As mentioned earlier today, Twitter seems to have capped your ability to follow at 2,000 people, which just so happens to be exactly where I am. The goal, in theory, is to stop marketing-oriented spammers, but it could be another way to reduce stress on the system. So what should I do now, delete "less favored" people, or wait for Twitter to figure this out?
- Louis Gray
from email
Maybe it's the legacy talking, but I'm really not bothered by this. :P
- l0ckergn0me
I can see why they do it, but it does suck for the people who do it legitimately and are not using stupid mass follow scripts.
- David Risley
I'm not super-concerned either, but it does answer why all of a sudden, I started getting these errors last week. It could be part of their "Making Progress On Spam" initiative via the blog, but it hasn't been spelled out all that clearly.
- Louis Gray
let blame this one on Scobles... :)-
- Peter Dawson
Louis, I think cap is more of the architecture the system. Making it into a more robust platform. Now watermarks have been set, it becomes easier to build consistency of experience and application behavior. <Edit > wait for Twitter to figure it out.. Marketing spammers are targeting the 'stupid' one that have the auto follow !!
- Peter Dawson
gotta like it, if I'm the one you are trying to follow!
- Ben Hedrington
I don't think there should be limits like this, but I guess everything can't be infinite
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I honestly am indifferent about it; Twitter is going to hell and i tried my best to convert it; oh well, Hell has cookies
- Gordon Swaby
I"m only following 49... with 106 followers..
- Ian May
so what do you think, Louis, is benhedrington worth going to the mat for?
- Nathan Rein
I'm sure I can find someone to unfollow in exchange for Ben.
- Louis Gray
Twitter needs to build in groups functionality a la tweetdeck for following 2K+ to even be practical.
- Nicholas Molnar
Louis: You need to convince the new people to head over here :)
- Justin Korn
I'm just curious what the rationale is for following that many people.
- Paul Rodriguez
Well, maybe that's why Louis always seems to know what's going on before anybody else.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I've noticed that most of the time I get followed by somebody with a big number, it tends to be marketing play. It triggers the email to you and then you go look and click on their bio link which takes you to the pitch. Very irritating. I always block em.
- Mark Schulz
@Paul Rodriguez, I was wondering that too. I wouldn't have even guessed there are 2000 interesting people in the world </cynicism>, but what fascinate me is that i'm following like 83 people and only about 14 of them tweet regularly. I can assume most of those 2000 do not tweet regularly. Add in the fact that I'm a WAHM to two toddlers, and do other stuff, there'd be a lot of stuff I'd miss.
- Admiral Anika
New profit center? Sorry, but now you'll have to join Twitter Pro ....
- Charlie Anzman
Very interesting. System limits is going to be a topic that we all work through in this early phase of the Social Web. It seems to me that it's reasonable to cap the number one follows to 1,000 or 2,000. On the flipside, one would clearly like to enable a very high number of followers. With respect to bi-directional connections, the real number should max at 1,000 to 2,000...
- John McCrea
This is awesome! Incidentally, Scoble (@Scobleizer) is still following over 30K.
- Vincent van Wylick
So where is the point following 30k people? You might as well hit the main timeline. The only thing that is bad about this limit is that it was not there from the beginning.
- Alexander Kohlhofer
so what's going to happen to those who follow over 2000?
- Wayne Sutton
you follow two. thousand. people.??? never mind twitter; there may be a law against that.
- jeneane sessum
I like the new limit. I cannot see how anyone would be able to legitimately follow (and pay attention to) more than 2,000 people. Frankly, even that limit seems higher than it needs to be. If it helps keep Twitter a little more stable, go for it.
- Dennis Metzcher
Couple thoughts: the limit impacts the ability to use the service as a direct message router -- for some people. It also reinforces the need for dectralized microblogging -- so if you want exceed the limits you can do so on your own infrastructure. Lastly, nothing prevents you from following everyone or a subset of people through RSS/feeds.
- Chris Messina
Are we sure that Twitter has set a 2,000 limit are or we cranking up the rumor mill? I've seen image before with respect to my own account - an account which just reached 1,000 followers today. According the Twitter rep who contacted me, I got - ahem - put in "Twitter Prison" for "Aggressive Following" My ratio of Followers to Following was kinda out of whack - at that time I had only ~800 people following me while I was following ~2,800 - They suspended my ability to follow more people. I removed 2K.
- Vincent Wright
I don't understand the motivation for following 2K people if you're not a spammer... someone explain?
- Jason Carreira
Jason: For a entrepreneur/VC/angel networker, it would be very easy to hit 2,000 contacts (assuming you used Twitter like a rolodex). From one networking meeting, I might pick up 0-100+ business cards (more at conferences), and during a heavy season I could be doing 7-10 meetings/week. As a angel, I might want to follow 5,000-10,000+ projects/people. Anyone might have a really good project 2-10+ years down the pipe... I've got cartons/boxes of 3-ring binders of business cards in plastic sheets.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell @Charlie - Rumors aside, do you think the cap is a gesture towards monetization? Going after the power networkers? Seems you would have good cause to pay for a Twitter Pro, or would it just not be worth it?
