When I picked up my iPhone this morning, the salesman was trying fairly hard to get me to sign up for MobileMe but I kept on pushing him off, saying that I wanted to mess with the trial a little more before I committed. Very, very glad I did that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I use MobileMe and so far, no issues. knock-on-wood
- Rom Feria
Been using MobileMe since it was called iTools and free with very few issues ever. It keeps my contacts and my calendars and my mail settings synced between 3 Macs.
- Adam Turetzky
Is there a known set of circumstances in which this occurs, or are the circumstances fairly random?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
No reason, no idea why it happened? I understand it's bad news for you, and could be for others, but couldn't this be a random incident? Isn't it a little hasty to go telling everyone MobileMe is a disaster?
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
Thanks Robert. Signed up for MobileMe, but have yet to investigate. Looks like you saved me the trouble!
- Bill Sanders
Tim: lots of other people I trust are having troubles with it too. It could be a random incident, but I'd rather have my readers be very careful with this. I've never seen this behavior before. No idea why it happened and since it's taken me more than two hours of resynching with Google Calendar to try to get it back I'm not very likely to try it again. Uninstall.
- Robert Scoble
I gave MobileMe a rather rigorous testing for a week, and found it to be just one aggravating issue after the next. http://tinyurl.com/6lnzg6 if you care to read.
- Evan Sims
Is this just an Outlook problem? Or can it affect iCal too?
- John
John: I don't know. I'm using Mobile Me on a Windows Vista computer with Outlook 2007.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks. I just backed up my iCal just in case. Apple needs to get their sh!t together. First iPhone 2.0 and then of course the MobileMe disaster.
- John
Thank god, this is one of the few mishaps of MobileMe that didn't happen to me, yet. Woke up to deleted contacts on my iPhone one morning. Thank god, they were "only" deleted on the phone, so nothing was lost. But it just makes you remember: "When was the last backup?"
- Holger Eilhard
I don't like to rant about Apple, but don't they test this stuff. what about 2.0 firmware for iPod touch and iPhones that is really unstable with the appstore? I know they can't test every config, but atleast try to work out the bugs. Everyday I here of another mobileMe disasters.. I'm happy I still have old treo, which is buggy too, but at least it won't automatically delete my contacts and appointments for me...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
I don't have my calendar on MobileMe, but I know it screwed up my address book.
- Francine Hardaway
While there's probably a unique circumstance in which this happens, the fact it is possible at all is scary to say the least.
- Sam Law
I have found that redundacy is a good thing. Which is why I keep more then one calendar.
- Paul
from twhirl
Are there any free and/or open source products which fulfill the same features as MobileMe? Preferably open source so anyone can just up and install as required.
- Scott Jarkoff
Before making such proclamations, you might want to do a little homework. Did you even talk to MobileMe tech support? http://www.apple.com/support.... There might have been a simple fix had you checked. I've been using MobileMe since July 18th; I sync three Macs and my iPhone and haven't had any major issues. I'm adding an XP laptop next; I don't expect any problems with that either.
- Albert Willis
Albert: a simple fix? Google Calendar has been going for six hours recreating my calendar so far. This was a problem with Outlook. I have 8,400+ calendar entries. It's only recreated 2,400 of them so far. Sigh. Macs don't even have Outlook so, of course you haven't had problems yet. Hope nothing bad happens on your XP machine. I'd back up just in case. At least my calendar will be back tomorrow cause I had a backup.
- Robert Scoble
That is, there could have been something Apple could have done to restore your calendar entries, assuming you synced your calendars to MobileMe. That would have been worth a shot. Again, we don't know the culprit here, between Outlook, Vista, MobileMe and whatever else is installed on your machine. I've done enough tech support to know we don't have the complete story here.
- Albert Willis
Albert: no, once the calendar entries were deleted, you needed to move them over from somewhere else. There was no way in hell I was going to let it touch my calendars anymore after that. I know Google Calendar will work. My trust in this is shot.
- Robert Scoble
I know it's not as critical a failure as calendar but you should try the gallery...I struggled with using it and sharing it for a week before giving up and going back to flickr...
- Kamath (नमः)
I didn't have any problems with calendars on MobileMe, but it decided one morning to delete all of my contacts bar three. That was the point at which I decided I'd move back to using Exchange, which Just Works on the iPhone, and (via Entourage) on my Mac. And amazingly, I had people trying to tell me it wasn't Apple's fault, despite it being Apple technology, running Apple software, on an Apple machine!
