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Leo Laporte
I'd like to reiterate my call for Facebook to open source the Friendfeed codebase (as AOL did when it bought Netscape). A federated OpenFriendfeed is the best for users - and fits Facebook's move toward an open social platform. I'll pay to run a server. Would you?
I agree with this fully. - Akiva Moskovitz
I can't imagine that the terms of the acquisition would permit this to happen. Oh, wait... Facebook take FriendFeed open source? Maybe in two or three years after they squeeze every bit of life out of it, ala Google/Jaiku - Ken Sheppardson
Would that mean there would be dozens of Friendfeeds all trying to get us to come to them? - Mark
I support this fully - Ryan
yes what about a free GAE - abdellah
Oh I agree. But with Facebook's record? HAHAH! Oh god, I need a mint. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'll file this away under "Never Gonna Happen"... - Andrew Terry
Jaiku is not dead. It was bought for a reason, and yes, it will resurface soon. you just wait n see. - binmugahid
I agree with Andrew... - Suril Amin
I don't think I'd pay, but I'd love to have it open source - Jake Anderson
Worked for AOL. We got Mozilla and they got a much improved Netscape. - Leo Laporte
Leo, I think you have a little too much "hope" on this. Maybe you're just thinking if Facebook was smart, then they'd do that. - Mark
Facebook is much smarter than you're giving them credit for. I think. - Leo Laporte
great idea Leo, i'm 'cautiously optimistic' at this point in time about the future of FriendFeed... lets hope for the best people - Chris Heath
There is no value in that to them. Why open source something that give them a competitive edge. - binmugahid
I do not agree. It destroyed netscape. let Facebook use the best features of FriendFeed in it. Keep the talent like the four ex-google founders. Open source is not the answer to everything. sometimes Closed Source is better for the users as well. Just keep the innovations coming and it will be fine - hasanahmad
They've got the Friendfeed team. That's probably what they really wanted. Getting the open source community working on the FF codebase and contributing it back to Facebook is a win for everyone. - Leo Laporte
On the other hand, I ike to see Laconica (identi.ca) getting more like ff. - Chanux
Wow did this just happen today? - bravestface
yesterday - Chris Heath
Open-sourcing Communicator may have ultimately destroyed Netscape as a brand but without that move, I suspect we'd all still be developing for IE6. Great call, Leo. - Jared Smith
Excellent idea Leo. - Adi
I just can't stand Facebook. To many people I let in from my youth that I don;t want to see - bravestface
You're assuming that Facebook bought the company JUST to get the developers, and not because they want to integrate many/most of the features into their service. If they want the features, they don't want a bunch of clones competing with them. - Joel Bennett
I'll send you a hefty donation for that Leo. - jcunwired
bravestface: That's not FB's fault you let them in. sheesh. - Gus
when will twitter be back up any 1 know - daveccorey
There already is an open source clone of twitter - see identi.ca and laconia or whatever it's called - Doug Holton
True. very True Gus. My own fault. Perhaps I need to setup an Alias account that encompasses what i really want - bravestface
I already run a Laconica server at http://army.twit.tv - I don't think we need another Twitter clone. We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer. - Leo Laporte
hay hay hay, sin duda un tema un tanto escabrozo, pero entre Facebook y Google, esto no lleva a nada bueno.. i'ts a hard theme, no doubt about that, but between facebook and google we are going to hell !!!!!! - Đoи яамoη
Or Pushbutton? - bravestface
This would be amazing. - Adam Teece
The Wave *protocal* might be a part of the answer... or just giving yourself over to whatever Google wants you to use might work (i.e. Wave, Reader, Gtalk, etc.)... but I don't really see Wave asdirect 1-for-1 FF replacement. - Ken Sheppardson
Too many systems in place - bravestface
They open sourced the Facebook code base (fbopen)... the license is very restrictive, however. FB owns all code modifications. Probably be the same license for FF. - Kurt
In know people that have replaced their email with Twitter....that just isn't right...we need one locator that many systems can reach - bravestface
Great idea Leo. Now let's see what they do, if they're listening. - Kelly Mitchell
Leo - your last comment is why I think Facebook bought Friendfeed: "We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer." This is going to be a product they will launch in opposition of Google Wave. It will surface Q1 of 2010 and will have some of the same features that Wave has - but be closed sourced to Facebook. - Jeff Vreeland
I see what you mean. Facebook and Google though don't really open source their web apps - Doug Holton
Facebook doesn't seem to have a good reputation with those kind of thing. Facebook promised to open their chat/IM system via XMPP. More than a year has passed since they announced this XMPP system it still did not happen. We still have to rely on screen-scraping methods to implement Facebook chat on third-party IM systems (like the 3rd party Facebook chat plugin for pidgin called pidgin-facebook). - Gideon Guillen
I would love to see friendfeed become opensource. Mostly as a developer I would love to see the code. See how friendfeed works. - mikemcmullan
An "open FriendFeed" could be Facebook's chance to get something lined up to compete with Google Wave. Without it, Google and Twitter are going to own the real-time communication space. - Derek Gathright
Completly agree! - Jamie-Lee Mclean-Davis from Nambu
Open source is the way to so that "The poeple" can do what they want or to a program. E.I. www.Openssourcemaps.com - D Lets from iPhone
Absolutely. - Ian Littman
OS FF would be awesome, but making it a federated service is an entirely different ball of wax. Just ask the Wave guys. They said during the original IO presentation that federation was one of the harder parts (though FF would be easier w/o the real time editing piece, but still). - Patrick Sullivan
OS FF - Malcolm Bastien
I think a integrated RSS/FB/FF/GW/Twitter client will be an interesting real time inflection point - Jim Posner
I totally agree Leo. I can't help but think that this deal is going to be a massive success or a massive flop - nothing in the middle! It's simple things like opening the FF source that can help make it a massive success IMHO. - Chris Cathcart
correction: Http://www.openstreetmap.org - D Lets from iPhone
I would just like to see the real-time commenting open-sourced. - patrick
wow Leo you sure know how to get a topic started - Joe Geeting
I would. It is hard using Friendfeed now not knowing its fate. - Hunt from BuddyFeed
I actually was hoping Twitter would be the one to grab it up. Seems like a natural progression for Twitter to make. I just hope Facebook doesn't bury it and they actually use it. As far as open source it? Could be interesting. - Michael Bower
In a secure and closed environment it could be a powerful communication/collaboration tool for businesses. Features of a chat, but persistent. Ability to share photos & files... - Ken Bauer
definently - Ryan Peach
Right-o - Myrddin Emrys
I would love for this to happen. Federated Friendfeed servers would be quite fun and is the logical step for a great Internet service which aggregates disparate information from all over. - rob friedman
You know what, Jaiku was open sourced. And nobody uses it anymore. The fact that "it" (FB open sourcing FF) will happen or not is completely irrelevant. Because you will all be hopping on the next early adopter miracle train (read:service) anyway. So stop whining and move on. Federated this, federated that. identi.ca tried that. Again, no users. It's nice to talk the talk. Especially at times like this. You just gotta walk the darn walk afterwards. Which people usually forget to do. - Vlad Bobleanta
Whoa... you should enhance your calm. Communities are finicky things and sources like Microsoft that are poo-pooing Open Source IMHO is the real problem. Me thinks that a better source of education to dissipate the FUD floating in the global porcelain bowel instead of modern political tactics are are needed to solve real problems. - Myrddin Emrys
very good proposition, i'd pay - Brian Appleby
Leo, like this idea. - Kol Tregaskes
adoption of open standards such as OMB, which is used by laconica, would allow federation among servers - Mike Chelen
It will one hell of a start, I doubt it though... - Dobromir Hadzhiev
It would be a good thing, but not sure it it will ever happen - Thomas Lee
I support this as well. - Carlos Ayala
Now this is something I would fly out to support at the launch... - Johnny Worthington
Another reason why Leo kicks ass - Mo Kargas
If FriendFeed went open source identi.ca / lamonica would be dealt a serious blow. FriendFeed could become even more powerful if the people could tinker with the code and add many features that remain missing, or strengthen features that currently are weak. It will be interesting to se how FB utilizes their newest acquisition... - Randy Shapiro
FYI, there's already an open source alternative: http://www.fftogo.com/e... - Marcos Marado from fftogo
absolutley ;) - Kenneth Reitz
i would pay - cheapsuits
ive all ready got a amp for 5 bucks 4 twitter that was suspsose to help twitter run better guess what it dont - daveccorey
no definitely not. it would shift everything to Chinese government... Damn, millions would have their rest life in prisons. - xiawinter
Mark Trapp
Feature Request: provide a way to export all of our data out of FriendFeed before it's merged into Facebook.
And secure account deletion plz. - matthew john ernisse
Yeah, I'd like to get my FF posts out. - Yolanda
http://ff.im/6pHjo Yes. Also, can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. - Mitchell Tsai
:( - edythe from iPhone
secure account deletion would be good - Bhowmik Shah
Louis Gray
This is about as clear an excuse as I have found for getting moved over to Gmail finally... #postcrash
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I'm leaving. Hopefully this is fixed when I get back. - Louis Gray
I hate Mail.app for that reason. I had one of those that kept crashing as it was trying to re-import. - Jesse Stay
Although the slowness of Gmail is making me want to re-consider MobileMe - Jesse Stay
I moved to Gmail and use mail.app to access it :-) - Glen Campbell, B.A.
pc 4life - Allen Stern
Louis, I dumped Mail.app ages ago for similar reasons after moving from Exchange to Gmail. Have you looked at Mailplane yet? http://mailplaneapp.com/ I generally use Gmail on the web, but when I looked at Mailplane, it wasn't bad. - Kevin C. Tofel
gmail on mail.app = NOT very good and I am so used to GMail UI that i cannot work on Mail.app (despite threading enabled). Mailplane is good especially to manage multiple gmail accounts. - kartik vaithyanathan
LG: why don't you move to SL? it will perform a database upgrade on mail though and NO going back to L though after that. - kartik vaithyanathan
Holden, yes, extremely. Occasionally it speeds up, but it's really turning me off. - Jesse Stay
I'm like Glen -- only I use Evolution (OpenSolaris and Linux). IMAP + a bazillion well-thought-out filters + an old school desktop client works great for me. - Joanmarie
Gmail has been slow off and on for me. I switched over the "older version" and man, what a difference it made... very very fast compared to what I have been dealing with.. only problem is you lose all the gadgets. But if you are impatient and want to speed things up for a bit, it is worth considering. - Sid Burgess
That's gotta be a slow walk to get more coffee (my test of how long things take on my computer) - anna sauce
Actually Gmail is pretty fast for me, even with a 3G connection. I hope this doesn't change. - Oliver Bouchard from iPhone
never happened to me, despite so much 'mail' from friends - Amit 'zyaada' Mittal
i'd just #blamedrewscancer for a couple of years, Gmail! ugh! - Amit 'zyaada' Mittal
As much as I love Apple and wanted to use as much of the Apple applications as possible, I bailed on Mail.app and went with Google/GMail a few months back and haven't been sorry. The web interface of GMail keeps getting better, especially with the Labs add-ons. It did take awhile to upload/transfer existing mail messages from Mail.app via setting up GMail IMAP access, but when done and 2 GIG of mail later, it was like heaven. - Keith Rowland
Gmail via IMAP crawls - literally - for me, whether it's to my iPhone (3G or Wifi), or to Mail.app (which I am also about to abandon because I am tired of it's liking for taking a regular nap), or Thunderbird, or mutt. Gmail via web is much better, but then I guess it should be... - Andy Bold
And with http://www.globexdesigns.com/gmail... the web interface is even cooler! - Keith Rowland
Leo Laporte
Could You be Hacked Like Twitter? - PC World - http://www.pcworld.com/article...
