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laura "@pistachio" fitton posted a video on Seesmic

Not in the Berkshires anymore, Toto.

August 18 at 6:58 am - Link

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Jeremiah Owyang posted a message on Twitter

“The new Facebook features that were redesigned reminds me of Friendfeed features, agree or disagree?”

July 24 at 4:46 pm - Link

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Yes agree. Comments and threaded conversations. - wrecks

Agreed. Don't really see the point of having the ability to comment on every FB news feed item when you can post comments directly on most of the items (photos, posted items etc). - Alja Sulcic

Philip Robertson posted a message on Twitter

“@davidberkowitz One of the funniest pieces I've read for ages. Thanks mate. Made me laugh.”

July 16 at 2:35 pm - Link

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Philip Robertson posted a message on Twitter

“One more coffee than normal today = reduced productivity, lack of focus and a desk that looks like a storm passed over it. ADD?”

July 16 at 4:45 pm - Link

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Social Media: Alex Barredo posted a message

“Is ther any good books about social media? Would you recommend anyone?”

July 8 at 5:13 pm - Link

Glenn Batuyong, Sean Brady, Kevin D. White, Sharon Bray-McPherson and 2 other people liked this

Did anyone read Groundswell? http://www.amazon.com/Groundsw... - Alex Barredo

Now is Gone: by Geoff Livingston & The Cluetrain Manifesto are the two best books on the subject. - Tony

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Groundswell is excellent and highly recommended. Also you could read Clay Shirky's book Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing Without Organizations - Bert DuMars

IMHO, social media itself is the book about social media- not trying to be cute- but using it to learn about it is a good exercise. - Brian Carter

I also recommend "Now is Gone" and "Groundswell" - Jane Quigley via feedalizr

Don't Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate--The Essential Guide for Progressives (Paperback) http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Thi... - polymath22

"Secrets of Online Persuasion" by Deborah and John-Paul Micek. You'll find it at Amazon.com - Sharon Bray-McPherson

Another vote for Groundswell! - David Sim

Groundswell is good - HollowMarkeD

I have not read Groundswell and though it isn't considered a 'social media' book, read The Long Tail, if you haven't already. - David Weiner

Wisdom of the Crowds and The Tipping Point. - Muhammad Saleem

Wikinomics by Don Tapscott - Reem Abeidoh

Great suggestions. I had just downloaded the Groundswell sample for my Kindle yesterday. Based on these recommendations I will go ahead and buy it. I would second Wikinomics. - Sean Brady via twhirl

Social Media Bible by Lon Safko. It's coming out soon... - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl

Mark Wilson posted a message on Twitter

“Every now and then say, "What the fuck." "What the fuck" gives you freedom. Freedom brings opportunity. Opportunity makes your future.”

July 7 at 9:11 pm - Link

RAPatton, Karim, Scott Bauer, Eiwe Lingefors and 5 other people liked this

What the fuck? - edythe

what the fuck - Hao Chen

What the fuck? Fuck it. What the fuck. - Madsimian

What the fuck is this? - Matt Donders

Nande kuso? (as close as I could get) - MiniMage

Not in North Carolina - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0... - Victor Ryden

l0ckergn0me posted an entry on Chris Pirillo

How Do You Stay Organized on the Mac?

July 8 at 5:46 pm - Link

Jeff L., McFrugal, Stephen Collins, Jane Quigley and 2 other people liked this

WIth OmniFocus. - Andru Edwards

still trying to get organized - Jay Martinez via twhirl

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good questing, I'm not :( - Taiwan Brown

Google Notebook. I have access to things in all browsers (Flock Beta 2 FTW) on the all machines I use. - Charles Alden

Descriptive names and spotlight. I still try to keep things in logical folders... but at the end of the day, I open everything by searching first. (Evernote is a handy tool too). - Eric

clear my desktop as soon as i'm done with something be it reading, working on or downloading something. also, sticky windows, keeps me sane - Cee Bee

I'm a huge 37signals fan - I use Basecamp, Backpack and Highrise. - Jane Quigley via feedalizr

Evernote has become a key tool in my arsenal. - Al Degutis via twhirl

oh yeah, and keep as much stuff off my hard drive and online as possible. i'm big on the cloud thing - Cee Bee

MG Siegler posted an entry on VentureBeat

Is the road to Twitter search paved with Summize?

