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Re: My Perspective on Cyber Bullying for Teenagers, Teachers, Educators, and Parents - http://w3o.blogspot.com/2009...
"I hope more schools will take an interest on the topic."
- Janette Toral
Re: My Perspective on Cyber Bullying for Teenagers, Teachers, Educators, and Parents - http://w3o.blogspot.com/2009...
"Hi Kelvin. Send me an e-mail with a link to your true profile and the links to those who misused your identity. Something like that happened to a family member in the past and was able to shut it down."
- Janette Toral
Re: My Perspective on Cyber Bullying for Teenagers, Teachers, Educators, and Parents - http://w3o.blogspot.com/2009...
"Hello Vince. I'm very happy to hear that. Cheers!"
- Janette Toral
Re: Get a free delegate pass: DigitalFilipino E-Commerce Summit - http://www.bloggingfromhome.com/2009...
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- Janette Toral
Re: Get a free delegate pass: DigitalFilipino E-Commerce Summit - http://www.bloggingfromhome.com/2009...
"Hi Christian. What you posted is not a valid url. Please post the correct one - that is of your specific blog post. Thank you."
- Janette Toral
Re: Janette Toral - My 10 Maven Secrets - http://www.influentialblogger.net/2009...
"Thank you Anton for the opportunity. Look forward in having a copy of the recording. Thank you."
- Janette Toral
Re: Get a free delegate pass: DigitalFilipino E-Commerce Summit - http://www.bloggingfromhome.com/2009...
"Hi Ian. Kindly indicate the blog post url of your entry for official submission. Thank you!"
- Janette Toral
Re: The Philippine Blog Awards 2009 - http://pinoybiz.blogspot.com/2009...
"Congratulations for being one of the finalists! Now I wish someone really did a Kanya West, that would be fun."
- Janette Toral
Re: The 2009 Philippine Blog Awards Night - http://animetric.blogspot.com/2009...
"Congratulations pa rin to you!"
- Janette Toral
Re: Double Take at The Lopez Museum - http://digitalmanila.blogspot.com/2009...
"I love your photo shots Jon. Great to catch up with you!"
- Janette Toral
Re: 2 Reasons Why HTML 5 Should be in Web Designers’ Sights - http://webstandards.raquedan.com/...
"Hi Regnard. Thanks for sharing this. When will this be deployed? I'll be upgrading my site and would want to transition it in time for this one."
- Janette Toral
Re: Preparations before attending a webinar. - http://www.qlickcafe.com/blogs...
"Thank you Jhong for participating in the event. I very much appreciate it."
- Janette Toral
Hi Folks! Today is my birthday, I'm 33! :) And I wanted to celebrate by releasing an idea -and an implementation of it- to the wild! It's Socnode: The basic unit of distributed social networks. http://www.socnode.org/
wolf hesse, Mitchell Tsai, Thierry R. Andriamirado and 111 other people liked this
I'm also opening the private group Dango Daikazoku だんご大家族 where the making-of socnodes is actively discussed. Welcome everyone! http://friendfeed.com/dango-p... :) Oh and the source code here: http://github.com/directe... ! Fork! :) DEMO here: http://ff.im/7u1ER !
- directeur
happy birthday buddy. congrats! :)
- Oğuz Serdar
Phew! I feel LIGHTER! :)
- directeur
May I mention the Socnode source is up on Github? :) http://github.com/directe...
- Meryn Stol
Sure, Meryn! It is :)
- directeur
congrats ! I hope the best for the new age and new project
- denizoktar
Well done! Happy Birthday.
- Peter Hoffmann
Congrats!
- Nick Lothian
Happy birthday directeur, tomorrow, it's mine : )
- Didier Lahely
happy birthday!
- Joe Silence is not dead
Thank you guys! :) Didier, par avance, joyeux anniversaire à toi aussi! :)
- directeur
funny i just wished someone else with the same post a happy bday - well happy bday to you too
- viki saigal
:) Thanks viki!
- directeur
Happy birthday!
- Cea
Happy Birthday, Directeur!