Pay special attention to secondary e-mail accounts connected to your primary e-mail address; consider giving a bogus answer (that only you remember) to security questions; and regularly change your passwords, either by your own invention or with a random password generator like GRC or Strong Password Generator. You could also get away from using just one or two passwords, and use password managers like Clipperz, KeePass or Yubico to remember your details instead. But perhaps most importantly, search for the most common passwords you use in your own webmail accounts and delete those messages. If the worst happens and your account is compromised, you'll be glad you did. - Leo Laporte
goos to have you back leo. marquitux from argentina - marcos
Don't forget that there is also Stanford's https://www.pwdhash.com/ - Adrian James Chung
I use 1Password to manage my 300+ passwords. - George Brickner
Leo Laporte
Live now: coverage of the Apple WWDC keynote with iJustine, Alex Lindsay, Andy Ihnatko and Leo Laporte. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
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Thank you Leo - Erle Stride
Amazing. I watched this pop up and get liked in less than 5 seconds. - Scott Ohlemacher
leo stickam is still down - steve
Makes me feel like I live in the future. - Scott Ohlemacher
Let's get this show on the road. - Mister IQ
Now they're slamming Vista - Simon Tracey
Keynotetweets.com is awesome site, make sure he gets credit Leo! - Michael
No info on when these new macbooks will be out in the UK? - Giraffes Up In The AIr
watching developments from Joburg airport departure lounge! Tim - Tim Biller
Bwana.tv/live seems to have audio of inside. - Hawklu
Apple stores pulled all the iPhone Displays - Erle Stride
en cuanto? - Jason from IM
Thanks Leo hopefully we will see a new Apple TV - CuriousTux
re:13" MacBook becomes MacBook Pro. This opens new "Netbook" to become MacBook ??? - Igo Tan
Leo, when you say a website - can you please put it in here too -- or someone ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™
So far on track for Steve coming for the iPhone at the end of the keynote. - Mister IQ
Why would Apple release notebooks without Snow Leopard? - Ryan
Apple stores pulled all the iPhone Displays - Erle Stride
OSx 10.6 today? - Michael Mooney
Are we going to see Snow Leopard today? - Simon Tracey
I can hear everyone. - Jonathan Langdale
i'm hearing them - Brandon Weir
I can hear everyone, those are old posts - Michael
hearing the stream on bitgravity - Patrick Dunn
We can hear all of them - LPH™ and his dog P™
We can hear them fine! :) - Giraffes Up In The AIr
Can hear them fine. - Bleu Caldwell
Tell justine to move her laptop so we can see her - Michael
I hear all of them. - Ben Fiore
I have audio. - Peter Kruit
We didnt hear the audio at the beginning, but it kicked in about 10mins ago :) - Giraffes Up In The AIr
Hi Justine :) - Peter Kruit
Yea we want a better view of the female behind the Macbook. - Jonathan Langdale
Yep. Snow Leopard is official. - Jessica
There is still a white macbook. Non-white 13" is now macbook pro - Pete Finlay
Thanks Leo! Much better than floating heads over macbooks - Michael
That looks much better yea. - Jonathan Langdale
All the better to get tablets! - Jonathan Langdale
Tell Alex to undo that top button. LOL - Michael
Safari 4 shipping today. - Michael W. Sumbera
Tablets are going to solve the laptop LOS problem. - Jonathan Langdale
Google Wave should make next year's coverage much better. - Hawklu
Alex and justine need to up the commentary... - SPIRE WIRED
oooooh 64-bit javascript speed increase! nice! - Jonathan Langdale
I can't believe I have to go to a meeting now - Darrel Davis
Leo, Macrumourslive.com have pictures..... - Giraffes Up In The AIr
Darrel - walk slowly ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™
I'm not a huge Ryan Block fan, but gdgt.com has a good feed. - Ryan
Hey all, Live Video stream. Listenable. http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Michel
QT Pro needed for fullscreen. - Michael W. Sumbera
MacRumers updating faster than Engadget - PXLated
I love real-time social media. - Jonathan Langdale
Revised MBP, nice... Now revise Euro pricing, $3,500 for a MBP 17" is too much! - David Wright from twhirl
That's Quick Look, not Expose. - Michael W. Sumbera
Mac rumors seems to be keeping up the best so far - Michael
A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29. - Shane Harwood
It's weird when we're critical of a company frequently improving their products without a large increase in price. Seems backwards, but that's what we want. - Jonathan Langdale
29$ thats sweet, just got 10.5 and was planning on skipping snow - detorn
Guys, the http://www.ustream.tv/channel... stream just got a lot better sound. - Michel
That live stream is really bad, it sucks. - Jonathan Langdale
$29 in comparison to Windows-7 skyhigh pricing - PXLated
Well, it's something. - Michel
That could explain the Best Bus announcement of upgrades for $59 and $99... - David Wright from twhirl
win7 pricing will be $50 for the upgrade, not terrible - detorn
For 10.5 owners, $29. - Michael W. Sumbera
September? I can't wait that long... - Michel
$29 is amazing... well done Apple - Simon Tracey
Yea Sept is along way off. - Jonathan Langdale
Gives devs time to get things ready. - Michael W. Sumbera
Is $29 really the truth? Any links to back it up? - Ryan
Yep. $29 is truth. Pretty awesome, huh? - Michel
I miss Steve :< - Jonathan Langdale
lol, harness the power of graphics? Entry level graphics in new machines... :-S - David Wright from twhirl
@Jonathan These few months were just a test for him not being at Apple, I say. - Michel
what about us G4 processor people? are we left in the dust? - Chris Heath
haven't made a G4 in 4 or 5 years, time to upgrade - detorn
Sorry Chris, it looks like Apple are not supporting the old CPU's anymore - Simon Tracey
Exchange support, that I expected. - Mister IQ
This is great news for developers. Not meant of users. - Jonathan Langdale
"A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29. - Shane Harwood" - Michael W. Sumbera
I predict whoever is streaming that feed is going to get caught. - Jonathan Langdale
Having to set up Entrourage or Mail with Exchange, built-in support is NICE! - David Wright from twhirl
I think more small business going to Google Apps going to def push out Exchange - Jonathan Langdale
Exchange IS entrenched. So yes, it is great to have full support so I can get all my PIM data on my Mac w/out going thru hoops - Jay GT:Blackfish 95
Temple University just switched to the google platform... something like 35K students... not just for small business - detorn
I can hear the u stream audio, it's pretty crap. - Jonathan Langdale
Yeah. But you can understand it. - Michel
Now shifting to the iPhone - Michael Mooney
Yea the home versions are pretty crap. Pro always better. - Jonathan Langdale
Officially confirmed for $29. - Michel
iPhone time! - Peter Kruit
Depends, cloud isn't an option for many... Especially with legal implications not clear... - David Wright from twhirl
Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone - Jonathan Langdale
Family pack is $49? Heck yeah! That's $150 cheaper than I was willing to pay. Amazing. - Ryan
About time to get to the iPhone ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™
http://www.ustream.tv/channel... has audio of WWDC and terrible video - Magnus Tait
those prices are for leopard upgrades only - detorn
So the Spy shots of the Matte black iPhone were fake? - Erle Stride
http://www.ustream.tv/channel... <---- Cali Lewis is reading out the audio Leo - Preston Taylor
@Wrightde you make a great point - Jonathan Langdale
@detorn Many people already have Leopard. I'm willing to pay $49 for the Snow Leopard features. - Ryan
Wow. I might have a reason now to get a Mac Mini. - Jose G
Playing a video of developers telling their story - Michael Mooney
Leo, video with OK audio. http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Mister IQ
absolutely, I'm there already. Just making the clarification. - detorn
I wish they would play a video about developers complaining about App Store. - Jonathan Langdale
As someone else said -->http://www.ustream.tv/channel... (Crummy video, but better than nothing. Audio is pretty decent.) - Justin
UStreams seems to work fine for me. Anyone else having trouble? - Michel
Developers (Airstrip, EA, Igloo Games, MLB.com, etc) talking about how the iPhone / App Store has changed their businesses and lives - Michael Mooney
Uh-ho. Leo and Alex talking about Fieldrunners. Great. lol - Michel
hate to admit it, but great fieldrunners tips. That game is crack - Michael
Here's one iphone developer talking about their business and how app store changed their live http://cli.gs/cligs/new - Jonathan Langdale
Video ended. - Mister IQ
He finally checked his tweets, I totally call that one - Doug
Argh, just how many times do they have to talk about APIs. - Michel
I am a total apple fanboy, but applauding for copy, paste and undo seems wrong. - detorn
@detorn good point - Jonathan Langdale
@detorn totally - Simon Tracey
MMS - later this summer? - LPH™ and his dog P™
why not MMS now? - andy brudtkuhl
I think that means we won't see the new iPhone OS until July. - Ryan
This is not the kind of dev keynote I'm used to, especially about iPhone which is what is leading development. - Jonathan Langdale
@detorn Oh yes. I hated when that happened on the 3.0 preview. - Michel
Landscape near everywhere, only 2 years late. - Mister IQ
Yep Ryan - I think so :( - LPH™ and his dog P™
No word about background processing yet. - Jonathan Langdale
Is MMS important with twitter? - Ben
@ben no - andy brudtkuhl
"AT&T will be ready to support MMS later this summer." .... they support it already - Kashif Khan
Renting + purchasing movies on the iPhone. Nice. - Michel
@kashif i know i could do MMS 2 years ago on AT&T - andy brudtkuhl
i wanna see dual boot support for windows mobil 6.5...lol - detorn
@ben only if you have friends without a computer... - David Wright from twhirl
Note: emphasis on Parental Controls. - Michel
When are they going to annouce Android support on iphone? - Jonathan Langdale
AT&T supports MMS for other phones, why not the iPhone? - Mister IQ
tethering is HUGE! - detorn
Tethering .... Rogers will never let that happen :( - Simon Tracey
