Jamie Ellis › Likes

Exactly :D - Johnny

I hadn't anticipated it, but it seems so evident now. - Micah

Some how I think people's hidden filters should be reset just because it's a new way to see FriendFeed. Before people probably just hid all these services because one person kept flooding it. - Andrew Trinh

I never liked how FF posts get more activity than posts from other services. I always saw FF as meta to all the services you can import so why should it matter if an item was shared on Google Reader or posted directly to FF. The other trend I don't like to see is people ripping off Reddit or Digg by copying and pasting the headline and linking directly to the article, giving no credit to the original. - Graham English

For me it helps sort whether content is likely to be original or shared. Now I still look for that first, and it just wastes my time, having to find it amongst the rest of the text. - Pixie

What difference does it make if the content is original or shared? If it is interesting and brings about a discussion or enlightens another user then it has served its purpose. - Andrew Trinh

Of course original content (and the conversations around it) matters... it's FriendFeed, not DataFeed. Stuff like Digg bugs me because it's several clicks to get to the meat, just to see if it's interesting enough to talk about. Also, I may not care about person X's tweets, but I may care about their last.fm (for example). Service identification and discrimination is valid for many and varied reasons. - Tinfoil 2.0

It depends on what your purpose is, Andrew. Mine is to usually get to know individuals better. - Pixie

I never said you can't ignore a particular service, that's what the hide is for. But let the users see the information first without any bias and then let them decide. - Andrew Trinh

Alix, if your purpose is to get to know the individual better then you deserve every right to hide feeds of a user because of which services they use more. But don't let the same bias affect posts by other users, hide it for once and not for all. If after you've considered it that you may not like tweets overall hide it, you don't need to see a service icon to see that. - Andrew Trinh

Isn't the service part of the information? - Andy Bakun

Andrew, it's attention prioritization. Especially in a faster-moving realtime page, with user avatars and service icons (like the old realtime feed) I can instantly hone in on where to focus my attention, before I even start reading any titles, comments, or other text. - Tinfoil 2.0

Actually, there is a great risk of people being unfairly labeled as moronic without the icons, if their posts make little sense, as is the case with a lot of stuff from twitter. I can excuse moronic posts from twitter if I immediately know that's where they are from. Without the icons, I can't really do that. That means everyone I follow has to be a twitter poet, or I might mistaken them for idiots. - April Russo

But the service has never disappeared, under each post it still states where each post originates from it's just not the main focus any more. The question is, if you have to filter out so much of your feed that you need icons to see which ones to read why do you have it shown in the first place? - Andrew Trinh

I don't ignore or hide based on service. The icon just often tells me in an instant if this is something the person created or something they think is worth sharing. I never felt the icon was the focus, just an organizational tool. - Pixie

Andrew, I think you might be misunderstanding something, The service icons have informational content themselves, allowing certain types of information to be given greater or lesser or just different weight from the rest. So instead of "allowing people to focus on the content itself" it forces you to focus on all the content equally, which is clearly inappropriate. Twitter posts are different than delicious items which are different than blog posts which are different than things shared directly. - Mr. Gunn

Exactly. I agree with Mr Gunn. Now we have less information than we had before. - Chris Loft

Andrew, agree with you. #betakoltag-ob - Kol Tregaskes

The service icons represent in part the information that is being presented and how/what services that information was found. Without those it makes it more difficult to tie the information together. Plus those little icons are cute. :) - sofarsoShawn

Also the service icons are a way of filtering the information, for example: by clicking on a user's stumbledupon icon all their sites fall into a nice column which is FAR simpler then the complex filtering system in the beta - sofarsoShawn

I have noticed that Friend Feed users are more likely to respond to a post based on the person doing the posting not what service it is rolling out of. - Tony C (Unrated)

I think there is an important point here that I've made on other items. I think there are two qualitatively different modes of using friendfeed. One is person-centric, similar to friendfeed or Twitter. People interested in what a specific person has to say. The other is content centric, the person is secondary to the content they are bringing in or promoting. My guess is that the content-centric viewers do a lot of filtering based on the source of the information, as well as the people it is coming through - Cameron Neylon

