I reshare this to Ideas & Inspiration room :) These are so realistic!
- Kristian Salonen
I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:)
- Roney Smith
I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right!
- Jasmin Smith
you cannot win on the interwebs. draw some crap it doesn't get noticed. draw something amazing in pencil and people say it's not real.
- Joe Breen
I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too.
- Michael Fidler
from fftogo
Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks!
- Michael Fidler
Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo.
- Chris Loft
These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them?
- Shannon Jiménez
Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-)
- Michael Fidler
Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good.
- Burçak Çubukçu
I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close!
- Michael Fidler
Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing.
- Michael Fidler
@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-)
- Michael Fidler
@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks
- LouCypher
WOW "I can't believe it's in pencil"
- sofarsoShawn
LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that.
- Michael Fidler
nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :)
- hasin hayder
I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes...
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- Michael Fidler
Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these!
- LaFern Cusack
Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009...
- Michael Fidler
Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set.
- Michael Fidler
Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists.
- Kol Tregaskes
Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ...
- Linda Zeek-Bobinski
Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package.
- The Wimp
A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store,
- Melanie Reed
Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice...
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- Michael Fidler
Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have...
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- Michael Fidler
Once again, I made the mistake of being the first poster on a "it's my birthday!" Facebook status update and I'm paying the price. PS Facebook: just because I "like" something doesn't mean I want to be a part of the conversation that follows.
I am slowly learning not to click like in FB.
- Mike Nencetti
Well the paradox is, I actually do want email notifications for some things. But usually not on ones I "like".
- Paul Reynolds
And then there's the Happy Birthday thing. I wished there was a little link that appeared beside the Delete link in my comment that would let me not get notifications for that thread. Maybe "Mute"?
- Paul Reynolds
Under the notification settings, you can turn off email notifications for things that you just "like". It's really fine-grained control, actually. All it's missing is the ability to toggle updates on or off for a particular item.
- James (@willia4)
I saw the bajillion notification settings, but nothing pertaining to like?
- Paul Reynolds
Google is claiming that their DNS service will make web browsing "faster". I call shenanigans. Here are the benchmarks using ns_bench (http://pflog.net/ns_bench/) for OpenDNS versus Google DNS.
I've been using OpenDNS exclusively for the last few years. Never had a problem.
- Beau Liening
OpenDNS is faster in all instances. And that's with value added services like filtering and typo correction.
- Jason Huebel
This isn't about competition for Google, really. This is about collecting more data about users' Internet activity. There will be people who switch to Google DNS full-time. Google will be able to collect more extensive information about those individuals (and potentially companies) activity on the net.
- Jason Huebel
Especially when Chrome OS comes out Google will win all of that market share to their DNS, as it will probably be the default on the OS. More information about people's activities without them even realizing it!
- Steven Nay
Maybe it's my craptastic router giving out, but I find it often needs to re-lookup sites it /just/ had, like, a second ago. Literally; I will open up two tabs, one loads and the other says "Firefox can't find [site]". (or is the TTL around a millisecond?) It's been on OpenDNS for a year now.
- Andrew C
@Steven, Chrome OS /should/ use your network's DHCP settings. If it doesn't honor the DHCP settings, then they'll break all kinds of things (particularly on corporate networks). I would be against forcing Google DNS to be the default on Chrome OS.
- Jason Huebel
And since Google is touting their DNS as standards compliant, I would think they would remain standards compliant with DHCP as well.
- Jason Huebel
Also, regarding DNS caching, your OS does local caching. I don't know the TTL for local caching, though. It's definitely much longer than 1ms.
- Jason Huebel
Hmm... could be. I vaguely recall switching settings on my computer last year when I got it, and those could have been wiped out in the upgrade to Win 7.
- Andrew C
@Andrew, most routers do DNS caching on their end. some even intercept DNS requests. if the DNS server in your router (usually dnsmasq) is buggy, this might be causing your problems. try setting your DNS on your machine by hand to 4.2.2.4 (anycast DNS, it picks any random DNS server)
- mjc
also, I get 60ms to google's DNS and 30ms to 4.2.2.4
- mjc
Ah, should have read above. Didn't know about anycast DNS.
