Liar? I mistakenly recalled him wearing a wig. In fact, he was wearing a do-rag, wore a long earring, sunglasses, spoke in fake ghetto slang, and called himself "TechNigga." I apologize that my recollection of his portrayal of black people was cloudy. As for blackface, it was figurative.
Loren Feldman is an extreme racist. Unbelievable that any media company would associate themselves with him. \
- michaeledwards
you know what's weird, Lynne, I remember him wearing a wig AND blackface. Okay, maybe we're both dreaming, or maybe it got edited out early on. Odd though. I thought I remembered a 'ghetto blaster' too. Maybe a different 1938 video?
- jeneane sessum
I immediately assumed you meant blackface figuratively, but I guess we have to spell this out for some people :-\
- Liz
I'm not going to defend Loren's video or focus on the inaccuracy in the NPR piece, but I think the "I am not the company I work for" is a cop-out. I work for a newspaper and anything I say in public (and I've spoken on NPR as well) reflects on my employer. If I say something that doesn't reflect the views or standards of my company, I would definitely be held responsible. ESPECIALLY if my employer is mentioned in the piece.
- Omar Gallaga
@Omar Gallaga -- your point is well taken. @Liz Burr -- right. modern day blackface doesn't have to be literal. @jeneane sessum -- there was a video of that nature in my memory bank as well, but i was mistaken in my recollection on this interview in question. i have no qualms about apologizing for mentioning a wig when there wasn't one. i could see how that could be taken as a falsehood...
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- Lynne d Johnson
I think it was in that video, right where the 1938 intro grey-screen pops up. If not, there is or was another one. Maybe we're BOTH remembering a different video. But I saw it, and he had reason to edit that out a looong time ago when he started making nice with the big boys. P.S. For those who don't know, Lynne was one of the initial folks to write about the video a year ago.
- jeneane sessum
you can mean it figuratively all you want, but I've seen him IN blackface, and unless it was a bad dream, it was edited out at some point.
- jeneane sessum
FROM GOOGLE SEARCH: "Feldman had donned blackface in the video to answer the question with a litany of offensive stereotypes. [[march 2008]]"
- jeneane sessum
FROM GOOGLE SEARCH: "In August 2007, Podtech Vlogger Loren Feldman got dressed up in black face (a tech nigga nonetheless) and asked the question, “Where Are The Black Tech Bloggesr?” While Feldman’s video drummed up controversy and was labeled as racist, it got the blogosphere thinking and talking = [[Sept 3, 2007]]
- jeneane sessum
FROM GOOGLE SEARCH: "It appears that Loren Feldman of 1938 Media believes that it’s still funny and totally acceptable to perform in black face in 2007. [[August 18 2007]]"
- jeneane sessum
regardless, it strikes me as bizarre that given everything Feldman has said and done on video up to this point, he wants people to think that corking his face and putting on a Rasta wig represent some kind of sacred line of good taste and giving offence that he would never cross, and that anyone who suggests he would do such a thing is committing borderline libel. Uh, what? You make a...
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- Nathan Rein
For what it's worth, Wikipedia says this about the term "blackface" - "Blackface in the narrow sense is a style of theatrical makeup that originated in the United States. Blackface in the broader sense includes similarly stereotyped performances even when they do not involve blackface makeup." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Mike Doeff
You are an unethical piece of shit. YOU ARE A LIAR. And you did it on purpose to help fastcompany. Shame on you, I will never stop till I have your job, bank on it.
- loren feldman
Jeanne I HAVE never been in blackface you fucking piece of shit. I never edit anything. This is just getting started Lynne I promise FC wont like the heat. You are done you fucking liar.
- loren feldman
I find the differing recollections here (especially jeneane) very interesting. This whole situation (both sides) reeks of emotions out of control. Loren's video clearly provoked some emotional responses that, a year later, still override the facts. But a boombox? Dreadlocks? If you miss the details then no wonder you miss the joke. Low self-esteem and self-hate affects all genders and races, but your actions are reinforcing a far more damaging black stereotype than drinking Bacardi and wearing bling.
- meanguy
How does a journalist make major factual mistakes like this and then claim that your comments weren't really a reflection of your employer? Impossible. What's your agenda here?
