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I'm sorry friendfeed fans. FF is a feature not a service and will be integrated into all social networks. FF should have sold last year.
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maybe JG but I am not convinced, I can see twitter acquiring FF and launching a freemium paid for service. You know it has to come.
- Thomas Power
Translation: Oprah ain't coming here!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Huh?
- Charlie Anzman
Nonsense. When does a bunch of features become a service? What if FF has more features than Twitter (it does) - is it somehow less of a service than Twitter?
- Leo Laporte
Charlie: Jason wants some engagement. Can't you tell?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You mean Friendfeed will become necessary infrastructure for any social network? I fail to see how that's a bad thing.
- Victor Ganata
We already have Guy Kawasaki, we don't need Ashton, or Oprah.
- Matt Ruiz
There's not a lot of discussion about a friendfeed business model, generally, in the blogosphere, is there? I wonder why this is? Friendfeed continue to innovate and come up with great ideas and ways to receive, filter and digest information and it's clear that other sites copy their ideas. I am definitely not keen for FF to go mainstream - personally I like the fact that I can keep my circle of friends here to those (primarily tech/web) folks that I want to gather information from and interact with.
- Matt Hooper
Jason is right though. I wonder what FriendFeed is going to be in the future. It clearly hasn't grown enough and isn't differentiated enough to be taken seriously.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
When Google Wave was first announced, I thought "Hey, it's a lot like FriendFeed." Maybe Google Wave stole it's thunder, but FriendFeed feels like what e-mail would look like if it was designed today.
- Scott Loganbill
Come to mention it, does anyone remember Google Wave since the announcement?
- Scott Loganbill
Scott: I'll remember it when it's actually released.
- Matt Ruiz
Actually... everything is a feature. 'Communication' is the service.
- Johnny Worthington
My point is that I don't think there is a viable business model for FF as a standalone business. FF as a feature set has already gone mainstream: It's called FACEBOOK. And FF-like features will be integrated into most social networks. FF like features will be "copied" and tightly integrated into other services. So where does that leave FF? How will FF make money? How will FF grow a...
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- Jason Goldberg
Err... Facebook was mainstream before it got the 'feature set'. Facebook exists based on ads that everyone hates and the only reason everyone is there is because everyone else is there... just like it was with Myspace. You are looking at the pork roast before you even fattened the pig. Think of all the massive online experiments that are now floundering. Digg was hot. Everyone had a...
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- Johnny Worthington
Jason - I think I know from where your comment comes :) XING is/will implement more or less ALL FF features. I have been watching for a while SocialMedian/XING and now in particular with XING Partner Ecosystem is you guys plan to open..this is where you are going. But ovearll I think you are missing the point that FF is not about features but about "communication and communities" . And its growing..
- TechFuga
I'm a big FF fan. It's an awesome service. The question I have is there a market for this as a sustainable standalone service?
- Jason Goldberg
FriendFeed is one on the online services I'd pay for. Effective aggregation of diverse social media feeds has both business and personal value. Such a service is only valuable if it integrates the feeds I want to see, not just one. Conversely, I would not pay for Facebook; its signal/noise ratio is far too low to be a useful aggregator, and appears to be evolving into an advertising platform.
- David Lounsbury
What Jason means is that "social" is a feature which will be integrated into everything. Friends, sharing, liking, commenting, etc will eventually find their into pretty-much every internet service, from writing documents through to video hosting. Google Reader is the first (but not only) example of this - and it may (and I emphasise "may", not "will") mean that friendfeed becomes redundant.
- Ian Betteridge
Your child has the most value after it has been potty trained and finished second grade. Do you sell it then?
- Todd Hoff
cool ! i want to see FF everywhere. in all social networks, I jus love to have mi FF in Twitter, Bing, Facebook,iLike
- Đoи яамoη
from twhirl
This might hold water if Google Wave wasn't announced, or if you didn't listen to Bret Taylor at Crunchup. The future isn't FriendFeed-like features getting added to every walled garden social networking site: the future is federated social networking. It doesn't matter that you have the same features as someone else, in fact, that's to your benefit, because in the future, if you can't...
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- Mark Trapp
Another example of how flawed this line of thinking is: end of the 90s. Search was just a "feature" to larger portal sites. Guess who won? The one company that offered search as a service. The history of technology is littered with examples of winners who implemented one thing really well and losers who tried to do everything.
- Mark Trapp
I'm not convinced that Google Wave is going to be anything other than another walled garden, to be honest. But I don't think your argument really holds water, Mark. I remember not that long ago site owners who didn't want comments on content, and who argued that users' comments should be confined to linked-to forums - for exactly the same reasons you're outlining. Sharing, liking,...
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- Ian Betteridge
I think Mr. Goldberg could be on the money here. "Look, FF is an awesome service with a great early-adopter tech-savvy loyal userbase. But what does that get FF? Would someone acquire FF today for the userbase or the technology?" Nope, but maybe for the talented engineers. ;)
- Pete Delucchi
FF is a service, it might become just a feature under Facebook. Whichever service remains as an independent aggregator is where I'll move if that happens.
- Allred
from Android
Who is this guy and why are we concerned about his tales of the future?
- Fleagle
@Fleagle ... Jason Goldman started SocialMedian, a robust, and well-respected social media sharing service that's very similar in many respects to FF, and he sold it to, I think, Xing.
- .LAG liked that
Now this makes sense. Thanks.
- Fleagle
A feature? The Friendfeed website seems much more of a viable service than Twitter.
- Hunt
from iPhone
Robert - Have been busy with 'new stuff' and just revisiting this. The argument is that there isn't any (argument). Of all the SERVICES I've used over the years, Friendfeed has been BY FAR the most innovative, productive (and/or fun). I'm not goin' anywhere and the more I think about it, the more I find it sad that they felt the need to sell at this juncture (although I can understand it). Count me among the many that hopes it stays right here.
- Charlie Anzman
Oh hai there Socialmedian. What have you guys been up to lately?
Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie), V Mary Abraham, AJ Batac and 14 other people liked this
LOL Yep. This is me, going back to my Social Median account to see what I have aggregated there. Even looking at putting *back* all my feeds into Strands.
- Admiral Anika
Strands was next on my list :D
- Bwana ☠
The thing with Strands is that they've changed the focus to a fitness site. So, all the aggregating looks kind of dumb there. Several months ago (probably around Dec.), I deleted most of my feeds into my profile. Then just a couple of weeks ago, I stopped following everyone there. So SocialMedian, but it's such a PITA setting up the newgroups or whatever they're called.
- Admiral Anika
Strands as you once knew it is even more dead.
- Louis Gray
Pish, Louis. As an fitness tracker, Strands is AWESOME!
- Admiral Anika
Sad to hear
- Bwana ☠
hahahaha!
- Susan Beebe
Strands dead, too? sad
- Susan Beebe
And here we are, with open arms ...
- Jason Goldberg
retro calculators go digital - http://www.designboom.com/weblog...
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Müjdat Korkmaz, rowlikeagirl, Jonas Andreasson and 9 other people liked this
"hewlett packard recently released a series of three vintage calculators as applications for the apple iphone. the new applications feature replicas of the HP 12c, HP 12c platinum and HP 15c. each program mimics the layout of the original device and features all the original functionality. when the phone is turned in vertical mode the calculator condenses into a smaller version of the designs. touching the HP logo activates the phone to display a faux back to the calculator, proving a 3-d aspect to the virtual applications. the analog to digital cross over created by the calculators is very unique and could be the beginning of many similar digital applications."
- Live4Emma (L4S)
from Bookmarklet
my dad has the 12c....WAY COOL!
- Live4Emma (L4S)
That's very cool!
- Trish R
this is awesome. love it!
- Jason Goldberg
These truly are awesome, but they also illustrate some of the arbitrary nature of the app store review process: they are emulators. They run the ROMs from the original HP calculators. Apple has rejected other apps which work in this way, including a recent Commodore 64 emulator app.
- DGentry
If you feel like sharing, what's your Facebook username?? (an actual link pls so we can add away)
Andrey, eric, Jason and 100 other people liked this
i'm http://facebook.com/zee.me (determined to still get 'zee' somehow....so if anyone can help, please let me know)
- Zee.
facebook.com/chinaboy
- ybs
facebook.com/metageoff
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
facebook.com/snyce
- Scott
facebook.com/ugura
- Ugur Aydogdu (jnbn)
facebook.com/john.deisher
- John Deisher
Tylergillies
- Tyler Gillies
Mark, Wilheim. Erick and ?apak understand how links work - awesome :P
- Zee.
http://facebook.com/amy.beer - yes, that's really my last name
- Amy℠
joeybean.
- joey
With and without the dot is the same. Both resolve the same.
- Rolf Schewe
http://www.facebook.com/giovy, of course... ;)
- Giovy
http://facebook.com/bigstarlet. Same as most elsewhere.
- Helen Sventitsky
http://facebook.com/niron1 [still looking for the culprit that got "niron" reserved].
- Nir Ben Yona
http://www.facebook.com/curtisa... - It's pretty empty there, though.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Ken you're pretty modest for a stanford alum :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
htttp://www.facebook.com/photoshop
- fosil (Can PAÇACI)
http://facebook.com/jaredws... -- just include a note that you're from FriendFeed and you're golden. :)
- Jared Smith
I'm assuming everyone who posted their link here would like to connect on Facebook? (I'm not a facebook fan, but was just wondering if FriendFeeders want to befriend on Facebook too).
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I have a FriendFeed list on Facebook for connection purposes. http://www.facebook.com/johnebr...
- John E. Bredehoft
Because of the limitations to add friends here is also my email: bauwil@gmail.com (4 invite modus).
- Wilhelm Bauer
http://facebook.com/chrisof..., as it is just about everywhere
- chrisofspades
facebook.com/fsakbas
- F.Selçuk AKBAŞ
www.facebook.com/davidward
- David Ward
http://facebook.com/mikechelen forgot to do proper MikeChelen capitalization >_<
- Mike Chelen
some random guy has appleinc - http://www.facebook.com/applein...
- Mike Bracco
I was saddled with http://www.facebook.com/JDPierc... because everything else was taken..well not true. /LordAlfredHayesJr was in fact available, but I went with something slightly truer.
- Joe Pierce
http://www.facebook.com/kinlan - thank my parents for an unpopular surname :)
- Paul Kinlan
/monanomura
- Mona Nomura
http://facebook.com/tamihania - as usually :)
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Wow, huge thread. I am http://www.facebook.com/fruetel - Nice to meet you :)
- Thomas Frütel
http://www.facebook.com/martin... - now I think about it I should have tried for just 'Martin'.
- Martin Bryant
http://facebook.com/legaria w00t just registerd. Legaria not acommon last name! ;)
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
I got /KeithBennett.me
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
where is this feature?
- Ahmad Rashad
Ahmad, facebook.com/username
- Alejandro
http://facebook.com/carlton... And I accept ALL friend requests...and love to get them! lol
- Carlton Hackett
You may have to add some eeeeeee's
- Charlie Anzman
facebook.com/timTech
- tim kerrick
http://www.facebook.com/shira... - I wanted just shiraabel, but my wonderful loving husband thought he would surprise me - opps!
- shira
Interface is broken on my side, idiots broke facebook. They're as annoying as twitter managment.
- Richard A.
http://www.facebook.com/yant... bummed with the 5letter min as would have liked just Yant oh well
- Yant
is there some way to import friendfeed friends to facebook?
- Mike Chelen
christian.dewald http://www.facebook.com/christi...
- Christian (Simply X)
nice to meet you, zee, i'm http://www.facebook.com/victorg...
- diego morelli
http://www.facebook.com/timmarg... Please feel free to add me, but make sure to tell me that you're from FriendFeed!
- Timothy Griffin
http://www.facebook.com/cains I'm not proud to admit that I actually set my alarm to wake me up at 5am so I could get that name, even though I never actually use facebook.
- Steven Cains
ok, now I'm http://www.facebook.com/lizunlo... , so what? ctrl+w.
- Lizunlong
http://facebook.com/ercument that's my first name.
- Ercu
http://www.facebook.com/stijnme... just what I wanted :-)
- Stijn Mertens
It's weird cuz I have jeremy.campbell, but jeremycampbell also seems to work? Is the dot between names optional?
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Until someone with the same or similar name takes it all variations works as a redirect to your name.
- Eric Logan
@jeremy, dots are discarded. try jer.em.y.camp.bell, that should go to the same username without dots, jeremycampbell.
- Ercu
Thanks for the info @Eric and @Ercu, great to hear.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
I just stuck with /waltruppar, but my Pug Marley is: http//facebook.com/FreelanceG33k I really wish pages didn't need 1000+ fans b4 being able to snag a name. Maybe they will wave this in the future after things calm down and allow pages in place prior to 31-May to get a name....
- Walt Ruppar
Walt: The 1000 user limit will be lifted on June 28, then we get another free-for-all
- Ken Sheppardson
Couldn't get ruip (damm 5 letter min! :), so got http://www.facebook.com/ruipe
- Rui Pereira
http://www.facebook.com/jalansi... - decided to go with boring real name so real life friends can find me
- Alan Simpson
boring but works: facebook.com/richardgoodwin . If I'd have known how easy it was to grab them I would have tried for something more original
- Richard Goodwin
from twhirl
http://www.facebook.com/matthew... - This is in effect the same as filling out a change of address card at the post office, but people are acting like it's a bikini party with a pony and a pinata.
- Matthew DeVries
http://www.facebook.com/ZuDfunc... ZuDfunck What do I win?
- ZuDfunck
http://www.facebook.com/fernand... Open to connections.
- Fernando Bergamaschi
http://facebook.com/mikael.su - Co-founder of http://IslamCrunch.com/ [Blog based on Islam, Spirituality, Tech & other cool stuff] and co-founder of http://www.MQu.be/ [Web design & development firm]
- Mikael Pittam
http://www.facebook.com/thomken... - Thom Kennon
- Thom Kennon
http://facebook.com/chrisloft - hehe beat six other friends I know on fb called chrisloft
- Chris Loft
nivcalderon
- nivcalderon
I just used my full name, which I also use for my Twitter account: http://facebook.com/garinki...
- Garin Kilpatrick
I DON'T HAVE ONE!!!!!! "tamar" was unavailable but there's no page pointing to it! And um, we DID have someone check in at 12:01:01 AM! I am royally angry. btw, zee, gonna be really hard to get "zee" given the 5 char minimum - get to know someone working at FB and you may get lucky. (I've been trying to get tamar@gmail.com but the minimum character count is 6 and my Google contacts couldn't help..)
- Tamar Weinberg
mmm contacts :-) i hope you both get what you like
- Majento
facebook.com/nationhahn
- Nation Hahn
http://facebook.com/audacio... (I missed deadline by just ONE hour ... all the other Simon Youngs must have got in first)
- Simon Young
from twhirl
http://facebook.com/betashop -- jason goldberg
- Jason Goldberg
http://facebook.com/emiliom... - Just let me know you're from FF or I'll ignore it. Cheers.
- Emilio_M
http://facebook.com/micah (at present I'm not seeking to add contacts on FB, but I will add you to a List here on FF if you contact me by posting a "Public DM" to http://friendfeed.com/dm2 )
- Micah Wittman
اینو پخشش کنید بچه ها http://docs.google.com/View...
- شوخی
http://facebook.com/cobatra I tried to get coba but it need 5 character
- Cobatra ♘
http://www.facebook.com/john... - Let me know your from FF..
