morton Fox
Money quote: "What bothers me is not that the kids are kept in prisons, but that (a) they aren't told about it, and (b) the prisons are run mostly by the inmates. Kids are sent off to spend six years memorizing meaningless facts in a world ruled by a caste of giants who run after an oblong brown ball, as if this were the most natural thing in the world. And if they balk at this surreal cocktail, they're called misfits." LOL
- Karim
I really want to re-make "The Prisoner" now, only set in a suburban high school. NERD: Who are you? JOCK [pointing to number on football jersey]: I am number two. [hands jersey to geek] You are number six. NERD [throwing down jersey] I am not a number! I am a free man! JOCK: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! (And the show closes with a locker door SLAMMING across the face of a nerd.)
- Karim
I hated high school and though I was one of the 'popular kids' it was too much effort to uphold my 'reputation/image' etc., which became too much effort. So I was myself. But people talked about me behind my back, I was called "nerd, geek" it was awful lol
- Mona Nomura
New feature: The "Clip to Evernote" bookmarklet now auto-completes existing tags! Learn more about the bookmarklet: http://twurl.nl/op552o
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20 Abandoned Cities and Towns from Around the World | WebUrbanist - http://weburbanist.com/2008...
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"There are many reasons why cities are abandoned; some, like the ghost towns of the American West, have become tourist destinations while others have been condemned or simply forgotten. These 20 abandoned cities of the world share an eerie, haunted quality that is part of what makes them so fascinating."
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
That top picture looks like a screen shot from wall*e.
- Jason Toney
Haha, that walled city is a trip. I'm surprised it doesn't have Chernobyl, Ukraine or Centralia, Pennsylvania on the list. Weird.
- Mark Trapp
Do We Need Weekends? - http://feeds.harvardbusiness.org/~r...
GlennIsaac, AJ Kohn, Brian and 6 other people liked this
She makes a point. From a business point of view, we barely have weekends (I just checked office email on a holiday...), But from a mental health point of view, we need blocks of time to "reset". There's a reason labor leaders of the past fought so hard for shorter weeks.
- Sprague D
still not sure how the week wasn't split into 4 days for the work week and 3 days for the weekend, how come 5 and 2? Isn't going halfway human nature?
- Lou Paglia
@Lou, I'm with you -- I find 4 long days and 3 off is close to perfect.
- Sprague D
Everyone needs down time. Unfortunate many individuals and most major corporations no longer recognize it. Even workaholics needs a break from time to time.
- Charlie Anzman
Four long days then a three day weekend sounds good for those who want it, but I think that this idea risks putting us all in a position where workers who want to take their two days off back-to-back are frowned upon. In my experience, single days off spread throughout the week are useless- a single day off is enough time to either unwind or get your non-work related chores done, but not both.
- Mike
yes. I need them. but think corps stick with 5-2 because schools do also.
- Rob Williams
My life's goal is to live 6 Saturdays and a Sunday, and to bring as many people as possible along with me.
- Craig Eddy
Also, I know my productivity drops as the workday continues, and by the 7th hour or so, I'm ready to go home. How productive would most people be during the last hour of a 10-hour day?
- Brent Newhall
Ummm... In a word, yes.
- Phil Gomes
That is a pretty big assumption that most people work in isolation. People work too much as it is, letting them control when they are off especially when it might not overlap their co-workers will only make things worse.
- Scott Watermasysk
from NoiseRiver
this is a good point, I'm totally fine with the 5 day week, but why M-F? I kind of like the 'flex-time' the us fed employees where you can get an extra day off every other week, but it is still confined to the M-F work week
- nick carrasco
To me it's not about how much time, but how efficient you are with your time. Too many people working longer, not smarter. People need time away to recharge and bring life experience to work interactions. Do we need weekends? Yes. But we need more than that ... 60-80 hour work weeks simply don't pan out IMO.
- AJ Kohn
What Wesley Clark said. How the TV news covered it. Watch the video, back to back. - http://www.reddit.com/goto...