- David Cook
from fftogo
Happy Birthday directeur :) socnode is a great idea btw :p
- Onur Gündüz
Thank you, guys! For a demo btw, read this: http://ff.im/7u1ER :)
- directeur
Happy birthday!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Happy birthday!
- Dee S.
Congratulations, directeur! You won this race, LOL! I'm excited to see what comes out from this project.
- Jorge Escobar
Hey hey! It's my favorite directeur's birthday? Happy Birthday, Miyagi-San! Looking forward to checking this new project out. :)
- Josh Haley
♫ ♬ Happy birthday to you ♩ ♪ ♬
- Laurent
:) Really glad to have you arround, guys! Jorge, now your turn, man! ;-) Josh! That's *A* HONOR! Watashi wa? Hontoni honto? Arigato Josh san, and hey! Focus Daniel San! ALLWAYS LOOK EYE :) — Mille merçis, Laurent! :)
- directeur
Credit where credit is due: The blue O is an idea by Vijay no baka! The guy who knows how to insult me in japanese and who in return gets his fair share of insults too! Arigato, rokudenashi! :) — Oh and to see the thing in action, go to http://socnode2.appspot.com login with "beta" and password "123" share something and go to http://socnode.appspot.com to see it there too!
- directeur
Happy Birthday! And this sounds like a great idea!
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Thanks Ahsan Ali :)
- directeur
Happy birthday!
- Laura Lou Who
Happy Birthday bro! :) Now you're an old man :p
- Tunahan E. Bilgin
Thanks Laura! Tunahan, thank you too! And Oh yes! I'm old, and old people don't send DMs to their turkish friends with a shamefull record of them singing in turkish :D
- directeur
oh i like the way u sing :))
- Onur Gündüz
Yes, Onur, for a good laugh that's really nice! :P Thanks anyway :) heh, you won't share it here right, right?? :))
- directeur
For a good laugh??? kanka I CRIED when i listened to that piece :pp and i'm definitely gonna share it if you leave this project :)
- Onur Gündüz
Happy Birthday directeur!!! :)
- AJ Batac
Happy birthday.
- Admiral Anika
Happy birthday!
- Ladybug Heather
Thanks AJ, Anika and Ladybug! :)
- directeur
anni di Cristo! congratulations and happy birthday.
- Nathan Rein
Happy Birthday. Off to go play with socnode.
- Jimminy
wishing you a *very* Happy Birthday !
- Adriano
Thanks Nathan, Jimminy and Adriano! :)
- directeur
awesome!! & of course Happy Bday
- sofarsoShawn
Happy Bday!
- Herb Hernandez
Happy birthday!
- Janette Toral
Thanks, folks :)
- directeur
Happy Birthday! I hope the day treated you well.
- pea
Thanks pea! :) Well I was really busy, but now I'm watching anime —yes, I'm 33, so what? :)
- directeur
I'm not judging you. Those of us who are *ahem* older and still like Elmo, as an example, can't afford to be too judgy. ;-)
- pea
Yeah!! ;-)
- directeur
Happy Birthday/Dogum gunun kutlu olsun Directeur, i wish all your wishes come true, especially Begum part :)
- Muge Cerman
happy birthday :) great project.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
otanjoubi omedeto gozaimasu directeur :D btw the Matrix series that rocked the planet was inspired by Ghost in the Shell. Not only that, GITS talks about social media and memes 10 years ago. The anime we watch are far from the silly Powerpuff kiddie anime that people normally see as anime. Watch away directeur, I'm with you :D
- vijay
happy bday, mr directeur!
- imabonehead
Happy bday!
- Internet's Tad
Happy birthday indeed!
- Adrian
A very Happy Birthday!
- Joe
Happy B'day!
- .LAG liked that
Happy Birthday :)
- Baard @ Pixum
Happy Birthday, directeur!
- Anne Bouey
Happy Birthday, directeur! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Happy Birthday! You were born at a good time of year. :)
- Cristo
Happy Birthday directeur !
- Stanislas Jourdan
bon anniversaire!