- Ian Betteridge
people love to piss on apple these days, ain't that right? Exchange deletes calendars as well as google calendar. It just happens. Ask an exchange admin how much fun it is to run that b*tch ;)
- muzo
muzo: I dare you to come up with any Fortune 1,000 CTO who says that Exchange deleted a calendar like this with a recent version of Exchange.
- Robert Scoble
yeah, but from the user end it WORKS. get it? Exchange == most worthwhile product MS produces. Period. I'm going to bed.
- Andrew Feinberg
Andrew: right. And anyway, Apple is the beneficiary of more free good PR than any other tech company around.
- Robert Scoble
It's a version 1 Apple product - that means "early beta" in anyone else's language.
- Andrew Garrett
With every post I get happier that I did not waste my $100 on mobile fail.
- Bob Blunk
I'm incredibly sad to hear that this implementation is failing so badly. It's a utopian feature we all benefit from. If Robert ditches this and convinces other to, Apple will really miss out of good feedback from the community. Anyone found out if Apple responded to this major setback?
- Mark Aitken
Not worth the very limited utility given the fact that it won't sync up with Google Calendar, either. I got MobileMe through my brother's family plan, and still had to buy Spanning Sync to do that. And I have to keep the intermediary computer on (my home iMac) because it doesn't sync OTA. There's got to be something better than this...
- Jason Menayan
Had the initial trouble with MobleMe during the .Mac switch and have stopped using it - even though I paid good money for the service. On the flip side, I'm finding Live Mesh to be surprisingly more useful and it's a free "Tech Preview." Go figure.
- Paul Dain
As several others have done recently, I'm thinking of turning down the FF river of noise by eliminating FOAF posts. I know others are experiementing with this. What do you think? More or less cowbell?
I think FOAF is one of the best features of FF. If you turn them off, it's possible you may be sealing yourself into the echo chamber.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I tend to agree Rahsheen, which is why I'm asking what others think. I generally like FOAF, as I've discovered some great new "friends" that way. I may give it a try just to see how much it reduces the noise. I'm currently subscribed to about 200 people with about 300 subscribed to me. Seems to be a decent balance for now. I get lots of great stuff coming through my river of noise.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
+3 Rahsheen....who was a FOAF before he became a F
- Jason Menayan
+4 Rahsheen...I have gone from FOAF to F with many people and vice versa. I like it. You can always hide the ones you don't want to look at anymore.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
From what I can tell the more "active" friends you have the less FOAF posts you see so FOAF posts are basically filler though without FF knowledgable confirmation I am not sure.
- Brian Sullivan
-1 vote for this idea. FOAF is unique and should be enabled.
- Czar
I think of FOAF as a window into another world. For instance, you follow a bunch of tech people, but they may be following random people that have nothing to do with tech. They Like stuff, you see it, you have got a glimpse outside of your box. If you aren't seeing any FOAF, I think that means you are following people who are not Like'ing stuff
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I kinda enjoy FOAF posts. What most people have to say is pretty neat. Although stuff does tend to speed by before I get to them, due to all the other stuff happening.
- Arlan Koizumi
For 5 months I have left the foaf feature on, but it has become a struggle to keep with the core set of members I originally set out to follow. Turning it off, at least for a little while, has been a positive experience thus far.
- Mike Fruchter
FOAF is great, but when you start reaching double digits or more in followers, the river flows more ferociously.
- Mike Fruchter
Mike - my post on this topic was prompted by your post the other day (linked above). Thanks for the opinions and perspectives everyone. I've decided that I can deal with the river of noise for now and will not turn off FOAF. As many have commented above, FOAF is a great way to discover new friends and may be the real magic behind Friendfeed and this awesome evolving community of friends.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I concur with Michael P. Williams and I say leave it on. Isn't this the whole point of having a social conversation? One topic and a potpourri of thoughts? Yes, you may get the odd stray thoughts being fed into your stream, but the overall flow of the conversation makes up for that.
- Kevin Singarayar
FoaF is one of the more interesting features, but it's nice that you can choose to turn it off.
- Ernie Oporto
@K Welch: why not just hide almost everything from that one person? Say they're prolific posters for everything but Flickr: hide 'em on everything but Flickr. That way you filter their noise (mostly), but you still see the FOAF. Oh, and I love FOAF (but I'm low on the follows too).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The beauty is having the option to turn foaf on or off.