- Matt Craven
Matt: Lynne isn't actually a reporter for FastCompany. Her agenda is simple: she thinks Feldman f*cked up with that video. Feldman is crying conspiracy because Scoble also works there. But if you checked the woman's blog post from a year ago -- or her comments on Feldman's video -- you'd know she had an issue with the video back then. This is not a new stance for Lynne, and it's not a part of some "agenda"
- tiffany
And with regards to "blackface," Lynne explained that she meant it figuratively. But having seen the video, I can say he did seem a couple shades darker in the video than he does in person. Indeed, when I saw it at first, I wondered if the person who made it was light-skinned or bi-racial. Now, I'll grant LF the benefit of the doubt -- after all, it *was* summer and cameras/lighting can play tricks -- but an interpretation of blackface in the literal sense wasn't a stretch.
- tiffany
I don't find Loren's skit funny and do believe it is racist. But it is pretty lame to insist that you were using some obscure definition "blackface" while also having some vague memory of a blackface incident. Stop waffling and making excuses and apologize.
- Andrew
I think we need more than an apology on some dopey site like Friendfeed. Even Scoble has figured out to turn off comments in "mainstream" blogs (har!) and redirect the conversation to niche sites like this that nobody reads. This has to be handled in the real media. Shame nobody here has any real juice.
- meanguy
@lorenfeldman, Lynne d Johnson is the furthest thing from a liar my friend and you might want to think twice about going at her. You cannot win if you take that route my friend...
- Tim Moore
Tim she is a complete liar. And she will pay, you'll see my friend.
- loren feldman
Have any of you watched the movie Bamboozled or even understand the stereotypes of black people on a whole. If you understand the term "blackface" then immediately you may think of Al Jolson who sang, Mammy, and you may think of other negative expressions of African Americans which were depicted in Loren's video. That is why I feel that Lynne D Johnson is not a liar. But I guess for those who have issues with Lynne do not walk down the path of someone who has been oppressed so you may never understand.
- Jennifer
Yeah...I can maybe buy the loss of detail because you didn't see the video in while and may have forgot that he wasn't in a wig but anyone in blackface is so rare to see now days, would be extremely obvious and so completely inflammatory that I'm really struggling to believe the "figurative" excuse...Your 5 min on NPR wasn't set up as an opinion piece but set up as a "give the facts" report. I think at worst you lied to further your agenda and at best, let your emotions skew your reporting of the facts...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
And Al Jolson was a Jewish man singing in blackface so I don't understand why people have issues with Lynne D Johnson because I understand where she is coming from: http://www.musicals101.com/jolsonb... and look at his blackface. He is a jewish man singing like this. Okay? http://www.musicals101.com/jolsonb... (and I know you may say spare you of the historical information but I am giving facts too)
- Jennifer
Come on, people. "Blackface" is used all the time to refer to white actors pretending to be black, regardless of the technicalities of the costume. You don't need to cork your face to do blackface. This is not some "obscure," "figurative" meaning. It's very common among people who actually talk about this kind of thing on a regular basis. What Johnson is saying about how she meant the word is not a stretch at all, in my view.
- Nathan Rein
Yeah keep threatening folks on the Internet buddy. The transcripts will look great at your trial.
- Ms_Krista
I agree with Tim Moore and offer my wholehearted support of Lynne. She has more supporters and friends than you'd ever dream of so you need to go and find something else do do with your time besides threatening people in cyberspace.
- Ms_Krista
And to reiterate, why is Feldman so upset about being accused of doing blackface? I mean, he put on a doo-rag and gold chains, faked an accent (complete with "oh lawdy"), smoked the chronic, and talked about playas and hos. And now when someone accuses him of making up his face or wearing a wig, he acts like he's being pilloried? Why is it such a big leap from what he did, to what he thinks he's being so unjustly accused of? Come on, I thought he was all about pushing the envelope and being a bad boy.
- Nathan Rein
Lynne, I think you're pretty much in your rights to take loren's "You'll pay for it" to the FBI. Others have done it for less. Feldman, all I did is post google search results of others who said you 'donned' blackface from the time of the actual video. Odd that they said that at the time. Whether literal or figurative, you GOTTA know it wasn't funny. I said so then. I say so now. No mainstream brand would be affiliated with you -- especially when you talk about going after people. Duh.
- jeneane sessum
P.S. People--Lynne wrote about the video at the TIME. She watched Loren back when many of us used to watch Loren because he was funny once. I would assume that's why they wanted her input. When a story like this blows up, reporters start calling. You either answer or you don't.
- jeneane sessum
cosign Jeneane ...I'm sure the brothers in the penitentiary would just LOVE his comedy routine.
