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Epic Win: News Corp Likely To Remove Content From Google - http://www.inquisitr.com/46786...
Alex Schleber, Bonnie Foster, Brian and 26 other people liked this
Smart move (maybe) - if Google is paying Twitter to get their content, why shouldn't Google be paying others as well? News Corp is a big entity - is it a loss for Google to lose all that content or a loss for News Corp?
- Jesse Stay
from Bookmarklet
Since News Corp suck at reporting and Murdoch is a greedy bastard, I say 'Good bloody riddance'
- Mo Kargas
I know a whole lotta conservatives that will still bypass Google to get the content
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention MySpace users - however, will MySpace users revolt now that their pages can't be indexed (if this goes through)?
- Jesse Stay
*bookmark*
- Micah Wittman
Also makes me wonder what News Corp is doing with MySpace now - what do they have up their sleeves?
- Jesse Stay
Imagine if they too set up a deal with Twitter...
- Jesse Stay
to search content, that is
- Jesse Stay
Good, it would save me the trouble of having to look to see if something comes from Murdoch's entities. I doubt this will actually happen, though.
- Rob Haas
Sorry but most people won't even realize that News Corp content is missing. People will search and they'll find other sites. Sorry, the unibrow of the web wins.
- AJ Kohn
So if I link to a News Corp article via Twitter... will that tweet not be searchable?
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Johnny, they can block Google spider from news corp sites but twitter will still be indexed as usual.
- Amit Morson
Two Words... DON'T CARE
- CW™
Would be a good move if News Corp carried ALL the news (sorry for allcaps). But there are plenty of others wanting for Google love.
- Mike Reynolds
When Murdoch and his kind get together to set a price, the Government will step in to stop what is obvious price fixing. His threat is hollow, they won't set a price.
- Wallace
Rupert must have been listening to Twist #24. Calacanis suggested he do this. http://thisweekinstartups.com/2009... (somewhere near the end of the episode).
- Ken Morley
Calacanis suggested he do this???? It figures....
- Roberto Bonini
He was saying the top ten news oranizations should get together and make an offer to Bing... but that Rupert was likely the only one with the balls to do it; and that Google set a precedent by paying Twitter to index their content. :o)
- Ken Morley
Update: Calacanis just posted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ken Morley
Genius! epic win for sure!
- Jason Calacanis
It's curious that he would say search engine referral visitors aren't desired by advertisers.
- Rob Sterling
Only way to make money from your content is to control it from the beginning. News Corp gave it away in several ways on the internet, including allowing Google search to go through their websites. Now that it has happened, if they choose to close off key avenues of information to go out to the users that are now used to getting their information a certain way, will backfire beyond...
more...
- CW™
One word, "Antitrust." Or is that two words? The bulk Twitter feed apparently was not available to the public or it would have already been searched by Google. If content is available to the public now for free, I don't know how you are going to exclude some member of the public (Google) from accessing that content without creating a legal problem.
- Jimmy Walker
I love moves that make old media harder to get to, driving those bastards farther behind their walls, marginalizing their impact even further. It makes just that much more space to allow the future to get her sooner.
- Matthew DeVries
I guess new media won't kill old media after all. Old media will simply commit suicide.
- Victor Ganata
And Jason just sent around an email newsletter explaining. I'd post it but its Copyrighted.
- Roberto Bonini
What, this? http://calacanis.com/2009...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Why is he "talking about it"? Couldn't a quick change to the robots.txt file (which Google and legitimate search robots obey) exclude Google?
- Brian Sullivan
Jason get rich by flux, it doesn't matter to him who wins, as long as there is change, upheaval and instability. Flat markets are Satan that he must fight. It does not surprise me that he advocates points of view that represent a sea change in the industry. It matters not to him whether new media or old media wins, just that there is a decade of fighting.
- Matthew DeVries
For sure they want to be' payd as Twitter, the move to exit from the index is a suicide about advertising, by now it guarantee 100000 imp x day (It's in the answer of google to Murdock).
- CantorJF
from iPhone
Day 2 #TC50: I -still- love the smell of startups in the morning.
Al Stevens, FKU, motownmutt and 24 other people liked this
To all the "Likes" --- Thanks for all the feedback from Day 1 notes.... Again, I'll keep my notes here.
- Jay Cuthrell
I am going to try showing up early today and try for a seat up front (again). Wired Ethernet at a conference of this size is quite alluring.
- Jay Cuthrell
heh. only one other person in line at the doors... much lighter in the early bird category today.
- Jay Cuthrell
from BuddyFeed
my Demo Pit favorite this morning is http://www.rrripple.com for their time line UI in media sharing
- Jay Cuthrell
ah yes, the tell tale sign of not sleeping properly... deja vu
- Jay Cuthrell
Let me just say.... the bandwidth is still phenomenal... I've been checking and it's averaging 80Mbps/40Mbps today. Wiline is the shizzle. This was yesterday on a spot check http://friendfeed.com/qthrul...
- Jay Cuthrell
stage AV antics continue...
- Jay Cuthrell
Good for rrripple. Time is the best organization for media that documents your doings. Glubble switched from albums to timelines earlier this year. And of course my site is time-centric.
- Bruce Lewis
KRISPY KREME IN THE HOUSSSSSSE!!!!!!!!!!!! NC REPRESENT!!!!
- Jay Cuthrell
Jason has arranged for Krispy Kreme donuts and coffee to be available to ALL attendees. Nice!
- Jay Cuthrell
Jason of the Argonauts fame.... golden fleece and what not
- Jay Cuthrell
Two after parties tonight: after party then the after after party.... at 5A5
- Jay Cuthrell
Conference is going to start at some point... the announcements are going out now.
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo Pit Picks will be two companies again today -- nice format change considering it was a one winner takes all prior to the change yesterday.
- Jay Cuthrell
This one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jay Cuthrell
He is this generation's Jason of the Argonauts fame... DONUTS MAN. DONUTS!!!
- Jay Cuthrell
Expert panel is taking the stage... and everyone is perky. Awake.
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: ClientShow
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm waiting for the this is not Basecamp moment
- Jay Cuthrell
Ah.... very nice approach vs. having to download -- it's Air so everything is inline.
- Jay Cuthrell
Quorum building and teaming with checkoff on items
- Jay Cuthrell
I'd love to see what the system resources are for the Air app
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, that's slick. Admittedly, I'm not a designer. I'll defer to the judges on this one entirely.
- Jay Cuthrell
So, this is a labor of love/hate in this case.
- Jay Cuthrell
The first pitch didn't include a statement to their own business model -- and have opted to take it in the Q&A portion. They didn't use all their time either -- ended 1 minute early.
- Jay Cuthrell
Artifacts are stored in S3. Smart... but wondering if this is LAN friendly i.e. localized cache or volume stub assignments to mitigate the party upload/download.
- Jay Cuthrell
The creative market is being questioned.... interesting
- Jay Cuthrell
This reminds me of a AIR version of Market7 http://www.market7.com/ if they go after video markets.
- Jay Cuthrell
(sidebar: one of the comments about Demo Pit was how companies will say they are for everything and anyone vs. -- yet get the same type critique when they say they have a niche)
- Jay Cuthrell
The word "island" has been thrown down.
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, maybe I can't even defer to judges on this one. I'm wondering if this would be different if there was a creative on the judge panel -- or if that is even realistic. :)
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Metricly
- Jay Cuthrell
The coat the guy driving the demo made me think lab coat. Lab coat as in laboratory. Not sure if need new glasses or wearing a white jacket is hip.
- Jay Cuthrell
compare/corrolate of data --- quick comparison of metrics -- not sparklines
- Jay Cuthrell
CSV files are a pain apparently.
- Jay Cuthrell
Lots of third party API work being shown for pulling in data from Google, Salesforce, Quickbooks (bleeding edge)
- Jay Cuthrell
They have an import tool -- not sure if they will demo that on a stage. Custom can go wrong.
- Jay Cuthrell
Looking at this I keep thinking about scientific pursuits and doing comparative samples for illustration of conceptual trends/fitting.
- Jay Cuthrell
still no sparklines.... 30 seconds left in pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
i haz a mild disappointment
- Jay Cuthrell
"the mint of metrics"
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges starting to kick off... wondering what you can track
- Jay Cuthrell
okay... this is a Dashboard creation or assistance tool?
- Jay Cuthrell
hahah Dilbert reference
- Jay Cuthrell
someone had their Enterprise 2.0 juice pack this morning
- Jay Cuthrell
it's OLAP lite... hard to figure where it begins or ends
- Jay Cuthrell
By the way... the company is called... wait for it... Metricly
- Jay Cuthrell
I think the main complaint from judges so far is a struggle to define a metric of value.
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Affective Interfaces
- Jay Cuthrell
ASCII ART FTW
- Jay Cuthrell
facial expression recognition... this should be interesting
- Jay Cuthrell
yeah, totally missed that one
- Jay Cuthrell
no website
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: City Sourced
- Jay Cuthrell
e-Gov metrics that are comparable
- Jay Cuthrell
This has appeal for cities... not sure about small towns
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay... this is a crowd favorite I think.
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges like it and want greater localizations and priority
- Jay Cuthrell
Integration questions (thinking in terms of Govt) handled by pointing to FreedomSpeaks API
- Jay Cuthrell
SeeClickFix.com reference, open311.org API reference from judges (defensibility)
- Jay Cuthrell
Stakeholders, players, makers... how does this survive turnover in administrations?
- Jay Cuthrell
the goal from the start is to shorten the lag time between seeing a problem and making the city aware
- Jay Cuthrell
ooooooh
- Jay Cuthrell
Arrington just got the founders to admit Palm is paying -them- to build apps
- Jay Cuthrell
Wow. Epic
- Jay Cuthrell
Overall -- the crowd favorite so far. http://www.citysourced.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
On Stage: Trollim
- Jay Cuthrell
Code, Battle, Prevail
- Jay Cuthrell
I would love to see this for Cisco IOS and JunOS
- Jay Cuthrell
I am hoping the gaming engine is thinking in terms of greater tech scope than just "code" per se
- Jay Cuthrell
The bugs are their focus -- this might be more break/fix oriented.
- Jay Cuthrell
This is almost like a bounty system in a way.
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, got it now... this is where they trying to get past a problem -- always on debugging.
- Jay Cuthrell
This is about tactical people for bug smashing and what many might consider the drudgery -- it is an alternate approach.
- Jay Cuthrell
Judge just made the jump.
- Jay Cuthrell
It's very apparent that the panel might not be day to day coders.
- Jay Cuthrell
Elance reference (funny considering oDesk was on stage)
- Jay Cuthrell
Trolls was an unfortunate choice of name in my mind :)
- Jay Cuthrell
important point: This should not be like this... http://video.google.com/videopl...
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: CrowdFlower
- Jay Cuthrell
this is hella clicky
- Jay Cuthrell
double hella clicky even
- Jay Cuthrell
labor channels: AMT, Gambit, Internal Interface, Samasource, LiveWork
- Jay Cuthrell
The labor pooling statistics and manna farmers shall be harnessed. Who will be Moses?
- Jay Cuthrell
judges open up with --- can you take faxes
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay.. that OCD comment went flat.
- Jay Cuthrell
Pro tip: go easy on the coffee
- Jay Cuthrell
Wow. "We -are- Dolores Labs" in response to Tim O'Reilly asking why they are doing what Dolores Labs does. Nice. Stay Classy San Diego!
- Jay Cuthrell
Back to the how it will grow into markets and be realized.
- Jay Cuthrell
judge panel roundup before break...
- Jay Cuthrell
CitySourced is popular. Yep.
- Jay Cuthrell
AOL is coming on stage now...