Allowing teathering? - PXLated
seamless tethering... - andy brudtkuhl
Yeah. As a 3.0 Beta tester, I can say that it really is seamles.. - Michel
Tethering is cool, but I want GPS on iTouch with my own MiFi - Jonathan Langdale
no tethering on AT&T? - andy brudtkuhl
f that - andy brudtkuhl
lol. Major hit. No AT&T. - Michel
This constant buffering is getting on my nerves. - WazNeeni
AT&T doesn't want you to use Skype - Jonathan Langdale
WOW Rogers will allow tethering but not AT&T.... - Simon Tracey
boo AT&T total Fail - Kim Landwehr
AT&T is blowing this. wow - Johnny
Damn AT&T!!!! - PXLated
They're trying to make up for flash with Javascript and similar technologies. - Michel
I was just in Chicago and AT&T couldn't handle the 55,000 people at a soccer game. It was a horrible experience. iPhone on Verizon? I'm game. - Ryan
Wow all those ATT users are going to be so HAPPY - Jonathan Langdale
WHEN IS IT OUT!??? - Simon Tracey
announce verizon, so i can ditch att. No tether huge fail - Michael
Verizon MiFi -> iTouch == Win - Jonathan Langdale
I bet new iPhone will be the 'One more thing...' - Michel
Haven't bought an iPhone (and it's killing me) but won't until there's tethering - PXLated
Given the iPhone 3.0 preview was in March, I'd expect this all goes live about...now, right? - Ken Sheppardson
No Esperanto? Booo!!! ;) - Simon Tracey
I'm not sure how AT&T couldn't be a launch partner here -- really strange - LPH™ and his dog P™
AT&T needs more time to filter your tethered packets for VOIP - Jonathan Langdale
Damn it people, don't clap for stupid things. - Michel
What if the phone is down the back of the sofa?? - Giraffes Up In The AIr
I lose my phone and can't find it because the battery is dead (edit: Agree Leo!) - LPH™ and his dog P™
Thats a good feature for my friend who was drunk and paid for a cab with his iPhone... - Johnny
Michel: They're developers. This means they get to build cooler stuff. - Ken Sheppardson
I'm not liking the In-App Purchases. Who's with me? It's just to take more money from me... - Michel
So this is an API for developers to help Apple force people to buy through App Store more. - Jonathan Langdale
@michael somewhat agreed - Ben
WTF IS THAT SOUND!? - Jonathan Langdale
can you "squirt" songs, ala zune? - detorn
Can they simply get to the new stuff - Bas Heetebrij
That sounded like hand cuffs. - Jonathan Langdale
@Jon LOL. Wouldn't be surprised... - Michel
I knew it, 4G iphone is going to be a iPhone Tricorder - Jonathan Langdale
Anybody see any reason I should change my plans to buy a Pre yet? - Ken Sheppardson
the guy streaming the live vid, may be comic book guy... eating cheetos... get that image out of your head now! - detorn
Are we all expecting 3.0 to be released today? - Ben
They're not going to talk about background processing? - Jonathan Langdale
No Ben - was hoping ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™
3.0 might be with the new hardware and that still needs FCC approval. - Michel
Ben, I'll pay you $5 if they release it today. Not going to happen. They'll wait till the new iPhone comes out. - Ryan
Find My iPhone should be available as a one-off paid service rather than just part of MobileMe. If I really lose my phone I might be prepared to pay a small fee to wipe it remotely. - bobrudge
I thought video guy was trying to get his medication :D - David Wright from twhirl
KShep, I've had the 3.0 beta and watching the Pre unbox almost made me cry. Why isn't Apple on the ball like that? - iluvgimp
#Michel the new iPhone may already have approval. There's a misconception that you have to wait to announce to keep it secret. - Ryan
@bobrudge I totally agree. I'm not paying $129 for it every year just for that feature. Hell, its worth the price of a new phone :P - Michel
But how many times have they kept it a secret? - Michel
I'm thinking Doom, in real-life for the turn-by-turn. :-) - Jesse Stay
there is a great Leo quote for the keynote, "I was hoping there would be news by now." - detorn
Then get out on the trike Leo! - David Wright from twhirl
Maybe Steve will come out at the end? - Jonathan Langdale
They really need to whip out "one more thing" pretty quick... ZZzzz... - Ken Sheppardson
LOL @ David - Roberto Bonini
One more thing...Waterproof TABLETs! - Jonathan Langdale
20,262 viewers right now - Ken Sheppardson
of the stream from the event - Ken Sheppardson
Even the video camera & editing isn't going to bring this back... no tethering or MMS support from AT&T for "awhile" at least really sinks this ship. - iluvgimp
I agree Ken - I'm starting to dose --- I wish Jonathan -- an Apple Tablet PC would be cool - LPH™ and his dog P™
Apple tablet is not happening now. Not enough rumors. I say. - Michel
Michael - I hope you're wrong. I want the Apple tablet more than a new iPhone. :( - Johnny
I hope I'm wrong too :( - Michel
question, isn't using an apple product for medical purposes against the apple TOS? - detorn
This is becoming a waste of time... will they just get on with it. - Bas Heetebrij
This is going to be huge to tap into the healthcare application market - Jonathan Langdale
This is either a great stall -- or they have nothing to announce that is new - LPH™ and his dog P™
It's funny because before the uStream guy fixed the audio, all I could say on Twitter was: "Oh! Something cool just happened. Dunno what though..." - Michel
Why are they replaying the March 3.0 Preview event video? - Ken Sheppardson
This is boring... - Johnny
Well, It is a developers conference - rumors be damned - PXLated
You know, you guys were nagging Apple like this last year. You wanted 3G, you wanted GPS bla bla. Now you're poo-pooing GPS and saying that there is zero coverage of 3G in the US. The beauty of the iPhone is the lack of a continual need for hardware updates. The functionality is not tied to the phone. Every version of the phone has the same functionality, only with different specs - Jackson Pollock
PXL, but they've said all of this already - detorn
I'm getting bored - Jesse Stay
Books in app.store -- to compete with Amazon - LPH™ and his dog P™
Did they say when iPhone 3.0 software would be released? - Johnny
Jesse: Getting? - Ken Sheppardson
not yet Johnny - detorn
Not yet Johnny - LPH™ and his dog P™
Ken, I have bored - Jesse Stay
iPhone is not a good medium for reading books - bobrudge
I'm a dev and this is all boring except the airstream health care stuff. - Jonathan Langdale
iPhone. - Michel
LPH - Thanks, I thought I might have missed it during one of my micro-naps throughout this keynote - Johnny
Where's iJustine in this chat? I know she uses FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay
They are really milking this for all it's worth. Come on..."Oh yeah...one more thing." - Bryan Brooks
OK, how 'bout that new phone? - Bill Frater
there isn't a big history of "one more thing" at WWDC. And never yet without Steve - Jackson Pollock
yeah... iphone is not for reading iphone... is there something else coming? - Bas Heetebrij
As a student. I would love the textbook thing. It's great for me, as a student. Who has his iPhone in class most of the time (For educational purposes!) - Michel
Is this just what we should start to expect from post-Jobsian Apple? - Ken Sheppardson
is apple make a student only iphone - Michael Mooney
You don't get it if you want a new phone. The iphone itself is merely a way to communicate and interact with the iphone OS. The whole point of the iPhone design is that it's as little hardware design as possible. - Jackson Pollock
We've lost the panel.. talking about Tom-Tom :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Where is the iTouch news... where is the background processing... - Jonathan Langdale
I don't know about you guys but I would rather hear the audio feed mostly, not the commentary - Robb McMahan
@Michael Mooney: That's the iPod Touch. @Jon Please dont call it the iTouch. - Michel
doesn't navigation need background processes? - Bas Heetebrij
Ah... Tom-Tom for iPhone. Reminds me... I used to run Tom Tom on my Treo 755p. I wonder if Pre will have it... - Ken Sheppardson
I've been waiting on the turn by turn since this thing came out! sweet! - Bryan Brooks
I like calling it the iTouch :< - Jonathan Langdale
C'mon guys, would you guys PLEASE hush and let us hear the official feed! Comment after it's over like they would on CNN. - Robb McMahan
background processing is such a heap of mess. let's not forget that the primary market for this phone is mere mortals who don't know about memory and process load and everything else. They'll avoid it if they can - Jackson Pollock
@Robb I want to hear the commentary from the panel one what's going on - otherwise I'd just watch the stream. I want opinions on what's going on. - bobrudge
So what's with the hardware for TomTom? What is it actually used for? - Michel
@Robb first comment on this tread has the link - detorn
Anyone know the feed address? - Robb McMahan
oh..thanks - Robb McMahan
@Michel for mounting in the car, by the sound of it, power + sound + GPS aerial - David Wright from twhirl
Ken: post-Jobs? who's said anything about post-Jobs? - Jackson Pollock
@david I see, thanks. But having two gps antennas there seems a bit of a waste (of money), IMO. - Michel
Jackson... it's just that I haven't seen him yet. I suppose he could trot out and wake us up in a few. - Ken Sheppardson
They're going to arrest the guy and cut the feed right before the iPhone info - Jonathan Langdale
Hardware? Hardware? Hardware? - Thobias Vemmenby
he's on a leave of absence out June - Jackson Pollock
Right, Jackson. - Ken Sheppardson
Will be available when 3.0 is available. Again, not going to happen. - Ryan
Not today, that is. - Michel
Have faith! The Steve will fix. - Thobias Vemmenby
I've had it with Apple demoing apps. They do it every keynote now. Seriously, apps on the iPhone has become a pretty common thing. - Michel
YEA BABY Iphone TRICORDER i luv it - Jonathan Langdale
I'm wondering if BestBuy will let me return the MacBook Pro 15" I bought 3 weeks ago and get one of the new ones. Did they say when they would be available? - Jesse Stay
If Jobs died tomorrow, the company wouldn't change much at all. It's the most fine-oiled machine in the technology industry. Jobs has spent the last 12 years filling the board and the senior positions with people of his own liking. Ive, Forstall, Serlet, Cook, they're all handpicked by Jobs and have been doing their job for the last 10 years. - Jackson Pollock