- Mike Fruchter
Without FOAF posts I wouldn't have read this.
- Benedikt Koehler
Me too @Benedikt Koehler - not sure I'd toggle that feature off.
- TDavid
I wouldn't turn it off either. Gives colour, even if it a little noisey.
- Roberto Bonini
I turned it off for a few users here who were noising up my ff-river with their like-whore-behavior. :). I think it is best to leave it on by default and only muting FOAF of the noisy ones.
- Marcel Weiß
it's a crowd sourced about.com -- you don't have to deal with the editorial overhead of about.com .. and still make $$
- david koblas
Wait, I thought it was supposed to be a clone of FriendFeed and couldn't believe how badly they screwed it up. Now it all makes sense! ;)
- Robert Seidman
I thought it was supposed to be a bakery? Now where can I get scones?
- Alex Power
No. It's a Twitter clone for people who need more than 140 characters to express themselves.
- Adewale Oshineye
The most interesting bit is that the front page says "Who needs a search engine? Ctrl+F". Is this really made by google? :)
- Andrew
I think Knol and Android will both be Google's failed productions. :)
- friendfeed
They're all just word-sharing sites. That space is way overcrowded.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
That's funny I didn't get that feeling. Knol seems a pretty simple way for researchers to distribute and "monetize" their work in ways which don't currently exist.
- Jim
It's more like Hubpages, Wikia and Squidoo than del.icio.us. You don't start off with a news article or blog post as a springboard.
- Jason Menayan
It's not unusual for Google to fail. Google Video. Android. Blogger. Lively. Many failures. Nice search engine though.
- Bret Treasure
@Bret What definition of failure are you using to generate that particular set of products?
- Adewale Oshineye
mmm... Android actually runs already on mobile platforms, at least I've seen it running on our Maemo, but... Google makes everything to fail its own kid :)
- A.T.
If you define sucess in terms of a business and financial sucess then most are failures as they don't generate (alot of) revenue. However, these are too broad. Youtube is clearly a success, yet Google are having trouble monitizing all that traffic. Google Video is a failure becuase Youtube got there first (same with Soapbox). Android is because Microsoft and Symbian got there first. Blogger because of Wordpress, Typepad, etc. Knol will fail becuase Wikipedia got there first and declared the games closed.
- Roberto Bonini
"Got there first" is not a solid argument. Tandy, Sinclair, Atari, Amiga "got there first", but it was IBM PC which then took the world by storm. (Just an open specification, but it made a lot of difference.)
- 9000
@Bret Let´s not forget Google Base, which apparently was Google´s vision for what web 2.0 has come to be (Flickr, YouTube, Facebook, Wikipedia, Yelp etc.). In fact, I´d state that Google´s weakness is to produce applications that require some social element in order to succeed. YouTube, for example, is mainly a social network around video and it totally owned Google Video.
- Mario Nogueira Ramos
Endured 5 months of herniated disc hell the first part of this year. Surgery was a dream come true. Hope it doesn't come to that for you.
- Jason Menayan
Refreshing to read a more personal account of recovering from professional failure like this one. Incidentally, I think of Boo.com as being the big dot-com bomb, not Pets.com.
- Jason Menayan
there's some bombs i wish would have survived because I enjoyed the service: Homegrocer, MyLackey, and especially Kozmo! I used to get deliveries at all hours while working at my own dotcom.
- Meghan
from Alert Thingy
This is a really great read and of particular interest since I worked at Petstore.com. The entire vertical was the leading domino of the Web 1.0 collapse. Granted I wasn't in a high profile position, but I thought it was a great learning experience.
- AJ Kohn
Frankly, Web 2.0 is starting to smell a lot like dot.com. Maybe it's just me. Hey, that sock puppet wasn't Dave Winer by any chance, was it?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I still have the sock puppet in it's original box, sortta reminder...
- Bryan Thatcher
from twhirl
"Marginal tax rates would then approach 70%, levels not seen since the 1970s and among the highest in the world. The after-tax return to work -- the take-home wage for more time or effort -- would be cut by more than 40%."
- bob
from Bookmarklet
This article is biased, unfair, and mostly inaccurate, as is to be expected from the WSJ editorial section. Specifically, why is it so bad to have Social Security on the highest marginal income when it's already on the marginal income of people making 80k? The rest is just standard "I hate taxes" boilerplate.