- Jay Cuthrell
AOL is talking about the new Bebo stuff, lifestream
- Jay Cuthrell
Thanks for the notes Jay! I am watching your notes in one screen and the livestream in another :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
that's a great nail color
- Jay Cuthrell
really pops
- Jay Cuthrell
Garin - I'll be covering all the manicure related minutia as well ;-)
- Jay Cuthrell
the iPhone app is pretty compelling if you want a single app for all of it
- Jay Cuthrell
lol
- Garin Kilpatrick
Wifi on the stage... I think a faraday cage for the iphone stage is a good idea for next time... few demos have been stable on that network for some reason
- Jay Cuthrell
Nice touch... the Beatles RockBand ad showing
- Jay Cuthrell
filter on Facebook is worth checking out the app --- it's very light mode like
- Jay Cuthrell
ahhh... the drag/drop and growl works for their demo... mine crashed :)
- Jay Cuthrell
the auto shorten with bit.ly is clever
- Jay Cuthrell
and mapquest link was full length for AIM
- Jay Cuthrell
20M desktop and mobile users on AIM
- Jay Cuthrell
that means 20M potential Twitter and Facebook clients
- Jay Cuthrell
break....
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges coming to the stage...
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: cocodot
- Jay Cuthrell
immediately calling out evite, facebook, etc...
- Jay Cuthrell
I wonder if anyone ran this by Ice-T?
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, they are pushing to real printed products as well
- Jay Cuthrell
So, it's Evite + Zazzle + better design aesthetics
- Jay Cuthrell
This is reminding me of Plaxo Cards too now that I'm seeing moving demo
- Jay Cuthrell
Address book is very well done
- Jay Cuthrell
Elegance online is hard to pull off
- Jay Cuthrell
They are going to need a lot of money
- Jay Cuthrell
judges are seeing this be a BIG play
- Jay Cuthrell
"Hallmark for the 21st Century" -- Tim
- Jay Cuthrell
I think the judge missed the point about "elegant"
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter is no elegant
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: LearnVest
- Jay Cuthrell
I had breakfast with the LearnVest folks... curious to see how the pitch goes
- Jay Cuthrell
LOL Ice-T...
- Steve
women are their core target at LV
- Jay Cuthrell
they should hire/emulate/steal UserVoice to fix their GUI
- Jay Cuthrell
a 12 step program... that starts the series at 0
- Jay Cuthrell
I think this would be the internal content portfolio for a Mint
- Jay Cuthrell
they are going after the failures of about.com advice sites and things that just drive to a credit card offer
- Jay Cuthrell
Women question will likely be posed by Mike or Jason
- Jay Cuthrell
judges are punching the fail button on the game concept of "Hi, I'm in debt" avatars or badges on profiles
- Jay Cuthrell
Flashback to the waitress tip scene in Resevoir Dogs... we need Harvey Keitel to break this down for the "guys" on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
ah... they are partnering with bankrate.com
- Jay Cuthrell
bottom line -- most passionate speaker I've heard so far
- Jay Cuthrell
APPLAUSE from the crowd
- Jay Cuthrell
helluva close
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: BreakThrough
- Jay Cuthrell
ah, the mental illness punchline... better delivered this time and there was laughter
- Jay Cuthrell
difference this time -- serious topic handling vs. a reference to exploitation (direct) of those with a mental state lending to a mundane or repetitive task
- Jay Cuthrell
This could be sold like AFLAC
- Jay Cuthrell
wondering if there will be an iChat or similar telepresence style session
- Jay Cuthrell
covered by medicare and medicaid
- Jay Cuthrell
would love to hear the arbitrage in this
- Jay Cuthrell
Skype session example :) Yay!
- Jay Cuthrell
he just brought up rural areas --- definitely done their homework
- Jay Cuthrell
Mike Arrington is NAKED
- Jay Cuthrell
well, that was the suggestion anyways
- Jay Cuthrell
this is more concept than website I think
- Jay Cuthrell
11 weeks and $55k credit card debt
- Jay Cuthrell
hinting that someone can buy their debt
- Jay Cuthrell
asking for seed
- Jay Cuthrell
good pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
hopefully the phone numbers of therapists aren't being routed to Yext http://instantrimshot.com
- Jay Cuthrell
judges wondering about liability issues
- Jay Cuthrell
time money ability willingness shame --- great list
- Jay Cuthrell
mentioning telemedicine
- Jay Cuthrell
more mental health jokes
- Jay Cuthrell
and another
- Jay Cuthrell
people joke about things that touch them and that matter to them I think... in this context and this delivery
- Jay Cuthrell
we just had impotence said on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
raped and i need help said on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
very curious to see how judges react
- Jay Cuthrell
judge is -sold-
- Jay Cuthrell
fiddle player in action folks... in action
- Jay Cuthrell
employee assistance programs suggested by judges as a channel
- Jay Cuthrell
visual cues in teleconference
- Jay Cuthrell
this guy is knocking it out of the park with each judge so far
- Jay Cuthrell
tie into Affective Interfaces at the end... Tim's favorite
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: GlideHealth
- Jay Cuthrell
these guys are talking master patient index and transformations off the bat
- Jay Cuthrell
(suggestion for their UI: make the weight a trendline on the profile page)
- Jay Cuthrell
this is right up Cerner's alley
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a great demo so far... all the tools make sense
- Jay Cuthrell
they are also much nicer than existing medical software company gui's
- Jay Cuthrell
they already have customers
- Jay Cuthrell
this looks very funded already
- Jay Cuthrell
time for the judges
- Jay Cuthrell
oh snap! the guy pitching just called out Microsoft
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a big disruption of pricing models
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Sprowtt
- Jay Cuthrell
As we all know... Sarbanes-Oxley Act is responsible for global warming
- Jay Cuthrell
I got lost early on during this pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm wondering how this is different than Yahoo Groups witch hunt material of the .com days?
- Jay Cuthrell
This is a very fast way to buy stock... not sure how popular this will be outside of vibrant room I am sitting in...
- Jay Cuthrell
judge joke was "can you print the stock as wallpaper"
- Jay Cuthrell
the word assure is being used
- Jay Cuthrell
FASCINATING
- Jay Cuthrell
judges also wondering why the lead was SOX crap
- Jay Cuthrell
the wizard portion of the tool was good
- Jay Cuthrell
ahhhhhhh goals of creating an exchange
- Jay Cuthrell
now they are thinking big
- Jay Cuthrell
angels investors vs. cherub investors vs. pixie investors vs. water nymph investors
- Jay Cuthrell
"SEC type stuff" is a wince phrase
- Jay Cuthrell
reminding everyone this is all private stock
- Jay Cuthrell
the SEC savvy person (aka judge) sitting next to you is now "skeptical"
- Jay Cuthrell
judge favorite roundup
- Jay Cuthrell
BreakThrough is taking a clean sweep per recent discussion but CitySource PREVAILS
- Jay Cuthrell
the judges are reminding everyone how very limited the demo experience is.... second visits are the true goal here
- Jay Cuthrell
next up is lunch and Facebook stuff
- Jay Cuthrell
facebook freebies are being stacked on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
10 minutes until Facebook Developer thingie starts
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook has taken the stage
- Jay Cuthrell
and..... JibJab CEO
- Jay Cuthrell
and.... a movie
- Jay Cuthrell
this movie has a subliminal encoding that taps the deeper core of the occipital lobe forcing you to close your eyes and breathe more slowly... drifting... deeper.... deeper...
- Jay Cuthrell
millions and millions and millions of users
- Jay Cuthrell
movie over
- Jay Cuthrell
the 300M user mark has been reached... Facebook is the size of a country... with potentially the same issues of overpopulation
- Jay Cuthrell
talking about Haystack servers
- Jay Cuthrell
talking bout memcached traffic
- Jay Cuthrell
talking about traffic from product launch (looks like a DDoS) for vainty URLs
- Jay Cuthrell
Tornado is on the SLIDE
- Jay Cuthrell
Tornado, scribe, cassandra, thrift, etc....
- Jay Cuthrell
tagging as a hackathon
- Jay Cuthrell
see also mobile.livejournal.com = lite.facebook.com
- Jay Cuthrell
I don't agree with the engineer graph at all.
- Jay Cuthrell
okay... hackathon talk
- Jay Cuthrell
Launching today: Facebook Prototypes
- Jay Cuthrell
*ahem* Google Labs *ahem*
- Jay Cuthrell
demo time
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook Connect talk time
- Jay Cuthrell
closing my eyes... it's James Spader
- Jay Cuthrell
Pimping your friends?
- Jay Cuthrell
pushing the notion that Facebook owns the users
- Jay Cuthrell
selling as decreased friction to acquire
- Jay Cuthrell
someone has been reading "good to great"
- Jay Cuthrell
jibjab ceo on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
this room is a furnace
- Jay Cuthrell
the question of topical and timely vs. lasting and relevant
- Jay Cuthrell
the cococards guys are hopefully listening
- Jay Cuthrell
this is anything but elegant but would be a nice hook
- Jay Cuthrell
jibjab abandoned signups --- went with FBC
- Jay Cuthrell
kinda wondering if the jibjab example companies will adopt Google, Amazon, etc... or just leave it as FBC
- Jay Cuthrell
Q&A
- Jay Cuthrell
coy answers on integrating currency to FBC
- Jay Cuthrell
asked about noreply@facebook.com and got blank stares
- Jay Cuthrell
we may have a breakout later one on one... will add back into notes later
- Jay Cuthrell
see also: http://fudge.org/too-much-text
- Jay Cuthrell
see also: http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
On a happier note... FREE BEER in Demo Pit for http://woome.com
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Thoora
- Jay Cuthrell
news finding, top stories, "reactions"
- Jay Cuthrell
This reminds me of Regator http://regator.com
- Jay Cuthrell
This also reminds me of the news.com default page
- Jay Cuthrell
"quality" sounds like secret sauce... there will be questions from the judges
- Jay Cuthrell
right up Scoble's alley
- Jay Cuthrell
"how is going to remove noise" -- Scoble
- Jay Cuthrell
(I want to see if squelch occurs as a word used)
- Jay Cuthrell
Nothing really ground shaking... Hmmm...
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Insttant
- Jay Cuthrell
ah.... an aplusk reference
- Jay Cuthrell
youngest presenter today if not ever at TC50
- Jay Cuthrell
Cool! Raleigh is on the places page.
- Jay Cuthrell
This is a pretty compelling demo so far but I'm deferring to the judges to weigh in on what this is or isn't in terms of other analytics that tap into streams for brand tracking.
- Jay Cuthrell
Pete Cashmore is alpha dog of the Insttant screen... pervasive... showing up everywhere on it
- Jay Cuthrell
this might indicate there is no true "rise" per se
- Jay Cuthrell
ahh.... they said they "remove the noise" --- smart addition to the pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble likes it. That kid is too young for Scotch.
- Jay Cuthrell
challenge from Scoble -- engagement scores vs. followers
- Jay Cuthrell
measurement and fuzzy vs cotton vs opening additional questions
- Jay Cuthrell
important point -- sarcasm on Twitter is hard to detect
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Perpetually
- Jay Cuthrell
Oh.... I am going to really really like this
- Jay Cuthrell
hoping for PURL references
- Jay Cuthrell
hoping for link rot references
- Jay Cuthrell
YES
- Jay Cuthrell
"apple's time machine for your website"
- Jay Cuthrell
I am very very happy with this.
- Jay Cuthrell
private label archive.org approach with controls and searching inside the history
- Jay Cuthrell
challenges that judges will bring up most likely.... dynamics, personalization, and other unqiue one to one notions and interstitials of third parties
- Jay Cuthrell
is this a bad robot?
- Jay Cuthrell
is this a good robot?
