yes, but i've learned to slow down on that or else it's self-defeating. now i just fill my stomach up with water after a workout and then eat a light dinner (provided i work out before dinner)
- Cee Bee
LOL Yep. 5 - 6 meals a day and I still go to be hungry.
- Admiral Anika
yes, its increased my one meal a day to two (sometimes), ;)
- chaz2b
Depends on the workout. Biking to work does not change my eating pattern much because it's generally low intensity and if I do a hard ride, it's on the way home after I've eaten the bulk of my daily calories. My 50+ mile long rides do generally leave me a few pounds heavier, both because of eating while I'm on a long ride, because of eating after the workout, and because the next day I need to eat more than usual if I want to not feel crappy.
- Wirehead
i don't remember. but i'll let you know when i finally get around to the working out part.
- Morgan Haley
yes, mostly due to the 330 calorie post-workout drink - other than that, no - same 5 meals a day
- William Harryman
I eat a bit more protein on days I work out.
- Janet
Does that work, Janet? I am not sure if I should eat lots of protein every day or just on workout days. It's a bit of a chore to remember to stuff myself with protein so I like to think I can get away with only doing it on workout days but I'm probably kidding myself.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Isn't a boost in protein good on strength training days? To "feed" the muscles that are in repair post-workout? Not sure how that works on cardio days.
- Derrick
IIRC, the average American diet contains a significant excess of protein already. OTOH, I'm a big fan of a tall glass of chocolate milk right after a hard workout. Mostly because I feel better, but also because it's suggested that you really should get a bunch of protein immediately after a workout by sports physiology. To repair the muscles.
- Wirehead
post weight training (for muscle growth): 0.4 grams of protein (whey) per kg of bodyweight + 0.8 grams of simple sugars (dextrose) per kg of bodyweight [for weight loss, ditch the sugars] -- cardio is different, you want @ 25 grams of protein (whey) one hour before cardio, then nothing for 1-2 hrs post cardio, then eat as normal (which should be complex carbs and proteins)
- William Harryman
When I run I don't... But if I do weight training I find I get hungry more.
- orionstarr
Not sure which is funnier...seeing this printed on a box or knowing that somewhere out there is a machine that is intentionally printing this on thousands of boxes!
- Bill Lunsford
"A nice little resource I recently found is Washingtonian's Happy Hour Finder. It's a good little tool to find spots quickly to enjoy a cheap drink:"
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
"I was working through a simple keyword discovery for a recent client when I decided that it would make sense to again reiterate why intelligent keyword discovery is essential to effective Search Engine Optimization."
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
No matter how exactly you do it - you *must* do a deep dive on keyword discovery and research before any major SEO effort. Too many still gloss over this step and miss opportunities or target only highly competitive keywords.
- AJ Kohn
Thanks, AJ for showing me a glimpse of the error I am making. I have literally been driving up the cost of our own adword campaigns by clicking on and driving traffic to the sponsored ads. Conversion is the the new mantra, no more CPM and CPC ads for this company. CPA and a committed understanding of source and key word conversion factor's are a vital focus of our efforts going forward. Show me what actually converts and I will gladly pay for it.
- Eric Logan
Thanks for the link to our blog. Glad it was helpful!
- Virante
@Eric: Yes, at the end of the day it's about yield. How much does the traffic cost and how much did you make from it. You can still buy CPM and CPC but you need to ensure it all pencils out in the back-end. Even in SEO, traffic for its own sake is ... pointless really unless you can use it in some way (e.g - conversion, multiple page views/advertising).
- AJ Kohn
@Virante: My pleasure - it's a great primer.
- AJ Kohn
Ditto to what AJ just said. You need to be looking at a multiplicity of metrics for any online campaign. Don't listen to anyone who tells you "it's all about CTR" or "it's all about _____"
- Mark Traphagen
It'd be nice if they showed you how to actually get your username/URL on each site. On a couple (e.g. Facebook) it's not possible, and on others it's not obvious.
- Ken Sheppardson
sent this, but can't find the original tweet: "RT @PRsarahevans: Next up for the @namechk team: working on auto-registration feature. Will take time, stay tuned!" -Edit: Just confirmed by @namechk no ETA on auto-register, but it IS in the works. ("Lots of other features too" )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Hahahahah I just "rediscovered" my revver account, Thanks Robert!
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Am I the only person who hates the term "surfing" in respect to web browsing?
- Gabe
@Gabe, I don't particularly hate the term surfing, but I do think it's rather dated and Nintiesish.
- Christian (Simply X)
It's true: I used IE to dl first three versions of Firefox, but ditched it due to bloatiness. Now I'm back to IE and Chrome.
- Jemm
you can try to pry ie from my dead cold hands :(
- chaz2b
streaming netflix movies 90% downloading chrome 10%
- David Lynch
So, if were to somehow magically find a copy of Windows without IE, install it on a virgin computer, how do I get "the first" browser in there without a browser? I have to go to Babbage's and buy a Firefox 3.5" ?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, USB stick containing the Firefox installer.
- AJ Batac
AJ: What do you do when you configure a machine remotely?
- Gabe
If you can access the machine remotely, you can open up a folder (share) so you can dump in your Firefox installer.
- AJ Batac
I try and avoid using IE whenever possible If I go to someones house or to another computer, I bring my usb drive and use portable Opera or Firefox. I hate Internet Explorer. I refuse to use it. At least at my school they let you use IE or Firefox
- Patrick
from twhirl
@David Lynch You don't need IE to use Netlfix Watch Instantly. So stop using it! ;o)
- Paul Reynolds
IE8 is a much improved version, although Firefox is still milesahead imo
- Nicholas James
The one place where sadly I have to use IE, is with home grown enterprise apps that my company makes for getting at the databases, HR filings, etc. They mostly work Firefox, but when they don't hours of work can be wiped out :(
- Matthew DeVries
If somehow IE disappeared from your Windows computer, there's always "ftp ftp.mozilla.org" from the command line :)
- Victor Ganata
They forgot "testing code for the people too clueless to switch to something else." That's the only time I use it.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
@Matthew but then it wouldn't be FriendFeed :) ...seriously, comment ranking would allow more compact commenting because instead of dedicating a line each for "+1 whoever" (and typing it) you could just click an arrow-up or something and a score would appear next to it. If ya want, mouse-over the score to see who upped it. Let's make the web easier to use.
- Glenn Batuyong
I use it to test for clueless people and, sigh, Quickbooks ONLINE. Yep, I have to keep VMWare Fusion/XP/IE handy so I can use a web app. It's almost criminal.
- Paul Reynolds
Have you seen Hacker News? I love their ranking implementation :)
- AJ Batac
Glenn and thus killing the social website and making it a popularity website. It's just for finding out what your trusted followers think is interesting, not for building popularity through the coolness of your posts.
- Matthew DeVries
I am force fed IE @ work for enterprise apps. We might as well be using command line database software, IE only apps make me sick.
- Pete Delucchi
I don't even use IE to download Firefox, I use Firefox to download Firefox for other computers. Use a flash drive and use a portable version of Firefox.
- Patrick
from twhirl
"Online marketing is a strange world to the outsider, filled with jargon, buzzwords and rapidly developing language. One phrase in particular which seems to confuse many of my clients is social media marketing. I"
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
"[Chrome] Extremely skinny, but very cool and friendly. However, when it comes to the bedroom, she is very inexperienced and has little to offer. [IE] For most, she's the first woman they tried. She's really easy but can get you infected." LOL
- Mona Nomura
The pictures are the right choices for the captions, imo. Lighten up, people. It's a joke!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
The only reason I'm staying away from chrome is because of they have terrible RSS. I haven't used Opera in a long time and I love FireFox because of what it can do with Twitter.
- Patrick
from twhirl
funny. I like Firefox the best. But in seriousness, the chrome gal is dangerously thin.
- Rick Cogley
I would take firefox anyday of the week :-) Out of those, how would internet explorer look? Would it be an eighty year old granny or some such?
- Richard A.
I don't agree.... try manging online without google....
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob, That girl seems so unhealty. As a man I am just considering the look of the girls :D not the actual functionality of the browsers.
- Hakan Yuksel
I love Firefox for the extensions, of course. Safari and Chrome, for me, anyway, are one and the same.
- Mike Nayyar
lol... the firefox gal sure looks great tho ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
& Google starves it's employees & keeps them in cages
- sofarsoShawn
lol... ok.. whatever, so you just state online that they ARE investigating it... which aint what I asked... I asked if YOU wewre in the CIA?
- Rob Sellen :o)
"The common name for the fish is 'barreleyes.' Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute investigators recently figured out why this species has such an unusual head. Its eyes can actually rotate within its 'skull,' so the transparency allows the wary swimmer to keep a literal eye on happenings above it, as well as to the sides and directly in front."
