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Live now: This Week In Google 10 with Gina Trapani, Jeff Jarvis, Kevin Marks, and Marshall Kirkpatrick on Google Wave. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
I haven't heard a single positive thing about Wave yet. Still want to try it for myself, but it's interesting that there's so little positive buzz.
- Jeff Harbert
I can't wait to use GW. Still waiting for my invite to show up in my inbox.
- Danny Minick
How can I get on one o' dem monitors someday... do I gotta be famous enough than i already r?
- Danny Minick
From what I have read (no invite yet) if I can run this on my own server for my 5 team members at work, THIS is the solution I have been looking for.
- Johnny Worthington
Also, Scoble missed the point. It's not social media or a broadcast medium. 100,000 would never be manageble team in any situation. Wave has power in small numbers. This beta is a free-for-all.
- Johnny Worthington
How do you get to the real time 'chat room' style view for the TWIG friend feed? No wonder this site hasn't taken off, the learning curve is unbelievable
- Matt
Just had a problem with Wave: I opened a window to ping Leo asking to join the TWig Wave, but I decided not to bother him. Unfortunately, as I saw on the live video, it already had -- he saw a flashing ping window before I even started typing! (I decided to type out a message at that point, seeing as it had already appeared on his screen.)
- Eric Geller
Can you run your own Wave server? wave.google.com isn't the only place this will exist
- Johnny Worthington
LOL, I'm still just trying to join Google Wave. Dang invite still isn't here yet.
- Danny Minick
I'm pretty sure I'm scobleizer@googlewave.com
- Robert Scoble
If I can run my own instance, and control l those who go into it. NO SPAM.
- Johnny Worthington
I think you guys are missing the point. Wave is not a replacement for email it's a new solution to an old problem - how do I communicate efficiently with people around the world?
- Jan Cifra
Google must be doing something right to get their own segment on TWiT network. LOL
- Danny Minick
Gina speaks so fast my brain can't keep up ><
- ralphsaunders
Seems to me like we're thinking of Wave in terms of every other open social media app out there. Like here in FriendFeed, or Twitter, or even email.
- Jeff Harbert
Doesn't wave cover the email paradigm well? Especially if you consider the federation/protocol part?
- Jan Cifra
Big 3: Google, Microsoft, Apple, not maybe in that order. So deserves its TWIT show
- Mark
Leo, can you talk about running your own Wave server. That would solve a lot of the issues with noise and unwanted people
- Johnny Worthington
stil waiting for my wave invite, wish i knew what was being talked about here
- Tate DA FF MVP
What about a This Week in Bing. TWiB. Haha.
- Danny Minick
Now I really understand why FriendFeed didn't add multi-level threading.
- Robert Scoble
Mark, thats what the Gilmour Gang was
- ralphsaunders
Danny, as Mark pointed out and Leo has stated... Apple and MS are both essentially platforms or ecosystems, as is Google... so it makes sense and just as in his other shows, the content isn't alwayslimited to google
- Gabe
Unlike Twitter you have to have other people who are already engaged to use Wave, so it will start as a business / org app
- Matt
the smartest people in the world are on the TWiT network ;)
- Mark
A good use for Wave would be for the TWiT shows. You can pause the live stream and it will buffer from where you left off but the Friendfeed room moves on so you are behind the chat and have no idea what is being talked about. Could make a wave client for TWiT shows so you can "playback" what you missed in synch with the video stream.
- Mark
Btw can you sort Waves based on contacts? The "Inbox" UI seems very confusing if you consider you could have hundreds of contacts - it could get messy.
- Jan Cifra
Hisham: If you have ever seen a successful wiki implementation, at work for example, the knowledge capture is amazing. I can see Wave taking this to the next level - especially the real time component.
- Marshall Huwe
I have Google Voice. So I hope I get Google Wave too as well.
- Danny Minick
This sounds like all colleges would replace its whiteboards with this, what will it cost, if any??
- Rick
Now THAT gave us a taste of what will be cool about Google Wave. But they never should have pitched it as a "new email."
- Robert Scoble
At university we have used wave to take notes at lectures, and by using it we can share thoughts of it and sound files from the lecture feks
- Devlin
It would be more interesting if voice dialog transcribed into conference - who said what
- notagolfer
Gabe, probably the same time it takes the transcription currently.