July 7 at 3:56 pm - Link

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Greg Verdino posted an entry on Greg Verdino's Marketing Blog

links for 2008-07-07

July 7 at 4:30 pm - Link

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Philip Campbell dugg a story on Digg

FAIL. SHIT. [PIC]

July 7 at 3:03 pm - Link

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Marshall Kirkpatrick posted a message on Twitter

“forgetting to eat lunch again. oops. that always totally screws up my productivity :(”

July 7 at 2:42 pm - Link

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that's what happens to me damn near every day. also :( - Eric Eldon

Blogger rule #4 in my personal list of rules: create a daily lunch event with reminder in Google Calendar. At 120 pounds, I can't afford to miss that appointment. - Kevin C. Tofel

Robert Scoble posted a link

Why is there a dollar bill taped to the floor at FriendFeed's headquarters? (I was there today to pick up some stickers for our lunch tomorrow in Seattle). See...

July 7 at 2:07 pm - Link

Guy, Bec, James Hull, Norman Hammer and 24 other people liked this

Very clever - George The Writer

That's really cool - Will Hirsbrunner

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lol! - Shivanand Velmurugan via twhirl

Until they get so used to seeing the dollar that they don't look anymore and then trip on conduit..... ;P - Jeff P. Henderson

What are you going to be in Seattle for? Is it an open lunch? - John OBrien

Robert, just curious... why post a duplicate link when there's already a conversation in the published flickr photo thread? http://friendfeed.com/e/64c033... - Alan Le

Thanks for getting the stickers! - Erica Toelle

Alan: when I posted this there wasn't a conversation there. They both took off at the same time. - Robert Scoble

When people get used to seeing the dollar bill, they'll have to upgrade to a $5 bill. This could get expensive! - Morton Fox

What lunch tomorrow? Can anyone go? - Ryan Stewart

Ryan: you really need to subscribe to my Upcoming.org page: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user... It's the FriendFeed lunch and, yes, anyone can go. - Robert Scoble

Wipeout (a Chevy's sister restaurant) has $5 bills stuck to the floors underneath the bar stools, so you can laugh at all the drunks trying to scrape them up. ;) - Kevin Hessel

We could use this technique at our offices. We're in some old historical mill buildings in Manchester, NH...lots of uneven floors. - Sonciary Honnoll

Jeeeze, I guess so. Subscribed. - Ryan Stewart

I thought this said "Why is a three dollar bill taped to the floor..." and thought Robert was making homophobic insinuations about the FF team. - Dan MacTough via Alert Thingy

Total revenue to date? - Geoff

@Sonciary Honnoll the office would need to set up a new budget, floor tripping budget maybe? - Chris Harris

Chris - Good thinking, I can prove my point by 'Flipcaming' the serial office trippers. :) - Sonciary Honnoll

heh I should have sent you Seesmic tshirts and stickers too, next time! - Loic Le Meur

Caleb Elston shared an item on Google Reader

How not to apply for a job

June 16 at 2:37 pm - Link

Jane Quigley, Robin Whitson, Benedikt Koehler, Mike Fruchter and 14 other people liked this

We’ve received applications from people spelling 37signals as “37 Signals” and Backpack as “Backback” and Basecamp as “Basscamp” or “Base Camp”. We even got one email from someone calling Highrise “Hi Rise”. One said how much they liked “Packcamp”. - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Packcamp! LOL - Harvey Simmons

oh, and don't bother to apply if you use personas or Photoshop http://www.37signals.com/svn/p... http://www.37signals.com/svn/p... - Andrew Smith