Me too Lindsay. Original iPhone lacked too many features *I* needed. New version looks much better - David Wright from twhirl
new macs today, bestbuy or apple should let you exchange within 30 days - detorn
Jackson: This event would indicate otherwise. - Ken Sheppardson
This event is pretty identical to last year's - Jackson Pollock
I got the new MBP in December. :( - Johnny
detorn nice - maybe I'll even get some money back after today's announcement :-) - Jesse Stay
Jesse : Available now, I think they said... - David Wright from twhirl
I'm really happy with my 2007 MBP. Seriously, for me, it's brand new. - Michel
I have iTouch and I LOVE using Skype and Fringe. I don't like paying cell fees. I only want GPS in iTouch - Jonathan Langdale
It's a developer conference. For software developers. They're not engineers and industrial designers, they're computer scientists who are looking to make money from developing their applications on this platform - Jackson Pollock
Apple stock down 4. Down to 140.5 - Michel
Intersting..... - Roberto Bonini
I almost bought the new MBP when they first came about, but I got another 15 MBP prev gen for FW800 - Jonathan Langdale
Apple is not attending Macworld any longer, they're not really doing press conferences to release products anymore, they're changing how they do things, not what they do. - Jackson Pollock
Apparently the market doesn't realize this is a "developer conference" - Ken Sheppardson
Lol. Wave iPhone over stuff to buy. Look at that money go! - Michel
is leo down - Michael Mooney
Is twit.am down? Just lost it on my iPhone and it can't reconnect... - Adam Jenkins
twit.am is down via iTunes too! What's up? - Thobias Vemmenby
Apple shares, up nearly 70% in 2009, have slid during the presentation, recently trading at $140.94, down 3.8% on the day. -- WSJ - LPH™ and his dog P™
also just lost twit.am on the iphone - Michael
Apple stock has been down since market open, not because of today's announcements. - Pete Finlay
Oops, forgot it is an Apple feed... My "touch" is an htc Touch Pro :red: - David Wright from twhirl
The stock has barely moved during the keynote. - Pete Finlay
@ Michael/Thobias/Adam They've been having some power issues today. Outages and such. - Justin
The stock always drops during the keynotes anyway and then rises dramatically after wards. - Michel
Is there going to be a new API to search for Gillmore Gang videos/drama? - Jonathan Langdale
Ken: the fanboys who put hope in every little detail they can find. The market is based on salesfigures and quarterly results. If there is no iPhone announcement today, it'll come later and the stock will stay the same. - Jackson Pollock
@Adam, checked mine, its down - zephyrlily
When can I unlock my car with an iPhone? - Jesse Stay
Yeah. The keynotes are becoming longer and longer. I miss the short ones. - Michel
WWDC is always 2 hours - Jackson Pollock
have twitlive on the laptop via browser working, no iphone via twit.am - Michael
Car thieves are probably cheering. That's sweet. - Jonathan Langdale
and the last years it has been 1 hour of mac, 1 hour of iphone - Jackson Pollock
Actually the stock used to jump up during keynotes, only in the last 18 months has that pattern changed. - Pete Finlay
@ Jesse when can I unlock your car with an iPhone, better question... now thats some development! - detorn
Have they done anything to nip the Pre in the bud yet? - Ken Sheppardson
No new iPhone? They'd better after this snorefest. - Ryan
Final demo - Michael Mooney
Agreed. - Johnny
So how do you actually start the car on Zipcar? Can it be done through the iPhone? - Michel
think they implied the key was in the car - detorn
Michel I believe he said you just push a key icon and it starts - Jesse Stay
ZipCar website crashed.... not ready for the WWDC response. - Jerry Schuman
Hah... Leo's view of the stream clips off the "Sponsored by DylanCombs.tv" from the top of the image - Ken Sheppardson
This is not an entertainment event. It is a public press conference. As much as you would like it to be, Apple does not. They don't broadcast it on the web, they don't do them as often as they used to, they're not even done by Steve Jobs any longer. - Jackson Pollock
Oh, you unlock it via the app, but I don't see why they couldn't enable you to start it from the app as well - Jesse Stay
Does this raise security issues? (the Zipcar app). Stealing can become a lot easier. - Michel
now i can phone jack to get your car - Michael Mooney
Sure would be nice if Leo could get twit.am back up. I can't listen via my computer (I'm at work and my headphones won't reach to the computer). - Adam Jenkins
Jaskson: You're making excuses. The tech community is watching this with expectations. - Ken Sheppardson
Creating an app for your own car wouldn't be that difficult - you'd just need a bluetooth kit the iphone can talk to - Jesse Stay
And since the jailbreak can insert daemons to change the functionality of apps, it might cause a lot of issues. - Michel
Is there an app for internet drama yet? - Jonathan Langdale
Michael, it's no different than unlocking with a wireless remote - Jesse Stay
@jonathan iFlame is your title, someone else needs to make the app - detorn
Leo or staff can you comment to the possibility of twit.am being back up? Need to take a bio break - Michael
this is the first time i listen to twit live - Alfredo
June 17 - Johnny
June 17th - Michel
2 weeks - Jesse Stay
iPhone OS 3.0 June 17th - Michael Mooney
iPhone 3.0 next week, cool. - Pete Finlay
Forstall wouldn't be the guy to announce a new phone. He's a software guy - Jackson Pollock
Er, one week - Jesse Stay
this with Leo from Twit right? - Alfredo
Perhaps it's finally time for the genius in the room, Ive - Jackson Pollock
LOL at Line6 accessory for iPhone. I mean, this is solution-without-a-problem territory. If you have an electric guitar, you can handle another small piece of gear. - G. Sigh
GMC out today, very cool - detorn
he's there in the front row - Jackson Pollock
Calling the TWiT cottage! Get TWiT.am up! - Thobias Vemmenby
it's time to replace it.... - Jackson Pollock
Time for Steve to hit the stage! - Peter Kruit
no Steve - Jackson Pollock
15 minutes left in the keynote. Time for a phone announcement. - Pete Finlay
Nope on GPS Touch. They need to keep the iphone and touch separate. - Michel
What did he just say about Ovi? - Michel
Call the Tech Guy, he'll fix it ;-) - David Wright from twhirl
in case you didn't know it, Phil is a marketing guy.... - Jackson Pollock
Here we go. - Michel
Oh look... hardware - Ken Sheppardson
don't expect a revolution - Jackson Pollock
S stands for speed - Johnny
Looks like the 3GS rumor was right - Jesse Stay
3GS. - Michel
3GS??? - Ryan
Ken; they just replaced their entire laptop line! - Jackson Pollock
S stands for Steve - Jesse Stay
Gruber was right about the "S" - Pete Finlay
iPhone 3G "S" - super? - Alfredo
Linday : Sarbaans Oxley (sp?) - David Wright from twhirl
S = speed - Michel
I don't see them revamping the design that much. Ive is perfecting it still - Jackson Pollock
S = sick - Jesse Stay
2.1x faster to launch Messages, 2.4x to load SimCity, 3.6x faster to load an Excel attachment, 2.9x faster to load a large website. - MacRumors - Michel
Sarbanes... - David Wright from twhirl
No reason to buy AppleCare on my current phone. I'll just replace it with the 3GS - Ryan
Anyone seen it? - Thobias Vemmenby
Built in 7.2MBps HSDPA for data xfe - Johnny
@Ryan, what will you tell AT&T? - Michel
S stands for same maybe - Jonathan Langdale
Shweet - zephyrlily
I think I missed something due to a streaming refresh. - WazNeeni
3.0Mpixel autofocus camera - Johnny
If they want me to upgrade from my iPhone 3G I hope they've got more than some speed bumps (not important to me in a phone) and camera features and spec I had on my Sony 4 years ago. - bobrudge
So far, many of the rumors are true - Jesse Stay
3MP - Alfredo
Nice. Autofocus camera. Good for barcodes. - Michel
@detorn thanks - Thobias Vemmenby
yes for the cam! - michael sean wright
Parity with the Pre - Ken Sheppardson
this is like the sternfannetwork. they all hate howard - Jackson Pollock
Only 3mp camera? Suppose it depends on the quality of the lens... - David Wright from twhirl
"tap to focus" is a new software feature - Johnny
Wasen't tap to focus a Sony Erricson patent? - Michel
Camera updates are useless without a flash. No chance of focusing on anything in bad light without it. - bobrudge
I wonder if they're going to announce a video app - Jonathan Langdale
good point Geoff - michael sean wright
Loving the new camera on new iphone. - Kim Landwehr
Video - Johnny
VIDEO!!!!! - Alfredo
Video! - Michel
wow on the video!! - michael sean wright
this is where you wonder why they put the SD card in the macbooks - Jackson Pollock
video yeahh - Kim Landwehr
So is it going to launch today, with 3.0? - Jesse Stay
Will we get ShopSavvy on iPhone now? - Thobias Vemmenby
video. 30fps, VGA with audio. Auto focus, auto white balance - Johnny
30fps Not bad. - Michel
Nice. - Tom Landini
meh .. not enough to get me to upgrade - andy brudtkuhl
no way 30fps, thats theoretical - detorn
So close to wanting to get a new one, but AT&T's lack of cooperation is killing me. Still using my 1.0. - Greg
listen to them melt. what did you expect? - Jackson Pollock
since when does Apple bump specs at the end of keynotes? - Jackson Pollock
I will upgrade my iTouch for the speed improvement and video - Jonathan Langdale
i'm gonna say release date is June 17th - Jackson Pollock
VGA video, meh. N95 did that about 2 years ago - Jody Fanning
i agree..... - Roberto Bonini
VGA is 640x480 not too bad..... - Roberto Bonini
Finally - Jesse Stay
Oh crap nice. Voice control. - Michel
can we have skype video chat on iphone now? - Alfredo
Yep, I totally missed the actual announcement when TWiT Live/BitGrav refreshed on me automatically. That sucks. Anyway, can you make phone calls on the new phone? - WazNeeni
twit.am seems to be back up now. - Adam Jenkins
Voice control - Yea - PXLated
Voice dialling...... - Roberto Bonini
@Alredo not if it's on the other side of the iPhone from the display - Jonathan Langdale
Twit.am back up, thanks - Michael
I hope the voice recognition is better than the S-Class Mercedes :D - David Wright from twhirl
