a few days ago someone here on friendfeed was saying "privacy is a false issue" (meaning: c'mon, it's not a real problem)... yeah, sure! - lezionidistile
This is not a privacy matter. This is a security matter. Is pretty different. - Federico Fasce
the problem is: your privacy is always a security matter. this specific episode teaches (to anyone unaware of the problem) that your data (being it online or offline) is always linked to the security of some system, and breaches do happen... people should be aware of it (and then freely decide what/how/when share stuff online), most of them, unfortunatly, are not. - lezionidistile
Just after posting this, a Facebook friend told me that Best Western says the newspaper report isn't accurate, saying the data breach relates to one hotel only. They've issued a press release which I don't think clarifies much. And that release isn't listed on their website. http://tinyurl.com/65kztw - Neville Hobson
@Federico Fasce : I second lezionidistile; this is 100% about one's privacy. If you think having your credit card info stolen isn't a Privacy matter of the most critical importance, what do you think is? - Woodrow Jarvis Hill
What's the difference from privacy and security matter? Does this both connote restriction? - Jack
Are you? It is happening... google is that powerful. - Jack
Not to sure how scary this is because at the end of the day this is true for any service you use. The power company could cut you off tomorrow if they felt they had due concerns. Google reopened his account once they had completed the investigation. - John Cooper
Backups, folks. So many of us have been using a centralized cloud for our backups without thinking the cloud could up and float away. 1TB drives are cheap. - Stupid Emoo (aka Tina)
FWIW my new Google account was just canned: I've had it for two days. Even the username is showing as available. - Stupid Emoo (aka Tina)
You totally disarmed me for pointing out how demeaning labels can be that I lost my focus on the social media survey result.
Hats off to you for speaking out on that.
Best.
alain
www.mor.ph - Alain Benedict Yap
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Sarah, I would still disagree that this study implies social media (as we on this site think of it) is all that popular in the mainstream. Once you dig through the backlinks, the original post says "Text messaging, blogging and social networking have reached critical mass, with more than half of adults now relying on at least one of these so-called Web 2.0 platforms for communicating with friends, family, or colleagues on a regular basis". At least one.
They give hard numbers for blogging, texting, and IM (which is odd as it wasn't specified as one of the emerging media studied), but no hard data on social network participation. Personally, I find the omission telling. - Stupid Emoo (aka Tina)
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Boo ... missed this list ... apparently I need to be commenting on your blog more often :) - Nick O'Neill
OK, that's too funny. Individual FriendFeeders and their last 5 entries. And yes, it perpetuates the A-List... - Hutch Carpenter
Nick: no, on my FriendFeed! (Guy Kawasaki: Nick is a mover and shaker tech geek in Washington DC, keeps one of the top Facebook blogs). - Robert Scoble
Nice list and format for checking out some of the top FriendFeed users (at least as picked by Guy Kawasaki and team). - Robert Scoble
Hutch: the A list is NOT dead. It's just that everyone will be on the A list soon. - Robert Scoble
Too bad many of the people on that page are not really actively participating in conversations here. I say down with lists ALLTOgether. @guykawasaki meh. I'd love to see that page filtered to only show native Friendfeed entries/comments. I bet it would look pretty empty. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wow - all that does is convince me that AllTop is moving into really useless territory. Why would I EVER go to AllTop to find new people to follow on FriendFeed? I'm even on an AllTop list (journalist) but think it has little value (get an RSS). - David Cohn
Thing that really sticks out about that list is that it's all tech and social media. FF is already broader than that (not that there's a thing wrong with tech and sm). - Chris Baskind
Self promotion is a good thing. However, whoever made that list should have titled it "Subscribe to my friends on FriendFeed" - Candace Holly
another list polluted by who Guy likes at a given time. It was my issue with alltop to start with, and still is. I made fun of Trumors at one stage, and I've been banned ever since - Duncan Riley
Well I somehow made this list. This concept is somewhat similar to Crowdstatus. I created a page a while back to track users behind the top Lifestreaming services http://lifestreamblog.com/usin... - Mark Krynsky
Apparently, I've been too quiet on FF - at least I can still hang around with y'all over on the Twitterati list. But I don't blame guy - apparently, the list was compiled for him. :) - Lucretia Pruitt
Yeah - very interesting list - I really don't see many of those involved on FriendFeed much. Curious how he compiled that. - Jesse Stay
Every time there's a list it perpetuates the A-List. "Everyone" will never be on the A-List as long as there are lists. - Cyndy