Yikes! - Caleb Elston

Maybe the "37 Signals" one was a *tad* bit harsh? - Daniel Bruce

there are being a bit cranky lately, first a couple of controversial posts and now this, but they are good guys nevertheless - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Jeremiah Owyang posted a message

“I can't believe how fast time goes. I've been at Forrester for 9 months, it's gone by so fast (we're so busy). Good news is that I've finally got my arms around the role. Average 'Ramp up' rate is 8-18 mos. I'm looking forward to the interesting research in coming future on social media/computing”

July 6 at 11:10 am - Link

John Cass, Mike Reynolds, Elliott Ng, Jason Kintzler and 4 other people liked this

6-9 months is about average for any mid-level management position for getting up to speed. That's what companies budget for. Looks like you are right on the money in that respect;-) - Paul Denlinger

Thomas Hawk published photos on Flickr

July 6 at 12:19 pm - Link

Michael Hocter, Mitchell Tsai, Justin Korn, Hisham Sadek and 12 other people liked this

the monkey's my 14,000th photograph uploaded to Flickr. 14,000 down, 986,000 to go. I love monkeys, they're my favorite animal. - Thomas Hawk

Congrats on #14,000!! Looking forward to the last 986,000... - Justin Korn

Thomas Hawk posted a message on Twitter

“Photograview did an interview with me here: http://tinyurl.com/6f5nxh”

July 6 at 11:46 am - Link

Jeff P. Henderson, anthony wong, carlotta fancypants, Mitchell Tsai and 10 other people liked this

Hooray for the Los Angeles 80's punk scene and the DIY ethic that lives on today! Best to you on your journey to 1 million--glad I get to see it. :) - Anna Haro

loved the 80s punk scene. Life was good back then in high school with no responsibilities. If you haven't seen Friedman's photography from that era it's definitely worth checking out. http://www.burningflags.com/bo... - Thomas Hawk

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Minor Threat AND Kerouac fan? I didn't know you were into punk rock, that's pretty awesome. On the road to one million pictures... Wow. Godspeed, Thomas! - Vincent X

Awesome! - Sarah Austin

Congratulations Thomas. Nice interview, glad to learm a little more about the man behind the camera. - Larry Kless via twhirl

Congratulations! Although I'm a recent fan, it makes a lot of sense that you were a part of the West Coast punk scene. I love that you use few software features except to process raw formats. And a word about the million-mark goal: it's amazing to pursue, much less attain that, but the larger achievement is that so many of your images are nothing short of gorgeous. Rock on. - Donna Mugavero

Just starting article. Have many great memories of west coast punk. Some from Tucson where I was living-seeing X in a bar of less than 100 the Gears playing in same place. Going to Madame Wong's to see the AlleyCatz and the Bags. great music and fun times. - Mark Forman

yay! it was a good read (who says that??)...and it's funny...every time i see your photos taken in oakland and read your opinions, *Brixton* by rancid goes through my mind. - carlotta fancypants

Jason Calacanis posted a link

Twitter's milkshake meet FriendFeed's straw

July 6 at 11:37 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

Niclas Strandh, excalipoor, Robert Banghart, ChaCha Fance and 67 other people liked this

thoughts? - Jason Calacanis via Bookmarklet

yep jason - here's most likely how you got so many so quickly - http://www.centernetworks.com/... - Allen Stern

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the one thing Twitter has it is that it was first before FF in that space. And that brings name recognition to the "masses" and a large inertia that you have to overcome before you can become a true replacement, no matter what technical advantages you bring to the table. I have 5 times more followers in Twitter than FF, and sadly a mass migration doesn't seem to be happening for these folks. - Daniel Robitaille

Your post to a given site takes on more life when it hits the pages of friendfeed. It's almost like you weigh where you want to "release" a post first knowing that it will get "picked up" by friendfeed. - todddoubleu