- John Serra
Vijay aka scanman - http://www.facebook.com/vijaysa...
- Vijay
wins1 haha, that was the best i could do.
- Wins Fern
facebook.com/colby
- Colby Olson
http://www.facebook.com/jamesnj... This comment<http://friendfeed.com/the-nex...>was posted in reply to Zee. <http://friendfeed.com/zee> on FriendFeed. To comment, reply above this message. Unsubscribe <https://friendfeed.com/account...> from FriendFeed email.
- James Slater
from email
It seems like I have http://facebook.com/zulemao... AND http://facebook.com/zulema... when I signed up? I clicked on the one with the "." between my first & last name when I registered so who knows. Anyways, my FB is private, family & real life friends :)
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
http://www.facebook.com/paulawi... and my dad got wirth.
- Paula W
You can place a period anyone in your username and it won't make a difference (just like how Gmail does it).
- Andrew Trinh
http://www.facebook.com/mitchel... I was off-line and missed out on snagging my name "mitchell.tsai". One of my other 15 dopplegangers got it...
- Mitchell Tsai
Which person is making biggest contributions to the 2010Web? I'm making a list, see it here:
Régis Gaidot, thinkQuick, funkyboy and 105 other people liked this
Here's the list: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub... I need your help in improving it! How did I make this list? I scoured my business cards and my contact list and we brainstormed and came up with this list of 325 people. It's just a starting point.
- Robert Scoble
The green lines, by the way, are people who are on friendfeed. That tells me whether they are really exploring the 2010web or not.
- Robert Scoble
Got any other people who should be on this list? Let me know here.
- Robert Scoble
Over the next few days this list will get dramatically longer and better.
- Robert Scoble
*waving* hey Robert. have you met Xiao Fengjin? Founder of Linkool Labs behind the Juice app. http://www.linkool.biz/ and her Twitter http://twitter.com/xiaofengjin -- try not to base opinion to heavily on FriendFeed use. You'll miss out on some cool folks overseas not using it. :)
- So Much More Hawaii
Some on this list are journalists/bloggers. Some are very techie/developers. Some are marketers. Some are VCs. Some are entrepreneurs. Some are CEOs. Some are researchers. Some are power users who are pushing the web in interesting ways. I am looking to build a diverse group of people who are pushing the 2010web forward.
- Robert Scoble
I don't know exactly who are the folks who are doing it - but the people who are making the great "detect your browser and if a mobile browser, show a well made, fully functional but mobile browser friendly version of the site" (see Gawker's site on an iphone for example) are among those making a big impact on the 2010 web
- Shannon Clark
I suspect the people who will are not on the list yet - they are in china, india, or perhaps south africa or denmark and not on the Anglo Saxon radar
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
So Much More Hawaii: I agree. I'm off to look through my Twitter and Facebook lists next. Joelle: that's why I'm asking here, so the list gets better.
- Robert Scoble
Good point by Shannon - fixing what's there might be a bigger impact, but it will never be recognised as such.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
But everyone on this list will eventually be on friendfeed. Why? Because I'm building a private group to discuss some stuff with them. That'll help us all eventually.
- Robert Scoble
*ack* that was me Robert. So Much More Hawaii aka Christine Lu. (i'm in Hawaii this week for Hawaii Tourism Authority) :D -- anyways, previous comment still stands. Go through all the folks you met in China last year. oh and the Poken folks. they're up to cool stuff beyond what they have on the market right now.
- Christine Lu
Robert, send you a request to add some people in mobile 2.0 area.
- Rudy De Waele
Rudy, names, we want names! Heheh. Thanks.
- Robert Scoble
not directly the 2010 web persay, but I think what companies such as Barco are doing at the very highest levels of display technology (their LED screens were used, some 2000 sq. meters of in fact, for the amazing Eurovision set in Moscow) will have a huge impact in years to come on what we all use for our displays. If display resolutions finally start to really rise (on average) that will impact the web considerably
- Shannon Clark
I'm mostly familiar with developers, since that's my profession, so I'd add: Damien Katz (developer on CouchDB), Terry Jones (founder of FluidInfo), James Tauber (creator of the Pinax Project), Brian Aker (developer on Drizzle), Mikio Hirabayashi (developer at Mixi.jp), John Resig (wrote jQuery), Malcolm Tredinnick (probably the most active Django developer). There are definitely more but that's off the top of my head.
- Eric Florenzano
Marco Derksen - (founder of marketingfacts.nl, www.upstream.nl), Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten (Next Web, Wakoopa),
- Erno Hannink
You should put there tarpipe folks...
- Marcos Marado
@robert add Lars Hinrichs, founder of XING http://www.xing.com, the only web 2.0 company to successfully IPO. http://www.reuters.com/finance... -- He's likely to be starting something new in 2010.
- Jason Goldberg
Wouldn't it make sense to start out with less people then increase until you find your getting interesting, relevant conversations Surely with too many people the conversation would quickly become overwhelming quickly, and maybe less focused
- Chris Lloyd
Chris: there's a method to my madness, but, yes, I have a hard constraint that I have to live within.
- Robert Scoble
Matt Jones & Matt Biddulph of Dopplr / Felix Petersen - Founder at Plazes.com, now Head of Product Strategy Social Location at Nokia / Christian Sejersen - Mobile Engineering, Mozilla / Raimo van der Klein - SPRXMobile & Layar (watch that name!) / Greg Skibiski - CEO Sense Networks / Ilja Laurs - CEO Getjar / Tommy Ahlers - Founder Zyb - CEO at Wayfinder Systems - now Head of LBS at Vodafone / -> most of them all at http://mobile20.eu conference in Barcelona in June :)
- Rudy De Waele
I don't envy your task, but if you get it right it could be very important for future web development. Will anything be published from the group? To aid future web developers?
- Chris Lloyd
Robert, maybe Bill Balderaz at Webbed Mkting. About to release an awesome monitoring tool that will push the folks in that space. And maybe Beth Kanter who does wonderful things in the non-profit marketing space.
- Gregg Morris
Chris: this list will form the core of Building43 and will discuss the 2010web in a private friendfeed group that will be opened to everyone else on June 11th.
- Robert Scoble
And some of the guys at the W3C Mobile Web initiative - http://www.w3.org/Mobile/ Maybe Daniel Appelquist? Also add Mike Rowehl (coded Admob, Mowser, Skyfire, etc...)
- Rudy De Waele
there seems to be an overwhelming US bias to the list at the moment - Europe? Asia?
- Russell Lack
If you're making it a closed discussion group elite, I urge you to try not to just have all the known incumbents - they're the people that made 2008. Get some new thinkers in there, perhaps people that see the needs and weaknesses, perhaps a few critics, and by all means people from outside the core US/UK/Australia/Canada/France/NL group. Of course it depends what you want to...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Russell: got any names? That's why I put it out here.
- Robert Scoble
Bwana McCall - Savvy, all-around blogger and technology reviewer...Bwana.org
- Ciro
That's going to be an interesting list. Has it changed much from your older lists? Some user names both on ff or twitter would be great. I'm going to check to see if I can suggest some. Maybe Michael Fruchter should be included too.
- Carlos Lorenzo
If we're including journalists, how about Caroline McCarthy?
- Chris Lloyd
Carlos: I'm adding names from Facebook right now. The list is getting longer by the minute.
- Robert Scoble
You'll be testing the limits of google's spreadsheet app by Wednesday
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I see other Jasons, but no Calacanis..
- Simon Wicks
Is there any particular reason a) why you're making this list b) why anyone should help and c) why anyone should care? The 2010Web seems more like a Robert Scoble PR campaign than a project with any depth. Where's the substance behind this? Someone please point me in the right direction.
- Andrew Eglinton
Andrew: a) I'm building a community of people who are fanatical about the Internet for http://www.building43.com which is why I'm doing it. b) why should you help? Well, because maybe I've helped you along the way. c) why should anyone care? You shouldn't. Move on.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting mobile 2.0 choice, Rudy. I'd say Andrew J Scott, Rummble Founder & CEO, should be on the list (@andrewjscott).
- Alex Housley
Robert. Is building43 a non-profit outfit?
- Andrew Eglinton
Andrew: no. It's a community sponsored by Rackspace.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, this is a great exercise. But why do you assume those making the biggest contributions are the ones who are fanatical about the Internet?
- Kevin Werbach
Kevin: because I have to start somewhere.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, plus, fanaticism without contribution seems pretty empty. And keep in mind what my goal is: it's to try to get more businesses and people into the 2010 web. To do that I'm going to showcase people who are changing the world with the Internet. That will get their attention. Then we need to show them how they can do it too.
- Robert Scoble
Is there any danger of building43 becoming an A-list ivory tower or is this going to be the tech savvy giving back to the cyber peasants? Just curious (which obliterates point C of my previous interjection)...
- Andrew Eglinton
Andrew: yes, there is that danger. But it will be short lived because after June 11th you'll be interacting with them.
- Robert Scoble
on a country (Fr) & corp filter level I can mention those 2 guys in France. For the corporations they really use and promote 2010 tools to the highest level of those orgs: @ChristianFaure, @dlafont (Denis Lafont-Trevisan) - both Cap Gemini but I do own 0 stock there. They just really get it and they are on FF. Another one that really gets it / use it = Régis Gaidot @rgaidot. also in Germany/austria @bodenseepeter toursprung.com (not on ff). Alexandra Carmichael: Curetogether.com.
- Harscoat
If you want to stay ahead of the curve, follow tipjoy: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
So in other words, you're channeling Barry Goldwater -- extremism in the defense of the Internet is no vice.
- Kevin Werbach
Kevin: heheh. I'm just looking for people who are using the Internet to improve lives, improve businesses, or just plain build something cool. Stuff like Epochrates that's helping doctors around the world. Or Zappos. Or Twitter, friendfeed, etc.
- Robert Scoble
I think you can add Nicolas Dengler co-founder of cocomment and co-founder of mixin.
- Frédéric Sidler
June 11th. I'll be there man. Just make sure you've installed a helipad on top of that building though :)
- Andrew Eglinton
The challenge is that most people don't want to change the world. They want something safe and comfortable. I'm with you -- the fanatics are the interesting ones, and life is too short to hang around boring people. Anyway, since I'm listed as an "Obama tech advisor", I'd suggest people from that world -- Beth Noveck, Susan Crawford, Vivek Kundra, Aneesh Chopra, and some others not yet announced. What they are doing is still in alpha, but is incredibly important.
- Kevin Werbach
Kevin: are you in DC? I'll be there first week of June and would love to get some interesting interviews about the broadband policy stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, DM me and we'll tawk. I'm in DC about once a week, helping out and making trouble.
- Kevin Werbach
You've said how you made the list, presented the list. But why are you making the list? (I hate lists btw -- when presented by magazines, newspapers, websites seem like blatant pandering - to both the people on the list and potential consumer)
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: a few reasons. For one, I want people who have done something interesting. Having someone like Tony Hsieh or Joe Hewitt or Kevin Werbach or Tim O'Reilly as a founding member of a community will get attention. Having 200 of them will get a lot more. Second, I want to focus my content efforts on these people for the first month. They have more to show about what the 2010web will...
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- Robert Scoble
Robert: so the bottom line is that you are pandering? ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: no, we are making sure we have a good list.
- Robert Scoble
There's a method to our madness. The first 100 people you invite to start a community will decide how that community goes for a long time. So we're being very picky about who we start with.
- Robert Scoble
towatch
- Arvind
In response to your 'method' Robert. I agree, the first wave of people will decide the story of a community - providing they have ownership of it. But building43 is a top-down model, what's to say that the people you invite will want to buy into the ethos of your community? Doesn't community begin with collective impetus, collective need?
- Andrew Eglinton
Andrew: Building43 is both going to be top down and bottom up. June 11th you'll see just what we are building (it's not just me working on this) and you'll understand. Hint: it's very friendfeed centric.
- Robert Scoble
Well in that case I'm sold. Final question from me, and incidently I appreciate all your responses above,will there be a provision in building43 for artists?
- Andrew Eglinton
Andrew: I have designers in mind, but how far off of graphic design and web design do you want to go?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: While not being sure exactly where you're going with this, it might make sense to include at least a few (call it a control group) of stodgy old CIOs and/or a person or two from the likes of MSFT, ORCL or others that you would say don't "get" the 2010web (full disclosure I work for MS). Without this I think you risk having some serious groupthink even with the luminaries on your list. Maybe this is planned for later in your efforts but I can't help but think it would be a benefit from the get go.
- David Ziembicki
I wish I was doing a big contribution, yet I am sitting here and waiting for it to come. So that I can use it :)
- Alpay Erturkmen
David: I have a bunch of Microsoft people on the list. CIOs? I'm gonna go for stodgy old companies later. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Better add David Hyatt (founding member of Safari and WebKit) and Maciej Stachowiak (another lead developer)
- Charles Ying
Peter Norvig
- Charles Ying
Robert, I see some startup people, but the list looks blogger/journalist heavy. What about those developers who may be the Bret Taylor of tomorrow, like Jesse Stay, Cesare Rocchi (Posty) and others like them.
- Rob Diana
Oh I do so use Friendfeed :-) And thanks @ericflo!
- Terry Jones
And, BTW, FluidDB is nearly nearly out (as a restricted alpha). End of June, we hope.
- Terry Jones
Robert Robert Robert, do you ever sleep?
- Myrna
This is all fine and dandy but we've got to have last mile bandwidth. Why isn't there a pure Conduit Communications company out there that doesn't have another agenda? The phone companies have their legacy phone business, the cable companies TV. Fiber to the home is what we need. Not geeks. All those people on that list times a million mean nothing compared to fiber to the home. Why is...
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- Web Nex
Wish this list had a way to breakout who is in Michigan. I would love to connect with these folks.
- John Minni
Robert: What about Chris Garrett? Maki (doshdosh)? I was gonna propose Tim Ferriss, then changed my mind, then saw he was already on there. ;)
- Shéa Bennett
FYI, Andy Baio is on FriendFeed (http://friendfeed.com/waxpanc...) as is Jeremy Zawodny (http://friendfeed.com/jzawodn). And I'm pretty sure Kevin Fox is on here too... ;-) (http://friendfeed.com/kfury)
- Tony Ruscoe
Mark Silva at Real Branding; an outstanding thought leader on the possibilities of Social Media.
- Mark Evans
You should add Allyson Kapin who is the founder of Women Who Tech
- Sandra
I've been working on how to automate the routing of data streams (such as Twitter/FF updates) so that the network as a whole will begin doing the work of selecting our content for us, eliminating most of the need for manual following/unfollowing. It seems like these ideas could congeal into a definite algorithm very soon. http://joshmaurice.livejournal.com
- Joshua Maurice
@rob thank you very very much! glad to be compared to Bret!
- funkyboy
theres a top 50 CEO's that twitter here http://images.businessweek.com/ss... on business week - this would be a good starting point - although I think most of them are on here already.
- Nigel Walsh
may I be part of Building43 please Robert?
- Thomas Power
@Thomas - you are moving to the US? or is this the virtual building..
- Nigel Walsh
Thanks for including me bud :)
- Chris Saad
I'd add @bitsweat aka Jeremy Kemper, who worked really hard to merge mirb and Rails into a new version of Rails. It took diplomacy to mold two rival coding teams into one, and as well genius level coding skills. It's hard to find someone on your list, Robert, who is both a diplomat and a great coder.
