I think it's an interesting article and I do feel this flu is way hyped up, so much so as to be an opportunity for exploitation by the media, governments, or others with self interest objectives. It's sad that people have died, but except for protecting children this doesn't have the behavior or numbers for panic. That may change, but it's not true now. AIDS for example is a much more...
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- Keith Barrett
just fear propaganda, and what's worse is symptoms are same as flu. you here any hear any one cough and everyone just freezes
- Varun Shenoy
Thank you Leo. I am so tired of the way this is being framed by the media. On the other hand, this article has its own biases against conventional medicine.
- Jacob Nahin
I'm so glad to see calm and rational articles starting to surface. I work in the travel industry and it's been a complete disaster this week trying to settle people down that aren't even scheduled to travel til later this year. It's the frakin' FLU, let's try to be a little rational here. It makes you want to hold news people responsible for jacking up people's fear unreasonably....
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- jbean
The real danger in this irrationality around swine flu is that if and when a real disaster occurs we will have headline news-fatigue and will react lethargically to our own peril.
- Gregg Scott
Close as in allow no traffic? Heck no. Trade would suffer horribly. A lot of products still come from Mexico and the disease is not so severe that we should risk slowing trade in a poor economy.
- Jacob Nahin
Not only that, you'd have to close all borders to all, since it doesn't necessarily mean Mexico > US, it can go otherways. Besides, it would be like the smoke in a smoking section in a restaurant knowing where to stop. Heh.
- Eric Rice
If they close the border over this they end up with TSA checking your temperature at the security checkpoints. Not something a sane person wants.
- John Rubier
EU is already considering a flight ban
- Duncan Riley
I had Tamales today in spite - we're all too afraid.
- Jesse Stay
And New Zealand, and Spain, France, Texas, New York :)
- Jorge Chapa
Im using it on a bold , here in canada .. for the most part its been good .. had some real issues ,, the guys are quick to respond , use this @Orangatame
- johnpiercy
I'm using it on the Pearl. Occasionally I have to cancel the upload and retry with pictures, but other than that it works fine. I'm liking it more than TinyTwitter.
- matthew john ernisse
It's pretty good, i use it on my curve
- Gordon Swaby
usint it now with the Bold. It's good enough. With the Nokia I used the web-based but fully functional m.slandr.net
- Andy Sternberg
I didn't like it (used Tinytwitter instead) until the latest version which allows customization of startup page. Now that I can make my Friend's update page the startup page, the app makes more sense. I now use TwitterBerry instead of TinyTwitter.
- James Hoang
I've just started using it on the Storm, works pretty well, I couldn't get TinyTwitter to work on the 9530 so I can't compare.
- Stephen B
Works fine for me, except for the "Send to Twitpic" feature, that doesn't work at all.
- Jordi Soler
Just started using a BlackBerry (Bold), noticed, that one must not exit TwitterBerry with the Esc-key but with the hangup-key, otherwise background polling won't work (at least for me).
- Martin Carpella
make sure you are following @orangatame
- johnpiercy
Yes I am using it on my Storm.. it works fine so far that is
- Bill Moore
from twhirl
I have a Bold and its your only choice ... I have a Bold , but not for long
- johnpiercy
Twitterberry is great. I think you will find it a good choice
- RALPH
I think that you will find that using Twitterberry on the Bold is very addicting.
- RALPH
Have a look at SocialScope, it is the current best contender with TwitterBerry
- Mark Stahler
I cannot, for the life of me, get myself to enjoy this app. For now I've been using plain old SMS or the m.twitter.com site. I used to live religiously by Twitter updates on IM via Jivetalk, but that has been dead for what, a year now? *tear* I will check out the other options mentioned here though, thanks and keep them coming!
- Rob
Damien, that's the 3 I picked for the headline, the total is 19. Includes all the Nicks, MTV/ VH1 sites etc
- Duncan Riley
WTF?!? Oh there's gonna be some townspeople carrying torches on new years day. I've already been considering ATT Uverse and this might be the straw that broke the camel's back.
- Mark Krynsky
Full list (some might not have all) Comedy Central, Logo, BET, Spike, TV Land, Nick at Nite, Nickelodeon, Noggin, The N, Nick Jr., TEENick, MTV, VH1, MTV2, CMT and Palladia, and 3 more I couldn't work out (I confirmed the 19 total, this is 16)
- Duncan Riley
This happens a lot, and it often involves Viacom. A couple years ago it was Dish Network, and before that it was Comcast. If the past is precedent, expect an 11th hour deal to be brokered, or the outage to last only a matter of days. When Viacom and Dish Network went at it, it was because Viacom wanted to bundle channels Dish Network didn't want (like Noggin) and jacked its rates up 40%. The Dish Network outage lasted 2 days.
- Mark Trapp
Not just Viacom. There's also the NFL Network squabble here in the US.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I went through this with Dish Network years ago. Calling that number does help if done in groves.
- Mike Lewis
Saw this on the Tele this AM. So glad we aren't Time Warner customers.
- Drew Lucas
Time to cancel cable anyways. Everything you really need is available from Netflix and free OTA Network TV for a heck of a lot less money.
- Thomas Hawk
@Thomas Hawk: Re netflix: they only have old seasons of The Office. Also, no Terminator:TSCCC. Also, there are still places that can't get OTA signals. I used to live in a small town. Thank God for satellite television.
- Jacob Nahin
What?!? No Comedy Central? Agree with others, it may be time to dump TWC.
- Herb Hernandez
@Simon, many people do get OTA TV though. In terms of current episodes of the office I just have my Media Center PC record them in high def with a high def antenna and watch them for free.