Control iPod via voice - Johnny
could smell this coming from the Shuffle upgrade - Jackson Pollock
It'll be very interesting as to what engine they are using for the voice control. - Michel
Nice: control ipod with voice. Good for the gym. - Tom Landini
voice control sounds pretty cool - Kim Landwehr
I've held off on iPhone - Waited for Voice and Tethering - Now have it but damn AT&T - PXLated
voice for itunes! very syncish? ... love the who is playing feature! wow. come on! with genius. - michael sean wright
Voice will be software only, it's in the new shuffle - Jonathan Langdale
I expect a slew of car kits for sale after this - Jesse Stay
people hated the shuffle voice control - Jackson Pollock
Surprised why so many people went wild about the compass? - Johnny
Some guy just shrieked like a girl in the audience when the compass was announced. lol - Michel
Will the voice control work through the inline mic on the headphones? - bobrudge
haha yeah i heard that lol - Alfredo
bobrudge; yes - Jackson Pollock
they've had this on the iPod shuffle for months and months - Jackson Pollock
Still not really sure why a compass is so awesome. Can someone enlighten me, please? - WazNeeni
Support for Nike+, but do any of the us geeks care? :P - Michel
agree, Waz... it is allright... but what's so fantastic - Bas Heetebrij
@WazNeeni To be able to get directional services in Google maps etc. - Thobias Vemmenby
Improved battery life: 9 hours on wifi, 10 watching video, 30 hours of audio playback, 12 hours of 2G talk time, and 5 hours of 3G talk time - Johnny
i can't decide if i want this or a netbook - Alfredo
But compared to what? - Michel
those battery and power engineers they hired are worth their weight in gold today apparently - Jackson Pollock
sweet i can use the compass + gps to map out frisbee golf courses - andy brudtkuhl
Alright you got me how much - Kim Landwehr
what alex is referring to is the green screen usually doesn't handle water/ clear well. amazing g.s. - michael sean wright
and when - Kim Landwehr
how much and when and where? - Bas Heetebrij
price drop would be GIGANTIC! - detorn
omg they need a GPS in iTouch - Jonathan Langdale
$199 - Johnny
I'm gonna say $199 for 16GB on june 17th - Jackson Pollock
OK, when? - Tom Landini
Ohh. Price. - Michel
$199 - Alfredo
$299 for 32GB - Jackson Pollock
is nike+ an app that come with? if so can you delete it lol other stock apps cant be deleted right. - Frankie Warren
32GB $299 - Michel
here we go - 32 gb $299 - michael sean wright
16GB $199 32GB $299 - Alfredo
I'm gonna be paying $400 for that here in Norway - Jackson Pollock
8GB, 99$ - Jackson Pollock
$99 - Johnny
32GB $299 with a 10 year contract with AT&T ? - Jonathan Langdale
nice going apple - Kim Landwehr
$99 for the older 3G iphone - Alfredo
that's the macbook move - Jackson Pollock
Does that mean I can't sell my old 3G for more than I buy the new iPhone any more? - Jesse Stay
agree w/ alex. - michael sean wright
$99 is a great price, but is that with a contract? - Jonathan Langdale
i'm smelling design upgrade since he hasn't shown it yet - Jackson Pollock
Yeah. Really good move. We're seeing Apple really looking at the economy. - Michel
June 19th - Johnny
The upfront price doesn't matter much, it is the contract life price that matters. - Jody Fanning
June 19th - Alfredo
Next week's going to be busy for me - Jesse Stay
June 19th at the store I'll be - Kim Landwehr
hey, screw you Leo - Jackson Pollock
In the USA, Cabndam France, Italy, Spain, UK - Johnny
$99 is bullshit for us that paid $300 for it 6 months ago - andy brudtkuhl
leo - "that's it, not getting the pre." - michael sean wright
shut it, design is up - Jackson Pollock
Gah. What about old iPhone users? I wonder what people in a contract might do. - Michel
@andy always happens to cell phones - detorn
michel? renew? - Jackson Pollock
$99 might make the first really affordable Smart Phone. But is that with contract? - Eoghann Irving
@detorn i know but not that quick - andy brudtkuhl
razor went from 600 to 99 in a year - detorn
Are they going to sell it thru the Apple store? - Kim Landwehr
No front-facing camera - Jesse Stay
So $99 + contract!?!?! what the dillyo - Jonathan Langdale
Or frontal camera as MG calls it - Jesse Stay
Oh stop complaining about the old price. You always know that technology is evolving, getting cheaper and while also more expensive.. - Michel
Jony is happy with his design it seems. - Jackson Pollock
there's a lot of geek love in that room :) - zephyrlily
Leo doesn't think Tablet it a big market? wow.. convergence between cell phone and computers? - Johnny
Will I be able to upgrade from the 3G? If not, I'm okay with that. - Ryan
apple announces they now OWN the phone market - stock moves -2.84 - michael sean wright
Leo didn't think the Intel switch was a good move, Leo didn't have any confidence in the iPhone between launch and release, bla bla bla - Jackson Pollock
Is this the longest keynote ever? - Thobias Vemmenby
Yeah, I just think he should be more aware about some of the things he says. that tablet comment didn't make sense - Johnny
Is there a way I can /ignore Pollock? lol - Jonathan Langdale
Yeah. I think its the longer keynote. But an awesome one. Snow Leopard + awesome laptops + 3GS. - Michel
the real story today is that the guy streaming didn't get caught/thrown out... - detorn
we are paying 600$ for it in India - Varun "Maverick" Pitale
He put his Twitter ID on the stream... - Ken Sheppardson
for those about to stream, we salute you - zephyrlily
@Michel I agree! - Thobias Vemmenby
Jonathan - I agree. Pollock is obnoxious - Johnny
@Lindsay Good point but people look at the upfront price more than the overa ll price. - Michel
Yea, $99 really means nothing if it's an expensive contract. - Jonathan Langdale
I don't think I'll upgrade from 3G for awhile. - Johnny
Given the fact he put his ID on the stream http://twitter.com/dylancombs, Leo, he might appreciate a shout out - Ken Sheppardson
$99 is the apple price, not the at&t price... probably be free with contract - detorn
We love you Steve, hope you get well and come back after the summer! - Thobias Vemmenby
The $99 model wasn't listed as 3GS, just 3G - PXLated
Wait - what was the software being used for the background? - LPH™ and his dog P™
That was fast! Apple.com is updated! - Michel
Conduit - Jackson Pollock
Thank you Jackson - LPH™ and his dog P™
Leo, anything mentioned in the first half of the keynote is OS 3.0. Only features mentioned by Phil at the very end will be 3GS-only. - Adam Jenkins
upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB) - Jayesh
AT&T is top trend on twitter - Jonathan Langdale
So whadya say, Leo? When you send your Pre back next week, what will you buy? - Ken Sheppardson
Iphone 3G White is gone - Jackson Pollock
$99 is a great price, I'm just not so keen on having to shell out $1,000 a year on a phone plan. - Eoghann Irving
Ouch! Entry level 13" MBP $1595 in Germany :( - David Wright from twhirl
But 17" down to "only" $3192 from $3500 earlier today - David Wright from twhirl
you've had a 13.3'' tho, it's called the Macbook or Macbook Air - Jackson Pollock
I still don't understand how you buy an iPhone on 17th with a contract or not. - Jonathan Langdale
Interestingly the small print for the phone prices reads "existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)." - Steve Brady
i wonder when the uk site will get updated, O2 (the carrier) and apples site still normal for me - Charles Greig
So *upgrading* (which usually means at the 18 month point??) is 200 more?? - Steve Brady
$699 + a two-year contract is expensive - Jonathan Langdale
So what's the lowest price plan with the $99 phone for a new customer? - Ken Sheppardson
it's cheap here - Jackson Pollock
What's "cheap"? - Ken Sheppardson
your AT&T prices - Jackson Pollock
No, I mean what does "cheap" mean? $9/mo? $19? - Ken Sheppardson
i think (not sure) $79 a month is the lowest - detorn
it's like $400 bucks with 2 year contract, and $100 a month for a plan with unlimited data here - Jackson Pollock
If I'm honest, I think the Pre has problems in competing on features. I think the N97 from Nokia is closest and better in some aspects. - Bas Heetebrij
Ok, its on the uk apple site now but no prices that i can see :( - Charles Greig
why would i get a netbook with the new phone? - michael sean wright
Leo, you could take questions/comments from the chats in lieu of calls... - Denise Howell
Why would AT&T charge more for upgrading from iPhone 3G? - Tom Landini
It has to be the N97 from Nokia. It has a 5mp camera and It is able to record 16:9 video - Kashif Khan
AT&T are nuts about the upgrading... taking me forever to get the subsidy - detorn
yeah, $99 is not really the actual price is it. I mean, the "$199" iPhone was close to 600EUR if you took the $2/month for 2 year contract with no calls/texts/data plan. If you take any other contract (here in Finland, it's capped at 100MB/month regardless of plan), you end up paying a lot more. - Andy Patel
Upgrade pricing absolutely stinks.. $499 for existing iPhone 3G customers for the 32 gig phone. How much more can AT&T alienate existing customers? I also love how they make it sound liek they're doing me a favor 'because you're a valued customer' - Lon Seidman
So no word about iTouch, this sucks for people that don't want a month plan. - Jonathan Langdale
I'm looking at the new macbook pro prices and the 17" is now $2499. I think that is a lower new price. - Pete Finlay
The iphone ad is up! http://www.apple.com/iphone... - Peter
great coverage! thanks all - michael sean wright
iPod Touch news is usually announced in September so it's ready for the holidays. - Mister IQ
Leo, you must do a MacBreak Weekly with Andy! - Pete Finlay
rogers hasnt either, but after what happened with iphone 3g last year, i expect 3 year contract and a lackluster expensive plan. - mark pompeo
the interesting thing about the voice commands, i suggested that to apple over a year ago though the contact us section, altough i suggest this for the ipod specifically. i expect just a coincidence. they had to add that, almost every phone has voice commands - mark pompeo
sorry to hear that Leo. - michael sean wright
I was really hoping for background apps, and front facing video. Still, seeing all the other stuff makes this a must have device. I am just worried about getting shafted by AT&T in my attempt to get upgraded. - Darrell Bell from twhirl