- Jay Cuthrell
or is this just... a robot?
- Jay Cuthrell
this is good for brochure web... doubtful for a Facebook experience
- Jay Cuthrell
Daily archive.... showing archive.org now
- Jay Cuthrell
okay, they are referencing wayback machine (archive.org)
- Jay Cuthrell
curl on steroids
- Jay Cuthrell
$99 a month to $399 a month for up to 400GB
- Jay Cuthrell
judges already asking about logging
- Jay Cuthrell
used the words "robot policy"
- Jay Cuthrell
i am wondering if Scoble will mention his blog loss incident
- Jay Cuthrell
the $99 was a pure offset of OPEX and likely won't fly for getting customers
- Jay Cuthrell
recommendation from judges -- freemium
- Jay Cuthrell
gov 2.0 references as option or path
- Jay Cuthrell
Jason wants them to approach the news sites for refreshing ads and impressions for olden days review
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: anyclip
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges chatting while the demo is setup for anyclip... CitySource again... is showing up
- Jay Cuthrell
feedburner guy wants to build battleships
- Jay Cuthrell
Linkedin Q&A has started too
- Jay Cuthrell
anyclip is on now
- Jay Cuthrell
they opened with a clip from Big Lebowski
- Jay Cuthrell
Oh... I -like- this
- Jay Cuthrell
any clip from -any- movie
- Jay Cuthrell
this is going to be a big big part of future TechCrunch posts (my theory)
- Jay Cuthrell
this is fun
- Jay Cuthrell
there has to be some crazy metadata
- Jay Cuthrell
here comes the you can do this for us
- Jay Cuthrell
500 tags per film
- Jay Cuthrell
think clipart sites... now it's movie clips
- Jay Cuthrell
only 300 films right now
- Jay Cuthrell
critical point -- the content providers have to be on board
- Jay Cuthrell
this is big
- Jay Cuthrell
monetizing latent content by the drink... or sippy cup
- Jay Cuthrell
they even had a calacanis clip... who knew?
- Jay Cuthrell
Whiskey Winner!
- Jay Cuthrell
still a lot of concern from judges on making the deals for content
- Jay Cuthrell
there will be a swinging door for content pricing and reciprocation and may very well be proprietary
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Crowd Fusion
- Jay Cuthrell
I remember seeing this guy on TWiST http://thisweekinstartups.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
yeah, this demo reflects a huge amount of work done by someone that has done this several times
- Jay Cuthrell
demo is obsessable.com
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm pretty sure this was talked about verbatim here http://thisweekinstartups.com/2009...
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
"this is a complicated tool"
- Jay Cuthrell
(my critique: nobody cares /today/ about phone reviews from 2002 for comparisons)
- Jay Cuthrell
"a better engadget" -- Scoble
- Jay Cuthrell
they want to talk with clicker
- Jay Cuthrell
goal would be to open source and then let people grow into it
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Hark
- Jay Cuthrell
link sharing on steroids
- Jay Cuthrell
showing this question http://twitter.com/timorei...
- Jay Cuthrell
(my answer: google wave sort of but not the whole enchillada)
- Jay Cuthrell
"flaring" is sending a signal out to the network of contacts... everyone converge as a Flash Browsing Mob
- Jay Cuthrell
Slashdot Effect -> Digg Effect -> Hark Effect (if you are Robert Scoble)
- Jay Cuthrell
this demo is trippy
- Jay Cuthrell
this is what stumbleupon should have done
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a whole level of sharing... porn aficionados
- Jay Cuthrell
interesting teaming possibilities
- Jay Cuthrell
how will they make money? I'm guessing ads
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
"downloads are hard"
- Jay Cuthrell
"not enough pain for me to go get it"
- Jay Cuthrell
(me: this is for select groups and value requests)
- Jay Cuthrell
great thoughts everyone! Anyclip rocked it!
- Jason Calacanis
Heh.
- Jay Cuthrell
Anyclip did indeed.
- Jay Cuthrell
RPN reference FTW
- Jay Cuthrell
finally a ray of hope from the judges... "this idea has not been explored enough"
- Jay Cuthrell
the suggestion is being trumped as meebo
- Jay Cuthrell
judge refresh and Q&A
- Jay Cuthrell
Insttant has legs so far
- Jay Cuthrell
dark horse might be Perpetually?
- Jay Cuthrell
Anyclip did rock it. It's made for people that think and love what a moment in a movie is.
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble is clinging to Anyclip
- Jay Cuthrell
15 minute break.... pause for the cause then Demo Pit (2 picks) are next
- Jay Cuthrell
room is still packed here... wow
- Jay Cuthrell
AV group (serious nerdcore geniuses) on stage setting up for the next round
- Jay Cuthrell
these animoto videos are pretty rockin'... this conference is definitely setting the bar of expectations for future events
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: threadsy
- Jay Cuthrell
oh... and some guy named Chamillionaire -- huge in country and western I'm told
- Jay Cuthrell
I remember hearing something to the effect of Chamillionaire being the first artist to truly grasp the impact of licensing ringtones
- Jay Cuthrell
the demo on stage is showing a lot of UI squish... makes me wonder what kind of monitors are being used vs the lack of HD or wide format projectors for venues -- there is probably a market in there somewhere for the vendors of projection to make this happen by 2010
- Jay Cuthrell
the real estate is palpable now when considering the screen size of the actual, well, screens...
- Jay Cuthrell
judge body language update... I think coffee is in order... long day effect
- Jay Cuthrell
1M to 11M of Webmail/Facebook/Twitter overlap -- neat stat
- Jay Cuthrell
Ah... veiled furries discussion
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges weighing in... starting with Scoble
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble WANTS it now
- Jay Cuthrell
differentiators are coming close to squelch...
- Jay Cuthrell
multiple inbox, flows, PIM, good points... (will update Too Much Text)
- Jay Cuthrell
"power user product"
- Jay Cuthrell
the webmail revitalization is around the revenue model 2-5% of your messages will be matched vs. EVERY message -- Gmail failed?
- Jay Cuthrell
wondering where Otherinbox and Squirrelmail are in this mix
- Jay Cuthrell
this will be repeated a lot "cheatin' on my MySpace" -- Chamillionaire
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: lissn
- Jay Cuthrell
starting with a evolution line.... begs question of where was missing link?
- Jay Cuthrell
questions... vark vibe... watchers/voyeaurs/lurkers
- Jay Cuthrell
oh... this is good
- Jay Cuthrell
here we go... Google Wave Playback riff
- Jay Cuthrell
Google Wave UI teams take note... this is the UI
- Jay Cuthrell
Ray Kurzweil's Singularity example in the demo.... flawless
- Jay Cuthrell
Local is the mob you can walk to
- Jay Cuthrell
Local is the group think for the region
- Jay Cuthrell
Local is the tribe
- Jay Cuthrell
wondering if this was real at this point...
- Jay Cuthrell
CAPTCHA's should not be used for -any- large event announcement -- it will fail
- Jay Cuthrell
Finally into the site...
- Jay Cuthrell
judges are still coming at this with the same discussions we are seeing in Google Wave sandbox... this is very cool
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Radiusly
- Jay Cuthrell
This is something Dell needs perhaps
- Jay Cuthrell
thinking about customer service, helpdesks, clearing houses for lead generation
- Jay Cuthrell
what if you have a company with thousands of SKUs -- Cisco for example
- Jay Cuthrell
modular systems vs. shrink wrapped
- Jay Cuthrell
judge weigh in time...
- Jay Cuthrell
domain.com vs. twitter.com/domain discussion begins
- Jay Cuthrell
we are in critique of pitch mode... can't get to the product just yet
- Jay Cuthrell
what is the point of doing this if it isn't drawing in on the terms a company is comfortable with --- some might take exception with this depending on your view of a customer, company and that role
- Jay Cuthrell
showing signs that this makes companies uncomfortable
- Jay Cuthrell
another pearl "gotta be Simon Cowell too" -- Chamillionaire
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Stribe
- Jay Cuthrell
turn any website into a social community network thing in under 60 seconds
- Jay Cuthrell
ah.... not a typo... clever clever
- Jay Cuthrell
or maybe private?
- Jay Cuthrell
gotta be a cached copy
- Jay Cuthrell
the bottom bar reminds me of what TechCrunch turned on a while back that crashed my browser
- Jay Cuthrell
they turned it off since then (unrelated)
- Jay Cuthrell
I think these things should be called lichen-ware
- Jay Cuthrell
Wow, that's only 251 hits in Google... okay... this is lichenware
- Jay Cuthrell
a bow on the tree
- Jay Cuthrell
but they are letting the ribbon be a bus
- Jay Cuthrell
stribe on wordpress.com is the acid test
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook Connect commercial begins
- Jay Cuthrell
Ah.... the website is the center vs. the Facebook generalization for duplication of efforts (ie profiles)
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter OAuth commercial begins
- Jay Cuthrell
Chamillionaire gets it
- Jay Cuthrell
BOOOOM
- Jay Cuthrell
Very refreshing... kowtow indeed
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Clixtr
- Jay Cuthrell
geo aware mobile camera iphone app?
- Jay Cuthrell
whrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
whrrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
whrrrrrrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
Whrrrrrrrrrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
Will. Someone. Mention. http://whrrl.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
nobody is asking if this has been done before
- Jay Cuthrell
friend graph inertia being discussed
- Jay Cuthrell
Flickr comparison being made
- Jay Cuthrell
He's describing Whrrl again
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble demo crash?
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: The Whuffie Bank
- Jay Cuthrell
the wildcard
- Jay Cuthrell
The judges from the first panels would have had fun on this one... online currency discussions http://friendfeed.com/qthrul...
- Jay Cuthrell
I wonder how many people are thinking of how to game this, farm manna, etc...
- Jay Cuthrell
very interesting imagery for reinforcing ideas on this deck...
- Jay Cuthrell
printed whuffie in the US? Google "The United Cities Corporation"
- Jay Cuthrell
that was an epic rant from Reid --- something has been touched
- Jay Cuthrell
economics is a sure fire way to drive people to drink
- Jay Cuthrell
oh... look at the clock
- Jay Cuthrell
I'd like to see the judges take note of actual private printed currency concerns in the US
- Jay Cuthrell
ie. this might NOT be something for purely US investment
- Jay Cuthrell
Chamillionaire does not disappoint -- brought the whole mining, manufactured concern up
- Jay Cuthrell
the well of souls, inflation, draw and run
- Jay Cuthrell
rewinding back to the non-profit is interesting considering this is an investment vehicle -- i.e. is there a return?
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo pit companies after announcements... but first... 2 minutes for XBox and Zune giveaways
- Jay Cuthrell
Biiiiiiiig fishbowl filled with cards going around
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo pick #1 of 2: CHYNGLE
- Jay Cuthrell
ultra localized mobile networks
- Jay Cuthrell
the stadium graphic is telling stories
- Jay Cuthrell
UMich demo
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, this is another ticket scalping demo?
- Jay Cuthrell
They should contact the Carolina Hurricanes
- Jay Cuthrell
A lot of stadiums are wifi enabled
- Jay Cuthrell
Xbox and Zunes handed out.. lots of winners
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo pick #2 of 2: SocialWok
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a Google Apps play
- Jay Cuthrell
demo domain is http://voiceroute.net/
- Jay Cuthrell
ahhh, less use of email
- Jay Cuthrell
this is an Enterprise play
- Jay Cuthrell
emulation of the Facebook feed waterfall
- Jay Cuthrell
there is a mobile interface as well that is working for iphone
- Jay Cuthrell
ah.... teaming then publish into the public stream
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter, Facebook, FriendFeed, -and- Linkedin
- Jay Cuthrell
AND GOOGLE WAVE included!! Wow.