- joneilortiz
I use Twitter as both a professional development tool (following people who say useful and interesting things abt health / edtech / social media / libraries ...), a personal tool (friends and folk who are amusing), and a reference tool (following a lot of news streams and information resources). You can hit 2000 fast. A friend says that people are imagining new ways in which Twitter could be used, but Twitter seems bound and determined to force them back into some small box of how it "ought" to be.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I would happily follow more than 2000 people, heck I am almost there. And I don't need to see every message. With Tweetdeck it's manageable. I see some Friendfeed users here have thousands to tens of thousands of subscriptions, should we also say it's good to have a cap here? No, please no. I understand that perhaps it has to do with monetization or stressing the system less, these are alas viable reasons.
- Jacob
Oh, weren't you bitching about FF stupid posts not making you smarter last week? Well, here ya go. No more bitching. We get to talk about bacon again.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
well we know what tomorrow's caption contest will be on Valleywag :-)
- Duncan Riley
There have been too many pics of his naked chest this week.
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Yeah, I don't care how many people take pictures of themselves in the shower, I'm not gonna join in that memefest. No thank you. Besides you've already seen my brother in the shower...Remove some weight, adjust the nose a bit and you've got me too...ugh...that's just so wrong.
- Alex Scoble
Tina: I hope they don't do a shower meme. I'm not going to take a picture of myself in the shower, no matter how drunk you get me. *lol*
- Molly, "sorry"
Is this your entry for the bitch face meme? It's a very disappointingly happy bitch face.
- Pete Delucchi
With all that flyin' around, Twittering, and Friendfeeding, he's gotta need 3 or 4 showers a day. The question is ..... Which soap is he plugging ? :)
- Charlie Anzman
I hope it's lever 2000 messing with Valleywag :)
- Anthony Farrior
This is a dollar bill taped to the floor of FriendFeed's headquarters. It's a bit of social engineering. They figured out it kept people from tripping on the cord cover because people noticed the money on the floor.
- Robert Scoble
The dollar bill trick doesn’t work with strippers though ;)
- Moved to Facebook
@Earl: Consider it a stripper-filter, then. You know someone's a stripper if they trip over it.
- April Buchheit
for some reason i expect a "stripper filter" to be something coded using regular expressions. sad, i know.
- Karim
The message here is that Web 2.0 companies are so ignorant of money and revenue that they even step over a dollar on the floor
- Jason Carreira
from twhirl
Interesting. The photo has been viewed more than 500 times, but has only earned 62 likes and 19 comments. So, for every 1 thing we can see here there's another 9 people hanging out lurking in the shadows.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble the old 90-9-1 rule :) (well almost)
- Naor Mark
You could always just superglue some road kill to those things. Nothing gets people's attention more than a dead opossum.
- Andrew Leyden
Heath And Safety in the UK would not approve....but I do!
- Toby Graham
"but has only earned 62 likes". This currently stands as the most-liked Flickr photo of all time.
- Raphael, Raphael
I forgot about that photo. It does work, though. Everytime I visit friendfeed's offices I see the dollar and I'm careful not to trip over it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
That's dumb. Why couldn't they afford to run the cord somewhere where it wouldn't be in the way in the first place?
- Robert Peña
As an IE I can state that's definitely not something to publicize. Definitely not OSHA Kosher.
- Adi
Reminds me of the deli counter in grocery store in Scotts Valley across the street from NorCal offices of MetaCreations (the Fractal Design arm of it). Local companies'd go there for lunch daily. PROBLEM: Deli counter pencils (for marking your sandwich menu) disappeared at frightful rate. SOLUTION: Deli affixed pencils with price label. Price: $100.00. Pencils stayed at store. :)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Haha I like that trick for keeping Pens from going missing Susan!
- Garin Kilpatrick
"Some films are "must-see," but "Watchmen" is more than that: Zack Snyder's masked-man epic is the "must-discuss" movie of 2009. Like some spandex-cinema version of "Eyes Wide Shut," "The Passion of the Christ" or "Fight Club," the movie has divided not only the critics but also the paying audience and, in a curious way, stirred debate among people who haven't even seen it. "Watchmen" is the torrid topic on Twitter, an ongoing soapbox subject at YouTube, and the inspiration of a free-for-all on Facebook. One of my old friends has changed his Facebook photo to a frowning yellow face to mourn the movie's failure; one of my other pals has changed his image to the pulsing blue face of Dr. Manhattan to celebrate the film's triumph. For fans of the bestselling graphic novel of all time, it's not enough to see the $150-million adaptation, they must weigh in whether it is Epic Film or Epic Fail."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Personally, I thought the film had outsized amibition, an obvious passion for the source material and some truly great moments (that staggeringly good early montage sequence, the sequence where Dr. Manhattan slides back-and-forth through time recounting his life journey and, well, pretty much any scene with Jackie Earle Haley) but long chunks where it feels somewhat hollow. I found...