- barce
a bit corny, but in line with Time Magazine - isnt it all of us?
- Nigel Walsh
okay, one more not on the list: When Marc Andreesen was on the Charlie Rose show, Charlie asked him what the next big thing was. Marc didn't answer. Then Charlie asked him about who was working on the most interesting stuff. Marc's answer: Andrew Chen. http://andrewchenblog.com/ Andrew came up with the Freemium model spreadsheet... okay, I'll stop. :-)
- barce
More fields on Robert Scoble's spreadsheet would be helpful: Affiliation, Title, Facebook Page, Friendfeed Page, Twitter Page, Email Address. (URLs for the pages.)
- Sean McBride
Max Levchin ? is another good guy. Co-founder and former CTO of PayPal.
- Guy Vander Heyden
'Us'
- AJ Kohn
Someone who you don't even know exists yet.
- Dean Clark
@yoast for WordPress SEO
- Jeroen De Miranda
Robert - I know you have met Sol Lipman and David Beach, founders of 12seconds.tv.
- Justin Korn
Robert, btw, John Furrier is on Facebook as well as Friendfeed (you have him listed as FF only). I'm on both - I'll let you decide if I should be on the list or not, though.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I think you should add Sheryl Breuker, Robert. Her Incidental Interviews are becoming quite a staple and she's a central connector in the social media and communications space. She's on both FF and FB. I think her contribution of bringing the personal side of personalities into view is important.
- Ken Camp
Robert- I hate to disagree with you, but some of the folks on this list were movers & shakers in 2007 and 2008 but have since failed to produce anything of note, even simple ideas or concepts. I wouldn't name anyone specifically, but you could stand to be a bit more critical, imvho... Of course, I'm probably critical enough for both of us, and then some. ;)
- Jolie O'Dell
have you investigated @andraz and @gandalfar from Zemanta? I think that understanding text will be a killer application for tracking citations and topics between bloggers
- Michele Costabile
thanks for the include robert, btw i'm most definitely on friendfeed ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Dave Armano (now working with Peter Kim, et al)
- Susan Beebe
Mark Zuckerberg is on facebook ;) hehe - add X
- Susan Beebe
@eldsjal and @MartinLorentzon from Spotify, and if there is someone out there who have not tried spotify yet, ill strongly recommend you to do just that. This is the way it should be done not just with music but also with video! http://www.spotify.com
- Nerkez
It's pretty good, but Andrew Keen belongs on there. Also, so few women on Web 2.0-3.0, eh? Glad you include VWS with Rosedale and Koster. Wagner James Au has not done anything original in 5 years.
- Prokofy Neva
Barrett Lyon of BitGravity and who was one of a handful of people who mapped the Internet
- Loren Heiny
Maybe Steve Gillmor because at least he is always thinking about this stuff all the time and working it, even though he's always wrong.
- Prokofy Neva
Prokofy: Steve Gillmor not being on the list was a major oversight. I always treat my friends the worst. Hmm.
- Robert Scoble
What about Dan Cohen, the Digital Historian leading the Zotero project? He's on twitter @dancohen. They're going to be launching a social network for researchers from undergrad to professor that will open up the research process to everyone through their Firefox plugin.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
Paul Todd [ http://bit.ly/ek9P0 ]. Involved in development of useful apps ( like OneBridge http://bit.ly/XbOMs ) for Symbian phones...
- Arvind
Damn, need to work harder to make it on this list
- Alexander van Elsas
Let's create a list of 100 new startups that should be created right now!
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Location based aggregated travel info, down to the street level. I want to be able to instantly know historical facts, reviews, tips, etc. about the building I'm looking at right now.
- Jason Goldberg
A user-curated/voted guide to the best expert advice on anything.
- Jason Goldberg
dont these all exsit or are possible today, bringing together lots of sites... whats stopping us doing these now. is it just the user interface?
- Nigel Walsh
that said, I like your idea.... we should have a news network that starts with positive news!
- Nigel Walsh
@Nigel --> it's all doable with stuff that's out there. That's the best part of where the net is right now. It's all online, now we get to build cool services to make sense of it.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason, this is an interesting idea. Regarding the "expert advice" thing, I would love to get a good version of product recommendations, but in a "wizard" format. Look at HDTVs, I should be asked questions about size, price, picture quality and maybe one or two other things and it should give me the best fit.
- Rob Diana
Other ideas?
- Jason Goldberg
Jason: the first two could probably done pretty easily as Mahalo apps.
- Christian Anderson
Seems to me mashup apps are going to get huge. The companies that have the most open APIs with deep access to information will win the next round.
- Christian Anderson
Further speculation: of the 100, 49 will be localized- or verticalized-search related. Another 49 will be mashups that tie econmerce to existing search tools such that the commerce gets more targeted and powered by one's social graph.
- Christian Anderson
I think the people driven social space needs a metric. Something portable that identifies users contributions and influence. Something peer mediated.
- Richard Zeidel
Christian, I hope you are right about mashups being huge, that would help me a lot :) However, I am not sold on social ecommerce. Product reviews are good, but the "power of the network" or social graph may not extend well with commerce. The social graph tends to use the idea that several people in your network are experts in something. Commerce does not work quite in the same way.
- Rob Diana
Richard, I do not know if peers want to "mediate" as much as knowing how they rank. It is the selfish part of social that drives that. Once you start listing or ranking people, you get the whole a-list and a-list backlash problems. Just look at what is happening with Scoble's list today, http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Rob Diana
Point your smartphone or iPhone at a house or building, and get all the background information. (This is potentially scary -- one could get all the background information on the residents or inhabitants of the house or building. This is doable now -- the technology and data are there.)
- Sean McBride
One startup idea I wish we had was a unified communication platform. Basically, email, IM, twitter, friendfeed or whatever hook into one big "thing". This could probably start as a web app, and branch into mobile and and thick client apps as well.
- Rob Diana
Rob: I'm more hopeful on the ecommerce side. For example, I have several photo geeks in my social graph. I'm thinking about buying a DSLR. They know me and suggested a D90. It's not so hard to imagine someone suggesting where to buy one or even selling me theirs over ff or whatever.
- Christian Anderson
I agree with Rob. "a unified communication platform" could make life way easier for me. Streamy comes close but I am struggling with the interface. another startup that could be helpful is one that does location based social networking no matter where you travel...couchsurfing, socialect and localwoot do similar stuff. i wish the three could be combined :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
Rob: Here's the disconnect for me. The Social Space is about the individual and the individual's positioning is based on their own packaging, contributions etc. Influence is a key factor - Twitter started with followers, Facebook has friends, LinkedIn has connections. But qualitative data begs the SFW - so fukin what!?! We need a measure to understand people and their place - and i...
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- Richard Zeidel
Point your smartphone or iPhone at *anything* and get all the background information. Think about that. Products at stores. Places. People. Documents. Vehicles. Any physical entity.
- Sean McBride
Sean: See Ted Video Pattie Maes Sixth Sense...http://bit.ly/LdXlr
- Richard Zeidel
@christian -- *could* be done via something like mahalo but i think they are more pure play apps. the first is more of a killer iphone app. I have been traveling so much lately that i want something like this. A service that literally can tell you everything interesting you need to know about the exact place you are at right this minute. The info is already out there online, it just...
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- Jason Goldberg
Nigel: In keeping with your positive news network idea, I'd love to do a series in manner of The Soup... a possibly humorous weekly recap of web culture news (from trending topics and blog top stories to start-up coverage and web series highlights).
- Sarah Crisman
@shawn, i love it.
- Jason Goldberg
Book Recycling. I'd like to see a method developed that would remove the printing from old books and reprint new text..
- Bill Bittner
Jason -- this idea of yours has occurred to me many times, so naturally I think it's brilliant. :) One of the tricks would be to prioritize the mountains of information associated with any given place.
- Sean McBride
Richard -- got it: fantastic link to the work of Pattie Maes and Pranav Mistry at the MIT Media Lab.
- Sean McBride
Death Alarm: Follow my online activity via RSS feeds (blog, twitter, facebook etc..) to determine if I am dead!, and if so, activate my afterlife macros. Macros include: sending my letters (e-mails) to family, updating statuses("farewell everyone"), posting blog. Death will be triggered by configurable idle time counter (no status updates for 30 days for instance), followed by e-mail...
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- denizoktar
@sean I would love to know the history of my house - I have a picutre from 1926 when it was just a field, yet a year later it was built... who by, who lived here -
- Nigel Walsh
how about a feature request so that when you comment @nigel or otherwise it alerts you on Friend Feed!
- Nigel Walsh
you know I was thinking earlier - Monday, better Detox, would love to use twitter for global support and tweet what I eat - and everything I tweet, automatically get counted for me and emailed to me every day against a plan.. I rushed back to the PC and someone had done it - almost identical to my thoughts... either Im getting slow or someone has read my mind!
- Nigel Walsh
@Rob - Isn't this Digsby or something similar - the only thing that misses is Skype. Im also doing a lot of work with people like Cisco right now and they have some very cool UC stuff out or coming out - linking Presence and various other API's. Im doing this as part of an Enterprise Mashup - but this could easily be consumer based.
- Nigel Walsh
Twitting credit card. Choose which kind of activities with your credit card to be twittered in your account.For instance: Visa, please twit everything I eat.(Inspired by Nigel) Whenever I buy a food, it will be twittered. (I am assuming credit cards keep track of each item bought. Do they? Here they don't)
- denizoktar
One important start up - web 2.0 for education - there are people in the field but it is not "easy yet". Education is inherently conservative and slow to change - something stupidly simple that would allow/teach/train educators how to use and be successful in web 2.0 would be a great startup. Heck i'd even invest in that one.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Another important start up - portable health care - in that people can have an electronic version of their health care records, everything that they can carry with them. Personally it should be implanted, on a special card, and be very secure, up datable. The fun part would be dealing with people's MRI's, and other imagery/telemetry systems.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
A critical piece of the social web is status/rank. All the successful plays have some method of measuring one popularity/authority.
- Christian Anderson
A just for fun startup - a true and reliable way to rank internet success, while we have ffholic, twitterholic, compete, quantcast, and other systems, where is the one that ties all this together, is reliable, is accurate, and can not be gamed?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Jason: yep, a location-aware iPhone app from mahalo could do what you want.
- Christian Anderson
Dan: isn't that internal conversion tracking tools? Or were you wanting to measure other sites?
- Christian Anderson
this probably exsits (someone let me know if it does) but when I comment on blogs I want it to update FF automatically - eg Disquss...
- Nigel Walsh
Ok. try this one on for size. I'm gonna create a website where every feature, including the first thing we build, is decided by a weekly vote of our users.
- Jason Goldberg
I'd like to see a location based social network built around graveyards. You'd create a profile and reserve a physical plot of land and be buried there when you die. Your tombstone would display random status updates you posted to the web throughout your life. And you could look up your dead friends graves on google earth. I've thought about this!
- Jon Gosier
give me a chip no bigger than a credit card which recharges my blackberry in 10 minutes
- Jason Goldberg
an online incubator that turned an idea(s) into a working site in days not weeks or months..
- Nigel Walsh
Days? Let's throw something together, halfassed, let it go down all the time while we get it working over many years. Days would be great, but if you want something good, you can't throw it together in days.
- Dean Clark
Company that makes an iPhone app for SocialMedian
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
from BuddyFeed
I'd like to see a mashup that would work for open networks like twitter, digg, friendfeed etc. that would allow community walls. a block would trigger a whole community to block the same person till a person within the community unblocked. open networks are dying because people don't want to comment on threads with people that they know they don't like. it could be voluntary. we would call these "Unions" and you would have to agree to be a part of one and you could always leave.
- Noah David Simon
Some great ideas here. Really like the unified communications idea.
- Gavin
How about a startup that encourages hobbies for school aged children
- Anthony Farrior
or a startup/networks for artists and animation. Perhaps something that has online tools and copyright ownership. For an extra fee provide help with networking and distribution.
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up like peek that provide gps and text communication between parents and kids
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up for upcoming clothing designers(not tee shirt stuff) where,again, for an extra fee, networking and real store distribution is provided.
- Anthony Farrior
last one, someone PLEASE make me a mobile video phone...As in "Hi yes, i can hear you and see you."
- Anthony Farrior
A free 'app' that helps re-educate those displaced by the Internet / automation / tech revolution.
- Charlie Anzman
Jason, this would be a great idea for a room here. You could create an identical one on socialmedian and import the RSS feed from it over here. If I have one criticism about friendfeed, it’s that so much of what is shared here, winds up in the rear view mirror, and is quickly forgotten.
- Michael Fidler
I can see why you would like a location based service like the one you described. There’s something like it on the iPhone, but I tried to find the name of it on Google with no luck. Additionally a lot of information just became public which would help with such an app. I would like something along the lines of what Rob mentioned, "A unified communication platform". I have a few more ideas but I need to find some info. first.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, there’s a site like the one you mentioned about user decided features also. Loic used it to decide what features to add to Twhirl. It’s called Uservoice http://bit.ly/ykT5
- Michael Fidler
We've already started a series of hyperlocal "best of Twitter" city sites like http://BreakingLANews.com. It's a grass roots initiative that provides these city templates free to community hubs and groups in each city, down to towns like Chico, CA http://ChicoBreakingNews.com. It's a unique way to propagate a new hyperlocal marketing model that, unlike sites like Topix, directly involves members of the community.
- Pat Kitano
Expanding on the UC idea, I was thinking someone could write a connector for twitter that in essence links twitter to all other chat clients, ie if you tweet msn:ndwalsh then you chat with me.. Same for skype:nigelwals, icq: etc etc... The ultimate comms platform
- Nigel Walsh
click sharing company
- Thomas Power
An easy way to discover new websites, not content, but great websites. Check out http://www.lynki.com
- Aloke Fernandes
@michaelfidler: yes, we use uservoice at XING. It's a great tool! What I'm talking about is using a tool like uservoice in a whole new way, to decide everything from the first line of code onwards.
- Jason Goldberg
Hmm I work on a location based iPhone app and unfortunately the GPS is too often not accurate enough to pinpoint the building you're in but can usually narrow you down to a 100 meter area. Also we need a magnetometer on the iPhone to do any accurate pointing (but it's coming in june they say...)
- Raj Advani
Raj, the other option would be to provide users a 3D map of nearby buildings so that they could use their human intelligence to find their correct location. But that might be hard to implement in an iPhone app. ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Nigel Walsh, Backtype will import all your comments on blogs to FF. FF is even smart about not duplicating your Disqus items here.
- Bruce Lewis
Rob Diana: your TV-Example is exactly what http://hunch.com is all about.
- Richard Metzler
Haha Bruce I was going to say wait a minute...
- Raj Advani
I like Thomas Hawk's idea of starting a company to comb through old game shows and then selling the DVDs at outrageous markups to the original contestants or their family. http://thomashawk.com/2005...
- Davis Freeberg
"Location based aggregated travel info" => Nokia Maps & Lonely Planet: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Amberg
One of my weird ideas: Create a User Profile Management Site that allows users to create / update a common "User profile" (could have multiple "personality" profiles - work, personal, family, etc). The profile site updates would push out to a gazillion other sites and update user profile settings with each update. API adoption by a number of other apps is a must, obviously. The idea...