- Jason Huebel
from Android
At D-Link we used to use 4.2.2.2. I was told it was a Comcast server.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
it's not. it's primarily hosted by level3 and managed by verizon, but the machines connected to it are using anycast and not only from VZ or on level3's networks.
- mjc
Bryce, I would think there wouldn't be any overseas DNS that would work better than your local ISP, simply because of the limited (relatively speaking) bandwidth you folks have to the rest of the world. Honestly, unless your ISP runs DNS on ancient hardware, it's highly unlikely Google's DNS will be faster just because of latency alone.
- Jason Huebel
It's all fun and games until your new Windows 7 install doesn't recognize your wireless adapter and you can't find it in your list of devices and you can't remember what it's called so you can go download the right drivers.
Maybe if I drink enough wine and listen to enough Lady Gaga it will come to me.
- Veronica
heh. in those cases popping the case open is usually my first resort. unless the case is a pain and a half to open, in which case i try to remember what i put in it first :)
- Carlos Urrutia
It's in a pain in the ass spot, but I guess I have no choice.
- Veronica
Ok i did this on Video capture card, i didnt have the cd or anything Did you try this for, Go to the Device manager in the CP find the yellow question mark device thats not working, right click it and select update your decivce online, Windows 7 found the drivers for my capture card and installed them automatically.
- Fee501st
did you by any chance make a text file on your drive with what you put in your pc/laptop?
- Carlos Urrutia
I'm running a cable to temporarily fix the issue. a Very long cable.
- Veronica
This your Gaming PC? I'm still on XP on mine
- Fee501st
you know, you just made me realize that the only computing device that I have hooked up to my router via ethernet is my pc, everything else i.e. game consoles, are wireless.
- Carlos Urrutia
using ethernet sharing from the MBP for now to get the drivers, it can't seem to find the drivers for the wireless device.
- Veronica
I guess its time to get screwdriver and flashlight :( or put off if the cable isn't a trip hazard hehe
- Fee501st
I have only 3 PCs on cable because i do alot file transfers between the 3, my gaming PC is wireless N, the rest are laptops
- Fee501st
once i get my laptop tomorrow, that will go between ethernet cable and wireless depending on whether or not i need the extra bandwidth.
- Carlos Urrutia
heh. i got a nice case that uses thumbscrews so its not a pain in the butt to open :)
- Carlos Urrutia
my motto is soon as i put the screws in, something will break!
- Fee501st
V, you might want to put that information that you just acquired on a text file on a thumbdrive or portable game console so that you have it handy next time :)
- Carlos Urrutia
I suppose you tried using any driver detector like RadarSync? Even if not free can give you the intel (sorry, had to read this in Gmail hehe, two words a line aka 80px, can't read all comments)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Yea, i think there was TZ daily tip that printed out all your hardware your pc has in it.
- Fee501st
although i say that is kind odd watching yourself telling you something that you forgot, thats some memento shit right there!
- Fee501st
Fee: I'll upload pictures of my laptop tomorrow :) Now, how the hell am I going to copy all that stuff I have on Picassa from my pc to the laptop, hmm.....
- Carlos Urrutia
It will most likely involve ethernet though :) YAY! GIGABIT! :)
- Carlos Urrutia
Well, the install went fine, except I accidentally deleted all my Dragon Age saved games. At least I beat it last night!!
- Veronica
a successful install is always good. too bad about the saves, but at least you managed to beat the game before that. would have sucked if you were just before the final battle and that happened.
- Carlos Urrutia
Even after working perfect for months, one fine day keyboard and mouse on my laptop stopped responding. It was trying time to place desktop devices on laptops and installing the drivers by searching - trial and error.
- Nitin Nanivadekar
Hey Veronica, I was thinking about your lost DAO saves Did you have steam installed on different drive or partition then windows? And install Windows 7? Because you can just click on the steam.exe and all your games will be there, it just resets them, your saves might be in there if you dig around! I did this with HL:EP2 when i went from XP to Vista back to XP, the saves where there i just had to find them and copy them over.