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- RAPatton
"Snyder somehow managed to get a major studio to make a movie with no stars, no "name" superheroes and a hard R-rating, thanks to all those broken bones, that oddly off-putting Owl Ship sex scene and, of course, the unforgettable glowing blue penis. I think there's a good chance that, like "Fight Club," this movie will echo in pop culture for quite a while and become a landmark moment that will take on different contours when viewed in hindsight. Not everyone agrees with me, of course ..."
- RAPatton
Watchmen was good, but I was definitely glad I knew the plot going in so I could focus on the details. What really failed for me in Watchmen was the soundtrack.... The songs chosen were too obvious and well known, didn't add to the overall tone of the movie, and didn't hang together as a collection the way something like an all 80's pop-punk soundtrack or original score would have.
- Jason Carreira
I hope not, because Fight Club sucked metric ass
- Matthew DeVries
This will be useful for planning for fantasy football playoffs, and starting to think about which teams will succeed, and which players to pick up. Our league is very competitive this year: http://www5.myfantasyleague.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
Carolina - Pittsburgh sounds about right.
- Steve Lowe
Actually, this came out of my brother and i discussing that crystal meth busts go way up this time of year. People are trying to earn holiday money. Which is pretty sad.
- Chris Baskind
Peter, the real question is how many insurance claims will go in CLAIMING it's from deep frying turkeys when it waas really the meth lab that blew?
- Cyndy
I think that's the midwest more than the south
- Jason Carreira
You haven't been to northern Escambia County, Florida, huh?
- Chris Baskind
Sounds like the south and the northwest!
- Brian Bufalo
What do mac people use for a free encrypted zip program to transfer files between mac and windows owners? There are for pay versions, but asking a client to pay $40 so they can get a file from you isn't cool. There has to be a way people do this.
Is there a windows version so I can compress and encrypt on windows and have mac people uncompress and decrypt? Sorry to be so ignorant of mac basics.
- Todd Hoff
if it doesn't require a password, you can right-click on a file in the Finder and select "Compress [whatever its called]" and that creates a zip file
- Glenn Batuyong
Well, if you re-read, there was a PodShow podcast there that had a good candid interview with the governor that was pretty revealing of her personality. Podcast = social media. There is also this SP Facts meme going around on Twitter and FriendFeed. Twitter and FriendFeed are social networks/social media utilities/W2.0 services. Still confused, or do I need to break it down some more?
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
And with that logic Mashable is about anything and everything. How silly of you to even question it. Pshaw!
- Jim Stanger
Nope... just waiting for online porn to run.
- Cyndy
Here we go. Look, it's not the first time we've posted news tangential to social media. It isn't the first time that someone in the tech blogosphere has done that, for that matter. This is silly.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Ok, Mashable, to bring my part in this thread home thanks for exposing me to Alaska Podshow. Gotta check more of those eps out. Also, it's great to see the human normal-person side of this new VP candidate. Heh, in the interview she calls her husband Alaska's First Dude. Nice. Wish I could see similar interviews with all the other major canidates pre-national spotlight. McCain would be easier...Obama perhaps not so much. Dunno...
- Jim Stanger
Mona says real geeks don't watch TV. One has to assume she's not a Whedon fan if she missed Dr. Horrible.
- Cyndy
The vast majority of geek culture comes from TV. Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Doctor Who, Mystery Science Theater 3000, Futurama, the Simpsons, Stargate: SG1, Babylon 5, Firefly: the list goes on and on.
- Mark Trapp
Well, by Mark's definition of "geek", I'm out as well. Sorry guys. I've been living a lie...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Buck Rogers, now that's pre-history geek right there. Stone tablets and everything.
- Mark Trapp
What about Gorgeous Tiny Chicken Machine Show?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I didn't define "geek": I merely made the claim that a lot of geek culture comes from TV. Chances are, if you're a geek and you're making an inside geek joke or quoting something geeky, it's made its way from TV. Know your roots.
- Mark Trapp
I know I'm old, but I figured they might have shown Buck (hehe, you should have seen my Freudian!) Rogers in syndication.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Does that make me a real geek then? I almost never watch TV, except video online sometimes, and a few UK TV shows that I download.
- Ian May
I thought using Linux before it was actually cool made me a geek...or teaching myself programming while in grade school. I guess "geek" means a lot of things to different people though. I'm not really into the geek culture as far as comics, shows, and movies go. Maybe just different types of geeks? :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
LOL Rahsheen. It's immersion levels. Most of us did that too. Maybe it's about living as a nerd full-time?