- anna sauce
Happy birthday, Directeur!! Looking forward to checking out SocNode, thanks for sharing!
- Harold Cabezas
Thank you all folks! :) @Vijay: Totally! @Harold, please do! You can try the demo (links above) and check out the source code too! @Cristo: Happy birthady to you too! ;-)
- directeur
Happy birthday, glad to meet you and have you as a FF. Be happy allways, you deserve it.
- Céu de Buarque
Gracias Céu! Really glad to meet you, too! :)
- directeur
Happy Birthday and nice going on the SM implementation :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Happy birthday Directeur! Let me be a part of the Dango Dango Family :)
- CannonGod
Thanks Jeunelle and CannonGod! CannonGod, oh sure! welcome aboard and let's sing together: dango dango dango dango dango daikazoku http://ff.im/7srJ3 :)
- directeur
happy belated birthday!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
happy belated from me
- Mike Dammann
Congrats on this release directeur. :-) This will be the basis of many great projects, I think. :-)
- Jason Huebel
Oh, and Happy Birthday!
- Jason Huebel
Thank you, all! :) Jason, let's hope so! As I often said it in the Dango Daikazoku group, the idea here is really more important than my own django implementation of it -which actually is beautiful too! ;-)
- directeur
A belated happy birthday to you, Directeur. :)
- Brome
Merci Brome! C'est très gentil :)
- directeur
Doğum günün kutlu olsun directeur! Nice senelere...
- Tahir "orphy" DEMİRTAŞ
Çok teşekkürler, Tahir kardeşim :)
- directeur
Happy Bday ... Enjoy the Day !
- johnpiercy
Thanks, Herzeleid! Thanks everyone! :)
- directeur
Happy Birthday - great age! ;)
- Jemm
happy bday buddy :) mutlu yıllar, Allah hayırlı uzun ömür versin :))
- Mücahit Yılmaz
from fftogo
Çok teşekkürler Jemm! Thank you so much, Mücahit :)
- directeur
Re: Free web seminars tomorrow at One Internet Day 2009 - http://azraelsmerryland.blogspot.com/2009...
"Hello Azrael. Thank you so much for helping spread the word about the event. I very much appreciate it."
- Janette Toral
Re: Full Certificate Webinar Course: Search Engine Optimization & Link Building Techniques - http://digitalfilipinoclub.blogspot.com/2009...
"Hi Nica. For non-club members, the workshop cost P4000. Per session fee is P750. To register, just click on the registration link above. Thank you for the interest."
- Janette Toral
One Year Ago Kevin and I were down in Carmel with many of our Friends and Family, getting ready to get married. Sunday will be our 1st Anniversary!!!! I Love You Kevin!! And I'm bringing back the video I made for you last February to help celebrate!! Happy Anniversary Weekend! - The Book of Love - For Kevin on Vimeo - http://www.vimeo.com/3206596
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Happy anniversary! (To the tune of the William Tell Overture á la Flintstones)
- Spidra Webster
Happy anniversary!
- Stephen Mack
Happy Anniversary, guys!
- Mark Trapp
That is a great video! And a great tune. Our friends Danny and Bethany played that song at their wedding. What did you use to make the video?
- Robert Felty
Happy anniversary!
- Janette Toral
Thank you all!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Congratulations! Ours is tomorrow. :)
- Laura Lou Who
Laura, Congratulations to you too!!!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Robert, I use Adobe After Effects for animation type videos.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thank you. :)
- Laura Lou Who
Happy Anniversary guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Happy Anniversary!
- Mark Jepsen
Man, that went by so fast!!! Happy Anniversary Fox's!
- Erin "Wifey" Johns
Congrats! It was such a wonderful event :) How quickly the year has gone.
- Georgia Diehl
You were married on September 13th? That's our anniversary! Congratulations!
- joey
Also, that's a lovely video! You're quite talented.
- joey
joey, awesome... any 13th is awesome fun, but i very much love September 13th, great time of year. Congrats to you guys too!!! And thanks, it was a fun video. With the right programs and lots of patience you could totally do it too. I love doing kinetic typography. I want to do some speeches or beat poet type stuff too.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thank you everyone for all the great wishes!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
I'm late but happy anniversary!