- Corie
from Bookmarklet
"It can also rotate its eyes to avoid predators, or to avoid being caught by scientists." :)
- Steve C
Every time I see this fish ? When it pops back to the top of the feed it freaks me out. I can't Imagine the response if I came across one while diving in my peripheral vision.
- Eric Logan
I wish I had a head like that. So people can see pass me for who I am. :)
- imabonehead
@Eric How about: "Holy crap! I'm below 900 fsw!"
- Kevin D. White
I won't hire anyone I can't find details in Google about. So, make sure you feed it good stuff about you. That's why I think it's necessary to blog now if you're looking for a job. But Seth's post reminds you to blog about what you want to do and make sure you think about the consequences.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
"Everything you do now ends up in your permanent record. The best plan is to overload Google with a long tail of good stuff and to always act as if you're on Candid Camera, because you are."
- V Mary Abraham
V Mary: at Microsoft we taught each other to always pretend that everything you said would get onto the front page of the New York Times.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: We understand this, but how do we help teens eager for an FB page understand this?
- V Mary Abraham
I agree, It's good to know what those people think you will be working with
- Helge V. Keitel
V Mary: my son, who is 15, was talking to me about that last night. He said he doesn't put a lot of weird stuff on his facebook or myspace pages because he knows other kids will use it against him. His friends bug him about that too.
- Robert Scoble
As a college student, I actually think a lot of "millennial" types monitor pretty closely what's on their social network pages. They may make poor decisions about which pictures are appropriate, but believe me, a lot of thought goes behind it. Just because there's Facebook, MySpace, and Google doesn't make drinking and drugs any less "cool" in college.
- James O'Malley
from twhirl
To bring this into real life, too, last night I was listening to two guys who were griping about being laid off. Both had weird punk haircuts. Both had bad attitudes. Neither were talking about creating something that would get them noticed in the global marketplace, just that they had been screwed by the system. They might have had a point, but it wasn't going to get their jobs back. Get a haircut that tells other people that they are professional and upstanding. Then go volunteer time somewhere. Geesh.
- Robert Scoble
i've preached this to my teens constantly, what you do online lasts forever and even if you think it's in a closed network like fb that only you're friends can see it doesn't matter, it will surface - the frontpage of ny times is being replaced by search filters and bots - i'd rather see folks own their brands via ownership of their profile(s) and a domain that's theirs that maintains pointers to everything they want to publish/share about themselves and their interests
- mike "glemak" dunn
In the long run, all stupidity on Facebook (and like places) will be forgiven... There'll be so much dirt on everyone that nobody cares anymore. Private live doesn't say much about one's professional performance. It's just that everyone wants to pretend that they're very well behaved everywhere.... This masquerade will slowly disappear.
- Meryn Stol
"Get a haircut that tells other people that they are professional and upstanding. Then go volunteer time somewhere." Indeed. It's so sad to see people with a victim-attitude.
- Meryn Stol
"The best plan is to overload Google with a long tail of good stuff " I like that bit.
- Meryn Stol
+1 Meryn! Stop being so buttoned up and just have fun!
- Brad Williamson
There is no such thing as privacy anymore. Everything is public and saved for ever. It is harder and harder to control your personal brand. Bruce Schneier wrote an interesting article yesterday. http://tinyurl.com/c74rxa Here is a short quote : "Welcome to the future, where everything about you is saved. A future where your actions are recorded, your movements are tracked, and your...
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- Tapio Kulmala
I'd like to clarify that I think that one's personal life doesn't matter, *as long as* someone displays a good professional attitude. Hopefully this shows from your Google search, or similar.
- Meryn Stol
If someone's haircut is how you judge them, I believe that can be adequately described as superficial. Who decides what a "professional hair cut" is? I don't think a haircut has anything to do with a victim attitude.
- coldbrew
"a haircut has anything to do a victim attitude". Objectively, you're right, Coldbrew, but if your potential employers truly dislikes your haircut, it decreases your chances of being hired. Doing everything you can to adapt to the environment if you're in trouble is the only right strategy. Otherwise, you're just blaming the environment, which won't bring you any further. If you're in an environment where people don't care about your haircut, all the better for you. :)
- Meryn Stol
Robert, it sounds like your son has his head on straight. My impression is that is quite rare among teens who often seem to feel that they are exceptional (invincible?) and just won't get caught.
- V Mary Abraham
coldbrew: Malcom Gladwell and others teach us that job decisions are made in the first 30 seconds. So, having a professional looking attire may make the difference. It sure does with me. I don't want to work with people who look unprofessional. Yesterday I visited Cisco. I noticed that the guy who met me was wearing a suit and tie. He sure isn't going to hire you if you wear a ratty t-shirt, have tatoos showing, and have a punk haircut.
- Robert Scoble
Thankfully, in Boulder, it is seen as odd to wear a tie. It is exactly this type of attitude that makes me appreciate co-founding my own organization where we set the values, and they have nothing to do with appearance (ok, maybe the sales person's appearance is linked to performance).
- coldbrew
I worked for a CEO once that wouldn't hire people that were overweight because he believed it demonstrated a lack of self-respect. Obviously, we had to part ways :)
- coldbrew
Coldbrew, I like your "tolerance", but accepting others "intolerance" is part of life. That is, if you're on the needy side.
- Meryn Stol
coldbrew: exactly. But I bet you have your own little biases on hiring. I know I have mine. Of course I still hired Rocky, who rides a Harley, has tatoos, etc. So there. :-) Funny enough, though, he was sort of forced on me at Podtech and we found that we got along after a while.
- Robert Scoble
It didn't matter, he was judging by appearance like Scoble is suggesting is ok.
- coldbrew
Should I share my old handle with my employers; Goatse.cx ?
- Matthew DeVries
Ok, Scoble, I should have guessed these were mere guidelines, but I'd rather encourage people to base their decisions on things like productivity, insight, creativity, etc.
- coldbrew
coldbrew: I'm not sure I quite got to the point where I condoned it, just explained it happens all the time. This is why you wear decent clothes to interviews. Me? I look at what you do online. Your online reputation is important to me if I'm going to hire you.
- Robert Scoble
Colbrew, I'm not sure he's suggesting that.
- Meryn Stol
Yeah, when you are hiring for the PR industry,I suppose image is important.
- coldbrew
coldbrew: research shows that people don't actually hire on anything but the first 30 seconds impression. The rest of it is justification. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I take it this is all hypothetical, meant as advice, since Rocky was laid off. I assume you aren't *actually* hiring... or are you? And another question... I have many other interests besides programming, and I do not own the I.P. developed on someone else's dime, thus cannot blog about it. Since my blog to date is "me minus programming," and there is a glut of good blogs about programming, I'm not sure this advice applies. Does my public LinkedIn profile solve this dilemma? Thanks in advance....
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Richard: some day I will be in position to hire once again. Some day. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Richard: I'd rather you be able to point to a blog where you have demos, samples, and other examples of what kind of programming turns you on. That demonstrates to me that you actually know what you're talking about, rather than LinkedIn, which just is a resume.
- Robert Scoble
I have done that for several years. Now its quite more relevant because of all the social info, but even 4-5 years ago you were able in some cases to find a small crumb trail.
- RicardoSilva
I consider google as a hiring resource tool one step above handwriting analysis and astrology and too many steps below valuable methods or tools. The red flag is that too many people on the internet turn out to be very different in real life and that is not just the extreme examples. Overlooking that fact to me says a lot. Easy info is often of little value.
- Erwin Blonk
Where are those days where you could just lie about who you are to get a job ? :) update: [/sarcasm] (Just in case anyone misses it)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Erwin: the problem is that if you advertise a job right now you'll get hundreds, or thousands, of responses. So you MUST filter them down to, say, 10, to have any chance of getting any work done. That's why the Internet is such an important part of your career plan. You won't get past the filtering stage if you don't work on that.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert, I could at least go through all my programming-related items and feed them to tumblr...
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
@robert, you'd miss out on alot of prospects from entertainment biz, then. a lot of the industry doesn't want people to find them - it's more word of mouth, intros, relationships, etc.
- Patricia
Robert: these comment sections are too short to discuss it in any depth, so I'll do with what I get :) Also I do value your opinion and insight and I get your point. People do,with or without intent, paint a picture of themselves online that has little to do with who they are. Maybe 10% of the info has value. Use it with discretion. Otherwise it is like the Salzburger insurance company that only hires from 5 astrological signs (in the news a month ago).
- Erwin Blonk
Robert: from another angle, anyone has to keep in mind that whether it's worth anything or not, it will be used. I have had my blog mentioned in an interview 2 years ago once and they got an image of me that was sligthly too positive in some aspects to the point I had to tone it down a bit. Yet I had not done anything to make me look better, I was just blogging on things tech,
- Erwin Blonk
Not disagreeing with you about first impressions counting, but I was hiring in late 2002 - early 2003 - when there were also far more candidates than jobs, and there were a huge number of candidates who wore 'professional' clothes and had 'professional' resumes, but no talent at all. Most of the people who were worth hiring stood out in some way. Not nose-rings and tattoos, but at least some amount of individuality, implying a level of confidence in their ability to perform rather than just conform.
