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Leo Laporte
Wheels down in Dubai. Met a fan on board. Deadheading Pilot Bruno. Lovely trip. Emirates is fantastic.
Very cool! Huge fan good luck with the speech! - Jeff Swoih
good luck with the speech - Chris Strange
Welcome to Dubai Leo. Hope you have a great time here. - Rob Hitchings
Very glad you guys arrived Dubai safely and it's a lovely trip :) Have fun ^_^ - mahjongmi
"break a leg" Leo! "On dit merde" in French - randulo
Leo Laporte
Live now: MacBreak Weekly 155 with Andy Ihnatko and Alex Lindsay. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
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One of the main reasons of the smaller install is the lack of PPC code. - Jason Thompson
Apple users also run updates religiously. I just worked on an XP a week ago that had NEVER had updates - not even SP2 - Elliot Christenson
uh oh stream is buffering - Elliot Christenson
@Elliot : Fair enough, but people find it easy to forget the tons and tons of PCs that do get updated just fine. And with Vista, I find that few have trouble staying updated. - Jean-Gabriel Mailloux
true. I think Vista - other than taking forever to boot is a solid product - Elliot Christenson
XP sp2+ also. Most Windows Update problems I've seen (I do tech repair) are pretty much all pre-sp2. - Jean-Gabriel Mailloux
that is all true. I guess the main reason was in response to why the Mac is less of a target. Very few users are running Cheetah, Panther, Jaguar - even Tiger - Elliot Christenson
tons of users are running XP - Elliot Christenson
Precisely. - Jean-Gabriel Mailloux
no dissent in the echo chamber? ;-) - Elliot Christenson
@Elliot Especially since the majority of Mac users have switched to Intel. That means at least Tiger. - Jason Thompson
I think Apple's rejection of Google Voice is completely legit - Elliot Christenson
or NON-rejection ;-) - Elliot Christenson
The problem is, whenever there is a story like this, we never end up with the truth about what happen. The FCC thing will obviously go nowhere. No one seems to do righteous investigations/punishment anymore. - Jean-Gabriel Mailloux
Looking forward to Snow Leopard. - Nick Young
Does anyone think that releasing Snow Leopard before the 999 event Apple is up to something? - pmclem
to answer leo's question, i've mentioned makeuseof.com in an earlier ff comment: http://ff.im/6Kxmh - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
LANjackal
Final Firefox 3.5 update: a new logo - Mozilla Links - http://mozillalinks.org/wp...
Final Firefox 3.5 update: a new logo - Mozilla Links
I like the current best. - Candace
For me current version works best :) - Ronald
I like the current one - Ravindran Navaneethan
ya, current version works best. But in 32*32 , perhaps the current one & proposed one looks no differents. - LeON
where's the fire?! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
its down under the globe. - TrafficBug
Current one is definately the best. - Amy
i really like the proposed version, hope new logo makes it :) - Dani Martínez
I prefer the current version - TiTi
Um, yeah, big deal... ;) - Holger Eilhard
As far the .ico file goes that change wont even be noticeable. - Adi
I prefer the proposed version, but I doubt it's gonna make much of a difference - LANjackal
Leo Laporte
The Textedit icon blown up. trumcgowan: Here’s to the crazy ones. via harrygreen - http://leo.tumblr.com/post...
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trumcgowan:
  Here’s to the crazy ones. via harrygreen
Does anybody know what the Keynote one says? - Jamie
That's fantastic, never thought it actually said something. - Chris from twhirl
Fanatical attention to detail... freaking awesome! - Victor Panlilio
Jaime: Lyrics to a song, called "The Bitch of Living" (seriously) Link w/lyrics: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthr... - Lee Adkins
awesome. thanks Lee! - Jamie
Ken Sheppardson
I wonder where FriendFeed would fall on the Twitter client stats list if everybody left Cc: Twitter checked for a month...
I keep it checked permanently :) - Roberto Bonini
Roberto: Are you using FriendFeed as your main Twitter posting service or is it one of many? - Paul Jacobson
I use Tweetdeck and TwitterFon. :) - Roberto Bonini
But yeah it is where the majoroty of my tweets come from. - Roberto Bonini
As do I, Roberto. I'm not piping other stuff into Twitter, though. I've tried it a couple of times but it feels like spam. - Leo Laporte
Yeah that would be an interesting to see. I just don't use it because I already forward my FriendFeed messages into Twitter via the Feed Publishing feature in the FriendFeed settings. - Rolf Schewe
Leo: You can choose what pipes into Twitter. I personally only send status updates, not everything. - Rolf Schewe
Same as rolf, onlu push status updates not everything - David Berrebi
Dave Winer
Techmeme is one of the sites that [the] editor-in-chief of the The Wall Street Journal, presumably thinks is a "parasite" http://news.cnet.com/8301-10...
Robert Scoble
I want to be the first to say it here on FriendFeed: landslide. #landslide08 I'm getting more and more confident thanks to early voting. Even attacking Syria or finding Bin Laden won't help McCain, especially since McCain attacked Bush this week.
I know where you're coming from. I keep hearing about the Bradley Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) though... He still needs more Support! please don't be complacent and VOTE!! All of us in Europe are rooting for you... - Jez Arnold
Jez: believe me we are mad and we are going to vote in record numbers. Already early voting lines are super long. - Robert Scoble
The Bradley effect hasn't been seen in over 15 years, and it only works if there aren't any good reasons to not support a candidate. Obama has more than enough things people can use as their reason for not voting for him, so there'd be no reason to say you're voting for him to a pollster when you're not. - Mark Trapp
oh know! mccain is going to suspend his compaign again and go hostile in syria! - Kyle Weller
anyways, I think Bush wants to catch bin laden before his presidency is over, this is what it could be about - Kyle Weller
It seems delta force is in that area, or another type of special operations force is their, it only makes sense - Kyle Weller
There has been no official confirmation from the US, but a US military spokesman in Baghdad, said the matter was being investigated. Alon ben-David, a security correspondent with Israel's Channel 10, believes American military action was taken against suspected al Qaeda territory on Syrian soil. He told SkyNews: "In a combined operation, four helicopters closed in on the target - a... more... - Jason Shultz
Bush and McCain are among the scariest politicians of all time. - Mike Reynolds
I hope so, Robert. If McCain wins in some other "questionable" election fiasco, I give up on the whole notion that any of this game matters and moving. - Neal Jansons from twhirl
The Bradley effect didn't actually exist anyhow. The polls that showed Bradley ahead were modeled incorrectly. Bradley's own polls showed the race to be a dead heat. And most likely in this election, if anything, there is a reverse Bradley effect. Most polls are discounting young voters, who are polling overwhelmingly Obama, and other voters who haven't voted in previous elections. - Alex Scoble
Alex: this is true. Many polls are undercounting those who only use cell phones (like me). That's why some polls show the race being close, while others show it to be a landslide (the landslide ones include cell phone only users, which tend to be younger, more educated voters who are going big time to Obama). - Robert Scoble
Don't get to confident. Its very easy for this to slide downhill. - CW™
I hope you are right but please don't get *that* confident about it. Obama's lead narrowed slightly to 9 points nationally in polls today. It's going to be closer than we think. - Kamath (नमः)
Let's talk about landslides on 11/5. Today is NOT the day to talk landslides. Over-confidence is a bitch. VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE. - Beebo Wallace
Yeah dont get too confidenct. Weren't you the one that was going to throw in the towel in September? - PC Easy from twhirl
<no jinx-o> - tiffany
PC Easy: that was before I saw that the economy was going to take attention away from Palin. Well, that and Palin turned out to be a lot stupider than I expected. - Robert Scoble
Chris: if it does turn out that McCain wins it'll be the largest political meltdown of all time. Because of all the early voting, too, it'll be very hard for that to happen now. - Robert Scoble
McCain now has to gain more than .67% of the popular vote a day to have any chance of winning. Of course it's even worse than that because he has to do that AND gain a lot of ground in the battle ground states. - Alex Scoble
I think you're right, but I'm not sure that's such a great thing for the country. I truly do hope that I am wrong. - David Risley
You will notice a big shift in the polls this week. Early on many polls are trying to influence public opion, as selection day draws closer they have to shift priority up be right to maintain credability. - Robert Hafer
"Most polls are discounting young voters" That's because, no matter who they say they are voting for, young people don't tend to vote. If that changes this election, Obama has a big advantage. - ComicList
enh, there's still a chance the GOP could rob the election like they've done in the past - Cee Bee
I tend to think it'll be closer than Scoble expects. But, its the electoral college that does it and Obama has a big advantage right now there. I also wouldn't be surprised to see voter fraud issues afterward. - David Risley
well if the guys being shot at had twitter we would know whats up, lol - Kyle Weller
"Well, that and Palin turned out to be a lot stupider than I expected" Well, somone has to represent the simple, stupid Americans like me who wouldn't vote for Obama even if he were the only name on the ballot, which, given his history, he would prefer. - ComicList
Cee Bee: I don't think it'll be close enough for them to steal it like 2000. - Robert Scoble
Cee Bee: Gimme a break. So, if the GOP wins, its robbery. If the Dems win, its the people's will? - David Risley
"Bush and McCain are among the scariest politicians of all time" I've never seen a scary politician. Obama is, however, tops the list of politicians I've seen who are willing to say and do anything to get elected. - ComicList
"If McCain wins in some other "questionable" election fiasco" Obama has already spelled out the plan if he loses, and it will go beyond the traditional Democratic "the election was stolen" nonsense. Obama has his followers "mad," and if he loses despite the election fraud that is rampant across the U.S., his followers will not just complain. We will see violence. - ComicList
Chuck thats just plain wrong. Your trying to spread fear and that is not cool. - CW™
"I don't think it'll be close enough for them to steal it like 2000" Let's try to stay in reality here. We can debate a great deal here, but the election was not stolen in 2000. That's a fact. - ComicList
@Kyle Good idea :-) - Nick Humphries
Michael: yeah, technically Bush didn't "steal" the election in 2000, true, good to call me on that. - Fast Company
Certainly not, Chris W. Now, Obama will decry any violence that occurs on his behalf, but he will absolutely explain it as the result of a stolen election. He will play both sides to achieve his goals, just as always. A consummate politician. - ComicList
Hey Robert Scoble, I see your subscribed to 3500 plus people. Who do you keep up with all the content you get from all these people? - Amir
No agreement on the landslide prediction from me. The electoral college does indeed favor Obama, and so does early voting. ACORN activities will be watched closely and hopefully they've hurt themselves bad enough to be shut down eventually. But when men and women across this country walk into that voting booth, they may surprise us all with their ability to think through the world that Obama may give them. - Daltonsbriefs
I'm worried that the McCain camp has a wildcard - that Obama might not have been born in the US. I think there should be a popular movement to amend/change the law that states that the US president must be a US-born citizen. - Tokyo Dan from twhirl
Good grief. that whole birth certificate thing is done. US court threw the lawsuit out as "laughable". - Karoli
Karoli: exactly. If the McCain campaign had anything real they would have used it before early voting started. I don't think there is a surprise coming. If one does it'll have to be something spectacularly huge and nasty. Even something like a terror attack wouldn't help at this point because McCain attacked Bush last week. - Robert Scoble
@Robert. You will LOVE this viral video. Do check it out and have fun with it. Imagine how I felt when a dear "friend" sent it to me. Loves it. The viral hit of NEXT week. http://bit.ly/DYXux Take away - DO NOT FORGET TO VOTE, talk is CHEAP! - Dave Martin
Leo Laporte
With all due respect to Senator McCain, I think the election is over. Obama won it tonight.
