I think I've discovered nearly two albums worth of forgotten tunes. Good that I have these recordings: I'm too much of a space to remember this stuff... As I recall--this song was abandoned because it seemed too introspective to work live
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Circa 1998. Played on the, then new, Godin Multiac. Recorded on a Roland VS-880, R-70 Drum Machine and an Alesis S-4+ Quadrasynth.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I used to be more conscientious in logging in my blog. I can tell you it's really useful and most of the time these are the posts that constantly get Google searches. An alternative is to use a personal wiki.
- Chu Yeow
from iPhone
Post is friends-only I guess. I cannot view it.
- Ashwin Nanjappa
Wiki, blogs, docs. Whatever works --> be agile. So long as it's searchable :)
- Jason
from iPhone
I keep all my engineering findings in my Google Notebook, and sometimes I replicate some stuff in my blog. The stuff that I found most useful in keeping a log of are Getting Started instructions of these and that, which I will use once in a blue moon, but ever so helpful when the instructions are somewhere.
- Winston Teo
Jason: Thanks, can see it now. I keep a GDoc for this kind of stuff, but it is not well updated though.
- Ashwin Nanjappa
Deepak: Are those markdown log pages viewable somewhere? I only get to see the underlying HTML/MD code at github.
- Ashwin Nanjappa
Ashwin : Download the repository and view the log.html on local machine for now. If you dont have Git, you can find a download button on top.
- Deepak Jois
Me too--but is that enough by itself to make you buy a ticket and drive across town to attend a show? Or does it take something more?
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Knowing the band on a somewhat personal level. Having a connection with the group. Good music alone doesns't do it for me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
It's gotta be the quality of the show for me, and of course music comes into that but when you have Kiss-esque glitter cannons and zip wires going off, then it'd probably tempt me!
- Tom Bon Scott
@Rahsheen & Tom--Now we're getting somewhere: A personal connection and/or visual elements will get you out of the house. Anything else?
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
What gets you to drive 5 hours and stay in a hotel, as many do for the DMB or Phish? What about crowds that I see in videos for the Pat Metheny Group, Or Chik Corea's band?
- Neil Alexander
If the band actually truly wants to be playing me their music, and is not just doing it for the money, then they're worth my attention. But really, if I've heard good things about a band and they're playing locally, then I'll go.
- Gus Cuddy
from BuddyFeed
@Neil. People go because they feel they MUST go. Maybe aligning a show with a cultural event (Burning Man, a festivals, a dance event...) Older acts (Pat Metheny & Chick) have been around long enough to attract people form a nostalgic stand-point, as well as from an artistic one.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Good music, performers that I want to see, a good venue with good equipment/sound/acoustics. I'm spoiled being here in Los Angeles.
- Derrick
Agreed. But how do you get people to feel that way about something they're unfamiliar with? Word of mouth works well (if people do that. My demographic is 40 and up - less likely), as does playing in far away places for no money sleeping in a van. Trying to get with the former. I agree with the cultural event idea.
- Neil Alexander
Also been trying to gleen an opening slot; or get a festival promoter to "take a chance", thinking that if we can actually get in front of a large number of people that will help.
- Neil Alexander
The ethereal connection... the idea that the same air is being breathed by someone you admire on such a deep level. That the same sound waves they create are the same ones that pound your chest. That chance to be able to have them hear you sing along or cheer means more to them than they let on. It's a shared experience, a moment of win. :)
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
It must happen, as new "indie" artists break in all the time. So do new jazz artists. The connections are made, and somewhat quickly (?). Though there is the story of the "10 year overnight success".
- Neil Alexander
@Josh--check-out Neil's music: He's a freakishly great jazz/fusion keyboard player on the east coast. We have the challenge trying to fill seats in concerts, yet, despite our tireless promo, networking and constant musical output, we still find ourselves occasionally playing to an indifferent rooms. We're trying to get to the core of why people do or don't attend a show.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Are all you cats in CA? 'cause it's late here in NY and I gotta get some sleep. But this is happenin', special thanks to @Rob.
- Neil Alexander
Very little. I've gone because the ticket was a birthday present, because admission was free at a city festival, because it was MC Hammer, because I was invited to go to a Mannheim Steamroller concert, because Doc Severinsen was leading at a Pops, and because it was Prince (in his notPrince days). I think that's all of my concerts.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Rob- absolutely. it's a little different because any admiration is immediate/brand new but yes I have been blown away by opening acts before. Moke opened for King's X the first time I saw them and I felt like I connected with them and bought their CDs right then and there.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
FYI, I can only get 8 people to a show - but they make noise (re: applause) like 20. So people like what we're doing; It's just not translating into more people.
- Neil Alexander
Music is almost always better live (unless the band sucks, obviously). There's something about the energy and atmosphere of a live performance.
