"I will probably get dugg down for this and I point out that I am not trying to change your mind. As with most Americans you perceive only authoritarian socialism. In Europe and elsewhere there is an awareness of non-authoritarian socialism. Historically the socialist internationals were battle grounds between the marxists and the the anarchists and syndicalists. What? Libertarian socialists? Yes, that's right. They existed, they still exist. The world is not black and white. Capitalism, the organisation of society according to needs of capital (ownership, property, etc). Socialism, the organisation of society according to societal needs - the thing about that is that anyone who wants to organise society differently, including the greens are, by definition socialists. Oh, and if you are all such fired up, gung-ho capitalists what are you doing handing so much power to monopolies, oligopolies, advertisers and lobbyists? Just asking. Now digg me down." - jayess