Absolutely. Well said. - Eric Geller
If you look at history, Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2 'lost' the debates. There is still a month and a lot of stuff to come. - Andrew Leyden
Not so sure about that. I don't think that either of these guys is really winning anything tonight. - Mark
and this was a town-hall. i thought this was mccains bread and butter... my friends - Jon Lee
As I said in another thread - Obama will probably win but you surely can't think this debate was some sort of turning point? This election turned weeks ago. - Soulhuntre from twhirl
I'm not so sure I still think that race is going to be an issue for Obama unfortunately - Craig Carignan from twhirl
I think if Obama loses, it will be declared a loss due to rampant racism in America. I think if Obama wins, it will be heralded as a triumph over racism in America. Neither will be true. - ComicList
If the election were held tonight, you'd likely be correct. It's in November. - Mattb4rd
@Charles - of course there will be efforts to tie it to racism... the charge of racism has been a great weapon for Obama in this, he isn't going to let go of it anytime soon. - Soulhuntre from twhirl
Matt, thanks, but I haven't forgotten when the election is. As Soulhuntre said, the charge of racism has been an effective tool for Obama, and it will continue to be one for him after the election, win or lose. - ComicList
Obama is a socialist. Big government...health insurance a "right"... - Spencer
Agreed. - Robert Scoble
Obama lacked presence, but both lacked substance - Zach Berg
@Spencer - so then you were against GWs largest expansion in govt in our lifetimes right? - Dave Hodson
For the racism discussion pls read Nicholas Kristof in NY Times on Racism without Racists http://is.gd/3BUy - Roxanne Darling from twhirl
Doesn't matter. Congress and senate are who we should pay attention to more than anything. - Patricia
interesting is that I have always been torn between partisan policies... Obama seems like a breath of fresh air. That is scary. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
They glossed over social security and medicare. Sure, we owe China $500 billion but we also owe over 40 trillion in social security & medicare (unfunded). Which one has you more worried? - beersage
Did I miss the election? My calendar says we have a month to go. - ChiliMac from twhirl
Momentum for the election is hugely moving towards Obama and doesn't look like it will let up soon. He's already got a sizeable 5+ point lead and is almost a 9:1 favorite to win. This close to the election those numbers are very stark. - Alex Scoble
Just curious, Alex "Maverick," how much would you be willing to bet on Obama at 9:1 odds? (Note: this is not an offer, I'm curious to know how valid you think those numbers are.) - Glen Mistletoe
30% of votes will be cast before election day. http://www.boston.com/news... - Leo Laporte
Get out your pom poms, Leo. - David Risley
This debate was not a turning point in one area - neither candidate was stellar, but a huge turning point in the other - neither candidate was stellar. McCain needed this one badly. - jcunwired
There has been no bigger government in recent history than the last four years of Republican administration. And you talk about socialism? Bush was against socialism before he was for it. - Rod Bauer from twhirl
Every day I get more disappointed in the choices we have in politicians, and even more disappointed in the way most people "discuss" important matters at hand. It is not a us vs them winning mentality that is going to help the sad state of our country's problems. - Jeremy Hall
Agreed! - Aaron Holverson
I wouldn't bet a paycheck, but I'd bet $50 on it that he'll win. I just can't see a scenario that gets McCain back in the race, other than them releasing something really bad about Obama and that's not likely to happen at this point. And by really bad, I of course mean, Willie Horton bad...and since he has never been in a position to pardon people or control a state's/city's criminal justice system that's not likely to happen, so it would have to be something else of equal magnitude... - Alex Scoble
Something that would show him not to be the man of the people that he's running as. - Alex Scoble
ACORN and voter fraud issues being directly connected to Obama would do the trick I think - Daltonsbriefs
Nope...if that issue hasn't come up yet, I doubt it will come up now. And it would be very hard to directly link Obama to voter fraud. Plus I don't think that issue resonates with voters much. Think bigger. - Alex Scoble
I'm sorry but the idea of one party controlling Congress and the Presidency again scares me. - ChiliMac
I concur chilimac but I think Obama shows some signs of being able to resist the worst excesses of Dems. Plus, if that's what happens, who should take the real blame for it? - Rick Powell
Rick: Us. - ChiliMac
I disagree. The Republicans should take the blame. The last 8 years plus McCain's campaign are the reasons why the GOP will lose this election. - Rick Powell
Kevin Rose
The most spine chilling McCain video you will ever see. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The most spine chilling McCain video you will ever see.
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I did not find this spine chilling at all. More left wing scare tactics. Truth is, Given the criteria laid out in this video, you should be no less scared of Obama as President. And, truth is, I'm not scared of either. Things are going to get worse, much worse, before they get better, and they aren't going to get better because of a U.S. President. - ComicList
Bush quote: "the truth will say that this intelligence has been intelligent" - Mohamed J
Damn McCain we lose Obama we lose! WTF? The world is ready for Armageddon one way or another! It is not just the president it is the people behind him! Look at Nanci Peloci, she acts like she is on drugs! And she is a democrat! <sad day for the whole world> - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Watch my video post, "Is America going to attack Iran?" http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
time for revolution - Bob Blunk
Or maybe counter-revolution. Like "Down with Rooseveltian stuff! Back to Federalist Papers!" - 9000
There is no doubt that McCain will use force. Why did that dude have to lead the American cities question with "Seattle"? Fuck. - Ryan
I'm way more scared of Obama. We will look back at these past few years as the good old days, back when people had jobs. Ugh. - Hal Rottenberg from twhirl
Very well put together. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Just what we need - another 4 yrs at least of McBush...He should just change his name to keep the theme going - EcoAussie from twhirl
"Fear's selling, who's buying?" - Matt Hartley
Mo: I'm pretty sure Bush said "the truth will say that this intelligence is good intelligence". That said, McCain needs to be stopped and this foolish reign of crazy, self absorbed, war mongering dictators must end. I feel sure that McCain won't be voted into office. - Brandon Titus
The thing that slows the ambitions of nations like Iran is the threat of US force. Any canidate that takes that threat off the table is destablizing the world. - Robert Hafer
@Hal- you're seriously scared of Obama? C'mon. We're in debt because we cannot afford war. Debt is what impacts the economy. That's why people are shorting the dollar. - Ryan
"He will make Cheney lok like Ghandi" - Pat Buchanan on John McCain. Damn, that is quite a statement. - Darrell Bell from twhirl
Who's taken the threat of force against Iran off the table? - Internet's Tad
I always worry most about economic policies, an America with a strong economy can withstand alot of other problems. Any canidate that talks about raising taxes scares me. - Robert Hafer
@Tad that's what many posters seem to want from McCain. - Robert Hafer
I am a not US resident and McCain scares the crap out of me... - Jan Cifra
Hafer Yeah I hear you. look what happened when Clinton raised taxes. Who wants to go back to the days of a booming economy, full employment, budget surpluses and raising wages. *shudder* - Jeff Jones
Wow. That response got totally munged by Twirl. Let's try that again. What is the alternative? Oh, right. Borrow ourselves into oblivion. We're so awesome, we've figured out a way to tax our decendants to finance our wildly out of balance lifestyle. Whatever social programs Obama wants to implement are a drop in the bucket next to an un-necessary $1-5 Trillion with a T war with Iraq. At... more... - stretta
I consider myself fiscally conservative in my political views and in that regard usually side with the Republicans but I just haven't been able to do it for several years now. There's a point when one has to realize that the ramifications of a liberal fiscal policy really doesn't matter when we're at war with the whole world. I'd be damned if there's another military draft without justification, a la Vietnam, and our current diplomatic posture and saber rattling is not a good enough reason... - grant fox
...I take recession over warmongering any day. - grant fox
Jeff, the Clinton surplus never materialized, because the economy was predicted to continue growing at the pre-increase rate, which of course it didn't because of the tax increases. Clintons vaunted "full employment" was at 6% unemployment, the rate now is 5.7%, The booming economy was the result of Reagan's fiscal policies. Clinton was leaving office just as the damage he did to the economy was becoming obvious. - Robert Hafer
iphonegirl, I would think that people on your side of the pond would remember Neville Chamberlain and what came of his efforts to avoid war at any cost. - Robert Hafer
Bottom line on war is we need to participate with the world and not mandate. America needs to check its ego at the door and foster the relationships we have squandered. - Andy Lewandowski
Dennis Howlett
SAP is demonstrating as much more cohesive go to market strategy across its SME offerings. Looking good.
Dave Winer
What model it is? - americanm
Very nice. I look forward to updates on performance, as it's on my short list. - Steve Lowe
I'm surprised that you went with the windows verson. I would of thought that the linux verson with the greater disk size would of been a better choice for the same money. - Bluesun 2600 from twhirl
My main app only runs on Windows and Mac. Can't do it with Linux. Shame, I know. - Dave Winer
what's the verdict? does it worth it? - fbrunel
Lenovo is about to roll out a mini-PC, I'm wondering which one is the best? - fbrunel
I'm trying to get a Lenovo S10 pre-release to bring with me to Denver, not much chance I'll get it but I'm in contact with the Lenovo people. It's a total lust machine. http://www.jkontherun.com/2008... - Dave Winer
That Lenovo looks pretty slick. I'm thinking of getting a netbook in a near future. I may wait for that one to come out. - imabonehead
I've been using my 900 for a while now. Very happy with it. Running linux, keeping it a very simple netbook. - Chuck
Duncan Riley
Randy Pausch: 1960–2008 - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
I had a professor read the last lecture as part of his retirement; it's definitely a good read. It's so sad to see Pausch go. - Mark Trapp
It's so Sad! He made our world richer with is intelligence and good humor. I wish all the best to their kids. - Fernando
I am so happy I got to interview him. One of my favorites! - Robert Scoble
I just looked back on my blog from meeting him: http://scobleizer.com/2006... -- interesting that he had a big impact on me even back then. - Robert Scoble
Really very sad. I saw his last lecture and was very impressed. Always hoped, he would get through this... - Matthias Schwenk
So sad - he gave one of the great speeches of all time and in such an unassuming, selfless way. I'm glad his kids will at least have that to treasure. - JMaultasch
An inspiration to many. He will be missed - Tim Finucane
One of the finest. Some people are great a reminding us how to live, mainly by example. He was one of them. His web page doesn't seem to be loading..does anyone see where we can leave thoughts for his family and friends? - Loren Heiny
A real loss. I never met him (obviously) but I know of him through the eyes of those who did. - Soulhuntre from twhirl
The book was amazing. - Steve Rubel
Fuck. fuckfuckfuckfuck. Randy was one of my favorite HCI teachers at CMU, and I'm so glad that his 'Last Lecture' got the world-wide attention that it did. I can't imagine being as brave as him in this place, and he fought off the cancer for about 6 months longer than the 4 months his doctors gave him. Even though I've known this was coming for months it's still really hard. - Kevin Fox
I keep putting off the book, which is ironically exactly the opposite of what I should be doing: moving forward and living life instead of treading water and letting life happen. Peace to you, Randy. - Kevin C. Tofel
I'm very sad but will always be inspired by the way he spent his last several months. - Dimitrios Diamantaras
I was a huge fan of Randy's; his work will live on far longer than this in the lives of those he influenced. - Aaron Krug
i love the "bedside conversion" line... - Don Martelli from twhirl
Inspirational. Will be watching his video many times throughout my life. Brave, wise man... - Hao Chen
What better way to go than knowing that you made every day count and that you touched the lives of so many people around the world! Even though his departure is a huge loss, we are blessed with the inspiration he leaves us with! - Gabriel Biguria
I'm going to order the book, finally. - Roberto Bonini
He understood life and therefore death. He was attached to what was important in life, not to life itself. He was proof of the fact that scientists and engineers are the most spiritual of people. My thoughts are with his family - I hope they know how many are thinking of them today. - Kamath (नमः)
Louis Gray
Twitter Acquires Summize - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
I still don't know if I agree to the "smart" factor of this decision. Twitter seems to have enough issues of its own that need to be fixed, before they go integrating new features and overtaking other startups. - Bradley McSpinn
They bought smart developers.... search is a side bonus - Jason Carreira
@Spinn.. I disagree. They can fix infrastructure and look to new features. This is very relevant to them - and their future revenue streams. - David Sim
I wholeheartedly agree that they need to move forward. I just think that they need to get a handle on what's already going wrong before they integrate. Not saying that the acquisition was a bad thing. Simply saying that I hope they don't put the cart before the horse. - Bradley McSpinn
Smart? Yep. They just bought an engineering team for stock. From TC "The size of the transaction is not being disclosed, although the transaction price was paid 'mostly in stock.' Twitter has also hired 5 of the 6 Summize employees. Founder and CEO Jay Verdy will move on to a new project. The five Summize employees joining Twitter are all engineers, adding to the twelve engineers that currently work at Twitter. Summize CTO Greg Pass will become Twitter’s top tech guy as Director of Engineering and Ops." - Ken Sheppardson
The Twitter blog says "All five Summize engineers will move to San Francisco, CA and take jobs at Twitter, Inc." - http://blog.twitter.com/ - Ken Sheppardson
Oh goody. Well, Summize was nice while it lasted. - Cyndy
so whats was the net net value ? chatter was 8-10M - that would be a pretty nefty buyout - Peter Dawson
That's a really good move. Summize is a neat piece of software and damn fast! - fbrunel
I don't think Summize could really do anything else, I think their mission was Twitter to buy them and use them as Twitter Search. Kudos to them! - Mike Lewis
Mike, you're right. But can you explain the $15mil valuation from this perspective? - Alex Popescu from twhirl
Jason Calacanis
Korean Pro Gamers are Rockstars - http://digg.com/pc_game...