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- Susan Beebe
Distributed Indexing (Search Engine, Classifieds, Auctions, Real Estate) Like MLS for web directories / search engines.
- Matt Robson
@Susan I've been thinking of something like that for a while.
- Gavin
@Susan, @Gavin something like chi.mp maybe?
- Dragos Ilinca
Do we really need another 100 startups? I'd rather see one or two excellent startups come through and form their place on the web then seeing 100 coming through and all burning. Some of the ideas listed are pretty interesting and it would be cool if some of them were implemented although I'd like to see a few of the ideas merged together to see a more feature rich and useful service for users.
- Nicholas James
I'd really appreciate some feed back on the idea I stated above. I think it addresses a very serious issue in making "open" networks acceptable to the mainstream. I'd really like to hear from some tech people if it is feasible: making open networks acceptable for more people http://ff.im/3i7y9
- Noah David Simon
Coin-based economy for kids to help them skirt the issue entirely of having to ask parents for their credit card to play online games. Coins are kid money (and their parents nuisance money). Let's get coin value translated to online money and watch the revenue pour in.
- scott epstein
I want an app that will accurately predict the closing price of the Dow for any given day in the future. I know it’s not realistic, just call me a dreamer.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, I was thinking about your idea today, and that would be an interesting experiment. You could call it Tabula rasa. It’s definitely worth trying.
- Michael Fidler
I had this startup-idea: http://prezi.com/20331/view/ but I droped it. Now I have another one: 1. Start a communities for science & business topics, 2. provide Conference-Life-Streams with Twitter-Comments as usp like this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel..., 3. Provide further information like news, topic-monitoring (twitter), publications-research, 4. Track the use...
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- www.louis-e.de
oh, it's a bit similar to social median, I see ;-) Didn't know that before, sorry. But I can't find info-portals with meme-tracking-technique there. And no conference-streaming. So will built your competitor, haha...
- www.louis-e.de
Just in case people really liked the "unified communications platform" idea, I believe it is now called Wave, from Google (http://wave.google.com/).
- Rob Diana
Nother idea for startup: when riding public transport, service sends notification when friends are on the same train/bus etc.
- André Gallinat
You were right on the money, Rob. Nice Job!
- Michael Fidler
A Google Wave app that integrates with Google Health to provide real-time healthcare between Payers and Providers
- Jesse Stay
To the guy i just interviewed for a job at xing who admitted 20 minutes into the interview that he was not a member. sorry but total fail.
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Nice.
- Adam Posey
That's some pretty impressive interview prep there. I realize that you can't spend 20 hours preparing for every application you send out, but once it reaches the interview stage you really ought to do a deep dive on the company, the people, and the team. Use the product if it's feasible, hammer Linkedin for company info, check internal and external job boards to get a feeling for their...
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- Daniel J. Pritchett
If on the other hand J was suggesting that anyone who isn't already a longtime Xinger shouldn't bother applying, that's nuts.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
That's amusing. :)
- Louis Gray
Wow, isn't it common sense to at least try it out? Which means creating an account. I hope he learned something.
- Aaron Hood
The interview was for Director, International Product Management. Super-qualified candidate. 20 minutes into the interview i asked the candidate to walk me through what he thought our product challenges are with regards to growing xing internationally. He says, "well, to be honest I haven't created an account yet." I say, "Well why don't you go do that and shoot me a message via XING once you are ready to have a serious chat about the position."
- Jason Goldberg
Wow, I guess the candidate didn't think he'd need to do due diligence to get in. Hubris or oversight? Maybe it's an "I used to work for popular company X, people love me" sort of mindset?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
but I also wonder how xing invites someone to an interview without having checked his account before?
- esther ♥ ♫
Good point @esther. HR emailed me his cv and i was impressed enough to schedule a call.
- Jason Goldberg
ehehehe :D "do you have an xing account? no you can check my profil over linkedin" epic fail lol
- irfan ÖZTÜRK
How rude. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
you might consider collecting applications solely from xing, if you are to dismiss non-xingers
- MobilAdam
@mobiladam the point is to always be prepared. How can you interview for a job at a company and not first check out their website? I mean, c'mon. The dude submitted an application on our corporate job board.
- Jason Goldberg
Wow, applying for a project you are not interested in: how miserable.
- Burcu Dogan
wow - perhaps he was just mystery shopping!!. Did he have LinkedIN or other or any social presence? That said - 10/10 for honesty. Maybe a good opportunity to start with a greenfield candidate - no pre-concieved ideas
- Nigel Walsh
Holy crap. Just watched season finale of grey's anatomy while on the treadmill and it kicked my ass. Crying on treadmill not recommended!
What a wosie! Kidding, I haven't seen it yet. Hopefully you were alone:)
- Michael Fidler
@michael haha
- Jason Goldberg
At least your working out. Do you get Monday off?
- Michael Fidler
No! No memorial day here in Germany! We had last Thursday off though for some church holiday.
- Jason Goldberg
Didn't think so. I m stuck at home, because I didn't plan ahead. Oh well
- Michael Fidler
Checking out Breaking Bad.
Take the next week off work and watch all of season 1 and 2 from iTunes. It's a good idea.
- Louis Gray
itunes tv downloads save my life living overseas
- Jason Goldberg
Ship It! Now Is The Best Time Ever To Start An Internet Company - http://blog.socialmedian.com/2009...
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1. It's cheaper than ever to get started and prove something. You don't need VC money, you just need a (good) idea and the ability to start shipping it and starting the feedback cycles with users. Think small. Think cheap. Think fast. 2. Financial crisis + Economic crisis = Cash Constraints = Best Thing for Young Companies. Easy access to capital is a bad thing for startups. Being cash constrainted forces an important discipline and focus. 3. Financial crisis + Economic crisis = Expectations Have Never Been Lower. No pressure to prove you will be a $1B company in 3 years. Just move the needle a little and it's a win. 4. Phase I of the Internet was about getting everything online. Phase II is all about making sense of it. There are opportunities available in virtually every category you can imagine to help users make sense of what is already online. You can build very valuable and interesting businesses just around helping people make sense of what's already out there. In other words,...
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- Jason Goldberg
I wish friendfeed had its own version of "@" -- instead if I want to send you to Doc Searls I have to paste his URL in: http://friendfeed.com/dsearls -- he has a house in Santa Barbara and is doing some great coverage of the fires there.
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I also wish that friendfeed would take the "@" character and point it at the same person's friendfeed account, if one exists. That's a tough problem to do, though.
- Robert Scoble
Since FF is suppose to be more conversational, one would think an @user or similar would be a given.
- Brian
They could make it so that clicking on an @name would get you a popup menu with a variety of choices. It could know that I am "davew" on Friendfeed and "davewiner" on Twitter and "dave" on identi.ca and "scriptingnews" on Flickr.
- Dave Winer
Problem with doing that is people will mistakenly @ the display name rather than the username (what's in the URL). Honestly, I couldn't tell you the actual username for a lot of people I interact with on FF.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Brian: one reason I think friendfeed is resisting doing that is because they don't want to piss off Twitter (Twitter gives them a real time firehose feed and if it gets cut off friendfeed will dramatically change). Another reason? They are very heavy on ex-Google superstars and they know that by putting URLs (and forcing the same) they help the Google page rank of the whole system. Already I'm seeing some of my friendfeed items show up higher on Google than similar Tweets.
- Robert Scoble
I know if you click,drag and drop from a person's name (anywhere) to the comment box you get their FF url dropped. Not sure if that helps or not in this situation?
- Brian Sullivan
However it can be done it would be nice to have the ability to 'reply' to a user. Then those 'replies' could be on a separate page and we wouldn't need these not-so-perfect vanity searches maybe? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Brian: that's cool, I didn't know you could do that.
- Robert Scoble
Brian, I didn't know that. Very cool! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert: interesting, good points. Didn't think about that. Maybe FF will come up with an easy way to autocomplete our friend/subscriber list in a "To: user" box, and shorten the link.
- Brian
the URL referencing a user looks strange, I'd think they could hyperlink the user's name so it looks better
- Mark Bockenstedt
Brian http://friendfeed.com/briansu...: nice find! That is a good solution for now.
- Brian
Hmm and you are able to search by URL too, very interesting. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Mark: yes, that is what I would like to see as well.
- Brian
As there is no 140 character limit to posts here a drag'n'drop url solution that is only slightly worse that the hyperlink solution, could be the ff.im/username format instead.
- René Clausen Nielsen
that seems to be a firefox thing, it's not working in IE8 for me.
- Ben Reierson
If FF could tidy up the user URLs in some way to make it a little more presentable then that's a pretty good solution.
- Kol Tregaskes
René, yes definitely.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ben - I am using Chrome.
- Brian Sullivan
It works in Chrome.
- Kol Tregaskes
Working a bit in FF3.1
- Roberto Bonini
Robert, surely the best way of doing this is just to use the FF share function from the post in question? FF will then put the links in for you. I do agree with Dave though about some form of display on the username.
- Keith Bennett
from Nambu
Another thing -- we really do need one place -- each of us -- where we want to be seen and contacted at. I have a single address in the physical world. I have a bunch of email addresses, but one "main" one. Twitter is becoming that, unfortunately -- because who wants a company to own us. I don't. And I think eventually that has to blow apart. I dread the day. It would be great to have a...
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- Dave Winer
I agree, I think it's necessary to allow people to easily refer to their or other user accounts
- Jan Ole Peek
I agree something like that is needed... I always cringe when @ is overused though...seems so Twitterish
- Bwana ☠
I 27th that movement.
- Malcolm Bastien
make it so
- andy brudtkuhl
That would be really helpful, I have been wondering how to track and continue friendfeed conversations off-site and that would make life a little easier.
- Abhimanyu Chirimar
I 28th it.
- Varun Mahajan
I like René's idea that it should use the ff.im but the display text should be the user's name to make it look tidy. So you drag the user's username into the comment, it links to your profile page and displays as your name (e.g. "Kol Tregaskes" instead of "koltregaskes"). #betakoltag-sg-postscomments
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually I'd just might prefer ff.im/shevy over a hyperlinked René Clausen Nielsen. A hyperlinked René Clausen Nielsen should preferably point to my home (ie. my personal blog). THAT is me. ff.im/shevy is my ff home. Just as @shevy is my Twitter home. I like the easily distinguishable pointers.
- René Clausen Nielsen
I'd say it should definitely link to your FF user page.
- Kol Tregaskes
Dave: for most people Facebook is that place. I have been spending more time over there and it has more things that will keep pulling you back in. For many people it is their rolodex now. It's amazing the quality of people over there and what they put into their profiles.
- Robert Scoble
why not take back the "!" that Pownce has now given up?
- clarke thomas
Robert - Didn't one of the more known tech names, may have been Loic, or someone post a friendfeed thread last month telling people to stop using @ and # on Twitter, because it wasn't needed any more for some reason?
- Matthew DeVries
Whatever the ff version of @ will be; yes it should definitely point to the ff user page. No doubt. I'm just saying that in the great big web pond I'd like a hyperlinked my name to point to my web home as often as possible. And I like it when every service has it's own self-referencing standard.
- René Clausen Nielsen
Matthew: I said that about the # sign, but there are some use cases for that, even if technically we don't need it anymore to group things together. The @ sign, though? Nope, I didn't see someone say that.
- Robert Scoble
Matthew, yep Robert mentioned the # symbol only.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ok, well, this (for me anyway) came after that thread where I saw it, the # is nice for me, because I have a facebook app that hooks off the # fb hashtag and puts that post on facebook for me. I like that a lot, but I'm pretty sure that didn't exist at the time that thread happened.
- Matthew DeVries
this is my fundamental problem with FF - the lack of @ means within one conversation tracking who is responding to me requires me to scan the whole lot - that frankly sucks.
- Nick Halstead
Nick, yep. We rely on everyone using our names or usernames so we can track 'replies' with our vanity searches but it's wholly unreliable of course.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nick: agreed. We are all self interested and need much better alerting when someone talks about us. We already have that in "Direct messages." I hope they rethink this for something like "Discussions about me."
- Robert Scoble
Kol: and it sucks that I can't join vanity searches for my name on friendfeed with those that I do outside of friendfeed too. That's pretty lame.
- Robert Scoble
If FF added anchors to comments and perhaps a DM/CC for comments that might be interesting, though perhaps complicated and untidy?
- Kol Tregaskes
I see this as a matter of infancy, not of policy, I don't think it something Paul et al are keeping from us by design, it's just something they haven't gotten to yet.
- Matthew DeVries
Robert, also, vanity searches only really work well if you have a unique-ish name (thank you Mum! ;-)).
- Kol Tregaskes
Matthew: I agree. Can't wait to see how they add new features. Kol: true, but I can see a world where you could filter based on your friends. "Find items written by Joe Smith, but only display those about the Joe Smith who is friends with Louis Gray and Robert Scoble."
- Robert Scoble
Man that would be sweet.
- Drew Lucas
Robert, yep.
- Kol Tregaskes
Why not add the person you're mentioning in the "To" field? Pings the person just like an @ mention and it adds a link to the person you're talking about so we can all check out the person, too.
- Mark Trapp
Mark - that's fine for posts, but they're talkng about in threads.
- Matthew DeVries
Dear Friendfeed, please copy the @replize feature as implemented by SocialMedian last year: http://mashable.com/2008... XOXO, Daniel
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Socialtext/'s Signals app has a type-ahead find in its @reply feature. They use an AIR client though.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
I think FriendFeed should implement something far more intelligent than simple @-username. It could scan for the mention of a name of a person you are subscribed to anywhere in a message, then make a hyperlink of it. I think I'd rather type someone's name in full than be forever stuk with @username. Also, I think name resolution within comments should be local to the conversation. In...
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- Meryn Stol
Meryn: good idea but what about if someone mentions Martin Bryant, the infamous 1996 Australian mass murderer? It'd link to my profile!
- Martin Bryant
Martin, good point. I had not thought about that. Indeed there are situations when people want to talk other people with the same name as a person they are subscribed too. Maybe very hard to make a good UI for this. Local name resolution within comment threads is more realistic: You just make a hard rule that when someone mentions a first name, he is assumed to be referencing a previous participant in the conversation.
- Meryn Stol
I really like Kol's idea: "it should use the ff.im but the display text should be the user's name to make it look tidy. So you drag the user's username into the comment, it links to your profile page and displays as your name (e.g. "Kol Tregaskes" instead of "koltregaskes")." so http://friendfeed.com/meryn would be replaced by "Meryn Stol", linking to my profile. This combined with a fast way to look up these urls ("find as you type") would greatly improve over the current situation.
- Meryn Stol
OTOH, @meryn could be replaced with "Meryn Stol" as well. I just don't like seeing these @'s displayed.
- Meryn Stol
Nick makes a good point that it's irritating that you don't know when anyone mentions your name inside conversations you participated in. I wish I'd be notified if anyone use my first name inside a thread that I have commented on earlier.
- Meryn Stol
this is a time for the tricky higher ascii characters. ƒ (mac, option-f) is one possible way... ƒ ƒ ƒ are other ways to write the character, according to this page of glyphs http://www.ebyte.it/library... (1st under Symbols and Greek letters). So I guess the proper use for it would be ƒsusankitchens or ƒscobleizer
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan - those things are IMPOSSIBLE to type with a notebook, cause you need a number pad to pull them off. Was most infuriating when WoW people use them.