- Alex Power
i didnt read it that carefully, just wondered what people here thought about it - which parts do you think are inaccurate?
- bob
Just like Clintonomics (Rubinomics?) was a recipe for recession, and Bushonomics a recipe for sustained growth...
- Jim Norris
It seems unlikely that marginal rates will actually go to 70%. What exactly is the Social Security proposal though? To completely uncap it?
- Paul Buchheit
I think the proposal was to have a "donut" with no SS taxes between ~$100k and $250k.
- Jim Norris
Weird. What types of income would that apply to? (does it include interest income, dividends, etc?)
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: SS taxes apply only to earnings. The article does mention that the top federal rate for earnings, capital gains, dividends, etc. would go from 35% to 39.6%. The thing with SS taxes is that in theory you get it back when you retire. So uncapping SS taxes should also uncap SS checks.
- Gabe
Well, I only earn about $2/month, so I should be ok then :). I'm pretty sure my SS taxes are never coming back to me though.
- Paul Buchheit
SO WHATS THE PROBLEM... I really feel for those millionaires feeling the pinch at the pump my sympathies.
- Tate DA FF MVP
The GOP is really trotting out its old workhorses to try to beat Obama. This isn't the first time they relied on distortions and fear tactics.
- Jason Menayan
"This year, however, proponents of same-sex marriage have found encouragement in both the California Supreme Court decision and in a subsequent order by Gov. David A. Paterson of New York, instructing agencies in his state to recognize same-sex marriages performed legally elsewhere. The California court has also rebuffed several challenges to its May 15 decision, made by two conservative legal groups and by Republican attorneys general who fear that the California marriages will lead to legal challenges brought in their own states."
- Bret Taylor
The current UK administration defused the issue of same sex unions by the introduction of Civil Partnerships in 2005 linked to an across the board change of relevant laws to provide parity with married couples - with the exception of those with religiious objections (who should really know better) this has gone smoothly and been introduced across the UK. Its not called a marriage but has all the advantages (and responsibilities!) of the mixed sex varaint.
- Jican
The opposition should be pleased. Now that they're married, they'll be having less sex.
- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
our friends Bob and Michael get married in SF on August 20th.
- Todd Mundt
Is that Bruce Willis in the second picture? j/k
- Nesta Campbell
It makes me very happy to see gay folks entering the light in California. I'm also very amused at how frustrating it must be to the Right. Well, I guess in a few years one of us will be proven right. Either a small percentage of the population of California will be happily married and gay or the country will lay in smouldering ruins and people will be having sex with box turtles.
- Internet's Tad
Tad: I feel a box turtle urge coming on! Hah.
- Robert Scoble
@Tad - I had box turtles as pets when I was kid. Never considered that activity with them though...
- Hutch Carpenter
"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right. Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife." - Rick Santorum (Idiot) ex-Senator from Virginia
- Internet's Tad
Dude in the pic with "Bruce Willis" is freakin HYOOOGE! I wonder how many opponents of gay marriage have been pwned by his hand...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Whoa, don't push Santorum on us Virginians! hehe
- jcunwired
Oh crap - sorry to pollute Virginia with Santorum! Oops. I wouldn't wish that on anyone...
- Internet's Tad
I hope it "sticks". My boyfriend and I are waiting until after November. To have the rug pulled from under us after enjoying a few months of wedded bliss would be too much for the heart to bear.
- Jason Menayan
Congrats to all the new couples, with wishes for many happy years.
- Chris Baskind
In my home town in Austria, we had a case of a black man and a white woman wanting to marry, they ended up being refused by the marriage registrar. Of course, we also haven't got gay marriage legalized here. The US have problems, but in some cases, law is way more progressive than in Europe.
- sebmos
@Phil: LOL! This has certainly been a momentous (and good) development. But it would be nice to see these kinds of decisions made through the legislative process. The fact that this decided in the courts will make the outcome more contentious than it would have been had the population been forced to have a legitimate conversation about the issue. The more bigoted corners of our society now have a victim card to play - and play it they shall...
- Forrest Cox
@Forrest: The genius of our system of government lies in its checks and balances. In particular, an unfettered democracy would be subject to the problem of the "tyranny of the majority". Fortunately this is offset by our Constitution and our courts, whose job is to ensure that individual rights are not trampled on, no matter how unpopular that individual may be, for whatever reason. Any bigots playing the victim card are ignorant of basic civics.