Duplication on FF is a big problem. This got posted on FF/Digg & twitter, I know you're just trying to reach the biggest audience but on FF it makes the feed alot longer. - Steven Cains
What Cains said. - Richard Klein
I've only been on here a few days but gather people don't mind duplication. Someone earlier today wrote about the ability to filter out duplicate URLs in the feed, which would indeed be a good idea. - James Joyner
Filter would be hard to implement due to twitter using tinyurl normally. This time it went on Digg & Friendfeed, it seems a bit redundant to do both, his digg would have shown up here. It also means the conversation thread is split. - Steven Cains
Jason Calacanis
Korean Pro Gamers are Rockstars - http://www.wegame.com/watch...
I played Starcraft on a competitive level for some years and the South Koreans are very special. It is not just in StarCraft but in a general tech point of view. They have very sophisticated views on the place of technology in society whether it's games, gadgets services - anything. I had the luck of meeting a few of the progamers (Xellos, Midas, ForU) in San Francisco for the WCG 2004 and it was very interesting. - Jan Cifra from twhirl
Jason Calacanis
Looking at: "Digg - Korean Pro Gamers are Rockstars" (http://digg.com/pc_game...)
Louis Gray
Microsoft on Vista: ‘The time of worry is over.’ - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
"Brooks also re-emphasized that because Windows 7 won’t veer widely from Vista’s hardware requirements and core set of features, partners should encourage customers to move to Vista today in so they will be well-prepared for Windows 7." --- Does not compute - Kevin D. White
Pfffffffffffffffffffffffff. - l0ckergn0me
I probably have to show this to one guy, who was yesterday sending all the hell on heads of M$ (together with other 108,000+ people) where MS can NOT solve HW/drivers/SW issues for months... or probably forgot to do so :) - A.T.
hahahahahajhahahaahahajahajahahahahahah. Woooooooo!!!! - Bwana ☠ from fftogo
Too little, too late. I still love XP. It does its job and I don't have to spend $300 or whatever ridiculous amount of money I need to spend to do what I need to do. - Michael Gaines
so essentially, it WAS and IS crap but you should move to it anyway in preparation for more crap called Windows 7....jeesh, I sure hope they have more going on than the two cash cows called Windows and Office... - Kevin Cearns
I found it somehow amusing - Dobromir Hadzhiev
@Bwana this is not exactly funny, actually - majority of people out there _is_ dependent on MS, and majority of IT basics education goes on guess-which platform... - A.T.
Maybe Brooks listens to TWiT, a couple of episodes ago they were talking about how Apple has been promoting OSX at the expense of Vista and MS hasn't done anything at all to combat it. - Jason Shultz from twhirl
@silpol Some concessions were made to Vista compatibility for security reasons. It's better overall for the computing landscape to not support crappy applications and drivers. - Paul Whitaker
@Starman you can get an upgrade to Home Premium for $119 on amazon.com. ;) - Paul Whitaker
I like the admission that Vista is vastly improved now. kind of saying that it was not fully ready at RTM. This does nothing to assure people of Windows Seven - its the next attempt at fulfilling all Vista's promises and it's still winodws under the hood. We need a new OS built for the 21st Century with 21st Century programming, not an OS whose heritage goes back to DOS. - Roberto Bonini
@rbonini: technically, modern Windows (since NT) has more VMS heritage than DOS's. DOS is emulated in it, and not quite brilliantly: dosbox does better. - 9000
Agreed. Web 3.0? The advent of the WebOS? All you need is a thumbdrive with a browser... - Jon Cline from twhirl
I absolutely love both my Vista machines. Just sayin'. - mrshl
Dennis Howlett
SAP’s TV budget: more waste - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Yeah its very bad. - Fred Grott
the pattern of http://www.fastcompany.tv/workfas... in general seems to be "here's the guest, but lets talk crap for a couple minutes first". from a marketing perspective who ARE SAP after with this sponsorship ? - martin english
A good counter-example is BMW's sponsoring TED Talks. - Ole Begemann
Martin: SAP is after small and medium businesses. The "let's talk for a couple minutes first" format is going to change, though. David Allen will be on next week, and he's very influential in the markets they want to reach. - Robert Scoble
But SAP is for heavy industries, very powerful and expensive, we had SAP for "poor people" MS Navision, but still expensive (hours and hours of consulting work to customize it to every client). - Mário Pires
Mario: most of SAP's growth comes from small and medium sized businesses. This is a show about how the Internet is changing how work is done. Fits right into what kind of market they are trying to reach. - Robert Scoble
SAP's model of over pricing and under delivering will never work in the SMB market. Frankly, it's only because of the state of enterprise IT that they've been able to exist at that level. SMB won't have the patience to put up with it. - Kevin Cearns
Robert, if I was attempting to reach a new market that I am just getting into as a company would not the first 3 sentences in a video show be abut my firm and how it can serve that market? - Fred Grott
Ole and Fred: fair enough. We've been at this a month and are still trying to figure out what works. Thanks for the feedback. Luckily we have a sponsor who is willing to help us get started and see if we can make a quality show and get an audience that'll be loyal. So far we're ahead of the market in doing a show about the future of work, and we'll work to get the quality up. - Robert Scoble
I find it quite good that SAP is sponsoring WorkFast.TV! There certainly is a fit as SAP is moving towards Web 2.0 (and Enterprise 2.0). Of course showing silly cups with huge logos on them is not very creative. What about a person from SAP joining the conversation on the set? That would be really 2.0... - Matthias Schwenk
Fred: keep watching, we'll improve both the show's content and SAP's presence on the show. - Robert Scoble
Robert, i was not aware of that, probably because in here just big enterprises use it. - Mário Pires
Lets see, first 3 sentences: SAP provides software that helps both large and small businesses manage and innovate their business and supply relationships to lower costs and bring more services to their business relationship partners...obviously it has to be jazzed up advertising wise but that is a start - Fred Grott
I love Shel's cue cards. He's constantly looking down at them before speaking. - Rob Safuto
@Robert: I'm all for giving people a chance and I'm all for trying new things but that show was unwatchable. As a blogger with close ties to SAP, it was embarrassing. If you want to know where SAP growth comes from, read the 10K-Qs. It's dangerous to talk about people influential an any market. There are MANY influence points. - Dennis Howlett from twhirl
This might be one area where MSM could actually help out consulting. Hard to utter that, but true I think. - phil baumann
Robert, keep cranking away and focus on incremental improvement. - Mike Doeff
Jason Calacanis
Working on Mahalo's mission statement. Would love some feedback on it: "We're here to help people easily find information, answers and resources they can trust." - http://any feedback?
I trust you Jason and Mahalo! - Larry from twhirl
Go with the Jerry Maguire manifesto - stephen o reilly
It's nice, and accurate, but it would be great if we could get something in there about curation. I feel like that's the best description of what it is we actually do. - Lon Harris from twhirl
How about mentioning that "We're people helping people easily find info, etc." to differentiate from algorithms? - Tom Guarriello
Simple and to the point. Thumbs up! - Will Hirsbrunner
We are here to assist people by easily finding the right information, answers, and resources with a human touch ;) - Robert Barr
how about something about free pizza and tshirts? - Stefan Hayden
I think it needs to be more proactive . . . like "We help people find information, answers and resources they can trust." - Telemill
Yeah Cason I don't think you could've put it more simple - John Blanton from twhirl
Jeez, you've been hanging out with Leo too long...sounds like some of the TWiT network's catchphrase has rubbed off. However, it does sum up Mahalo to a T. - Steve Gillette from twhirl
It's a great mission statement. Especially with FTGs creating pages, and link checkers (such as mike, debbie, and jeffhoard) checking all user-submitted links. I say that mission statement is a keeper - nice and accurate. PS, Jason, I've left you a few pieces of feedback to your Mahalo email address. ;) - Chris Thomson
"Don't be google" - Stefan Hayden
Lon Harris: a mission statement shouldn't get into execution as that is secondary to purpose. Our mission is to help folks find this information, but the way we do that is going to change and evolve. The fact that we currently do curation of links is really not super important to the mission... if we wind up getting a better product using another process (i.e. social bookmarking or semantic search) then we will do that. So, that's why i left out "with humans" or "by using human intelligence." - Jason Calacanis
Or even . . . "With Mahalo find the information, answers and resources you can trust." - Telemill
I see your point, but regardless of the process, think Mahalo would always involve some form of curation. Even social bookmarking would "curate" the Web, albeit differently than we do now. - Lon Harris from twhirl
Well, it COULD be simpler . . . "Mahalo, information you can trust" but then you sound like a bank for something. - Telemill
A mission statement is about you, your business and your ideals.The best policy to a mission statement is to keep those three things in mind and, keep it short and simple. "We're here to help people easily find information, answers and resources they can trust." sounds a bit more like a catch phrase or slogan. What is Mahalo going to do to achieve that statement? - Candace
Telecommutingmillionaire: I like the "We" It adds the human element vital to Mahalo without beating you over the head. I agree that it seems long so here's a modification that takes out a few words,but not the meaning: "We're here to help you find trustworthy information, answers and resources." Leaving in the We and the You sends the "by human, for humans" message. - David Jones
I was musing the other day about whether mission statements still make sense. They remind of offsites and consultants. - John McCrea
The word information makes "answers and resources" redundant, doesn't it? How about "Mahalo is people connecting people to information they can trust.". - Joe Coughlin
@Telecommutingmillionaire "Mahalo, information you can trust" also sounds too close to "Netcasts you love from people you trust" from TWiT. For the network that Candace Holly and myself work on I picked the tagline "A Community of Creativity", simple and to the point. But that isn't exactly a mission statement rather than an overall tone. - The Geek Media
Don't forget to add a vision statement. Mission = What is our business. Vision = What we want to become. You will gain clarity by doing both rather than putting them into one statement. I have an outline that will get you there if you are interested. - Wade Bowlin
I think it's good. I think there can be a distinction between "answers" and "resources" and encourage you to keep the wording if it is accurate. - Kimberly J
How about adding something like: We sort through the rubbish, so you don't have to. - Ross Maguire
I think you should include the words "Real world" somewhere. Like "Solving real world problems." - jonn
needs to include the word "synergy" somewhere - Glen Mistletoe
Jason, it is alright, however... I would rather prefer the word "guide" to be placed in there. It shows that your company is more active in assisting the user instead of just "help" which seems more passive. - James Mowery from twhirl
needs more... "syngergy." And also some buzzwords indicating a strong human algorithm at work. =) - Andrew Ruess from twhirl
Andrew and I seem to be on the same path. That is, again, why I suggest replacing the word "help" with a stronger word. One that represents Mahalo's efforts in bringing the users the best quality information available. - James Mowery from twhirl
The tech writer in me wants to cut it down to "We help people easily find information, answers and resources they can trust." I agree that it doesn't emphasize the human element as much as I'd like. - Brent Newhall
Comment: Interesting that you're crowd-sourcing a mission statement-- seems that a singular point of view would be important. Suggestion: it helps to define scope, focus, and end-result. Right now, your mission statement doesn't appear to drive employees down particular directions when they hit crossroads. Example: Mahalo exists to guide customers to the most relevant and trustworthy answers whenever/wherever they have questions - Vijay Goel
We suck less than MS Search? :) - Fred Grott
shorten it a bit? We help people... Make it more assertive too. I think someone already said this? So I'm just a copycat - cecilia from twhirl
@David Jones, I still feel you are softening up the "punch" of the statement with "we're here". Take the here out. Rearrange the last few words so it flows off the mind and the tongue . . . "We help you find trustworthy answers, information and resources." Answers should be first, because we all really want good answers. Information is also what we are searching for but it's such a esoteric concept. And please, is there another word we can use for resources? It's just so . . . corporate speak. - Telemill
Vijay: This isn't crowdsourcing. :-) It's asking the cloud for comments and feedback. - Brent Newhall
Revisit Guykawasaki's lecture at last years Gnomedex, you'll end up with "Answers you can trust" - Greg Birch
I hate to say this but it doesn't really catch my attention. It seems too generic. - Blaine Fleming
It does sound like a corporate mission statement, I might Leo-ize it to "the answers you want, from people you trust." Just because Mahalo seems to be positioned as a friendlier entity than most corporations. - Robert Morrison
The test would be how many employees can remember, and recite the "mission" no fluff, all my staff know our mission is "to give patients hope" Guy gave a great talk, mission statements that sound great can be found at http://www.netinsight.co.uk/portfol... but they usually fail the staff test. Disney's mission statement "to make people happy" even a CEO can remember that. - Greg Birch
"we're here to help you find photos of hot chicks a lot quicker than normal" - Rick
mahalo: we do search without the suck - Andrew
We're here to help people enjoy finding answers, info and sources they can believe in. - Mark Alves
"We're here to help people easily find information, answers and resources they can trust by empowering the passionate internet community." - Techboy2000
Paul Thurrott
Retweeting @drapps: yAttach & gAttach apps which allow Gmail or Yahoo to be default mail program in Windows. http://is.gd/MS5 Brilliant!