- Dario Gomez
Thank you Dario, and you aren't late, it's tomorrow. We're just celebrating the whole weekend!!!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Happy anniversary. Our eighth is also this month.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Happy Anniversary, Rachel and Kevin!
- Anne Bouey
Happy Anniversary!
- joey
Happy upcoming 8th MiniMage!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thank you Anne!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thank you joey!! Happy Anniversary to you and Ben too!!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Today's the day!
- Stephen Mack
Yay!
- Kevin Fox
Woo hoo!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thanks, Rachel :)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Where were you 8 years ago today?
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I had just boarded a plane in San Diego. We were still at the gate when the ground stop started.
- Maggie
At work, watching tv.
- Paul Buchheit
Hotel room, Claire, Michigan, doing paperwork.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Home. Was awoken by a phone call from a good friend in Brooklyn who called me and told me to turn on the television.
- Derrick
Well, by this time of the day I was listening to one of my neighbors hurl every curse word imaginable as Marine 1 flew over our apartment building on its way to the White House.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Asleep. Didn't know about anything until I was eating breakfast and my friend in DC called to let me know he was OK. I was like, "Uh, why are you telling me this?"
- Shannon Jiménez
Watching TV in bed.
- Mol, Santa Claws
At work, in newspaper office...
- Phil Smirnov
from iPhone
In San Diego, getting ready to attend CTIA event.
- Janette Toral
I was about to go to a tutor.
- ashish
Getting ready to go to work, and slowly hearing about co-workers in eastern North America who were trying to get home to California. Not too long after that I went to a law enforcement confernce in Toronto where John Ashcroft was the guest speaker. I admit to being a little nervous on that trip.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Working out of an office in Nassau, Bahamas on a road project. Pretty much nothing got done all day while we tried to watch as much of the news as we could get hold of.
- 1x29
I had just gotten home from school when I heard...
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
In LA glued to the TV
- Rodfather
At home, woke up early to catch the markets opening and was greeted by "America under Attack" Yahoo home page. Spent the rest of the day glued to the internet.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
Getting ready for a Web seminar at 8a PDT. Saw the events and drove into the office anyway, only to have the phone lines taken by the govt. We rescheduled.
- Louis Gray
Eating lunch before last year @ Uni started
- embee
Glued on TV. Shocked.
- AJ Batac
Trying to connect to news website to figure out what was happening but could not get through.
- Philippe
In fourth grade, preparing for PSSA testing.
- Michael Ryan
I came into work, was told what was going on, and I said, "you're kidding." I really thought they were trying to put one over on me.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Aromas, trying to get ready for work, when news of the twin towers attacks hit the radio...
- Helen Sventitsky
I had just landed in San Diego airport having flown from Washington Dulles (En Route from Vienna). My brother-in-law called and when I picked up, his first words were "thank God"
- Deepak Singh
New Format First Impressions - #ecademy http://www.ecademy.com/node...
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I like it. Will revive my account and have a better feel.
- Janette Toral
Stanford Breakfast: Creating Winning Social Media Strategies - http://www.slideshare.net/charlen...
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Two thumbs up for a great presentation!
- Janette Toral
Tag Friends in Your Status and Posts - http://blog.facebook.com/blog...
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wow - this is big. Twitter for the masses.
- Morgan
although I think if you have a lot of friends tagging you (depending on connection numbers), your wall can get quite flooded.
- Janette Toral
Re: Did Twitter, Plurk change your blogging habits? - http://www.bloggingfromhome.com/2009...
"That is true Azrael. Sharing an item via Twitter or Plurk allows you to get feedback right away on the content you have just posted. Allows you to get loyal readers too."
- Janette Toral
Re: Reed diffusers for long lasting home fragrances - http://w3o.blogspot.com/2009...
"Thanks for sharing Holly. I should try them out. =)"
- Janette Toral
Re: Internet-access friendly Makati hotel - http://w3o.blogspot.com/2009...