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
The common theme emerging from this thread for me is what I had already suspected: The music is only a portion of the experience people are looking for from a concert. Somehow, this experience needs to be clearly communicated so that others will want to come and be a part--participate in it. Writing great music and performing it brilliantly is not quite enough all by itself.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
The music is still the most important thing, though, I think. I mean, you don't have to have massive theatrics like KISS, or on a smaller scale, Of Montreal. A lot of times I prefer the shows where the bands just play and focus on the music. The thing that's important to me with small bands is personability - if I liked the show, I want to come to your merch table and meet you after. If...
more...
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Sweet! I wish we could get together an jam easily. (Neil, I am a drummer turned bassist and am a midi/computer music enthusiast and love to write and play music). I was already trying to work up the nerve to collaborate digtally with Rob... now I am even more motivated. :)
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I will say that the shows that stick my memory the most are the ones that had the best banter/connection with the crowd. Inara George of The Bird and the Bee and Neko Case are fantastic at this.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Thanks Jandy--that's valuable feedback. For a long time, I would play a gig, strike my gear and leave. At a certain point, I forced myself to get in the habit of approaching people in the audience: walk up to their table and thank them one-by-one. This has made a big difference from my perspective: I now see many more familiar faces at my shows.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I don't need motivation. I go to shows because they are happening at all (it's almost a weekly event for me). That said, I greatly prefer small venues where the bands are likely to hang out after the show rather than huge, giant arena acts.
- Rob Haas
from iPhone
Jandy - I always talk to folk at my shows; sometimes I don't get around to talking to everyone because I lose myself in it. I always hang out afterwords, much to the chagrin of the venue, who want to me pack up and leave. :)
- Neil Alexander
@josh - this might be a good excuse to try eSession; I"m already on indaba, but my computer's too slow.
- Neil Alexander
Ooh, I forgot about Weird Al at King's Island! Three motivations: Weird Al, friends, amusement park!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I REALLY got to go to bed. Night all, and MANY thanks. I'll check the feed in the morning.
- Neil Alexander
Real-time internet collaboration is something I'm watching pretty closely. Josh--let's do it!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
esession and indaba. Never heard of either, but will check them out. I've been more of a "here's the wav files for you to import into your DAW" kind of guy, unless I can get the same software as the other person.
- Josh Haley
Real time would be tricky, no? But hey, If you know something I don't... ;)
- Josh Haley
Neil, that's the way to do it! I'm pretty sure I've been kicked out with the band from venues wanting to close a time or two. ;) And Rob, yeah, a LOT of the shows I go to are because I saw the band opening for someone else earlier and hung out and chatted with them. Having talked to them makes me much more likely to seek them out again. Robert, I'm pretty much in your boat. When I have...
more...
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Josh--Indaba & eSession are browser-based DAW-type service--I think there is a small fee to use them: Looks interesting.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Exactly. I only really go to the huge acts (like Tool a couple days ago) because a bunch of friends are going. By their popular nature, the show is just too big and impersonal for me.
- Rob Haas
from iPhone
Thank you everyone: I really appreciate all of you taking the time to participate in this thread.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
A lot of times someone I know that is in the band has asked me to come to a show, some times I :"find a band" on the internet and if it turns out that they are local (inside of like 60 miles) I'll try and see them live at least once.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I have one that sat in a snow drift for months. Miraculously, it almost sort of boots up now. I really should just recycle it, but I can't help but think there is some kind of use for it.
- LogEx
OMG this is going to give me a nightmare! That sucks big time April.
- BEX
on the bright side... you get to get a new 3GS :)
- Bindu Reddy
if only the touchscreen is cracked...$60 gets you a replacement. if the display was damaged as well, then the replacement is approx $150-175. (DIY)
- Carlos Ayala
It's grotesquely beautiful, in a way.
- Josh Haley
Oh dear, looks like you *need* to order a 3gS.... :-)
- Mark Hendy
Oh dear, quite the opposite. It's time to upgrade to a non iphone glass slab. Get a real phone, where they can afford buttons and functions for when you're not online :-)
- Richard A.
I had this happen to me less than two weeks after I got my first one (about a year ago) and had to go buy a new one. I wish I had known about the $60 touchscreen replacement option Carlos mentions above. Not one told me that then. It is all the more reason to get a good case.
- Ragani Harris
Oh, no! My phone looked like that earlier this year. I eventually found a place that replaced the screen for about $140 in 5 minutes. Cheaper than going to Apple!
- Bryan Person
I've seen a couple of those in person. It's one reason I used to disparage the iPhone so much; my HTC phones bounced quite a bit before they lost functionality. The iPhone wins in that the cracked/shattered screen still knows where you're pressing, whereas all of my non-phone touchscreen devices were useless with even a small crack in the corner. I bought a case for my second-hand iPhone right away, and it's bounced just fine several times.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
“If you observe a really happy man you will find him building a boat, writing a symphony, educating his son, or looking for dinosaur eggs in the Gobi Desert.” - Australian psychiatrist W. Béran Wolfe