Anything similar for the Mac? - Jan Cifra
l0ckergn0me
PDF has officially become an ISO standard: http://www.iso.org/iso... (official press release)
This is a really strong move for Adobe and for those of us who use PDF constantly. - Blake Robinson from Alert Thingy
Perhaps has something to do with Microsoft opening up their doc specs? - Kenneth Younger
will adobe reader be even slower now? i hope foxit will still work with the flash-enabled pdfs. - mike
mike: the new Adobe Reader coming out is dramatically faster. - Robert Scoble
robert: phew! maybe i can venture back to using it after my tryst with foxit. - mike
this has *nothing* to do with Microsoft... And this isn't really "news", it's just the ISO officialization of what we already knew since December: http://arstechnica.com/news... - Marcos Marado
It's a great document format, even though their own reader sucks, thank god for Apple's Preview. - Gerard van Schip
Finally. The whole industry-standard status was kind of weird since everyone treated it like a standard for years now anyway - Horst Gutmann
Robert Scoble
@Mobasoft streaming video from a cell phone is a major thing to be giddy about. Now I don't need a $500,000 satellite truck to get you video
I still don't get the fascination -- for most of the video you do there is little value being live (other than the live accompanying chat -- but maybe that is enough?). A small hand held video camera would produce much higher fidelity video and audio and in my opinion value for the viewer. - Brian Sullivan
@Brian - Well sure it would, after you download the video from your camera to your laptop, edit it, process it, and upload it to a video hosting service. - Ryan Sholin
But the quality is just so ropey. Even youtube is biting the high quality bullet these days. - Toby Graham
As mobile broadband proliferates things will get better; problem is there are still a lot of places where you need that truck. - Jared Smith
Ryan: so what is the downside of doing that (other than losing the live part) -- shouldn't the goal be to produce more value for the viewer? - Brian Sullivan
There are bandwidth limitations, the live feed is lost or switches to 1 frame per minute sometimes, but that probably will get better. The quality is very low right now. - Mário Pires
Brian: if I had to do all of that I would video far far fewer things and THAT would mean far less value to you. - Robert Scoble
I like the spontaneity of cell streaming and I still forsee an online news site w/ 'reporters' around the globe. - Craig Mische
@Brian - That all is just way, way too slow. I work in the news business, and my goal is to get news out as fast as possible on the Web. If you're making a 10-minute documentary, heck, take along the HV20 and the tripod, take your time, and win an award; I want breaking news streaming live as it happens. - Ryan Sholin
Robert: I think that I should be the judge of what is of value to me -- not you. Do you agree? More quantity <> more value -- though that seems to be the prevailing attitude. Video costs my time to consume and I don't want to spend my time on bad audio, pixelating pictures. I suspect though with some quick computer uploads from a decent camera and basic on the spot editing the quality... more... - Brian Sullivan
What about uStream? Surely you could rig up a cheap DV cam (or an old iSight) and either WiFi or cellular data connection? I understand the single device convenience, but it would offer a higher quality stream for users. Not criticizing, just wondering why you chose one option over the other. I personally love Qik, but I rarely do anything interesting enough to warrant live streaming,... more... - Ivan from fftogo
Brian: that's why I do many different types of video, from live in studio, to recorded on HD camcorders, to Qik, to make sure I give you as much value as possible and give you as many ways to interact with me as possible. But, my Qik's speak for themselves. Want to be on the South Lawn of the White House while I got a tour? Qik. Annie Leibovitz as show showed me her collection? Qik. Elon Musk as he gave me a ride in first production Tesla? Qik. And so on, so forth. - Robert Scoble
I simply would NOT have done those videos if I had had to carry yet another piece of equipment, recorded them on some card, and then uploaded them from a computer. Would NOT have happened. So, the Qik videos have MORE value than the system you are recommending, which would have NO value. Got it yet? - Robert Scoble
I totally disagree that the quantity would only suffer slightly. TOTALLY DISAGREE. You have no clue there. Why aren't you putting up one to five videos a day? Maybe because it takes time to video? Maybe because you forgot your camera at home? Maybe because socially it's improper to bring a camera along? - Robert Scoble
What if you could simply make a 3G video call and have the video streamed to your favorite video sharing site? Would you see more value in that solution? - Bruno Pedro
Ivan: uStream can't do videos from cell phones. I don't know where you got that idea. It's nothing like Kyte or Qik or Flixwagon or Bambuser. - Robert Scoble
Robert: But that fact that those videos were done in Qik was only your choice. Was it necessary to their value that they be done that way? I am guessing not. Did they "need" to be live? What extra value was there in doing them live? - Brian Sullivan
Bruno: I basically already do that with Qik and Kyte. There's not much we can do to get better quality unless we're willing to give up the "live" feature. If we are willing to do that we can get a little better quality. I like the liveness, though, because it lets you participate. - Robert Scoble
Robert: but with Qik and Kyte you still need to install applications on your cell phone, right? I'm talking about simply making a 3G video call, instantly, and have it streamed to your favorite video sharing site. Do you think it would appeal to journalists in general or people like you? - Bruno Pedro
Brian: you aren't hearing me. Yes. Because I would NOT have done them AT ALL if I had to upload them later. It's not the "liveness" that gets me going on many of these things (although that is massively cool, especially when you have an audience). It's the frictionless publishing and the fact that I always carry my cell phone everywhere. - Robert Scoble
Bruno: I'd be interested in trying it, but the 3G video calls I've seen don't allow for interactivity, which IS a huge deal on Qik/Kyte. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Right, and I agree that it might be a turn-off. Thanks for your opinion. - Bruno Pedro
Immediacy and audience participation are features that non-professional video offers with today's tools. Professional video can offer them but generally don't due to complexity. It's a tradeoff. By "non-professional", I'm not dissin' Robert; I'm simply describing traditional vs. non-traditional tools. - Kevin C. Tofel
Robert: I hear you -- you like this because it easier for you. That is fine for the production end. I am at the consuming end. As a consumer I would be happier if you pushed yourself to do these videos anyway and absorbed some of the friction. But this is not an argument that either of us will likely win (assuming winning is changing the other's opinion) so you will likely carry on... more... - Brian Sullivan
Kevin is right. Brian, in that case you'll want to only watch the videos we put up at ScobleizerTV, not FastCompanyLive or Qik or Kyte. Those are the ones we use $20,000 worth of equipment to make. Unfortunately I can only do three to five videos on that equipment a week, cause of Rocky's limitations in editing and producing said video. But it sure is high quality! By the way, I watch a lot of Qik video and I disagree that it is low quality. As long as I can hear what's going on, I'm happy. - Robert Scoble
Robert: I think there is a level between the $20000 worth of equipment ones and the live crappy throw away Qik ones that would compel me to watch. Saying Qik videos are not low quality can only be true if your quality standards are much lower than mine. Obviously if just hearing what is going on is good enough for you though that is true. Why shoot video at all if hearing what is going on is good enough? - Brian Sullivan
Brian: because the video often adds an important piece of information. I think the video is "good enough" for many many kinds of things. Especially talking heads. Again, the problem is that the friction of publishing is enough to keep me from turning on the camera on a whole range of experiences. Also, there are plenty of things that have gotten much better because of the live audiences. Interviews at Davos, for instance, were much better because of the interaction of the live audience. - Robert Scoble
For instance, we recorded Jonathan Adelstein on both Qik and our HDTV camcorders. Our HD videos will take another week or two to get up. But the Qik one is up already at http://qik.com/video/113607 and it's quite watchable. - Robert Scoble
Don't get me on to talking heads. In my industry I consider that use of video a total waste of effort, bandwidth and attention. This all comes back to your earlier statement though. "Frictionless" publishing makes it easier for you. But it makes it crappier and less useful to me. I would prefer that you absorb some of the friction in the making of these videos. - Brian Sullivan
Brian: there's only so many videos in one day I can do. I'm at my limit. You are getting what you are getting. :-) I already do quite a few "high quality" videos at http://www.fastcompany.tv and am happy you'll at least be enjoying those. As far as talking heads, interesting, that's where a lot of TV is nowadays. And, where else are you going to listen to an FCC commissioner talk? - Robert Scoble
Robert: As I said we are unlikely to change each other's minds on this subject so it is probably better if we both move to other subjects/posts ? - Brian Sullivan
Bruno Pedro: one advantage of your idea of making a 3G call is that you're independent of being able to run someone's software (like QIK, which doesn't run on blackberries, for instance): it the phone is 3G, then you have the functionality. Now, *that* rocks. I could see carriers entering into that business... - Marcos Marado
it needs to be higher quality before it catches on bigtime. - mjc
I didn't mean uStream from a phone, but from a laptop with a decent camera (like an old iSight that you can point behind the screen). At least for interviews, I mean. I'm also wondering, what do you do in situations where you have neither 3G nor WiFi? Do you continue shooting in high quality and damn the delay? Drop the quality? Shoot offline and upload? - Ivan from fftogo
Bruno: not an option for Scoble or anyone in the US. The only company doing any kind of cellular video call stuff is AT&T, but their technology is totally non-standard, and works on a really tiny selection of phones. It's not even video calling, it's "Video Sharing" (which is what Scoble does anyway ;). - Ivan from fftogo
Paul Thurrott
Leo reminds me of the street corner musician with the mutliple instruments strapped on at the same time: guitar in hand, harmonica wired around the neck and in the mouth, symbols strapped to the inside of the knees and foot pedal pounding a drum. A real one-man show. - Al Degutis from twhirl
Paul, I was just listening to your last podcast and you were wanting a multi-platform chat client that does tweets. Check out www.digsby.com. It has all of the major chat protocols in it as well as twitter, gmail and facebook integration. - Kyle
Dave Winer
A reporter asks McCain how much a gallon of gas costs. He doesn't know. "I don't see how it matters," he says. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-k...