I do not think Twitter will survive as CMS systems that run into message bus systems are the hardest to scale on ruby on rails nd they do not have the money to fight two fronts ruby on rails scalability and new features to stave off competition. - Fred Grott

good link, allen. some additional default choices would be fantastic. read: better discovery mechanisms. having only members of the echo chamber as default choices makes for a duller feed. no offense to present company. ;) - Wolfsbayne

I think all this FF > Twitter discourse is seriously, seriously underestimating the power of Twitter's unparalleled portability. It's 100% usable through SMS and has an iPod-esque ecosystem of third party tools and add-ons that hook into it. These things brought Twitter to its throne, and now you guys aren't even factoring them into the equation because of a little downtime. - David Chartier

i'll post some thoughts on my blog, but one thing that is still annoying is represented in this post... where your friendfeed shows all aggregated iterations of this post here on ff and it just feels silly as i can choose which iteration to leave a comment on. that's an issue. maybe you should turn comments off on the other instances. except that you cannot because its not a feature. also, check out http://friendfeed.com/frendfee... to see some aggregation bugs. - sull

Jason, that's a brilliant "There Will Be Blood" reference. And so true. I'm afraid that Twitter is just a couple of weeks from being bludgeoned with a bowling pin by FF. - Frank Roche

I think the removal of a character limit would hurt twitter more than help it. Twitter was never meant as a conversation platform. I think keeping it small and simple makes it much easier for people to use. One of it's biggest strengths is that it's a short form messaging service, and to take that away would make it something that isn't twitter. - Austin Brown

Jason, I fully agree with what you say here. - Steve Rubel

I love the fact that there is no premium linked with the number of connections you have. In twitter the greater the number of connections, the higher you appear in the "following" list of your follower. That has become a reason of spam, lowering the quality of the twitter network. Plus, FF works. - Marcello Del Bono

http://sull.outputs.it/post/41... - sull

I can see how Twitter is useful for people who post via SMS, but while Im at the computer FF is far more useful and also more fun to use - Hoard via twhirl

I could offer my agreement here on your entry's content, but I'd rather tell you how much I dug the entry's title. - Donna Mugavero

I'll put it this way, i never used twitter because I'm not part of the technorati community, but I do use Friendfeed because it allows me to bring together all my online content and then share it with the people I want. That alone is enough for FF to beat out Twitter for me. - Alfredo Padilla

I think one of the things we have missed carries forward or plays forward a Robert Scoble post, see : http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/... ..let me put it in non tech terms as it pertains to start-ups. FOUNDERS MUST PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT FROM AROUND THEIR PRODUCTS! When I state founders I mean also the ones building the product. - Fred Grott

What it comes down to me is *noise*. FriendFeed is just noisy, what with content from all my social media friends all being dumped into one stream with no organization whatsoever. I look at my FF friends page and I can't make any rhyme or reason to what I'm seeing, even with little favicons to identify which service I'm reading from. Twitter, is clean and organized. - Stephen Lopez

School of ALL CAPS is a little loud... ;-) - Mitchell Tsai

I think Center Networks (Allen) has an interesting analysis. I'll be curious to see if the high profile FF users are as interested in commenting on other people's feeds as having their own words commented upon. Twitter just seems like a more democratic forum to me. Personally, I don't care if it is down a couple hours a week. FF only supplements it, it is not an adequate replacement. And I like to write more than 140 characters! Still Twitter is my first choice. - Liz

PS... Because I use the Flock browser, I get all my social media updates right from the Media Bar and People Sidebar, without ever having to open Twitter, YouTube, Flickr, Facebook, Pownce, Digg, etc... Everything I want is right there at the click of an icon. Flock > FF. - Stephen Lopez

I wouldn't underestimate twitter's connection through sms. It makes it the first legit mobile social network, and that is significant for mass adoption and use. Most people don't have internet on their phone to use a web app (iPhone Facebook, Tumblr, etc.) or internet (twitpic, friendfeed, etc.) to send email to update or submit to services. But they are very likely to have sms service, and are used to using it. - Tony