- Robin Barooah
It all depends on the character of the company and the nature of the position. Personally, I wouldn't want to be associated with any organization that judged people so superficially based on tattoos, piercings, hair color or style. If I was a client and walked into an office with little variation in attire and personal grooming, I'd run away scared and really wonder about how such an atmosphere could foster much creativity.
- LogEx
We've surfaced thousands of people and brands using social media for branding. see http://media.tEarn.com/ Old media guys have terrible brands. New media has been very aggressive.
- DJ Chang
Been thinking about how to extract information of any value from a person search on google: gather all the data - make a timeline - find out the context of each bit of data- remove data based on other persons with the same name - set aside all your personal religious, ideological etc preferences - that's just the tip of the iceberg. You might get some relevant information. In short, if you spend less then a few hours on one person, you have nothing.
- Erwin Blonk
These factors should be evaluated in context. I might not hire a starving artist in a long-term full-time position but to clean my house every week or two? Why not? Otherwise that smacks of the sort of elitism that gives elitism a bad name.
- Kyle Maxwell
Observing this trend of googleing everybody is part of the reason why I started http://www.extendr.com. Among the many reasons it fits in this conversation is at least that most of us don't have the time or expertise to game Google to get the results we want. Why not create a page of your web footprint and start sharing that place? Your candor in my experience will not go unnoticed.
- Joseph Rueter
joseph - i think your site/product will be useful to some folks trying to create one location to point to & not have to create their own - i've been using using http://glemak.com for years for just that reason, but i wouldn't be in your demo ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I'm a very open person; I post about many topics most people would consider private or controversial (or both) and often very publicly. I always do so knowing that I am posting ONLINE and that anyone could potentially see my comments. Any lesser awareness is either naiveté or stupidity. Be bold (and accept the consequences) or be private.
- fn (fairnymph)
"Written by Amit Agarwal on February 24, 2009 Text Size beethovenVirgil Griffith, popularly known for the Wikipedia Scanner that detects where the Wikipedia edits are coming from, maintains another very interesting project that maps musical tastes of college students with their intelligences levels (determined by their SAT score). The x-axis represent the SAT score while the colored boxes indicate the music genre and the artist / composer. Fans of Lil Wayne’s music scored the lowest in SAT while listeners of Beethoven’s work were among the highest scorers. The full chart is available at Music That Makes You Dumb. To come up with this chart, Virgil used Facebook to determine the "Favorite music" at different colleges in US and then combined it with the average combined SAT scores of students from these colleges. He has done a similar exercise for books as well.
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
counting crows though? it's like that? ha
- Cee Bee
I wish the list was bigger or more diverse. I'm surprised by Jazz. Also that some of the list is specific to an artist (i.e. Beck) and others are an entire genre (rap). Where would your favorite musicians fall?
- JoEllen
How does cowbell rate? Yeah, just straight cowbell. What?
- Christopher Harley
LOL. Yeah, how did they manage to separate rap and hip-hop?
- Victor Ganata
This is retarded. I got a 1370 on my SAT's an listen to a variety of stuff across this chart.Besides the fact that I don't think SAT scores are a good indicator of intelligence.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
C'mon, Shey. You and I and Rah as well know that this is completely unable to predict anything.
- Christopher Harley
@Christopher I'm just ticked that someone would come up with something so blatantly full of prejudice.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
There is data here that's probably useful for something, but the test is whether or not you're dumb enough to think that the title is even close to accurate.
- Richard Lawler
Apparently people who score >1400 don't listen to music at all? So listening to *any* music makes you dumb!
- Victor Ganata
I'd assume there aren't (any/enough?) colleges with an average SAT score of 1400.
- Richard Lawler
+2 Shey. I guess Jazz is for dummies? But Jay-Z is "smarter" LMFAO ...
- Amani
In other words, this study doesn't measure what it says it measures.
- Victor Ganata
this is so easy to pick apart. and the writer of the headline is too stupid to know why.
- tiffany
I bet that if you actually did this study properly, by obtaining individual SAT scores and weighing each individual's favorite music, this graph would look entirely different. Of course, it still wouldn't mean that SAT scores actually measure intelligence.
- Victor Ganata
This Virgil guy went to my high school (a few years after me) and he's a smart cookie. Before lambasting the article I recommend you skip straight to his analysis - it's grounded in reality. http://www.virgil.gr/44 It's well known that white students historically perform better on US standardized tests, and no one honestly believes that means they are innately smarter. There is simply some lingering cultural bias in the construction of the tests as well as in our education system.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
"Do people with SAT >= 1400 just not listen to music? No, they do listen to music -- just look at those high-tier school's facebook profiles! *Averages* are being plotted. So even though high-scoring schoools are included in this average, the average is pulled down by the less selective schools."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
"Counting Crows is an usual one near the top of the list. However, when UPenn Princeton, Duke, Williams, and Upenn make up ~20% of the weight you'd expect a high score." Counting Crows is from Berkeley, so it's understandable that they'd easily relate to students at top-tier schools.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Also realize that the guy is doing his best to extrapolate this information without having access to individual's preferences or test scores. (Methodology here: http://booksthatmakeyoudumb.virgil.gr/) Multiplying one aggregated top 10 list of favorites against another averaged standardized test score and then weighting them by population against similar numbers from other schools is...
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- Daniel J. Pritchett
But why bother doing it if it won't reflect reality at all? There's no need to talk about correlation ≠ causation when you haven't even established correlation properly.
- Victor Ganata
I scored a 1300 on my SATs, and I enjoy plenty of the music in the 1000 range. I think this study is more of a correlation than casuation. Lower SAT scores --> Poorer quality education --> Lower economic standing --> differing tastes in music.
- Mike Nayyar
Victor - I imagine the author is doing this for the impish self-satisfaction of seeing the reaction generated by the chart. This also gets him some national press, something he seems to have been generating every year or two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) for most of the decade. At this point I imagine that he's doing it on purpose and has a goal that involves being semi-famous on the internets and in tech academia.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
He's doing it to get attention, hence the name.
- Richard Lawler
Exactly, Richard. He's gotten pretty good at that and he seems to be enjoying himself enough to keep it up with new "discoveries" every so often.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
But it's not even correlation. As Daniel notes, you're measuring aggregates against averages. The data. It means nothing!
- Victor Ganata
Daniel, LOL. I imagine you're right. Why do I always get duped into thinking people actually care about anything vaguely resembling the truth?
- Victor Ganata
I'm curious about the process and schools used. Not too many "young "people listen to the music with the higher scores... Seeing Jazz so low is hurtful too. Did they mean smooth jazz or Bebop?
- Anthony Farrior
“Soca” isn’t a band. It’s a form of music from the West Indies. More importantly, soca is from an area that leans toward Great Britain and Europe. Listeners of this music usually speak more than one language so I find it funny to believe they aren’t as intelligent b/c they score low on American tests…
- Anthony Farrior
Anthony - Notice that all of the genres are between 800 and 1000. All that tells us is that the subset of colleges with Facebook pages and publicized SAT scores average out to ~900 on the SAT. Virgil points out in the FAQ that not all schools have listed Facebook pages or published SAT scores. You can imagine that schools would self-select out of those pools for various reasons.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
re: jazz/ soca--Doesn't this chart simply indicate that listeners of these 2 genres don't frequent FaceBook? or do I really need to 'wise-up' and put away my MIles Davis records and listen to Blink 182/ Ludacris. FAIL!!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Yeah, it would be nice if—like a "real scientist" (to use his own words)—he would list the reasons why this methodology doesn't work very well, but that's probably asking too much.
- Victor Ganata
I'm not an expert on raw data integrity but maybe the Non-US genres should've been omitted...
- Anthony Farrior
Cool, so if I had ever taken my SAT, I would have scored high. :)
- Grant Bierman
While I'll gladly accept the label "outlier", sung to the tune of "Lowrider", I have some real problems with this study.
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
from fftogo
we knew socioeconomic background correlates with SAT scores... and now we discover that music taste is correlated with socioeconomic background? ;)
- ௸ (k2g)
This so called "study" is basically crap, yes.
- ⓞnor
That map lost all credibility we me as soon as I saw it indicates that Counting Crows fans are among the smartest - I have no idea why but I dislike that band more than any that has ever existed...in all of time and space...of course I may just be an idiot
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
From what I hear Google already looks for 3.5s from "top tier" schools or something similar as their default hiring criteria. Woof.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Creativity seems more important than IQ for "old-school success" after IQ > 120. But what does it mean for "new-school happy-with-life fulfillment"? College GPA/SAT correlations http://gradeinflation.com GRE/SAT-IQ Estimator http://iqcomparisonsite.com/GREIQ... (e.g. snobby Mensa wants top 2% = IQ 130-132, 1995-2006SAT=1295-1320 1974-1994SAT=1250-1270 1932SAT=1190-1210) and yes the pre-1974 Mensa scale is messed up.