- Fee501st
Nope, steam was installed on the partition that I installed Windows 7 on. And yes, I delete my Windows.old folder as well. La de da!
- Veronica
at least she beat the game before that happened.
- Carlos Urrutia
I made a mistake when i installed Windows 7 also, I though i had everything backup and i hit the format drive, then i forgot to backup my iphone apps dir in itunes! Last week i finnaly got them all downloaded!
- Fee501st
did you end up doing a fresh install of WoW when you installed W7 or did you just copy setting over?
- Carlos Urrutia
i don't know that anyone has been hacked as in "passwords have been compromised." but from what i understand, it's trivial to post a tweet as someone else.
- tiffany
OV101 - the grandaddy of'em all named after our favorite starship (one of them anyway). unfortunately it never flew. this looks like an amazing place. i'd like to go one day.
- Carlos Ayala
She flew. She just never flew in space or under her own power. Looked beautiful, gliding off the back of a carrier plane with her engine cowlings in place. http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/lucenew...
- Slappy Line
Slippy, I have a new nerd respect for you. Thanks for the link. :-)
- Jason Huebel
I was a complete shuttle-geek back then. Well, I didn't really know of it's existence until Columbia first flew (I think I was 9 or 10 at the time), but I then sought out every bit of info I could find on it - no mean feat in the early eighties. The one image that stuck in my mind most though was that one of the Enterprise, so it was kind of a cool feeling to be able to find it and view it again :-)
- Slappy Line
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Dear 16 year old Social Media Expert... Just because I don't use Twitter doesn't mean I don't get it OR understand it, especially since you have only had your account for 9 months (and me almost 3 years).. When I started using the Internet, you were just barely out of your daddy's ballsack...Thanks for playing...
I don't mind talking about it with him, but I have seen things rise and fall... Geocities shut down on Monday and he didn't even know what it was.
- Johnny Worthington
OoooooooooooOuch ....i been on the da net since '91 ,, had a US Robotics 28.8 Modem card .. wish I could find the damn thing .. hooked into my 3.1 Windows ... ouchhhhhhh Im Old
- johnpiercy
28.8?? Pffft... I remember using a 300 baud modem to connect to Compuserve back in the early 80s. :P LOL
- Chrimmus Tad
age shouldn't matter, but i don't know what was said so...
- ffcode
Age does matter in this case. Lecturing me on the future of the Internet without paying any attention to anything older than 4 years is just youthful arrogance.
- Johnny Worthington
there are a few things that need to be kept in mind like i am no expert and i should respect the older folks for they are the ones who have seen evolution
- ffcode
I learn something new on the Internet ..every single day .. too those that say they know it all .. you dont know DIDDLY ,,
- johnpiercy
Age matters when it comes to experience like this. A 16 year old who has been online for a year simply isn't going to compare to someone 20 years older who has been using computers since *they* were 16.
- Rochelle
I certainly don't claim to know everything... In fact my point to him was even with my experience, I can not see the future in such clear terms as he does. A lot of things were declared 'dead', 'winner' and 'evergreen' that have faded.
- Johnny Worthington
true one shouldn't make claims unless he she is Scoble or Gray :)
- ffcode
I had a 300 baud modem in 1983 attached to my Commodore Vic-20. I shudder at the memory of how slow that thing was...
- Joey Gibson
+1 Joey. We did, too. I remember having to pick up the phone and set the receiver down on top of the modem box. What fun.
- Curtiss Grymala
That's what makes me giggle about Twitter... Think of all the speed increases we have had. I think I know the modem 'song' by heart. Remember how it took 25 minutes to get an MP3 on Napster, now it takes seconds... After all that, and what that speed could deliver, the hotest thing on the net now is 140 character text messages...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
You are truly old school. Way to show that young whipper snapper.
- Joe
because google is also character/keyword based and work on words rather than audio,video or any multimedia same thing makes me love twitter, there aren't search algorithms to look into images or flash, audio, video, google made a small step forward by having that similar images thing work
- ffcode
we still rely on title,description and tags to sort media
- ffcode
300 baud? What a luxury. I remember having to sneakernet each byte manually from one computer to another.