Sorry Leo, it was a good show...although lost in the ethers... - Bill Frater
thanks for the coverage though leo, we salute you for your efforts - mark pompeo
Yep, great coverage Leo. You have a lot to answer for... I'd refused to Web 2.0, then I found TWiT, now I'm on Twitter, FB and FF, in one weekend! :D - David Wright from twhirl
I'm catching up on TWiT network, must be over 60 hours in the last couple of weeks! NOTE: Don't listen to 8 hours of Security Now back to back! Ended up dreaming I was decrypting files, manually in my sleep! :D - David Wright from twhirl
LOL @David - Roberto Bonini
There is just something soothing about Leo's voice and the TWiT gang are usually hilarious - David Wright from twhirl
did we hear anything about a2dp for the 3G? for the 3GS? - Alan Kroeper
alan, i wasn't watching too closely, but i don't see anything in this chat mentioning it - however there's lots of bluetooth stuff in the 3.0sdk so it might be in there... there's more news to come over the next couple days - Chris Heath
And did iJustine get her orgasm while watching the WWDC or not? - Ryo / Fuck Facebook
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New Blog Post: Feedly Brings New Social Experience to Start Page, Leveraging RSS http://www.louisgray.com/live... @khodabakchian
Everybody should check this out. Even if you're not a Google Reader fan or a typical FireFox user, load FireFox and go to http://www.feedly.com. There's a limited number of downloads of their .xpi plug-in, so it's first come, first serve. - Louis Gray
I was about to pooh-pooh it until I read the part about how if you share it/read it in Feedly, it shares and marks it read in Reader. That's killer. - Mark Trapp
crap. I read this as soon as I leave my computer - Bwana ☠ from fftogo
Thanks Louis, I am checking out http://www.feedly.com looks like a great concept!! How do you find all these cool things? - Susan Beebe
Just started to use it and I am immediately impressed. This just might be my new favorite reader. - Jason Wehmhoener
@Susan, I found Edwin when he first wrote "Listen. Measure. Iterate." back in February. http://tinyurl.com/6crhsz We've been trading e-mail ever since. I didn't say the word Feedly or Feeddo for months. :-) Others have different stories. - Louis Gray
I was trying it with FF 2 for the last 15 minutes. I glossed over the fact (on the feedly home page) that it needs FF3. It seems to install fine on FF2 and does not complain that it needs FF3. Would have been nice if it warned me that it does not run on FF2. In any case, will try it out as soon as I download FF3. - Atul Arora
I grabbed it. I dig it. I will use it. Maybe RSS just needs to be looked at in a different light. - Mathew A. Koeneker
Kinda lame that it's Firefox only, for what I can tell is only so you don't have to feed it your Twitter/Friendfeed/Gmail/etc. credentials. Can't use fluid with it; will probably forget about it. - Mark Trapp
Thanks Louis. I just got the .xpi and trying it out. This might be something! - Kenichi Matsumoto
Frick! NICE! - l0ckergn0me
Dude, I'm all over this freggin site... What a work of genius..my..head..is hurting...from...such...uber - Bwana ☠
Now you tell me, when I'm stuck in the Wal-Mart customer service line. - Phil G from fftogo
Looks nice, but can't do it... I feel like I'm "cheating" on Google Reader. Plus, many things were giving me javascript errors. - Vince DeGeorge
Holy cow. A true glimpse at the future: a user agent. Rockin'. - Chris Baskind
WARNING: Using this added 450 feeds to my gReader!!! Screenshot coming... - Vince DeGeorge
@Vince, it creates folders for "feedly" on Google Reader, but there shouldn't be any duplication of feeds. Are you talking about net new feeds being added, or just them tracking your favorites? - Louis Gray
Ok, it's created three folders, z.feedly.favorites, z.feedly.people, z.feedly.seeded. It wasn't 450 feeds, it was 150 in three folders. http://www.flickr.com/photos... I thought it had caused major problems at first, but it looks manageable. I certainly wasn't expecting it... and scared me at first. - Vince DeGeorge
A warning would be nice from the Feedly folks about this. Not a showstopper, but I think letting the user know will ease the sting of coming on board. - Bwana ☠
Bwana and Vince, I agree. I told Edwin that during the alpha process, and thought it had been resolved. - Louis Gray
@vince, @bwana sorry for the scare. There is a warning about that in the first run page but will work on making it more explicit. Also note that the reason why there is a z.feedly.seeded tag is because we are working on adding an un-install procedure which will completely undo the effect of the feedly welcome wizard. - Edwin Khodabakchian
Excellent - Bwana ☠
Deleted my previous entry when seeing Edwin's response. Edwin, I apologize that I didn't see the warning - I tend to run headlong into things ;). Your quick response from feedback is excellent, which is very important! With that in mind - "no harm, no foul." - Vince DeGeorge
@atul feedly should work on firefox 2 as well. The reason we are pushing for the firefox 3 angle on the website is because we benefit from a lot of the performance optimizations done by firefox (and we are trying to see if we can leverage some of the momentum generated by firefox3 to get the word out). If you run into any problem on firefox 2, please log a ticket on http://www.getsatisfaction/feedly - Edwin Khodabakchian
@Mark Trapp you are right: the reason we have been focusing on firefox so far is that it allows us to do real-time aggregation more securely. It also allows us to off-load a lot of the processing to the client and opens the door to supporting xmpp in the future. I am not that familiar with fluid but will take a look (a couple of our users are using feedly on flock). - Edwin Khodabakchian
@louis. thank you for starting the conversation! - Edwin Khodabakchian
Another user of Fluid here. It supports userscripts, but I'm not sure if it has the sophistication of the Firefox plugin architecture - Bwana ☠
Working with this for the last thirty minutes. Very impressed. I actually like the feeds showing up in Google Reader. Excellent work Edwin. - Henry Burger
Wow, seriously how long has this been in the works? Still figuring out all the things it can do and how easily it does them. Very slick - Andrew Smith
damnit. I have to like it. An idea that I had in the works (the newpaper/magazine style layout) - great work, we'll see how things go. - Tim Hoeck
Wow, I have over 46000 unread articles. - Jason Wehmhoener
@edwink, I was just confused on FF2 as to how I should get started. When I tried it out on FF3, I clicked on the circular rss icon that the extension put on my menu bar. I will look for the same icon on FF2 and give it a spin. If I run into any problems, I will log a ticket. I completely understand the rationale for pushing the ff3 angle. My first impression is very positive. - Atul Arora
just a note, when my FF restarted, I didn't get to see the initial startup page, because I have session restore enabled. It killed the start page. Just look for the circular RSS button next to your address bar. - Tim Hoeck
Edwin, I got to say, I don't really understand your architectural decisions. You make most of the program local, yet you don't utilize your own storage for application data (instead, you insert all of Feedly's info on recommendations and people into my OPML file, which even if you're warning me I completely missed: it's not obvious). Yet, it's browser based, but I can only use a specific version of one browser (and only if I have the add on installed). - Mark Trapp
You've got competing metaphors here: if it's browser based, let me use it anywhere. If it's desktop based, don't force me to use a specific browser, and don't use my existing services as your data storage. - Mark Trapp
fixed. feedly has now a better msg and automated-undo http://edwink.devhd.com/2008... - Edwin Khodabakchian
@mark it is a browser extension to allow us to be more real-time, not have to touch people's credentials and be able to scale better. But it tries to leverage and integrate cloud services so that it feels more integrates and people can roam. - Edwin Khodabakchian
@mark we heard the point about being more explicit about the Google Reader integration and tried to address it today. The one thing to keep in mind is that although feedly is using the Google reader back end, we are not going after the google reader users (if some find it compelling, great) but we are instead to package all that is good in RSS and social sharing and try to see if we can re-invent a better start page for more mainstream users. This is beta1 and we are not yet there but that is our goal - Edwin Khodabakchian
Wow. Well done Edwin. I'm super impressed right now. - nealh
I'm using it since June/July'08 I think and I've always loved it. Nice to finally meet the creator's side after so much pleasure using it. Great review Louis btw, you got it good. ;p I simply didn't know it wasn't widely known. I would've suggested it a long time ago hehe. - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Roger Kondrat
RT @centernetworks: i wish startups would stop getting their users to spam the crap out of twitter for a cheap prize - there are better ways
Rob Diana
Google Begins Their Plan For Desktop Domination - http://regulargeek.com/2009...
Yup,its desktop domination..But they stopped Notebook.Grrr - Igor Poltavskiy
Igor, Notebook was interesting, but I think they missed something there. I am thinking they want bookmarking and annotations but they have not figured out how to fit everything together. - Rob Diana
Google's key is social semantic search not desktop's moves. - Igor Poltavskiy
Andrew Smith
If you're considering a ski vacation to Whistler, you have 1 day left to "Book Early & Save" http://www.whistler.com/winter_...
Cee Bee
and there ya have it folks!
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And here I thought it wasn't about race! LOL?????? - Akiva Moskovitz
haha very good - Nice pic btw :) - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa
Awesome! That pic is full of WIN! - Ladybug Heather
HAHAHAHA - Anna Haro
Whatever happened to having Presidents with beards and muttonchops? - Rob H.