What Cyndy meant to say is that if there is "a list", there will be "a list" unless there is "no list" - Louis Gray
the truth is that lists have always been around and are here to stay, part of life... - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dude. That was before caffeine. At 6:30 or so. After a night with a kid in bed with us. I seriously need a new bed. I'm thinking of moving into the bunk beds since they are so rarely occupied by actual children. I swear it made sense. - Cyndy
I enjoy lists that show me NEW people to follow, interesting people who I might not have heard of or seen, not a carbon copy of other lists or the same names repeated everywhere. I guess I don't get it. What's the point of these lists? - Trish R
The lists are a great idea and I can't complain since my two main blogs are both on Alltop lists. The problem, especially with an emerging medium like FriendFeed, is that it perpetuates the existing hierarchy very quickly. Simply by being on the list, you'll get more subscribers and stay atop the list. - James Joyner
Alltop's Frienderati page looks like the A-List "elite". I agree with Lucretia, it appears this list was created for Guy and he shared it. ;*) - Susan Beebe
Mutch fun this was! I took a nap for you Leo :-) - Matt Rider
I had the longest nap after this was over. Good times. - Dennis Jackson
Great fun watching on Thursday night. Woz's section was superb and so was ton of it - kept me up way too late watching, when I should've been sleeping / prepping for horrendous lines / waiting yesterday :) - Patrick Jordan
Great job, I heard I was on the stream from a guy with a macbook videocasting from Third Street Promenade, I high fived the isight Camera and yelled TWiTLive - Andrew Fielding
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Taking over your blog at IBM is nothing compare to you but you are out and it's employees voice. I find your sentiments in a good position to describe your feelings about blogging employees voice and in your own personal view with IBM. - Jack
How your skills in Internet Marketing online could be valuable to offline businesses in your local area and how it can earn you additional income. - SusanneUK
It is a fine post. If you know much about Internet, it will really help your business up on the ground either offline or offline. - Jack
I don't find it so bad now with the iphone. In the UK, orange used to have a service where a human operator would take a message and txt it to you. That was great. - Robin Barooah
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It all just rolls to my email inbox (and my mobile), so still has value. - Norman Guadagno
It's a must for me. I spend too much time in meetings not to have it since I'm an IT Consultant/Systems Integrator. For some people, I suppose it's not really useful anymore though. - Jason Huebel
only use it as an answering machine now... email has crushed it as a medium for group informing IMO - Tim Elliott
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I use YouMail, which sends me an email, sms and transcribes it. Yes, I use it. - Vince DeGeorge
Anymore? I have successfully avoided using it for many years. I never liked it to begin with. - Tom Harrison
Almost 100% email - why leave a voicemail when most people are instantly connected to email throughout the day. - Wayne Schulz
Voice mail is essential, because the most useful feature of a cell phone is the OFF button. - Dewald Pretorius
I find it most useful when I'm out and about in an area of poor coverage - Robin Barooah
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I have a friend who has forwarded his phone to his wife and lets her be his voicemail. He has done this more than once for weeks at a time, and loves it very much. - Tim Wright
@Dewald I couldn't agree more with you. Cellphones are electronic leeches. Voicemail allows us to disconnect ourselves from them when necessary. - Jason Huebel
I use it on my mobile phone. We don't have landlines at the office anymore. I also have it on my home landline, but that's hardly ever used now. People know the best way to get me is via mobile - voice or text, or even twitter DM, which goes to sms anyway. IM is another good way to get my attention. - jjprojects
completely turned it off and I tell people not to leave me a voice mail. been like this for years. - Loic Le Meur
does YouMail have ads or anything? I have a account but not sure if I want to switch?? - Aaron Myers
Coverage is so bad in south Louisiana that I can't go without it or I'd miss too much. - Garrett Guillotte
i use spinvox, i believe you covered it - converts voicemail to text messages & email - Zee from WeDoCreative
Visual Voicemail has made it bearable again but generally I try to avoid it all together. - David Recordon
Call my phone and you will get your answer: I hate voice mail. - Robert Scoble
I hope all the voice mail naysayers aren't the same rude people taking calls in the middle of a face to face conversation, or in a restaurant or any of the other places where calls annoy everybody around? - Brian Sullivan
my voice mail tells you to send me an email. :-) - Robert Scoble
I don't usually use the word 'never', so we'll just say that I 'hardly ever' listen to vm. - Sonciary Honnoll