- Thomas Hawk
As a TW customer I'm not surprised either. Net access is in and out, HD reception is bad, all channels constantly pixelate and drop audio. Customer support is expertly trained in the art of avoidance.
- Tom Harrison
Tom, don't forget TWC promises that new HD channels are "coming soon". Except for us, it's been two years. Not soon enough, IOW.
- Admiral Anika
Comcast is worse. I am ready to ditch cable totally.
- Nation Hahn
WHOA!! that sucks... glad I don't watch TV on my TWC tv account, just internet
- Susan Beebe
So does this affect directtv customers?
- adolfo foronda
Seems pretty obvious that this will be taken care of ASAP. The news broadcast said it adds up to 23 cents a customer. Pretty sure that is a small price to pay to keep your kid shut up and busy for hours on end (thats just for Nickelodeon alone).
- beersage
This is where the Net Neutrality argument extends into all monopolistic content providers. Time-Warner decides what you get to watch. Similarly, with their Cable internet service, you will only be able to upload at 1/10th the speed that you can download, therefore hampering your ability to produce content in relation to the ability to consume content.
- Andy Sternberg
Saw Nova recently talking about the theory that the diff between Mars and Earth in terms of being hospitable to life is mainly due to our magnetic field. Kind of makes norther lights an affirmation of life. :)
- mikepk
Ah, the mythical 7x7x7. I worked with a guy who had a 5x5x5 and routinely solved every day or two. He called it stress relief. He said someone stole his 6x and 7x cubes.
- Phil G
I'm still tryingt to figure out my mickey mouse coloring book...
- Jacob Nahin
Inteview Don Graham, CEO of Washington Post, now on Board of Directors for Facebook (mentor to Matt Z). I have his email, he's a friend of mine on Facebook now. I am trying to get him on Friendfeed and twitter...bet you could do much better than me at that!!! -
- Susan Beebe
Allow me to express a dissenting view: if you loved the Iraq War, and the way that neocons have corrupted and dragged down the American mainstream media, you'll love Donald Graham, who gave Fred Hiatt, Charles Krauthammer, Robert Kagan and other prominent ringleaders of the war a prominent platform in the Washington Post. His association with Facebook is as alarming as Rupert Murdoch's with Myspace. They are members of the same small club of neocon oligarchs. Talk about the failure of the leadership class.
- Sean McBride
Susan: I had dinner with Don Graham a few years back. He's smart and would be an interesting interview. Especially because of Sean's points.
- Robert Scoble
Robert -- I wonder if there is a diplomatic way to slip in a few of those points through the back door. :) Probably not. Sore subjects, but absolutely necessary subjects for the rest of us to be thinking about.
- Sean McBride
Actually, I would love it if you could interview one or two guys from PC Mag to get their take on the collapse of print journalism. Not exactly on topic per CES, but interesting to me at least (as a journalism major, one of my goals was/is to work at PC Mag).
- Jacob Nahin
By the way, Glenn Greenwald, in his blog posts on Fred Hiatt, has done an excellent job in explicating the problems with Donald Graham's management of the Washington Post http://www.google.com/search...
- Sean McBride
perhaps someone from Kodak and their digital frame business. Just bought the W1020 that hooks in to my Flickr account and would like to know Kodak's stance on internet-connected devices.
- Randy Ksar
from twhirl
lots of people to interview here, next time you come to NC...
- Bora Zivkovic
George Oates who was laid off from flickr.
- Thomas Hawk
Mark: I've learned that EVERYONE is in that position. Including me.
- Robert Scoble
Andrew; In all truthfullness with him have ad spots he want the stats on how many people are downloading his podcast a day or how many are coming back. That's probably the truth of the matter!! So he can have advertising stats for advertisers!
- Paul
I don't mind it cause it happens in print as well. But ditto what Robert said.
- Shevonne
But with the ease of publishing, isn't that irresponsible?
- Mona Nomura
I think it also depends on the severity and frequency. An error from time to time that gets corrected is not nearly as much of an issue as someone who never fact checks, won't correct errors, etc.
- Rochelle
agree with Scoble. I don't mind mistakes. I like it when people correct them when they are pointed out though. Most bloggers don't necessarily have fact checkers on staff and news often breaks fast and much of what they write is op/ed.
- Thomas Hawk
It bothers me like crazy, but moreso that when someone informs them of the correction -- they don't go back and do an update (which is ditto Robert). Sometimes, I'd love to see more reporting in blogs, especially since many of them have gained status as the voice of whatever topic it covers.
- Lynne d Johnson
Hey, I write editorial so I never make mistakes ;-P No, I do agree it is a bit irresponsible, but most everyone is out doing this for fun, or very little change. Everyone makes mistakes, and as long as corrections are readily made, no issue with me, personally.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I agree with Rochelle. Errors don't bug me so much as an ambivalence towards truth in general. Sensational headline + vague writeup + link <> something I want to read... and yet I see it way too much...
- David Wynn
Absolutely. Sometimes, popular bloggers forget how much power they wield. I think the reason is one part laziness, one part a lack of access to information databases and scholarly papers which often require a subscription (time to join a library).
- Jacob Nahin
No. But I realize that I don't read many popular blogs. I don't expect people I converse with to always be right. I definitely agree with everyone about correcting mistakes once pointed out, though.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
It depends on what they are writing about. I don't always check my facts before I write or say them, but I always try to do so with major things.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
The question's too broad. It depends on who's blogging and what they're blogging about. Should DailyKos fact check on political posts? Perhaps. Should Perez-Hilton fact check on rumors and gossip? Ehh...probably not. It depends on the situation.
