I think he speaks the truth, how many web 2.0 sites get enough traffic to generate a decent revenue from their advertising?
- Gadiel Rivera
The big difference "this time around" is that there is some really exciting technology coming out of the web interactivity boom, and regardless of the fate of individual companies, the technology is here to stay. Last time, the bubble was epitomised by braces-wearing yahoos raking in investment capital and blowing it on big parties and very, very basic technology. There was nothing actually there to sell, hence the "bubble". Web 2.0 isn't a bubble, it's a multilayered technoblanket of socialism,
- Slappy Line
Oh yeah... no VC blown on big parties with nothing to sell to see around here. Carry on.
- Cyndy
i like going through other peoples favorites its a good way to find good photographs
- Oscar Juarez
from twhirl
Thomas Hawk: How much time do you spend looking through to find these great photos? Or do you just keep an eye on several excellent photographers?
- Eric Florenzano
Eric, these days most of these faves are coming from here FF. I've set up 100 or so of my favorite photographers on Flickr though as imaginary friends. I still do go directly to Flickr and find things from time to time as well.
- Thomas Hawk
Updated my mobile FF rant and am pleased to be able to do so ;)
- Colin Walker
wow, the iphone version is nice. doesn't look that much different than online.
- Rob Diana
Just tried this on my Treo 700p and it seems pretty sweet. @Colin @acedanger - I have mine memorized too....it is sad.
- elroy
It even works on a Blackberry - that is way cool @bgolub
- Sally Church
Hmm...it doesn't pull up on my iPhone like the picture...shows full-size and the text is too small.
- Paul Arterburn
beautiful job. writing this from my treo 700wx, the world's worst cell phone. if it works here it will work for anyone. thank you for developing this.
- Michael Pardee
So sweet. Working great on my Palm Centro! Good job folks!
- Dan Nimtz
from twhirl
@JP try again? I just had some errors that I fixed
- Benjamin Golub
tried and get "whoops something went wrong" when I try to comment.
- Thomas Hawk
Sweet, gotta try it at lunch, my colleagues won't be happy with me though.
- Caleb Elston
Very nicely done. That is just what I was looking for in a mobile version of FF!
- Scott Jarkoff
I look forward to trying this on my iPod..as soon as I can find a wireless connection.
- Mike Lewis
Not working for me :( Just to be specific, when I put in my username and key and click "Login" it just goes back to the sign in screen. I've tried several times.
- Vince DeGeorge
Sigh; Google App Engine has for some reason stopped sending authorization headers. I'm looking into it.
- Benjamin Golub
Not working for me either. Can't log in.
- Morton Fox
Regular Friendfeed works great on my iPod.
- RAPatton
I'll have to try this (1st gen Moto Q with Windows Mobile 5 and IE4)
- Ontario Emperor
I love all the rapid innovation that's going on here! Nice job Benjamin :)
- Aviv
Looks very nice on the iPhone, but where is the search functionality? Thanks for your time and hard work developing a great app Benjamin.
- James
It seems to work ok on my SE P1i, but I dont really like this remote key thing...
- Fredrik Wennberg
from fftogo
unless you have Verizon for your carrier. Brightkite won't work with Verizon either (in my experience)
- Greg Hollingsworth
from twhirl
Atleast the FriendFeed remote key is easy to remember. Very "human like". I already memorized mine by the third time I had to punch it in
- Bartek Ciszkowski
Twitter doesn't work (properly) with Verizon, either. I never get device updates.
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
funny twitter works for me fine on my verizon phone but not at all on my N75 w/ATT
- Morgan
from twhirl
Iv'e got the same problem as Vince DeGeorge on WM6
- rodmitch
testing FriendFeed for mobile right now. pretty neat! thanks @louisgray
- Myriam
from fftogo
I've found that Friendfeed only half works on my mobile browser
- Mel Francis
It works ok on an iPhone, but a more mobile-friendly version (like Google Reader or Twitter clients like Hahlo) would be easier and more fun to use.
- Bryan Landers
I can use it with my BlackBerry browser, but limited functionality. For instance, I can't "like" anything. I also can't add friends.
- ha3rvey (business time)
Loic, instead why not build a web/ mobile version of Twhirl? Or even better, make it a download for mobiles
- Duncan Riley
from twhirl
I agree there should be a m.friendfeed.com. But with MojiPage (http://sb.mojipage.com/u/wil1/) you can get about 3/4 of FF on your phone... mobile rendering, Like and Comment links. But still no Share Something or threaded conversations... unles I just can't figure it out. Why did FF not think to have m.FF?
- Mark Arend
from Alert Thingy
I would love to see a mobile optimized version of FF. Although FF does mostly work on an iPhone, it's not the most compelling experience. Methinks it would be a lot more user friendly if there was an actual mobile and/or iPhone version of FF available for use.
- Scott Jarkoff
@BretTaylor @Paul Buchheit - Hey Loic is asking a terrific question, which echos my previous request! I've been asking about a mobile version "m.friendfeed.com" site too. When can we get this?? ;-)
- Susan Beebe
While we're on the topic of FF "feature requests," FF definitely needs some kind of @user reply support for comments which mention folks in the manner @susan just mentioned @bret and @paul. Otherwise, unless I'm mistaken, those people will never see the comment and have no idea something is being said "to" them.
- Scott Jarkoff
I think FriendFeed looks good on an iPod Touch.