Baard @ Pixum, Jack Baty, Sean McBride and 6 other people liked this
I liked it, in that I hated it
- Marc Chung
Wow, did any of the commentators actually watch Clark's statement? Amazing.
- Dennis E. Hamilton
I hate FOX news. I mean Faux news. I mean Faux crap.
- Grant Gochnauer
Take the perspective of an ordinary American who does not follow the news and read the newspaper, when they watch FOX news the only message that they can take is that Wesley Clark is questioning the patriotism of John McCain. FOX news has in effect achieved what it wanted all along.
- Shakeel Mahate
An argument could be made that neoconservative billionaire Rupert Murdoch (the owner of Fox News) is the most destructive personality ever to afflict American politics and the American people. At some point the victims of his mischief (pretty much all Americans) are going to want an accounting.
- Sean McBride
Why Michael Arrington is More Respectable Then BoingBoing - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Jack Baty, Jonathon, Khyle and 4 other people liked this
http://ismikearringtonadick.com/ 'nuff said
- Alan Le
I agree... and yet BoingBoing seems to be far worse.
- Stefan Hayden
Aren't we comparing Hitler and Mussolini here?
- Cyndy
but I'd be surprised if you told me Mussolini was worse... though I do like to avoid Nazi comparisons in general.
- Stefan Hayden
Godwin'd after 3 comments, that's got to be a record.
- cmiper
Classic.
- Jonathon
@cmiper :-D
- Raoul Pop
they've done a lot of stuff to ruffle features... at least for me this is the worst.
- Stefan Hayden
Retweeting @nathansmith: Google can now crawl Flash. The SEO game just got a whole lot more interesting. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008...
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FriendFeed iPhone interface - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
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Using it right now on my iPod Touch. :)
- Raoul Pop
@Scoble: let me know what you think. I know you use FF a lot on your phone, and you are quite a power user, so I have a feeling you will have a strong opinion and/or notice things we left out.
- Bret Taylor
Finally, it's here!
- Philip Ryan Johnson
from twhirl
I know you guys aren't out to compete with twitter directly, but putting that post text box at the top of the interface removes my last reason for twittering.
- Robin Barooah
looks great but interested to know why you chose to remove the hide function. It would seem well suited to mobile browsing and removing the noise a little more on the small screen
- Jon Dillon
Awesome job; renders well on my phone (a Moto Q9c) too
- Benjamin Golub
Wish I had an iPhone :(
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
@Jon: You're right, we should add that back in.
- Bret Taylor
renders perfect. clicking youtube videos just work as intended... Here's a quick request. Search is at the bottom and scrolling endlessly to reach is a bit boring. Can you guys insert an anchor for a quick access to page bottom? And another anchor there for teleporting back to top.
- Berk D. Demir
from twhirl
Niiiice! Thanks guys.:)
- m.0
Perfect for the sidebar of Firefox
- João Almeida
from twhirl
again, enjoy the pic :) and the interface even more!
- MG Siegler
Very nice. I'm also posting from my iPhone. FF lends itself well to mobile use.
- Chris Baskind
The anchor to jump to the bottom would be nice. Tip: On any web page you can tap the 'status bar' at the top of the screen to jump up to the top of the page.
- Kevin Fox
Bret, trying it now.
- Robert Scoble
Hhhhhhhhhoooooolllllllyyyyyyyyyyy jjjjiiiiiimmmmmmmmmyyyyyy. This is cool. 15 Likes for FF team!
- Robert Scoble
works nicely
- Jamie
I don't want to take credit for this or anything, but I just did ask about this today. I'm kidding by the way.
- Johnny Baker
This works REALLY WELL in a sidebar or Fluid App site specific browser. WAY better than the googlegadget URL we've been using. This interface in Fluid is my new favorite way to interact with FriendFeed. It's teh Awesome! Thanks! :-)
- Josh Bancroft
this is AWESOME - posting from my touch!
- Charles Hudson
Excellent. Works like a charm.
- Jonathon
A much needed improvement. This will be awesome on a 3G iPhone as well.
