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Jay Rosen
I teach journalism at NYU, write the blog PressThink, direct NewAssignment.Net, and try to grok new media. I don't do lifecasting but mindcasting on Twitter.
My error: I screwed up the chronology. @paulcarr's manly reply was to an exchange @Suw and Paul were having on Twitter re: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
On the night the Berlin Wall fell I recall thinking how wrong I was to mentally classify the captive nations of Europe as "Soviet Sphere."
Good critique of @paulcarr's "debunker's porn" post by @Suw here: http://charman-anderson.com/2009...
Paul Carr is going contrarian on citizen journalism's ass. Jerks with cell phones and Twitter accounts appall him http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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I thought this was a weak, weak article. He conveniently neglected to mention that people will cell phones gave us this video capturing a murder in a chicago schoolyard http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp... and this video of a BART police officer shooting a man in the back: http://www.youtube.com/watch.... Weak, weak. He then goes on...
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- j1m
I'd call it "debunker porn." And yes, I'm appalled at how weak it is.
- Jay Rosen
debunker porn, huh? :) Great coinage
- j1m
Yes, I really like that term. Contrarianism, like being "meta", is often used as a cheap way of faking depth without doing any actual work.
- Ruchira S. Datta
@davewiner Paul Carr's piece fits the genre "debunker's porn." No build-up, just pop the social media balloon. As with http://www.newsweek.com/id...
Thanks, @chuckwelch Demands of the French journalists union in English http://chuckwelch.com/2009... I guess I need someone French to explain it all.
@howardweaver And you find those filtering-the-live-web issues, which are real, framed for our consideration in Paul Carr's post? I don't.
@howardowens "Resolved: social media, CitJ and new technology are an unalloyed good, a savior" is a debate worth having? In 5th grade, maybe
via @fadingtoblack I don't get this list of "demands" from the French journalists union http://www.sfnblog.com/employm... Can someone who reads French help?
@howardweaver I don't get what you want. Jerks with cell phones will Tweet wrong or voyeuristic stuff because they can. True. Therefore...?
Uh, @gstephanopoulos? When you have the RNC and DNC chairman on to talk over each other the morning after health care passes, you've failed.
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I don't find the "you're ga ga, I'm de-illusioned" style of argument very persuasive, @ShilpikaDas I think it's cheap.
@longcreative The official reason NYU was excluded from #news21 is that we are a department, not a school of journalism. And Harvard? Well--
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Dog is digging deeper....
- frankiecarl
Anyone at #news21 care that it arrogantly and arbitrarily excludes NYU, as if we have nothing to contribute to innovation and collaboration?
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The terrier is on the trail!
- frankiecarl
@AAdamGlenn Sure, collaboration would be of interest if NYU becomes a formal part of #News21 and shares in the distribution of funds.
Ahh, the terrier has found the bone.
- frankiecarl
@longcreative No. I'm saying the #news21 "club" is illegit on its face. NYU is excluded for not being a school, but Harvard has no school.
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@JonHenke Health care policy = culture war<--- Huh? "When do we go to DC with the pitchforks?" THAT's culture war http://twitter.com/ctsa...
The Washington Post ombud keeps writing this column. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... When will it drawn on him? The savvy don't care.
Brilliantly done, New York Times interactive team. The Berlin Wall: 20 Years Later http://www.nytimes.com/interac...
@AAdamGlenn has taught at NYU (and Columbia, I believe.) Maybe he can speak to how appropriate it was to keep NYU out of #news21.
@longcreative I have no insight into the bizarre calculations that went into the #news21 exclusion derby. Got a URL for Harvard's J-school?
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