Liz I comment on tons of feeds. - Robert Scoble

Robert, but you seem to be the exception rather than the rule. - Robert Seidman

Jason, good post. I made some comments regarding your five questions here http://seriousaboutcamo.typepa... - Clay Newton

my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard - Tyler Gillies

I agree to what you say but besides Twitter reliability, its major flaw is really the reply (or conversation) system which is close to be useless. I guess FriendFeed gained a lot of people (at least myself) because of its efficient conversation system. - fbrunel

Jason, I agree with you a lot of the time but not in this case. I think it would be suicide for Twitter to get into a features arms race with FriendFeed. They would lose that battle. Twitter needs to focus on keeping it simple, getting stable, and becoming a short messaging infrastructure - not a destination. - Mike Doeff

Mike, I think you're right on. Twitter would do better to solidify its differentiation. - Clay Newton

Agreed. I have flip flopped a couple of times on which service I prefer, but FriendFeed is clearly in the lead. If they launch a great iPhone app next Friday it could be thing that pushes them over the hump. - Scott Watermasysk

Scott: FriendFeed already has a great iPhone app. http://www.friendfeed.com/ipho... - Robert Scoble

FF's iPhone web app is fun and all, but a native app could offer a lot more functionality without having to wait for page loads and other clunkiness. I'm hoping for a native app too. - David Chartier

Twitter has become a victim of the success it created for itself. As Twitter gained popularity it naturally creates a market for competition. Its poor performance allowed FF to grow. Many of Twitters power users have begun to migrate communication, and followers to FF wanted to see what it is all about. Twitter has lost its first movers advantage. I would not have been able to even make this post on Twitter. FF invites conversation and dialogue. Sorry Bezos, you may have made the wrong investment. - Fred Neil

I would love it if FF came out with a native iPhone app that took advantage of push notifications by alerting me based on certain criteria. - Granteezy

Agree. Twitter just isn't built for the type of robust sharing and conversations that make FF really interesting. Twitter is like shouting into a canyon, FF is like being at a noisy bar. Sorry, but too many Tweets are just status updates: You're going to Subway for lunch, whoopee! FF gets a lot better when you hide non-commented on Tweets. As for FF enhancements, I'd like a merge function so the same content from various people/feeds are collapsed into one master. That way I can see all comment streams. - AJ Kohn

I agree. Great post. - jonn

Keep in mind that twitter was not initially made for replies, the whole @ sign reply came from users wanting a way to reply and Twitter then started to support the method - Ray Slakinski via twhirl

Nice way to put it! - ChaCha Fance

Looks like Twitter has lost the first mover advantage, and now FF has the first mover advantage with its features. Though since Twitter was the first mover in the beginning it still has a bunch of people who are on it and not on other sites and also has a familiar interface and more third party applications that are compatible with it than Twitter does. Favorite thing so far about FF is the new Seesmic feature to reply to a seesmic post from within FF, really killer. - Andrew Fielding

I'm still one of the few that want's Jaiku to get back in the game! Google is dropping the ball there!!! - tomit

Doug Meacham posted a message on Twitter

“I haven't done anything on Utterz in months, but @susanreynolds and @britrock just started following me. Guess I should give it another go.”

June 25 at 7:17 pm - Link

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Tamar Weinberg posted a message

“I wonder when Friendfeed will integrate Plurk. They've been stagnating at 35 services for a long time.”