- Chris Rodgers
i'd still like to see the Comment/Like buttons made a little bit easier to hit. They have close proximity to the article link and using a finger isn't as accurate as a cursor.
- Jamie
Congrats. This "just works".
- Amir Gharaat
Yeah, I just started using friendfeed today and can't see how you guys/gals did without this spiffy interface. Rocks!
- blastedblog
It looks fantastic, thanks guys it's a great job. FriendFeed is now even more useful.
- fbrunel
I would love the option to run links through the Google transcoder. FFtoGo has that and it's invaluable.
- Steve Rubel
You can also use http://tiltview.com to view the iPhone version of the site from your computer or other mobile phones . You need to select iPhone as a mobile type.
- seman
Love it! As soon as I open up the MBP I'm going to fire up Fluid.app and make a menu app with the iPhone interface.
- Ryan Cates
Seesmic videos could theorically been played on an iPhone. The Seesmic API also provides a link to the video in MP4, that's would be awesome to do that in the FriendFeed iPhone interface.
- fbrunel
@semen just use http://friendfeed.com/i on your desktop browser, FluidApp, etc. No need to emulate the iPhone browser.
- Josh Bancroft
Why do the "comment" and "like" links the load after the rest of the page? I almost missed them with EDGE's slow data.
- Frankie Warren
awesome! Anyone else want a bit more space around the "comment" and "like" links? I mis-poked on my first attempt.
- Kelly Norton
So awesome, great work! I love it. I'm sure you're aware but longer (horizontally) posts, such as those with multiple photos, do funky things to the layout.
- jakebf
@Jake, et al: we will do some work for posts with a lot of media to make it work better. Thanks for the feedback.
- Bret Taylor
It looks like the UAT testing with Scoble and team worked marvelously well - nice job Bret!! :*)
- Susan Beebe
Finally! I love it, great job, guys.
- Guillermo Esteves
Bret: found one thing missing: "Hide." Where did it go?
- Robert Scoble
using it now. Perfect!
- shaun mclane
I guess I am in the minority. Thanks for letting us go back to the old version. :-)
- Michael Carter
nice. Testing comments right now!
- Ben Gracewood
I am back to the old version too. I miss Everyone tab, Search, and Hide features
- Robert Scoble
i agree with one of the comments. why a separate blog to capture comments - get them all using FF. easier to follow discussion. iphone interface looks great - i think i'm going to find myself using it a lot on my phone
- naveen
need's hide.
- Thomas Hawk
Awsome! It just needs search and it would be perfect! As far as the old interface went, it was pretty good for the iPhone as well.
- darnell
@Scoble: thanks for the feedback. They were known problems, but I think we can find the space to fit them in. Search is at the botto of every page, FYI.
- Bret Taylor
Very nice. Much prefer it to FFtogo ...
- Patrick Jordan
Very nice. However, on the iPhone it's very easy to jump to the top of the page (just tap the top bar) and very hard to get to the bottom of a long page (lots of scrolling). Can search be moved to the top?
- Stephen Mack
Very nice. Makes it much more useful on my iPhone. Like the picture option...
- simonpure
I agree with Stephen about "search". It's been quite the workout on the thumbs.
- m.0
Like the FF iPhone site, wish they would implement the same "hide" options as the full FF site.
- Joe Perrin
Soylent Green - http://www.blockbuster.com:80/catalog...
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I've watched several movies recently that had a sort of 70's flavor to them.. soylent green, superman, repo man, mad max, a clockwork orange, the original andromeda strain.. some of them can be cheese and the effects are crap compared to today, but the movies have a certain ranginess and convention that is missing from modern films.
- Phil G
Of that group? Well, I really liked the original Andromeda Strain and Clockwork Orange was a landmark book *and* movie.. just a movie though, without any book influences, I agree with your choices.
- Phil G
If you thought Soylent Green was good, you should definitely have a crack at the book on which it was based; Harry Harrison's "Make Room, Make Room" is a beautifully crafted snapshot of a world in decay, and contains a sense of hopelessness and desperation that I think the film falls far short of conveying. I think it is Mr. Harrison's greatest work.
