as a libertarian, its his choice as to who is his running mate...as a human being i am unashamedly embarrassed by her, she has done more the prospects of the Democratic party than one could have imagined
- David Blumenstein
from twhirl
Sarah Palin is on the wrong side of libertarians, traditional conservatives, traditional Republicans, traditional Americanism, traditional liberals, traditional Christians, etc. The Republican Party has been hijacked by neoconservatives, religious extremists, Judeo-Christian fascists, Dominionists, etc. who have launched an all-out assault on every basic American value. The Republican Party may not survive the experience. She is basically George W. Bush in skirts.
- Sean McBride
Gotta disagree, I'm old school republican, small government-low taxes, and I'm 100% for Palin
- Daltonsbriefs
Sigh. Less government I guess includes abusing your powers as governor of Alaska. Again still waiting for reality-based assessments.
- Rick Powell
Jason, those of us who consider ourselves "old school" Republicans, conservatives or Libertarians have been pushed aside by the Republican Party. It may be time for Libertarians to gain a foothold. They just need to stop sounding batshite crazy!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
So tell me, Charles and Dalton, what do you think of the outcome of the Palin investigation?
- Alexander Carlill
.Sarah Palin supporters [profile] anti-intellectualism+ | blue states- | checks and balances- | Christian Armageddonism+ | Christian Zionism+ | Clash of Civilizations+ | coastal elites- | creationism+ | Dick Cheney+ | Dominionism+ | due process- | education- | environmentalism- | Greater Israel+ | Iran War+ | Iraq War+ | Judeo-Christian fascism+ | neoconservatism+ | Old Testament cultism+ | Orthodox Judaism+ | red states+ | religious fundamentalism+ | religious Zionism+ | science- | torture+ | U.S. Bill of Rights- | U.S. Constitution- | unitary executive+ | World War IV+
- Sean McBride
.Sarah Palin supporters on Friendfeed [items] Akiva Moskovitz | Candace Holly | Charles LePage | Colide81 | Craig Eddy | Daltonsbriefs | David Ward | Dawn | Evan Brown | Gregory Pittman | Igor the Troll | Jay Tannenbaum | Loren Feldman | Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins | Mattb4rd | Michael Tefft | Mike Lewis | Noah David Simon | Peter Simard | Rob Sterling | Soulhuntre | Spencer Scott | tsudohnimh | Wolfsbayne
- Sean McBride
Corrections and additions welcome to the two previous comments.
- Sean McBride
Palin drives liberals even more crazy than they already are. Good enough for me.
- Spencer
Spencer Scott - do you agree with my profile of Sarah Palin supporters?
- Sean McBride
I have some libertarian leanings (although I'm more centrist) but I'm more annoyed with Republicans talking about fiscal responsibility and smaller government and then never, ever, delivering. That includes the Gov.
- mikepk
Nice work, Sean. It's like a tag cloud of ignorance. What makes you say Akiva is a Palin supporter? Never seemed like the type to me.
- Alexander Carlill
Perhaps I'm mistaken about Akiva -- that's why I asked for corrections. I vaguely remember him defending Palin on several occasions. I wonder how many people on the list are religious fundamentalists, creationists, Iran War supporters, etc. Simple data mining to get a handle on this phenomenon.
- Sean McBride
What if all the the religious fundamentalists and extremists in the U.S. moved to Alaska and seceded? What a lovely thought. :) Let them have their own country, and let the United States get back on track on the vision forged by the Founding Fathers.
- Sean McBride
Palin = ignorance, arrogance, dishonesty = more of the same as the current administration
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
The fact that Palin managed to behave like Bush without nearly as much corrupting power says a lot about her character, though.
- Alexander Carlill
Alexander, I can only assume you're referring to Sean McBride. He's the only person I have blocked on FriendFeed. He's a 9/11 Troofer troll who has a rather creepy obsession with me (probably because I'm Jewish and he's anti-Israel and possibly anti-Semitic as well). He thinks he knows me better than I know myself and kept chasing me around FriendFeed trying to start fights. So, uh, good luck with that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It's always entertaining to see mental meltdowns among religious fundamentalists like Akiva. He made three false statements in his comment: I am not a 9/11 "Troofer," not anti-Israel and not remotely antisemitic -- in fact I rely heavily on Jewish pundits for my own political analysis. I have strongly opposed neoconservatives and Christian Zionists at the extremist end of the political spectrum, but Akiva Moskovitz has never been able to debate me on these issues. Notice that Akiva didn't deny that he is a Sarah Palin supporter -- I think we can safely assume that he is.
- Sean McBride
Akiva is himself a neoconservative, but he can't defend his emotional beliefs on this subject. No neocons on Friendfeed or anywhere else can -- they are essentially irrational cultists. I am still curious to know whether he unwittingly or wittingly selected the name of a famous fictional Jewish terrorist from Leon Uris's Exodus for his handle -- that would be a very Likudnik move. Akiva and I first came to loggerheads when I expressed strong opposition to an American attack on Iran, and pointed out that my position was supported by the American military and intelligence establishments. Akiva is hoping that McCain and Palin will attack Iran.
- Sean McBride
Regarding the easy way in which Akiva throws around the antisemitism smear to try to escape real political debate -- he is very much out of touch with the majority of American Jews on both religious and political issues. A large majority of Jews opposed the Iraq War. The smear tactics are perfectly consonant with the methods used by Sarah Palin.