- .LAG liked that
Mark: I didn't realize that blogs contained facts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
It bugs me quite a bit to not have writers--regardless of the medium, not check their facts. An off-the-cuff tweet is one thing ( I don't know of anyone who rough-drafts a tweet)--but pretty much anything else seems negligent.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
That's true, Robert. It's all "rumors," and if you can get 2 guys to confirm it, it's "general knowledge." Fact-checking is really bothering me, especially with the latest bitch-memes of "# of followers = authority," TechMeme, and Steve Jobs's health. The number of followers you have or the number of people linking to you indicates how true what you said is. It gets even more hairy when other bloggers call linking to another blog as a "verified source" and call that fact-checking.
- Mark Trapp
Fact-checking -- not important whatsoever. Yeah, right.
- Michael Krigsman
Writing about IT failures, fact checking is the bedrock of what I do.
- Michael Krigsman
Fact checking is extremely important, particularly if you are making quantitative claims. I can see I'm in the minority on this one, but it really drives me crazy sometimes to see half-assed guesses passed off as hard facts. If you care about readers like me, you'll respect my intelligence and make sure you've got it straight before you hit "publish".
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, I'm so absolutely with you on this one.
- Michael Krigsman
+1 for "half-assed guesses'. I'm with you and several others here, Jason. More about web writing in general, not just blogs.
- Kamilah Gill
I don't expect to be completely correct in every post, but I don't write "news" and I don't plainly state things I'm not sure of as fact. I would also assume my reader's would let me know if I'm wrong because, in the end, that's really what I'm trying to do. Discuss something :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rahsheen: I think engaging readers in discussion by presenting a perspective and allowing them to react is great. However, using readers as surrogate fact-checkers to avoid the legwork yourself is not so great. (Not saying that's what you do, but I suspect many people do.)
- Michael Krigsman
I don't mind if the first blogger made an irresponsible post. The annoying thing is when other bloggers link back to the source without regard for how ludicrous the story is (no matter how trustworthy the source is). And sometimes it's as simple as sending a freaking email asking for details. GigaOM has an excellent track record of actually contacting people for their stories.
- trextor
Of course it does and I don't read those people. I'm also suspect of people who quote or support those types of bloggers. And as someone else mentioned, it's extremely annoying to see the blogger get corrected in the comments and they don't even fix it. To me, that person goes on my 'Never Read Again' list.
- Admiral Anika
Well, I try very hard to fact-check my writing. It's one of the ways I learn more about my topic actually. I'll get part way through and think, well, damn it, am I sure about this and off I go to make sure I've got it right. So ... yes, it bothers me when others don't take the time to do at least a cursory fact-check. Hello! Google search!
- AJ Kohn
The first time I saw my 1st son nurse, I was overcome with emotion. My very average wife was suddenly extraordinary, (though natural child birth a week earlier was a previous remarkable event-no matter how much you think you respect women for the process, sitting at home plate with a catcher's mitt was life changing). Anyway, seeing my preemie son know perfectly what to do within a...
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- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
As I have heard mentioned before: umm... Facebook has plenty of scandalous apps that aren't banned... it also has plenty of members flaunting sexual pictures...and THIS, breast feeding, is offensive?
- Jacob Nahin
...another one for the "time speeds up with kids"...
- JA Castillo
@Adam @David I have no idea how to better divide my time for the family as there always seems to be a busy schedule!
- Joe Dawson
Time is never enough as you get older and takes on more responsibilities.
- Winston Teo
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
- Baard @ Pixum
I think it seems faster because every year you live makes the next one that much of a smaller percentage of your whole life... For instance, when you're 5 years old, a year seems like forever... it's a whole 1/5th of your life... at 30 a year seems to fly by because it's only 1/30th of your life so far... at 60 we'll be blinking and another year will be gone...
- Lindsay
especially when you have kids! I think it is more interesting, maybe the advice to the young is to value the chance to take time.
- John Cass
from Alert Thingy
The best photographs in the world have yet to be taken.
- Thomas Hawk
I 100% agree with @Lindsay ..... You experience time as a function of your age.
- Stefan Hayden
Life gets a LOT better as we get older too, or at least that's how I see it. From bullied dweeb to happy, successful family nerd in 39 years!
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
I find when running a 100m dash that life really slows down. I try various methods to stretch/shorten time. Living in the moment. Sometimes a week feels like a year to me. Other times, I see a friend's 13-yr old and remember when she was two...
- Mitchell Tsai
According to the general theory of relativity, the faster you approach the speed of light, the more time around you increases relative to your own(get your head around it). I would say that when we get older, we do a lot more and have less time to contemplate like a child. Also, we have adapted to the idea of time and have experienced more of it. Summary: Each second experienced here,...
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- Jacob Nahin
Not only does it seem to go faster, I remember less.
- RAPatton
When I was 15 and had to wait until 16 to get a driver's license, a year seemed forever. Now I only wish it still seemed that way - and driving not all it's cracked up to be, either.
- Tom Landini
way to go guys, onwards and upwards! good luck! you haven't worked at a real startup unless there is a foozball table or a pool table. looks like you are legit :)
- Ivan Stegic
a malmo chair from ikea! the very same colour as mine!
- Giovanni De Stefano
I like that office, I wish mine was that nice!!
- Paul
It seems you bought more tables and chairs to hire more hackers. I like how open your office is.