- Slappy Line
To be honest, I have to be in the right mood to watch most 70's sci-fi, as it's generally rather heavy on visual imagery and mood music, while being light on conversation and actual plot (apart from the obvious exceptions, such as bladerunner and superman). For real, seminal classics, I think one should look back a little further. My three all-time favourite sci-fi classics are "The Day The Earth Stood Still", "Invaders from Mars" and, of course, the most epic of them all, "This Island, Earth".
- Slappy Line
Slippy - Thanks for your thoughts! I love Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat series.
- Phil G
Good recommendations, Jason. I have watched many of those.. haven't seen Dark Star, Zardoz or Silent Running though.
- Phil G
"Silent Running" is a must. A bit dour, though the astromech 'droids have their comic moments; you can see where R2-D2 came from. Lots of 70s flavor, from the Joan Baez songs to the American Airlines logos.
- Karim
All good suggestions but don't forget one of my 70's favorites, "Westworld". http://www.imdb.com/title... Written and directed by Michael Chrichton.
- Kevin Shannon
And this 1971 (Made for TV) classic directed by Spielberg before he was Spielberg http://www.imdb.com/title... "Duel".
- Kevin Shannon
Abby - not only a '70s sci-fi movie thread, but one started by me adding my blockbuster rental history to friendfeed. And I didn't do it for a really long time, thinking that nobody would care about it
- Phil G
I was at a conference in DC 2 weeks ago. One night they did an off topic Birds of Feather session on Science Fiction. There were about 30 people and there were 4 guys that were self proclaimed experts. No one could get a word in. This is why FF is great. Everybody gets to talk.
- Kevin Shannon
Abby -- something shiny made of people? LOL
- Phil G
@Abby - Please keep talking. This is a good discussion. I assume we can branch out of the 70's. Slippy mentioned all time best sci-fi flicks. I would have to add "Metropolis" a 1927 silent sci-fi which has always been my all time favorite. http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Kevin Shannon
@Kevin - oh man, how could I forget Westworld. Yul Brinner reprising his Magnificent Seven character, well, magnificently. I've yet to see Metropolis in it's entirety, but I suppose I should look it up as, I believe, it's well and truly out of copyright.
- Slappy Line
Hey. Do we have a movie discussion room yet?
- Mitchell Tsai
Thomas Hawk has a Movies room http://friendfeed.com/rooms..., but not much there yet. If we can get some discussions going, we could branch into "Movies - 70s", "Movies - Action", etc... I'd love to have some of the Los Angeles movie community here.
- Mitchell Tsai
I just created a public "Book vs Film" room and invited all of you who commented or liked on this article. Hope y'all don't mind!
- Slappy Line
Already there, my friend!
- Phil G
If you're going to see Metropolis, and you can't find a live showing then you want to get this DVD from Kino http://www.kino.com/metropo.... I go to a local Cinema Arts Center once a month to see a silent movie with live accompaniment. Last month they showed a restored 35mm print of Metropolis. I was on vacation :-( I was sad, but the Dominican Republic made me forget my misfortunes.
- Kevin Shannon
laughing cause i forgot about Zardoz...then it all came back to me... whoa, that was a time warp! LOL
- Susan Beebe
So glad others dug A Boy and His Dog, Silent Running and Logan's Run. It's 80s, but I have to put Brazil, Buckaroo Banzi and Enemy Mine on a 'early' sci-fi must list. Fast forward to 90s and you shouldn't overlook Gattaca.
- AJ Kohn
I don't know if I'd call Brazil sci-fi. It's more of a kafka-esque nightmare of wagnerian proportions. The tech is more retro-future than sci-fi. If you made it through that forest of buzzwords, I congratulate you. I did love the film though, as I do anything from Terry Gilliam.
- Phil G
A "kafka-esque nightmare of wagnerian proportions". Well said.... Now I can go to bed.....