No one actually calls me, although I might add that I don't personally like leaving voicemail messages. I e-mail people and people e-mail me - so much easier. - Cyvros/fyc
It gets emailed to me as an mp3. If I don't have your number in my phone, or you use Skype that comes up Unknown Numer or 0000012345 - you go to VM and I'll get an mp3 a minute later. - Aaron Brazell
Love YouMail. Let's you customize message to specific caller, as well as choose from many vanity messages, also selectable by caller. I spend at least 50% of my work day in meetings or conference calls so I have to have VM. - Kevin Shannon
You people are sad ;) Don't you have family members that call you? Doctors confirming appointments? The car repair place? The kids' school? I mean really, I'd prefer to talk to my grandparents on the phone, and if I didn't have voicemail (or if they didn't), I'd miss a lot of things... - Gabe Wachob
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@Aaron, there is a small ad with the email and transcript - at least I think - it's small enough or non-intrusive enough that I couldn't say for sure. For the voicemail portion, there are no ads that I've ever "heard." I've always been 100% satisfied with it - though please stay away from the corny greetings they offer and do your own. - Vince DeGeorge
Gabe if one of those people calls I call them back. No VM needed. - Robert Scoble
@Vince Some of the vanity messages are OK. I'm partial to the one with Pam and Michael from "The Office". I was considering the one that says "Due to the recent earthquake this call can not be completed", but it might scare the cr@p out of my mother.. - Kevin Shannon
We don't have a concept of voicemail in India.. and I hope VM doesn't catch up here. - Muthu Ramadoss
Of course I use voicemail. It's becuase I don't pick up the phone. - Gerard Barberi
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Text messages. They are faster and I get them when I'm in meetings. - Travis Murdock
I do have voicemail on my phone but everyone knows I never check it. They text or e-mail me if they really need me. I think I check my voicemail when I realize that I have about 10. - Candace Holly
I use email but a few of my clients still use my Grand Central number. - Jeff L.
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I don't mind voicemail, most people don't bother and text me. Trick is to stay on top of it and not let them pile up, unified messaging is nice. Visual Voicemail is one iPhone feature I did appreciate, when it worked. - Andrew Feinberg
I am completely off of voicemail at work and home, but still access it on my mobile, of course - John McCrea
I use youmail for my cell phone. I would use GrandCentral more if more people called me. - Christian Burns
I stll have it on cell and office but office forwards to email. Cell vm, I forget to check so most people don't bother. - Karen Swim
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Using PhoneTag (was Simulscribe) so just get emails and sms with transcript. Hardly ever need to listen to them and they just come in with the rest of my comms. Saves a heap of time. - Jed White
Likewise - Rolls to my inbox. Instantly screened .... delete ... delete .... :) - Charlie Anzman
I hate hate hate voicemail. Waste of time. Interface sucks. - Andy Wibbels
I get voice mail now and then and it sort of annoys me. I find email so much better for leaving messages. There's a place for phone conversations but voicemail ... I dunno. - AJ Kohn
I am trying to push people towards sending me text, but - Gabe Wachob
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Rarely does anything go to voice mail any more. Reading these comments makes me wonder why mine are note forwarded to my inbox. I need to do that. - Sal Distefano
I HATE voicemail, but it is a necessary evil for me. Visual Voicemail on the iPhone 3G should make things easier to manage for me, but I look forward to a voicemail-free future someday soon. - Granteezy
I don't use voice mail, I have a hearing difficulty... - Jack
I use voicemail but simply for work purposes! - Joe Dawson
i hate voicemail - why can´t people just send me an email? - Dieter Schwarz
i find it very useful with skype and also enjoy my cellular provider's free vm service. let's my buddies async messages pretty much like e-mail. greatly reduces callbacks on missed calls. time and money saver for me. - Berk D. Demir
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I use VM at work so little that I have to "refresh" my memory of the system. Consequently, I usually have about 18 or so messages in the hopper. Anyone important emails me. Most of the VM are from sales or recruiters - Robb
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if a person is not reachable, send SMS/email.. never felt the need for voicemail! - Rakesh
All my voicemail messages ask people to email me, as I'll be slow in responding to email. - Jeremiah Owyang
haha jeremiah - re-read what you wrote :) - Allen Stern
It sounds like Jeremiah is telling callers/emailers -- "Piss off I don't want to talk to you" ? or is it a typo ;-) - Brian Sullivan
all my friends know not to leave a msg and just hang up. We can see who called and if we want to know why, we will call back. - Jack Scalfani
iPhone and SpinVox are both great solutions. but truthfully I hate voicemail. - Sam Pullara