Where did ya find it CeeBee? Is there a High Resolution version? - CW™
LOL it wouldn't so funny if it wasn't so sadly true - Jim Goldstein
Robert, clean shaven faces are considered more trustworthy in the modern aesthetic. Hence most heros in movies are clean shaven and villains have facial hair or scruff. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
NICE - Carmen
Cool! - Farshid
Thanks Brandon - CW™
I'd like to see what this looks like converted to black and white. =D - jerry
would love a credit on this...anybody? - martin ollman
I need a framed copy of this in the worst way. - Jason Toney
This is cool! - Steve Chou
Damn "Liking" it, I'm "feelin it" - Terence
Muttonchops are the best thing ever. I also like how Obama is smiling (very well illustrated I think). - Will Higgins™
I give him 6 months before he has white hair - Amit Morson
amit he already has a few shades of grey, which i don't remember him having even a year ago. its incredible what this kind of job does to a person - Cee Bee
Very nice. - Anthony K. Valley ©
Cee Bee: What's your source for this image? The world wants to know. - Anthony K. Valley ©
a friend sent it to me. i've since found the source. there's an even higher resolution version on the site: http://www.patrickmoberg.com/ - Cee Bee
Awesome! Thanks - Anthony K. Valley ©
That just makes me tear up to see. Thank you! - Karen Mohler
lol, didn't see this Ceebee apologies - Zee.
this is being talked about in the FFundercats Podcast http://www.ffundercats.com/2008... - johnpiercy
MG Siegler
iPhone 2.2 update due in a week and a half? http://venturebeat.com/2008...
Super like - Roberto Bonini
RAPatton
Oxford compiles list of top ten irritating phrases - Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
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"A top 10 of irritating expressions has been compiled by researchers at Oxford University., Heading the list was the expression 'at the end of the day', which was followed in second place by the phrase 'fairly unique'. The tautological statement "I personally" made third place – an expression that BBC Radio 4 presenter John Humphreys has described as "the linguistic equivalent of having chips with rice." Also making the top 10 is the grammatically incorrect "shouldn't of", instead of "shouldn't have". The phrases appear in a book called Damp Squid, named after the mistake of confusing a squid with a squib, a type of firework." - RAPatton from Bookmarklet
At the end of the day... Heh, sure is overused where I work - Mo Kargas
At the end of the day, I absolutely find this a fairly unique list of irritating phrases, but with all due respect, I personally think it's a nightmare to avoid using them 24/7. At this moment in time I know It's not rocket science, and shouldn't of used them as much as I have, but I am what I am. - RAPatton
/me slaps RAP around a bit with a large trout - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Excellent, RA Patton! Will you be my leader? :) - Anthony K. Valley ©
Absolutely, Anthony, there would be a great synergy! - RAPatton
Yes, RAPatton, I know that we could leverage your skills, utilizing this language to facilitate taking over the world! Ugh. - Ladybug Heather
...I know what hubby is getting for Christmas this year - will keeping him exclaiming well into New Year. - WorldofHiglet
I personally think it's a nightmare when people use shouldn't of / should of. With all due respect, it absolutely gets on my nerves. At the end of the day it's not rocket science. - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I'm so slow :( RAP beat me 2 it - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Robert Scoble
They have Cold Stone Creamery in China. One difference? They juggle the ice cream in the air for you. I'm still trying to figure out the difference between China and US. Other than some web sites don't work, not much.
Hmm does the ice cream have melamine in it though? - Brian Sullivan
Pics! - Spencer
Interesting - isn't it true that a majority of Asians (a majority of the world in fact) is lactose intolerant? - Brian Sullivan
A majority of Chinese are lactose intolerant and most don't even know it. Milk is for cows. Period. - Carolyn Chan
take your time: there's four or five thousand years more historical development there. - tom matrullo
I didn't bring my camera, but it looked pretty much like the American one. Brian, don't know. - Robert Scoble
Are you loving China? Isn't is fascinating! - Francine Hardaway
Brian: I don't know if the ice cream had melamine in it, but I doubt it. - Robert Scoble
please tell me you have video of chinese kids juggling ice cream in cold stone creamery... - Chris Hollander
wikipedia "The frequency of decreased lactase activity ranges from nearly 5% in northern Europe to more than 90% in some Asian and African countries" - Stowe Boyd
Chris, sorry, I didn't bring my camera equipment to dinner. - Robert Scoble
Are you/did you get jetlag? The Chinese love touristy things like Cold Stones as much as anyone. I had the same Melamine thought Brian did too! Also, I hear raw vegetables are pretty much out, as in some places they fertilize with human waste.Other then that though, I would love to try all the great food I'm sure you'll get to see. - Will Higgins™
Robert. I was in Shanghai in September. I had my mind blown away by the number of myths I held that were destroyed as a result. If you get a chance make sure you go to Hangzhou for a walk. - Jon-Paul Bussoli
Carolyn -- my understanding is that most of northern European descent (and descendants of a few other herding peoples around the world) are lactose tolerant as adults. Most infants everywhere are also lactose tolerant to age 4 as well. The cheese/milk related diets around the world came to prominence because of the imperialism of northern Europeans. - Brian Sullivan
The food in Shanghai is too sweet for me. - Jauder Ho
Oh, and here's a good sign of what's different in China. http://bit.ly/j64K - Jauder Ho
@Scoobie, this is a more profound comment than ANYTHING you said about politics. It also happens to be true. China rocks. Stick to your knitting. - Morgan Warstler
Will: I have had very little jet lag. Gregory: we talked at length about melamine tonight. If you eat at Western Restaurants most of their ingredients have been imported, so risk is low. Of course, if I drop dead in a week you know the truth. :-) - Robert Scoble
Morgan: hey, I predicted the political outcome quite accurately long before it happened and made $200 as a result. Politics and tech are pretty intertwined, so you'll hear more, although I'll try to keep it down to a minimum. I'm pretty tired of talking about politics. Oh, except, EVERYONE I meet here is an Obama fan, which is driving my producer batty because he supported McCain. I think it's quite funny. - Robert Scoble
Robert: don't be a wuss, eat out - the best places to eat are the local shops, especially the dirty ones'. Go eat of the street food. - clarke thomas
clarke: I will, although Rocky isn't into it. Last time I was here I got very sick at a Microsoft dinner, so there! (then I went to work for them which got back at them, I'm sure! Heheh). - Robert Scoble
genieyclo: the myth is partially correct. You need to be careful of where you eat here and avoid some foods. So far so good. - Robert Scoble
@robert, not even a cameraphone? you've changed... its like i don't even *know* you anymore!?!?! - Chris Hollander
Chris: my cameraphone has a dead battery. I forgot my other camera, sorry. - Robert Scoble
i can confirm Robert has very little jet lag. he only knocked out for a little while in the cab yesterday. heh. it's a ton of fun having him and Rocky in China. - Christine Lu
How many people have you seen that are overweight? I guess not many. That'll be a big difference between the countries. - Toby Graham
Toby: not many overweight people are here, but more than last time. The country is getting wealthier and is importing more western eating habits. The kids are overweight here, too, albeit not at same rates as US ones. - Robert Scoble
genieyclo: You do have to be careful. In places like China or Mexico, locals have built up immunities to bacteria that you may not necessarily have. So no street food unless you want to chance being very very sick. - Jauder Ho
My friend from Beijing always cautioned when eating in China, "don't eat any meat without a back bone in it." hmmm - Susan Beebe
if you tip them will they sing like in the U.S. stores? - Randy Ksar from twhirl
Randy: yes they do sing. It's just like US. - Robert Scoble
Robert: In English? - Carolyn Chan
Bret Taylor
xkcd - Election - http://xkcd.com/500/
xkcd - Election
The alt text on this one is awesome too. - Jason Chen
Thanks for pointing out the alt-text. It's funnier than the comic. - Piaw Na
This was already happening on the news last night. Gotta talk about SOMEthing, right? - Josh Haley
Didn't know xkcd had bonus alt text until Jason Chen alerted me in this thread. Thx. - Andrew Meyer
JASON CHEN FROM GIZMODO????? no. i'm soooo let down. - TUFTSMANIA
Duncan Riley
Black Man Given Nation's Worst Job | The Onion - America's Finest News Source - http://www.theonion.com/content...
WTF is up with that headline? - Mona Nomura
just the Onion doing its thing... - Zee.
Mona...humor? - Hutch Carpenter
None at the moment, Hutch. LOL - Mona Nomura
"It just goes to show you that, in this country, a black man still can't catch a break." - B. Hatin
"The job comes with such intense scrutiny and so certain a guarantee of failure that only one other person even bothered applying for it." - Shawn Farner
the onion is the best - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
always love the onion - cjmart
MG Siegler
Finally voted
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Sent from my iPhone 3G - MG Siegler from email
Where do we get this shirt? :-) - Louis Gray
something is wrong with friendfeed. i can only "like" this once - Mickipedia
dual like noted Micki - MG Siegler
@louis at the awesome store. - MG Siegler
Ontario Emperor
How Obama is to the right in an Australian sense - http://www.duncanriley.com/2008...
This observation about Obama being relatively right also applies to Britain, France and Canada as well. - Jon-Paul Bussoli
RAPatton
Return to sender: Artist puts Royal Mail to the test - http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...