- seman
We actually didn't buy any tables or chairs - they were left here by the last company. We have a table/chair graveyard in the back as a consequence :)
- Bret Taylor
It looks exactly the same as the old office...
- Jini
The red chair is still my favorite, but it looks like I have more seats to try out.
- Amit Patel
On first thought - great Place! I like the open air about it... but on second thought I don't think I can work in such an open space. I just need my personal space.
- Parth Awasthi
sweet, but I'd put those pool cues in a cue holder or they will bend stored leaning against a wall...causing bad shots. also sunlight on pool table will cause fading, but you probably will just get a new table eventually w/ all the success! :)
- Pokai
sacrilege to say I think it looks pretty ugly?
- Adam
1's and 0's can't tell the difference between the "good stuff" i.e. monster cable and the bad stuff. Still, there is some placebo effect when you buy one of those cables. Now... the analog monster cables are a different situation. apparently, with them, it can make quite a difference.
- Jacob Nahin
It could be worse. Some people actually pay $500 for a length of ethernet cable from Denon. The comments people are leaving in the Amazon reviews are absolutely priceless (ha!). :-) http://tinyurl.com/55263n
- Josh Bancroft
Was just thinking the same thing. Easily over 100° in my apartment ... Movie & a chocolate shake! ;)
- Kevin Hessel
Get Smart was pretty good, I thought.
- Jordan Hofker
I'd rather see the Hulk. Not going to happen this weekend, unfortunately. And it's 90 something here, too.
- ComicList
Doesn't anyone in San Francisco have air conditioning?
- Michael Tefft
103 here. Spent early afternoon installing AC in daughter's room. BTW - Tap Plastics is brilliant! Custom cut Acrylic in no time for dirt cheap.
- AJ Kohn
@Michael - no A/C in SF. We have such generally cool temps that it's not often needed. But we do get like 12 days a year where the temps climb. Fans help. And San Francisco is actually cooling off at this moment (finally).
- Hutch Carpenter
It nice in San Mateo, 90 and a little cloudy at last glance. Too bad there's no reason to go to San Mateo :)
- Doug Brooks
It is roasting here, but Get Smart was very cute. People around us were busting up laughing, someone even snorted!!
- Kat
"Ha-ha!" Signed: Sweatless in Seattle
- l0ckergn0me
l0ckergn0me, may not be sweaty but man is it humid.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Very cold (10C) in Melbourne Australia. Brrrrrr
- William Stewart
It always sounded a bit money-grubbing to me when the oil change service kept slapping on stickers that would bring you back within two or three months...
- Voyagerfan5761
oops, reminds me that my check engine light came on yesterday...
- edythe
It's probably a computer glitch. Just about every time I've ever seen one of those lights on has been the result of a computer glitch. Car manufacturers have got to stop using Windows Embedded and switch to Linux. :P
- Voyagerfan5761
Uh...popular mechanics still sticks to the 3,000 oil change. I trust them a bit more than Yahoo and GreenCar.com. It all depends on the type of driving you do e.g. freeway vs street. If most driving is freeway, you can go longer. In general 3k-5k.
- Jacob Nahin
In my family, we just listen to the car's built-in oil change notifier.
- Voyagerfan5761
Completely agree. Here is where we can debate the optimal water flow for the shower.
- Kevin C. Tofel
That is the reason, I hid all twitter entries on friendfeed which doesnt have like/comments.. Dont want duplication..
- Jigar Mehta
I'm curios to see how Twitter is going to be introduced to twitter virgins at the Seattle Podamp meeting. And will FF be there?
- Leif Hansen
Why on earth would you want to tell someone about taking a shower? That is so boring. The whole idea that someone else actually cares that you are taking a shower, or eating a bagel, or something like that, is really narcissistic.
- Jonathan Sterling
I have seen people twittering "Writing tweet on twitter.com".. how funny is that!
- Jigar Mehta
Twitter serves its purpose as a notifier. I agree that it is not a place for extended conversation.
- Alex Williams
I'm going to go take a shower. Talk amongst yourselves.
- Wade Dorrell
users will use a sytem as they wish, regardless of whether the system is well suited to those wishes
- Kevin Johnson
from fftogo
comments like taking a shower is why I quit twitter, when I first joined it was much more like its original purpose of micro-blogging, When I quit all I saw was status updates. It was simply a waste of time for me so I left
- BCK
Testify, Deacon Bob! No threading, no conversation...
- Bill Sodeman
from fftogo
Twitter is for having conversations with someone you don't care of too much, but from whom you're expecting to be cared of a lot. FriendFeed is definitely for having conversations with someone you'd better care of.
- Giovanni De Stefano
Impulsive expression, thinking out loud, breaking news... and Haiku
- Majento
I completely disagree. Twitter is for all sorts of short conversations, as well as status updates. It's not suitable for in-depth dialogue, for sure, but the whole point is having a number of tools available, each suitable for certain tasks. If you expect a tool to do everything, you need to readjust your expectations.
- Fleep Tuque
Fleep: it's great for VERY SHORT conversations. Anything that requires more than three loops just falls apart on Twitter unless you don't have any friends.
- Robert Scoble
Limiting ourselves to someone else's intentions would make for a mundane world, lacking invention and creativity. You have to break it to make it. Or, in the words of Cartman, "Whatevuh, I do what I want."
- califmom
FriendFeed has better conversation tech. The real question is, was this convo worth the bits it took up?
- Mark Drapeau
The bottom line is that I use Twitter for (hopefully interesting) status updates and short convos, and idea bursts. I couldn't be bothered to have long convos online.