He's right. HE doesn't see how it matters. - Khürt Williams from twhirl
yea it sorta matters! I can't believe how outa touch McCain is..yikes! - Susan Beebe
Does Obama know? He still thinks we have 57 states. - Michael Tefft
Michael, that doesn't work anymore -- you can't turn this around. I usually don't go for these gotcha questions, but the price of gas is a huge issue, it hits everyone. I remember very well the first time I paid more than $4 a gallon for gas, and I'm finanically well off, I can't imagine what it must be like for people who are just getting by (I've definitely been there myself, many times). You can be sure that if Obama didn't know before he does now. - Dave Winer
The guy is lazy. What, he doesn't ever look out the window of the Straight Talk Express. The price of gas is advertised everywhere. I could understand not knowing the cost of a gallon of milk (though he should be up to date on that too). Presidents have to keep a lot of information in their head, it's a complex world. It says a lot that he can't be bothered to understand the most basic thing about the people he's trying to sell. In some sense we're defined by this today. - Dave Winer
This reminds me of when George Bush, Sr., visited a supermarket and didn't quite get the concept of scanning product bar codes. I fear that too many politicians are so out of touch with the realities of life for normal citizens that their judgment is warped. We must always be wary of people so thirsty for power that they forget the realities of life. - Mark Dixon from twhirl
Aren't there enough things to attack McCain on without distorting the facts? The question put to McCain was "When was the last time you pumped your own gas and how much did it cost?" McCain's response was "Oh, I don't remember. Now there's Secret Service protection. But I've done it for many, many years. I don't recall and frankly, I don't see how it matters." Not remembering what the price was the last time he bought his own isn't the same thing as not knowing what the price is now, is it? - Ken Sheppardson
Note I'm an Aussie - and prefer OB to JM, so be kind. But I also prefer fact to spin. In this case it looks like it depends on how the question and answer were interpreted. McCain was asked when he last pumped gas and the cost - he said he couldn't remember and didn't see how it mattered - that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't think the price matters, it just means he only answered the first half of the question - about when he pumped gas. Easy trap for someone to fall into. - Craig Thomler
No Dave, I am just tired of you and your friends always taking cheap shots at McCain and Bush and NEVER having anything bad to say about Obama.. And you can't seriously infer from that question, even if the source is telling the truth, that McCain is not aware of how the price of gas is affecting people. Give me a break. - Michael Tefft
Candidates are under tons of pressure to come up with answers to some pretty arcane questions (Sunni/Shia, names of world leaders, etc.), and I am sympathetic. But this is their chosen profession -- both the governing AND the campaigning. If they are not able to answer these questions, then they are not getting their jobs done to satisfaction. Period. I live and work in China, and I am... more... - sage brennan from twhirl
The question was not "What is the price of gas?" It was "What was the price of gas the last time you pumped it?" It's not the same thing. You and I remember the price of gas, because we filled up within the last week. Do you remember how much you paid for gas six months ago? Quick... without looking it up! - Kenneth LeFebvre
(Oh, and I absolutely don't like McCain, either, so I'm not particularly looking for any reason to defend him... :) and I do think a good politician could have answered that one much better than he did.) - Kenneth LeFebvre
Dittos @Michael Tefft - Craig Eddy
Michael, it's okay to feel that way, but you're wrong to direct your anger at me and my "friends." Do you think a football coach ever goes into the halftime locker room after a losing half and blames the other team's fans? He wouldn't have a job much longer. He'd probably be fired by the third quarter. :-) - Dave Winer
Kenneth, I thought that at first too, but I actually read the interview and he did get asked the price of gas. - Dave Winer
And to answer your question, I don't remember the price of gas six months ago. But the question was what's the price of gas TODAY. That, I know. It gives me a stomach ache. It makes me feel we're headed into the crapper as a country, that we're not at all ready for what's ahead. But I know what the price is cause I pump it into my car. - Dave Winer
Yea. I am going to agree that this question/answer does not really equate to whether or not he knows that gas costs 4.00. It does however show that he is out of touch with what Americans are doing each day. The next time the SS is fueling up his car, McCain should get off the phone and pay attention to the people and the pump. - Sean Brady
I agree with Kenneth and Ken. It was a trick question. The question was what was the price of gas the last time you pumped it? McCain explained why he did not remember, since the secret service will not let him pump it. The question was not what is the price of gas now? If you have to distort and twist the meaning of questions and replies that is pretty sad. - Michael Tefft
Hey Dave, I know this is a bit of a cliche but why is there such an uproar over Gas prices in America? In Europe, particularly in Britain, we pay over 2.5 x as much as you do per gallon. Your gas is cheap, sir. - MarkFromIreland
You can overcome the cocoon in which the Secret Service surrounds you. I'm sure President Bill Clinton knew the price of a Big Mac... - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Shades of King George Bush the First at the grocery check out - Michael VanDervort
Dave, since you obviously have blinders on I will reprint the question." When was the last time you pumped your own gas and how much did it cost?" Where does it say what's the price of gas TODAY? McCain explained that he had not pumped gas in a while due to security measures so he did not remember what the price of gas was the last time he pumped it. Try reading the article again without your obvious political bias. - Michael Tefft
Mark, the big issue is the rate of increase in the price of gas (in US dollars, which is how we pay for it). Gas costs twice as much now as it did in early August 2005. In late August 2005, I was shocked to pay $2.60; yesterday, I was pleased to pay $4.41. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Does anybody have a link to the original column in the Orange County Register? I'd like to see the original before judging. - Leo Laporte
Hah! That's very clever. I didn't see that. But... The right answer, imho, is "I haven't pumped gas myself for a while since the Secret Service won't let me, but I do know that we're all paying over $4 a gallon today, and that's hurting a lot of people, now let me tell you what I plan to do about it..." followed by some pandering about a tax holiday. Anything else comes off as "Let them eat cake." - Dave Winer
That's simple... McCain is an idiot. He doesn't even know how to use a computer either! - Jeff McCord
Ontario Emperor: That's a good point actually, this surge in price has come to America over a couple of years. In Europe the high prices are the result of over a decade of gradual tax rises. Fair point. - MarkFromIreland
Oil is going to hit $209 per barrel by Q1/08- this is the future market predications. No amount of pondering can change this.wheeling and dealing that is going on. Oils is the base commodity for War Machinery..now go figure !! - Peter Dawson
This is a result of the 80's. We deregulated the oil industry and banking. Now we have refined products that are way over the top and a banking industry that is in deep stuff. One of the major arguments at that time was that if we deregulated those areas, we would have the problems we have now. The chances of getting them fixed now....Zero! - Dave Rutter
That's right Peter. The CEO of an airline or car company would know the price of oil and gas at the pump, all grades, probably up to the minute. In many ways these guys are speculating on the price of oil. Okay cut the Prez a little slack, maybe he only needs to know the price of oil at the weekly or monthly level. Not knowing it at all, that's incompetent beyond belief. - Dave Winer
Mark, sir, it's because our economy is (somewhat foolishly) built on the assumption of cheap oil. Even we were smart we'd still have a problem. Look at the distances. How much oil do you burn getting from SF to NY vs London to Paris? There's no comparison. We *need* cheap oil not just cause we're lazy and didn't prepare, but also because of geography. - Dave Winer
I buy gas once a week and I barely know how much it is where I pump, much less the nationwide average. That said, being such a huge issue he should probably know it off the top of his head so he doesn't seem out of touch. BTW, I am an Obama supporter but I don't think McCain is an idiot. And I don't think it matters than an 80 year-old man doesn't know how to use a computer. Know many smart 50 year-olds who just don't care to learn. - Adam
Leo, here's the full interview. http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2008... - Dave Winer
Sorry Dave that is not clever, that is how the question was asked and how McCain answered it. If the reporter wanted to know if McCain knew what the price of gas was today why didn't he simply ask him. No, instead he couched it in terms that could easily be mis-interpreted , as the reporter obviously hoped it would be. BTW, hindsight is 20/20 - Michael Tefft
He's clearly not an idiot. He does this kind of interview well. Much better than when you put him behind a podium. - Dave Winer
BTW, each thread in FF is kind of like a mini-Twitter. - Dave Winer
I wish we had your kind of problems in Germany, where we pay $3.50 per liter (about a quarter of a gallon). *sigh* - Alexander Kucera
So, let me ask: How much is a gallon of gas? - Mike Lewis
To the people that question why Dave is McCain bashing.... being from a rather Republican minded family I can tell you my inbox is flooded daily with anti Obama mail, most of which can be quickly disproved with a visit to snopes.com. Yet these email quotes always come up in our Bar-B-Q political debates. I find it refreshing to find some anti McCain stories which are at least TRUE, that I can forward on. Although the question was phrased badly I think Dave is correct with his answer above. - Kevin Shannon
He is 90 years old isn't he - Greg Goodwin
I just enjoy disagreeing with Dave. It is so much fun and very enlightening to read his responses. - Michael Tefft
Can we at least try to be fair? I mean if an Obama remark was distorted and misinterpreted like this, would you ever let it rest? - Ken Sheppardson
yesterday saw the car wash shell on divisadero has topped $5.08 for a gallon of premium... - Chris Heuer
Try this, just for fun: http://tinyurl.com/46xwg2 (it's obviously a couple of months old). - Dave Winer
it doesnt matter to him he has donors to pay for it - Fuad Arshad
Even though I am a Obama supporter, I hate it when the press twists individuals statements. I am sure McCain knows the current average price for a gallon of gas, you cannot run for president and be an idiot at the same time. - Kyle DeFacis
We are actually paying around $3.89 on average for regular. I feel sorry for the poor truckers who are paying way over $4.00 a gallon for diesel. Have you seen how high food prices have gotten in Hawaii? People are actually being priced off the islands. - Michael Tefft
Just one example of how detached the leadership of this country is, and not exclusive to any one party. But really sad for someone running to be president, his people should tell him every morning the state of a massive issue facing the nation. - Tom Carroll
It's discouraging that McCain doesn't know the price of gas. (Splitting hairs that McCain was referencing the last time he pumped it is a s t r e t c h.) But here's the real problem. This is one of the most important issues for voters, so as a candidate for POTUS, McCain and his campaign should know this question is coming, is important, and know it cold. It shows a general lack of understanding, planning, vision and strategy - and THAT's the problem. - AJ Kohn
first of all, the straight talk express is retarded, but thats another matter. secondly, i agree with the aussie, its not about being out of touch 'last time i pumped' really doesn't matter. the crux of the matter is that we've been drunk on cheap fuel for years and consume way beyond our means. cheney's insane 'conservation is a virtue' is doubly quaint... - tommy payne
Amazing.. and just sad - Dave Peck
AJ. But he plainly wasn't asked that question. The reporter obviously stated the question in an intentionally misleading way. I wonder how many politicians in DC know how much gas costs. Do you think they pump their own gas? This was a survey of one, a real useful gage of McCain's grasp of the issues. - Michael Tefft
Reading Comprehension FAIL... where's that new block feature so I'm not tempted to feed the trolls anymore? - David Knight
Just so Obamaniacs know how easy their guy has it in the media: http://obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/ - Phil Gomes
Hey David, what trolls are you referring too? Don't see any on this thread. - Michael Tefft
He said the same thing about computers, too. Sigh. - Robert Scoble
McCain's comment about not seeing that it matters, is just as bad as him not knowing the price. - Alex Hammer
I didn't see this earlier when I wrote my own post on McCain's comments. I think he knows the price of gas, or at least he knows that it's rising at a ridiculously high rate. That's not the outrageous part of what he said. The part that should piss every thinking voter off is that he doesn't have a clue as to what impact that has on normal people who have to deal with gas prices doubling in six months and the attendant price increases in other areas. Out of touch..that's the message. - Karoli
The problem comes in another, staggering set of government numbers. (Economists argue about the validity of using these numbers over long periods, but they capture the sorrow of the situation.) Get this, friends: from 1947 to about 1973 — from the days from the great Harry S. Truman to the great Richard M. Nixon — real hourly pay for nongovernment workers rose by about 40 percent. The... more... - Will DeLuca
Wasn't McCain asked when he last filled up as opposed to the current price? Is it news to us that celebrities don't deal with day-to-day stuff the same way we do. I don't like it, but it's reality. He probably also doesn't cook for himself, pick out his own clothes or apply his own stage make-up. We don't orient campaigns to do-it-yourselfers. - tim
Jason Calacanis
If you want me to subscribe to you please respond to this comment.