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in
- Jay Cuthrell
this will be mapped to Google Apps
- Jay Cuthrell
for revenues that is
- Jay Cuthrell
hitch that wagon
- Jay Cuthrell
judges redux
- Jay Cuthrell
threadsy is winning this
- Jay Cuthrell
well...
- Jay Cuthrell
anyclip from this panel?
- Jay Cuthrell
hmm... this is a divided panel
- Jay Cuthrell
OVER and OUT
- Jay Cuthrell
recaps to follow drinks
- Jay Cuthrell
wish I could have joined you!
- Andrew Hyde
Open for questions/clarification
- Jay Cuthrell
that's good
- Koray Gülpınr | yihhu.com
http://twitpic.com/e9v55 - Checking the twitters with the boy
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Nice picture. Eyes open, full head of hair too!
- Louis Gray
handsome boy!
- Jenna Bilotta
awwwwwwww tiny baby nose...
- Yolanda
He's gorgeous!
- Jesse Stay
awww cuddling dad whilst checking out his tweet already!
- Joan Lockwood
He's tiny!
- anna sauce
V. sweet. How old is he?
- Ayşe E.
Nice shot - beautiful boy!
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
Congratulations, Dad!
- Barb Siddiqui
Ok, that's it, I'm having one. No one try and stop me. :)
- Charlotte M
When is he going to get his own account?
- Chris Martin
from iPhone
Sweet picture :)
- Susan Beebe
ooohh mommy porn. luv it!!!
- Mrsth
two pensive guys! Grats @ev & @sara !
- dario
OMG! Atheists Exist! : Dispatches from the Culture Wars - http://scienceblogs.com/dispatc...
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"...an atheist group takes out an ad on city buses and the city takes the ad down and claims it's offensive. [...] The only thing the ad does is say that atheists exist."
- Tanath
from Bookmarklet
According to the comments the city has already backpedaled but it should never have happened in the first place.
- Tanath
why should it not have happened??
- Rob Sellen :o)
Why? I can't understand how it's ok to have signs about Christians or whatever... (religious signs) and not for the other side of the coin. Just doesn't make sense. :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: That's the point. We're saying it shouldn't have been taken down. There's no good reason. Calling it offensive is an excuse - and if it is offensive, that's their problem (and a serious one if you find simple _facts_ to be offensive). And if you want to start outlawing facts then that's a whole other can of worms... Beyond the facts it's a simple inoffensive message to atheists.
- Tanath
ah I see... OK.. we have seen a similar thing here in the UK, they were on the side of a bus. They were stopped too.. that is wrong to me.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Everyone should have the right to openly express there opinion in a 'free' society but there do need to be agreed standards or we no longer remain civilised.
- Kevin J Hatton
Which is the best place for freethinkers and rational individuals? I am returning to the Land of Opportunity. http://bit.ly/MeltingPot
- Martin Lindeskog
Kevin... civilised? what standards are you talking about? this is just hypocrisy.
- Rob Sellen :o)
+1 Rob
- Edward Zwart
Hey everyone, come and look over here, I've found him! After years of searching I've finally happened upon the last reasonable Christian. His name's Gabe. ;-)
- Slappy Line
I am, of course, just kidding - I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable Christians out there really.
- Slappy Line
There are very reasonable & generally rational Christians... just not when it comes to things like faith.
- Tanath
I have my beliefs. You have yours. I don't try to ram mine down your throat, and I'll thank you for not trying to do that with yours. If you feel a need to go to church four times every Sunday, and a few times during the week too, that's fine, but I don't care, or want to know every time you do.
- Ian May
Ian: There is merit to "live and let live," but on the other hand beliefs matter. Actions are informed by beliefs, and people try to influence public policy according to their beliefs - so debate is important.
- Tanath
Ian, neither a post on a public forum nor an ad on a bus counts as ramming beliefs down someone's throat...
- Mark
I say who gives a rip. Not me. Believe what you want to believe or don't at all. Why should anyone care.
- Danny Minick
I find this thread deeply offensive
- John Hardy
There certainly does need to be equal time on this subject. If the free speech of atheists bothers the religious, why don't the religious have the reaction that, perhaps, their public displays of love for their God might be offensive to the atheists? I personally don't care if someone believes in God or not - I'd just like the entire discussion removed from the public square. (And I'll bet, even having said this, you can't determine whether I am religious or not myself.)
- Ciaoenrico
I choose to believe you're kidding Mr. John Hardy :) (You brought a smile to my face in either case.)
- Eivind
The British comedian Dave Allen said it best: "Go, and may your god go with you." Live your life, keep your side of the street clean, and if I like what I see I will ask you about your faith/philosophy. Attraction, not promotion. Don't trivialize your god/spirit/higher power/whatever by turning him/her/it into a commodity.
- Daniel Fath
Tanath, I've found that many people, even when actual facts are put right in front of them, tend to still believe in what they want to. I'm thinking more of political beliefs rather than religious ones here. What I'm really meaning by my previous statement is that I don't appreciate you (the general you) trying to force me to do what you want to do, when I don't want to. Mark, I wasn't particularly meaning the forum post or the ad, although, the latter could certainly be rather 'in your face' I guess.
- Ian May
Apparently, the offended in this Iowa town haven't heard that there's no such thing as bad publicity. C'mon, believers. You have a bus sign publicizing your eternal purpose, and you get it pulled down? How about reaching out to the atheist group as "free-thinking" believers? Even Paul spoke to locals on their own terms. He didn't demand their pagan signage removed, he quoted their signage in his sermon! (Acts 17:23 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage...)
- Joel Zehring
Yeah, that's what America needs, another Paul. :/
- Edward Zwart
Censoring atheism is religious prosecution since atheism is itself a religion. People have also forgotten that Jefferson, Franklin and co. were Masons and theists, not exactly fundamentalists. The country was founded by men who were largely atheists and freethinkers. The rabid style of fundamentalism first appeared as a product of the immediate post Civil War years. Jacksonian democracy...
more...
- Carl Gruber
@ Carl, how is atheism a religion?
- Janice
The country wasn't "founded"..it was stolen... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob, sadly, you could say that about a lot of countries in one way or another.
- mikepk
@Ian But isn't all of politics exactly that, us trying to convince (reason with) each other about our beliefs. It's just that when ideology or religion gets in the way that it sounds like forcing. Strong beliefs loosely held still need to be hashed out. The trouble for some points of view is that they don't stand up well to reason. And then statements like the one's in this ad can be perceived as threatening or in your face, when in fact they couldn't be more innocuous.
- Edward Zwart
Yeah you could do... so people shouldn't say they were "founded".. cos that's a lie... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: reminded me of this http://friendfeed.com/mikepk...
- mikepk
ah... I can't see what he says. :o(
- Rob Sellen :o)
Carl: atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour.
- Tanath
Danny Minnick: I just said in my last comment before yours why people should care. To repeat: "There is merit to 'live and let live,' but on the other hand beliefs matter. Actions are informed by beliefs, and people try to influence public policy according to their beliefs - so debate is important."
- Tanath
Tanath... so are you saying I am WRONG to NOT be religious?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: What? o.O Did I miss something, LOL? I wouldn't be saying that, I'm an atheist myself.
- Tanath
ok... lol. :o) god told me to ask... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Is that so? Can you ask him something useful, like how to resolve the conflict between quantum theory & relativity for me? :P
- Tanath
he just went "tut" :o) so.. no idea...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hm, well I tried. :P
- Tanath
@pallian don't you think @jasoncalacanis can get more tweets for #twist if he used tweetizen.com??? I have to suggest it.
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Any plans on a 24 hour network like leos trying to setup? #twist
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I think one show is enough for me.... we will probably run our content on Leo's network. I don't have the time to build out an entire network like he is doing.
- Jason Calacanis
LMAO Great choice of music at the end guys! Oh, and the show grade: Solid 9. I really dig the news insights, in last half of the show #twist
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My audio thoughts on what a personal brand really is good for and PR is dead (at least now lame PR people practice it). - http://cinch.blogtalkradio.com/roberts...
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As called into BlogTalkRadio via my cell phone. Cool free service!
- Robert Scoble
good one Robert...enjoyed it especially about value of "doing something that has broader impact" .Also liked the thoughts about doing it different" I am with you. See you at SXSW and lets catch up further
- Richard Binhammer
Richard: looking forward to seeing you!
- Robert Scoble
I understand what you're talking about re: PR, we've worked with you b4 (EA - Dead Space); I agree in principle with what you say, but what you're really talking about is the evolution of PR from a one way dialogue to a two-way conversation through the various touch points in social media. Connecting. Having a dialogue and a relationship. The personal touch. That's always been the difference between good PR and bad PR, not something new.
- Christian
Christian: that day at EA was absolutely great! If that's PR, I want more PR. The problem is that for every experience with PR like that I have 2,000 lame email pitches to go through.
- Robert Scoble
agreed. robert (OMG i'm agreeing with you:P). think of the 90s, back in the day when musicians were gods. good bands shied away from the spotlight and introduced their fans to great unknown bands who didn't get the same fame...
- Terry O'Fee
Robert, Couldn't agree more. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
- Chandler
great commentary en light of a recent SEO post ranting about personal branding - http://outspokenmedia.com/brandin...
- shayne catrett
Well said Robert.
- Jason Calacanis
Good points
- Bill Romanos
I think PR needs to rise to a higher std--needs re-invention http://cinch.blogtalkradio.com/BillKos...
- Bill Koslosky
Times have changed! Thank goodness. I actually think it is a bit easier to get coverage now...at least it is far less expensive. The key point is that you have to be doing something interesting and creative AND get it out there in a more "real" way. Thank goodness pay for play is over :)
- Troy Malone
I love the flashlight concept
- Shaun Haney
Just one comment: if you want to leave your children with something more than some bucks in the bank, teach them to cultivate a rich interior life. Nurture their curiosity about EVERYTHING, not just tech, or social media, or the NEXT NEXT BIG THING. A well-furnished mind helps one become good company for oneself, which is the only way to become good company for someone else.
- Victor Panlilio
Reading: A Better Calling Card: Twitter Challenges Facebook Connect - ReadWriteWeb http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Our social media marketing experiment is underway at http://www.flickr.com/photos... -- Maryam and I have an announcement! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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More on Gillmor Gang in at 3 p.m. Pacific Time http://live.twit.tv -- we did this experiment two years ago and it'll be interesting to see how the marketers pick up on this announcement this time.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Hey, congratulations Robert!
- Mark Trapp
Congrats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Nir Ben Yona
Congrats Robert :) hope you and the family are donig okay, and Congrats. again! :)
- Ahmed
Congratulations!!
- Anne Bouey
Congratulations!
- Trish R
Congrats to you both!
- Thomas Hawk
you might wanna check that link Robert...
- Aron Michalski
Congrats!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Aron: I fixed the link to http://live.twit.tv -- thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Congrats :) You are catching me up! SXSW was a hoot btw.
- Benjamin
Congratulations there! Very enthousiastic photo indeed, the smile is contagious; made me smile over here :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Robert, congratulations to you and Maryam! and Patrick and Milan, too. :)
- Karoli
Congratulations!
- Verena Fuchs
Patrick: yeah, we're having fun! We'll have the family on the Gillmor Gang shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I don't know how to type it with the Farsi characters, but Maryam will understand it: Moubarak! :)
- directeur
Congratulations and good luck.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Congratz Robert :)
- Timo Heuer
My son Patrick's reaction? "Have you ever heard of protection?" Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
That is nothing new I heard that here too.
- Dan Krivolavek
Congratulations.
- Rachel Clarke
congradulations!@
- chaz2b
Congratulations! This means even more noise in the world of tomorrow
- sdfx
Congratulations, Robert and Maryam!!!