- Matthew DeVries
Meryn, it was really taking from René's point but yes sounds good. Once you drag and drop the username into the comment, it changes to a hyperlink displaying the user's name. Not sure how technically possible that is though?
- Kol Tregaskes
Meryn, yep I don't like @s either, name of the user (not the username) please. :-) I know user's by their names not their usernames.
- Kol Tregaskes
Isn't this just the classic namespace problem? Kol et.al. have it right - FF should simply be it's own namespace, and figure a simple way to refer to users. Then display the user's display name with an href to their FF page. No need to point to whatever your *real* homepage is, cause why wouldn't FF want to continue capturing stuff? 8-) But better linking to FF users would be key, as would threaded comments. (Heck, I'd rather have threaded comments and let some client-side apps do the live streaming...)
- Shane Curcuru
I would be very happy if there was some common, linked way of identifying my FriendFeed identity in a conversation. Ideally, it would happen automatically somehow, but this is certainly problematic. One way might be to pick a special character (easily typed) and have FF drop down a list of commenters in the thread. Then it would be easy to identify even in the case of multiple Robs...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
but the click and drag thing is cool. I think it should come up with my hyperlinked display name (not my URL) I find that I can drag another person's name from another conversation into the coments from another post as well. If that just caused me to be notified of a mention it would be cool (BUT training ALL of the FF users to do this might be a challenge)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Since @ is more appropriate for location than person, I'm glad they don't use it.
- Cristo
Agreed. @ = "at". That's always driven me crazy about Twitter. Makes some sense with email if you think of a domain as a physical location, but you're not talking "at" someone - you're talking "to" them or "about" them. I always thought ">Mike" would work better as a way of expressing that a message was directed at me. Maybe ":Mike" or "~Mike" if someone was just referring to me...
- Mike Hartman
But don't you like the slang "yo, at me later - I'll be online" lol!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I had to read that a couple times before my brain could parse it into a thought.
- Mike Hartman
how about using another character rather then @ could that work?
- (jeff)isageek
me too - that would be really useful
- Sharon Hurley Hall
I'm pretty sure the @ functionality needs to just to be standardized across the web at this point
- Zaki Manian
I'm pretty sure the @ functionality needs to just to be standardized across the web at this point
- Zaki Manian
friendfeed should just copy socialmedian's @reply feature. go for it. take it. seriously. you need it. we'd all love it.
- Jason Goldberg
In-N-Out Burger - http://likaholix.com/jeffdou...
Steve C, DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE, Eric Logan and 19 other people liked this
Double double ftw!
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Overrated.
- Mona Nomura
Never had
- Justin Yost
Yesss.... The double double, it is mine.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Animal style fries, plz
- Andrew C
Animal style fries? *googles*
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Animal style fries are delicious and super bad for you. The mound of sauteed onions is just nice, but the heaps o' thousand island dressing and cheese seem... not so healthy.
- Andrew C
Yesssssss....
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
I had a cheeseburger (animal style) and fries last night :)
- Benjamin Golub
I get the double double, grilled onions, fries animal style and a neopolitan shake. I love in-n-out!!!
- Morgan Haley
double double, with cheese, protein style, animal fries, Ftw!!! :D
- Helen Sventitsky
If you're gonna do something, you might as well go for it.
- Morgan Haley
i love the shakes.
- edythe
Neapolitan shake???? Oh, I gotta get that next time I'm in California.
- Andrew C
3x3 animal style extra toast, fries animal style well done, chocolate shake.
- Dave Roth
Mona!!! That hurts to even read!
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Depressing that there are no in and out burgers in san francisco
- Bindu Reddy
The best burger i've ever eaten so far..so pity not to have it everywhere.
- Tugce Cengiz
5 Guys is better on east coast
- Jason Goldberg
@Bindu, there's one off the Embarcadero -- on Jefferson, near Jones.
- Kevin Hessel
5 Guys is better? i've only had it once
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Mmmm... double double protein style
- Michael Hocter
Always wanted to try one... haven't yet.
- Nation Hahn
3x3, animal style, protein style, is the way to go
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Amazon book review has all the keyboard shortcuts. http://www.amazon.com/dp... Animal style.
- Eric Logan
That's EXACTLY what I'm in the mood for! But, alas, we don't have them here.
- Dawn
I haven't visited Twitter since the new Friendfeed UI came out.
Kevin Mohr, FunTimesGuide, James Michael Mike DuPont and 163 other people liked this
i have.... if you look at my profile...u see lots of fail whales :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Most of this time you couldn't even if you wanted to. This... is... FAIL WHALE!
- Joe Kavanagh
I know what you're saying Leo! I have Tweedeck running in the background just just I need to hear that little alert noise... ;-P
- Walt Ruppar
like someone said.. that fail whale page should be monetised!
- Rob Sellen :o)
how about a screencast of your Beta FF , stream ... any tricks or tips to share ?
- johnpiercy
Been more on twitter since the new friendfeed UI came out.
- Dan van Moll
daniel.. why???
- Rob Sellen :o)
anything special to set up?
- Mark Essel
where mark.. here or there?
- Rob Sellen :o)
it's definitely pretty. now i just need to get all of my buddies to move over to yet *another* service. ugh!
- redboy
show them how you expand on conversations from them other places here ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Welcome back, Leo :)
- Mona Nomura
It's too bad more people (in my circle of friends) don't use friendfeed. Then again, they don't use Twitter either. Everyone is on Facebook tho :-/
- Doug Jones
Good for you, Leo. Be one of US!
- Josh Haley
I DO agree with you there Leo Laporte.. me either.. and the new Seesmic Desktop client didn't help either.. friendfeed ftw
- Qbat
I haven't visited Twitter since I figured out how to post via IRC.
- Pete Brown
My Twitter activity has dropped as well. What's ironic is that I'm hearing about a lot of Twitter issues since the new FF beta... very strange
- Bwana ☠
Rob: I meant here with the FF beta ui
- Mark Essel
I'm with you all, the FF realtime feed has almost completely replaced twitter.com for me. Wild
- Jeff Carter
I'd bet the Twitter issues are being caused by all the FriendFeeder's dumping their content back into Twitter through the API. Just a guess though.
- The Griff
mark... yeah add filters ;o) use them. :o) if not following bwana follow him... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
thanks Rob, I suppose there's a better way to get this to update then hitting refresh?
- Mark Essel
it all updates live time now anyway. :o) but yeah use filters ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think in a lot of ways Twitter is *too* minimalist. I appreciate at least one level of comment threading that almost every other site supports. Also, sometimes I like to be wordy and don't want to post everything in 160 character chunks.
- Doug Jones
@Rob: I get all interesting posts delivered to Tweetdeck anyway (because ppl crosspost) and always used FF for discussions and not "regular updates".. I'm pretty happy with Facebook, being for close friends, FriendFeed being for discussions and Twitter for everything else (like recently spending time with my friend, the whale) :)
- Dan van Moll
But Leo, you are a Social Media Butterfly. ;)
- Robert Hafer
@Bwana: That's true! Since FF beta release on monday the "whale-rate" increased significant. Twitter recently disabled the "delete" function for tweets -- maybe to ease server load (see elections 2008, where they did this, too).
- Dan van Moll
Am learning how to use FF. Pretty good I think :)
- mahjongmi
@Doug: Same here.. But I'm pretty fine with my "real life friends" being on Facebook and everyone else being on the twitters/friendfeed.. especially since the new Tweetdeck made monitoring Twitter and Facebook so easy.
- Dan van Moll
I wish I could "automatically" have all of my twitter friends' posts show up in ff. I've imported all of my twitter friends who are on ff, into ff, but for those twitter friends who are NOT on ff, is what I'm missing, and forcing me to still watch twitter a bit. Any good solutions to that?
- Dan Nimtz
This is interesting? Will this be the new twitter? I would like some customization too.
- Disney By The Numbers
what i am waiting for Dan.. that way I can stop using twitter full stop :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm maybe I should just invest a little more time into "learning friendfeed" (especially lists). In general it has everything Twitter got plus a better visualization of discussions.. do you all use the website or are there tools like Tweetdeck out yet?
- Dan van Moll
use the website dan ;o) how can we all not improve it via feedback if we dont use it ;o) these people ACT on feedback ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob: Hmm sounds reasonable =)
- Dan van Moll
ok I'm following @bwana, now to find those filters...(got blind sided by 3 articles)
- Mark Essel
Figured out how to see non FF Twitter friends on my feed...may not work for protected updates tho.
- The Griff
Griff.. care to share? i got a room with all my twitter replies going to it.. but really want a stream with ALL my twitter in it, so i just reply from here.
- Rob Sellen :o)
ahh I see there's a beta.friendfeed.com hmmm looks familiar
- Mark Essel
Posted it to my feed. Basically just "Create a Feed", make it private if you want. Then add the twitter service pointing to your (unprotected) friends. Can do one feed per friend to make it clearer or one big feed if you want. Still checking whether it'll work for protected friends...thinking it might since you are already signed into Twitter from FF.
- The Griff
The funny thing is that I read this while listening to the Gillmor Gang from last weekend which was all about Friendfeed.
- Michael K Pate
Leo, do you think that will continue?
- Ed
I'm visiting it a lot less, too.
- Robert Scoble
Leo, are you automatically creating imaginary friends for people that are on Twitter but not on FriendFeed? Anyone know of something automated for that?
- Jason Carter
Same here. Now if only FriendFeed had a native iPhone App. But Nambu is pretty good.
- Adam Nieto
thats what I already do griff.. i dont get the whole twitter stream.. ;o(
- Rob Sellen :o)
I did once... to follow someone who was only on twitter. But this place is home now.
- Aaron
Trying out friendfeed for the first time... seems pretty cool
- Danny Dunn
I think I might just make this my home too!
- Kevin J Hatton
welcome to all you new users. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
do you follow all your twitter friends here? I wasn't able to get that rss feed into FF
- Mark Essel
Really glad to have you over here Leo. It really is a superior medium.
- Thomas Hawk
Liking the iPhone UI though a native app will be nice. Tweetie sets the bar for Twitter clients let's hope for something similar on the iPhone. But I would like a desktop app too.
- Ken Knight
I'll visit Twitter just to see if people have replied to me in Twitter.
- John E. Bredehoft
Honnestly, I don't understand. You've just "broadcasted" this message, Leo. Where's your contribution to this discussion? Live, real-time or not... where's the difference (to you)?
- directeur
Griff: Not clear on what you're doing and/or getting out of the feed you made. Rob's question seems to still stand? What the goal is: Have all those that you follow on twitter to be feeding in (as FF friends or as invisible friends) to a single feed which would then represent everything that you would see via the twitter web page. Not necessarily real elegant, but less frustrating that fail whales ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've looked at Twitter more since Beta came out than the previous 30 days.
- JSNFLMNG
Twitter may be a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
- Louis Gray
I was forced there as the corporate firewall blocked out friendfeed :S
- Sanne Buurma
++++ louis. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Now that I've set up Friend Feed. I'm agreeing with Leo
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
from Alert Thingy
Trying to find a groove on using FF, Tweetdeck & all others...
- Judd6149
welcome to you new users... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
judd... just use ths ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I can't completely cut the cord from the twitters. Way too many friends there that will NEVER use friendfeed.
- tomit
I initially had one private feed setup for all of my non-FF Twitter friends. I've switched to having a private feed set per non-FF Twitter friend. Each time a friend posts on Twitter it comes into my FF stream. I can then reply and by checking the box send an @ reply back to Twitter. Hope that answers the question @guruvan. The problem with having the single feed is that people become unidentifiable. I'm sure an enhancement could be made to FF to fix that. Think the 1:1 is better though.
- The Griff
that is really awesome!! FF is kicking ass! woo hoo!
- Susan Beebe
The new FF Ui might very well be the perfect excuse to stop visiting twitter.
- Pedro Fonseca
I have, but I started using FriendFeed more after the UI change
- Cristian
I generally like the new UI but, I have to say, I'm getting burned out on the long comment threads here on FriendFeed. I just don't have time for it and I'm getting better information density on Twitter. Less is more for me.
- Mike Doeff
Leo is in the bag :-D
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
It would be nice if FF implemented a Twitter client using the API and automatically made non-FF users imaginary.
- Peter Warnock
How about opening up a method in the API to create imaginary friends and let the community build some tools to automate porting friends from other services?
- Brian Stoner
Then why is it all up and down FF, I see posts from you from Twitter, Leo? Am I missing something?
- Steve Austin
Steve, if you view the Twitter profile and see the source they are from FriendFeed, Tumblr etc ;)
- Nicholas James
So when I see the twitter icon next to one of his posts, that doesn't mean that it was first posted on twitter? I'm not trying to be accusatory or anything, just trying to learn...
- Steve Austin
I second this motion. Tired of recreating friend groups.
- Bryan Griffith
Steve; sometimes posts which receive "likes" and "comments" get bumped in the users feed. Although it does appear that Leo is using Twitter unless FriendFeed is recognizing the imported Tumblr items to Twitter as a source from Twitter. I'm not exactly sure on that.
- Nicholas James
Is Twitter up? ;-)
- zeroinfluencer
It seems as though most people on Twitter INSIST on posting the very same tweets here, too. So what's the point of reading Twitter again?
- Stan Scott
That is the frustration most have. FF consolidates all feeds for all social sites in one location, so redundancy is inevitable.Now if FF incorporated a service like Ping.fm into the site, and build an app to support all mobile phones and appliances you would never have to go anywhere else! ;)
- Aaron Friedman
My reaction is that FriendFeed does not really add value over Twitter and other silos.
- Scott Royall
That's nothing yet! I haven't ate, drank or slept since the beta came out. I'm gonna sue these FF bastards, mark my words. ;)
- Meryn Stol
Scott: really? You clearly have NOT looked very deeply.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter never got me, or i never really "got" twitter. I'm much happier here on FF, not really because its real time, but because i find the content and conversations much more interesting.
- Lasse Johnsen
Oh and i actually FIND the content and conversations here.
- Lasse Johnsen
I have said it before and I'll say it again: How much can you really say in 140 characters anyway?
- Meryn Stol
lol
- Rachael Depp
a few words meryn... :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Are you serious? The best part is the simplicity of threading on tweets, and watching quality content in your network rise to the top.
- Kevin Elliott
likewise
- CharlieWhiskey™
I'm unimpresed. Think about it. You have to have an account on every service you want to aggregate. Each of those accounts has to be maintained. If you don't have those sources, you have a very dull FF account.
- Scott Royall
Scott, you can participate on FF without using any external services. Just comment, and post messages (and links) yourself. It's very much like Twitter then. Only way better UI. A UI which is impossible to duplicate on the Twitter platform atm.
- Meryn Stol
You want imaginary accounts that generates imaginary content? Thats totally Web 5.0!
- Lasse Johnsen
Yeah? :-) Good for you :-). I was enjoying your episode on the xserve today.
- Richard A.
What is the goal of Social Networking? To provide a way to interact with people who interest us, right? So why do we keep re-inventing it? Each time we do, we have to rebuild our commnities.
- Scott Royall
Scott: because we keep figuring out new things to do with it. Yelp is a social network for restaurant reviews. Upcoming.org is a social network for events. Friendfeed is needed because Twitter doesn't do enough. I'm sure there'll be others that will come along that will compete with friendfeed, too.
- Robert Scoble
My take: Something like FF ends up accidentally doing the opposite of what it intends by creating yet another refuge for discerning users to flee to.