- LogEx
Our Hamilton PC Users Group circa (1998) , brought in PC's to a church basement prior to highpeed to teach seniors computing , very few people had highspeed ,, I did the newsletter in Publisher 97 (handouts ) ,, my Dad (RIP) is the reason Im a geek and built my first PC ,,,, wonder what he would say now about all the innovations
- johnpiercy
Most of my current Mp3 collection are from the Napster days ... wow .. were old >>>>
- johnpiercy
"sneakernet each byte manually" - Pfft. Son, do you know how hard it is to compute using only rocks, Mammoth bones, and papyrus? My first Tweets were in Cuneiform on clay tablets. I remember being thrilled to be able to Tweet on an 80-character Hollerith field punchcard machine - we thought we were something! Now, you whippersnappers GET OFF MAH LAWN! ;)
- John Craft
My dad used to bring home used punch cards from the computers at his office. We would use them as note paper. He's old-school. You guys are just a bunch of young punks. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
I don't trust any "social media expert" who can't explain the differences, if any, between a MUD, MOO, MUCK, and MUSH and why they're relevant collectively. Extra props if they can explain "Brigadoon Day"
- Ken Sheppardson
And heck, anybody at all who calls themselves an "Expert" would be well served to spend a little time understanding the Dreyfus model of skill acquisition - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Ken Sheppardson
I have a profit strategy for twitter: Pay to change your join date, double the cost per month. $1 for 1 month, $2 for 2 months, $16 for 5 months... That's $8M per user to bump the lie back by 24 months!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Speaking of sneakernets and Napster - when I was a college freshman in 1999 I bought a 150 megabyte zip drive just so I could sneakernet ISOs from our computer lab down the hall to my non-wired dorm room. I distinctly remember splitting a new operating system ISO up into 4-5 disks or so and then shuttling it one disc at a time back to the room. We also abused the free inkjet :D
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Oh right, Napster... I did the Zip shuttle thing with MP3s too.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Johnny, 25 minutes for a song on Napster? It used to take me 45! I remember going from 28.8 to 56k, and it was like WHOA SO FAST.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
+100 to Ken for the MOO references. Personally I spent most of my time on TInyMUSEs (and did a little development with it too). Those were the good ol' days.
- Jason Huebel
"My first Tweets were in Cuneiform on clay tablets." I would like this on a t-shirt, please. Size 5x. :)
- Steven Perez
Oh, and for the record: punchcards, reel-to-reel tapes and IBM 3270s. The ones with the ashtray embedded on the keyboard.
- Steven Perez
My first tweets were smoke signals :p
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Show how to create a PDF from any application without third-party utilities
- James (@willia4)
Show how to Force Quit an app. Hey, sometimes things beachball.
- James (@willia4)
Show how the "Hide" function works. This is a killer feature for me!
- James (@willia4)
Show how to download a DMG, install the software from it, eject the volume, and trash the dmg file. This is a really unintuitive way to ship software, but it gets used a lot.
- James (@willia4)
Talk up Time Machine, though I'm not taking my drive so I won't do a demo.
- James (@willia4)
Drag some folders into the Dock as stacks. Stacks are a nifty gee-whiz feature to round things out.
- James (@willia4)
And that's it. What do you think? Am I missing anything?
- James (@willia4)
I'm tempted to boot up VMWare and show how there's not a single Windows app I really miss. But I'm afeared of what that would do to my battery.
- James (@willia4)
Looks great man! Looking forward to Saturday.
- Michael Carnell
well Friendfeed is looking a bit pale these days. Not the same kind of party as before. So I would say Friendfeed : Dead, Scoble : Alive
- Mark O'Neill
Wait, so now this whole "FriendFeed is dead" thing turns out to be a pissing contest between "social media experts"? Nice. I guess 7th-grade lunchroom antics are some folk's idea of fun.
Might I take this opporunity to suggest that Robert Scoble, Jesse Stay, et al, go find something better to do with their time than screw around with other people's outlet for fun and conversation. They can start by taking a long walk off a short pier and hug an octopus.