- Sean McBride
I was a Republican before Reagan took office and my picture of Ronald Reagan is still hanging out in Silicon Valley's Republican Party. The religious wackos so turned me off to conservative principles that I could NEVER support Palin. Any libertarian who supports her and thinks she is for less government makes me really depressed. Her record already demonstrates she's for more government and, worse of all, for government that takes away people's rights.
- Robert Scoble
Be warned, McBride'll keep going on and on as long as you keep feeding him. He'll say a lot of things about me that appear on the surface to have substance but they're based on empty assumptions. He will be unable to back any of it up except to suggest that because I choose not to engage him it means that he's right about all of his assessments. For the record, I'm not a Palin supporter. She's entertaining to watch but that's about it. Or is that Tina Fey? I can't remember now.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I realise that he's prone to exaggeration. Hence the fact that I questioned your presence in that list..
- Alexander Carlill
Alexander, I don't think much of it all. The trooper in question clearly has abused his power much more than Palin ever did. In the end, it sounds a lot like the "scandal" over the firing of attorneys general: much ado about nothing. But keep in mind, per Scoble and McBride, I'm one of those "religiosu whackos" that is standing in the way of true ___, whether we are talking about true conservatism or the truly golden age of Obama.
- ComicList
Republican Libertarian? Does that mean you check whatever box lies between John McCain and Bob Barr on the ballot?
- Ernie Oporto
This libertarian turned away from the Republicans eight years ago, and just laughs at Palin. Any Republican should feel insulted by this cynical choice.
- Michael Hart
It appears that Sean McBride has fallen victim to Sara Palin syndrome. A form of the violent reaction liberals have to any conservative that doesn't fit their stereotype of ignorant white male redneck (see extreme abuse of Condi Rice). Palin energized the GOP base that viewed McCain as a RHINO. She is closer to the average American than your typical bi-coastal liberal.
- Robert Hafer
Robert, that's her problem. She's too average and ordinary. She's not smart or special enough to be elected. Whereas Obama, despite a history of abuse of power, despite not being able to explain the simplest of things like how he actually was able to afford Harvard, is the smart person we have been waiting for.
- ComicList
Looks like it's block time for Charles. And Robert, as a European (oh shit!) liberal, Palin definitely fits my stereotype of ignorant white female redneck. Except she's got abuse of power and weird secessionist links thrown in as well. Is it not worth having a VP who's above average?
- Alexander Carlill
So what's wrong with being liberal, isn't that what libertarian's are? Live and let live...
- Andy Davies
As a woman AND a Libertarian, I was insulted by her the moment that she was picked, and her beliefs and shenangians were thrown out for public perusal. She is for less government in name only, and will only be for less government if she gets to stuff her cronies from Alaskan Independence Party and from her church in Federal posts. Not to mention her voiced desire to set women's rights back by about 50 years.
- Helen Sventitsky
I'm pointing out that McCain / Palin is not a dream ticket for Conservatives, but is far better than Obama / Bidden and their bashing of Middle Americans and attacks on our young people in uniform. The majority of people in "fly over country" own guns, go to church and don't want to live on the Government dole.
- Robert Hafer
The attorney general's scandal was *not* much ado about nothing. The firing of Carol Lam, the U.S. attorney who busted Duke Cunningham, was *clearly* a political act that severely damages the credibility of the U.S. attorney's office. Notice that Roberto Gonzales is no longer attached to the Bush administration, in part because of his indiscretions in this regard. Are you a fan of corruption and increased crime, Charles?
- Victor Ganata
Regardless of her unusual politics, Alaska's resources need to be tapped/drilled/exploited immediately. That is my main goal for her stage time.
- Morgan Warstler
@LePage I have to say I've never heard anyone question how Obama could afford to go to Harvard. A new one on me, and a new low. You should be working for McCain's campaign. They need all the bs charges they can get.
- Rick Powell
Akiva Moskovitz has given the strong impression that he supports the McCain/Palin ticket over Obama/Biden, primarily because he shares the neoconservative agenda up and down. Without a shadow of a doubt he is extremely emotional about Israel, and he throws around the anti-Israel and antisemitism smear with abandon whenever the neoconservative agenda is challenged (including the Iraq War, an Iran War, World War IV, etc.). When he found himself unable to explain how an Iran War would be in the American interest, he turned tail and ran. Typical neocon behavior. Neocons are religious cultists, not rational thinkers.
- Sean McBride
Akiva Moskovitz: "Everyone freaks out if Bush threatens an attack on another country but when Ahmadinejad regularly talks about wiping another country off the face of the Earth, all I ever hear from those same critics is a lot of silence." We get the picture about the agenda here. The good news is that the Bush 43 administration finally figured out that an American war against Iran would be a worse catastrophe for the American interest than even the Iraq War.
- Sean McBride
Sarah Palin says she's for less government? But then she adds: if you have a disadvantaged child, like she does, then she is there for you. What does that mean? Money, government programs. It's the same hypocrisy from the Republican leaders for years now. Reagan claimed to cut government: it grew. GW, same thing, on steroids. You can't help but assume when they say less government, it means, unless I can spend tons of the people's money to help my friends and business partners.
- brad
Jason -- I haven't seen any "arguments" from Akiva Moskovitz on issues relating to Mideast politics and religion (especially Judaism and religious Zionism) -- just emotional and irrational responses that are standard fare for neoconservatives. Regarding Iran: apparently the American government opposes an American or Israeli attack on Iran for reasons of economic self-interest. We are already on the verge of a global financial collapse without instigating violent chaos in the Middle East.
- Sean McBride
why are people never called anti-Semitic when they hate on Arabs?
- Victor Ganata