- Cyndy
Again, nobody said that not watching TV didn't make you a geek. Insisting that real geeks don't watch TV denies that what makes geekdom great. GNU and Linux are strewn with Star Trek, Simpsons, Babylon 5, and Battlestar Galatica references: those people aren't real geeks? Please.
- Mark Trapp
@mona ...'racist'? for ripping you about TV? wow. so what can one use for anyone who expresses any anti-obama sentiments?
- .LAG liked that
Chances are, if I'm making an inside geek joke or quoting something geeky, it's made its way from Usenet.
- Bruce Lewis
The Guild isn't TV, is it? I've only seen it on YouTube. Mona, it's priceless. Just trust us. Go there.
- Laura Norvig
Young whipper-snappers; what about Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea? And now you can watch it on hulu.com
- Robert Hafer
I think I was seriously off in a small sect of geekdom. I remember them talking about "normal" geek stuff sometimes, conferences and whatnot, but they mostly talked about cows, udders, code...elves..other normal stuff
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Hehe, now I understand the comments. Hi Cyndy, just a quick note to say I loved your post and couldn't agree more. The whole thing was a lesson to me, I can tell you. I didn't like the ad and I liked the anti-mommy-blogger backlash even more. I'll leave it at that for fear of starting myself of on a rant - it's too early for that :)
- WorldofHiglet
Really great piece, Cyndy. Though I imagine you're not going to get much response to it. ; )
- Carla Thompson
Don't care, Carla. Just tired of getting called out from glass houses.
- Cyndy
That has to be one of the best headlines ever!
- Mo Kargas
Just finished listening to the latest FFundercats. Great job as always, guys!! And it's always nice to listen to Mona's voice. I still think she has a career in narration. :)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
from Bookmarklet
Mona, I think you need a screencap of this.
- Cyndy
Better yet, make this the background image of Pete's next Seesmic. @Lindsay: :| <---embarrassed face... thank you... All three of them are AWESOME and Mark Wilson's editing skills = SERIOUS business!!
- Mona Nomura
Saved to make Pete's bedroom wallpaper out of.
- Cyndy
No need to be embarrassed, Mona!! I enjoyed the show and you do have an awesome voice. Your laugh is pretty contagious too. :) Enough homancing yet? ;)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I TOTALLY would swing that way for Cyndy. Her words = HOT.
- Mona Nomura
Is Lindsay about to get a room with Mona? *pulls up a chair and grabs popcorn*
- Chrimmus Tad
OMG so now it's a threesome (me + Cyndy + Lindsay)?! WOO HOO!
- Mona Nomura
Dear FFundercats, I never thought it would happen to me...
- Josh Haley
"...burnt out about the talk of politics, the economy, religion...glad it's getting kinda back to normal." Oh yes, lets get back to the hapless simple banality on FF please. The content has gotten far too interesting and educational. Back to bacon. :-P
- Ňicķ
Actually, I think there is plenty of room for bacon, religion, and politics. It would just be much easier if FF would please implement some auto filtering features.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Homances FTW. Jason? Wonkette down today? @Nick: what is educational about people arguing. On FRIENDFEED?
- Mona Nomura
Speaking of which Lindsay, is there not a "Nightly Meme" room? If not, PLEASE someone create it. Tad, perhaps?? I think he's the inventor of the nightly meme, as far as I can tell. It's really perfect for a room and it would take it out of the main feed.
- Ňicķ
Taking the nightly meme out of the main feed would pretty much defeat the entire purpose.
- Chrimmus Tad
Ever heard of a feature called "hide", lists, and disabling FOAF? -just wondering.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, debate is one of the bases of intellectual discovery. Simple name calling or game-saying of course is not good. But for an online forum, there are a surprisingly small amount of simple-mined trolls around here. I think most FF debates are reasonably civil.
- Ňicķ
How so Tad?? It's a hobby for a certain sect of FFers... if politics can have a room, certainly the nightly meme could.
- Ňicķ
And there is a User Photos room (or something like that) that ends up collecting them, but no one would know if someone didn't start them in their main feed. Seriously, that's what hide is for... if you don't want to see it, hide it. If other people have to hide the "serious/boring/nasty" political and religious argument posts then fair is fair till we get filters.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Nick - that is very very VERY subjective (pertaining to online mediums).
- Mona Nomura
A good number (I might even say the majority) of people who particpate on FriendFeed do it because it's fun and enjoyable. Your idea of fun may be different from others, but that's why we have hide and unsubscribe and turn-off-FoaF. It's a small price to pay for what you get.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Politics was partially moved to a separate room because many folks were upset by it. I realize that a few folks find our fun to be offensive, but until FF shrivels and dries up I won't quit having fun in the public feed.