- Kevin Shannon
You guys are reminding me of so many great films - how could I have forgotten Enemy Mine? I can think of no other words to describe it than beautiful and deeply moving. It also reminds me of another classic - Robinson Crusoe on Mars.
- Slappy Line
Loving the FriendFeed additions to Feedly! - http://edwink.devhd.com/2008...
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Plurk Keeps On Going Strong - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
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I bet that Plurk ends up with more users than FriendFeed and Twitter. It's just has this goofiness and gaminess that the mass market will find appealing, even if the snobby A-list tech bloggers ignore it. I'm not on MySpace, either, very often, but it's done just fine without me. Congrats!
- Robert Scoble
Agree Plurk could end up with more users than both twitter and FriendFeed. Twitter because of uptime and FriendFeed is too complex/powerful for mass adoption in its current UX.
- Christian Anderson
Do you guys think that Plurk's Karma system will start being emulated in other sites looking for mass appeal? The whole concept rubs me the wrong way.
- Frankie Warren
Personally I hate the Karma system, but I don't think the whole thing is targeted at me either. It's viral, encourages participation, and seems to be working.
- Duncan Riley
I can't bring myself to create a Plurk account, but I think it'll appeal to the MySpace crowd... once it breaks out of the early adopter trenches, I could see it doing well. See you there when they cross the 5 million user mark.. at that point I don't think I could keep ignoring it. ;)
- Eric Hamilton
@Frankie: the karma system has its benefits and its disadvantages. Sure when you are on like you normally are its fine, but if you go on vacation sans internet say goodbye to karma. And as far as users I've become active over on plurk along with several others but many signed up did a few posts and quit, so its a little bit of both, people who are sticking with it, and dead profiles
- BCK
i've whined about the karma system and think the tech early-adopters will all hate it, but Plurk was designed with teenaged girls as a key target and it seems to be doing well attracting more of a diverse, mass (albeit still small, but growing) audience, versus the ubergeeks on friendfeed. Karma will only get aped if Plurk becomes a certified hit and Plurk is not in danger of that just yet.
- Christian Anderson
Right right. But do you think the karma system is being recognized as something that is driving usage of the site and will therefore be increasingly used by start ups trying to break into the mainstream?
- Frankie Warren
And this is after dozens of people said "fail" when they first heard about it and they had downtime issues. Just goes to show what persistence is worth in the face of critics. I still haven't found a liking for it myself, but I respect their efforts.
- Ray Grieselhuber
I have an account, but... I just don't know if it's really worth it yet?
- l0ckergn0me
the only real interactions i've had there were with Duncan. Mainly because we happened to both be trying to figure it out at the same time. Plurk is a bit myspacey for me. I think it has real potential, but its not there yet.
- Christian Anderson
the one thing I'll add (and I dont think it was in the post) is that it's my non-techy friends that have taken to Plurk the most. I'm seriously thinking consumer play in the Mahalo space. Still, it's not too bad, at least its up more than twitter :-)
- Duncan Riley
plurk last a week with me, thread conversation good. Not always conversing with your friends in bad. Gone back to Twiiter and using FF more
- Nick Cowie
from twhirl
I was on it for about the same time frame Nick, it just didn't seem engaging to me!
- Joe Dawson
Plurk is only as 'myspacey' as your friends are 'myspacey' - there are plenty of grown-ups on Plurk having great threaded conversations all day long. Sure, the initial sign-up page and the public timeline appear a bit teeny, but then I thought for a long time that twitter looked dumb because of its home page and public timeline before I fully engaged with it too. To each their own, but I think Plurk's uptime (yes, with a far smaller user base currently than Twitter) & threaded conversations are major pluses
- Matt Hooper
I changed my twitter avatar to the Fail Whale. Plurk FTW!
- The Dude Dean
If you watch one video today this is the one to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Good chuckle...
- Barbara K. Baker
Hilarious to watch.
- seman
I still love that. Had to play it for the husband.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Awesome!
- Stephen Terlizzi
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