- Ruchira S. Datta
@Ruchira I agree. The Cali court is playing exactly its Constitutional role, and it's essentially a conservative and Federalist approach to reconciling changing societal mores and the demands of a minority. As I've commented elsewhere, we are winning this argument, and we're doing it state by state, rather than through a Federal fiat, which simply is not feasible at this time. All good things...
- Rick Powell
Yeah, I really hated having the freedom to know about my own genes. I look forward to California helpfully eliminating those other pesky freedoms :)
- Paul Buchheit
Hmm, lots of interesting debates and challenges ahead in this realm. So CA wants to be sure patient's doctor ordered the genetic testing, but only a few months ago CA also (only briefly) wanted to force doctors to betray patient confidentiality with insurers. This is a concern b/c as the NYTimes pointed out a few weeks ago, across much of the US insurers are refusing coverage for normal people more and more (ex in article included women who had delivered via c-section, a not uncommon practice).
- Casey
Sprague, if you still own all genetic information derived from the saliva sample, what are you giving up by letting them keep your spit?
- Mark Trapp
While I would be really interested in the insight genetic testing could provide, until some of the privacy pieces get ironed out (as well as some meaningful changes in US healthcare/insurance dynamics), I can't potentially risk becoming uninsurable (on an absolute basis) based on probabilities from such information. [I run my own business and the independent insurance market is enough of a &$*# as it is.] This is unfortunate, would be interesting and helpful to see my results.
- Casey
I'm not seeing the nefarious intent here. 1) You can produce more spit, so it's not like they are cornering the market on ways to get your genetic content, 2) They are giving up their rights to any useful information derived from the spit (the genetic information) and transferring ownership back to you. Generally a clause like this is to prevent a logistics nightmare: it gives them the right to dispose of the spit rather than having to keep it around just in case you want it back.
- Mark Trapp
Is there some other use for the spit that you're waiving by agreeing to that clause I'm not seeing? The HIPAA issues I'm in full agreement on. But laws are always a few steps behind progress.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, extreme hypothetical (and hopefully one NONE of us would ever face), but looking at Sec. 9 of TOS (+ about 2/3 down in privacy pol), ultimately your sample and info could be passed to law enforcement without notice to you (depends on nature of order). Like I said, hopefully something that would never be of concern to this krewe...
- Casey
Good find, Casey. That's something that would definitely give me pause.
- Mark Trapp
Um <cough>, note to self, no steak knives at dinner parties with Mark... j/k
- Casey
Until GINA gets some serious teeth, these companies will never get my money or my cheek cells.
- Jason Menayan
Um, Sprague, why is it not sufficient for you to just not participate in 23andme? Is there some reason you want to prevent others from making their own decisions?
- Noam Shazeer
No, I'd like to, but it's too far away for now. I just saw it on another (private) feed and reshared it so that Ana could see what we're talking about.
- Paul Buchheit
Never got to bora bora but did go to moorea. Stunning but ... I'll take kauai any day.
- AJ Kohn
We spent part of our honeymoon there back in 2001. Beautiful place.
- Mike Doeff
wow... that looks spectacular. Category 7. I don't think I will ever have enough starwood points for that :)
- Frankie Warren
Bora Bora is beautiful, but built entirely for tourists. I'd also take Kauai over it any day.
- Tudor Bosman
(Alright, so we need to keep Kauai a secret!) Don't go it's awful! Roosters keep you up all night.
- AJ Kohn
True. If you leave the house at night in Kauai, you'll be attacked by armies of wild chickens.
- Tudor Bosman
And also, there are cane spiders, which could attain a legspan of about 10 inches, and (according to Wikipedia) "they are able to travel extremely fast, and walk on walls and even on ceilings. They also tend to exhibit a "cling" reflex if picked up, making them difficult to shake off and much more likely to bite." Don't go to Kauai!
- Tudor Bosman
I can't imagine that anything could top the Galapagos Islands. We went there on our honeymoon in 2005. Clare did get stung by jellyfish twice though, and a baby sea-lion sniffed her foot. So on second thought , maybe you shouldn't go.
- Robert Felty
We stayed at the Intercontinental on Bora Bora for New Years 2005. Very similar to the photos above with the huts over the water. It was beautiful. Great for water sports, the scuba was wonderful! Other than that though its just Luais and laying on the beach. And the food is horribly expensive and not that great. The island is small so you can go to local restaurants with better food,...