- Mark Drapeau
Mark: why does everything have to be "worth" something? Sometimes I just like to talk about something that has no worth. Don't you? Or do you ask your family "what is this stupid conversation worth?" I bet that'd make you a lot of friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I agree. Twitter is good for starting a conversation, to get the ball rolling if you will. Friendfeed is much better to continue and expand the conversation.
- Pedro Fonseca
will we ever agree? I was just thinking last night how crazy it is the kinds of things I hav learned from so many ppl 140 at a time. Twitter is perfect for how I like to communicate
- Lisa
Lisa: well, then you'll love FriendFeed. 140 characters at a time grouped into conversation clusters.
- Robert Scoble
it is easier on friendfeed for sure...but i have more friends on twitter...so i continually check the replies tab if i am having a convo
- Laura
@Scobleizer Im afraid i mite attract da "wrong" kinda Tweeps if I tweet that I'm takin a shower :( -- know whad I'm sayin' man?
- Deborah Micek
I know it's fun to create rivalries where none actually exist, but c'mon, Twitter vs. FriendFeed? Who cares about that rivalry and why should we care? They both exist, they both will likely grow and anyone is free to use or not use. Whichever you prefer and what instances those preferences apply -- are matter of personal preference! :-)
- Robert Seidman
Robert: I see them as complementary, not rivals
- Sally Church
Me too. Notice what is at top of this FF cluster: a tweet! Imagine that!
- Robert Scoble
*sigh* Here we go again. Robert, there are some of us who don't have nice big phones to have nice, fat, conversations on FriendFeed. Some of us have rinky-dink phones with crappy browsers and FriendFeed is nigh on impossible to use, even using something like FFtogo. Read Steve Hodson's piece on the digital divide again. We aren't all privy to the same tools and some things just don't work. *I* have conversations on Twitter. It may be kludgy, but it's what's there.
- Cyndy
Sally, me too: but Scoble sometimes likes stirring the pot even when there's not actually anything in it!
- Robert Seidman
I'm wondering how many spare phone batteries he carries around with him!
- Mr. Gunn
Admittedly, I find myself browsing FriendFeed (directly) and Twitter (via Hahlo3) on my iPhone whenever I'm standing around waiting for something. It's almost a default thing to do to keep myself occupied.
- Akiva Moskovitz
sounds like it's time for a new phone. I agree with Scoble.
- Ryan
robert seidman: bing, bing, bing - good answer, was wondering why creating a conflict between twitter & friendfeed was necessary - seems like a ruler exercise to me ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
re. iterating a comment : for me twitter is 1to1 or 1toMany IM/Notifications, while FF is Many (sources) to One "forum", that's the diff. and it seems that after all, we still need one place to follow it all, or we get lost with too many places. BTW FF has it problems too, look at this issue for example, so many diff threads on the same issue
- Naor Mark
But Robert - I dont like the "grouped part" might as well just be commenting on a blog - nothing here looks different than comments on a techcrunch post. I like seeing what my friends say on their own pages, not in a grouped convo
- Lisa
twitter is useful for pushed info. Robogames is a good example. I couldn't really hear the announcer, but they twittered info about the events while they happened. Maker faire did this as well, as did siggraph. I also dig the mars phoenix announcing water on mars on twitter first. Conversation, isn't really what it's meant for (nor is it meant for following 20k of people, why not just go to the everyone tab).
- Doug Brooks
@Ryan Obviously I need to go dig up Steven's post. Aha! http://www.winextra.com/2008... There's a whole world out there of people like me and like Steven who can't just "go get a new phone" because we'd like a prettier one with better web browsing.
- Cyndy
First, Scoble, nice example of how to enhance the use of Twitter...though sharing this on Friendfeed would have been more direct (so meta of you). Second, there are appropriate communications for Twitter...it's kinda of like a No Response Required zone that can paint a picture of the world without guilt of participation.
- Marc Vermut
from twhirl
Can we all agree that using twitter in the shower is one thing... posting the shower on Qik would be a whole different thing :-)!
- Nancy Babyak
Twitter is a notification / text message style system - FF is a comment system. The synergy is great. I post on twitter and any thread that spawns lives on FF where it belongs. I don't really see the conflict. FF is parasitic by nature - that is it's strength,,, why fight it?
- Soulhuntre
Additionally the "I'm taking a shower" twitters >ARE< the point for huge chunks of the twitterverse. Most of the folks who use it don;t care how many followers they have or use it as a way to get more investor interest. They use it to keep their close friends more easily up to date on the little things that make folks feel "present" to each other. Frankly I'd rather here some random...
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- Soulhuntre
"Here"? I'm reading this on FriendFeed.
- Brent Logan
I don't really think it's up to us to define what the proper use of Twitter is. The proper use is whatever is right for the individual user. If you and your followers enjoy telling each other you're taking a shower then that's great. If I'm not interested in your shower then I don't follow you. Twitter is a service, and however a person enjoys using it is fine. There is no right or wrong.
- Kevin Shannon
I use twitter for convos all the time. One of the best ways for IMing on my phone is using Twitterberry.
- Jacob Nahin
I have many conversations on Twitter - but I also don't try to interact with 21k people... then again, a conversation doesn't have to be longer than 1 statement a piece in my book. I like FF for concentrating large *group* conversations in one place - but I interact more with people on Twitter. To each her own tho. I won't tweet about showers.
- Lucretia Pruitt
You can create networks on twitter if your cretive and use it for whatever you want. Obviously, watching the public timeline would suck, but your network could work anyway you want.