"Great to hear that Stephanie. See you in CDO this MBS3! =)"
- Janette Toral
Re: May 13: Cebu E-Commerce / E-Business Owners Meet-Up - http://digitalfilipinoclub.blogspot.com/2008...
"Hi Yul. I suggest joining and posting your requirement at http://digitalfilipinocom.ning.com There are a lot of Cebu based folks there."
- Janette Toral
Re: Politics of blogging - http://www.bloggingfromhome.com/2009...
"Hi Jerome. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you that it will just continue. Posted this just to air my position on the matter to be clear or transparent with bloggers and advertisers who wants to work with me."
- Janette Toral
Re: E-Commerce Consulting & Services - http://w3o.blogspot.com/2009...
"Thanks Meikah. It is a work in progress. Will keep you posted. =)"
- Janette Toral
So let's talk a little bit about Community. Ideally you should own your community. There's one way to do this - around a blog. So what I'd like is to focus on some sort of open technology that, when you subscribe to my blog, you also subscribe to my Twitter stream, my Facebook stream, my FriendFeed stream.
Carolyn Chan, Mahendra (SkepticGeek), Brian Watkins and 13 other people liked this
It should work the other way too - when you subscribe to me on those networks it should auto-subscribe you to my blog and any other network I'm on.
- Jesse Stay
Then, you can come to my blog to get my full stream, or go to the individual networks to get what they provide. Their responsibility should be to provide something unique to complement your social graph, something your blog doesn't provide.
- Jesse Stay
Now you're talking.
- Kate Foy
I'm just brainstorming here - would love others to chime in.
- Jesse Stay
Or, the responsibility of the Social Networks could be in following your social graph. You subscribe via the blog, but follow (and organize) via the social network.
- Jesse Stay
But against that, if I read your blog, I shouldn't have to see your Twitter stream that might be filled with descriptions about your coffee intake.
- Johnny Worthington
I'm tired of this being tied to one social network or another because our community is there. We should own our community, no matter where we go.
- Jesse Stay
Johnny, that would be the responsibility of the blog design to separate that from the main content in an organized manner.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, agreed re separation of main blog content from 'outliers'
- Kate Foy
This is why I think Seesmic or TweetDeck have serious potential - they could do this.
- Jesse Stay
Flip it around, Jesse. Start thinking and talking about your content and the related conversations rather than the frame that's put around it. People centric vs service centric.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, correct, but where is that information stored? Where do I centralize it all so I own it? The blog makes the most sense.
- Jesse Stay
Love the concept - this matter of owning your community. How do you deal with the added noise? Will there be filters in place as well? Some people are great bloggers but some of them turn into another kind of beast altogether when they go to twitter and the other networks.
- jan geronimo
Right now the blog is really the only personal content store and publishing system we've got. You could set up a Laconica instance, but the way that meshes with the rest of the world isn't very mature. Perhaps there's something we need to build on the blog back end that let's you author content and chose which channels to push it to... and not necessarily push it to your blog, per se... if you know what I mean.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ideally, I think Twitter/Facebook/FriendFeed should be organizers of your content, not sources.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I want my blog to be the hub, but I do have other conversations with other communities in my varied outlier networks. I want some way to pull it all together rather than have to keep heading out somewhere. There is a lot of overlap. My blog has seen many more hits since I've talked it up on my other networks. What you are suggesting seems to be a reasonable next step. It would certainly solve a lot of my problems.
- Kate Foy
Ken, I think that would be incredibly useful. It would be a simple matter of creating a Wordpress plugin that does that (or similar for other engines). If Twitter could receive my PSHB or rssCloud posts rather than be the sender that would be ideal as well because then there wouldn't be any new technology
- Jesse Stay
You know, we sorta need some sort of personal content hub and dashboard... which doesn't necessarily have to be the same view the reader/visitor has. You might have content spread out all over the web on different services, with associated comment threads on FriendFeed, @replies on Twitter, Facebook items, etc. but with some central dashboard to manage them all only visible to you, the author.
