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How big is it? Can you take it with you wherever you go? - Jan Tielens

does it have audio in? my pet peeve on low-end camcorders, like flip, is that they don't have audio in. - Miiko Mentz

300 euros, so 500 bucks, seesm rather pricey - Andrew Fielding from twhirl

Yeah, the heat here in the SF Bay makes everything all strange and soft-looking - anna sauce

The colors in the East Bay sunset were incredible this evening. Real deep pinks and purples which I think were aided from fire off 580 east on the Castro Valley/Dublin grade. Looking forward to seeing your photos. - Larry Kless

Given that FriendFeed has there own message posting system you wonder whether Twitter can really differentiate with this many outages. - Rob Diana

It's as if Twitter scheduled its own Twit-Out. But FriendFeed needs some more love before it can be an outright replacement. - Jennifer Leggio

As I told Mike, I wasn't planning on using FriendFeed except for feed aggregation but now it's super-frustrating to keep trying to log into Twitter :( - Mario Sundar

@Alexander - get the mobile side sorted (mobile web and SMS) and FF can be a contender but it needs that extra support - Colin Walker

how will all my followers (over 5,000) find me here? - paul terry walhus

You nail it! - Jan Tielens

If FriendFeed gets the following that Twitter has, how do we know it won't buckle the same way? Maybe stability is ensured by being the runner up rather than the prom king. We'll have to see. I still don't think it's a replacement. - Jennifer Leggio

is it just me or does the commenting feature for FF via Twhirl suck majorly? I wrote two better comments that are now toast, thx to Twhirl (I think) - Jennifer Van Grove from twhirl

Non-early adopters are just now getting into Twitter, I don't know if they are ready for FF. - Kevin Bondelli

Jennifer L - I get the sense of security knowing that the same guys who developed Gmail and Google Maps, helped build FriendFeed. They know a thing or two about scalability. But like you said, we'll have to see. - Bwana ☠

Jennifer V.G. - It needs major improvement. I'm sticking with the website for now. - Bwana ☠

Bwana - Agreed. One other improvement - away to notify people of comments, likes, and messages directed toward them. Easy for it to get buried if you walk away for a few. - Jennifer Leggio

Twhirl will change the focus while you're typing a comment. It's absolutely ridiculous and annoying. - Rahsheen?

is this some sort of preparation for Twit-out? - Iain Baker

I think this is the Twit-Out. But Twitter just stole the power. heh. jk - Jennifer Leggio

@jason - yes the team maybe from google, but the app is built with ruby on rails. This leads to the question /debate which is not scalable RUBY or Rails ? more data here http://highscalability.com/scaling... - Peter Dawson

Twitter is really making me mad lately. Such a love/hate thing going on - Sarah Perez

@Kevin Bondelli - I'm a non adopter of Twitter and I get FF just fine. - Capn' One Eye - adrift

@Geoff Longman - I guess I am thinking about some of my friends in politics that have a hard time with it - Kevin Bondelli

Jeez - now you're just sounding paranoid - get your tin foil hat on - last time I checked MS does NOT own MY internet. - Andrew MacNeill

Andrew: really? Well, look at Facebook and what it can lock you out of. Facebook is already the largest repository of photos. Locked out. Largest repository of videos. Locked out. Largest event listing. Locked out. I'm getting tons of comments and messages in Facebook. Locked out. And Facebook has quite an interesting search and application platform. Locked out. - Robert Scoble

Is there anway we could block this, possibly via the EU or some other large organisation.. since smells like the evil empire is growing... Monopoly anyone... IS Balmer so evil? - Sebastiaan van den Akker

i really don't think that it's as bad as it seems. they'll make it open to google, et. al...... for a price, a hefty price and to stay revelant, Google will pay, while trying their hardest to push their own social networks/open networks.... - Travis Cooper

Aren't peopel tired of trying to crush sucess with the court system? It always amazes me when peopel beg gov intervene. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

@Sebastiaan van den Akker as much as we don't like something, using the EU or other such governments/government organizations is always a bad thing. in capitalism, owners enter into contracts voluntarily, as do customers... if folks don't like being walled off from google and the rest of the web (which i'm not convinced will happen) then that's their choice. it's the free market. if it... more... - Travis Cooper

Travis: ask @irinaslutsky what Facebook is like dealing with. She got kicked off last week. - Robert Scoble

Frankly it scares me when people try and confiscate property with the EU or US justice dept. The peopel who built facebook own it. Why can't they sell it if they please? Why build somethign if you have to beg the EU to let you profit from it? Horrifying. "You built it, now we will take control of it from you, thanks! Now go do more work for us" - Soulhuntre from twhirl

@Soulhuntre totally agree brother. let the free market do it's magic. getting any government involved is always a bad thing, if even in the short term it appears to help. - Travis Cooper

The really funny thing is that many of those who want the courts involved where MS is concerned are the first to say the courts don't understand the tech sector when it comes to copyright. Which is it? Do we want the courts messing with tech or not? - Soulhuntre from twhirl

I don't want the courts involved here. If we all want to crawl into a locked up Web we deserve what we get. - Robert Scoble