- Bruce Prokopets
dissagree a little. You can have short conversations on Twitter, I think you can go back and forth three times. Its useful, you have to get straight to the point
- Joe Mac Stevens
Anyway modders, to output this thing to the run button so that when i run real world i run in the virtual? Add in a gyroscope to for sword swinging. Ultimate interaction?
- Jacob Nahin
Okay, that's kinda silly, but I would seriously like a treadmill desk (with my one big monitor on it). Yes, I know I could theoretically do-it-myself, but I'm lazy/unskilled in that area. And the ones for purchase seem to be outlandishly expensive :(
- Adam Lasnik
Good luck. Heard bad things bout this film. Sounds like a junky comedy weekend.
- Jacob Nahin
We just got home from the movie. It wasn't bad at all. Not great, but if you're a fan of the old tv show or Steve Carrel or Anne Hathaway you should go see it. There were several serious LOL moments. I'll give it a 3 fnords out of 5.
- Internet's Tad
Yes, general dislike of the borg-like Amazon empire and their tactics with retailers and publishers.
- AJ Kohn
if they can undercut itunes like this... imagine what happened to your local bookstore :)
- Frankie Warren
My local bookstore is Borders. I have no nostalgia for local businesses. If I can obtain products nearly as quickly and cheaper through Amazon, then I will. Adapt or perish.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
I just don't like the whole "local business" angle. Maybe I'm a bit bitter because my profession is easily off-shored and I have to bust my ass to stay way ahead of the curve.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
@Tad: Really? Huh. I view homogenization as grim reaper of creativity. Selection decreases rapidly when retail power is too centralized.
- AJ Kohn
You will be assimilated. Your library will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.
- Jacob Nahin
a Starbucks, a Gap, a Barnes & Noble, an Applebees and a Wal-Mart. Ugh ... kill me now.
- AJ Kohn
@AJ in a vacuum, yeah maybe, but there's this thing called the Internets - plenty of creativity on there.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
US only and they don't accept PayPal
- Steven Hodson
@AJ - I don't see our favorite local restaurants going away because of chains. They ARE adapting and thriving. Some small bookstores thrive too, but it's tough in this economy. I'd never want to legislate WalMart or Starbucks away. They're disruptive and cause new opportunities. And I think that's a good thing.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
@Tad: I'd never legislate and do believe in adapting. Many bookstores do by selling online. It's all about what you really want around you IMO. I choose not to patronize certain stores because I see a serious and negative endgame.
- AJ Kohn
@AJ: why is amazon borg like, but apple isn't?
- Chris Hollander
@Chris: Pretty thought provoking actually. In some ways Apple is, but they're not trying to be the mall of the world and selling me baby bottles and lawn mowers at the same time. I find Apple is a bit more upfront with their goals and willing to create win-win situations. Amazon less so: http://tinyurl.com/4xvxo9 and http://tinyurl.com/3wtqd5
- AJ Kohn
all other things being equal, purchasing from iTunes involves slightly less effort. iTunes purchases go straight into my Library, whereas with Amazon I have to manually add folder/file to Library. (I think.)
- Karim
No lossless option. Until they add FLAC, ALAC, APE or something similar, they will get none of my business.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Karim, you can have the amazon mp3s added directly to your itunes *if* you download the amazon mp3 downloader.
- edythe
ah, thanks. I vaguely remembered reading something about that (I've only purchased tracks from Amazon a couple of times) but didn't want to install yet another piece software. I guess if I regularly purchased from Amazon, it would be worth the install.
- Karim
You've stated the question as either Amazon or iTunes. How about services such as eMusic ?
- Michael C. Harris
The same as Paul, simple, and efficient :)
- directeur
Ctrol-Apple-D - looks up the definition of any word your mouse is hovering over
- Patrick Lightbody
there are keyboard shortcuts? shoot! I just switched to Mac, forgive me :)
- Zach Landes
Ctrl-space (the default setting to activate quicksilver). If you like keyboard shortcuts, and you haven't tried quicksilver, I would highly recommend it. Basically you activate the app, start typing and it searches applications, bookmarks, documents, and all sorts of stuff (all customizable), and gives you a list of them in a window, and then a list of available actions, like 'open', 'send e-mail', 'calculate', or 'look up in dictionary'. Really cool, and free.
- Robert Felty
ctrl-space with quicksilver. without quicksilver it would be shift-apple-4
- Seth Gottlieb
from twhirl
Kevin, Thanks for the cntl-opt-cmd-8 tip. I was just getting annoyed in this coffee shop trying to find the cursor in google docs. This command just solved this for me.
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
Another reason why I like friendfeed for procrastination. It even helps my work! heh.
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
Just in case any of you have yet to find them all, open Keyboard ShortCuts in Keyboard & Mouse Preferences.
- John Lam
Apple-Tab for me. BTW, Ctrl-Apple-D does not work on all words, for example, fails in twirl for me. Otherwise, I didn't know that option so THANKS!
- Ivan Stegic
from twhirl
command(apple)-shift-/ opens help, and help goes and finds every other command in every application. i use it like i drink water.
- Michael Staton
Ivan: the dictionary service will only work in Cocoa- or Carbon-based applications. Non-cocoa/carbon applications like Twhirl (based on Adobe AIR) don't have access to it. One of my major sticking points in using ported applications.
- Mark Trapp
I use the 'capture' dashboard widget for screen capture. It has some additional options, like choosing how to save it (jpg,tiff,png,gif,pdf) the size (in pixels), and the quality. Pretty handy.