GrandCentral was a great concept but Google doesn't seem to have done anything with it since they bought it. A combination of their web-based voicemail and iphone-style voicemail would be ideal. - Charlie
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I use GrandCentral with email notifications that someone called me. If they're in my address book, it tells me who it was and I just call them back. I rarely actually log in to listen to the voicemails! - Kenneth LeFebvre
Come to think of it, I haven't used voicemail in months. - Carolyn
Visual Voicemail on the iPhone actually makes it very efficient for me. - James
for years now I have switched off voice mail and asked everybody I know to so the same, for two reasons: (1) it always ends up making users pay for more phone time: leaving the message + reading the message + calling back. Also, when a friend calls you and you are using voicemail, they are transferred to voicemail: more money for the phone company, less for your friend. And (2) with the existance of email and (if you want to pay extra) SMS, it just doesn't make sense to use voicemail anyway . - micronauta
voicemail *is* dead. just send me a txt or wait for me to call back. - Jon Price
I had to go through a torturous process to get my cell provider to switch off voice mail - voice mail while overseas is annoying and expensive, should be just an option on the phone itself - Chris Garrett
“My son is asking another entrepreneur about his business. Makes me proud. Is asking same questions I would be asking: why would I use your service? What makes it special. Entrepreneur answers back "you sound just like your dad." heh.”
mini-scobleizer.com (not a real site) :) I saw Loic interview Daniel...Loic said something like it felt too limited, somebody else tried the same thing. He suggested that Daniel do something like organize teen communities for seesmic and he'd be first customer... - Pokai
Your son should have an account in friendfeed - MicroDump
Daniel is inspiring - he's living the life I wish I could have at that age. The next Ben Casnocha... - Jesse Stay
Yuvi: my son is into WoW, not blogging or FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
Can I send him after Commissioner Tate? She's obsessed with "protecting children" - Andrew Feinberg
Andrew: Patrick hates people who try to censor what he sees. But you can't change the minds of people who see the world like that. - Robert Scoble
*sigh* so, so true...her fact checking is awful though...I've nailed her several times and she runs away from me in heels now. Protection != control. - Andrew Feinberg
The problem is fires. We don't care about your hand. But if you haven't noticed our state is burning right now. I think our love of fireworks is pretty dangerous. - Robert Scoble
Egads! I love it in Texas where I can buy whiskey, a gun and fireworks within walking distances. Bad combo, but good 'ol fun. - Matt Horton
doesnt ban it. my church sells them along wiht about 5 other organizations in the nearby town of dublin... - Robbie Trencheny
Umm, have you seen the headlines about the hundreds of firestorms around the state? Lightning isn't the only cause of fire. - Phil Wolff
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Since there are wildfires going on in California I don't they want any extra fires to put out. - Molly, the Muse
Well we here in Northern California live in a very dry place with lots of vegetation that burns quickly (chapparal, eucalyptus, other) - not to mention dense urban areas with primarily wood construction (earthquakes, remember). It just doesn't make a lot of sense. Also, even where you can get 'fireworks", its the non-exploding, non-flying type. That being said, I grew up in San Francisco, and I can tell you that the few weeks before 4th of July always seemed like a war zone in my neighborhood... - Gabe Wachob
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Huh? I'm seeing a bunch of fireworks here in Union City, feels like Iraq here - Vera Yu
I meant, you can't *legally* get that stuff. In a few cities, Union City included I think, you can get these 'safe and sane'. But yah, in some places, for some reason, people like lighting off stirngs of m-80's until midnight every day for weeks before the 4th. I'm glad I don't have to put up with that any more... - Gabe Wachob
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There are environment good fireworks, have they checked this before banning? Fireworks are beautiful. - Jack
You mean, like ones that don't start fires? - Gabe Wachob
Hmm.. I'm still seeing (and hearing) lots of fireworks here in LA.. - Chris Chua
Obviously there are fireworks in California but nothing like I've been used to growing up where the entire street is out setting stuff off or fireworks being sold in the grocery. - David Recordon
It's not just CA. In most of India personal fireworks got banned to control the air and noise pollution many years ago. - Deepak
You wouldn't know fireworks were outlawed here in San Jose. I was at a house on the edge of the Hills in Los Gatos tonight and the personal fireworks people were launching right near us were just as good as the professional shows in the distance. The fireworks finally stopped for the most part around 11:45PM. - Jeff P. Henderson