June 5 at 7:43 pm - Link

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I hope so, plurk is growing on me - BCK

40 services and growing. Plurk is on their list according to their dev who got back to me today. :) - Tamar Weinberg

mashable posted a message on Twitter

“my friendship overload cry for help, thinly veiled as a post about the awesome @garyvee http://tinyurl.com/6qjqrs”

June 2 at 2:20 am - Link

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If you have too many friends, stop buying the beer. - Robert Scoble

@scoble, i love that quote! did you make it up? - Tyler Gillies

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Yup. Just mere minutes ago. Lack of sleep brings funny stuff out of my brain. - Robert Scoble

funny == brilliant! - Tyler Gillies

Scoble are you still up?! LOL - Susan Beebe

Beer has a magnetizing affect doesn't it!?! - Susan Beebe

Hey Pete, that post with you and Gary in Borders was awesome... so how much do you charge an hour for Psych services doc? - Susan Beebe

Beer references about a wine guy? Cognitive dissonance... - Rick Wolff

Jeremiah Owyang posted a message

“I look at my childhood friends who grew up without the arts and realize how uncreative their careers are compared to my friends who grew up in the arts. ”

June 1 at 4:16 pm - Link

Jennifer Dittrich, Shawn L. Morrissey, Susan Beebe, Alan Cheslow and 11 other people liked this

I totally agree with your observation. It really upsets me when i hear about school cutting their music and arts programs due to budget challenges. The music/arts programs gave me a creative outlet and helped teach me some valuable life lessons. It'd be sad if the new generation is denied that experience as children. - Samantha Reeb-Wilson via Alert Thingy

Louis Gray shared an item on Google Reader

Comment fragmentation isn’t the blogger’s fault

June 1 at 4:23 pm - Link

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Thomas Hawk posted a message on Twitter

“@fredwilson FriendFeed.”

May 27 at 10:55 am - Link

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I like that better than Techmeme - Jane Quigley via Alert Thingy

That too, increasingly for me. - Steve Rubel

Britt Raybould posted a message on Twitter

“new blog post: does what you're producing offer "tangible improvements" over the status quo? http://tinyurl.com/64adxn”

May 27 at 8:02 am - Link

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Hugh MacLeod posted a message on Twitter

“"Work/Life Balance": A term most likely coined by someone who hates their job.”

May 27 at 8:02 am - Link

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Or a recruiter... - Jane Quigley via Alert Thingy

Allen Stern posted an entry on CenterNetworks

An Important Message Regarding the Future of CenterNetworks

May 26 at 8:34 pm - Link

Dobromir Hadzhiev, Mitchell Tsai, Robert Scoble, Hutch Carpenter and 5 other people liked this

Oh dear. The sarcasm is killing me. But I got a shout-out! Woo! - Louis Gray

Haha I am totally going to print out a FriendFeed logo and point to it every time I tell my friends about the service. Nice! - Mack D. Male

AWESOME decision! Blogs will ALL move and live here ;-) - Susan Beebe

I wish I had a few days free time to sit down with my code again. I'm itching to rebut Allen with a proof of concept that brings FriendFeed into a monetizable fold, instead of simply sending out unmonetized content out to FriendFeed. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins via twhirl

Loic Le Meur posted a message

“Here we go this year I will move one year up again into this 35-44 range. I hate when sites remind me that I am getting old all the time.”

May 26 at 8:32 pm - via twhirl - Link

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It's fascinating to see the chunks that sites break users into, though. For things like Education and Ethnicity, I can see why you'd want to granularize the demographic reporting (in other words, give people select drop-downs or radio buttons) - but why not have a text box for age, so that you're not locked into unchanging, artificial categories? It'd yield much more interesting results! (I speak, for what it's worth, as a data analyst; it's much easier to figure out age's relationship to other data when you have the actual age!) - Chris Anthony

I'm in the 65+ category. When do I start getting more phishing attacks asking for my bank info? They're still trying to sell me Cialis. - Jonathan Leavitt

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Did NOT need to be reminded of this Pfft! - Crystal Clear via Alert Thingy

It gets worse -- wait until you start getting offered the senior discounts... - Chuck Lawson