- Ken Sheppardson
Or, maybe in the rssCloud or PSHB specs a "destination" tag could be specified to say "I only want this to go to these destinations - if you're not one of them, you don't get my content"
- Jesse Stay
Wordpress also needs to fix their architecture to categorize main blog posts, and separate them from microblog posts. The interface needs to be much simpler in doing that as well. (along with other Blog platforms)
- Jesse Stay
Well I have a link for my self right now that I designed as PoC, for something, that is one step of the way to doing this, I'm working on setting up the database design for it, and securing everything at this point, but here are my pertinent locations. http://lnkr.hiphs.com/socialme (button will open multiple tabs) Still trying to make it more friendly.
- Jimminy
Right now we're headed down this rathole of trying to aggregate all the conversations related to a particular piece of content in some giant list of comments under a blog post. It only confuses the reader. Keep the convos separate, but make them all visible to the author in a more unified way. Only confuse one person. As the author you can serve as the intermediary/moderator of all the different convos.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, exactly
- Jesse Stay
I need to put together some diagrams to organize what I have in my head. I'm not sure any blog platform is really set up to do it perfectly yet.
- Jesse Stay
It might be helpful and free the thinking up some to drop the term "blog". We're talking about more of a personal "Content Management System" or hub.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken's idea of personal content hub and dashboard- now that would simplify a lot of things.
- jan geronimo
You could really use rssCloud or PSHB well with this though - you could tell it only to ping Twitter, or only ping FriendFeed, or only ping Facebook that you have a new feed when you only want it to go out to them. You'd just need to get Twitter/FB/FF to accept RSS/Atom feeds as a way to import content.
- Jesse Stay
Ken, re: dropping the term, "blog" - the thing is we never really left blogging. "Micro-blog" is just a shortened form of blog. It could certainly be called a "Content Hub" though, in respect to rssCloud and PSHB.
- Jesse Stay
I know from a "Social Media Expert" standpoint everybody thinks about the channels by name (i.e. Twitter, Facebook, etc), but I'd be inclined to try to think about just flagging things by whatever sort of taxonomy you want to apply... short vs long, personal vs professional, lolcats vs "do anybody nos"... you come up with the flags and categories, apply those to the content you author, and the system decides where to push it. You never think "I'm going to tweet this", you just write and tag.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm going to chat with Joseph Scott tomorrow (my friend at Automattic) and see how this could fit into Wordpress, if at all.
- Jesse Stay
What if you don't care about blogging? To me this is just a bulletin board, and I'm replying to your post. Blogging seems to be very elitist to me.
- Cristo
Ken, that's pretty much what I'm thinking - you could even use open standards to make that work, assuming Twitter and FB and others supported it to push updates.
- Jesse Stay
I don't really want other people "owning" what I write. Everybody owns whatever they write.
- Cristo
...and I think beyond that everybody should get to chose how and where they write it. As long as we have a global system of in-reply-to pointers, comments can become "first class" objects that we sling around just like we do the items they refer to.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jesse, I can delete it also, unless you block me. In which case, I will no longer participate in conversation with you.
- Cristo
I don't use Twitter, but if I comment on FriendFeed, I'm not commenting on your blog. I'm commenting on the conversation on FriendFeed.
- Cristo
That might be, but it isn't my desire. I'm not excited about the publisher / subscriber model of publishing. I want coffee shop conversation, not old media frameworks.
- Cristo
I'd just point out that content isn't like a lamp or a chair. It can exist in more than one place. There's a whole can of worms related to licensing, but fundamentally there's no reason your comment can't live on both of our "personal content management systems".
- Ken Sheppardson
When you delete your comment on my blog, you're really just revoking my license to display it. You might still keep it somewhere, display it on your own site, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Great, so then it's like Usenet, except everybody has their own rules for their posts. You have to read the license agreement and understand all the terms and conditions before you reply to anyone. Sounds great!
- Cristo
Yeah, I don't think of it that way. That's why I like to delete my account every so often. I'm not looking to maintain a web presence. I'm only in it for the moment.