- Mike Reynolds
There is no reason someone couldn't make their own m.friendfeed.com. The API exposes everything you'd need (comments/likes/etc). I've considered doing it myself....
- Benjamin Golub
I think the @ feature is the biggest feature missing from ff. Its how I find new people on twitter. It really doesn't work as well on ff.
- Nelson de Witt
I know everyone love teh iPhone but what about those of us that don't have it and won't be getting one? :T
- Jennie Lin
Opera browser on the blackberry renders it pretty well
- Tim Connors
Yes I've already suggested that. We need a mobile friendly friendfeed.
- Svartling
I would have to agree the m.friendfeed.com for my Treo would make me a happy camper.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Come on guys. Make a mobile/iPhone optimized version of FF already.
- James
We do need an optimized mobile/iPhone page for friendeed. The regular site is ok but it's not quite good enough....unless you want eye strain headaches..
- Mike Lewis
Happy to know it works well on the iphone but I only use a blackberry these days. This reminds me I want the new one!
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
If I had this mobile, I'd never get anything done!!
- Charlie Anzman
I use a new BlackBerry Curve 8830 and FriendFeed does NOT work on it. twitter does... come'on FriendFeed we want MORE free features! ;-)~
- Susan Beebe
The FF login page breaks on Opera Mini 4.1. Don't know about the rest of FF yet.
- Morton Fox
Does FF work in browsers that don't support AJAX? Progressive enhancement is a frontend engineering best practice that makes it possible for any website to work in a mobile browser without a separate subdomain. AJAX should be a "bonus" for browsers that support it, not a requirement for the site's basic functionality.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I've been talking about this for a while, we definitely need some way to get functionality on all mobile devices. Great it works on an iPhone but we haven't all got iPhones. If we're not going to have m.ff then we need a mobile client that covers ALL bases.
- Colin Walker
No, seriously, not "m." - doing it properly is so much better. The mobile web needs to die. There is just 'the web'.
- Tom Morris
second that. both that we need it, and that we dont need m. we just need a version that knows where its shown on. or some app like twibble for FF.
- kosmar
Wow it sure be hard to read the volume of content on any mobile device
- Tim FitzGerald
You know, I tried to install the FF plug-in for WP, and it puked all over the place. Looking for ideas on why it doesn't work.
- Cyndy
Cyndy, when you figure it out, please develop one for Blogger so I can use it too. Thanks!
- Louis Gray
Louis, PHP is something I use as little as possible. ALSO, Blogger has been a hot mess since Google bought them. I want to figure out how it works though to try to talk Markus into implementing on Profy platform. ;)
- Cyndy
I doubt the system is collapsing, but there are some interesting problems. "In the middle is a bottleneck—a relatively small number of wholesalers and buyers who largely determine what the starving farmers produce and what the stuffed consumers eat. In the Netherlands, Germany, France, Austria, Belgium, and the United Kingdom, there are a hundred and sixty million consumers, fed by approximately 3.2 million farmers. But the farmers and the consumers are connected to one another by a mere hundred and ten wholesale “buying desks.”"
- Paul Buchheit
So now the challenge is to use this wonderful technology to make life better, not just entertaining. It makes me wonder what's really happening with that website which was supposed to donate rice for playing its word games.
- Mark Dykeman
@Roger just like almost every meeting across almost every company in the world :)
- Jeff Brewster
from twhirl
The fallacy was that somehow all this great technology was going to change human nature. It won't. We still are who we've always been. All this social networking just allows us to be louder about it.
- Mike McBride
I've come to realize that some people are simply not going to make an effort to learn FriendFeed. I'm not going to waste my time with the lazy, stubborn, naysayers. There's plenty of internet out there for you.
Bwana, that's why we are early adopters. They'll come around eventually. I remember a lot of people bad mouthing Twitter a year ago. Saying it was a "fad", now those same people are all on Twitter. Give it a year, they'll all be on FF next.
- Thomas Hawk
And by the time everyone's on FF some early adopters will find new things to well...adopt. It's the way it always is. Hopefully FF will still be able to draw users in by then.
- Daniel Spradau
Well I admit that I don't get it yet. I'm finding that I don't have enough time to keep up with FF as well as the few other networks that I belong to but I'm trying.
- Vaughn
from twhirl
I agree with Mr. Hawk and Mr. Gray. First the early adopters, then the spammers, then the mass market people. I'm sure Yahoo is saying to themselves now, we can do our own Twitter (Yitter?).
- Mike Reynolds
I know many people who use email, yahoo, maybe google and youtube. On youtube they barely now how to hit play. I do not think the masses really care about learning it, even if it would help them.
- Rob Diana
Well, if they are not @ lots of social sites (like us crazies) I can understand. Really. But for those of us who are, it brings it all together in a simple, easy to read (and comment) area.
- Barbara K. Baker
Ok, I need to re-read my own posts and follow through. I'm going to kick back and enjoy the complaining from the sidelines.
- Bwana ☠
FriendFeed seems like one of those thingerate like my grs only the true tech geeks are going to appreciate. I'm trying to imagine someone barely computer-litandmother (who uses it to write email and play Yahoo games) using FF and I can't see it.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Ok, anytime a new alert goes off, Twhirl totally butchers what I'm writing :(
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
That's a big reason why I prefer the website for FF now. The clients still need work.
- Bwana ☠