- Chrimmus Tad
Well, I think we all know manual hiding of items posted directly to FF is nearly pointless because you're going though it all anyway, so it's an endless game. It's not like hiding all twitter or something. And politics and religious discussion DO have rooms.... even if it's still in the main feed sometimes. If the nightly meme thing had a room, it would probably be helpful anyway. No?
- Ňicķ
I certainly don't find it offensive Tad, geez.... i just think it's natural that it would be in a room.....
- Ňicķ
*sigh* What someone chooses to put into their own feed is their own business. If it's not what you're looking for, hide it, unsubscribe from them, block them, or all of the above. Person A is not on FF to provide content that is useful to you, they are here to aggregate the stuff they create or that they find interesting. End.Of.Story.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
It does have a room, Nick: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... but again, no one would KNOW to participate in a meme if it didn't start sporadically in someone's main feed... we don't all go hang out in that room.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I don't want to segregate the fun. And there isn't anything formal. I'm not the only person that posts meme suggestions and I don't suggest one every night.
- Chrimmus Tad
I'm going to sleep. Mark? The Optimus Prime poster is STILL making me laugh!! 'Nite people. :)
- Mona Nomura
I dunno Tina, isn't that the very point of rooms? To bring together people who are interested in particular hobbies? I'm not trying to stop anything here.... or kill the fun, just suggesting the nightly meme is a subject more oriented towards having a room....
- Ňicķ
Nick, rooms are where people share items. Myself, I'll post items to my main feed and then share to a particular room as not everyone who's in the room is subscribed to me and vice versa. I personally dislike having content put only in rooms and not in the main feed because I wind up missing a lot of it.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think the point is that people want to interact that way in their main feeds. When memes start there is a lot of commenting and participation... it's one of the small drivers on FriendFeed for a lot of people, to make that connection with others. If it's not in your main feed then new people may never know it exists. They might search for religion or politics room but very few would know to search for a meme room (or realize what something like that would be called).
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Well Tina, that is a bit of an FF flaw... sadly.
- Ňicķ
Yes Lindsay, I can see your point of course, and it's not like I'm not amused by the nightly meme on plenty of occasions, but when that time comes every few nights or so when it dominates the main feed, its hard to get around it (especially if you only pop on FF for a little while to check out the general activity, it drowns out a lot of stuff)....
- Ňicķ
Oh look, after I went to bed last night, Nick there started the other nightly meme... kvetching about how everyone else uses FriendFeed wrong.
- Cyndy
Not my first, or second, or third choice. Could she do it ... probably, but ... she seems to have a 'my way or the high way' type of track record and that's not a real asset in this position.
- AJ Kohn
Surprised at some of the responses. I would be ok with that pick. Watch yourself Robert; Obama was a Junior Senator and now he's president
- David Jacobs
Yes, get her out of the Senate. I live in New York.
- John Lam
No. Less Clintons the better for everybody.
- David Risley
John - same here, in fact I think you're in rochester like me!
- Susan Beebe
maybe Obama wants her out of the country and traveling a lot
- Erin @queenofspain
Bill would have to give up his Global Initiative, no? Would he do that? I guess he owes her one.
- Ernie
@David Jacobs I'm still waiting for proof that Obama is quailifited to be Pres.
- Robert Hafer
Robert Obama's transition team has already done more than 8 years of Bush. lol.
- Erin @queenofspain
A key finding in a Rand Corporation report ( http://tinyurl.com/6ox4gy ) is that emptying and re-filling thousands of high- and medium-level national security and foreign policy positions in the federal government ensures a low level of experience in the opening years of a presidency, while a heavy reliance on patronage effectively insulates political leaders at the top from professional advice at the bottom.
- SnakeDoc
What's the chance that Condi Rice will be asked to stay on? (Man, I wanted her to run for Pres.)
- Robert Hafer
I thought *that* was the whole thing: Obama removed the stigma from the "elitist" label.
- Victor Ganata
Now that he's won, we can say it. Obama is elite, if not elitist, and after 8 years with Doofy McCommonMan as the President, I'm glad for it.
- Jason Carreira
I thought people understood that owning a Mac doesn't make one elitist. If so, I must be elitist times 4 (I intend to get rid of two of the Macs, honest!). Uh...nm, I get that it was a joke, now.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
"The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote."
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
from Bookmarklet
One of the many reasons why I chose to leave the Catholic Church. This is using Catholic guilt to it's utmost extent. HEY CHURCH--GET OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT!
- Kelly W.
Good idea. The Catholic Church is DEFINITELY more popular than Barack Obama right now, and growing rapidly, so it only makes sense to use this strong social standing to make a point.
- Jason Carreira
like i wrote yesterday when someone else posted this story -- the problem doesn't like with the catholic church per se, but with the ideology that many religious right people in general possess. if anything ,the catholic church represents a substantially smaller population and sphere of influence in this country's politics than do those of the christian evangelical set particularly in the south of the united states.