- Steven Perez
Good luck with that, Steven...they get paid well to screw around with other people's outlets for fun and conversation. Too well to just stop and do something else.
- Alex Scoble
My social media presence is bigger thqn yours. And if it's not, it's bc *that* social media is dead. So there. /takes toys, goes home.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
I guess it's time to start blocking these weasels, then. Since they obviously have nothing better to do.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wait - why is my name being thrown around in this? I post one thing yesterday and it's a "bitchfest"? And who is calling themselves a "social media expert"?
- Jesse Stay
Steven: go ahead. It won't help the fact that traffic is way down here and that engagement is way down too. Even this post would have gotten 100 likes three months ago. After all, nothing better for engagement than to call a Scoble an idiot.
- Robert Scoble
Stop refering to yourself in the third person narrative
- Mark
from iPhone
Mark: well, there's two of us here at least. Sometimes three. Sometimes four. And it always works to get engagement. Just watch what happens when I call Alex an idiot! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Calling Jesse an idiot won't do much for you though :-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert, your engagement argument doesn't hold water. I get almost ZERO engagement on Twitter.
- Alex Scoble
Oh, I'm sorry, Jesse and Robert. I guess you two machines of hype missed the whole "ignoring you for all time" vibe I was putting off. I guess when you're so used to the sound of your own voices, you miss the easy things early. Like how, despite many protestations to the contrary, there were those of us who very early saw this sad state happening. But that's OK. I guess missing the easy stuff is de rigueur for you social media types.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And now that you know, I'll go and you can continue your entertaining little circle jerk.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm still confused how I got pulled into this
- Jesse Stay
Alex: I haven't called you an idiot on Twitter...yet.
- Robert Scoble
(I was going to comment, but I'll just sit back and watch the brouhaha... ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
Although I do admit I kind of like being called a "machine of hype". Never been called anything like that before. Sounds manly.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, I haven't called you an idiot on friendfeed...yet...today. ;)
- Alex Scoble
Robert wanted me to let you know he's blocked Steven just to save him the time. I think I'll do the same (although I still don't know why I got pulled into this).
- Jesse Stay
Stephen seems to be AFK at the moment
- Alex Scoble
Actually, I was washing the dishes. *reads above* See, kids? This is how you get social media people out of your threads. No profanity, no physical threats, no intimidation - just refer to their life's work as juvenile, and BAM! Instant block. Even when you're busy doing other things. That says something, I guess, but I'm really not sure what.
- Steven Perez
Steven, just let me know 1-1 if I ever cross the line. :)
- Louis Gray
Why don't we get more "Amazon Mechanical Jerk" threads around here?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
you should me my peepee stream, it's the REAL fire hose, no what I'm say'n?
- sofarsoShawn
Click http://google.org/flutrends for the real-time app. We've found that certain search terms are good indicators of flu activity. Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity in your state up to two weeks faster than traditional systems.
- Mitchell Tsai
Studies indicate that between 35 and 40 percent of all visits to the Internet are begun by people looking for health information. When people are sick, they tend to look up their symptoms.
- Mitchell Tsai
Google Flu Trends uses search terms that people put into the Web-based search engine to figure out where influenza is heating up, and notify the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in real time. Google is keeping the search terms it uses private, but influenza-like illnesses include symptoms such as fever, muscle aches and cough. Sneezing usually occurs with other viruses such as rhinoviruses.
- Mitchell Tsai
"One thing we found last year when we validated this model is it tended to predict surveillance data," Finelli said.
- Mitchell Tsai
"The data are really, really timely. They were able to tell us on a day-to-day basis the relative direction of flu activity for a given area. They were about a week ahead of us. They could be used ... as early warning signal for flu activity."
- Mitchell Tsai
Influenza kills an estimated 36,000 people a year in the United States and 250,000-500,000 globally.
- Mitchell Tsai
Experts are keen to track flu activity in case of a pandemic -- a global epidemic of a new and deadly strain of flu that could kill millions within a few months.
- Mitchell Tsai
i hear the Google Flu is not as bad as it sounds, though... ;)
- edythe
but seriously, mitchell, this is awesome.