- Mitchell Tsai
Yeah... because people who listen to country are WAY smarter than people who listen to jazz or rock...
- Brandon Titus
SAT rescaling/recentering occurs often http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Current scores are 0-2400. Even on the old 1600 pt scale, when SAT recentered in April 1995, scores inflated ~80-120 pts (70-80 verbal, 10-40 math), which made them 1/3 as useful for us working Harvard admissions. http://professionals.collegeboard.com/data-re... P.S. Harvard has no minimum requirement - some people with 400s & 500s are admitted. I haven't seen any admissions with 300s, who knows?
- Mitchell Tsai
My guess is that people at smarter schools want to portray an image that they're smarter, thus they list only "smart" bands + genres on their Facebook. GW has a 1240 avg. SAT and the musical tastes here are definitely more to the lefthand side. FWIW, I really like Radiohead and Shins, though. Plus, Ben Folds played a show on campus last week.
- James O'Malley
I like Beyonce, Gospel, Hip Hop...also U2, Counting Crows, Bob Dylan, so I guess that makes me schizophrenic...both 900 and 1200. Interesting stories about musical talent/IQ abound. Some speculate that Mozart had extremely high musical talent with low IQ, thus the technical simplicity of his pieces. Others say that the most interesting music for people is the stuff which pushes their edge (thus, country music listeners are less intelligent). What a way to be controversial!
- Mitchell Tsai
Pop can be a road to financial/career success for musical talents. I love the texture of a lot of Debbie Gibson's songs (and many here have commented on my lack of musical taste... :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... She was a classical music prodigy when young, and I enjoy the multiple lines of melody/harmony/sounds in some of her pieces. I'm not much into boring basslines and thumping bass. My life is pretty good, so I often don't connect with pieces with too much anger/angst.
- Mitchell Tsai
I said this in Sarah's thread but my SAT scores isn't on the X axis and I listen to Weezy.
- Mona Nomura
There's some serious racial effects at play here. But Jazz?!?
- Dror Shimshowitz
Kang pretty much spells it out earlier. One of the things the SAT is good at measuring is your socioeconomic status. In the U.S., SES is tightly coupled to race. It looks like 1076 is roughly the line that splits white artists from artists of color. I guess the only thing up in the air is whether people are more likely to prefer (although not necessarily exclusively so) music performed and/or created by artists of similar ethnic/racial background. Then you've got your chain of causation.
- Victor Ganata
"I am reading, and just “liked” this post. Anyway, in friendfeed you should teach people to use lists. For instance, create a list called “noisy assholes” and put me on it. That way I won’t disturbe your other friends and drown them out, even if I get really noisy. Also, I did a video that shows how to use friendfeed and do more with it: http://friendfeed.com/e..."
- Robert Scoble
I have a separate list called Scoble.
- Bill Romanos
"Business-to-business marketers say they plan to increase spending on online performance-based ads in 2009 - at the expense of traditional display ads - as they seek clearer, more measurable returns during the economic downturn, according to a research report from Econsultancy, sponsored by Convera."
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
"I am like a puddle on the floor after seeing this picture of a fireman giving some water to a parched koala bear. Look at the koala's little tongue! And the koala's paw on the fireman's hand! The koala is so polite and so thankful! Like a little person! This makes me want to truckjack a Sparklett's water truck and drive through the ocean to Australia."
- joneilortiz
from Bookmarklet
Ah, mystery solved (though it's far less interesting than all of us have speculated). Apparently -- unbeknownst to me -- my guy friend had changed his last name many years before I met him. And I never knew the last name of his fiance. Whew! :)
- Adam Lasnik
2. RT smart people's stuff but add onto it with a good comment.
- Robert Scoble
3. If you have something smart to say, say it to someone directly like "Hey @techcrunch you should check out the new Palm Pre."
- Robert Scoble
I now await the inevitable flood of "RTs" of this message ;-)
- Warren
4. Send wine or other bribes to people who make lots of noise.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds like someone's running low on wine :)
- Eric Florenzano
5. If you are friends with a real celebrity bring them around at blogger/twitter parties. Make sure you get them to follow you and remember your name. All good twitterers have iPhones or other phones that they can tweet from.
- Robert Scoble
6. Put your twitter and friendfeed addresses on your business cards.
- Robert Scoble
7. Talk shit about Eric Florenzano. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Ok, well that's *someone's* blog done for tomorrow, then! :)
- WorldofHiglet
8. Follow people back if they add value. 1938media has added 1,000 new followers since he started following everyone back.
- Robert Scoble
What kind of wine goes with bribe? Did you ask GaryVee while in Vegas?
- Dave Cadoff
9. Talk shit about that Scoble dude. Yeah, me. Sometimes it gets a link and a follow. Especially if you teach me something while you are calling me an idiot.
- Robert Scoble
LOL *hands Robert a bottle of wine* Please add the "don't pout or make a twitter fuss when you notice someone drops you. Insecurity isn't a attraction"
- Sprite
10. Be interesting. Craig Newmark got hundreds of follows in first evening (I was the first to follow him) after I tweeted about him. Why? Because he was interesting already.
- Robert Scoble
Remember it's not about the followers - it's about the relationships. Your purpose of having many followers should be so you can build relationships with as many of them as possible.
- Jesse Stay
11. Do something sensational like tatoo your twitter address onto your face.
- Robert Scoble
BTW, (real-life) relationships then bring more followers
- Jesse Stay
Wine? Bribe? Anything will get noticed. Better yet, put a custom label on it and include your Twitter address on it.
- Robert Scoble
Liked for the 'talk shit about Scoble'. Also, Scoble, do you accept Mead?
- Will Higgins™
12. Hang out with Jesse Stay. Better yet, bring him to Twitter's headquarters for an interview (that's what I did and it worked).
- Robert Scoble
I've tried to do everything on this list, but the tattoo isn't going to work. I've already branded my twitter address onto several steers.
- Mike Nayyar
13. Stalk Guy Kawasaki until he calls the cops on you or follows you.
- Robert Scoble
14. Get naked. Take pictures. Include your Twitter address.
- Robert Scoble
er - we've seen most of your body, Robert, so where's *your* tatoo?
- WorldofHiglet
Jesse: that's what you think. Ask your real friends and they will probably tell you otherwise. :-)
- Robert Scoble
22. get on Leo Laporte's show and have him order his listeners to follow you. He did this last Sunday to my son and you should have seen the followers roll in. That dude has POWER!!!
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I asked them and they said you're the man
- Jesse Stay
23. Get @garyvee to take you wine tasting. Tweet it.
- Robert Scoble
naked pictures drunk sex and dying. got it. Oh, also, be Barack Obama. ANything else?
- Erin @queenofspain
25. Get Chris Brogan to say you are smart.
- Robert Scoble
Be hot and make sure your avatar shows it
- Chris Saad
WTF how pathetic do u have to be tohave this desire to be followed.Ppl follow u cuz they find u interesting & if not they will dump u period.Being a Personal Ball washer is just lame to get to have followers.be sure to hold ur ground.
- Baba
26. Get into an argument with @techcrunch.
- Robert Scoble
I've mentioned my Twitter account on The Tech Guy but I think my last name throws people. :D
- MarkCarras
29. Claim you are above this stupid game.
- Robert Scoble
Quit Twitter, come back after 2 months
- Jesse Stay
All bloggers are wrong at least every few posts. Especially me! :D
- MarkCarras
30. Follow more interesting people. That's why I've said for a year now it's most important who you follow, not who is following you. What I really was trying to say there is if you want better followers you've got to follow better people.
- Robert Scoble
lol Jesse. Twitter? What's that? I thought I was learning how to sell a shamwow
- Erin @queenofspain
What kind of wine are we talking here?
- Chris Poirier
Mark, you bet, but we are all type-A personalities. We hate to be told we're wrong and will defend it to our dying day. :)
- Jesse Stay
31: Give away something. Hold a contest.
- Robert Scoble
Launch a great Twitter service and stick your twitter name in the footer
- Chris Saad
32. Invite Louis Gray over for dinner. Make sure he brings his twins. Take pictures. 1000 extra points if you bring shirts for the twins with your Twitter address on them.
- Robert Scoble
34. Chris Saad is right. Speaking of Chris, if you party with him in Amsterdam you'll get more followers. Oh, and if you are the guy who wrote http://www.twittervision.com you'll get more followers.
- Robert Scoble
Take a pic down a girls shirt and post it on FF.
- David
Not 'Chris Saad' robert - @ChrisSaad :D
- Chris Saad
Get in with the Mommy Bloggers and #GNO Tweeps
- Jesse Stay
Good call Jesse, I was going to say piss off the mommybloggers , but getting in with them works too...lol
- Erin @queenofspain
I've had 2 new FriendFeed followers just from this thread.