- David Sifry
from twhirl
Congratulations. :)
- JA Castillo
Congrats Robert, Maryam, and family! That's awesome.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Congrats!
- Jeremy Brooks
Congrats Robert and Maryam! Health, wealth and happiness to you and your family.
- AJ Kohn
congratulations to you and your family
- Jeff Sandquist
oh Robert that's wonderful news. love to you both
- Erin @queenofspain
Congrats!
- Jay Neff
Hope this time you have a girl:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Congratulations!
- Loren Heiny
Congratulations, Maryam and Robert!! This is really exciting news!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Congratulations! How fun!
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Congrats, Robert! Milan will have soon somebody to play with.
- Jordi Soler
from twhirl
Congrats!! That's so exciting!
- Katie is Frittering
Congrats Maryam and Robert and Milan
- johnpiercy
Congratulations...exciting!!
- Moushumi Kabir
Thanks everyone! We're just trying to keep up with the Grays! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Awesome! congratulations
- Martha
Congratulations!
- Paul
Those look like ultrasound pics...congratulations!
- Catherine Novak
Congrats! :)
- Rochelle
Wonderful! Congrats. :-)
- Chris Baskind
Ahh, now we are in my *social media comfort zone* Posterior placenta, about 10-13 week gestational age by viewing. Nice extremities and profile with nasal bone visualized already (soft marker for Down's when absence of nasal bone). Nice job!
- Janet
Congratulations! :-)
- Daniel Rowley
Wonderful, congratulations
- Bill McFarland
Congrats to both of you!
- Sandra
Congrats. You must really enjoy sleepless nights :)
- Paul Bainbridge
congrats..!! good wishes =)
- Praveen Vasudev
Doctors have figured out what causes that. I can show you some drawings or filmstrips about it.
- Matthew DeVries
Congrats! And ENJOY every minute of it! It passes qucik!!
- David Slater
from twhirl
Wow! I hope I didn't spoil it earlier. I was totally just guessing. Congratulations Robert and Maryam!!!
- Jesse Stay
Congrats to you both :D
- craterdweller
Congratulations!
- Pierre Beugnot
Not the first, and certainly not the last, but by God the most sincere Congratulations!
- Bob Stewart
from BuddyFeed
Twitter says, "you are unable to father more people. Please read about our fathering limits." :-D Mazeltov!
- Karim
You will join a very exclusive group that will have twittered the birth of two children :)
- Christian Burns
Wooooo congrats!!!
- Simon Wicks
Congratulations Scobles :D
- Johnny Worthington
awwwww... congratulations to you and your family.
- Yolanda
congratulations!
- Anna Lynn M.
We did same here, maybe same day, but no photos...the little "bug" needed a macro lens & the sonogram operator couldn't find one. Not polite in public what she did use but it is an internal device, an alternative to the belly transponder, and said shape is usually known by another name. Rather surprising in the further context that the sono operator was a very cute, young blonde. Confusing day. Russians (wife) keep such announcements secret until the second trimester, so I'm not allowed to speak.
- Douglas Hopkins
Douglas: yeah, we kept ours quiet until week 12 and also Maryam had a test to make sure the baby doesn't have Downs.
- Robert Scoble
Congrats Robert!
- Hutch Carpenter
Whoa! Congratulations you guys!!!
- Charlie Anzman
congrats! many good wishes
- Pico Seno
Congratulations!!
- Daniel Brusilovsky
congratulations are in order, you two!
- Micah Wittman
Wow congratulations to you both!
- Sally Church
Congrats! Great news. A lot of changes lately.
- jjprojects
wow congra...!
- mohammadk
Regarding "marketing experiment" - I forget where I read it, but someone said that the most successful advertising is the stuff that doesn't look like advertising at all, because it does such an outstanding job of meeting your needs. Valid points in your post, and there's no reason why smaller services can't try to meet their users' needs also. For example, look at all of the fuss over how services suggest users. What if your personal suggested users on Twitter were to suddenly include pediatricians?
- John E. Bredehoft
Mazal Tov!!
- Orli Yakuel
Congratulations are in order! Good luck with the upcoming baby.
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
Tabrik migoyam! تبریک می گویم
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
- Rom Feria
Let me add my congratulations to everyone's! Cheers!
- Steve Lowe
gratz!!
- timepilot
Mazel tov!
- Alan Chamberlain
from twhirl
مبارکه :)
- Picolo
Congratulations Big Daddy! Congrats to Mom also!
- Tony C
Best wishes and congratulations :-) Greetings from Norway!
- Hanna Wiszniewska
No matter when the children come. Congratulations!!!
- Moses Kpetigo
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Jim Connolly
Congratulations! Best wishes to you both!
- Tamara
Congrats big guy!!!!!!!!!! please twitter any diaper related questions to @answers ;-)
- Jason Calacanis
Robert Scoble, growing Friendfeed one user at a time :) congratulations!
- Christian Anderson
Congrats Robert and Maryam. Best of Luck to you both.....
- Alex Marrow
Your baby is a celebrity even before he/she is born. Congrats!
- Alekkus
Congratulations from Italy!
- Cristian Conti
Awesome! 3rd BABY Scoble on the way! Cheers to you and your family!! How blessed you must feel right now. You've been through quite a bit of positive change lately - impressive!! Can't wait to hear more :)
- Susan Beebe
Congratulations!!! Solo parent duty this weekend and missed the announcement. Of course tinyprints.com would like to step up to the plate when the time comes.
- Rick Bucich
Calacanis is saying in his mailinglist that his new offer is now $500,000 for 3 years of @questions in the twitter suggested users list.
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I think it's well worth it. Also, I don't think they will take it.
- Jason Calacanis
I agree that it might be worth it for Mahalo, but perhaps not so much for other business owners reading this feed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I can't believe I'm saying this, but - I think they should take it. They should change it from "Suggested Users" to "Sponsor Users" and give anyone who pays a certain number of impressions based on the amount. Bingo: revenue model. I'm waiting for my job offer, Twitter.
- Shawn Farner
Calacanis is a mad genius.
- Dimitar Vesselinov
doesn't scale: ~$165k/yr per sponsor, in current scrolling window there are 1st three initial spots & ~100 throughout the scroll - so, ~$500k cost for one of three top spots, and then sliding scale down from there - diminishing returns says that the lower you go the less valuable it becomes, so lets say they could generate another ~$2.5mm from rest of sponsors - that's $3mm for the sponsor list & a very small portion of what their profitable revenue needs be - monetizing api is still best way to proceed
- mike "glemak" dunn
Hybrid car sales go from 60 to 0 at breakneck speed - Los Angeles Times - http://www.latimes.com/busines...
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"Americans have cut back on buying vehicles of all types as the economy continues its slide. But the slowdown has been particularly brutal for hybrids, which use electricity and gasoline as power sources. They were the industry's darling just last summer, but sales have collapsed as consumers refuse to pay a premium for a fuel-efficient vehicle now that the average price of a gallon of gasoline nationally has slipped below $2. "When gas prices came down, the priority of buying a hybrid fell off quite quickly," said Wes Brown, a partner at Los Angeles-based market research firm Iceology. "Yet even as consumer interest declined, the manufacturers have continued to pump them out.""
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I recall a couple of years ago that Consumer Reports claimed hybrids were not more cost effective due to increased maintenance costs. There's also debate if they're more environmentally friendly due to the manufacturing of the battery for these vehicles. It could be that hybrids are just more expensive, eco-unfriendly vehicles with great marketing.
- William Beem
I think falling gas prices is only part of the reason. A cratering economy and consumer credit being cut back/cut off has a fair bit to do with it as well.
- vicster is...
The new Prius will get 50mpg. Seems to me that sending more money than necessary to Saudi Arabia isn't a great idea.
- Robert Scoble
Consumers have the memory and reasoning ability of a goldfish, it seems. The economy tanked and gas prices took a nosedive. What do they think is going to happen to gas prices when the economy recovers?
- Eric P
Robert, we drive two cars that are at about 100k miles each. If one of them dies, we're buying another used car in the <$7000 range. Your comment suggests to me that your car purchasing mindset might be a ways off from others'. I'd like a more efficient car, and both of ours are above 20mpg highway, but we can't afford to make it our #1 concern when choosing a new auto.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
when oil>>gasoline prices start to go back up, this will shift back.
- grant fox
Even at 50mpg, you have to use alot of gas to break-even on the premium cost a hybrid model as over a traditional car. My $11k (after incentives) '08 Cobalt gets me 30mpg regularly. If it takes years to recoup the additional investment in the hybrid, people won't make that investment. Sadly, many people won't dig into their pocket book just for the principle of not sending money to Saudi Arabia
- Kevin Kuphal
This is interesting but the article speaks in absolute, not percentage terms... which makes it hard to analyze. *all* car sales are plummeting dramatically. the article could say, "sales of blue cars plummet".... (as vicster alludes to). Hybrids are not, *necessarily*, the most energy-optimal choice. They take more resources to build and it of course depends on your driving style/habits. But they are generally a smart, responsible choice.
- Anthony Citrano
As Eric says: low gas prices is a very temporary condition. People are dumb.
- Anthony Citrano
Not true in a normal car market, Kevin. The Prius has significantly lower ownership costs than most other new cars for a 5 year period (which is longer than what the average owner keeps a car for BTW) because of its greater efficiency and excellent resale value.
- Alex Scoble
In the big scope, Daniel, you are being extremely economical. Very likely the vehicle in that range will have mostly depreciated which is still a large portion of the cost of owning a vehicle.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
the people aren't necessarily dumb, just misinformed. also consider the stigma of driving a prius in f-150 country, something that many left-coasters fail to recognize.
- grant fox
Alex: Would you happen to know at what price per gallon it's break even, i.e. hybrid vs. non?
- Ken Sheppardson
Isn't buying brand new cars an inherently profligate decision? Who's splitting hairs about 5-year TCO at that point?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
The best thing you can say about hybrids is that they kill us all just a little more slowly. I tend to agree with vicster... I'm betting a lot of the hybrids sold last year were purchased as a trade-in, likely in such a way that the loan the buyer got covered the new hybrid, plus the difference between trade-in-value and money-left-on-the-old-loan, and probably fairly impulsively. Not something people would do impulsively now nor be able to get such a jumbo loan for.
- Wirehead
According to Consumer Reports TCO for a Prius for 5 years is about $25,500 on a car that costs $22,000 or so. There are other cars with similar purchase price that cost $39k to buy. For new cars the Prius has the lowest TCO. This includes Corollas and what not. Of course this is based off of national average for miles per year.
- Alex Scoble
And I'm not buying the battery argument. Toyota is saying that the batteries, in most cases, will last 15 years or longer with normal use. Cost to replace them is something like $2500 now. Because of recycling technologies available the old batteries aren't doing significant damage to the environment.
- Alex Scoble
If I were buying another car, and I won't be for many years, I'd buy a used Prius.
- Thomas Hawk
I agree with you Thomas. My only caveat is that I still won't pay a large up-front premium for it. I figure lots of people are interested in the used Prius, so if it turns out they cost 20% more than an equivalent Camry or something, I'll probably pass.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@grant - actually, no, people are dumb. ;) @alex: the CR research does not include the net environmental impacts of manufacturing a Prius, which are high and nasty compared to a traditional car with an ICE. Of course much of this is because of manufacturing and sourcing processes that are far from perfected.
- Anthony Citrano
A decent bike of any style costs less than the price difference between a Prius and a Corolla. Given the percentage of people who I work with who could commute via bike, potentially with a train or bus ride in between, but don't.... well... at least I can laugh all the way to the bank even if the rest of the country is busy polluting my air.