- edythe
Polly: I love this idea of using Google (and/or social networks)'s knowledge of what people are interested in to benefit society (and not just whether we're going to be terrorists). I'd love to see similar efforts in monitoring (1) what cancer patients are looking at for cures/treatments (2) what kids & adults are interested in (3) popular exciting travel spots
- Mitchell Tsai
How can we move "news" to the next generation past (a) Digg/Reedit (b) Google News (c) Disqus/Google Reader/FriendFeed (d) Flickr/picture-sharing (e) Wikipedia. The "Google Flu monitoring" seems to be the 1st jump in bringing data-mining of social networks to new usefulness. What if we had a service which took "50 pages in Wikipedia most active" combined with some "educational benefit" metric to inform us about newly active topics?
- Mitchell Tsai
Twitter/Summize combo kicks-butt for monitoring real-time events (1) earthquakes (2) elections... but it's still a huge swamp of info. Could services like "Google Flu Trends" pull out 100 interesting topics from all the Twitter traffic? (kind of big-brother for a good purpose)
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Brian. Nice flu articles. Many nations' leaders spend money REAL fast when faced with possible pandemics. They're not stupid...
- Mitchell Tsai
Gregory, the profit margin on vaccines is actually quite low, which is why the pharmaceutical companies aren't inclined to produce tons of it. The influenza virus changes its genetic make-up every year, forcing the vaccine makers to anticipate what strain will be predominant, and sometimes the vaccine makers guess wrong.
- Victor Ganata
http://reason.com/news... "In the past three decades, the number of vaccine manufacturers in America has plummeted, as the industry has been flooded with lawsuits." He added. "Today, there is only one manufacturer in the United States that can produce influenza vaccine." Since 1967 the number of American vaccine manufacturers has dropped from 26 to just 4 today. The problem...
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- Mitchell Tsai
...another example of how medical & legal reform are so closely intertwined...
- Mitchell Tsai
Tough world of profits http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2... (Good) Net product sales for the year ended December 31, 2005, increased 12 percent, or $155 million, compared to the year ended December 31, 2004, primarily due to $96 million in sales of FLUVIRIN vaccine in 2005, compared to $2 million in sales of FLUVIRIN vaccine in 2004, which related to late sales from the 2003-2004 influenza season.
- Mitchell Tsai
(Bad) As previously reported, in the year ended December 31, 2004, the entire FLUVIRIN vaccine product inventory was written off, resulting in a $91 million charge to cost of sales. No sales of BEGRIVAC influenza virus vaccine in 2005 due to a product sterility issue
- Mitchell Tsai
http://jhsph.edu/publich... It’s important to point out that the current vaccine crisis is an extreme example of what’s wrong with the vaccine supply system in the United States. Many people are quick to criticize industry, but making flu vaccine is really difficult.
- Mitchell Tsai
Companies do not receive the virus strains for the vaccine until March. They are expected, on a very tight timeline, to get an egg supply, grow the vaccine and have it ready to ship by September or October. They charge anywhere from $8 to $22 a dose, which is not a large profit margin.
- Mitchell Tsai
http://weeklystandard.com/Content...http://qando.net/details... Why is it that 100 percent of our flu vaccines are now made by two companies in Europe? Chiron was scheduled to supply 46 million of the 100 million doses to be administered in the United States this year. The other 54 million will come from Aventis Pasteur, a French company with headquarters in Strasbourg. ---- Trial lawyers drove the American manufacturers out of the business.
- Mitchell Tsai
Today there are only four that make any type of vaccine and none making flu vaccine. Wyeth was the last to fall, dropping flu shots after 2002. For recently emerging illnesses such as Lyme disease, there is no commercial vaccine, even though one has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
- Mitchell Tsai
All this is the result of a legal concept called "liability without fault" that emerged from the hothouse atmosphere of the law schools in the 1960s and became the law of the land. Under the old "negligence" regime, you had to prove a product manufacturer had done something wrong in order to hold it liable for damages.