- Jesse Stay
Follow Garry Vee (don't ask me to spell his full name out at this time of night, please?) what kind of wine goes with Twittering. *lol* Well, Gary Vee is THE wine expert on Twitter. :P
- Mol, Santa Claws
Erin, it is my goal to be King of the Mommy bloggers
- Jesse Stay
Follow just 1 online multi-level marketer and you'll has a ton start following you
- Paul Povolni
I buy dinner for anyone who comes to my area and contacts me through Twitter...and is following me. :D
- MarkCarras
I find that not following people back increases the rate at which I gain followers
- Simon T Small
Simon: being Robert Scoble is pretty hard. You've gotta keep coming up with new ways to find followers. It's easier to call him an asshole on twitter. Even better, call him, TechCrunch, 1938media, JasonCalacanis, Guy Kawasaki, and a few other people assholes.
- Robert Scoble
37. Jeremiah Owyang found this one: stop Twittering.
- Robert Scoble
I'm amazed I don't get called an asshole more often. I think this should be my New Years Resolution. :D
- MarkCarras
38. Follow someone, then when they don't follow you back, call them out on it and say they are lame.
- Robert Scoble
39. Come up with a new Twitter game. Get it retweeted by Chris Brogan.
- Robert Scoble
Make a real funny stream on Friendfeed, but better yet put it on your blog so SEO really gathers people to it and put your Friendfeed/Twitter handles right in the post
- Ian D. Nock
40. Pay Magpie to spam everyone with your Twitter address.
- Robert Scoble
Oh don't tell people to talk shit about you. It's kinda sad to see people talking crap about you, then when you're some place they are, they turn all fanboy.
- Admiral Anika
Robert: wait, not change in plans, I don't hate those people, damn it!
- Simon T Small
No one gets to be King of the mommybloggers until I deem it so dammit
- Erin @queenofspain
42. Hang out with @newmediajim at the Inauguration.
- Robert Scoble
43. Hang out with Hillary Clinton in Davos (my dream).
- Robert Scoble
Erin, but I thought you were the Queen of Spain
- Jesse Stay
44. Come up with a new set of rules for Twitter behavior.
- Robert Scoble
Oh boy, Mr. Scoble. I hope you are not Tweeting while getting drunk and having sex... Poor Mommy and son... Some things need to stay sacred. Do you really want the world at large to know what you are doing at all times? Quit goofing and send us more tech info we enjoy. Great videos from CES by the way. I even got my partner to come and watch some of them. Thanks for the good stuff!
- Colleen
45. Get more followers on Facebook then get them all to join you on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
46. Be @god. Even better. Be @god and hand out beta invites to something cool coming soon.
- Robert Scoble
Colleen: I didn't say I use all these ideas. But I've seen them work on other people. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Give a talk at a geek event and make sure you give out your Twitter name for feedback
- Chris Saad
47. Twitter the birth of your new baby (high risk, if you aren't there mentally during contractions you might see your iPhone thrown across the room).
- Robert Scoble
Pay @MrTweet to recommend you to everyone
- Chris Saad
48. Tweet exclusive Apple news before anyone else does.
- Robert Scoble
49. Be the first to retweet a big earthquake tweet.
- Robert Scoble
51. Follow everyone then unfollow as soon as you get a follow - follow that?
- Mona Nomura
Chris: Influence is gold, like it, am tuned
- Simon T Small
This post alone lets me see the value of FriendFeed over Twitter for conversations. Glad the list above isn't documentation of your personal twitter conquest, but a record of some of the looneyness of Twitter follower greediness
- Paul Povolni
52. Move to SF and go to every. single. Tweet-up! YAY HOW FUN!
- Mona Nomura
Scott: I don't know that this list helped me that much. But, how about a list of things that will get rid of followers? I bet that one would work better.
- Robert Scoble
53. Set text alerts for Brightkite and follow all the huge Tweeter's comings and goings - show up and SUBTLY introduce yourself so you'll be name dropped. Keyword = SUBTLY
- Mona Nomura
54. Go to every single conference and shamelessly pass out your Twitter in lieu of email!
- Mona Nomura
Streak at the Supebowl with your twitter name on your front and back(side)
- Simon T Small
Jesse: that only used to work. There are no defaults on friendfeed anymore. In fact, if you don't have any friends it won't recommend anyone to you.
- Robert Scoble
Name drop as much as you can and do whatever it takes to get written up on ValleyWag (wow, I've learned a lot in six months!)
- Mona Nomura
Get Robert Scoble to tweet that he can't believe what's going on at your birthday party even though it was a tame house party with friends
- Chris Saad
Tell people to NOT follow you. I mean it. Don't.
- Andrew Smith
Post a bajillion pictures of your kids, pets, and more kids.
- Mona Nomura
Make sure you participate in every. single. Robert post and name drop him as much as possible. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, great one - Kids, Dogs, and Kittenz - Bacon, too
- Jesse Stay
@Dieter if a post was sponsored by anyone scoble would let u know - trust me
- Chris Saad
Go to every. single. event and take + post as many. pictures. as you can w/ the "famous" people and PING.FM THOSE PICTURES!
- Mona Nomura
Here's a novel idea - Have something interesting to say and focus on producing value instead of your follower count :)
- Chris Saad
Mona, Facebook and Flickr tag them as well
- Jesse Stay
Always respond to people with an "@" ie: @scobelizer WOW this thread RULES - since you never know what Google's indexing!
- Mona Nomura
Dieter: Huh? If anything this post would be sponsored by Seagate. You can follow them at http://friendfeed.com/seagate (Seagate sponsors my video show, not my friendfeed account).
- Robert Scoble
Mona: 'post famous pictures' Love it. Works a charm on facebook.
- Simon T Small
i have a new one: use Browser bugs to greet your blogvisitors with their twittername http://is.gd/eMdF @andreasklinger
- Andreas Klinger
Chris: having something interesting to say? No, that couldn't work, could it? I'd rather talk about my followers. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Retweet this thread (no, that's not a request, it's an idea)
- Jesse Stay
Chris Saad: yer talkin crazy with that last one. Focus on content? Insanity.
- Scott Kingery
55: Dieter reminded me of one more: talk about products that already have Twitter accounts. When I talked about HR Block they followed me. So did Ford. So did Zappos.
- Robert Scoble
56. Don't auto-DM followers just follow them back or RT their next tweet
- Damian Holmes
Find a unique thing that you can help another Twitter user on - the bigger the user, the better. Fix their problem.
- Jesse Stay
So did @HeavyAsHell Oh wait, that's my site. :D
- MarkCarras
57. post a comment to a robert scoble FF feed
- Damian Holmes
Luke: T-shirts are so common. How about shoes? Jeans? Underwear? Don Box used to have his company logo on underwear. Called them "Boxer shorts." I still remember those, even though I've forgotten all the lame Tshirts I've ever gotten.
- Robert Scoble
Only a slut is going to be able to advertise well with branded underwear
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Compete for the most followers on Twitter - didn't Leo and Calacanis do that at one time? (or am I getting the contenders wrong?)
- Jesse Stay
58. write your twitter name on your eyelids then go to a tweetup or large tech conference
- Damian Holmes
MiniMage: not true. Don Box is no slut. He now runs a team at Microsoft.
- Robert Scoble
Be an early adopter - be one of the first, get in early, and build a follow base early
- Jesse Stay
Another one? Take pictures of Twitter users and follow them. They almost always follow back.
- Robert Scoble
I aint never heard of Don Box, and that means I didn't see that underwear! ;). No, seriously, I concede, but I had to make a retort.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I think a good way to make more friends is to live an interesting life. Life is a journey. You meet people just around every corner. Twitter happens to be one of them.
- Helge V. Keitel
Build up and help out a non-A list, but up-and-coming A or B list Twitter user or blogger. They will be more appreciative (it's those people that like the shirts and swag).
- Jesse Stay
Tweet something like this: "I'm looking for funny people to follow, do you know any?"
- Robert Scoble
Get @gapingvoid to use your twitter address in one of his cartoons (he designed my business cards and you would be amazed how well that works).
- Robert Scoble
@Mona use a hot suggestive silhouette as your avatar - that alwasy helps too
- Chris Saad
Take Louis Gray to a Vodka bar. You might not get any followers, but you will have a good time and he doesn't drink so you'll have a safe drive home, too!
- Robert Scoble
follow A, B, C, D, E, F, X and Z listers
- Damian Holmes
Create a custom T-shirt with "I Love Your Stream" (mine) on front(or your own words) and your Twitter name on back. I did it with @crypticfragment at zazzle.com. Still waiting for it. I didn't put twitter name on back though, should have, but not trying to gain HUGE followers, just the ones that would like to hear about furniture,interior design and eco home stuff! I put: twitter:FTW, on the back.