I don't think government internvention is always a bad thing, it just prevents large companies such as google and microsoft in particular from becoming to powerful. Not to prevent capitalism or the free market system from happening. MS just want to get Yahoo & Facebook to get some of the internet action. MS live search isn't really succes and neither does ms have a facebook clone, so what does it do, its just buys it. I just don't want total control of the web to end up in ms, the whole desktop os market - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Many of us are not IN a locked up web. Facebook could evaporat still work, the routers woudl still route, IP addresses would still be there. Honestly, the "web" is not in peril. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

even if MS buys FB and keep it closed, it wont matter they will loose in the END its just a matter of time... closed systems just dont work anymore even if you have MILLIONS of users, they eventually want freedom. That's why MS won against IBM.... you think they would learn that lesson. It's why GOOGLE has made android so open... its just a matter of time people. FB actions of late are desp attempts to keep control. - Ismail D

they ownis more than enough. They shoudn't own everything envolved with tech. Not to say the ms makes really bad products, I really like xbox... but that about it. Sorry about the two comments... - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Sounds a bit steep, but a good wake up and heads up. - Daniel Glifberg

Spelling sucks. I'm gonna waste my 15 minutes with bad punctuation. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

In the current state of business models this could be a concern, however users won't accept a totally closed system. Today, users have a much louder voice and they won't tolerate MSFT as big brother. Eventually, users will shift to another source or figure out a way to cross pollinate desired content to other sources like FF or ones that have yet to be created. There was a time when people believed the world was flat until Columbus proved otherwise. This is a debate which will continue, to be sure... - Fred Neil

Fred: users already LOVE Facebook. I think you don't hang out with enough people and don't have access to the usage stats. - Robert Scoble

unlike monopolies on physical goods (oil, gas, etc) internet websites don't have control over people or things that can affect your physical safety and security. everything on the web, like joining facebook, using google search, using gmail.... all of that is voluntary, and there are tons of alternatives out there.... granted, they may not be as good, etc, but that's the free market - Travis Cooper

Since when is the Internet = Facebook and search? How can Microsoft shut down my internet connection? - Jan Tielens

Jan: Facebook erased me from access to my photos, videos, contacts, social graph, etc. -- you'll get it someday. - Robert Scoble

Facebook is not the internet, but it's something many people _see_ as the internet. Something that for a lot of people is 90% of the value they get from the internet. Stop thinking in boxes. Of course you have your data elsewhere. But 99% of the other users haven't. - sebmos

I am not ignoring the impact here. That is, IF MS turned it into a black hole (unlikely)... but peopel woudl simply move to something else. It woudl take time, and it woudl suck for them... but the very existence of the Internet is NOT in peril. hell, folks used to say the same thign about AOL. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

Robert: I wouldn't consider FB as a good place to store photos, videos etc; I keep them in Flickr AND I keep them offline (worst case scenario backup). FB (and others) can be a nice platform to show off and share that kind of media, but it's not the "source" of that media. Of course you've got a point with the social graph; Outlook contacts alone are not enough... - Jan Tielens

With AOL the situation was different. Cable vs. broadband is a different value proposition than MySpace vs. Facebook. And here we have the better example. Facebook is way better in every way than MySpace. Still, very little MySpace-users actually migrate away. MySpace is the more profitable company, and they're way bigger. MySpace is crap, still people use it. People won't move away unless they're forced to. - sebmos

Yeah, people may not migrate to Facebook from Myspace, but if microsoft turns Facebook into Facebook Live, I for sure will never use it again... Hotmail was good when it first hit the market, but now... it just slows down your browser... and they call it live mail.. but it not live at all, just slow... - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Sebmos: Yeah, that's the reason why I spend more time on FriendFeed than on FB; FriendFeed is just an outlet for my content on Flickr, Twitter, my blogs etc. While FB promotes to store data in the FB cloud. That's also the reason why I don't like commenting on FriendFeed a lot, they are only stored in FriendFeed... - Jan Tielens

agreed with jan, sebmos, cyvros, the internet is NOT facebook. Maybe it's 'your' internet Scoble, but i've got nothing on FB nor do any of my friends, the small group that even uses social networks uses Hyves (it's dutch). So i could care less if they bought it. However i can see how you would care if you invested your whole online social life in Facebook... - Mark Jenniskens

one more thing, HTTP is protocol, nobody can shut off access to a protocol. The only thing FB can do is shut off acces to data people have put on FB (wich is bad thing but an other discussion). - Mark Jenniskens

@scoble - I think there's some hyperbole there... I mean, do you honestly believe that Facebook == The Internet? If MS is dumb enough to spend $20billion on facebook, sure it may get access to some google free content. But, in this respect, is it diff't than AOL? AOL even actually controlled it's customers access to the web. No one's much worried about them now... - felix

@cyvros/fyc Thx, that was exactly my point. If you invest all your online activity, data etc in one place, that place becomes 'the internet' for you. But saying FB is 'the internet' or has anything to do with HTTP is just plain wrong. Scoble tried to make a good point but didn't do it very well with the 'the internet' and HTTP comparison. - Mark Jenniskens

Interesting speculation. I'll go on record once again saying that I've ben far from a Microsoft fan ever since I've been aware of Microsoft. Ditto for Facebook - I recognized its evil from the start and have never given FB exclusive access to any of my data. Google is not exactly Mother Theresa, but Google is 10x better to envision as a future overlord than Microsoft. Microsoft does what it does because they still have not evolved their business model, and will find it increasingly difficult to do so. - Tinfoil 2.0