- Cee Bee
OMG I just hovered over your name and you subd to me! Did Cyndy blackmail you or something?!
- Mona Nomura
And now, I have to bug you to add me on Facebook.
- Mona Nomura
Crap, these are the times I wish I get email notifications. I want to do one of those: "HOLY CRAP HE SUBd TO ME" posts. THis is SERIOUSLY monumental.
- Mona Nomura
Jason... whut? Subscribed to someone? He might crack the top 10,000 on FFholic. Must be Wonkette is slow today or something.
- Cyndy
isn't there already a way to set who you can get messages from?
- Victor Ganata
Haha... I figured out I could block FoaF for just Mona since she has so many fans... So there you are. But I won't decide on anything about Facebook until I go back on there in roughly April, if trends continue.
- Jason Carreira
I'm going to start sending you plants for your Lil Green Patch on Facebook to get you there more often.
- Cyndy
Then I will delete my Facebook account. Try me.
- Jason Carreira
Jason - I'll just keep spamming you AND Cyndy until you add me. HAHA!! And it's good to see you back on FF... you disappeared during the elections.
- Mona Nomura
I was rabidly reloading 538, politico, huffpo, realclearpolitics, and wonkette. Oh, and working.. um.. yeah, really.
- Jason Carreira
I don't think Facebook listens to FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, she feeds her Twitter into Facebook status. ;)
- Cyndy
Jesse-I don't think Facebook listens to ANYBODY.
- Steve Isaacs
Ya, that's why they're partnering up with salesforce.com and moving a step closer to attempting total world domination. Scary.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Facebook? World Domination? I only use it as an afterthought.
- Ian May
Google: Facebook + salesforce. I am now more for OpenID than ever.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
"From the man whose best-sellers include “Why Courage Matters” and “Character Is Destiny” comes this underwhelming reaction to the cowardly smearing of Sarah Palin by his own unnamed staffers: “These things happen.” Not: “Shame on the leakers. I denounce and renounce them.” Not: “I’m going to get to the bottom of this and make sure those"
- Russellreno
from Bookmarklet
What happened to: "AND YOU WILL KNOW THEIR NAMES!"?
- thepete
There's a lot of things from that campaign to be a lot more ashamed about than calling a clueless opportunist what she is.
- Jason Carreira
"As Republicans, we face a choice. Either we can spend the next several months -- or years -- trying to figure out what just happened, excusing our defeat away as a temporary blip or the result of a poor environment, and waiting for Barack Obama to trip up. Or we can refuse to take this defeat lying down, and start building the future of our party now. 2008 made one thing clear: if allowed to go unchecked, the Democrats' structural advantages, including their use of the Internet, their more than 2-to-1 advantage with young voters, their discovery of a better grassroots model -- will be as big a threat to the future of the GOP as the toxic political environment we have faced the last few years. The time is now to set in motion the changes needed to rebuild our party from the grassroots up, modernize the way we run campaigns, and attract different, energetic, and younger candidates at all levels."
- MikeAmundsen
from Bookmarklet
Since Dems are more tech minded - what's stopping the liberal masses from flooding this model and making it virtually unusable? Not to say that's a good idea - or one I condone - but I just feel that the tubes have more liberal minded people that could log in and control the conversation on a site like this.
- George Smith
Or, better yet, come up with an intellectually honest platform that neither panders to the basest fears nor attempts to fool the uneducated into voting against their economic best interest. Perhaps some William F. Buckley conservative intellectualism remains alive in this country and can be nurtured. Unfortunately for the GOP, this advice is sure to be ignored.
- Jason Carreira
i think the notion of re-inventing the machinery of the party is good. GOP looked pretty 'i love the 80s' during this last campaign. but, IMO, the real issue is not machinery, but reach. since Reagan, i've watched the GOP party base continue to shrink. and new machinery won't fix that.
- MikeAmundsen
90% of McCain's voters were white. That's the GOP's problem in a nutshell. They can't appeal to their base of religious, somewhat bigoted white men without continuing to alienate the country's fastest growing demographics as well as the pluralistic minded <30 crowd, who will only grow in electoral strength. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place and I don't see an easy way out for them.
- Eric P
Let's speculate as to the title of Bush's memoirs. It must portray his intelligence, the way in which he guided our country the last eight years, how he handled himself in times of disaster, how the economy fared, how we got into and out of two wars. With this in mind, my title of choice is "Huh?"
"Beyond My Level of Competence: How To Tinker With What Works Until You Break It!" Bonus chapter 13: "How to shift the blame to your opponents"
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I like The Decider, but since Jason beat me to that one, how about Smoke 'Em Out: How Bush Ended International Terrorism and Brought Peace and Prosperity to a Grateful World?
- Steve Lowe
Especially when Oliver Sacks has just done it!
- anna sauce
Haha... no riots over the election, but riots in Second Life. Welcome to Bizarro World.