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- Rachel Lea Fox
Oh, and Kauai is the wettest place on Earth. So why go to Kauai?!
- AJ Kohn
@seman :WOW! these are awesome! Can I share them with my friends?
- تنهاترین انجل
Bora Bora is heaven ... simply heaven! Moorea was great too ... rented bikes, a camera, my girlfriend, alcohol, and partying with the natives on the beach ...
- Allen Hurff
How much should you expect to spend to see this place?
- seman
Here's when it literally doesn't pay being a Geek.
- Parth Awasthi
@Allen Hurff: lol. it sounds like you rented bikes and a camera and also rented your girlfriend, alcohol, and the partying with the natives. :D
- edythe
My brother & sister-in-law stayed there 2 years ago for their honeymoon. They absolutely loved it.
- Jason Menayan
Tahiti is one of my favorite places. Went for my honeymoon in 00' and then back again before my son was born in 03'- we're planning a trip for 09' hopefully!
- Erin @queenofspain
I gave it a try and it wrecked havoc on my google reader. I think it should be a little more explicit that its going to add a bunch feeds to your google reader, not just to feedly itself. I went back to the homepage and saw the blurb about integration, but as a user it still caught me off guard... other than that the site looks very professional. you can tell you guys spent a lot of time working on this.
- Frankie Warren
@frankie yes. we have a warning in the first run page. Will update the build tomorrow to make it more explicit. We are also working on an automated undo procedure (this is the motivation behind the z.feedly.seeded). In the meantime, here is a link to a manual procedure: http://getsatisfaction.com/feedly...
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Thanks for the quick response. Getsatisfaction.com doesn't seem to be working for me so I'll check again in the morning.
- Frankie Warren
Feedly is amazing. I love the highlighting/commenting and Tweeting features.
- Jason Menayan
Bon appetit! If you know of any good Persian options, please share. Our family went to one on Champs Elysees about 10 years ago and we were sorely disappointed.
- Jason Menayan
Ralph, go there without even thinking about any other alternatives, it is just fantastic. You can tell by how packed it is with Lebanese people.
- Loic Le Meur
To crush the enemy. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of the women.
- Internet's Tad
Direct quote from a childhood friend I reconnected with via Facebook: "If you know any smart, tall straight men in DC, send them my way! (Isn't that what these social networking sites are for?? :)"
- Jason Menayan
I think what separates "social media" from phone, IM and TV/in-person conversation is the time delay/disconnected nature of it. You put something out there and people can respond to it immediately, in a few minutes, hours, days, weeks or even years. That conversation can stay going indefinitely and there's no limit in how many people can participate in it or how many tangents it can spawn. You get to make more connections with more people and more interactions in general than in other mediums.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Interesting that Friendfeed conversations bring us Inspiration. Reminds me of Alexander's post"Social Media is timely, get over it", "we need inspiration", yes social media interactions can bring us inspiration even it's timely.
- K.D.
Good observation! Internet may create sth new to "replicate" TV's social function/effect.
- K.D.
Trust the people who did none of things alluded to in this video... even thought they had the full control of all houses from 1992 to 1994 and did nothing. Trust the GOVERNMENT, because they make promises it can't keep.
- Noah David Simon
I love the fact that the democrats allude that THEY are the ones who will respect the constitution. Neither major party has in the past, nor will they start any time soon.
- Dave Roth
I'd be voting Republican (if I were a US citizen).
- Robin Cannon
from twhirl
I'm voting Republican, because, like, liberalz sukk! *pouts, folds arms and stamps foot*
- Jason Menayan
I notice the postings kicking into simplistic bipolar mental models. If Republican stood for dog food and Democrat stood for cat food, which one would you be eating for breakfast tomorrow morning?
- Kit Krash
this is the kind of patronizing democrat malaise that plagues the valley.
- Kingsley Joseph
from twhirl
yea but if your gung ho on either camp, I know a psychological strategy that will be having you eat either dog food or cat food by tomorrow morning. It's based on the principles of Aristotelian logic, consistency and memetic trojan horses.
- Kit Krash
surely FriendFeed is a service where people won't feel obligated to read every single item that comes through the pipe - right? My goodness, something's got to convince these people to reconsider their sense of obligation to read every single item in RSS, twitter, etc!
no, people won't feel obligated. but they will feel like they're "missing" something. which is why I think ff needs a client that will let people scan what's read & what's not.