- Leslie Carothers
Robert, not to mention get on the front of Valleywag
- Jesse Stay
I keep hiding this but it doesn't stay hidden. :(
- Mona Nomura
Follow the Top 500 in your City then Top 500 in your Country that's at least 500 follow backs
- Damian Holmes
Jesse: I find that I get a lot of followers by keeping the A list on the A list. Who wants to deal with those assholes if they fall onto the B list?
- Robert Scoble
I'm with @garyvee & how he encourages us to *execute the best YOU* - don't try to be anyone else but the *best* you... your passionate self. Peeps who resonate with you will follow. And for sure add value, retweet good resources, build peeps up, thank those who comment on your blog & RT you.
- Mari Smith
58. Post to a list to get people to follow you. such as the one explaining how to get people to follow you...
- Sheraz Mahmood
Name drop Hollywood celebrities even if you don't know them.
- Mona Nomura
By the way, I'm following everyone who has participated on this so far. Why? Because only geeks would be online on a Saturday night and I want to follow all the geeks. So, everyone here has at least one follower on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
write a dramatic post about a family from Romania with a child with down syndrome and ask people to donate money.
- Simon T Small
Robert: You'll need to unfollow me, its 6pm Sunday here in Aussieland, so I'm not a commited geek sorry
- Simon T Small
Robert: Gotta do something while Windows 7 downloads :)
- Scott Kingery
Haha!! So busted - very good point re your last comment, Robert. Thank goodness for fab understanding spouses is all I say. hehe
- Mari Smith
60. Get on FriendFeed and Twitter super early and become de facto popular. And yes, #32 is a must.
- Louis Gray
Robert: were not all in Silicon Valley - its 16:30 in China - (awaiting the flames or unfollows - which is worst?)
- Damian Holmes
... and always listen to Scoble! Ha-ha. Robert, we admire you!
- Alan Kodzasov
Another tip: Don't live in Australia nearly NOBODY here is on Twitter
- Simon T Small
Compliment the crap out of "A-listers" and always laugh at all of their jokes. Make sure to add at least seven exclamation points. ie:"LOL!!!!!!!!!!" to stand out from the crowd.
- Mona Nomura
Note: above only works if you participate in every. single. one of their posts on both Twitter and FriendFeed!
- Mona Nomura
Robert: 5:30 pm in Tokyo. I'm pretty much just getting going for the day. :-)
- Ken Brady
Say something that makes a 200 + comment thread ;)
- videopixil
When you send bribes, make sure to research. ie: LG doesn't drink but Robert likes wine. Subtly ask for preferences so they'll get something they actually _like_ <--KEY.
- Mona Nomura
Use Tweetdeck and apply filters to see subjects you are expert in. You'll notice lots of people look for advice in certain fields so you can reply and show your expertise. I notice those people you help are happy and more likely to follow you even if you don't follow them.
- Luca Filigheddu
from fftogo
@videopixil Of course, that applies to most things Scoble says.
- Ken Brady
@tkpleslie says," Ask people like @scobleizer sincere question about whether Nokia's new phone works for people, like me, that wear hearing aids when's he's in Japan in middle of your night at the actual Nokia conference where phone is being intro'd for first time. He did respond,nicely,but did not follow so I guess it doesn't work too well.
- Leslie Carothers
Send Mona lego art wrapped in bacon. Oh wait, that'll get you friendfeed follows.
- Yuvi
This was before I really understood as @marismith says, that true value in twitter for me is having followers and following those people with intersecting paths because, like in real life, that's how interesting real conversations have a chance to develop into fuller, deeper, more lasting relationships.
- Leslie Carothers
Robert, It's Sunday Morning in Loviisa, Finland ;)
- Helge V. Keitel
Leslie: I did follow you here on friendfeed. I still haven't been able to find out if it works well for hearing impaired. I'm sure it does, though. The speaker phone on that device is pretty darn good.
- Robert Scoble
Speak in SAT verbiage at all times to make yourselves sound smarter.
- Mona Nomura
Never admit: ay kin knot reed end rite... :(
- Mona Nomura
This is a great list Robert, I love making new friends. All those awful things people are saying about you must be wrong - aren't they? -]
- Chris Loft
Post YouTube clips of classical music to make yourself seem more cultured.
- Mona Nomura
Share everythign popular on digg because if it's on digg, it MUST be cool.
- Mona Nomura
stop following people who post about following and follow people who don't try...
- Ryan
mention yourself on Scobles friendfeed (@mattrendo)
- Matt Rendo
Keep up with memes since everyone wants to hear what's been repeated on the web a trillion times without contributing a new opinion. ie: CES looks cool.
- Mona Nomura
All great points. I've always hated requests for follows. I'm only attempting something like it for charity. In that instance, those who do the same should be very clear about WHY they want followers in the first place. Otherwise it looks like you're just in it for yourself.
- Brandon Mendelson
Chris Loft: everything said about me is absolutely true! :-)
- Robert Scoble
So it's true that you have huge... giant... socks?
- Chris Saad
Thanks for the follow here on FriendFeed, Robert. I know this is where you interact. But,because home base for me is Twitter, I never saw your follow here until I went to comment on this thread! It's too much for me to constantly go back and forth and also keep up with work, life,friends and family.How do you guys do it? Thanks, tho, Robert,for letting me know. I learn from you ALL the time.
- Leslie Carothers
I really am not obsessed with more followers. Sure I appreciated them as much as the next person. It is not a popularity contest for my use case. Hence, I will never be a "Top 100" person on Twitter. ;)
- Rodney Rumford
If it's on the Internet, it is ALWAYS true, Robert. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Try to explain yourself out of being a geek when you really are
- Jesse Stay
I am indeed a failure, all the more reason to follow me... and that BACON Mona N. mentioned
- Matt Rendo
Get Robert Scoble to Foreward/Afterword your book for you
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse I'm incapable of explaining myself out of being a geek. Better to embrace it.
- Ken Brady
61: Add on to a Robert Scoble numbered list with an incrementally interesting item.
- Steve Garfield
back up your success with nothing more than 140 characters
- Sheraz Mahmood
I've noticed that people who start a controversy, especially with a high profile person, get an immediate boost in followers. You'd think it would backfire but it seems to have the opposite effect. Maybe it's the trainwreck factor? People curious what on earth will be said next?
- Liz
Apparently posting on Scoble's Friendfeed works... 6 followers in the last few minutes.
- Matt Rendo
Woah. 278+ comments. Impressive! This is definitely one that will stick on FFholic for a while.
- Phil G
Wondering is anybody will read all these comments. I do believe if twitter doesn't get it together, that a large group will flock out to another destination. ala: Poof!
- Dave
Hey @scobleizer, your post would have been more appropriate on a blog.
- Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Post photos of cute puppies on FriendFeed.
- Amit Morson
To get followers, jump into a Tweetchat "room", get into the convo, follow folks then tell them in the chat room that you are following. For the "Happy09" chat, there were tons of people in there. Better yet, start your own chat/chat meme!
- Jesse P. Luna
@ reply like crazy to let the person know you followed them ie: @Scobleizer HI I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK repeat until FailWhale/FailRobot shows up.
- Mona Nomura
Well, that's starting to work . . . anyone else getting lots of new friends? . . . and I didn't have to insult anybody. I think I might have to post one of my classical video clips for Mona http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Chris Loft
Leslie, the N series work v well with the hearing impaired, but the iPhone works even better from my experience FTW!
- Sally Church
One thing that annoys me: people who discuss their follower numbers on twitter. Its just not interesting! I just subscribed to someone and unsubscribed the next day as 4 tweets were about passing 10000 - I'm very glad for you but it is just noise in my feed. Now I understand the feeling - I was amazed the day 100 people followed me (it is all relative :) ) - but it is not necessary to tweet about it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I was going to send you some Swiss wine Robert, but I was told it doesn't travel well, so drank it myself. Just so you know, it was good :-)
- Paul Shadwell
I'm paling up with several here, in spite of what Mr. Scoble says about Saturday night geeks. -Mr. Geek ;-P
- Eddie Soto
Participate in a Robert Scoble's friendfeed conversation on Saturday night, have him follow you, post the screenshot of him following you
- Bertrand Doux
On the subject of more followers, arrrrrgh! *runs screaming from room.... *
- Sally Church
Tweet about Windows 7(or something equally as interesting), which I'll be doing a lot of in the coming days, It's installing as I type this!
- Kevin Lloyd
Tweet, but don't tweet too much because people apparently don't want to hear from you (or is it just me! ;)) THAT much! :)
- Christopher Kusek
Paul, what's that about swiss wine not travelling so well? It travels beautifully (but you need to get the good ones). It is so hard to find outside Switzerland because the swiss tend to drink all of it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Liz, I thought that was really funny cos it's Sunday evening here. I'm not some z-list geek sitting here wasting my time on a Saturday night. -[
- Chris Loft
point 4 above is shameless self-plug :) but entertaining :)))
- A.T.