- Robert Felty
Thanks @Amit. From the guys that do Quicksilver. Nice. (Though ^⌘⌥8 is easy, and I don't want to stay in that mode for a long time. Just enough to give my eyes a break.)
- Daniel Shaw
IDK. I am very skeptical about epic undead movies.I love Jet Li, but it seems like whenever he is used in a domestic film, the film turns out poorly. He is better suited to films like Fearless and Once Upon a Time in China. We'll see.
- Jacob Nahin
Looks pretty good... much better than the other Brendan Fraser moving coming out. Journey to the Center of the Earth looks cheesy and cheap.
- Daniel Shaw
Simon - The original "The Mummy" was a classic. If this one is only half as good, it'll be wonderful.
- Mitch Wagner
as much as i want to disagree i cant, great post duncan
- sam
from twhirl
I wouldn't say I "like" this, per se, because it bums me out. But, it's VERY insightful.
- Brad McCrorey
Brad, I don't like it either, but people are definitely starting to give up on Twitter. I'm still sticking around, but as I said in the post, I'm spending a lot less time on Twitter now...and not just because I spend far too much time on FriendFeed now instead :-)
- Duncan Riley
ok who wants to start development if only I knew how to code. I think that twitter is goin down very fast and not even green line will help them what is consencus on deveolopment langue of choice?
- Charles Rice
from twhirl
Duncan - I'm not convinced it's dead yet IF they fix it like fast!
- Charlie Anzman
Duncan, your observations are probably correct if you only observe the community you're following. The same trend might be true amongst the other 1,499,999+ Twitter users, or it might not be. The fact that Twitter is still running into performance and availability issues tells me that people are NOT abandoning Twitter in droves. Personally, I haven't noticed a marked decline in stream activity.
- Dewald Pretorius
Dewald, I'm not alone in observing this and the links are in the post. Two respected guys noticed the same thing, and I'm pretty sure my Australian friends aren't in Dave Winer's community. If you haven't, great. Also I don't think performance is always directly related to load (or conversely that lower loads would fix the problem), I simply believe that the whole thing is probably broken now.
- Duncan Riley
Charlie, didn't say it was dead, said it has jumped the shark: past its prime, past its peak. Having said that, the longer the problems continue, the more people (in Rafe's words) they'll bleed.
- Duncan Riley
Duncan, when I look through my FF stream, most of the content consists of Twitter tweets. Without that, FF mostly turns into a self-promotional tool where folks promote their own blog posts. Bleh. I don't need that in my life. It's only now and again that one finds a worthwhile FF-only post.
- Dewald Pretorius
In addition, I think it's counter-productive for blog post discussions to occur on FF (like this one). Your blog post currently has only 5 comments, while this FF entry has 14 comments. Folks who find your post via Google don't have access to these FF comments. And, your blog isn't benefiting from all the fresh user-generated content these comments produce.
- Dewald Pretorius
If everyone's Twitter feed and FriendFeed feed looked the same, this argument would have a point.
- Bwana ☠
Dewald, Duncan has the FriendFeed plugin, so his FF comments will show up on his blog. Did you visit his blog?
- Bwana ☠
I just need friendfeed to develop into a viable mobile platform. I love my Twitterberry.
- Jacob Nahin
Bah... another web2.0 helper tool with no account/password encryption
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Bwana, oops, I apologize. I didn't scroll down far enough. Perhaps the FF plugin should be modified so that it merges the FF comments in with the native blog comments.
- Dewald Pretorius
Plurk started at a time when Twitter is in crisis, so it seems to me that they are "lucky" to be receiving quite some publicity. If Pownce or Jaiku had only started at this period of time, would they have been able to grow a "large, mainstream active community overnight"? I would think so.. Plurk executed on perfect timing in this case.
- Winston Teo
Winston, good observation. I'm seeing a lot of my non-techie friends flock to it as well, I suspect it has greater appeal outside the geek/ tech scene
- Duncan Riley
I really think this Twitter mass exodus is greatly exaggerated. A few hundred people in an echo chamber noisily complaining about Twitter and threatening to leave it might sound like the end for Twitter but I strongly disagree. Like it or not, there are lot of people outside of the echo chamber who have latched on to Twitter and they have zero interest in FriendFeed, Plurk, or whatever the next thing is. I will admit that the early adopters are disenchanted but there is a bigger world out there.
- Mike Doeff
@Duncan as in my post this evening the FF interface might appeal to the tech / early adopter but it won't to real web users .. Plurk on the other hand will because it is animated and colorful (the colors might suck but that is neither here nor there)
- Steven Hodson
Not even tons of money can save Twitter if the influencers start shifting attention somewhere else. Who was it that said influencers don't matter? Anderson? Fail. I'm watching it happen right now, in this post actually, and over the past 3-weeks across many other influenced laden bloggers. I call b.s. Influence matters big time. Oh yeah, and timing is f-ing everything. Everything.
- Jim Kukral
Dewald, turn the Tweets off, find some new friends. I share more from other people's sites than I even do my own stuff, and so do a lot of the people I follow. I find a ton of interesting stuff that way, and if there's the occasional bit of self promotion so be it, but it's not the be all and end all of FF, at least my FriendFeed experience.
- Duncan Riley
@stvehodson agree. The mix on Plurk is defintely not got a tech/ geek bias. My non-techie/ first adopter friends seem to be thriving there. FF though can mainstream, but I'll concede it's not a shiny and friendly to non firstadopters/ geeks.
- Duncan Riley
it won't help matters either if the developers get fed up and start switching their attention elsewhere
- Steven Hodson
just because someone signs up for plurk, doesn't mean their abandoning Twitter, it will be interesting how long people will stay with Plurk, it seems a little confusing to me. Twitter is so simple.