Also that the research community (e.g. Life Scientists rooms and others) are more content centric than the general user community. I would think the UI can support both modes of use with a few display options (do don't display service icons, using filtering over service type/number of comments/liks etc.) - Cameron Neylon

That's a good point, Cameron, and considering that the Life Scientists room has over 700 members, one would think their collective opinion would carry some weight. - Mr. Gunn

Just loaded the stylish scripts that remove the personal icons and put back the service icons (HT to Neil Saunders) so I'm happy now. - Cameron Neylon

That may be true, but I still miss the icons :'( - stanjourdan

I appreciate the help, but I'm on chrome ! - stanjourdan

I'll cast a vote in favour of showing service icons whereever they plausibly make sense. - Karl Knechtel

I ignore certain icons too especially when it's the source of most of the content that I find to be boring. Makes sense to me. - Corvida

Bump. - Kol Tregaskes

I always was a fan of the service icons. I still run the old school realtime FF in the Firefox sidebar, so I get my service icon fix that way ;) - Tinfoil 2.0

God yes! I'm with you Leo. The whole thing just feels so cheap. - Jeremy

Hehe :-), Leo doing that is quite nice :-) - Richard A.

But Leo, you just mentioned them arggh! :) - Scott Dexter

But leo has his reality distortion field. ;-) - Richard A.

I have cut the cord with twitter. No longer having an account is soo freeing. Going the opposite way of the world. - Scott H

Oh, did Twitter enabled the functions? - Outsanity

Hey, good idea. I think I might do the same. - Adam Martin

I like it - Gunnyman™ from twhirl

Agreed! Those people are hurting the internet... - Nenad Nikolic from twhirl

Why so many people do not like Oprah? - piaff

lol - Technical Support

re: #unfollowfriday Whoa, Leo, do we unfollow you too since U used the "O" name in yr last post? I am a tech who loves and follows your show and websites for years. My boyfriend was on your show. I hope you retract this one quickly as it is not like you. Some of these you will unfollow are your readers and viewers too. I will have a few tech questions to come later. But I had to say that, Hope you don't mind. Still love ya. - Cher A

This must be "Jump the Shark" day. - Charles George from twhirl

Amen! - Mary DeSive

How about unfollowing anyone who Britney Spears? lol - Greg

Kutcher, Oprah and Spears, oh my! It's the twitter trifecta. I'm gonna do it! - NikkiPixel

Oh noes! What about da intertubes? Or da interwebs? Verboten as well? #unfollowfriday is interesting concept. Q: Will it blend? - c.a.j.

I bet you still talk about it ad nauseum on Twit though... ;o) - halfmanhalfgeek

i wish i could get you to follow me (on friendfeed), let along have to worry about you unfollowing me #unfollowfriday #greatidea - Chris Heath

Even if you were following me, it would be worth loosing 1 follower to post "CNN declares Ashton Kutcher: The World's Biggest Twit". Finally, we have it from a respected source. - Jeff Fischbach

What haz happened to teh internets?? - Josh Haley

[HAL] : I'm sorry Leo. I'm afraid I can't let you do that. - dpurrington

How about adding Fail Whale to the list? - tojfs7931

Will the follower contest between Kutcher/CNN and Oprah getting on twitter be remembered as the point at which twitter jumped the shark? - Andy Bakun

Probably not andy, although many already are/have been - i don't think 'jumped the shark' is the right term for what's happening here... maybe it is... - Chris Heath

Leo, your 'bromance' used "internets" this morning...do I smell a breakup?! Oooh controversy ensues. Great shows, love TWiT and the network. - Michael Johnson

I'm thinking of unfollowing @aplusk at least because twitter has started to be more of a celebrity contest. Note: I followed him before this whole tweeteace thing. - Howell Selburn from BuddyFeed

Leo doesn't follow me anyway, so never mind. - Morton Fox

following isn't your style anyway from what I can tell. If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes! So keep on leading and let the rest of us sniff you butt on the path to success! I for one will happily sniff, but no licking will be done (for free, anyway....) - Morgan

does that mean you will be unfollowing Ashton Kutcher? because apparently you can't: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - alexia tsotsis

@alexia You can type "off aplusk" as a tweet. "off USERNAME" is another way of unfollowing someone. - imperator3733 from twhirl