- Jeff Harbert
Wave *MIGHT* be an excellent tool for education. Unfortunately, I don't have access to it. Hope that Google will give all their Google Apps for Edu accounts access to it right away.
- Rom Feria
Anyone need an invite? I'll give out 3 of mine. Warning, it seems to take a while (days) for them to go out.
- invariant - farewell FF
Kevin is the smartest guy on the GG and now on TWiG
- Mark
Jeff, I meant before google integrates it into wave... unless it already is?
- Gabe
"Remember how they used the word 'wave' in Firefly? I wonder if that's where the Wave team got the name." That would be pretty funny, Jeff Harbert.
- Matt Cutts
Gabe, dunno if it's currently integrated or not.
- Jeff Harbert
@Hisham: do you have patients? do you do research? do you have staff? do you have peers? Don't know your situation obviously, but I can see lots of opportunity for knowledge capture, realtime collaboration, etc.
- Marshall Huwe
Ok, Simon Wicks, notagolfer, Rick and +1 for Jeff Harbert: I'll follow you, DM me an email address to use.
- invariant - farewell FF
Ribbit gadget it's really useful, imagine if TWiG can be segmented in episodes and each segment is a threaded wave, it will be easier for people that were not able to follow it in realtime, catch-up with the content/comments generated
- Alberto Saavedra
hi @mattcutts, you should invite @jewelstaithe to Wave...
- Kevin Marks
Thats an interesting Q's, how will Google integrate this into all its other Apps
- Rick
is scoble the only one not excited about Wave ?
- Mark
Here is why it will replace email. I send back and forth 6 emails about a subject to a person on my team. hen we have to bring someone else in on the conversation. They then have 12 emails to read before they catch up.
- Johnny Worthington
Mark: Re: Kevin Marks...And he's a really cool, laid back, and approachable in person.
- James Williams
Mark: no, I've gotten hundreds of replies from people who don't get it either.
- Robert Scoble
why is "Leo Laporte Makes $1" a trending topic on twitter???????????????
- Mark
@ribbit could add transcription of the calls into the wave, but there is a lag to do it
- Kevin Marks
Mark: see Mashable. Leo gave a talk at the Online News Association earlier today where he announced that his revenues are more than a million a year.
- Robert Scoble
re: ribbit gadget transcription: And it doesn't like some British accents ;)
- James Williams
Wow over $1million profit in a year after paying his staff!
- Mark
Jeff: Not much I think. It'll be just another place to check. But that could change if Android/iPhone gets a native client with a slick interface.
- James Williams
Not profit, Mark. Leo's statement was $350 K in costs and $1.5 mil in revenue.
- Debi Jones
when is Google Wave coming invites Gmail users ?
- Michael Holzinger
the more money Leo makes the more likely we will have a new studio for TWiT Live soon with 480p stream and downloadable videos and more camera angles and new shows
- Mark
Quentin: same here. 3 nominations incoming, no sign from Google...
- Holger Eilhard
Johnny: Let's figure out the user exp first before they make it mainstream. Wave doesn't fit their model where they choose to broadcast but not engage.
- James Williams
James: Additionally it creates a hype... It's all like Gmail again :)
- Holger Eilhard
Usually if I miss a show, I keep watching live.twit.tv, I like serendipity of it :)
- notagolfer
How about live streaming in a Wave? That could revolutionize TWiT.
- Jeff Harbert
but I bet within a year or two TWiT live has 480p streaming and downloads
- Mark
But if I run my own server... Can't I control who joins?
- Johnny Worthington
Jeff: I would think so, I've seen group viewing in a wave (start/stop/ff/rewind of videos was synchronized and allowed video comments)
- James Williams
Does having more monitors really improve your productivity?
- tytycoon
Mark: It's the sweet spot for pricing. Quite a bit less $$$ than 24".
- Jeff Harbert
Oh Leo was your father on radio in Providence?
- Andrew Euell
I'm loving how Jeff Jarvis is thinking about the X PRIZE model for collaborative innovation. Here's his post on the subject he just discussed http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009... We're really trying to get that thought process out there.
- Mark Krynsky
When im coding at work, multiple monitors are awesome !!!
- Kashif Khan
Kevin is right. I'm excited about having my news curated by my social graph. Here's a service that is providing that info based on links created by who I follow on Twitter http://www.twittertim.es/krynsky
- Mark Krynsky
yeah that "Old Pakistan" comment didnt compute here either
- Kashif Khan
I find that by the end of this show I always have a million links open from both the chat and the show. What do you folks use to organize these things? Read it later? http://www.ideashower.com/ideas...