64. Comment on a Robert Scoble list at 2:21 AM in bed becausse you could not sleep
- Tyler (Chacha)
65. Plan to write a blog post on thisentry in the morning
- Tyler (Chacha)
66. Fail at placing a space between in this and entry on a scoble list ( iPod recognizes Scoble as a word and auto completed it)
- Tyler (Chacha)
get stuck on a bus in death valley in the middle of the night with robert scoble.
- Christine Lu
Follow an obscure norwegian and get incoherent conversations about whales, blåbærsyltetøy, and the semantic web;) (which may make people curious.. or unfollow you actually..)
- Thomas Bøhm
Get up at 6 am on Sundays if living in Europe because otherwise you miss Robert Scoble's craziest moments and most interesting threads = people *damn* I should have never slept in!
- Gaby K. Slezák
A real one: Upload a sexy picture on your profile or your twitter bg !!
- İbrahim Uzun [ j ]
Claim that Scoble and Techcrunch are simply manufactured entities by a mysterious corporate power using Coke vs. Pepsi tactics to polarize the masses in an effort to conquer the world.
- Bob Starr
RT @scobleizer Robert this is good advice, except I don't see any reference to bodacious tat-tas. ;)
- John Craft
RT @scobleizer Robert wow, your post generated so many comments, is this the most number of comments from a single tweet in Twitter history? Can anyone confirm?
- Alvin
Sorry not Twitter, this is from FriendFeed :)
- Alvin
67. write about stuff you are enthusiastic about and that's only covered by a handful of people yet (like virtual worlds, metaverse) and shamelessly reveal that you are enthusiastic about that in one of the most commented on @scobleizer threads ;-)
- Gaby K. Slezák
stop reading half way but say it was awesome anyway
- Stephen Breen
You forgot about having a whole lot of time on your hands!
- John D Reasor
I knew I should have tweeted from the back of that police van on the stroke of new year's eve, watching the fireworks. And walking away. Walking. With a big grin on my face. We'z not dus photoz. Doh.
- Chris Loft
Write an "unofficial biography of Robert Scoble" and have it published? ;)
- Tyson Key
“Scoble's law of unfollows: for everyone who you get on Twitter that says they will unfollow you will get 87 new followers.” http://tinyurl.com/9oahwc
- Tapio Kulmala
Talk about the versatility of bacon - BACON - crisp, tasty BACON
- BEX
Just noticed this is a very dude-heavy thread (not all but mainly) and that I mainly subscribe to guys on FriendFeed. But on Twitter I have about 60/40 men/women Following mix, I think. It was the comments about ta-tas and sexy profile photos that made me realize the difference.
- Liz
Lock Robert Scoble, Mona N, Jesse Stay, Louis Gray, Jason Calacanis and Techcrunch in a room. Only release them when they've retweeted every single of your tweets and told all their followers to follow you!
- Nicholas James
nope its nun of the above; .they are just hacking into your FF account;If you really want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed this is what you do, its...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.they got me.
- tomartomartini
Yep .. I think this has reached the most active discussion .. ever (It past Dave Winer's post which is most discussed in past 30 days)
- Tyler (Chacha)
Come on people! We need to reach 500 comments!
- Tyler (Chacha)
Tweet unto you as you would like to be tweeted.
- iamkhayyam
Create a Robert Scoble fan blog and title it Mr. Awesome. :)
- Bill Romanos
69. start a list and slowly move out of it as other members of the community move in to pick it up (there is no 68) - you are now running things without even being there.
- Valeria Maltoni
Be a more interesting what Robert? :p oh and maybe follow the fastest top ten commenters here.
- mrsha
I am reading this in friendfeed on my iPhone and immediately regretting my decision to tap "read more..." I made it through the first 12 then began skimming and my thumb began sobbing...
- John Reynolds
I don't remember any friendfeed item getting more than 300 comments. I think this is now the new high water mark. Wow!
- Robert Scoble
Or: Post a “If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:” tweet :-)
- Marco Massarotto
Not being in this comment stream is so embarrassing. Wait, so is BEING in this comment stream!
- Tom Guarriello
i wonder if you did it all wrong, would you really get no followers...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle: if you did it all wrong you would still get followers but they just would be all spammers.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - define spam... Is this post spam?
- Brian Roy
Comment on the longest thread in Friendfeed history.
- Mike Lewis
it seems pretty simple: post interesting things, interact thoughtfully, and be patient
- Kelly W.
70. When all else fails, make interesting crap up about Robert, Gary, Brogan, etc..
- Todd Jordan
It isn't how many follow you... it is the quality of those you follow. But... that makes it hard to keep score and determine who is "winning".
- Brian Roy
patient? I want 1000 followers and I want them now! ;) (actually, I am with Kelly on this one)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You know... Chris Brogan liked a post of mine and retweeted it letting everyone know... it ended up bringing me about 800 new visitors in the span of 2 hours. There's definitely something to be said about being seen with the right people. :)
- Steven Sanders
Hey Robert, say something positive about each of us today? Really be a boost.
- Todd Jordan
AVG works just fine for me under Windows 7!
- Dave Oliver
Todd: you all are beautiful. And smart. That's why I am following everyone on this thread.
- Robert Scoble
It's simple, but just do two things (in order): 1. Create good content. 2. Market that content in an intelligent, non-spammy way.
- Daniel Miessler
Daniel: marketing part is what we're really talking about here. How to/who to/when to/where to/what to market.
- Todd Jordan
That said: Talk about Twitter and FriendFeed all day every day. Don't forget to include: "I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPERT" in all of your profiles.
- Mona Nomura
Make special badges that scream your self proclaimed title. You know, kind of like flair? Or girl/boy scouts?
- Mona Nomura
@Mona - heck yeah, huge % of new followers claim to be soc media experts.
- Todd Jordan
Todd- FAIL. You forgot Rule #163. NAME DROP. @scobelizer (I'm just namedropping but really addressing Mona... err @monaaa)
- Mona Nomura
Not call anyone out but I think it should be: " I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA SLUT!1!" ;-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Mathew - CRAP you stole my thunder... I'm working on a blog post entitled "How to know if you are a social media slut"... thanks!
- Brian Roy
Brian - I hope that comes after: "10,000 Ways to Effectively use Twitter for Business"
- Mona Nomura
I wish FF would timestamp comments. It'd be interesting to know how this conversation flowed...or jumped around.
- Liz
Mona - pretty sure those two are the same post... No?
- Brian Roy
Liz: Just hang out over the little convo balloon to the left of the comments. It shows you how long ago the comment was left. :-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
Be serious at ALL times since analyzing Social Networks with charts and graphs is THE FUTURE!
- Mona Nomura
Announce your twitter address after saying the pledge of allegiance over the school intercom system.
- David Rose
I drunk tweet all the time, and it doesn't help. People just email you AA invitations.
- Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)
Since you are all here... I was wondering. Have you seen my car keys?
- Brian Roy
Another would be to make a Bacon Fan Club Room.
- Nicholas James
Will find out soon if becoming a social media diva pin-up acquires more followers :)
- Nicola Quinn
PLAY with your followers and build a community of FANS. Start a meme, host a trivia session (@linnetwoods), do fun thematic Blip.fm sets (@jesseluna, @Dave_Malby), start a fun-spirited smackdown battle with another Twitterer (@Dana_Wilhoit and @SeanAMcAlister). UStream and play Wii while you're lightly toasted with a fun friend (@queenofspain)
- Jesse P. Luna
Start your own threads using all and only Robert's suggestions. Originality means nothing, it's all about being a Robert clone!
- Mona Nomura
Be imperfect, fragile, human - someone everyone can relate to.
- Tomi Itkonen
Participate in memes where you can post old pictures of yourself from 70s, 80s or 90s.
- Larry Kless
@Scobleizer so far I tweet from party, wc, roadtrip, first minutes of the new year, wc again, meeting, boring meeting, boring presentation, wedding, engagement, hospital... I think I am on good track !!!
- Alemsah Ozturk
Talk like you are deluded into thinking the iPhone and Apple computers are superior machines.
- Mark Stahler
Help Robert getting 400 comments or any other all time high on friendfeed!
- Gaby K. Slezák
Here's the 401st for good measure! I kinda use Twitter and FF to keep up with new, and record ideas and thoughts for myself, but if some people out there find a common ground with me, that's very cool! I think too much is placed on these online friend / follower counts overall tho... BTW, this comment is probably on the "How NOT to get more followers on Twitter or FF" list. :) Keep feeding me the knowledge Scobs!
- AdPanda
Spell @Scobleizer correctly when trying to drop a name ... lol.
- Robert Couture
Bump .... @charlieanzman. I can't believe this thread!
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie - the sheer #s of comments or the fact that this is such a popular topic?
- Susan Beebe
How can you possibly read all of this and get anything done? This is an example of FF overkill.