Yeah they bumped up the storage a while back. Very cool - dpurrington from BuddyFeed

I think I heard about this and never looked into it. Gotta look into it! - Justin Korn

not me - thanks! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Being a Windows Live Butterfly i am aware of this service. - Jamie Ellis

I did not know of this. Very cool! - Dee @ Holycool.net

I didn't know it was that much. However, I keep wondering which cloud service is going to get yanked at some point. Who do I trust? - MiniMage

Do now thx! - sofarsoShawn

Does it work on OSX and Ubuntu? - Bruce Lewis

@Bruce: it's just a web service, so I'm thinking yeah - Sarah Perez

yeah. I like it. - pastas9

Yack.. Windows! - Daniel van Moll

Love SkyDrive. Works great! - Jordan Hofker

I love Skydrive, use it all the time, it's a great service. I was just thinking about how MS has a number of really good online services but they do horribly at advertising them. - Aram Zucker-Scharff from twhirl

Is there a way to use it as a network drive? That would be pimp... - Hao Chen

Thanks for sharing, Sarah! I don't think many people know about this. - MiaD

Hao, I've been searching for a desktop uploader ever since this came out. :/ Tough to do it one by one using a web 0.1 uploader :/ (I blogged about it when it was still 5GB http://www.allanjosephbatac.com/blog...) - AJ Batac

I like the Flickr uploader - AJ Batac

That's a way old thing. - Anurag Bansal from Nambu

There's multiple flickr uploaders now; what really matters is the bandwith upload rate which as I can recall is pretty fast, at least as fast as box.net. As web app skydrive is amazing for storage and it's easy interface - sofarsoShawn

I got it - Eric - seven eleven

wonder what kind of strings attached by MS ;) - A. T.

@solarsoshawn I'm on Windows (obv) so I use the Flickr uploader built into Windows Live Photo Gallery (plus I added the Facebook uploader & YouTube uploader, too) - Sarah Perez

...cont'd: Facebook uploader: http://www.codeplex.com/liveupl... & Youtube one: http://www.codeplex.com/liveupl... - Sarah Perez

@AJ Batac: If you're a Windows user, try Live Photo Gallery - built in uploader to SkyDrive (Photos) & Flickr: http://download.live.com - Sarah Perez

@sarah nice, more than I expected at that! - sofarsoShawn

Nice. Is there a way for it to integrate with Windows Explorer? I'm currently using Dropbox which offers that very handy feature which I can't do without. - Mark Krynsky

Mark: Gladinet does that, but MSFT would rather you not use that. For photo uploads, Live Photo Gallery is best way though. - Sarah Perez

That's great Sarah. Can you upload files other than photos though? @Mark, yeah I would have hoped for a similar solution. - AJ Batac

Doh! My office content filter knew about it before I did. - Daniel J. Pritchett

@AJ Skydrive uploads have to be done via the web browser (officially) - Sarah Perez

Gladinet link: http://www.gladinet.com/ (don't tell anyone I gave you that!) - Sarah Perez

Having upload errors. - Walinmichi

I wish I could access SkyDrive through Windows Explorer. :( - Chris Charabaruk

I do. I haven't really started to use it yet though. - David Cook

it's so fast... speed ftw! - Mike English

what u think so far? one issue I have is if I comment on someone like scoble I can't find the comments/discussions that relate to my comment. - Randy Ksar

Pour voir le nouveau il faut aller sur http://beta.friendfeed.com/ - Jean-Pierre MÉRESSE

What do you think about the new Friendfeed User Interface? See the poll: http://twtpoll.com/q68d2y - Yaron Orenstein

I don't see this "Profile Page" for ff everyone seems to be screaming good cheer about! - CLC Radio

Also, seems Loic, Scoble, and Gilmore are all forgetting to create links to their titles posts in ff. - CLC Radio

it's reaaaaaaally fast - Loic Le Meur

Some ppl say it is too fast.. - Gabriel

i just signed up on FriendFeed for the beta, and I don't understand: Why is it so hard to retrieve information from my facebook account, and can I see my facebook friend's feeds or just mine ? - Yanis

When does it roll out, Loic? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

ooh cool! - Susan Beebe