- Kim Landwehr
We have had people using Twitter as a serious communication tool carving out connections and opportunities for business. In those circumstances you need something that you can rely on which we obviously can't at present. Regardless of the service or other means adopted, these connections are going to be taken elsewhere to more reliable platform and, once establishe, will not return irrespective of how reliable Twitter becomes again in the future. It's a big loss.
- Colin Walker
@Colin .. ya .. I can just see Plurk in a corporate boardroom or on the big screen at conferences like they have with Twitter in the past :)
- Steven Hodson
Occasional downtime wouldn't bother me as much. I'd probably huff and puff a little and keep going, but it's impossible to be active on a site when it simply doesn't load or craps out when you try to perform some sort of action. Anyway, I'm using friendfeed to keep up on things now, even tweets.
- Paul Short
Agreed. Twitter is seeing strong adoption by my non tech friends. The gadly Scoble types might move on, but a real userbase is still there.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
plurk is cool just need IM service back online +1 for jaiku
- Tyler Gillies
I agree with Mike Doeff's opinion that this Twitter mass exodus is greatly exaggerated. Look, even if all of Robert Scoble's 26,537 Twitter followers "exodus" from Twitter, that still leaves roughly 1,473,463+ other users, many of whom don't know any of the tech influencers and couldn't care less what they say and where they go next. An influencer exodus might kill your personal interest in Twitter. It wouldn't kill Twitter for everybody.
- Dewald Pretorius
Dewald: I am not leaving Twitter. As long as there are early adopters still there, I'll be there, no matter how much pain it brings us all. Now, if we all move somewhere else? I'll follow them there too. I'm on Plurk, Jaiku, Pownce, Facebook, and here, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
so the a-listers have an inferior product in twitter, aka heroin, right now and following the sage advice of stringer bell they have renamed it - friendfeed and plurk - both interesting products in their own right, but not quite perfect substitutes either. i still find myself agreeing with steve gillmor, the junkies will return, they're just waiting for a better product. it's very hard to stay straight...
- rob zand
At least if some of the A-listers leave, there will be less noise for the rest of us.
- Kirk Kittell
OK, first Jeremiah turns meme into a contraction that is off from its original meaning...now "jumping the shark" is being misused. Perhaps, if Twitter became the subject of a sitcom, like Til Death, as opposed to even say The Big Bang Theory, that might be JTS. But downtime and bad service and limited feature sets is simply not delivering to its audience.
- Marc Vermut
details? how long is the military controlled? even our constitution has provisions for a temporary dictatorship.
- Noah David Simon
Simply, the basic question is, what constitutes a sovereign state? What is the difference between invading a militia/village and an "established" government.
- Jacob Nahin
Interesting concept. I'm not sure that I'd ever give up the management of my personal brand to anyone, no matter how good they are.
- Mike Doeff
Not sure if he needs one ;-) he rocks all by his amazing self!
- Susan Beebe
Your selling yourself short man. Scoble's never gonna break out of his very limited uber-geek niche appeal. Put that effort into managing brand Eric Rice.
- Rob Safuto
Rob, I don't think it's as easy to manage your own brand. Outside eyes are needed. That's why brand managers exist. It's like designing your own biz card or web page--- over and over and over and just not getting it right. But for others, oh hell yeah. Cake.
- Eric Rice
unnecessary - agree w/ rob go w/ brand managing yourself ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
An objective eye can help a lot, even with an awesome brand. And who would say I want to manage x's brand if they didn't already have something going.
- Goldie Katsu
Goldie: It's like a car needing a tune-up. Fine tuning. Not totally Michael Caine/Steve Martin in the movie Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Just gotta move the train off the track for a second to inspect and assess and tune.
- Eric Rice
I think there's definitely a lot of value in Eric Rice being a facilitator for companies to enter the social media or gaming space. Help a company that's not on the inside to get in and do it right.
- Rob Safuto
@Robert Scoble so you don't have a personal assistant yet? ;)
- Jacob Nahin
Robert: Be careful what you sign, or you might have to go as "The podcaster formerly known as Scoble" until the contract's term expires. Then again, some of the fringe unicode characters are pretty cool looking...
- Kevin Fox
@Simon I offered him before than you - If it was an offer :-)
- Erhan Erdogan
Eric your mind is a weird and wacky place...
- Dave Peck
Yeah, we have really entered the world of people as person brands.
- Tris Hussey
@Tris I really love the idea of person brands. In some way it validates my obsessive-compulsive urge to grab my username everywhere ;)
- Andrés David Aparicio
from twhirl
@Tris Like a Beckham perfume - I want a "21 inch Scoble LCD monitor" : ) Will you buy it like me? : )
- Erhan Erdogan
Heh, I'll take the Scoble brand RSI wrist support strap. ;-)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Dunno-Scoble is interesting as an antenna, you're interesting as a transmitter
- Mark Forman
Scoble is one of a kind...and you are comparing him to other products?
- Luke Harvey-Palmer
Eric, I think you have lost it. Can you imagine trying to rein him in to stay on message?
- Cyndy
All kidding aside, I had this kind of problem to a degree for a while. For a while I had about 12 blogs I wrote professionally, plus my own personal one. It got to the point where I had diluted my brand. I couldn't say what "my blog" was, or what I blogged about. I had to pull back, focus, and learn to manage "my personal brand".
- Tris Hussey
Cyndy not really, it just takes a nerves of steel. ;)
- Eric Rice