- Mitchell Tsai
Under liability without fault, on the other hand, the manufacturer can be held responsible for harm from its products, whether blameworthy or not. Add to that the jackpot awards that come from pain-and-suffering and punitive damages, and you have a legal climate that no manufacturer wants to risk.
- Mitchell Tsai
In theory, prices might have been jacked up enough to make vaccine production profitable even with the lawsuit risk, but federal intervention made vaccines a low-margin business. Before 1993, manufacturers sold vaccines to doctors, doctors prescribed them to patients, and there was some markup. Then Congress adopted the Vaccine for Children Act, which made the government a monopsony...
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- Mitchell Tsai
As recently as 1980, 18 American companies made eight different vaccines for various childhood diseases. Today, four companies--GlaxoSmithKline, Aventis, Merck, and Wyeth--make 12 vaccines. Of the 12, seven are made by only one company and only one is made by more than two. "There are constant shortages," says Dr. Paul Offit, head of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital...
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- Mitchell Tsai
The intersection between mass vaccinations and the tort system was bound to be messy. When you vaccinate enough people, someone, somewhere, is going to have a bad reaction. You could give a glass of milk to 100 million people and a few would inevitably get violently sick from it.
- Mitchell Tsai
The first instance of this came in 1955 with polio vaccinations. Cutter Laboratories, the California company that now distributes Cutter's Insect Repellent, made an early batch of vaccines, some of which had live viruses in them. Almost all the children in Idaho were administered the vaccine and several dozen contracted polio.
- Mitchell Tsai
The jury found Cutter's actions were not negligent--the orders had been rushed, standards had not been clear, and safety precautions were still rudimentary at the time. But, using the new doctrine of liability without fault, the jury held Cutter accountable anyway and awarded $147,300. "That decision made Ralph Nader possible," Belli later claimed.
- Mitchell Tsai
"It was a turning point," says Dr. Offit, whose book The Cutter Incident will be published next year. "Because of the Cutter decision, vaccines became one of the first medical products to be eliminated by lawsuits."
- Mitchell Tsai
Yale Law Journal published an article arguing that insurance against adverse reactions was the solution. Unfortunately, this thesis failed to anticipate how high damage awards would go.
- Mitchell Tsai
WHEN AN UNUSUAL EPIDEMIC occurred in 1976, the federal government decided to vaccinate the whole country against the new "swine flu." To the astonishment of Congress, the insurance companies refused to participate. The Congressional Budget Office predicted that with 45 million Americans inoculated, there would be 4,500 injury claims and 90 damage awards, totaling $2 million. Congress decided to provide the insurance.
- Mitchell Tsai
As Peter Huber recounts in his book Liability, the CBO's first estimate proved uncannily accurate. A total of 4,169 damage claims were filed. However, not 90 but more than 700 suits were successful and the total bill to Congress came to over $100 million, 50 times what the CBO had predicted. The insurance companies knew their business well.
- Mitchell Tsai
Adding to the problem are the predictable panics about vaccines that spread among parents and are abetted by trial lawyers. In 1974, a British researcher published a paper claiming that the vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) had caused seizures in 36 children, leading to 22 cases of epilepsy or mental retardation.
- Mitchell Tsai
Subsequent studies proved the claim to be false, but in the meantime Japan canceled inoculations, resulting in 113 preventable whooping cough deaths. In the United States, 800 pertussis vaccine lawsuits asking $21 million in damages were filed over the next decade. The cost of a vaccination went from 21 cents to $11.
- Mitchell Tsai
Every American drug company dropped pertussis vaccine except Lederle Laboratories. In 1980, Lederle lost a liability suit for the paralysis of a three-month-old infant--even though there was almost no evidence implicating the vaccine. Lederle's damages were $1.1 million, more than half its gross revenues from sale of the vaccine for that entire year.
- Mitchell Tsai
In 1998, the FDA approved a vaccine for Lyme disease, which strikes 15,000 people a year. GlaxoSmithKline manufactured it for three years but quit when rumors began circulating that the vaccine caused arthritis.