- Scott Royall
Scott: ff is doing something other social networks have proven incapable of doing so far. First, it's live. Second, it has filtering that Twitter will never be able to match (Twitter doesn't have the metadata that friendfeed has). Third, friendfeed has a much better conversation surface than Twitter does (or facebook). Fourth, friendfeed's rooms (er, feeds) are a place where you can do private business much better than on any other network. Fifth, friendfeed's direct messaging features actually work.
- Robert Scoble
Finally, I just saw my fifth fail whale of the day over on Twitter. Friendfeed hasn't failed for me EVER (it was down for an hour quite a few months ago but is 100 times more reliable than Twitter and faster than Facebook).
- Robert Scoble
I am happy for you. Unfortunately you still cannot get Friendfeed via SMS so when I am at work, I cannot get those updates so I will stick with both.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Paul: yup, there's a lot of things that Twitter does that friendfeed doesn't. It's why I stay on both too.
- Robert Scoble
Paul, you can receive FF updates via IM, would that be a viable option?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yes Robert, you duplicate effort, which was my point.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there's a tax to pay and I paid it. Yes! :-)
- Robert Scoble
hope you don't mind me using this thread in my blog post today : http://www.techsoomer.com/friendf...
- Kevin Pruett
Robert, social networking is a major part of your life. I think most people just fit it in.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there are more and more people who make this stuff a major part of their lives. You've gotta see the engagement stats for Facebook. Off the charts. My wife is addicted.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, go for it.
- Scott Royall
@leo et al: I haven't visited FriendFeed since the new TweetDeck came out ;-)
- Jason Goldberg
Jason: are you on http://beta.friendfeed.com ? Tweetdeck is a lot less interesting than it used to be.
- Robert Scoble
I am glad you are accessible to us fans now :) You do amazing work. I am glad your not bound by tech tv any more and can do what ya like ^_^
- Stephen
Same here.. the instant FF released it's new UI. Twitter is acting like Cry baby with Fail Whales http://is.gd/rGcJ
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
It's all Rob's fault that twitter is being ignored by me. Is it coincidence with the new ff ui? They say that things happen in perfect timing, when they're supposed to.
- Myrna
It seems to me there are two sides to social media: personal and professional. Just when I figured Twitter would win the professional side Friendfeed beta comes out. I have to wonder if the beta will cause the services' roles to switch. Then again why would anyone but close friends care about my Netflix queue, etc? Perhaps that's what filtering will help but FF needs some templates.
- The Griff
please pardon me, but new UI is terrible :P I pray God twitter will never change.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
To people who say the new Friendfeed real-time feed is too fast: follow fewer people. Or use filters more. Real time = real life.
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It's all about the filters ... but most people wont set them up. The system needs to be smart enough to know.
- Jason Goldberg
To people who say I should follow fewer people: if I can have a conversation with one person in a stadium filled with tens of thousands, I should be able to do the same thing on a webservice where I follow only 1300. Not to mention using filters implies that I know today the interesting and compelling content that others will post tomorrow. Again, just how I use the service. Others may use it differently.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We should be ab le to filter on the fly... that would help.
- Wolfman-K
Following fewer people reduces the usefulness of the service. Filters might be a good way of handling things, but how do I know they aren't filtering out things that I'd actually want to see?
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
This is one of the things that's so appealing about the new FF: with filters, I can see in real-time the stuff I *want* to know about as soon as it happens, and peruse the rest as I feel like it.
- Ryan Waldron
Real life.. I see that phrase often in games like WoW and RoM. I prefer the virtual version :)
- Michele
I'm not sure I appreciate the added value of the beta design, particularly in light of the additional management and time it's going to take me to get it right. The current design has flaws (such as content updating out from underneath you when visiting a link) that are further amplified in the new design. There must be a way to address the update and management issues.
- Loren Heiny
The new friendfeed is like talking on a party - to all people at the same time. I feel like a social juggler.
- Dan van Moll
Loren: The link issue could be solved by Paul & co. stealing the Diggbar from under Kevin Rose's nose.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Perhaps they should add settings like Twitterfall has...
- Cris McRae
I am still learning how to use it myself, but I training myself
- Ike
What do you think about the new Friendfeed User Interface? See the poll: http://twtpoll.com/q68d2y
- Yaron Orenstein
I've said it elsewhere, the more people you follow, the more of a need there is for filtering. It's not a preference, it's essential. It's true in Twitter, it's true in Friendfeed, it's true in email, it's true in Facebook. If you refuse to use the tools they have given you to manage the noise, then you have to deal with the it's design. That's your choice.
- Bwana ☠
Just heard on Cnet BuzzOutLoud (http://bol.cnet.com/) that it may not be visible to everyone yet. See http://beta.friendfeed.com/ and see if you experience the new features.
- Andy Pflueger
I'm pretty sure I don't have 300—let alone 3—people in real life constantly telling me every single thing they do and create in real time. ;) They send me an e-mail, a tweet, or I catch up on their activity in my Flickr contacts list on my own time. This is a very different and interesting shift for social media.
- David Chartier
Mine's not moving fast at all. I suppose I wasn't using it to it's full capacity before... :-\
- David Wynn
Bwana: Filtering isn't the panacea you're making it out to be. There's a reason I follow the people and topics I do, and if I filter them out just to save some peace of mind, I might as well just unfollow them entirely.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Looking for a good filter tutorial link. Anyone?
- Trevor Childs
Subscribe to Bwana he has some good filter examples.
- Jared B. Luther
Yet another person who tells me that, in order to use FF, I need to change my behavior.
- Mistletoe Glen
No way I'm following fewer people. The more I follow, the more fun I have here. So far, not too fast for me. We'll see tonight when it hits prime time.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Well, I still have lists and I can pause the updates, so I can use it however I like. It's definitely fun! I'll be using Friendfeed more, I'd wager, with the new interface. I actually feel less inundated, since I have nifty filtering. I'll be able to follow a lot more people!
- jojo, adventurer
Jason Goldberg: "The system needs to be smart enough to know." Forget lists and filters. Smart automated recommender systems are the future of social media. Why isn't Friendfeed leading the way?
- Sean McBride
Umm no, this is not real life.
- Corvida
Since when is it the user's fault when the user interface doesn't work as expected?
- Albert Willis
To people who say you should filter more for getting the real life: they should get out of their geek-holes and understand what it is to make choices for real life persons. :p
- Ton Zijp
I think the beta is awesome. Looks great on my iPhone in landscape mode.
- Steve Sill
i don't agree with the premise that because real time = real life folks should be able to keep up with their interests by scaling down their activity or number of people they happen to follow on a site like this. that's a nice simple thing to write, but it's certainly not practical if you're looking to interact with people on friendfeed. it's sites like these that afford all kinds of info to be exchanged among all kinds of people -- much more than in "real life." if the point of exchanging information lies
- Cee Bee
How about having less followers? I don't understand this kind of maths really. If everyone starts following less people just to use a "tool", your own voice won't be noticed. I'll follow everyone I think he/she could bring more knowledge/fun to me and it'll be up to the tool to satisfy my needs, not the opposite
- directeur
with a few people what's the point of being on a site like ff?
- Cee Bee
There's a live back channel for the Gillmor Gang Leo's streaming right now at http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...
- Ken Sheppardson
Indeed, _very_ aggressive "hide" and "unsubscribe" are at least turning FF's "river of shit" UI a bit more palatable.
- Dossy Shiobara
Don't make ME fix your problems. If it's too fast, it's too fast, and FF will have to live with the consequences.
- Mistletoe Glen
In real-life, I don't have 1000 friends. And Leo, we're not friends in RL, right?
- AJ Batac
I asked yesterday how anyone actually kept up with hundreds of people on twitter. Never got a response, so I figure people actually don't.
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
People mostly use Twitter as a bullhorn; I doubt that many feeds are being read very carefully.
- Sean McBride
or just hit pause. it's not that big of a deal. you just hit refresh like you always have.
- Nathan Chase
Agree with Tina. Filtering for topics implies a preset agenda of interests which makes it much less interesting. And if real life was so great more people would live there :-)
- Todd Hoff
I didn't even know there are filters. They could make it easier to notice and use like put a filter button there on the page. Or explain that you can do that and how to do it.
- Nathan Mylott
It's not a matter of telling you HOW to use something, it's a matter of telling what's available to help you DEAL with data overload. Lists and Filters are there to help consume the data in a manner which is pleasurable. It's not the only way to use FF, but it's something to ADD to your existing way of using the tool to make it better. I realize not everyone uses the tool like I do, but the features I talk about are there to HELP you manage the madness.
- Bwana ☠
For example, not everyone uses labels in Gmail to manage their emails. But I've recommended some people use labels to organize the information and it has helped them. For others, it hasn't. The point remains, that labels are there to help with that and they are worth a try to see if it works. It's part of the toolset. Same is true with Lists and Filters on FF. They are there to help you. Give them a try. If they don't work, fine. Plenty of people have found they do work and that's why we say use it
- Bwana ☠
Me, I have an "Everything" list so I can see all my followers... but sometimes, I need a break and I move to my other lists or fiilters to munch on those. I spend the most time in the Everything list though. My home feed consists of individuals who I have liked or commented on more than 50 or 60 times..
- Bwana ☠
I'm not sure following fewer is the best idea. The pause button puts the whole site back into static mode, i.e. what the old FF is. So just hit that. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
It's already gotten better, since yesterdays hype slowly went down. I'm quite happy with the (number of) followers now... It's manageable.
- Holger Eilhard
Personally I can not see what all the hoopla is about. May be due to not following a hunndred people
- Greg
I just started using it, and I love it so far.. I can now see what Leo and Steve were so excited about.
- BASEnet
Liberal use of the "Hide" link works wonders to keep things clean. Also, adding ?num=100 to the end of the beta URL keeps things on the first page (thx Stupid Blogger/FFer (aka Tina)!)
- Aaron Fowler
...And... Leo haven't commented here after 23 hours. Busy man. Busy man.
- AJ Batac
I like how powerful the filtering is.
- David Delony
just wish there was some type of sms capacity, like twitter
- Steve Austin
Well Said Leo: "Real-Time = Real-Life" and I can't wait for Facebook and Twitter to get real!
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Leo: real life is throwing up on your shoes, too. don't want that.
- MikeAmundsen
Who is the best UI designer you know and what was their most recent amazing design work? I'm loving @jasonsantamaria
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some url please?
- Roberto Chibbaro
others?
- Jason Goldberg
Socialmedian Makes It Easy For You To Spread Social News On Facebook - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Any of ya'll Social Median users? Any thoughts pro or con the service?
- Marko Bon
from Bookmarklet
@marko bon -- i'm biased as i founded socialmedian, but we have a lot of diehard users who love the service and who provide us with awesome feedback that helps us keep making it better and better.
- Jason Goldberg
Just "liked" for the first time on Facebook. It was unfulfilling. :)
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it's a poor second to friendfeed for sure.
- Laura Norvig
I'll second that.
- Victoria Plautia
I agree. I used to explain to my friends on Facebook that Twitter was like status updates and Friendfeed is like the Facebook news feed. Facebook seems to be evolving to mirror Twitter and Friendfeed. The question is, will it work?
- Christian Anderson
@christian Facebook will win. Fast following is very smart for them.
- Jason Goldberg
I posed that badly. What I should have said is, will aping Twitter and FF features make for popular features on FB or are FF/Twitter use cases and users sufficiently different as to make borrowing from FF/Twitter a waste?
- Christian Anderson
Photographing police could land you in prison for ten years under new UK law
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Submitted By Koltregaskes: By Carlos Miller In case the War on Photography hasn’t sent a chill down your spine yet, this one should do it. Beginning February 16th, a new law will go into effect in the United Kingdom which would make it illegal to photograph “members of armed forces, a member of the intelligence services, or a police officer,” according to the British Jour... Permalink
- Kol Tregaskes
these clipped stories are interesting but for some reason the links are not showing up in FF.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, yeah I need to chat to socialmedian about this, the link goes to my clipped items and not the specific item. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
hmmm ... looks like something is strange with the way your socialmedian clips are imported to FF. Checking.
- Jason Goldberg
Thanks, Jason. It would be great if it could bring in any images too?? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bring Your Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, and Hotmail Friends to socialmedian! - http://blog.socialmedian.com/2009...
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socialmedian now has an easy friend finder so you can easily find and subscribe to your Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, and Hotmail friends who are already on socialmedian. When you connect socialmedian and Facebook socialmedian will also enable you to automatically follow your Facebook friends if they should ever join socialmedian in the future. What to connect with your Twitter buddies? Just enter your Twitter ID (no password required) ...
- Jason Goldberg
The biggest pain with socialmedian is having to log in every time I go there, can I have a persistent encrypted cookie please? (Never thought I would ask for that kind of cookie either) :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
@dan socialmedian should keep you logged in. what o/s, browser, etc are you using?
- Jason Goldberg
@Jason - firefox 3X - never remembers me at all, vista, all updates and patches, drop me a note rmorrill@gmail.com and we can yak about this one. Does this on XP, my Apple, Vista, doesn't matter what computer I use.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
wow strange. maybe you smell funny or something? (bad attempt at humor) ... it should keep you logged in always
- Jason Goldberg
@Jason - well I do need a shower today :-) LOL r/d
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Jason: Great new feature.
- Kevin Whalen
it's a great idea, because the challenge for all social sites is to get the user to the "critical point" when the social value becomes evident. I know many sites that were probably very clever but I never tried long enough to reach that point. Socialmedian was at risk of that for me, but a new batch of contacts might change that.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Bring Your Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, and Hotmail Friends to socialmedian! - http://blog.socialmedian.com/2009...
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socialmedian now has an easy friend finder so you can easily find and subscribe to your Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, and Hotmail friends who are already on socialmedian. When you connect socialmedian and Facebook socialmedian will also enable you to automatically follow your Facebook friends if they should ever join socialmedian in the future. What to connect with your Twitter buddies? Just enter your Twitter ID (no password required) ...
- Jason Goldberg
CNN-Facebook Live Feed, Very cool. - http://www.cnn.com/video...
Daniel Rowley, Anthony Citrano, Bill Romanos and 15 other people liked this
This is the first thing I've seen that has made me actually think, "Twitter Killer!" If this is the sign of things to come with FB connect, this is quite simply that: A very mainstream Twitter-like experience married with video or any sort of mainstream content = Twitter Killer. It doesn't replace Twitter but certainly will give mainstreamers less and less reason to try Twitter vs. just play along with experiences like this.
- Jason Goldberg
I was also impressed until I kept getting booted out. Not quite there with Facebook Connect.
- Kevin Whalen
I got booted off right when he started to take the oath of office, and it came on right after he finished. I missed it! I was so pissed, but this isa very promising platform now!
- Michael Fidler
from twhirl
Michael: Yeah, I agree. I do like the possibilities of using FB in ways like this.
- Kevin Whalen
I had a very smooth & stable CNN connection all the time over here in Germany. I also loved the four live channels. The Facebook 'window' lagged very fast ~4 minutes & in the end 30m. Closing & expanding resynced the flow (I was not logged in).
- Markus Merz
When you go to the movies, do you sit through the final credits?
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when I'm by myself, yes. Most other folks don't seem to like to do that, though.
- Jason Toney
Yep.