- tytycoon
Oh gosh, Dvorak was right about Bing, Yahoo and Google... :)
- Holger Eilhard
Leo, have you ever tried to Skype with someone who is in China for the live stream? Wonder if there would be any network issues doing a stream from China.
- Debi Jones
Tease: Today on TWiG: wave wave and nothing but wave. Marshal Kirkpatrick, Kevin Marks, join our rgulars Gina Trapani and Jeff Jarvis to take a look at Google Wave. Everything's shiny captain, This Week In Google is coming up next
- Leo Laporte
No wonder you have so many hats in your studio. You had to wear them all!
- shelter watch
Watched your ONA speech, it was excellent. Makes me wonder why you're not on more tech conference speaker rosters?
- Debi Jones
That is pretty epic data transfers with the flash drives. Did you ever have any problems with backing up? have you ever lost a show?
- tytycoon
Josh and I use dropbox and we take turns each week to edit. Juggling time for that with family and work is tough
- Johnny Worthington
I think Fibre Chanel for just a few stations is VERY over rated. ISCSI or NFS is quite enough if properly designed, and a fraction of the cost.
- kevin
I love dropbox. I use it for everything
- tytycoon
Leo, I was wondering if you should have single 'After Hours' post on twit-conversations so we don't fill show threads with off-topic chat
- Johnny Worthington
I thought you were moving to a storefront?
- shelter watch
This cottage looks so much nicer than what I imagine a storefront would be
- tytycoon
That's a lovely, historic location that you are in now. I love architecture history.
- shelter watch
I quess $30 is nit bad if you can actually use this to be productive. Thanks tytycoon
- Johann Diaz
from Nambu
Finally getting a chance to listen to this... Just to clarify, Wave is not really extension to XMPP per se. The federation protocol between Wave servers is XMPP based, but the client-server communication (in this case the communication between your browser and the Wave server) isn't using XMPP. I believe that at the moment it's a proprietary format for exchanging JSON. There's some discussion both on Wave and in Google Groups about standardization, but it's distinct from server-server federation right now.
- Ken Sheppardson
Can't here your commentors. also how do I listen or see yerterday's gillmore gang.
- Arnie Klaus
Leo will explain periodically that the caller audio is muted by request of radio stations
- Thomas James
the last few Gillmor Gangs haven't been released as audio podcasts. the only way to see them is to wait for them to appear in the rerun lineup (sadly, there is no fixed schedule for this)
- Thomas James
yah, i tried to ask yesterday why they haven't been published
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Steve is working with Google right now to get the video versions of Gillmor Gang up on YouTube. No luck so far (files too large?)
- Thomas James
Putting your shoes in the dishwasher? Disgusting...
- Byron McCollum
This is like the old days of TV broadcast, only with no schedule. (instant replay seems so essentail in the twitter age)
- Arnie Klaus
Leo is planning to make all shows available as on-demand video downloads (in addition to audio downloads), but that's going to take time to set up
- Thomas James
I believe Steve Gillmor has full control over the distribution of the Gillmor Gang. That's why you can't download the audio versions from twit.tv like the other shows.
- Thomas James
Live is ideal, but not always possible.
- Thomas James
Thanks Thomas, that is news after spending 40 minutes trying to look for yesterday's show. This announcement would be a great footnote on the live.twit.tv website.
- Arnie Klaus
Arnie: slowly but surely this will all be sorted out. Also, if you look in live FriendFeed comments from yesterday's Gillmor Gang, some of this is addressed.
- Thomas James
gillmor gang should make the switch from techcrunch to twit. doesn't seem that mike is doing much for it.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
I have an old Dell Latitude I use as a surround sound and magicjack phone server ....I would love to get m,y hands on some of those dumped ones.
- earl wallace
addendum: does anyone know of a site that sells laptops cheap, used ones that is.
- earl wallace
To get my moneys worth I have downloaded special clients to give me the same access to my sites and data as at home. I have tried to find a tether plan(besides tetherberry thats 60 bucks) there is not one so far for the BB Bold but for the curve.
- earl wallace
The clients for the Blackberry are fine with me so as not to have a need for the Iphone. The blackberry rocks.