- Ms_Krista
@vincent just giving you an example of the meaning of black face to the comments dealing with her comment. That is what I am referring to. Trying to give a short history lesson on the meaning of it.
- Jennifer
The irony is that Feldman is probably going to be more popular and get more eyeballs than ever before because of all this. Let's see, campaign after campaign was launched to take Howard Stern off the air and with every single complaint he got bigger and bigger. And for every Pepsi ad he lost out on, there was a Snapple ad ready to take it's place. I mean, talk about a HUGE SCORE for Feldman to get 5 minutes on NPR without having to break a sweat! Especially after coming off getting dumped by Verizon....
- Live4Emma (L4S)
from loren's comments: http://www.1938media.com/npr-and... "Loren is Just preparing to ” Snuff Someone Out”!!! Someone is Going Down.. Loren’s Tracking System is Getting Ready to Lock On~"
- jeneane sessum
There's a simple truth at the bottom of all this that Feldman ought to think about before he threatens Johnson or anyone else. You can't do a video called "TechNigga," no matter what your intentions are (not to mention another one about how "black people are lame" or "black people can't get it together"), and have the video out there on the net under your name, and expect Verizon or any other major company to want to be associated with you. Ever. That's just reality. It's not Johnson's fault.
- Nathan Rein
@jeneane to take the phrase "you'll pay for it" as out of context as you did is a very good explanation of this situation as a whole. the video was and still is hilarious. the problem is that if Loren was black and had done a white stereotype we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone just needs to calm the fuck down.
- Zach Underwood
I wasn't aware of the vid last summer, but once I saw it a few months ago I was disgusted. I guess I was waiting for a punchline that never came. It was tasteless and not the least bit humorous. If it was satirical and funny, I may have chuckled it off, but it was just WACK! By the way, LynneD I support your swagger. Dude wants to try and trip you up on a technicality.
- Jeff Gamble
Well, then since you made a mistake you must have no qualms with issusing an official retraction and then telling NPR to do the same...oh wait you're a scumbag liar!
- Andrew Fielding
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@vincent: ah, so it's okay for loren to do it because rappers do? so it would be okay for me to blow up federal buildings in oklahoma or fleece folks out of their 401(K)s because that's what white men do, right? </snark> come on now. ... that said: if you read the comments both on feldman's original post or from elsewhere on the web (try http://www.lizburr.com/2008... for starters), you'd see a range of opinion on whether the vid was racist from some actual black folks.
- tiffany
Did Scoble actually work a plug into the comments?
- Eric Rice
Michael Edwards, since it is obviousy you haven't seen his videos you are being an asshole jumping to conclusions.
- Andrew Fielding
Scoble is a chump. He "laughed" publicly in Techcrunch's comments when Shel got parodied. Now he disavows his coworker Lynne publicly in Feldman's comments when another controversy comes up. Strangely, he didn't think it neccessary to distance himself from Feldman over TechNigga. Scoble thinks he's Switzerland, but really he's France.
- Hashim Warren
@vincent that's the same "well they say it too" logic the media used when Don Imus made those ridiculous statements about the Rutgers basketball team. What is at issue now is not the video, but the very personal attacks Mr. Feldman is unleashing on Lynne for talking about the video on NPR. So, if Eminem raps about killing his wife and putting her in the trunk, I don't like it but, I don't know Kim Mathers either. If he raps about killing my friend by name, absolutely I'm making a fuss about it.
- Ms_Krista
Loren Feldman may be mean, and you may not like his humor but he is not a racist. Anyone who doesn't watch all 7 videos in the series is not qualified to comment on what he did. It was a parody of what so many celebrities, and public figures do all the time. They say or do something stupid and they they go to rehab, they apologize very insincerely, then they come out with a whole new image. That is what he did. The NPR piece was bad journalism at best. Lynne and Loren should speak directly and settle this
- Rick Calvert
Lynne: Together with Fast Company you have failed the online community with your inaccurate reporting.
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please don't apologize in any way to or about this psycho Loren Feldman. This creature is actually threatening you! I cannot believe he gets over bullying others so much. Why are so many people afraid of him? He was in blackface, it was racist, he is now threatening you. My word. It really is unbelievable that any media company would associate with this ranting, racist, psycho man.
- Trula
@vincent: i'll stop "psychoanalyzing" if you stop trying to muddy the waters with a point that's only related in your own biased mind. or try answering my question: since when does one person doing dirt give someone else the moral authority to do it?
- tiffany