- Wirehead
The slowdown came when people realized that except for the golfcart that is the Pius, Hybrids don't get better gas mileage than the equivalent size/model standard engine. The Pius is the only thing on the road breaking 35mpg, and 4-cyl engines have been managing that for 30 years. My dad's 81 rabbit did that with a bad tune up.
- Matthew DeVries
If I could afford a second car, I'd buy a hybrid. Preferably another Prius.
- Nine
Current hybrids are just green window-dressing. They aren't viable (economically or environmentally) for 90% of buyers, much like the Tesla. Puff & hype, little substance.
- Steven Cains
I guessed that would happen, before you had to place orders in & wait for months
- sofarsoShawn
@sofarsosean that's why I don't have a Prius now. After mine got totaled, there was a 6-9 month waiting list. Right after I got a different car gas prices went down and there were Prius everywhere.
- Nine
IMO, the largest factor is that the Prius doesn't fit the average consumer's lifestyle. Is there a hybrid mini-van that has a lower TCO?
- Robert Hafer
I just drove through Texas today and almost every car was either a huge pickup or a huge SUV. And this is in a place where you need to drive a LOT to get from one place to another. It is Un American to keep buying these kinds of large cars. Getting people onto a hybrid is another argument altogether.
- Robert Scoble
The new Prius, coming out in May, has the best mileage of any car on the Californian market. The idea that hybrids don't get better mileage is wrong.
- Robert Scoble
@nine and why I had to forgo a 400rxh, which was my dream mobile, besides the waiting period it was also because they cost "that much more", over the long run you're not really saving any money unless you drive a lot
- sofarsoShawn
Lindsey: sending money to Saudi Arabia is about the most unamerican thing I can think of. Do you disagree? If you do, what is "American" to you and how would something be for or against such a concept? To me being American means treating women with respect. That doesn't go on in Saudi Arabia. Being American means having a representational democracy. That doesn't go on in Saudi Arabia. Being American means freedom to wear what you want. That doesn't go on in Saudi Arabia. Buying a big car is VERY un American
- Robert Scoble
I'm buying a new Prius even though it does cost more. Why? To encourage more R&D into new ways to save fuel. To me this is an American issue and we must solve it. Solving problems costs money. But if we get a better car that'll make my son's lives better, so to me that's worth the investment.
- Robert Scoble
@Lindsey - good catch, usually when I hear a word like that my guard goes way, way up. In fact, sometimes I wonder if calling something unAmerican is unAmerican by itself. And to Robert's statement: for many, there's nothing MORE American than buying a bigass Lincoln Navigator, putting a "Support The Troops" sticker on the back, and filling the tank up with fresh Saudi-derived gasoline.
- Anthony Citrano
Plus, I drive about 20,000 miles in a year, so I can actually make a case for paying for a hybrid's extra cost, especially in the Prius, which sold so well that it spread the R&D over a larger number of units.
- Robert Scoble
But Robert being an American is also thinking you have the God-given right to be an ignorant fuck. How else do you explain the last decade, my friend? Also, your logic fails a bit in the sense that it says to be a proper American you must prescribe your specific value sets to other cultures / nations. Also under your logic, then by extension purchasing gasoline at all - or, for that matter, anything plastic or derived from petroleum - is "unAmerican".
- Anthony Citrano
Lindsey: most of the Japanese car brands are manufactured here in America now too. Yes, freedom is an important American value, but thanks to 9/11, which was funded by Saudi Arabia (and everyone involved came from Saudi Arabia) this is now an American issue because they want to destroy the culture we have here. Add in the other stuff, like global warming, and cost (gas prices will go up again, especially now that OPEC has reduced production) and it's pretty un American to defend big cars.
- Robert Scoble
Anthony: the Saudis would love to take our culture and shove it down our throats. But, you are right on first point. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm sorry Robert but for someone I consider to be enlightened & open-minded, I find your nationalism a little surprising.
- Steven Cains
I ride public transit.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Cains: one answer: 9/11.
- Robert Scoble
Also - there's a difference between an "ignorant f***" and "insulated from the negative feedback resulting from your actions." Ignorance is not based on national affiliation, last time I checked.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
I don't really understand that. 9/11 was a small group of people, not everyone in Saudi Arabia is a terrorist. It's not like Saudi Arabia is the only oil producer either. I think your points on sustainability are justified, but I can't buy into this "us & them" mentality. I'll stop here, Apologies for taking this thread off-topic.
- Steven Cains
Robert: the objective of 9/11 was not to destroy our culture. Hearing that, I can't help but be reminded of Bush's "they hate us for our freedom."
- Anthony Citrano
Conversation reminds me of the Jared Diamond Long Now semiar http://preview.tinyurl.com/yorudm
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
I have the freedom to say it's unamerican to buy a big car. So be it. Anyone who wants to take away that freedom is unamerican too. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Saying that America's oil comes from the middle-east in particular Saudi Arabia is a long believed fiction perpetuated by Team America the. The fact is that the entire Middle East (not just Saudi Arabia) is third on the list of American oil imports http://www.nowpublic.com/money... so here in as #1 exporter to the US, Canada politely is waiting on our "Axis-of-Evil" designation then the following invasion. But agree with your value statement: on democracy/respect for others
- sofarsoShawn
Cains: it's not necessarily us vs. them. There's a reasonable amount of evidence that members of the Saudi Royal family, which benefits directly from us buying their oil, at least partly bankrolled Al Qaeda. Regardless, the Middle East is inherently unstable. So depending on the region for so much of our energy puts us at risk.
- Kevin Pedraja
Does that mean that blocking drilling in ANWAR or offshore is unAmerican.
- Robert Hafer
Robert is it unAmerican to call me unAmerican for calling you unAmerican for calling big cars unAmerican?
- Anthony Citrano
Robert: I support both of those things. Even though I live right by the shore you'll be drilling on, and even though I'm an environmentalist democrat. But, I think it's not one or the other. If I were God I'd electrify the car industry while doing a number of other things to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
- Robert Scoble
Anthony: something like that. Heheh. Mostly I just wanted to have a good conversation today about this topic. If we can't change how we look at the world we are doomed. If we keep assuming we can be reckless with energy (and that's really what buying big cars is) then we're going to leave a world for our kids that's going to be pretty damn tough to live in. We need to change our approach. This is a VERY important thread for all of humanity, not just Americans.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, true you do. However, everytime you say anything is unamerican it invokes the memory of McCarty. That illicits a very unfavorable reaction. But your point is noted- "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".
- Roberto Bonini
@Robert - agreed. There's little more important than talking about our reliance on fossil fuels. Best time to deal with it was back when we were ridiculing Carter for saying we needed to change our ways. But sooner is always better than later, and it's far better to be talking about it with oil at $45 than $150.
- Anthony Citrano
Roberto: one method a writer can use to get you to pay attention is to illicit a very unfavorable reaction. Keep the conversation going, this is good stuff.
- Robert Scoble
"putting a gun to the head" of consumers to buy the car you (or the government) thinks they should buy will always fail in the long run. Energy saving cars have to be cars people want to drive or they will stay an oddity.
- Robert Hafer
Even though I'd buy a Prius as my next car I still like photographing the big old American Cars more. They certainly have/had more style back then. Of course I suspect back then people didn't realize how bad those cars were. Just like everyone smoked and pregnant women drank martinis and Miller High Life.
- Thomas Hawk
So, Robert, I can count at least 10 problems caused by cars. A hybrid makes 2 of them a little better. An electric car makes those 2 go away but leaves at least 8 problems (think of things like traffic and parking in SF) and will create new ones. Even environmentalist democrats like yourself need to take a few more steps back.
- Wirehead
If the government wanted to reduce the reliance on foreign oil then they need to remove any tax paid on the hybrid cars plus raise a tax on gas. That effect of this it will raise the value of hybrid cars in the consumers mind, even in a recession. The rise in the fuel tax won't have a big effect on the economy as it was surviving at a higher price a year ago. However there does need to be a sensible cap on the tax rise unlike here in the UK. To be honest I would kill to pay $3/gall, I paid $7/Gall today.
- Paul Bainbridge
@Lindsey, et al: There are many reasons why continuing to expend massive amounts of oil are bad. The nice thing about the "dealing with countries who actively dislike us" is that it's a good catch-all for both the left and the right. Without oil, most of those countries would be banana republics with weird customs that only make the news on occasion.
- Wirehead
I don't know if I should say this considering the tension here: but I ❤ my SUV and it runs on baby seals. And on patriotism http://www.youtube.com/watch... this explains it much better than any words I could use.
- sofarsoShawn
You could drill heavily today and use the increased revenue to research safe nuclear reactors and rapid charge car batteries to make electic car green and viable for consumers.
- Robert Hafer
@Green no unfortunately I have to shove em in my tank still alive, it makes me feel guilty sometimes :( But then I get over it.
- sofarsoShawn
Would some one please explain to me what the difference is between buying middle east oil and Japanese cars? There are many American made cars, including hybrids, that are equal in all areas of quality and fuel economy, yet all I hear is Prius, Prius, Prius. Great car, but if you buy one it's still sending U.S. dollars to Japan. The 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid is coming soon and that's the vehicle that I would be considering if I was in the market for a hybrid.
- Clearlight
Marc: really? Please post the Consumer Reports reviews. Post the gas mileage rates. I'm looking to buy a Prius, which gets 50mpg (the new one, coming this summer). Let me know where all these great cars are. Keep in mind I currently own a GM car, and before that, had a Ford Focus. But the Prius (the new one) is way ahead of anything else I've seen.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, and Japan's society is a lot closer to our own than Saudi Arabia's is. If I had a choice I'd pick Japan right now any day.
- Robert Scoble
In fact, that's another point. I'm not buying a new car today because I know the new Prius is coming out in May. So, I'm waiting. And I'm definitely buying a Hybrid next time. I bet I'm not the only one, either (there's a waiting list at every dealer in San Francisco Bay Area already).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, the new Honda Insight is going to come in well below the Prius' sticker. Haven't touched it yet, but I'm supposed to demo one next month. Totally worth a look. Popular Mechanics liked it: http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs...
- Chris Baskind
Chris: I have looked. The Toyota's tech is a lot more advanced.
- Robert Scoble
I agree. It's -- what -- the 3rd generation? The Honda is going to do well, though.
- Chris Baskind
Which says enough how little concern the public has for environment. The price is what matters primarily and this, in my humble opinion, should be the tool to be used if we want results in the decrease of CO2 emission.
- lelapin
I'd like to think the answer is selling the American people on a targeted lockboxed tax (e.g. tax oil products solely to pay for infrastructure and research devoted to freeing us from a dependence on oil) but I suspect that the American population is too dumb even for that.
- Wirehead
Downside of doing pay-to-play media? Cisco asked us to pull down the video for now. Here's the details:
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Cisco asked us to unpublish that video until next month because it contained some info about one of its partners that is under embargo.
- Robert Scoble
We had to listen because they paid us to do those videos. If we had gotten those videos as regular journalists or bloggers we would have left them up and said "sorry, you don't get to pull them down."
- Robert Scoble
It will be back up after April 1.
- Robert Scoble
Judy: I really wish they would have thought about these issues before we had published. Makes us all look bad. But when partners are involved sometimes you can't see all the issues before publishing, unfortunately.
- Robert Scoble
This is why big companies don't give much access to real workers, though. Too many constituencies to serve. One team thinks they are OK to publish. Another team, after seeing them, says "um, gotta pull those down."
- Robert Scoble
Downside of pretend-journalism, indeed. Respectfully, you should get out of "real" journalism -- you're fouling the ocean.