OUCH! I turn 40 this year... crap, thanks for the reminder! augh! - Susan Beebe

Chris, demographics can break you into age groups without too much of a problem. There's something that 18-25 year-olds are that 25-54 year olds aren't, or there's something that 18-49 year olds are that 50+ year olds aren't. So for the owner of the service or advertiser only really cares that you belong in one of those groups: there's no need to support any more granularity, either in the data structure for that person or in the interface. - Mark Trapp

I too turn 35 this year. I'll be bumped to the next range. - Morton Fox

What I said applies mainly to advertising value. I'm sure there are other uses for having more granularity, but most people who are asking your age are after your advertising demo. - Mark Trapp

Mark, you've answered your own question. It's not that you need the granularity for the final groupings - it's that you need the granularity to figure out what the final groupings should be! These sites are asking for broad answers like they already know the answers - but then why are they looking for demographics in the first place? (Besides which, 18-25 is, bluntly, too broad. It encompasses both the people who just graduated from high school and the people who just graduated from college... - Chris Anthony

...and those groups can have wildly different interests. "18-21" and "21-25" would be better, but then why not just ask for age and be done with it?) - Chris Anthony

I don't mean to say that the groupings don't have merit; in fact, I use age grouping all the time in my analysis. But I have the actual two-digit age available too, so that I can redefine my age groups if I need to. (Say 25-34 and 35-44 don't yield interesting results, but for some reason 20-29 and 30-39 do; or perhaps instead of grouping I want to see how incremental age affects response rates over time...) Raw age also allows the analyst to more effectively use future data without having to ask again... - Chris Anthony

...since, if I know that a person was 24 when they signed up, I can tell that they're going to be 25 a year later when they're still using the site. By asking for groupings, you lose that ability. (Actually, better yet would be to ask for birth dates, since you can derive age from that *and* send a "happy birthday" note to the user. :) - Chris Anthony

And my age group isn't even there! - Yuvi

Welcome to the club! @yuvi - Thanks for rubbing it in! :) - Mike Reynolds

Chris, good points. I wonder if there are some superficial privacy reasons: people are comfortable giving an age range, but not as comfortable giving an exact age. - Mark Trapp

Your age as a user on a website is nobody else's business really if you are over 21. Most people ask for it and then do nothing with the information. - Pete Gilbert via Alert Thingy

Pete, you may not want to give it up, but there is definite value for an advertiser and a marketer to know your age, or what age demo you're in. an 18-25 year old has completely different purchasing patterns than a 54+. - Mark Trapp

Perhaps "what age do you act?" would be more appropriate, both for marketers and consumers. - Thomas Brox Røst

Pete, that's why many data collectors have adopted an "I'd rather not say" option. (I've heard people say that doing that invalidates the data, but I have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why that would be so.) If you're not comfortable giving the information, don't. Nothing's mandatory on the web. - Chris Anthony

thanks for that reminder. as if my grey hair wasn't enough. but yeah, it's about the attitude more than the age. cliche, but true. - Cee Bee

Charlie Owen posted a message on Twitter

“I'm checking out FriendFeed because Thomas Hawk said I should. Why does he distract me so much with new shiny things? ;)”

May 22 at 1:24 pm - Link

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haha, welcome to FriendFeed Charlie! - Thomas Hawk

Not the best reason, I'd say, but a good result nonetheless :) - Eric Florenzano

Man, now I have to move :) - Sean Alexander

I listen to Thomas, too, which is why I just subscribed to your FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Sean we could use a lot more of you around here as well :) Sean's another Microsoft employee. - Thomas Hawk

If I keep listening to him, I will never get anything done... - JA Castillo

Jason Falls posted a message on Twitter

“I've talked my IT folks at work into switching me to a MacBook Pro. I'm going to hold off on a personal purchase until I've had sufficie ...”

May 22 at 4:48 pm - Link

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Jason Falls posted a message on Twitter

“@MackCollier I'd pay $10 a month for Twitter, but only if we could vote certain people off the island.”

May 22 at 4:38 pm - Link

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