seriously, just respond to this message and I'll follow you... looking for all my peeps on FF! - Jason Calacanis
ok lets check how fast he takes to respond ! - Peter Dawson
Jason: That's a good idea. FF isn't really very interesting until there's a bunch of content in your stream. - Eric Florenzano
It would be great. :) - Daniel Schildt
sure, thnx - maxim shevertalov from twhirl
But hey, you are already following me! Just checked. :D - Daniel Schildt
I believe you're already subscribed to me, but now you can be double-secret-subscribed... - Rob Clark
Thanks - Tom Landini
I can use some FF street cred. :) - James
I love Mahalo! :) - AJ Batac
ok that was quick response ..like approx 75sec :)- - Peter Dawson
*poof* - Scott A. Swiecki
Subscribe me up Jason. I am in LA and in post production. You guys at Mahalo looking for staff. - Ryan Cates
Thanks....Mahalo! - Chris Rossini
You da man Jason, PS love Mahalo! - Greg Goodwin
count me in - Kieran
do you follow canadians ? - johnpiercy
Thanks, Jason.... - Hugh MacLeod
I'm not sure if you're following me on Twitter, FriendFeed, etc. but I'm ahynes1 on all of them. - Aldon Hynes
Yes sir, whatever you say sir! @astrout - Aaron Strout
I'm in - Mike Doeff
Yo! - Pascal Sijen
Jason! Still loving your Dash? - Chris Kuhner
a oh - oh a - Anthony Farrior
I'm wondering if the "calacanis effect" will move a critical mass of people from Twitter to FriendFeed - Daniel Robitaille
Hi. You know me, I'm PurpleCar! - Christine Cavalier
Present. - Mykl Roventine
subscribe away. - Mel Francis
Hey jason - can follow me as graubart - Barry Graubart
Blammo, or perhaps Skidoosh! - Dan Parsons
Great seeing you at PDF. Look forward to hanging this summer in Cali. Cheers. - Stephanie Agresta
Hello Jason - Rutger Blom
I'm in - Adamo Lanna
The Twitter train is leaving the station. - Warner Crocker
i'm in! - wlai
And this is why I don't like FriendFeed. Have to rebuild your list? what the fuck. - Austin Brown
ok just a few thousand more to go! - Deva Hazarika
Yep... follow me :) - Fabrice Epelboin
Isn't there a better way to do this? - Toivo Lainevool
Moving on over.... - Mark Nassal
You should call up the people at friend feed and have them move your twitter list over for you. I mean, don't they know who you are? - MrBobDobolina
I'm here too now but where is the iPhone client - Zack
Hola! fatoracle on twitter :) - Kamath (नमः)
I could you some more Mahalo in my life :) - Chris Suspect
I have only been using FriendFeed for a day but im liking it already. - pcnerd37
Fascinating. - Ken Sheppardson
Jason follow me as 7thScreen Rod Pitman - Rod Pitman
I'm finally trying to accept FriendFeed into my life. Does that mean I'm born again? - Mark Wilson
Yo Yo Yo - Eric_T
mahalo - Eric Doerr
well, when you ask so nice :-) - Alexander Kucera
Ok, trying FF as well. Still like twitter and will be sad if I have to leave it - Lide Winburn
Like Napoleon's army after the defeat in Moscow, straggling west, fleeing the hideous frozen hell, we are moving into the (for me, at least) unknown... - Dave LaFontaine
Hey there Jason, hows i going? - Daniel Spisak from twhirl
hey man, I'm a big fan, would be honored by a follow ;-) - Scott Breakall
So I'm Commenting... - Jeff Rochlin
http://internetducttape.com/2008... this is the app subscribing on FF to the people you follow on twitter - Christian Anderson
Sounds fair to me but at some point there has to be an easier way. - Philip Ferris
put me up in there - Vincent Guerrero
Yo - Edward
Sure, why not. - wrecks
Follow me pleae - Cody Heitschmidt
following - MK Gold
Mahalo is awesome! - Mark Salinas
Hello from Canada! - Robb M.
+1 Ed Nicholson - Ed Nicholson
OK. Mahalo! - phil baumann
Sounds like fun! - Eddie King
Sounds good to me! - Oracio
transporting from twitter - Nina Walia
Twitter yesterday, Friendfeed for today, what's up for tomorrow? - Angela Wickenberg
Interesting approach... - Tim FitzGerald
hola! senor! :+} - Aronado
interesting way to go about it - but here you go. - Zee.
For sure. By the way, thanks for the towel! - E.J. Alcantara
Hi Jason! - Mike McCallister
Why not..... - Brad Collins from twhirl
I thought I could hang w/ Twitter being so flakey but it's really a bugger. Maybe FF is the deal after all. - Hunter Hillegas
peeps - either a web2 startup or a reality game show - Phil Wolff
keeping up with the web 2.0 wave - Mike G
Lets talk. - Grant Bell
If FriendFeed is the new Twitter, what is the new FriendFeed? - Adam Hansen
not sure if I am ready to abandon twitter, but I will give friendfeed a shot. Count me in - Joe Schmidt
Please...follow me. - Owen O'Malley
If it helps you stay ahead of Dvorak. . . - Dean Barnett
Yet another comment from a Twitter follower - Tom
I'm in - Mark Krynsky
meee toooo!!!!!!!!!11 - Olubi Ezra
me three! - Handy Lukman
Hello! - Courtney White
Make it so - Bill Koslosky
This is destined to be one of the busiest posts for days to come! - Joel Ordesky
Bam! - Jim Dye
Happy Saturday. - David Young
oh sorry...I commented on the wrong post - Nathan Manley
FF really needs an import feature - Steven Cains
Yeah :) - Delete Me
Much obliged Sir. - Pedro Fonseca
Sure, I'd love for you to follow me. Thanks! - ComicList
yup, ok. - Bryan Landers
thx. Guess twitter effed up one too many times, eh? - Zach
You don't have to if you don't want to, but hi. - Erin
Rebuilding the Jason Nation on FF. Fascinating. - Slobokan
Would welcome it - Dave Kurns
Game on! - Little Guy
Thanks Jason, tweet on! - JoLynn Braley
you follow me on twitter. so you can follow me here if ya want, too. I'm trying to do the same. - Lise
Me too! Thanks Jason ;) - Darren Lee
there should be an easier way to do this - Jon Pederson
love following the J-Dawg! - Brad Williams
Follow ME! - Austin Hamilton
Follow please :) - Jeff Gordon
Yo, Jason, thanks for the Mahalo Beach Towel..my boys love it! :) - Anthony Bossuyt
Sir yes sir! - Matt Samuels from twhirl
Welcome to FriendFeed Jason - Jeff Hoard
Anyone for Tea? - FunkydoryStokie
It seems to me this is kind of a moot point. You draw those who follow you into your convesation and if someone makes a comment that continually intriques you all you have to do is simply subscribe to their ff. No need to wage a big dick contest with numbers of followers here. Its all about the conversation. Just an observation at this point.. I'm just now starting the migration from twitter to FF myself;-) - Curtis "Billy" Cross from twhirl
Just subscribed to you, feel free to follow back! - KyleM
Great to meet you at PdF2008 - David Price
Yo, Jason - Brad Barrish
This page is gonna get long if all 20K+ comment :) - MissM
Yes, please - Jim Milles
I think spammers have infiltrated Twitter and will not let me block them completely. - Derek
I'm all for moving as many over to FF as I can, so yeah, follow me if you'd like. - Lee Adkins
wow is this a complete switch from Twitter? - Jarrad McInnes
Wow! Now you know what you'll be doing the rest of the weekend.... - Kevin Shannon
Okie, Dokie, subscribe away :) - Michael Lehman
is Fondue on friendfeed yet? - Benton
glad to hear it. - berkay
Aloha and mahalo... MsInformation from twitter here. - Donna Mugavero
howdy - Nicholas
Hello. - Jason
hey - Adrian Bye
Sure, why not? - Andrew Feinberg
I am in for it. - Michael Tefft
Follow me - Faust Gertz
w00p w00p :) - Toby Weston
Okey-doke - Peggy Gartin
Indeed twee on! - Justin Yost
ok, me too :-) - marc uhlig
Follow the yellow brick road! - Linda Wishman
I'm moving my stuff to FriendFeed as well. Let's see how this is. - Kyle Johnson
Over here! Over here! - Ian Schafer
Raises hand! Here! - Melissa
here I am - Borriz
Hey Jason - follow me up. - Gareth Jenkins
Excellent job with Veronica Belmont's replacement and all the Mahalo episodes leading up to it. Mahalo Daily. FTW! :) - Mustafa K. Isik
Yes sir, can I have another? - Greg Schwartz
So many comments! This would have broken twitter... - Stephen Breen
Jason - love to get you as a subscriber. - Hutch Carpenter
Yup. - Karl Sackett
sure, I'm in. - todd lucier
Just starting with ff - I'm off now to find Leo . . . - Michael
I'd appreciate it. - Patrick Moore
Interested to see what you think of Ramsay's food, mostly hear about the man.. - Paul
Holla from New Orleans! Moving from Twitter as well. Whatever happened to Jaiku? - Gregory Schultz
Sign me up! - Chris Johnson
Follow me. Mahalo Power!!!!!!!! - Grant
Sounds good! - Jeremy Tymes
why not? - Ed Ryan
adding myself to the list. - Kevin Cearns
Count me in, but I like Twitter better, even though its broken... - Trae Ruge
OK - Larry Heim
Sure, why knot? - ThePicMan
Can ALWAYS use more FriendFeed folowers! Still like SocialThing and Twitter best though! - Jeff Garlick
What's the worst that could happen? Sign me up :) - Joel Rickenbach
I enjoy following your tweets and would love for you to follow mine as well - ken bavier
so when you gonna be on twit again? - Prk60091
Aren't all Mahalo members worth following? :) - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Raising hand tentatively - Dan Sleezer
Follow me please! Have fun at dinner tonight! - Benjamin "Zeus" Heide
Response Generated. I think i'm going to follow your lead on abstaining from Twitter/pownce so I can get into FriendFeed properly. - Tom Cheredar
Ke aloha nô me ka mahalo kâua! - Todd Libby
Always loved your work. Keep it up and thanks for the follow. - Chris Rodgers
Interesting idea, count me in! - Daniel Rowley
Follow me! Follow me! Ooo! Ooo! Ooo! - Mitch Wagner
Hi there ! - sergiooo
Follow! - Mr. Wiggly
Follow please! - Micah Maziar
I'm there! - Herb Myers
in! - Morgan
As amazing as it is, you already follow me. But feel free to unsubscribe, it will not remove what is interesting in YOUR feeds ;-) - Myriam
Mahalo's "Guide Note" and "Fast Facts" are reason enough do the research here - Rick
follow me - Kevin Doohan
I'm caught up in the technology...another "me too" - Bryan Waters
oh...okay - Carolyn
Ummm....errr...hmmm. Follow me - Greg
add me when you get a minute - Daniel Ehrlich
hey - Emad
sure! add the feed from a Brazilian perspective... - José Murilo Junior
Boo ... - Cathy Brooks
I will attempt the same but without the response I"m sure - Stuart Froman
sounds good - Arvind Raman
Friendfeeding from Japan... - Brian
sure add me, love the week try your doing - David
You should be following me anyway since I'm all up in your site manipulatin' yur dataz.. - Tim Moore
this way - Michael Chin
Easy enough. - Doug Smith
done - Eric Haber
In the house - mutual followship requested. :) - ijalob.