- earl wallace
The only reason I don't have the iPhone is because I need actual keys.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
At the time i got my blackberry it was only $20 for unlimited data and texts with t-mobile. Love the curve, but am thinking about the iPhone because of the apps.
- Mike Child
Emini: actually that is NOT true if you go back and look at the polling data. Every poll showed Bush was ahead the last two days of that election. The exit polling, though, was bad and so was the reporting.
- Robert Scoble
Weird,, I guess I remember the media calling Kerry to win
- EminiAddict
I recently bought the current generation MacBook Pro and I do see some reasons to think about getting a new one but on the other hand - there isn't any killer reason to really do so.
- Jan Cifra
I did not find this spine chilling at all. More left wing scare tactics. Truth is, Given the criteria laid out in this video, you should be no less scared of Obama as President. And, truth is, I'm not scared of either. Things are going to get worse, much worse, before they get better, and they aren't going to get better because of a U.S. President.
- ComicList
Bush quote: "the truth will say that this intelligence has been intelligent"
- Mohamed J
Damn McCain we lose Obama we lose! WTF? The world is ready for Armageddon one way or another! It is not just the president it is the people behind him! Look at Nanci Peloci, she acts like she is on drugs! And she is a democrat! <sad day for the whole world>
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Or maybe counter-revolution. Like "Down with Rooseveltian stuff! Back to Federalist Papers!"
- 9000
There is no doubt that McCain will use force. Why did that dude have to lead the American cities question with "Seattle"? Fuck.
- Ryan
I'm way more scared of Obama. We will look back at these past few years as the good old days, back when people had jobs. Ugh.
- Hal Rottenberg
from twhirl
Mo: I'm pretty sure Bush said "the truth will say that this intelligence is good intelligence". That said, McCain needs to be stopped and this foolish reign of crazy, self absorbed, war mongering dictators must end. I feel sure that McCain won't be voted into office.
- Brandon Titus
The thing that slows the ambitions of nations like Iran is the threat of US force. Any canidate that takes that threat off the table is destablizing the world.
- Robert Hafer
@Hal- you're seriously scared of Obama? C'mon. We're in debt because we cannot afford war. Debt is what impacts the economy. That's why people are shorting the dollar.
- Ryan
"He will make Cheney lok like Ghandi" - Pat Buchanan on John McCain. Damn, that is quite a statement.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Who's taken the threat of force against Iran off the table?
- Internet's Tad
I always worry most about economic policies, an America with a strong economy can withstand alot of other problems. Any canidate that talks about raising taxes scares me.
- Robert Hafer
@Tad that's what many posters seem to want from McCain.
- Robert Hafer
I am a not US resident and McCain scares the crap out of me...
- Jan Cifra
Hafer Yeah I hear you. look what happened when Clinton raised taxes. Who wants to go back to the days of a booming economy, full employment, budget surpluses and raising wages. *shudder*
- Jeff Jones
Wow. That response got totally munged by Twirl. Let's try that again. What is the alternative? Oh, right. Borrow ourselves into oblivion. We're so awesome, we've figured out a way to tax our decendants to finance our wildly out of balance lifestyle. Whatever social programs Obama wants to implement are a drop in the bucket next to an un-necessary $1-5 Trillion with a T war with Iraq. At...
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- stretta
I consider myself fiscally conservative in my political views and in that regard usually side with the Republicans but I just haven't been able to do it for several years now. There's a point when one has to realize that the ramifications of a liberal fiscal policy really doesn't matter when we're at war with the whole world. I'd be damned if there's another military draft without justification, a la Vietnam, and our current diplomatic posture and saber rattling is not a good enough reason...
- grant fox
...I take recession over warmongering any day.
- grant fox
Jeff, the Clinton surplus never materialized, because the economy was predicted to continue growing at the pre-increase rate, which of course it didn't because of the tax increases. Clintons vaunted "full employment" was at 6% unemployment, the rate now is 5.7%, The booming economy was the result of Reagan's fiscal policies. Clinton was leaving office just as the damage he did to the economy was becoming obvious.
- Robert Hafer
iphonegirl, I would think that people on your side of the pond would remember Neville Chamberlain and what came of his efforts to avoid war at any cost.
- Robert Hafer
Bottom line on war is we need to participate with the world and not mandate. America needs to check its ego at the door and foster the relationships we have squandered.
- Andy Lewandowski