- Dave Newton
is it a written agreement or not?!! but after all it is a moral agreement, the question to ask is the fellowing, will big company open doors to blogger any time and for any one?I doubt that they will do so often, the amazing fact is however they are big they can do efficient communication, why haven't do those video and to spread them using their own means (blog) or any thing? does big company weak in social ?
- abdellah
A couple questions come to mind... You knew the downside of taking the money so 1) why did you? Because of Rocky's situation? 2) Real journalism is blind to these money issues because they are "independent." If traditional papers are going bye-bye, where are we, the people, going to get our independent news from? With Rackable, you will still have some strings attached for certain issues, but at least I know in advance where you are coming from.
- Herschel
Anything about EZchip in there? Is that the partner? No, wait Marvell is re selling the EZchip into Cisco. That could be the partner. Network processing at wire speed!
- Stephen Pickering
So who exactly is Dave Newton? - "I'm a former broadcaster, advertising agency owner". What water are you swimming in Dave?
- Brian Sullivan
The question is, is it clear to the reader that the piece was paid for? If it is then its _just_ and advertisement and if its mixed in with regular journalism then it should be marked as such. Just as it is in the regular print media.
- Simon Lucy
Herschel: yes, partly. I was looking for ways to fund Rocky. I also knew I would get inside access no one else will ever get (which is true, I interviewed two guys who've been inside Cisco for decades who never give interviews). I also knew it would have downsides.
- Robert Scoble
So your passing on the money to noble causes is a kind of protest to the Cisco actions?
- Brian Sullivan
Dave: "real" journalists do pay-per-stuff too, they just do it under "advertorial" banners and often leave their names off of it. Ansel Adams did his art, and he also worked for Polariod and Kodak. People who make media need to make money and as long as people are transparent and disclose when they have conflicts they should be allowed to decide what they want to do.
- Robert Scoble
@Brian -Since this is FriendFeed, it was pretty easy to find Dave Newton's LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Brian: my passing on the money is one way to demonstrate that my judgment was not corrupted. Yes.
- Robert Scoble
I thought this line was hilarious: "Real journalism is blind to these money issues because they are 'independent.'"
- Paul Rodriguez
Daniel -- yes I know -- where do you think the quote was from? I was trying to determine which side of the fence Dave Newton is currently on.
- Brian Sullivan
there was one part of that video that unfortunately had some details that made one of our partners uncomfortable until their announcement. It will go back up, unedited, after the embargo is released. (I work at Cisco- http://blogs.cisco.com/authors...)
- Douglas Gourlay
Douglas works for Cisco and is part of the team who hired us to do two days of interviews with the top geeks and team.
- Robert Scoble
I thought Douglas worked for Cisco data center side? Is "intel" a Freudian slip related to the partner who wanted the video removed?
- Dane
Dane: I fixed my comment. Douglas works for Cisco.
- Robert Scoble
Ansel Adams is a photographer - not a journalist. There's a big difference. I think you deserve credit for being transparent, Robert, but you did take the money and sell your services to Cisco. My concern is we'll seeing more of this as traditional media collapses: http://tinyurl.com/djw4qs
- George F. Snell III
Dark: right, maybe not a good comparison. I do think we'll see a lot more of this too, though. On the other side, though, brands like ReadWrite Web are getting more and more popular because they don't allow people to do these kinds of things. Me? My Microsoft experience taught me that being inside lets me get some kinds of content and that as long as I'm transparent about it so my readers will know my potential conflicts of interest I don't see a problem with it.
- Robert Scoble
My point about Ansel, though, was that if you want to do your "pure" stuff, aka "art" or "pure journalism" then you've gotta find ways to pay your rent. I don't mind it when people do both "pure" and "paid" as long as they tell me when they are getting paid so I know it's not "pure."
- Robert Scoble
Ansel's son mentioned to me that Ansel approached his photography differently when he was doing it for himself or when he was doing it for Kodak (he did advertising photos that hung in Grand Central Station for Kodak, which is something I didn't realize about Ansel). Oh, and a photographer +is+ a journalist. Ansel's photos of the West are VERY important today as they document a bunch of stuff that doesn't exist today.
- Robert Scoble
I would much rather have people reporting information be honest, declare their potential bias or lack of objectivity and state the reasons in a straightforward transparent fashion than to blindly claim they are unbiased and totally objective. Nobody is completely unbiased.
- Brian Sullivan
I have no problem with scoble (or anyone) taking the money for work of this type as long as they are clear about it. It gave Cisco the control they wanted (its a shame that this happened but thats what they paid for). I can understand the problem if he was reviewing a product or even worse doing a group test ("i thought hte flip mini was the best camera and by the way thanks to flip for the large brown envelope full of cash i recieved). I say get off Robert's back He did a good thing g and gave us a great r
- Jamie Vidamour
this bullshit about buying a place in Twitter Suggested Followers is really pissing me off
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I warned you when I first saw this. This is a corruptible feature. It INVITES this kind of nonsense.
- Robert Scoble
I think i missed some drama whilst traveling
- andy brudtkuhl
if I wasn't feeling so ill right now I'd be working on rant on how wrong this is .. maybe tomorrow after I get back from our doctor's appointment and I'm feeling better .. I can't even describe how many ways from wrong this is
- Steven Hodson
Steven: what was wrong was Twitter's poor decision making process here (and poor selection of algorithms). They screwed their community and they really don't care about what they are doing here. Defaults are important. They communicate a lot about what kind of community you want using your service. There's a LOT to attack here from a variety of different angles. Here's one: let's assume you're religious. Now, why is Dooce a default? What does that communicate about Twitter's choices? Not good, me says.
- Robert Scoble
What does it matter? Why are you basing authority on the number of followers someone has? Let Calacanis and others waste their money.
- Mark Trapp
Mark: it has nothing to do with number of followers. That's level one. Look deeper. Think about what it communicates to the community. Compare to how friendfeed's recommended feature works (totally different, friendfeed's is FAR better thought out and is not corruptible).
- Robert Scoble
There's a community on Twitter? They got lucky all the early adopters brought their communities TO Twitter.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
@Mark .. because for better or worse those "default" people in the list will be among those selected by new comers especially as Twitter moves forward into the mainstream. The very fact that they are there in the list will give the average user signing up for the first the idea that they are the people to follow.
- Steven Hodson
The defaults a community has tells you what kind of community it will become. Go subscribe to ONLY the default list over on Twitter. Tell me what you learn. I have a whole list and I've noticed a substantial change in Twitter's community since it was turned on. They did severe harm and don't even know why. I'm not telling them, either, without a consulting fee.
- Robert Scoble
Steven: go deeper. This is like an onion. I reacted the same way, with emotion at first. That's layer one. There's a bunch of layers to this one. Stop thinking emotionally and just look at what that communicates to a community.
- Robert Scoble
Are there people who actually purchase heavily followed Twitter accounts? There are techniques people employ to gain followers with no particular agenda or content--is this to sell the account to someone who may think they can use this audience--or is it just cyber-vandalism? (spamming to gain followers)
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Steven: here's another layer to the onion. Visit the follower list of anyone on this list. Here's TechCrunch's follower list: http://twitter.com/TechCru... Now click on 100 followers. Do you notice anything weird? I sure do. These are NOT real people!
- Robert Scoble
the potential audience you can get by being included there is so huge...is this unexpected behavior for people who think bigger is better?
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Rob: anytime you can build an audience that has specific attributes that will have value. I totally expect people to sell their Twitter accounts at some time in the future. I'm willing to pay Jason Calacanis $5,000 to write five tweets to his followers, for instance. That's a form of that kind of financial pressure.
- Robert Scoble
@LAG so buying your audience is acceptable? if so then this whole Social Media thing really is nothing more than a scam
- Steven Hodson
It'd probably be more efficient to just pay straight up for followers. That is, say, 10cents per follower, 50cents... whatever. Then Twitter could just give you as many "impressions" on the Recommended list as it took to get to that number. They could even add "Recommendations" to every page. Not ads, of course... "Recommendations" Based on the content of that page or who you're already...
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- Ken Sheppardson
@Robert I'll look at all this tomorrow .. right now I need Nyquil :) but I'll be watching this until I pass out
- Steven Hodson
I was just thinking this in Subway @Scoble & his first comments re: Leo Laporte & the suggested followers [backtype] then I ate my sub
- sofarsoShawn
@Steven: no, no, no...not saying it's acceptable to me. but the size of the audience draws the kind of "monetize these many eyeballs" kinds of people who buy their way into everything. suits, and that ilk. to them, it's acceptable behavior, because they buy audiences, they don't grow them.
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.LAG: exactly. Which is one reason why I am liking friendfeed more and more. Have you noticed that @biz and @ev rarely participate in building a community while Paul and Bret at friendfeed participate a lot more in the community? Look at all of their different feeds. Here, let me post those in here:
- Robert Scoble
Paul Buchheit: http://friendfeed.com/paul (co-founder of friendfeed).
- Robert Scoble
Evan Williams: http://twitter.com/ev (co-founder of Twitter). Interestingly enough he's been participating more lately.
- Robert Scoble
Bret Taylor: http://friendfeed.com/bret (co-founder of friendfeed).
- Robert Scoble
Jack Dorsey: http://twitter.com/jack (co-inventor of Twitter). Interesting that he doesn't give credit to the other inventor, http://twitter.com/noah
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: right, right, right. but there WAS a time when the Twitter founders were more active in the community. i've been on it since 2007. perhaps the size of the community passed a tipping point were it's just too unsustainable. don't know...i mean, come on, ashton kutcher has nearly 298K followers, how can anyone interact with an audience like that?
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Sanjeev Singh: http://friendfeed.com/sanjeev (co-founder of friendfeed).
- Robert Scoble
LAG: I've been on Twitter since 2006 and I've been hanging around Ev since 2000. He doesn't get involved in the community at the same level that others have and that's been pretty consistent. But, who cares? He's a lot richer than I am.
- Robert Scoble
I love that http://twitter.com/noah helped invent Twitter and even HE isn't on the suggested follower list while other execs at Twitter are. Shows another way how corruptible this list is.
- Robert Scoble
Robert and Steven: I see one of two arguments being made: 1) that the suggested users are being construed as being somehow representative of the "proper" use of Twitter, and because they aren't using Twitter as you want it to be used, having a bunch of people mimic the suggested users would be detrimental. If this is the argument, get over it. Communities are organic: Facebook isn't the...
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- Mark Trapp
The other argument I can see is that the people on the suggested list are being forced on new subscibers who don't know anything about Twitter and thus they will only learn what the suggested list tells them. If this is the argument, I think you miss the method by which late adopters adopt things. They don't join services blindly and hope something happens: someone, or several people,...
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- Mark Trapp
Mark: Facebook never had a default set of users. In fact, they kept people like me from building huge following communities. I disagree about how late adopters are getting into Twitter. Lately every TV and radio station has been mentioning Twitter. These people are joining Twitter without having any friends, so they choose the defaults. That experience is lame and not personal so they don't get the usage of Twitter and so they leave. This is why Techcrunch has follower after follower who don't engage.
- Robert Scoble
http://www.noahglass.com/2008... -- the story behind Twitter's beginnings. Interesting that Noah isn't on the suggested follower list. He helped to invent Twitter and now seems to be on the "outs" with the current administration. Shows how corruptible this list is. If you aren't "in" with @ev you will be punished and written out of history (look at Jack's Twitter description, he doesn't acknowledge Noah at all).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, but they aren't joining without knowing anyone: I hear it all day on MSNBC when they cover it, "Follow Contessa Brewer and the rest of the MSNBC team," or "Follow me on Twitter, http://twitter.com/ricksan...," or a celebrity talks about Twitter, they're searching for that celebrity. Take a look at what happened when you and Louis Gray started evangelizing FriendFeed: you...