Here I am - Martin Gordon
good idea - Graham English
Well, here we go ! - Atul Karmarkar
As we say in the South, come on in y'all! - Allen Fuller
Thanks! - Todd Wickersty from twhirl
ping! - Ricardo Vidal
What's up Jason - Matt
Please what ever you do don't follow me...i'm way too popular to have another tech industry millionaire following me. - Sean Montgomery
Better late than never. Now I am on FF only have to work out how it works... Thanks for the tip - Paul Greeve
Are you going to rebuild the entire nearly 30k ish over here? That would be insane. - Lucretia Pruitt
Im In - Comptr
Follow please :) - Peter Dawson
Hi Jason, thanks in advance for the follow. - Larry Kless
Yes please - it is a challenge how to parallelize your twitter connections on FriendFeed. They really need a good import interface with automatic notifications via DM back to twitter followers. - Jed White
Yo, follow me please! Thanks. - Todd Jordan
Do I get a large coke with that follow? - Elias Bizannes
why not... you might like it :) - Allison
me too - Ashish Tonse
Am I too late? - Winston Teo
interesting posts, would like to hear more of your podcasts - Brian Staker
and me ... - Diana
Hey Jason; I'm in! Got so fed up with Twitter not working, thought I'd follow your lead and go FF all the way. - Martin Betts from twhirl
hmm... i think you subscribed to me already when i first started this account months ago., - excalipoor
giving it a shot - eric Norlin
I'm up for it. - Ivan
I'm in - Peter Ghosh
I'm in. - Tim Kress-Spatz
check it. - Michael Leis
Word! - Will Boyd
pimp me, pimp you - Andrew Spencer
click me. i'm a whore - Nan San
Hi Jason, ok so does Foundue have a FF account yet? l like his Flickr pics!! ha, ha!! (BTW, I am @smbeebe on twitter) - Susan Beebe
Hi Jason, it will be nice not to have the Twitter out of service page, Gotcha in San Diego - Debra Oliver
m'kay. - AJ Kohn
Lets all make one big happy family :) - David W
That...is a lot of comments. But I'd like to join this ragtag crew. - Ben Parr
Dude this is the longest chain of answers I've seen in FF. But I'm in :) - Alex Popescu
Does this mean twitter is dead? or did that happen a while ago? - Jed
howdy Jason! - Andrew from fftogo
Okie, here I am commenting... follow me, or something! - Vermyndax
Connecting. - William Meloney
You asked for it, Calacanis! - Mike Lewis
Some day we'll all have biological implants for social networking. And, this will be all so 2008! - Walter McNabb
Reciprocate :-) - David Peacock
Add me in - David Daniels
CalacanisNation on the move... - Pete Arden
Good luck, converting the entire list is difficult, So add me! - Jason Kintzler
At least this seems to work :-) ... please follow - pool101
Please add me to the list - Tom Carroll
just signed up for FF myself! - Mark Fusco
Hanging out at the bottom of the list - Dominik Hofmann
FriendFeed is about to take over - Miguel Carrasco
Great stuff Jason, fan of your work. It would be great to have a Twitter/FriendFeed contact sync application. I'm sure you know some peeps to make that happen. =D - Grahm Skee
Just discovered friendfeed. Pretty cool stuff. - George Gray
Thanks, Jason. - Joe Colacurcio
Just joined FF. I'm headed to Brentwood next week, any tips on restaurants? - Brian Blankenship
Hey Jason - Akshay Dodeja
Actually, you know what? I rescind. Please don't follow me. - Phil G
hello - isky
Sure, count me in. I quite rule! - Akiva Moskovitz
Sure Jason... shoot me a line, I'll be your friend - Dave Senior
Enjoying Friendfeed. Come join the party! - Mindy Koch
Checking in... - Chris Hileman
Count me in too! Thanks! - Michael Gianasi
For sure Jason :) - mark.kemperman
add me....... - Jeff Crace
post - russ nelson
add me in - Don Rogers
I just created my Friend Feed account. - Durwin
finally registered for friendfeed. it's awesome ~ - wilson
hi jason...friend me up! or friendfeed me up! - Laura
My hat there are a lot of comments here. - Paul Jacobson
Wow, I am late to this party but if its still going, I am in - Andy Breeding
Hi Jason, add me in! - Hilary Marsh
How much longer before other gaming strategies are invented to increase the value of your friendfeed persona? - Shakeel Mahate
Who *wouldnt* want to have JC following them? :) - Jeremy Toeman
Please do. - Robin Barooah
hope you are still fallowing this Jason - Gaspare
I'm on board - Mark Alves
one of the greatest things i ever did was make people think i didnt exist - Randy
Add me... Thanks... (Why are you doing this? I mean, really...) - Carlos Caridad Montero
This is actually quite interesting. I wish I had thought of this. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
hm. - Amund Tveit
Hey follow me. I rule. - Shawn Farner
add me toooooo - tarraguna
I would like a follow. Thanks - Sweyn Venderbush
sounds good to me. - Mark Chandler
Yes, please. - Morton Fox
whatever you say boss :) - Myke
i think the efficiency is lost in this method - Andrew Wise
freedfeed is - how they say - the bomb - Jeremy
I have you on mine, following me may or may not be boring :D - Renee Hendricks
following you on twitter and now on friendfeed - Robert Wheeler
Apple flipped Rogers Canada the proverbial middle finger. Hooray! - Steven Elliott
Thanks Jason, Go Mahalo!!! - Bobby Edwards
Social Network of the week? Why not? - Jay Savage
boop! - Sam Purtill
I'm in. - jered reynolds
Liking FF the more I play with it. - Todd
alrightee - James Joyner
Yooo hoooo.. ;-) Thanks Mr. Calacanis! - Da-Chief
Yes. - Russ Johnson
Count me in and you might like my webcomics - Joe Chiappetta
From Twitter to FF, here we go! - Catherine Juon
Ok I'll bite! - Sean Kelly
Hey Jason! Listen to me! :) - Simon Plashkes
I'll simply cite Rob Clark, who so eloquently put it: "I believe you're already subscribed to me, but now you can be double-secret-subscribed..." ;-) - Carlos Granier-Phelps
Hi there. ;). - Ernesto
subscribe to me! - Wesley Barrow
Hey Jason how the Super Car going bud.... - John Spencer
OK, I am responding - Matt M Perez
Wow Matt, way to dig up an old post :) - Simon Wicks
Ok, here is a comment! - Alan Alpar
Dave Winer
A big lesson we should be learning from the Twitter experience: Putting all our eggs in one basket is a bad idea. Twitter has too much power and it's just a corporation, with limited abilities and lots of interests that aren't aligned with those of users. The web is not like that. More in comments..
What Twitter gave us is wonderful, but we should strive to re-create the experience outside, in the wilds of the web, where no one but the government controls what we do (that's bad enough). I see a lot of people rushing to FriendFeed to replace Twitter, I find myself wanting to do it too, but it has the same danger. It's not just about keeping the servers up. Centralization is inherently dangerous. Not saying we should do anything other than think and keep our eyes and ears open. - Dave Winer
You can say limited abilities again. - Andrew
as someone who's twitter account is currently entirely broke, and feels like she's been put on mute, I'd have to agree. - Erin @queenofspain
I don't get why people put all of their messages into one service. I have most of my Tweets linked up through ping.fm that posts them to multiple services, not just twitter - Tyler (Chacha) from twhirl
chacha it's a time issue for me. twitter was the fastest and easiest. was looking at others, but didn't have the time, like a real early adopter might, to get into a bunch of other things. - Erin @queenofspain
I agree. its annoying when you know about all these services, or might not know, and then if you don't have enough time to figure out if it is a waste of time or soemthing acctually useful, kind of just stops you from trying the beta stuff. - Tyler (Chacha) from twhirl
Erin, I think you're missing a bit of Chacha's point. While it's true that keeping up with every new service is difficult/impossible, Chacha was speaking more to the fact that services like ping.fm allow you to "spread your bets", so to speak. If you post at a site that posts to other sites for you, you can focus on the site you like, but still have a presence at others. That way, if you have to switch, you're not completely starting from scratch. There's still network disruption, but it's lessened. - Ken Kennedy
Dave, "Centralization is inherently dangerous." tell that to the honey bee !! But seriously its not bad, if all users in utopia mode :)-. I believe that the expectations of society in and by itself needs to change. The greed for materials and money is the shortcoming of humanity. As you walk thru The Corridors of Time o you will certainly see that humanity comes together and then breaks down b'coz of ego and greed. Technology hives are no different. I agree, FF, Jaiku, Pownce all have the same dilemma !! - Peter Dawson
I wonder whether it is not possible to establish an open format for microblogging and especially commenting. Subscription and specialized search engines should be enough to follow conversations. is that too naive? - Heinz Wittenbrink from twhirl
centralization is very bad. Vote Republican... we aren't for the single government corporation. Put your vote where your mouth is and don't support the brown shirt Palestine supporting National Socialists. - Noah David Simon
if you think internet tyranny is bad for your comments... just wait for the reality tyranny to come knocking on your door. It is called Obama and it smacks of internationalist tyranny. - Noah David Simon
Here is the funny part. All the Comments in Friend Feed are all in a Single Basket. I like the fact that FriendFeed Aggregates all of your content so that the acctually sharing is decentralized (You have a list of your shared stuff on Google Reader and Delicious, etc) But all of the comments you post up are completely on FriendFeed. Is that going to be the next step? Maybe allow all of your comments to be hosted on your blog and then aggregated? - Tyler (Chacha) from twhirl
If we allow "the government" to control what we (or corporations) do, there will never be a "bigger and better" version of Twitter. - Craig Eddy
I'm sorry, but this is crap. One poorly designed application architecture isn't a call for large-scale revolt. Blah, blah, blah. I'm so beyond tired of the whining and bellyaching. If you have a better idea, then build it. If not, then quit complaining about it. It doesn't accomplish a thing to sit and bitch. - Cyndy
Twitter down doesn't bother me much since I only use Twitter a few times per day, and I use it for different reasons and with a subset of people that don't -- and I suspect won't -- use FriendFeed. So, my messages are strung across services: friends from high school use MySpace; friends from university use Facebook; friends from India use Orkut; other friends use Twitter; strangers I talk to use FriendFeed; etc. That's why I scoff at the "email is dead" notions -- email doesn't feel fragmented to me. - Kirk Kittell
Yeah, his brand of "IT" = "Internationalist Tyranny". Got that right. - William, CPU Media
Well this really isn't a big revolt. It a bunch of people coming to realise that keeping all of your content in a single area prone to crashes is really a bad idea. - Tyler (Chacha) from twhirl
Chache -- that's exactly what I'm saying. - Dave Winer
I wish I could string those services together... - Kirk Kittell
@Kirk I doubt email will ever really be dead. Kind of like Postal Mail Today. Its the backbone communication system that you know is almost always reliable, aand for the most part private - Tyler (Chacha) from twhirl
BTW, since you use twhirl, I'd like to point out another way we can get safer. If our clients create an archive of everything you do, but not on Twitter or FriendFeed, that's a good way to: 1. Recover if the system you're using fails and 2. Encourage the development of parallel systems to do innovative stuff with our tweets and FFs, etc. If you think it's a good idea -- send Loic a message. He likes video messages, I hear. :-) - Dave Winer
My last comment is a big one guys. If we can get users to ask Loic for this feature, I promise -- developers will be able to do cool stuff with it, and not just guys who can keep huge honkin servers running. You'll see an explosion of new creativity. - Dave Winer
I'm always amazed when I read comments like this. Twitter is a free web service that no one forces you to use. The original premise was "What are you doing ?" so it was just a bit of fun. If you base your business/web presence/your indentity on Twitter then you are in trouble. A decently hosted website and email are the most important things for your activity on the web. - Paul Nash
I hear ya Ken. I guess what I'm saying is I didn't know about Ping or others until well...now. - Erin @queenofspain