- Cristo
I think what you're fighting against, Chris, is the fact that you fundamentally can't delete something once you publish it these days. There's no "this tape will automatically self destruct" capability for FriendFeed comments. The minute you hit enter, a couple hundred systems could pick up that content via the API, and it's completely outside your ability to control.
- Ken Sheppardson
You might delete the most obvious instances, but it's out there. To take a simple example, there's a room here... FFRooms, I think... that's just made up of RSS feeds from other rooms. As soon as you post something in a room, FFRooms picks it up, and even if you delete the original item it's in FFrooms for posterity, "owned" by the user who imported the feed from the original room.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, that's true. I am fighting against that. And I will continue to, because I have been involved in legal cases before, and it's not pleasant to have boxes of documents and email trolled through.
- Cristo
Jesse, yes, but I can delete who I am. And I can make it more difficult for others to see what I've written.
- Cristo
#2 rule of thumb on the web, you never know what will be used against you later.
- Cristo
#4 rule of thumb on the web, you don't have to actually delete everything, you just have to make it more tiresome to troll through it.
- Cristo
#8 rule of thumb on the web, don't try to tell other people how to use technology just because that's the way you think it should be used.
- Cristo
#1 rule of thumb on the web, never give Jesse Stay a break. I would have made this 10, but Ken limited me to 9. Also, he didn't say I couldn't start over. :)
- Cristo
#10 rule of thumb on the web, don't post a lot of inflammatory nonsense where you bait people and act the fool, then decontextualize it by deleting all of your comments to make the other person look like they were being jerks or 2 people who were destroying you were fighting with each other and try to clean your reputation
- Matthew DeVries
And with that, good night. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Hi Matthew. Welcome to the party.
- Cristo
o.O do I know you?
- Matthew DeVries
Nope, just welcoming you to the conversation.
- Cristo
LOL that's the first time I've ever seen anyone use that logical and most rational of responses to that.
- Matthew DeVries
I've actually never liked this whole own your stuff, blog is king movement. If you're not feeding your family with your blog, it's just way more trouble than it's worth. I like things the way they are, with a giant pile of tools that if you want them connected, you build them up and put them together yourself, and have the choice to mix and match.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, that's fine, but your blog should be able to be part of that mix and match. You should have control based on where you originated your content.
- Jesse Stay
There's also the whole social graph side of it. I want my Social Graph to follow me from network to network. I don't want to have different social graphs on each. I should have full social graphs, with filters based on how I want to see it on each network.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, that's what I don't like. This one home idea. I want my twitter people on twitter, my facebook people on facebook, my blog people on my blog, and my work blog people on my work blog. I want hard walls between them.
- Matthew DeVries
Jesse, maybe you should ask Chris Saad to add that to the APML spec, the social graph aspect, I'd also love to see APML become a more commonly used protocol.
- Jimminy
Matthew, that's old-school thinking. Too much work. You should be able to filter based on network, but your social graph, at least those who are subscribed to you, should follow you where you go.
- Jesse Stay
Jimminy, yeah, Chris would be a great person to talk to, and he could get SixApart's involvement
- Jesse Stay
I couldn't disagree more. It's just not a comfortable feeling. The connecting should take work and effort that shows you really mean this. No body wants just one identity.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, I do - I am who I am, wherever I go.
- Jesse Stay
So is Scoble. So is Louis Gray.
- Jesse Stay
You very well may be.
- Matthew DeVries
If you need a new identity then create a new identity, but that new identity should be able to port as well in its own domain.
- Jesse Stay
Matt, if you want to make people work for it, I provided a link to a PoC I worked on a while back, and picked up again in the past week, http://lnkr.hiphs.com/socialme (button opens multiple tabs to my blog, FF, FB, and Twitter.)
- Jimminy
Also, your one world idea stiffles creativity and innovation, because every new product now has to mesh with your world to even have a hope of getting noticed. Even with the nice hard walls that do exist now, people are still pressured, "yeah, that's neat, but can it plug in to Twitter?"