- Jason Carreira
I'm sure that if some people in this country could figure out how to grief the real world with flying instances of the stars & bars, you'd see it out here too.
- Cyndy
SecondLife... all the tedium of the real world, plus the ability for dorks to annoy you. I can really see the appeal.
- Jason Carreira
she'll forever be a liar and crook in my eyes
- Cee Bee
I think someone is looking forward to getting back to Academia... Her chances for a political position on either side are not so good now.
- Jason Carreira
I certainly would never place her in a position of power again, but... Redemption?
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is scheduled to meet with Sen. Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.) on Thursday to discuss his future in the Senate Democratic Conference, according to a Democratic Senate source.
- Darryl
from Bookmarklet
And by that I hope he means put a foot in his ass as he gets shown the door.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Give him the boot. It is my hope that the man who should have never been chosen as a VP candidate is made as irrelevant in the eyes of the Senate and country as he has been to me for decades.
- Admiral Anika
He's going to get a very important job: Hall Monitor
- Jason Carreira
The smile plastered on my face faltered a bit this morning when I drove past a neighbor's house. They've put a sign in their yard, spray-painted in black: RIP USA. I know feelings are raw on the other side but...
Carla, the sentiment where I live is along those lines. It's going to be a frustrating few months hearing nothing but blah blah terrorist blah blah un-American blah blah liberal fascist pig blah blah. I'm already tired...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
My neighbor a few doors down hasn't looked me in the eye since we put up the Obama yard sign a few weeks ago. It's sad. We saw her at the polls yesterday and she pointedly ignored us again.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
You need to go knock on their door and use the old conservative line "Love it or leave it!"
- Jason Carreira
MJC: because I love the area and my family's here. It's not really any better when I've gone up north: people treat me like I'm stupid because of my accent.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I feel the same way. People here are crying and saying the U.S is dead.
- Trish R
Like Tina, I don't feel I have been able to fully enjoy this win. As soon as we heard the great news and decided to leave the "all party supporters" election party last night, I was already overhearing "I'm moving to Canada!" and a racist joke. I am so happy and very hopeful for a better day in this country, but I am hurting from the horrible things people are saying.
- Carmen
It's why I so desperately want to move. I know they're not alone in their sentiment unfortunately. And I did have to strongly tamp down the urge to go knock on their door.
- Carla Thompson
There are people like this in California too. These kinds of attitudes will go away eventually.
- Robert Scoble
Ugh, I'm sorry. But it's up to us to not respond to that in kind but instead work toward unity and get America on the right track.
- AJ Kohn
Sad to see poor losers. If McCain had won I certainly wouldn't have done anything like that. In fact my son asked me what I would do if McCain won. I told him "I'd do the same thing if Obama won. I'd get on with my life." Can't cry over spilled milk.
- Mlibrarianus
Things like this never seem to really go away though. They color and tinge everything that goes after and the experience always seems less satisfying.
- Todd Hoff
Tina, I also have an accent and people outside of the south don't treat me like I'm stupid If they think I'm stupid, they cover it up well. I want to move, because the attitudes and beliefs that were brought out in this election make me not want to be associated with the people here anymore. I even heard someone make what they thought was a joke this morning, saying "Now we really do have a bastard in the white house." That makes me sick.
- Trish R
That is crazy, especially given that they probably support Bush
- Michael VanDervort
Unfortunately there is a complete lack of civility. There is no one party affiliation to attribute it to. The problem is voiced in the comments above. "The other side". As long as that is what we espouse, then we will continue to be divided and distracted from the real issues of war, domestic economy and eroded civil rights..
- Greer Trice
Trish - oh that's awful. :( Luckily our neighborhood and area of town is "blue" and that helps, but there are still haters all around. Hubby and I have already discussed that if we keep hearing these awful, disgusting things from people that we should move. I can deal with the accent comments.
- Carmen
Once peaople realise that the things they have been told about Obama (like he's a terrorist, he's not American (for shame), he's a communist etc.) were, in fact, lies, the sore feelings will subside.
- Chris Nixon
Carmen, I agree with you, I'm rather have my accent poked fun at than continue to endure this garbage, which I think is only going to get worse. This campaign seemed to give a green light to this behavior. I'm not sure the election being over will bury it again.
- Trish R
@JA you likely won't be surprised to hear that this is in Texas. I live in the most Republican county in the state. But I hope to remedy that soon...
- Carla Thompson
@Carla - would that be just outside of Austin? My little brother was telling me that where he lives is considered to be one of, if not the most conservative areas in Texas. He lives in Round Rock...