"A decently hosted website and email are the most important things for your activity on the web." Yup. And make sure you have an office with a pretty receptionist. And take out some ads in the Yellow Pages and the local TV stations, too. And hang a shingle. ;-) - Josh Bancroft
Dave has an important point regarding archiving (no matter how you define it). Tweets and FF shares and comments now contain interesting info and pointers to more of the same. So keeping a record of these could be important. - Bill Anderson from twhirl
"so keeping a record of these could be important. " - yeah google knows everything :)- - Peter Dawson
I agree on the concept, definitely. Jon Udell has been evangelizing these concepts as well for awhile; a good overview here, called "Hosted Lifebits": http://blog.jonudell.net/2007... - Ken Kennedy
@Paul Nash I understand your point but i still disagree. web 1.0 was about one person on an island sending out bottles via email lists. Web 2.0 is about a NET of networks intertwined and dependent on each other for communication. p2p is the backbone for today's successful technology and even though twitter is centralized, it also plays a huge part in a how to business model. the discussion here is amongst content publishers and we need twitter or something like it to function properly, imho - Anthony Farrior
I'm not sure there was some huge downside to embracing Twitter. The conversation has moved to FF almost instantly given their reply problem over the past week. It seems to me that the zero switching cost of the interwebs is in full effect here. - Jason Calacanis
Hey so what the hell? Peer to Peer twitter. let's code. - bugtank@gmail.com
Steve Gillmor
friendfeed is getting very close to being usable
Just needs an edible crow feature first. - Mark Trapp
heh. - Thomas Hawk
I'm sure some can jscript that up for him ;) - Michael W. May from twhirl
I hear jerked crow is good. Notice how this was worded that FriendFeed changed something. - Bwana ☠
oooh looks who's taking in the FriendFeed koolaid now :*) - Susan Beebe
totally - loren feldman
twitter must be freaking you out to say such words - Dobromir Hadzhiev
I knew this day was coming. Though its come about 2 months earlier than expected - Jamie
I said it before, the longer IM/Track is down, the easier it is to forget why you loved it. - Bwana ☠
Just needs a bloody mobile interface! - Prolific Programmer
Hmm... Maybe I should check this FriendFeed out since it's almost usable. Oh, wait a second... - Kevin C. Tofel
Friendfeed in Twhirl is still far from usable for me Steve - The way it keeps popping up items with new comments is annoying - pure flow is much, much better - Chris Saad from twhirl
Possibly, Steve meant that as the number of users grow, the service becomes more usable. - Dan Sleezer
I wonder how long it will take for Steven to use the GillmorGang room http://friendfeed.com/rooms... here on FriendFeed? - Susan Beebe
@Dan he can spin it that way, sure ;) - Michael W. May from twhirl
"FriendFeed is a parasite service built on the back of Twitter. Let’s get this straight. No Twitter, no FriendFeed. Want to kill FriendFeed, as I certainly do? Cut off its oxygen. Take a page from Facebook’s incompetent UnFriend Connect gambit and refuse to pass Twitter posts through non-compliant ex-Google engineering scams." Steve Gillmor, May 24, 2008. - Thomas Hawk
wow, what a quote...thanks for sharing Thomas! ouch - Susan Beebe
yeah its growing on me as well - Fred Grott
Even though it is about two comments up, I'd like to reiterate the point made by Thomas Hawk: "FriendFeed is a parasite service built on the back of Twitter. Let’s get this straight. No Twitter, no FriendFeed. Want to kill FriendFeed, as I certainly do? Cut off its oxygen. Take a page from Facebook’s incompetent UnFriend Connect gambit and refuse to pass Twitter posts through non-compliant ex-Google engineering scams." Steve Gillmor, May 24, 2008. - Dan Kaplan
Thomas Hawk might be wrong see FF share butttn at top of FF page..ever use it? - Fred Grott
Richard: I only reposted for comedic effect, like those moments on the Daily Show when they cut between a politician saying something that totally contradicts something they said in the past and then do it again - Dan Kaplan
I hid twitter updates for a few days. Didn't miss a whole lot. - Kevin L
Dan, I was quoting Steve, not expressing my own thoughts on FF. Richard. This is not something Gillmor said "months" ago, it's something that he wrote 34 days ago. - Thomas Hawk
FF works fine for me, every day. And it's better than Twitter or Plurk. FF is an aggregator, not a parasite. - Bill Sodeman from fftogo
In fact I might hide it again, just because it is mostly just @ replies and links to content that is already on friendfeed. Wish there was a better way to filter, perhaps by minimum number of comments/likes, or an intelligent filter that knows when something is a duplicate. - Kevin L
See, you have 33 replies on FF, isn't it more engaging?! - Shivanand Velmurugan
Like Peanut butter on lettuce, during the Weimar Republic - Duncan Riley
@ Scott some of us find him an interesting voice to listen to. - Jamie
@Thomas Hawk: Ha. 34 days is the new 34 weeks. You didnt know that? - ※Fu※
give in to the dark side gillmor - Tyler Gillies
Gillmor speaks truth. - Vezquex: God of FF
Alexander van Elsas
Typical. Mozilla tries to set a world record helping ALL of us have a choice when it comes down to the web browser. And when they hare having trouble keeping up the pace the Elite screams "FAIL"? I don't think the elite appreciates enough what Mozilla has brought us! I say Firefox is the best!!!!!!!
I didn't scream FAIL. I just said it was down. Anyway, if you're going to have a contest and you can't keep up with the load that's both good (contest is going well) and notable (cause you didn't have enough server capacity or whatever to keep it all up). - Robert Scoble
think about a world without Mozilla Firefox. Think about a world dominated by Internet Explorer. Think about closed instead of open. Who are we to judge them right now? They are doing a hell lot of more to make the Internet a better place than all these loudmouths out here! - Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: the loudmouths bring hype. Hype brings new users. It's all good. - Robert Scoble
Well I wasn't referring to you Robert ;-) But it is so typical. I love the browser and the dudes that are creating it together. If there isn't enough server capacity I can only hope it is because no one has ever even remotely tried to create such a shitload of downloads ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Well said. - Russellreno
That's true Robert. - Alexander van Elsas
It's really easy to judge from the sideline, while at the same time MG Siegler and a few more are HAPPILY running their FF browser every day, thanking god and anyone else on their knees they don't have to use IE. I love choice, and choice is what Mozilla has brought us - Alexander van Elsas
well said, this wasn't planned well, but this is nothing like creating such a great web browser. - Hassan Ibraheem
I don't understand why nobody has put FF3 Release up on Bittorrent somewhere. I guess cuz it would affect the world record. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'd like to think of a world where people think in terms of "usability" and "meets demand" than terms like "free" or "open." If I can't save the world, princess, cheerleader, and the internet from the evil clutches of Lex Luthor, Ganon, Sylar, and Microsoft because I can't download your stupid software (you know the one you keep telling me is better than sliced bread?), it's not my fault, it's yours. Make your stuff work (that includes your delivery mechanism), then worry about saving us from evil. - Mark Trapp
@Alexander - completely agree that FF3 is the best browser out there - but if somebody tries to very publicly break a world record and their infrastructure can't handle it - then that's newsworthy (at least in our small tech world) - FAIL is just the meme of the day to go with it - Frederic
What's ironic Mark, is that Microsoft would be able to handle day 1 downloads better than this. People are quick to defend what they like, even if what they like is failing. :) The truth hurts. - Bwana ☠
I'm thinking there is a whole army of volunteers trying to to their best, while we sit back and have a laugh. Sorry guys, I'm not with you on this one. Sure they "might" have done a better job. But it is their world record attitude that got us Firefox. We should appreciate that a bit more. - Alexander van Elsas
In the same breath we're calling fail, we're advocating and spreading the word to go get it. It's not as black and white as you may think. - Bwana ☠
too bad that the enthusiasm and massive numbers that a call to download a piece of software couldn't be directed to a continued pressure on some *real* social issues .. you know those things that social media claims to care about .. but I guess software is more important. - Steven Hodson
Mozilla isn't some small, poor open source project, it's a very wealthy company with an army of employees. If Mozilla blew Firefox 1's download day, I wouldn't have criticized them. Today they are a big company, making more profits than most Silicon Valley-startups combined. One can expect more professionality than that. So yes, we know where we would be without Firefox, but that's no excuse for poor management. (I expect high uptime from Google, too, even though the world would be worse without them.) - sebmos
I happily scream FAIL. i'm forgiving to startups, but if a company like mozilla purposefully sets out to have everyone download their software at the same exact time to get a record that doesn't exists and its crashes their servers, that is a FAIL. -- and for the record, I don't use FF everyday. I prefer Camino, also made by Mozilla. - MG Siegler
@Alexander van Elsas I don't think any of us fail to appreciate the value the that Firefox has brought the world. But look, they wanted to set a world record and they couldn't handle their own success. MG is pointing that out. I think you're seeing bogeymen where there are none. Also, FF has been nearly unusable on my Mac (and many other Macs) for years. Yeah, Camino, like what MG said. - Eric Eldon
Eric, we all know stories of athletes preparing years for the Olympic games only to fail during the trials, or even teh finals. Who are we to say FAIL. They know that already. All we can do is admire the incredible effort they put into it - Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, I'm a reporter so it's not my role to admire everyone who tries anything -- although I also think the human spirit is a great thing. My goal is to be honest with our readers about what's actually happening in the world. As we're also a blog, we include opinions. MG and I happen to be underwhelmed by Firefox's performance. I don't think we're doing anything wrong here by being critical. - Eric Eldon
Eric, being a reporter is fin, being critical as a reporter is fine too. I just happen to have a different opinion on this. I think Mozilla has done something no one has done before. They have successfully melted down their servers because so many people in the world want to have that browser (I hope so!). The execution might not be the best (who knows though how much traffic they are getting), but I like it ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. I'm happy for them, too, in that sense. - Eric Eldon
Paul Thurrott
It just keeps getting worse: My "you'll make history" email arrived from Mozilla... And it points to a Firefox 2 download. C'mon guys really
The link now works, but you still can't download.... - Keith Bennett
I finally got a download started ... this must be a world record in attempting to download :-) - Keith Bennett
Cee Bee
Firefox 3 Released! [Firefox 3] - http://feeds.gawker.com/~r...
Down With FireFox ! Viva internet Explorer - Farzad
that reminds me something, uhm twitter? - Eren Emre Kanal
so how are those extensions working out for the most part? i have a crap load of them that probably have yet to be updated in firefox 3. anyone run into difficulties? - Cee Bee
As long as the Google toolbar works (which it does) I'm good to go. BTW: Firefox 3 is incredible (big fan of the default settings, speed, and tabbing functionality) - Blake N. Cooper
I'm a big fan too and the best extensions already support Firefox 3, I had difficulties with the beta versions but they are almost gone - Stéphane Guérin
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