- Trent Olson
Yes, you're correct. There's no obligation to go back, back, back through every page. I do go back a few pages, but it's not like RSS. Also... if you're reading every Tweet, you're certifiably nuts.
- Louis Gray
though i guess GReader lets you do that, but my GReader is gathering dust like crazy lately...honestly, a mix of ff & Snackr is doing me just fine
- Trent Olson
It'd be useful to mark items as read or seen, but how to handle it when they keep popping back to the top as people like and comment?
- Tom Landini
@Tom: agreed. I'd like an option to save for later (like GReader's star or something). Then, if you've starred it for later, it won't pop up to the top at all, 'cause you'll go back to it
- Trent Olson
Thanks, Tom, I've seen it too...I tend to use ff in a prism window, so greasemonkey scripts don't work yet...
- Trent Olson
well, I only joined twitter post some pownce issues, I responded to every post, only to those I could answer, or though worth answering.
- clarke thomas
I never read everything just the things that catch my eye or interest me. Otherwise all I would do is read
- BCK
from twhirl
I enjoy not having to read everything on FF and still feel like I'm keeping up, while on GReader I do feel "obligated" to read every item because it counts and keeps track of what I have and haven't read.
- Alan Cheslow
I'm guessing that the tools will appear to selectively filter what's coming through and subscribe to the conversations you're interested in. I'm trying to get my head around the whole thing at the minute and I plan on developing a few such tools.
- Anthony Burns
With FF, twitter etc I have become very good at scanning and quickly picking out stuff I want to read.
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
It would at least be helpful if there was a way to know when you've passed all the new stuff and are on old stuff again. With comments moving stuff to the top again, it's hard to know sometimes what's new.
- Greg Beck
collapsed comment set are those which you've already seen? disadvantages to this also. having a system that does not give you feedback around what you haven't seen or done should help users avoid the guilt of "incomplete" tasks. this is one of my favorite features of friendfeed - it promotes wading in and out of the stream
- rob zand
I want to read every item that has five or more Likes but I can't do that.
- Robert Scoble
I think I really use FF as more of a chat room... with topic of conversation always popping up.
- Stefan Hayden
I pretty much end up reading what's above the fold and then skim the rest of the page
- dbcohen
I want the ability to read all of certain people and then by popularity (number of likes) as Scoble suggested. I think that flexibility in deciding what is important individually would be super.
- Joel Gray
There is a big difference between FriendFeed and Google Reader: Google Reader shows the unread items, and often it has stuff I just can't miss. FriendFeed is complementary - it's no must-have, and it doesn't enable me to read everything (as it doesn't show me what I haven't read).
- sebmos
Too much feeding will make you fat. :)
- Jason Menayan
I would like the ability to track conversations by my reading behavior. My information need changes with daytime, weekday and location. I am thinkg a learning iPhone-App; like a littleamart assistant.
- Andre
from twhirl
I'm still trying to not feel obligated to read everything on FriendFeed. At the moment, I keep reading page after page until I see something I've read before or feel like I'm getting déjà vu...
- Tony Ruscoe
1) rank unread items by likes; 2) rank unread items that are most relevant to me by likes; 3) rank unread items by comments; 4) rank unread items that are most relevant to me by comments
- Sean McBride
I only read whatever is on the first page. Ok.. I read every single item on the first page, so as to keep up with all of you guys!
- Winston Teo
Reader makes me guilty with its mass of unread items. It fairly forces me to scan items and hit Mark All As Read a few times. FF is more relaxing Reading. And yeah, ranking needs to visually separate old and new items.
- Roberto Bonini
It will be interesting to see how we "solve" the ephemeral nature of this info overload. Whoever can reliably do this would be my hero.
- Ben Vaughan
from twhirl
I would like to see on friendfeed a feature to rate the items you get aggregated from your friends and that the system would learn from that and customize the content more and more as you continue to rate the items. I guess the logic to get that right might be rather complex though. Facebook has something like that on their News Feed, but I think it is more based on the source/type of content, not on the content itself.
- Davide D'Incau
I want to see EVERY SINGLE ITEM that comes in from most of my feeds (comics, friends blogs, etc). It's things like Twitter, flickr, and news feeds that I don't need to read everything from.