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- Mark Trapp
After catching up on this issue, I'm glad I started on Twitter last year before this garbage started. Feels like high school clique time. You can only be popular IF .... I'll stick to the people who I like to read and vice versa, thank you very much.
- ursi
Mark: you need to study the followers that are joining lately. They are demonstrating you are wrong in your assumptions. Now why that is the case is up for debate (I say they are fake accounts and Twitter is propping up its numbers, but @ev says they are real people). But go over to any of the people on the suggested list and look at their followers. They look NOTHING like the people who follow me.
- Robert Scoble
And Robert: I'm arguing that Facebook didn't need a suggested users list to change drastically in community tone over the years. It changed when they started adding more colleges. It changed again when they started adding high schoolers, and again when they let anyone join. Once it got insanely popular, it changed again. Communities evolve: if it wasn't the suggested person list,...
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- Mark Trapp
Robert: if they are fake accounts, how does it negatively impact anyone's experience? The only thing fake accounts do is inflate follower count numbers, which you said has nothing to do with this issue.
- Mark Trapp
Mark: I agree with that, but Facebook is far more engaged than Twitter is and has a far larger audience than Twitter does too. Twitter is in risk of burning out like a meteor who gets very bright and very hot and then hits the ground. As it sees more and more spam and broadcasting style types of people it has risks of losing a lot of people. Facebook had other "hooks" to hold its audience in place (Facebook is like velcro, Twitter is like a piece of string).
- Robert Scoble
...and something about the twitter default list seems like fraud ...
- ursi
Robert: if you're worried about spam and broadcasters, look at email: we all use it to great effect even though 90-95% of all email is spam. (And by the way, FriendFeed is a little too realtime, I feel like I'm one and a half responses behind)
- Mark Trapp
Steven - yep, this is "bullshit" - more elite crap from Silly Valley. This has to stop. Twitter is loosing credibility with the business and tech community when they resort to playground antics and popularity contests. Don't they have Advisors to help them not commit such obvious faux paux? Geesh! Arrogance, youth and lack of insight is really hurting twitter right now.
- Susan Beebe
Mark: here's something to think about. If there are people creating lots of fake accounts, why are they doing that? To prop up numbers? To spam everyone like someone did to my followers recently? To do something else? Or, are they really real people but just ones that haven't followed anyone and haven't written any Tweets? They make the system seem lame. I found a lot of cool people in first year or two by looking at followers of other people. Look at Techcrunch right now. Lame, lame, lame.
- Robert Scoble
How could a list be formed that wasn't fraudulent in one way or another? Do it by the numbers? We know numbers don't indicate quality. Do it by a curator? Well they have poor taste. It's not clear there's anyway to do this list, so why not money?
- Todd Hoff
Todd: numbers actually DO tell a big part of the story. The people who have accounts that have the most engagement, for instance (most liked posts, most commented on posts) ARE better than 99.9999% of the other friendfeeders (I've been tracking that stuff manually and the value there is HUGE).
- Robert Scoble
Todd: even follower numbers DO tell a story. In my experience the most popular bloggers generally DO do better content on average than other people. So, if you use a real algorithmic approach that can get you a LOT further than the Twitter list did. The real trick is to not make it a default, show the list like a menu in a restaurant (pick and choose your favorites) and make the list infinite (I've followed 17,000 people here and friendfeed still is suggesting more people to me).
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I have no idea what they're doing, but you take past examples of email and usenet, they seem to be a natural progression of any communications platform. And Usenet and Email are two opposite extremes: what was different about Email that allowed it to survive a massive influx of lame users and lame activity? I'm thinking it's the same thing that makes Facebook work: it's not that...
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- Mark Trapp
The restaurant everyone goes to doesn't always have the best food. It's often just the small network effect of recommendations. I've tracked this :-) Using that as the metric for building a list would still be fraudulent. For example, if you post something you'll have more likes in one post than I'll have for the rest of my life. I would still humbly say there's some worthwhile content in my humble space.
- Todd Hoff
Mark: you are matching the thinking here on friendfeed. Notice that you can't see my follower counts. You also can't see who is following me. That's very interesting social engineering. Also, everything in friendfeed is decentralized. No one has the same experience here. That too is why I really love friendfeed. It also makes it a bit hard to get into.
- Robert Scoble
Todd: on average, though, restaurants that are popular have better food than ones that don't. I've tracked this too. You're wrong, by the way, about how friendfeed works. Liking puts YOUR stuff into my followers' view. So, your thesis is TOTALLY WRONG. You'll have just as many likes as I will. Why? Cause I'll like your stuff, putting it into my audience's view.
- Robert Scoble
WOW Friendfeed is like the last noble social media hold out....
- sofarsoShawn
I don't give a shit about it because I don't count followers. And I didn't get into it to make money.
- Graham English
As long as I'm totally totally wrong Robert. I've never found your average case in my experience Robert. Popular restaurants are usually popular for the same reason TV shows are popular, they are bland enough not to offend the majority. You rarely if ever like my stuff, no hard feelings, so the trickle down theory doesn't really apply here either. And depending on the fickle trickle also strikes me as a fraudulent approach. It still does not directly address quality.
- Todd Hoff
My theory on these astronomical numbers: Spammers are running bots to create new Twitter accounts - probably hundreds a day. When the bots hit the Suggested Users page, they just accept the default users because, chances are, some percentage of those users are auto-following (an easy way for the bot to gain followers and look semi-credible on a statistical basis). So these pumped up numbers are totally bogus. Out of 200K followers for an account like @techcrunch I'll bet that over 50% are bots.
- Mike Doeff
Mike: I totally agree. Todd: I just looked over your friendfeed. There's some stuff there that I missed and clicked like on, but you have pretty eclectic tastes. I can see where you're coming from. I disagree with you. There's a reason why sushi or fine scotch whiskey are a little unattainable for most people and aren't that popular. They are acquired tastes and not for the masses.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Is Dooce supposed to be some sort of atheist icon or something? Sure she mentions her conservative surroundings and upbringing regularly, but I can't imagine she completely alienates religious readers. Most of her content is pretty universal from a "this is what it's like having a family" POV.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Calacanis move is a move he's done time and again. He did this to Fark about 10 years ago, getting their ad guy fired. He has deep pockets, the "Big Stack" if you will. He's using the power of the big stack to force Twitter all-in or fold. If I had Calacanis money that's exactly what I'd be doing. Kind of like Redford in that Demi more hooker movie.
- Matthew DeVries
Daniel: I have seen complaints about the language she uses. Imagine you have no idea who she is. Now imagine your thoughts if you see her recommended by Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Bah, lots of the alpha bloggers in Valley culture cuss all day, too. You're now talking about a Disneyfied take on Twitter. I imagine censorship of that stripe would really dampen the spread and value of microblogs.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
my thought would be more "bleh, there's one to avoid following" rather than "the entire site is filled with people I find deeply offensive". I do see the point that the recommended list doesn't represent the average users, it merely shows those with the deepest pockets or the bigger army of fans.
- alphaxion
Do you think they'd accept a crisp fiver? I want 200,000 followers
- sofarsoShawn
Can we just accept Scoble's naming of Dooce as a "For example hypothetical" and stop picking it apart. Holy shit people THERE'S THE POINT, GO CATCH IT! *points in the other direction*
- Matthew DeVries
Daniel: if you want the mainstream you have to care about this crap. Half of Americans voted for McCain, remember?
- Robert Scoble
Has anyone asked the Twitter ppl if they plan on rotating that list of recommendations from time to time?
- Sarah Perez
I was thinking the "Dooce alienates McCain voters" problem could be solved by segmenting the recommendations into topical lists, but then I realized that cramming Dooce into a "gleefully vulgar unrepentant ex-Mormon Mommy Bloggers" niche would be ghettoizing her.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Matthew DeVries: It's too bad we can't effectively splinter this discussion in multiple directions on FF. Oh well, at least we're talking.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Netflix recommends movies based on categories and refined by "likes". That would get new users started following things that appeal to them.
- Robert Hafer
Wow.... interesting how this tiny little aspect of the service has become such a hot spot. I'm guessing this shows that, most of all, Twitter is important. :-)
- Jason Calacanis
sound like sour grapes regarding scoble etc, are people saying they SHOULD be on the list? why? don't like the fact others are getting more followers...yet they say size of followers don't matter so much... sheesh...
- Rob Sellen :o)
I so agree with you on this Steven
- Charlie Anzman
I bet Calacanis could probably just get some chick to tattoo his face on her breasts for a lot less money and get just as much attention.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas thatis both super funny and true!!
- Susan Beebe
Scobleizer TV: Part II, Tim O’Reilly steers us to a post-web-2.0 world - http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
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Great Interview..you guys have no idea (or do you?) how critical the information you share and the social network symbiosis with regular folks like me. I am so thrilled to be in the same virtual proximity to you and the likes of Tim OReilly. I have been on a journey I started in the jungles of Belize that have brought me to NYC.."High Tech Retribalization" A Vision I cannot stop living..And then I met the minds such as yourself. Virtually :) Thanks
- bcultral
Robin, that's such a nice thing to say. Thank you! Happy new years, more to come next year!
- Robert Scoble
I look forward to it Robert..Happy New Year to you and yours!!!
- bcultral
!!! SNOW PICTURES !!! Here's some pics I snapped around the house today!
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Here's pics of my neighborhood and some from inside our house
- Susan Beebe
Another FOOT of snow is forecasted for tomorrow night
- Susan Beebe
neato!
- Adam Lasnik
Lovely!
- Mitchell Tsai
Looks beautiful, but cold!
- Anne Bouey
pretty, Susan! :)
- Anna Haro
That kitty is doing it right.
- Derrick
lol...for reals, D.
- Anna Haro
awesome. comfy kitteh!
- Josh Haley
Anne - it is COLD! brrrrr!!
- Susan Beebe
Little cold Susan ??? 9 F here at 9 AM Monday (before the Wind Chill!!)
- Charlie Anzman
greetings from Italy!!...in a foggy Milan
- Simone Lovati
Drew Olanoff shared as favorite Jason Calacanis’ “Project A” is surprisingly compelling Mahalo Answers - http://venturebeat.com/2008...
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"For the past couple of years, I’ve been studying the intersection of individuals and three Internet services: search, content and knowledge exchanges (aka KEs). These three products–or processes–serve individuals by helping them solve their real-world problems, and all three services have been booming over the years."
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I met Jason just this past Thursday. Cool guy. Very busy too. LOL. Let's see how this service goes.
- Amani
Wow, You've met him? That's so cool!
- Anthony Farrior
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"Mahalo, the human-powered search engine launched in 2007 has added another facet to its angle of curated web content – a Q&A feature called Mahalo Answers. What sets it apart from similar services such as Yahoo Answers and the now defunct Google Answers is that people who use the service are encouraged to ‘tip’ those who answer their burning questions."
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survived day 1 without diet coke. thinking i'll go for day 2
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suggest getting caffeine free diet coke and mixing it half and half with diet coke for a week. cold turkey does NOT work.
- Jason Calacanis
Sounds like Jason speaks from experience. Cutting back sucks.
- Louis Gray
You are a bigger man than me, I have a Diet Coke in my hand already at 10:00am.
- Ambar Pansari
Think of all the aspartam you are getting, and you´ll be straight back on regular coke.
- Thomas Bøhm
I kind of miss the days when breakfast was a diet coke and a cigarette in the car. Now it's just the diet coke. An improvement but still a ways to go
- Riona MacNamara
never drink diet soda
- Eric
I went cold turkey, worked for me. The trick for me is to drink plenty of liquid (water) and have a little sugar (like a candy) to satisfy my sweet tooth. I have a soda on the weekends. So far, i've been free for 4 months.
- David Bisset (sn)
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