- JA Castillo
Chris, unfortunately many people don't WANT to know those are lies. It doesn't matter what the RNC and McCain have told them, they *want* to believe those things are true. And when you want to believe something, logic and facts are not likely to sway.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Wow, the comments make everything seem hateful however no one even mentions the real crux of the problem. The real problem is our government has been hijacked before Obama and McCain even raced. Neither one of them will really change our current nosedive into communism because they are the puppets and are controlled by others. It is a shame every one is being hateful to each other when what we need is unity and love to make it through the times ahead. Try not to let their comments affect you cause they are
- Lisa
just scared of the tyranny they see gripping our nation. Heck, I'm scared because now I know after studying for over a year that our whole government is corrupt. Try to understand why they are saying what they say, it is fear that speaks.
- Lisa
@Tina: I'm ok with people underestimating me due to my Alabama accent. I'm still quite confident in my abilities and surprising people is always fun.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@JA I live in Round Rock actually and yes, it is very conservative. However, we are making real inroads here. Lots of Obama signs around. McCain carried the county but only by ten percent and we elected a Dem. to the state house for the first time in a long time.
- Jeff Jones
@JA nope Collin County, right outside of Dallas. It's pretty bad up here.
- Carla Thompson
The farther you get from any city in Texas (i.e. civilzation), the worse it's going to get.
- Cyndy
The reason I mention the accent isn't that it bothers me so much as the fact that it points out people everywhere in this country make assumptions whether it's right or wrong. In this event it's an assumption about me b/c of where I live, rather than an assumption about someone else b/c of their party/what they look like/their name.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I felt the same way in 2000 after Bush v Gore. Unfortunately, I was more right than wrong. We can hope this time will be different. We certainly have a different kind of man in the White House than George W. Bush.
- Jimmy Walker
They should listen to McCain: 'I urge all Americans who supported me to join me in not just congratulating him, but offering our next president our good will and earnest effort to find ways to come together...' http://www.cnn.com/2008...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Somber reminder that the election is just one more step in a very long journey. (well, giant leap, maybe). Many steps have led to this moment. Many more lie ahead. We'll get there.
- Michael Markman
I'm compelled to share some stats from Austin for SOME reason. 50% of registered voters voted early. 66% voted straight party Dem. Several races on our ballot didn't have a Republican challenger. =D
- Shellee
Time makes a difference. In a few years, the dire predictions will prove to be unfounded if Obama does as well as supporters expect. In time, much of this resentment will dissipate into acquiescence or support.
- Jimmy Walker
The 2 huge revolutions coming from this are: 1 - fundraising from the long tail. 2 - The incredible, well organized ground game that IT and volunteerism built for Obama.
- Jason Carreira
Oh, absolutely. And while I was a bit disappointed with the turnabout re: public financing from Obama, when he first said that, I'm sure he had no IDEA what people like me would do with their dribs and drabs of donations. How could you see that in the primaries and then turn your back on it?
- Cyndy
Not living in America, is Obama *that* certain now ?
- William Stewart
Yup.. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ puts the chances of an Obama victory at 96%. If McCain is really the maverick he claims to be, I think he should not go down without a last-ditch effort. Though it is not clear what exactly he ought to do at this late hour...
- Bindu Reddy
Nothing is certain. Polls are likely to be off and there's still a lot that can happen in the next week.
- Paul Buchheit
A week is a long time in politics. Precisely what, if anything, could change the way things are at the moment - I don't know.
- Roberto Bonini
If only the election was decided by media commentators, Obama would have a landslide. Unfortunately the unwashed masses have a vote - 1 man 1 vote to be precise.
- William Stewart
The right thing for him to do would be to go to the close Senate race states and try to pump those up to help the party. He can't win the presidency. He might also try to make Sarah Palin look as good as possible in preparation for 2012. But he'll undoubtedly just keep name calling instead and ruin his reputation with people like me who once respected him.
- Stephen Foskett
I'd start telling my campaigners that there are lots of historical examples when people told the pollsters one thing but did another once they got into the voting booth.
- Adewale Oshineye
If he wants what's best for his party he will not position Palin as the new face of the party, but rather someone like Romney or even try to find a younger, more intellectual conservative. You'll see a lot of McCain's top advisers and staff tearing Palin to shreds Nov. 5th.
- Jason Carreira
Fake a terrorist threat. Distract people from the economy and make them worry about terrorism/national security, which is something McCain seems more qualified to deal with than Obama, given his military background.
- Jess Lee
The connection between this and McCain (or the RNC) could never be proven, of course, but McCain's campaign would benefit if Palin was assassinated by an American-born, black muslim suicide bomber.
- Tudor Bosman
throw the ball into the end zone as the clock runs out and hope someone on your team catches it...and if someone does catch the ball look up at the scoreboard to see that you're still down by 7.
- peter
Is Blaine still at Yahoo? I thought he'd moved on.
- Cyndy
whaa? that's crazy. I only used it a few times myself, but it seemed like they had a good thing going there. Unique, worked, and was creating community, no?
- Laura Norvig
I'm hanging in to see Wayne Sutton's response.
- Cyndy