- Scott Maentz
@Susan folks are now commenting for the fun of it. :)
- Todd Jordan
Wow! I remember when this began as three items, then Scoble got all giddy and inspired and started this hilarious chain of absurdity. Well done Mr. @Scobleizer
- Paul Povolni
Make sure to be a hater and nit-pick on every. little. thing. someone does online!
- Mona Nomura
Take everything someone says as a personal attack and rant!
- Mona Nomura
Complain about every. little. thing.
- Mona Nomura
Change your display name everyday aNd mAkE sUrE tO tYpE LiKe DiS
- Mona Nomura
Make sure to kiss a whole buncha *ss and name drop, name drop, name drop!
- Mona Nomura
every 3rd comment should be "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooopoopoooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppooooooooooooo oooo" wow... It is hard to enter that many o's on an iPhone. EDIT -> I put in spaces - apparently I annoyed Brandon...
- Brian Roy
@Brian: Please edit your post so it doesn't break everyone's feed. I'd like to not hide this item. Thanks.
- AJ Kohn
I think that I made a comment on this post but I can't find it. And Mona, you are cracking me up!!
- BEX
I wonder if there is a limit to how many comments can be added to a post on FF
- Susan Beebe
The funniest part about all this is that I've gotten a *ton* of followers for posting on this thread. Weird! I think once my programming-related FF activity resumes people will drop from my feed like flies :)
- Eric Florenzano
Too bad I can't tweet the link (yet) -- of this 400+ comment -- I don't know how to call this. Not a Tweetversation by any means. A FFversation? Anyone come out with any sensible terms?
- David Feng
I have some ideas, none of which are usable.
- WorldofHiglet
subscribe to Friendfeeds for Twitter Celebs and read their Twitter hints... Start with Scoble..
- TechMama Beth Blecherman
I see "423 more comments". That's the most I have ever seen so far in FF!
- Winston Teo
TechMama: that will work very well. Of course then you'll only be fed shallow news. The real good stuff is on the K list. They aren't on the bottom, so they have a few followers, but they really don't give a shit so they are very real and teach you stuff. Unfortunately they usually don't stay on the K list very long. They either get moved up pretty fast or they get put in rehab for social media addiction.
- Robert Scoble
What was this thread about? I forgot, AGAIN!
- Jim Bednarz
Jim: me too, it's taken on a life of its own. Oh, yeah, it was about how to make money with friendfeed. Heheheh. Yeah, right!
- Robert Scoble
Quick! Scoble's about to do a 'How to make money on friendfeed' post now. Looking for the hattrick ;~)
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Ed: heheh. how to make money in friendfeed? Get a million followers. The money will come. Or maybe not. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I guess you could charge for seminars on how to get a million followers ;D
- Seth Greenblatt
Robert - Think you broke your own record with this one. 255 Likes and 437 comments ?! Guess nobody's embracing Friendfeed tonight :)
- Charlie Anzman
Nobody's gonna read this, but I can't help observing that "I've got 10000 followers" is kinda like saying "I have 1000 books on my bookshelf", as if the number, not the content, is the important thing.
- Mr. Gunn
Charlie .. his last one has 300 comments and over 300 likes I believe ... But this thread is 70 people away from reaching every single person on Friendfeed. (Given the 500 like rule)
- Tyler (Chacha)
ChaCha - Ya gotta love it. Now when he reaches everyone on the Internet ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Susan - Wasn't ignoring you ... just got lost in the middle of this ScobleChaChaMeMeWhateverItIs ... night all :)
- Charlie Anzman
Most importantly, get followed by @scobleizer hope he retweets, likes and/or comments on your posts.
- Christian Anderson
Christian: that's fair. I keep hoping you retweet, like, or comment on mine! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Yikes, I see there are 442 "collapsed" comments that follow Robert Scoble's teaser! (I won't dare to "expand" them - it would take ages to read them all.) The subject clearly preys on people's minds... Scoble has a knack for hitting the right button!
- Yule Heibel
I wonder if Mobile Safari would have such an implosion that the iPhone would shatter in my hands, if I tried to expand that thread.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
doing video works pretty well too :)
- Loic Le Meur
great, robert, this is *really* pushing the limit :)
- Alberto D'Ottavi
tweet about the size of Robert's ..... =X
- Rachael Depp
whoa comment frenzy! @FriendFeed can you please build a Comment Quality filter before I attempt to make sense of all this user generated erm "content"? Now there's a question: how do we measure Comment Quality?
- Bob Hitching
I was lucky enough to arrive at his 3rd or 4th point... it was amazing to see it happen on the fly, as I and other people jumped in. It was like a chat room or IM chat.
- Simon T Small
Oh, and by commenting a couple of times on this post, I got 36 new twitter followers and about 6 new friend feed followers in 12 hours
- Simon T Small
omg.. why isn´t there a comment link on the bottom as well ? Especially useful on the iphone. I forgot the witty remark that would ensure me thousands of followers by the time I finger-scrolled to the top and to the bottom again on this insanely long thread. Oh, well, at least my comments are seen sometimes.. hello ?
- Thomas Bøhm
I do like how #1: Stop your bloody begging and whining for followers is still showing though. :-P
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Re: 18., Tweet from the great beyond. INSANE follow numbers then. ;-p
- mtlb
This is certainly quite interesting thread. I wonder how many Likes this will get. :D
- Daniel Schildt
This thread has become a meme unto itself. As I once said, Robert Scoble plays social media like a virtuoso musician. FTW
- Sheldon Steiger
from twhirl
"Chill plays a wide range of chillout music from around the world, put together with suggestions from you, our Myspace friends and Facebook fans, and the contributions of chillout experts like Pete Lawrence from The Big Chill (Mon 8-10pm)"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
"This report shows the current state of the email client market. It serves as the largest ever study of its kind, with data from almost three million email recipients: by business recipients, by consumer recipients" Yes - blue part is Outlook!
- Erhan Erdogan
from Bookmarklet
mmm. I am one of the 0.2% that uses notes for work and 4 who use Gmail for personal use.
- CJPhoto
It sounds like they are bugging emails with external images, which is very unreliable since Gmail and some others don't load external images by default (for privacy and anti-spam reasons).
- Paul Buchheit
That might explain my surprise at Gmail having a low %.
- Kol Tregaskes
interesting, although I wonder how they deal with duplicates, for example people downloading email from Yahoo or Gmail into Outlook or Apple Mail. More notable though: the days of Outlook dominance are well and truly over
- Duncan Riley
I'm surprised Eudora is not on the list.
- Rodfather
All: They will inform us about the report.
- Erhan Erdogan
I seriously doubt that Gmail is only 6 percent... I bet it is more than hotmail!!!!
- Susan Beebe
Mmm... I don't think Gmail usage is that low... can't believe
- Luca Filigheddu
Another thing to keep in mind is that not all users are equal. Are you counting people who spend all day in email the same as people who login once a week? People often make the mistake of counting the number of users as though that were all that mattered.
- Paul Buchheit
result of this research is the highly questionable. to get accepted as scientific, focus groups must span to a heterogeneous general public sample. even the message count might be mistaken as sufficient (~3M), this parameter alone is far from being enough for a complete statistics. i highly doubt the sample group's diversity by just looking at the shares of GMail and Lotus.
- Berk D. Demir
Hey folks, I'm from Litmus and Ethan asked me to respond to some of the questions here.
- Paul Farnell
@Paul: Yes, Fingerprint (the system used to generate these statistics) uses an external image to record the email client, so it's only tracking people who opened the email, and viewed the images. You're right of course that almost every email client (including Gmail) block most external images by default. As a result, Fingerprint is not able to track every recipient on a mailing list. Instead you get a sample of part of the list. However, over a large enough group this still gives great results!
- Paul Farnell
@Duncan: These "duplicates" are tracked pretty accurately. If you use Gmail but read your mail within Apple Mail (as I do), you'd be recorded as using Apple Mail.
- Paul Farnell
@Berk: We don't consider this to be at the level of scientific research :) That said, I do feel it's accurate, and it is the most extensive survey of its kind ever produced. However, our Fingerprint system is designed to let you track email client usage on your own mailing list. Because of the diversity of users, I'd recommend basing your judgements about email client popularity on mailing list-specific results, rather than these aggregate figures. It's the same as browser stats in that respect.
- Paul Farnell
Paul Farnell: Thank you! ...for the power of social media - for the kindness of humanity. ; )
- Erhan Erdogan
@Paul: thanks for the prompt response. i know your research doesn't claim any scientific recognition but because it's well formatted it sounds like scientific. I ran a similar survey for 3 years on Turkish Linux Users' mailing lists and the results were far from reality :) The result turned out to be masses are total geeks who are using Pine, Kmail and Evolution :) So to be realistic, number of mailing lists should be massively diverse across different interest groups. Browser stats is the correct example.
- Berk D. Demir