- Steven Perez
Sometimes. Same as Jason, usually, it depends on who I'm with and whether they're up and ready to leave as soon as the credits start rolling.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
sometimes :p
- Tad
sometimes
- RAPatton
If I liked the movie, yes. If not, no.
- Helen Sventitsky
Depends on if I want to see who someone in the cast or crew was, or if I expect out-takes or other entertaining additions.
- LogEx
What Logical Extremes said. Exactly.
- Bora Zivkovic
One of the things they first taught us when I went to film school is to sit through the credits out of respect. Movies are a huge endeavor and it takes hundreds of people to bring a movie from concept to screen and the least we can do is honor their hard work by sitting through to acknowledge their work by sitting through the credits.
- Derrick
Not anymore.
- Rodfather
If the movie had interesting music I will watch the end credits to see who did it, but it's pretty rare for me to see a movie that I really like these days, so usually not.
- Jeremy Brooks
depends on the movie, who i am with and also the crowd. if its a packed house i stick around. also in the case of some of the marvel joints i stay to catch the teaser.
- Carlos Ayala
@Derrick: That was probably the time I sat through the entire credits. Around the time I took a film class.
- Rodfather
I tend to, unless the movie really sucked.
- Kamilah Gill
Yes
- Yolanda
from NoiseRiver
If there´s a blooper reel or some kind of extras underneath/besides the credits (smart) or the music is good.
- Thomas Bøhm
YES
- Egyirba
yes, unless I am with a friend who simply can't handle looking so uncool </fececious>
- Josh Haley
No, I'm uncool. Unless they do something more interesting then scrolling names.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Yes. Always, unless external circumstances prohibit (i.e., needing to use the restroom or being late for something else).
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I try to just to honor the people whose time, effort, and imagination went into the flick. The hardest opponent to staying for the credits is when family & friends are super ready to leave:(
- Roney Smith
from twhirl
Yes, in case there are weird scenes at the end.
- Morton Fox
Yep. If Ferris Bueller taught us anything, it's to wait till the very end *nodself*
- Michael W. May
Once, in a specialist cinema in London and the whole cinema was crying, it was a few minutes after the credits had finished before anyone left. Everyone was so moved, the lady infront of me was inconsolable. My fav cinema moment to date. This is the film - http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Toby Graham
Enjoyed the flick Check. Bladder not about to rupture Check. Had a sense that Protagonist's personal assistant did a good job Check. Someone sitting next to me doesn't believe it when I say that character actor is 'that guy' from from 'you know that other movie' Check. Want to confirm that some resemblance to real persons, living or dead, was purely coincidental Check. Then Yes.
- Micah Wittman
yep, I just get up when everybody left the room. Unless I'm late for something else, which only happens during the film festivals, when I want to watch several films a day in different rooms.
- Bibi
Yes, if it's a Pixar movie or I know that there's something after the credits...otherwise, no.
- Alex Scoble
If it was THAT good, Yes. Yes I do.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
no.
- ♥patricia♥
@Toby: I have that DVD. I love Beat Takeshi films.
- Rodfather
No, even though it seems more and more movies are having little scenes at the end.
- Shevonne
@Derrick It may be true that it takes a lot of work to make a film, but the same goes for making a book, a car, a magazine, a newspaper and I don't have anything in the back of those taking up space with a long list of names I probably will never read. The credits are there because in early Hollywood, prod companies would short workers by saying they never worked on a film, the credits ensure that their work is there and companies can't short them. But I think there has to be a better way to do this.
- Mattie Kenny
Rodfather, Beat Takeshi is an amazing filmmaker, no question.
- Toby Graham
Usually not. But sometimes I just need to know who was still photographer...
- Håkan Dahlström
I miss the days of old when the credits had the major roles, director, producer and music. The rolling credits we have today are so sprawling and frankly, I don't give a damn who catered the craft services table, but that's right in the credits along with the 2nd unit best boy.
- Mattie Kenny
When I'm with my dad we do.
- felicious
But to answer your question, yes, I always sit through them.
- Mattie Kenny
Sometimes.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Only occasionally. It depends on the film and how I feel at the end. If I enjoyed it a great deal and feel like I need some time to mull it over, I wait. If I hated the movie and really have to pee, I'm out of there.
- James Ferguson
Only when I know there's something good at the end. Barely though. I used to run out right when the credits started -- but then I got married and my husband is a bit slower.
- Tamar Weinberg
Depends on the movie. If I have to pull myself together and stop crying, it's more likely I'll sit through them than if it was a cute comedy and I'm ready to get going.
- Rochelle
Only if my wife makes me ;)
- Kenton
almost always. unless I didn't enjoy the movie or I have to pee. if I'm with someone who doesn't watch credits I'll ask for them to wait for me in the lobby.
- jbrotherlove
have to admit only for movies with cool fx work or animation, or if i've heard there was something extra in there.
- sergiooo
Yes, for the soundtrack.
- Reuben Thum
depends on how good the movie is and if it has a good soundtrack :)
- Anna Lynn M.
Oh yes. I'm addicted to production stuff especially voice coaches, locations and catering.
- Kate Foy
yep
- Anna Haro
All the time.
- Chris Luckhardt
sometimes, if it was a great movie. always if it is dvd
- Janet
most of the time, no. if i'm *really* blown away by the film, yes.
- Melissa
only if I know there's supposed to be something afterwards, as some films tend to do... or if the people I'm with are having a heated discussion about whether they liked the film or not
- Nathan Chase
nope, unless I know there is something to be seen
- jamar78
Nope. Never. I can catch the extra scene on Youtube or something :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Yep.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Yes... my wife loves the final credits
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
yes, if it's a pixar type of movie with outtakes in the credits. or sometimes i do it to catch the name of that actor whose face was kind of familiar, but whose name i forgot. ... i don't do movies that often though.
- tiffany
always. my friends understand this. My family though, does not.
- Pete Delucchi
Yes, if it's just me and Shawn.
- Alix Whitmire
yes
- Marcos Marado
only if my fingers are still occupied
- sofarsoShawn
Sometimes, not always though
- Nia
yep
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Rarely. We are usually up and on the way out as they start. Unless it is one of the movies that has a trailer for a forthcoming pic afterwards. Can't remember the last one it happened on ? Could have been Dark Knight.
- Rob Brammeld
I miss the opening credits, sleep through the movie, and skip the final credits.. (this chick flick i went with someone.. )
- ◄ani625Ξ
Sometimes, if it's a good movie!
- Will Higgins™
Yes
- Johnny Worthington
I've seen slumdog millionaire twice and both times the entire audience stayed through the credits
- Jason Goldberg
I like to. And I do. Except that there are these annoying people who stand up and mill about trying to make their way to the exit. They block my way. So I have to stand up. When I do that, my friends assume I want to leave too and they get up too. Then I am faced with a choice - either tell them I am just watching the credits, or leave. I usually end up leaving.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
yes & no, depends on the movie, the actors, the music, the images (from a photographic point of view)
- Olivier
I tend to go to movies with someone else and feel they don't want to and we all want to get out and away before the rush. But I always watch the credits when playing a movie. If you've ever been on a list of credits yourself you appreciate it when people take the time and effort to at least sit through them. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
No, unless I know there is extra footage within or after the credits.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Not for me, but yes, for the company. One of our biggest vertical markets is post production and special effects, so we try to find out which studios worked on which films, or even to see the names of our customers.
- Louis Gray
I do now that many people put scenes at the end of the credits. Didn't before
- Alan Simpson
depends on the outro music and also whether there's a rush for the doors
- randulo
Yes, we do. I do it because it's a sign of respect to the people who worked on the movie. There are times when we've seen a movie more than once that we don't always sit through the credits after the first time, but other than that we stay.
- Cheryl Jones
Depends on the movie--I usually only do it if I want to know who did something specific or there are interesting things going on in the credits.
- Kelly W.
Always
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
most of the time
- Jeff Quinton
naah, usually not... used to go to the cinema all the time - till i got married had a kid, and no its home evening all days, lol
- Peter Efland
Yes. Always. And not just to see an easter egg. I like to know how many people were involved in the production of the film.
- Phil G
Usually, unless I really, really have to pee.
- felix
Only if someone has let me know there is something going to happen at the end. Or if I'm dying to find out something that's been bugging me through the whole damn movie like an actor name or a song title.
- Nurse Katie
if it's a really good movie i do
- cjmart
Yes....
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Depends on the film.
- ·[▪_▪]·
depends on if I got the refill on the soda or not.....
- Morgan Haley
If you don't, you might miss stuff.
- Great Scott!
I can't say I do. I have no idea why you would, there isn't anything to miss. Is there?
- Sean
Yes I do and this is my all time favourite, although you might have to be British to appreciate or remember one of the greatest drama series ever seen on tv: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Sally Church
Liked on socialmedian: socialmedian Launches Simple One-Click Filters! - http://www.socialmedian.com/story...
File under "you asked for it, you've got it:" socialmedian today is launching simple one-click filters. This was one of our most frequent recent user request. socialmedian users can now filter their "my networks" and "my newsmakers" tabs by the following criteria with just one click on an icon: * Filter out stories I've already read (remove my clips) -- YAY!!! * Show me the most popular stories of today, or of this week. * Filter out all 3rd party services from the current view (e.g. Twitter, Flickr, YouTube, Google Reader, etc.) * You can also combine filters (e.g. show me the most popular stories of today that I have not clipped and not including Twitter stories).
- Jason Goldberg
Cool! I just got a free SocialMedian tshirt in the mail! My first Interwebs Tshirt! w00t!
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That IS cool. I remember when I went begging for my first tee (which is not to say you begged). It was from an internet company that competed with the company my friend owned. My friend pretended to be indignant, and I reminded him that I'd asked HIM for a shirt. I suppose I should reassess my values :D.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I scored a nice fleece jacket from them too. Jason was on the ball with swag :)
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
I'm doubly impressed because they sent it to Australia for me.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
T-shirts will travel wherever feedback comes from
- Jason Goldberg
Re: louisgray.com: 10 Ways to Maximize Your Google Reader Link Blog - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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"Great article, Louis. Very useful, I've put my shared items in Feedheads and RSSmeme (ReadBurner next when it's working again). Are you saying that you can import your GR shared items automatically into socialmedian?"
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, you can input all your GR shared items automatically into socialmedian. Go to "Add something > sites > google reader"
- Jason Goldberg
Thanks, Jason. I'll give that a go. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Is it just me or is FriendFeed dead quiet in the mornings [mainly driected at the UK/Europe]>
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I find it doesn't start to wake up until 3pm, when America wakes up I guess? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
extremely quiet in the morning and early afternoon!
- ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
Then all the big action goes on overnight and you get a completely new fresh best of the day page when you wake up in the morning.
- Kol Tregaskes
I feel like I miss out. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Yup. I'm usually an early riser (usually around 4am Eastern North America time, give or take an hour or so on either side)...I've almost given up on getting likes or comments for anything I post early in the morning here.
- Scott of Two Countries
We need to get more people from this side of the "river" on FriendFeed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, I feel that too, except down here its . . . well I guess it's morning too 12.42 am on Thursday morning . . . does get a bit quiet. I wonder why that is?
- Chris Loft
it ism yes. I need to get more brits onto here.
- alphaxion
I agree, it seems too quiet here, sometimes.
- Tyson Key
I think most people start wasting time after lunch, before that it is wasted for them by meetings
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
in relation to "the other side of the river" there are not so many people really using ff for conversation. they are just aggregating all there stuff without even looking in here from time to time. just my impression (especially on the german scene)
- esther ♥ ♫
Esther, I see a lot of everything (FF converse and aggregation, though I'm following lots. I probably see more FF stuff then say Twitter and the rest but it all depends on who you follow.
- Kol Tregaskes
I find that FF wakes up when silicon valley wakes up. When i'm in india, it's like waiting waiting waiting for FF to get going. vs. twitter which is always alive.
- Jason Goldberg
I agree. Its always like this.
- Roberto Bonini
Jason, yeah Twitter is always busy regardless of the time.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, it sure is... There are a few people but I don't see many FF'ers from this part of the world (at least not in my feed).
- Holger Eilhard
Shame you cannot search FFers by region/country. I'd like to follow more Brits/Europeans, well more non-US people (no offence to the guys from America but I'm sure they agree they dominate FF :-)).
- Kol Tregaskes
Like around now? Yup
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, good morning, (well afternoon). Oh look just gone 3pm. Yes exactly. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm on the west coast, and I've found that no matter the website (with the exception of DailyKos), People complain about it being dead utnil about no. I don't know that there's more west coasters on these sites, but it does seem most of us have a lot more leeway in our work lives that the earlier rising east or midwest risers.
- Admiral Anika
the rest of us try to do some work?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I find it very relaxing, when I'm connecting around 8 am (France time), only Kol is posting. That way I have news from UK. Then around 13h, Scobble wakes up ...
- Olivier Castets
I'm quite likely in the fact that my job includes times where I set my laptop off to calculate or download/upload big files, meaning I'm either staring at the screen waiting for these to complete or I can spin over to my desktop and check FF, etc. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Added news on socialmedian: socialmedian Launches News Flash! - http://www.socialmedian.com/story...
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Feedback please on this one ... it's a VERY young feature. Shipped it way early.
- Jason Goldberg
*sigh* I'm turning into such a social media slut. Is this anyway to start a new year? Anyway I broke down and joined SocialMedian should anyone care http://www.socialmedian.com/StevenH... :)
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yeah well me too, but at least I have my name on all of these networks ;)
- Keith - @tsudo
welcome to one more place to play. Race you to the swings!
- MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
*hits it*
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Steven - you're so damn easy...
- Hutch Carpenter
Oh sure, join it after it's been acquired, and discussed for nine months. Slut.
- Louis Gray
/me hangs his head in shame and goes looking for a new social media startup that no-one has heard of and abase himself infront of it
- Steven Hodson
Im confused, Steven...why should I sign up? Would it get more people to read and comment on my blog?
- Zach Landes
@Zach - one of the reasons I ended up there tonight was because I've been seeing an increasing number of hits coming into the blog from there so I figured I better check it out and since I was there and the Register button was whispering sweet nothings in my ear .. well the rest is history
- Steven Hodson
@Steven I signed up...hell, why not :)
- Zach Landes
Following you on SM now, but you probably already know that. :)
- Phil G
Welcome Steve, Zach, and everyone else new to socialmedian. Let us know how to make it work better for you please. Nice to hear we are sending some traffic your way.
- Jason Goldberg
you whore
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I followed you this morning via your blog post - saw you there... immediately followed :) BTW that blog post was FABULOUS!! nice work~!
- Susan Beebe
@Shey - thanks :) and @Phil - ahyupper
- Steven Hodson
@Susan - thanks - glad you enjoyed the post
- Steven Hodson
that's a good thing Steve
- Thomas Power
I'm working on an event about the real-time web for mid-January. Who should be on stage? I'll discuss here:
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Will be in San Francisco. Will be a tweetup/friendfeed meetup. Will be a panel discussion among leaders in the real-time web.
- Robert Scoble
People I want:
- Robert Scoble
Define "real-time web" ?
- directeur
Evan Williams of Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Bret/Paul/Sanjeev of friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Joseph Smarr of Plaxo.
- Robert Scoble
Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
Sounds great. Perhaps a trip up north is in order :)
- Mark Krynsky
Louis Gray.
- Robert Scoble
Bret Taylor - never saw him on stage, should be interesting.
- Orli Yakuel
Who else?