- Matthew DeVries
I'm sorry but I think there's something you miss if you use the word "own" and "community" in the same sentence. You don't own your community, you can't and you shouldn't. Your community is a temporary aggregation of people and interests, you cant make them stay and you cant make them do anything - you can just welcome and engage and be very happy if they stayand come back.... and...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Your ideas are too McDonalds and not small town artisan organic enough. I don't think it's a good thing that a Big Mac tastes identical whether I have it in Detroit, San Fransisco, Miami, Singapore, Paris, or Tokyo. You're laying out the blueprints of "The Man"
- Matthew DeVries
I think you guys are misunderstanding my full thoughts on this. The networks you belong to still give you control to subscribe to whom you want. I still think the Social Graph (aka, who subscribes to you) should be able to originate at the blog though (note the "be able to"). I'll share more thoughts on my blog tomorrow hopefully. I'm going to sleep in the meantime.
- Jesse Stay
This is a perfect example of how it should be, http://www.sarahlane.com/. All the Sarah Lane ingredients are there, but I get to decide how I bake the bread from it. I get the Sarah Lane I want, not the Sarah Lane that Sarah Lane wants me to have.
- Matthew DeVries
And actually, you're wrong about that "the same everywhere" Blog Scoble, is very different from Twitter Scoble, from Friendfeed Scoble, from video Scoble, from TWiT guest Scoble, and I like the ability to build my own Scoble. I don't care much for Blog Scoble, don't hate it, it just didn't capture my attention. Friendfeed Scoble is my Friend, I can DM him without thinking I'm bugging a...
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- Matthew DeVries
I think each site and platform must be treated differently. No issue on streaming blog post updates but messages on microblogs must be unique or not happening in parallel to maintain communication quality (rather appear like a spam blast).
- Janette Toral
I think I get what you're saying about the whole mix-and-match approach, Mathew. What I'm suggesting is that we could do a transformation, refactoring--however one wants to phrase it--from "Blog Scoble", "Twitter Scoble", "FriendFeed Scoble", etc. into "long form essay Scoble", "quick announcement Scoble", "asynchronous chat Scoble", "location information Scoble". We can take back control from the services that wrap our content in ads or repackage it under their brand and put the focus back on the author.
- Ken Sheppardson
a nice feature of friendfeed is how easy the view can be customized by hiding some of a friend's streams
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Jesse, I've tried hard to understand what your vision is here. Have you expounded on it elsewhere outside of this current incarnation of the FF interface discussion at hand? I'm seeing MD's point as equally valid as what I'm (still) assuming the Jesse's point is -- but I'm wondering how this got on the topic of controlled parameters for the social graph one elects to expose/offer vs. a direct ocular feed into the cortex of mindless /subscribers/. (which is how I read it going to the bottom of the thread).
- Jay Cuthrell
Jay, I'm going to try and do a good blog post on my thoughts. I think you'll find that MD's points fit in nicely as well. I may just write a proof of concept and use that to explain what I'm thinking. We'll see what I have time for.
- Jesse Stay
But I don't like Blog Jesse! I like Orkut Jesse! ;)
- Matthew DeVries
Loving Facebook Lite: http://www.facebook.com/login...
Otie, Jeremy Llewellyn, Shawn Cleghorn and 7 other people liked this
loads very slowly for me. On OS X and Webkit Nightly
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Noticed that the commenting system doesn't work well yet.
- Janette Toral
Have just tried it... deception... What is the point ? What is the novelty ?
- Thierry Lhôte
Just had a look and can't delete any mail from my inbox :-( but page does contain alot less crap
- Ed Mason
The point is...no annoying applications (games).
- David
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seems a bit vague, what's this referring to?
- Mike Chelen
Facebook punk'd TechCrunch
- Glen Mistletoe
Hahhah!
- Burcu Dogan
Darn, I laughed so hard I actually cried :-D
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
Ahaha can't stop laughing!
- Olivia Lovag
I feel like I am gonna laugh at this later even more...
- Ozgur Demir
That was a love-prove from facebook to techcrunch, be punk'd by facebook is kind of privilege
- fakedave
Very funny and well played out indeed.
- Janette Toral
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