- xero
bottled water is sometimes just imported tap water from a faraway town though!
- Prolific Programmer
bottled is worse because it comes in a plastic bottle which winds up in the Ocean at some point. Tap water and a glass people.
- Adam Turetzky
from twhirl
Not only is bottled water increasing plastic usage, there's also it being transported on trucks or trains.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
depends on the location, ditto hdiwan
- clarke thomas
Bottled water is a waste of resources. Sorry.
- Morton Fox
30 cl bottles are the proof of that Morton, you pay 4 times, for 1 lit. and there's so much plastic to recycle... thus you actually buy plastic
- directeur
We use a 2 gal. Brita filter and Dallas Municipal Tap. I fill a 1 liter nalgene bottle every morning and take it to work. (I take it to church, too, but I don't take it into the sanctuary) I buy bottled water when I have no other choice.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
I trust the tap water, since I already trust many things too...
- directeur
I suppose I might replace my nalgene bottle if the BPA scare pans out. sheesh
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
Tap water is unsafe in our city that is why there is a lot of "water refilling stations" within the metropolis. These stations have multi-stage water treatment facilities that produce bottled water and are sold in containers ranging from 500ml up to 5 gallons. You can bring your own container and they will fill it up after they have cleaned it and deemed it hygienic.
- Hubert Lotilla
Depends but basically identical. I'm cheap so I prefer tap.
- Jason Menayan
I'm fortunate enough to live in a first world country where tap water is safe to drink. The amount of water being shipped around first world countries in little bottles, when a child dies every 15 to 25 seconds (depending which stat you read) due to a lack of access to clean safe water is disgusting.
- Mat
Mat, interesting comment. Tap water is completely safe and drinkable here in Australia, but when I was last in the Valley, the tap water in Atherton was awful to the point I had no choice other than to drink bottled water. I guess some places are different to others
- Duncan Riley
in 3rd Wrld countries it's the only option, but not always safe. In US no need, but I like mineral water, not plain.
- clarke thomas
Duncan, crappy tap water here is sometimes blamed on a conspiracy by Brita, the water filter owned by Clorox. :)
- Jason Menayan
yet another selling point for FriendFeed and Twitter: info updates keep you from standing in line for a month and two days needlessly
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Marco: surprisingly, we have been able to do that for years without FF and Twitter. I like to call it "doing something else."
- Wade Dorrell
Apple has trained its user-base well. They'll line up even for things that aren't there.
- Morton Fox
I'm blogging and FriendFeeding for next to nothing. Now doing videos? No, I wanna be paid. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm about to start blogging for nothing...wait...we can get paid for this stuff? JohnTyra.com
- John Tyra
Companies are wary of paying for something with unpredictable outcomes. And the market seems to be still in its nascency so a price-point hasn't been solidified yet.
- Jason Menayan
I'm sick of blogging for free -- other than when it's for me. Otherwise, as long as my content isn't reused commercially or otherwise without respecting my CC license.
- Andy Sternberg
I was blogging in the end of 90's about Jazz, that was a pleasure for me! I blogged about coding and dev things too, but hey... I wasn't paid and I need to eat :)
- directeur
I already do. Went from six figs in I.T. to under minimum wage in the past 13 months. Of course, everyone's definition of "next to nothing" probably differs. So does their def of "success" and "happiness" ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
Guess I should of said Would you blog for next to nothing for a COMPANY!
- Dave Peck
That's why passion is important. Blogging is creating opportunity for me, leading to revenue generating gigs. I'm not making any money blogging. For me, blogging is a tool, an element of a larger effort.
- Liana Lehua
from fftogo
@Britney That's a completely different question IMO - the answer to your first question is yes, and no to the second
- acedanger
@acedanger: That was my point and what my blog post was about. But wow this conversation is amazing
- Dave Peck
Depends on what "for a company" means. I blog about products I am impressed with and want others to try. Don't get paid by the companies. BUT I would love to have a job where I was the evangelist (or whatever other title you want to put on it) for pay.
- Kathy Jacobs
Clarifying: I would NOT blog for a startup for nothing on thier site. They want to link to what I write about them on my blog, fine. They want me to write content for thier site: Pay me.
- Kathy Jacobs
No, I wouldn't blog for a company for nothing or next to nothing. Standard freelancing rates should apply. I've been blogging for free (no ads) since 2004 on my personal site, which is a totally different monster.
- Christine Cavalier