- Mitchell Tsai
Each year in February, the Centers for Disease Control meets with the vaccine-makers--all two of them--and decides which strain of the virus to anticipate for next year. Then they both make the same vaccine. Last year the committee bet on the Panama strain, but a rogue "Fujian" strain suddenly emerged as a surprise invader. A mini-epidemic resulted and 93 children died, only two of them properly vaccinated.
- Mitchell Tsai
Whether doctors are quitting the profession because of an out-of-control tort system, whether malpractice premiums are the cause of health care increases--such hardy perennials of the litigation debate are still a subject of lively controversy. But with vaccines there is no argument. Trial lawyers have all but ruined the market. Yet they are still unwilling to take responsibility.
- Mitchell Tsai
What is frustrating about all this is that vaccination is such an easy intervention, and so many lives have been saved with near-universal vaccination against childhood diseases. When you do the cold-hard calculus comparing the number of adverse events versus the number of deaths prevented, it definitely seems worth it. Unfortunately, the mathematics of the legal and economic end of things don't agree.
- Victor Ganata
Thanks Mitchell.. mind if I write this up for GoogleTutor?
- Phil G
Victor: (A) It seems "right" that people might be compensated for dying due to a vaccine. (B) However, when a drug company's entire profit margin can be wiped out by 2 lawsuits, how can you do business? (C) We might look to the Japanese legal system which sets maximum damages. Or just ask people to "suck up". If you die due to vaccine (and it's not the manufacturers fault), that's the risk you take for the possible protection.
- Mitchell Tsai
Phil: Feel free to write this for Google Tutor (what's that?). Journalistic disclaimer: I haven't triple-checked my sources... :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
Similar question: If we go to a surgeon for a 95% effective surgery, do we sue the doctor for the 5% deaths? ---- Another industry with a different answer (Employee injuries): In worker's comp, people decided that employers will pay for everything, to save the legal fees from deciding everything in court. Thus, a homeowner would be liable for a mailman slipping on their icy driveway.
- Mitchell Tsai
In terms of malpractice, pain and suffering caps seem to be preventing physicians from fleeing the state of California. Is it a different kind of tort law that pharmaceutical companies are subject to, or would such a thing apply?
- Victor Ganata
Currently, the answer is that, yes, the surgeon can get sued for those deaths, even if he/she did everything right. The answer clearly lies in limiting the damages awarded.
- Victor Ganata
The case for the tort system causing physician discontent is pretty minimal, at least if you're practicing in a state that has pain and suffering caps. There are a lot of other reasons why docs are throwing in the towel.
- Victor Ganata
"Now, 17-year-old Elden is a high school student, who told MTV News last year that "it's kind of creepy [to think] that that many people have seen me naked — I feel like I'm the world's biggest porn star." "
- mjc
"He references it when trying to pick up ladies, he said: "I have to use stupid pickup lines like, 'You want to see my p---s ... again?' "
- mjc
For the purposes of this tweet, I did roll a d20 and it did come up 4. I was unimpressed. I think I'll get up anyway. The floor will not vacuum itself.
- James (@willia4)
Matthew, I tend to not have the experience or talent for most of those (nothing worse that bidding a job and having it take 4x longer than it should). And 9000, the ad that prompted this post specified the worker had to be in the area, not a telecommute or outsource. And for here, that job won't happen for $12 an hour.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You haven't seen nothing in Florida they pay crap for designers.
- orionstarr
from iPhone
It's hysterical some of the postings I see everyday...Employers are really trying to get one person to do a job of 5 people and pay them garbage.
- orionstarr
You know what I hate? Web dev jobs that require a BS in Computer Science because *surprise, surprise* they want you to also do their IT tasks! They don't specify that you need mad programming skillz which I would understand needing a BS in CS for, but specify handling IT support calls and dealing with ppl's computer problems. WTF?
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I hear you it makes me just want to get out of computer work all together. Not that I am in it right now lol..
- orionstarr
They might be able to get a college kid to do it for that rate. They don't know how much stuff should cost. But yeah, the posts that get me are the ones that call for a BS in Comp Sci, or even a Master's and 5+ years experience and then give you the title of Jr. Developer and want to pay you 30K/yr. LOL!
- Fa La La La Lindsay