- Robert Scoble
Steve Gillmor - real time web evangelist :)
- Karoli
Tim OReilly
- Kahlil Lechelt
Sounds really cool Robert... Wish I was closer to attend!
- Ben Hedrington
directeur: you're using the real-time web here. So is twitter.
- Robert Scoble
No one should be on stage. It should be a live web cast.
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Loic Le Meur of Twhirl/Seesmic (or his CTO, actually).
- Robert Scoble
Evan P - Identi.ca/Laconica
- Karoli
Well, it will be a physical event that'll be live on web. Steve Gillmor and Tim O'Reilly are good ideas.
- Robert Scoble
1938media :)
- Ramkarthik
Perhaps John McCrea, David Recordon, Beach, Stowe Boyd thinking of others.
- Mark Krynsky
Louis Gray, GuyK, You, Dave Winer, David Weinberger, Doc Searles, Marc Canter, Chris Brogan, Fred Wilson, Susan Beebe, Hugh MacLeod, Loic Le Meur, Leo Laporte, Wayne Sutton, Thomas Hawk, Laura Fitton, Howard Rheingold and the ever loving Michael Arrington.
- Thomas Power
Karoli: Evan P of Identi.ca would be good, yes. This will be in San Francisco on January 21st.
- Robert Scoble
the guys from Tweetdeck. it seems they know what they're doing.
- Orli Yakuel
Dan Rose of Facebook
- Bill Romanos
Mark: David Recordon is a must have, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Someone from Twitterspy. Someone from Tumblr. Someone from Disqus or IntenseDebate.
- AJ Kohn
Guy Kawasaki
- Susan Beebe
Oh oh pick me!
- Photar
Guy Kawasaki
- Bill Romanos
Bill: Guy would be awesome, he certainly sees the marketing potential of Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
The head of Obama's Internet-campaigning team and their government on the internet initiative.
- Bill Romanos
Bill: I seriously doubt anyone from Obama's team will be available that week. But one can dream! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some hot geek chicks .. Ijustine , Amber MacArthur ... all these geek events are always sausage partys
- johnpiercy
Sounds like a great event. Wondering if you'd be interested in getting a twitter tattoo for charity, Robert? Let's say, at the upcoming first-ever SF Twestival? We could webcast that! And take donations via twitter for WaterCharity.org while we do it! Big announcement on Monday, by the way but keep your calendar free Janary 22nd...
- alison potvin
The Tweettree developers
- Michael Fidler
john: Leah Culver would be great, she now works at Six Apart.
- Robert Scoble
Dave Winer, Steve Rubel.
- AJ Kohn
alison I don't do tatoos.
- Robert Scoble
Jeez, what's with all the A-listers? How about people who are really down in the muck making things work? I nominate Eric Marcoullier, founder of Gnip.
- Carter Rabasa
If you offer some broccoli, I bet Dave Winer would show up ;-)
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
What about AP or Reuters?
- Andrew Smith
Carter: awesome suggestion. That's why I did this so I would make sure that I actually have people who matter, not just the stars.
- Robert Scoble
How about the creators of Second Life? Lots forecasts that virtual-spaces will continue to grow.
- Bill Romanos
Great idea robert, Wonder if Eric Schmidt would considering attending? Or maybe Sergie?
- John McBride
from Alert Thingy
I'd seriously pick me. I'm awesome.
- Photar
Gnip folks for sure... Would love to meet folks who could take my experiments retweetradar.com and spy.appspot.com to the next level.
- Ben Hedrington
Bill: have you seen ANYTHING about second life here or on Twitter lately? I haven't. Until I do that's a separate event. John: Eric and Sergei would be fun but I don't think would really add to this conversation. I'll probably see them for something in Davos a week later though.
- Robert Scoble
Dustin Stallings for Twitterspy: http://github.com/dustin...
- AJ Kohn
Good question to ponder...as a relative newbie to this stuff, i'll do some research and volunteer a POV if called. Lots to digest in SM, for an ADD type, can be a stretch...
- Gregg
Since this is about the real time web only comments in the first 20 minutes count right? ;)
- Ben Hedrington
George Dearing
- Chris Geier
Mr Scoble - Jason Goldberg of Social Median - just acquired by Xing, came into the space and added enhancements to the site very fast.
- shayne catrett
Haven't seen anything on Second-Life. You're right. It may be a separate conf. But real-time collaboration could be an issue for your conference. See this link and click on the first link. [real-time collaborative spaces in intelligence community (A-SpaceX), etc. Again, it may be a bit off in the future or another conf. but check this out.: http://www.google.com/search...
- Bill Romanos
shayne: oh, yeah, jason definitely should be there. So should Drew Olanoff of strands.
- Robert Scoble
How about VC folks like Fred Wilson, Albert Wenger, etc...Esther Dyson.
- Julie Matic
Julie: I'd rather the VC types be a separate event. But I'd love to have Fred, Albert, Esther, and others in this space there.
- Robert Scoble
Real time Web event! Sounds great. Let me think about the players Robert.
- Drew Lucas
I'll second Laura Fitton, and add Jyri Engström and Chris Messina - I'd love to come along too; we haven't had a chat in a while.
- Kevin Marks
John Doerr
- Bill Romanos
How about somebody from the CIA? I thought about realtime when reading Suskind's book, The One-Percent Doctrine, where he describes how they first tapped into credit card info, but that was after the fact. They started getting somewhere with Al Quaeda money networks when they were able to dip into Western Union wire transfer and know when a cash transaction was in process... meet the recipient on the other end, bam.
- Amyloo
Kevin Marks: oh, yeah, I'm totally missing someone from Google on this. Good point!
- Robert Scoble
Amyloo some technology that was originally developed for the CIA will make it to the consumer space in 2009. But CIA stuff is outside the scope here. It would be very cool to get a demo of what they are doing, but they'd never show it in public. I think it's more likely to get an interview with Steve Jobs.
- Robert Scoble
Also, what about the rep from Obama camp that Tim OReilly alluded to in your part2 interview with Tim. Wish I could be there! This is what my Vision is about...agenda item: White Space utilization...Wi-Fi on steroids....@bcultral I am a Community Organizer :)
- bcultral
I like Amyloo's idea the best! If anyone can do it, the Scobelizer can.
- Web Pixie
a few more for thought: Geraci, Denton, Carr...
- Julie Matic
Kevin Kelly? Or how about somebody on the Ops side of the house, or GE CIO Gary Reiner, or an "internet of things" expert from UPS or FedEx
- Tom Funk
Robert, nope, they'd never come. But what really struck me about the CIA terrorist tracking practices was that it's such a great parallel to what stevegillmor has been trying to get across about track being post-data mining -- about catching people in the act being so much more valuable for marketers/governments than hearing about what the users/voters/marks did x hours or days later.
- Amyloo
I'd like to see someone from a big brand that is not playing in this space. We don't need to hear more from the people that get it. We need to hear why some still don't believe/are afraid of/can't justify it.
- Cory Hendrickson
Cory: most people have no clue what the real time web is. They barely have heard of Twitter. They might be on facebook but don't see that as real time yet and facebook isn't quite the web yet either thanks to its walled garden. I'd rather have a panel to talk about where these systems are going in 2009 first. Then a separate one where we talk about the marketing impact of these things with companies like Ford and Zappos. That's where that discussion would fit better.
- Robert Scoble
We may be nobodies but we are living a plan. My Architect for my Design SpokenWord.Tv Anton Prakash (he is doing big things with Kerner.com) @ephrontech me:@bcultral
- bcultral
Be kind of interesting to run the panel over Twitter.
- hadleystern
Definitely Guy. I loved your interview with him on Fast Company TV.
- Shaun Haney
Besides me? Are you moderating? Is there still bad blood between you and @TechCrunch? What's your goal? Just asking 25000 different people is going to get you roughly 25000 different names.... I liked the panel you had @Le Web.... Did someone already say @gapingvoid?
- Mike Shields
George Bush... he'll have time :)
- Marco Massarotto
Mike: bad blood? We fight like brothers. Goal? 2009 is when the real time web really takes off. So, I want to hear what's coming next. Whether Steve Gillmor will get his track. How these islands will interroperate. Etc. Etc.
- Robert Scoble
Cory You've got a good point.
- alison potvin
Dustin Sallings, author of TWITSpy, Steve Gillmor, Dave Winer, Evan Prodromeu - many of the people that were at BearHug Camp should be speaking. IMO they're the pioneers in this space. Then of course, FriendFeed, and Alex Payne from Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
I agree on David Recordon - I would suggest him, and perhaps Mullenweg. The blogging space will be entering real time shortly as well. I would suggest Alex Payne over Evan Williams though - Alex understand the technology much better. Evan is all business speak, and really doesn't understand what's going on underneath.
- Jesse Stay
Clay Shirky is a good choice.
- Jorge Carvalho
I would definitely love to be involved with this.
- drew olanoff
These guys are as "Real Time" as anything I've seen. http://www.esession.com/home...
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
So Robert, where can you point us to for date, location, and other updates? An Upcoming stub perhaps?
- Mark Krynsky
How about Andrew Rosenthal or any of the NT folks behind the new "Instant" op-eds: http://tinyurl.com/4uxytv launching Monday
- Perry Hewitt
zaw thet from 4info.net @zawthet
- Tim Connors
Gary Vaynerchuk from WineLibrary.TV.
- Travis Lusk
I can't be there; already committed for Microblogging Camp in Hamburg: http://www.mbc09.de/
- Evan Prodromou
I don't think you've explained your goals (or maybe even what "real time web" is) for everyone here to understand. Some of the suggestions make no sense (Gary V?) but I think it's cos not everyone here understands well enough what you're trying to organize
- Ben Metcalfe
For variety - Include more immersive experiences as a representation of the real time web (a la Second Life and WOW et al.) perhaps some of the MMORG folks. Elon Lee at Fourth Wall Productions is a good idea....
- Joshua-Michele Ross
Oh, and my initial comment is also "not the same old people". No disrespect to anyone in particular but the you could assemble most of those people and have them talk about anything to do with the internet right now -- does that mean they're the thought leaders in real-time web? BUT then I wonder who is? Maybe the thought leaders really are just the same herd of people, and it's just that they're smart enough to start jumping onto the next meme for them to lead. But I'd like to see new people too...
- Ben Metcalfe
Sounds like fun! Would be great to hear from one of the Gnip guys about how their infrastructure tech will make the web more real time.
- David Recordon
Alan Levy of Blogtalkradio.com :)
- Amy Domestico
Gaia Online folks - very interesting. From an asia perspective second life is a case study in what not to do. Also Tobin Lent from Punch Entertainment first mobile-online cross platform socializing network
- William Bao Bean
@scobleizer Mid January may be tough for me but would love to try to make it.
- Jason Goldberg
Not very sure what do you exactly mean by RT web, but if it is what I think of, I would suggest looking into some XMPP guys, some Adobe people, maybe Gnip also. I'd also suggest bringing tech guys and not biz cause even if this will impact biz it is imo a tech topic.
- Alex Popescu
Make sure you branch out from just the west coast / bay area crowd. There's lots of cool stuff happening in the rest of the world... Also, we'd be happy to have someone from HubSpot share some of the data from Twitter Grader and our State of the Twittersphere report.
- Mike Volpe
Does this event have an URL yet?
- Evan Prodromou
What is your favorite new company of 2008?
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Evernote probably
- Adi Rabinovich
Evernote was my first thought as well, but have a feeling that as a company, they were not 'born' in 2008, it's just the year they seemed to explode. Maybe largely due to their superb iPhone app???
- Patrick Jordan
Logical Awesome (creators of GitHub)
- Eric Florenzano
Gosh, I'm trying to think of 1st yr co's that are a hit.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I'm a big fan of Evernote, too, but I have notes going back to 2007 so I think that disqualifies them here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Ping.fm probabl
- Francisco Espinoza
great question. NextBus (older than 2008, but to me I started using heavily in 2008)
- anna sauce
"Sunnyvale, CA – Oct. 20, 2004 – EverNote Corporation today announced the release of EverNote 1.0 beta for Windows, an easy to use, yet powerful note-taking solution. EverNote gives users a single place for all types of notes and information and makes them instantly accessible at any time, in any place. "
- Ken Sheppardson
"Emeryville, California – August 10, 2000 – NextBus Information Systems, Inc... has successfully taken the frustration out of using public transportation. On August 10, 2000, San Francisco's half-million transit riders will be able to access real-time vehicle arrival information, not schedules, on their wireless devices."
- Ken Sheppardson
OK, OK... sorry... :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert, changed my mind. Totally slipped that my friend started his design firm and it rocks! Tribute Media @corey_smith.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I would have said TripIt, but I just checked and they launched at the end of 2007, so don't quite make it.
- John
Mr. Tweet... or tweetdeck? that's this year. FF is last year, right?
- anna sauce
One of my favorites would be blip.fm. I like being able to share my musical tastes one track at a time and having them broadcast over twitter / friendfeed and other services.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Nobody agrees with me about Logical Awesome and GitHub? EDIT: FWIW I agree ping.fm is pretty awesome too.
- Eric Florenzano
Social | Median, Peoplebrowsr, Google street view, Brightkite, new Facebook, star walk (iPhone app)
- Susan Beebe
Animoto! Their service is awesome
- Jay
12seconds.tv, oh yeah, Evernote.
- Ian May
Snapily.com - this startup has a unique technology, which was developed for 7 years and bringing something fresh and new to the this huge market of Photo Marchendising
- Yaron Orenstein
from twhirl
i.TV
- Jesse Stay
Evernote doesn't count, they've been around a while now and already had a good product before entering the cloud. I'll go with Tapulous. They make Twinkle and the Tap Tap rhythm game series on the iPhone. They've already set up downloadable tracks and licensed songs.
- Rodfather
I don't know how they make money, but I use the AirMe app for iPhone more than any other new company's product.
- Andrew
Already did this one! Socialmedian was the highest ranked independent co. With them purchased, I pick BackType.
- Louis Gray
definitely Tweetdeck, one guy working incredibly hard
- Patphelan
Nanosolar is my company of the year, even tho it was founded 2002, they got funding/released products this year, n they're real.
- Will Higgins™
Digsby?
- Aaron Myers
Meebo - but that may have been 2007 - vote up TweetDeck too.
- Hal
How about the GreaseMonkey guy(s)?
- Bryan R. Adams
@Hal - Meebo is a great company too, I think they were more '07. They keep getting better though, now with their introduction of Facebook and MySpace IM.
- Aaron Myers
Dropbox.
- Eric P
I'll second Eric Florenzano with github. It's changed my interactions with the world more than anything else and has done so in a way that could outlast the company.
- Dustin Sallings
DropBox
- Brad Nickel
I also vote for dropbox. Totally seamless and knowing I can revert back to any version of a document helps me sleep better.
- Dylan Parker
I like dropbox. My only complaint about them, and it is neglible is the size of uploads and total remote size. Other than that, very nice.
- Robert Miller
HP. I'm biased. No they aren't new. I don't care. shut up. I love you.
- Bwana ☠
Wordpress
- Jeremy Chone
I think people are missing the "new" part. I'd say Animoto, Boxee, Blip.fm and HelloTxt.
- Orli Yakuel
Semantinet, Boxee and Innovid.
- Dror Gill
ZocDoc.com - i think they are awesome and on track to be a household name.
- Adam Boalt
Tweetdeck
- Jason Goldberg
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