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"We may be living in the era of the email, but one young illustrator has proved that the art of correspondence is far from dead. While working for her degree at Glasgow School of Art Harriet Russell decided to find out exactly what lengths the men and women of the Royal Mail were willing to go to to ensure the safe delivery of her missives. To put them to the test she concealed the addresses of 130 letters to herself in a series of increasingly complex puzzles and ciphers. Among the disguises she employed were dot-to-dot drawings, anagrams and cartoons. The answer, it seems, was very far indeed. Amazingly, only 10 failed to complete their journey back to her." - RAPatton
Wow!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
Meanwhile, my mail doesn't get delivered if it has my name spelled wrong. - Nine
I collected old letters when I was a kid. Fascinating to see how much less info was needed in the past (a) no zip code (b) no street address (c) no city. Imagine when a letter would arrive if addressed to "John Smith, Massachusetts". - Mitchell Tsai
I love the little notes on the card. :) - Yolanda
I know Harriet ! Cool she's on friendfeed :) - William Stewart
That is *really* freaking cool! - David Adam
i bet they enjoyed the change, at the sorting office - perhaps an excuse to take a coffee break to figure things out :D - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
The little map is better directions than a straight address :P - Michael W. May
Probably it only took the mail clerks 10 tries to understand that the address is the same every time when they encounter a puzzle-clad envelope :) - 9000
I love stories like this - Jon-Paul Bussoli
ROFL! "Corner shop that sells a lot of porno mags"! - Michael Forian
MG Siegler
The Outfit
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Sent from my iPhone 3G - MG Siegler from email
hot. - Derrick
haha i was right (kind of :-) - Jess Lee
let's put a smile on that face! - MG Siegler
Imagining somebody asking a patient "Why so serious?" in this outfit... - Kamath (नमः)
creepy! - Jon-Paul Bussoli
[unlike] - B. Hatin
thanks for the nightmares... - Far
Nice tights, MG. - Louis Gray
Mmm, pretty. You busy tonight, sugar? lol - Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Try as you might -- even in a sexy nurse outfit -- I just can't find Molly Ringwald attractive. - Rob Reed
amazing amazing amazing. - drew olanoff
Josh Haley
F-15 lands without a wing - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Don't try this at home - Josh Haley from Bookmarklet
unbelievable. pretty powerful example of how important belief is in accomplishing something as well - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Talk about betting your life on something, huh - Josh Haley
Say "thank you" to your Aeronautical Engineers people, we build 'em. - Will Higgins™
Amazing! - Sweyn Venderbush
Unbelievable! - Roger Chen
Belief wouldn't help a lot without a bucketfull of thrust and computer flight control. :-) - Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Scott Beale
So if you were forced to choose between going to see Dane Cook or Carrot Top, which one would you pick?
Poking out of the eyeballs. - Carla Thompson
A rifle in my mouth with my big toe on the trigger. - cecily
Christ, isn't that like against the Geneva Conventions or something? - Victor Ganata
Dane Cook. - ♥patricia♥
i have no idea who dane cook is, though i've heard his name a lot. y'all ain't selling him. - Anika
Sophie's Choice - Derrick
Now there's a death match I'd pay to see... - Jay Cuthrell
A lobotomy. -
Dane Cook. - Rochelle
That's like having to choose between jumping off a cliff or jumping off a cliff. - Glen Campbell, B.A.
Carrot Top. Dane Cook is to comedy what bubonic plague is to sex. - Akiva Moskovitz
Carrot Top. Dude is chiseled. Might be afraid of him pounding on me for going to see someone else. - Julian
Mike Doeff
Griffin in his Whinnie the Pooh costume - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Griffin in his Whinnie the Pooh costume
Richard Chen
This is 1987 calling. Can we have our stock market crash back?
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gordon gecko! : ) great costume, richard!! - Jess Lee
GREAT costume :) - Bret Taylor
Thanks! Having a very tough time explaining to kids, however. - Richard Chen
lol i just noticed the enormous cell phone : ) - Jess Lee
Excellent hair! Are you wearing an extra battery pack? - Bill Sodeman
key question - where did you get that phone? - Charles Hudson
Hahahaha....good un :) - Kamath (नमः)
You don't know preferred stock from livestock! - Matt
very funny. love the "power wig" - Cee Bee
Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Little dude's first Halloween!
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hehe thank you! he did - if for no other reason than the fact that he had a tail and a pair of ears for most of the day lol - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
awww... :)) - Anna Haro
Wow, my friend's first born wore the same costume today. Tigger is popular - Terence
@terence between tigger and poo bear you'd be hard pressed to convince me there are cuter costumes in existence for babies - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
OMG LOVE - Mona Nomura
Quite the cutie!1! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
cutteeeeee - johnpiercy
Matt Cutts
Here's my 2008 Halloween Costume: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog...
You really need to click through to get the full Rick Astley Halloween costume experience. - Matt Cutts
Something is broken at http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ now in firefox, no sidebar, no other posts. Works fine in IE however. - John Honeck
Awesome! - Paul Buchheit
@John I think the audio embed is breaking it (also in Chome it breaks) - Jorge Escobar
Yup, I couldn't find a trivial way to embed that worked in Firefox and Chrome, but it's worth it to get the audio for a day. - Matt Cutts
Matt Cutts
Ah, I forgot to pre-debunk the "Dude, Google claims that they own everything you do in Chrome!" conspiracy. Debunked that last night in a Mashable comment and then again this morning: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... . Sheesh.
Chromium snapshots: http://build.chromium.org/buildbo... (the license is BSD) - Ionut
I also debunked this in my "common Chrome conspiracy theories" post at http://bit.ly/3CLLwe too. - Matt Cutts
Thanks for setting us straight Matt! - Anne Haynes
When we are discussing legal documents, it's the verbiage that matters, not the intent. As long as clauses 11.1 and 11.2 are in the EULA, they have full effect. - Franci Penov
that is how Mozilla reads it and why they are not scared - Fred Grott
I have a feeling they actually launched Chrome too early and simply did not have time for such a stupid legal thing. Unfortunately for a company attracting attention like Google does it is something to avoid. - Svetlana Gladkova
why all the google bashing? Chrome SHOULD be a more secure browser than FF when Google is finished.. isn't it still in beta? hello? - paisley from twhirl
Yes Matt, but then why the legal language that says otherwise in the TOC? What Google say and what they did are two different things here and the law upholds what is written. - Sally Church
Most times I'm really glad I'm not in Matt's shoes. Other times i think it would be pretty neat to have 'a view' at the Plex :) - Charlie Anzman
Sally Church, that's why I'm glad we changed the TOS/EULA. - Matt Cutts
Paul Buchheit
Tiny new feature: Twitter #things are now links.
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Unfortunately I forgot who requested this... - Paul Buchheit
Interesting that it does a Twitter search on the word with the #.. I was expecting this to take me to hashtags.org. Multiple possibilities I suppose. - Matt Hooper
Cool. Thanks! (It wasn't me who requested it...) - Lisa L. Seifert
Would hashtags.org make more sense? Twitter search seems more comprehensive. - Paul Buchheit
I agree with having it use Summize. - Hao Chen
@Paul no, hashtags.org not necessarily more sensible, no. Instinctively that was what I was expecting, thassall :) On looking at the search results via Twitter (Summize) search I realise now that this is in effect replacing the use of hashtags.org for keyword tracking anyway. - Matt Hooper
just tried it and it didn't work. Any instructions out there? - Vincent van Wylick
Vincent, it looks like your link worked (http://friendfeed.com/e... ), unfortunately twitter search seems to be down at the moment :( - Paul Buchheit
It worked for me mere seconds ago... - Lisa L. Seifert
Dang... Maybe I broke it. :-( - Lisa L. Seifert
Thanks Paul :) - Harun Baris Bulut
Summize also works, although instinctively I was with Matt - Deepak Singh
finally!! - Dieter Schwarz
Mark Trapp
Photography of the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremonies - http://gizmodo.com/5034813...
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From Gizmodo: "While we're waiting until tonight to see NBC's delayed rebroadcast of the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games, we can show you some of the most beautiful images from the event. An incredible full-field scroll, projection sphere and LED suits transcend to create what looks to have been one of the, if not the, most stunning mass displays of lighting technology in history." - Mark Trapp from Bookmarklet
I watched it live and it was brilliant. I didn't understand most of what the dancing and jumping around represented but the pyrotechnics and the lighting of the torch were spectacular. And my favourite part as always was the marching past of all the the different teams. - Rahul Das
Like like like. Can't wait to watch this tonight. @Rahul no one ever understands the dancing and jumping around but they're guaranteed to be in every opening ceremony. : ) - Carla Thompson
it's totally ridiculous that we couldn't watch this live here in the usa. we need commercials during prime time to keep us busy - Cee Bee
Cee Bee, you just hit on why I stopped watching the Olympics. It is all taped and prepackaged by the most annoying sports bureau on earth. Give it to ESPN and let them run it all live and would watch again - RAPatton
rapatton - you BRETT FAVRE cna say BRETT FAVRE with a straight BRETT FAVRE face that ESPN BRETT FAVRE isn't the most annoying BRETT FAVRE sports bureau on BRETT FAVRE earth? - Richard Lawler from twhirl
Just watched it live and recorded it using SageTv. It is brillaint!!! I agree with RAPatton that good coverage is essential - the BBC did a excellent job. - Roberto Bonini
That was fast!! - Roberto Bonini
Saw it too. AMAZING. And the torch/cauldron lighting--a must see. Stunning. I can't wait to see it tonight on my HD TV - Andrew Leyden
I wish I could see it in HD. I'm away from home now. Does anybody know if it'll be replayed later or if someone will have a torrent up with an HD version? - Brandon Titus
+1000 for the torch lighting. These guys seriously know how to put on a show - Josh Haley
Leo Laporte
I was able to revive the iPhone with a hard restore. Wonder how often I'm going to have to do this?
Hopefully not often :-/ I'm looking at getting an iphone this sunday for the first time, but with stories like this i'm mildly reluctant. - Shaun Bevill
reminds me of my days with my pocket pc. the pretty to look at ipaq 4350. the problem was it'd dump all my data when it crashed and the only way back was a hard restore. - sean808080
It seems with these smart phones the more apps you install the more unstable they get. - Steve Helder from twhirl
more you install the more unstable they get? Sounds like the average Windows PC! - Ian May from twhirl
A lot of iPhone apps guys are saying v. 2.0 of the software was rushed and that v 2.1 (due very shortly) should be much more stable. - Andrew Leyden
Never had such problem before 2.0 on my 2G iphone. The thing is jailbroken 1.4 iphone was a lot more stable than current 2.0 one. It rarely crashed and had very little lags. Apple needs to learn from hacking community I guess. - Inksim
Mine is throwing "No SIM card installed" errors. Going to try a restore but I'm betting I need a replacement... - Lisa McMillan
before I bought my first Nokia's top-of-th-line smartphone back in 1995 I had thought that Symbian rocks, but it failed me many times including crashing while having phone conversation! - Pajama Domain from twhirl
opps I meant 2005 :) - Pajama Domain from twhirl
Many people are reporting that a hard restore and starting from scratch fixes the problems. So far so good on my phone. - Leo Laporte
Karma got you Leo. You told Belmont that your phone was fine when she was bemoaning her iPhone woes. - Jeff Jones
Too many apps? Also I only had a few hundred MB free. We'll see! - Leo Laporte
I tweeted back, it sounds like a software refresh coming for the early adopters. Apple shipped too quick without giving them a beating like we would.. hmm blog posting coming - Chris Miller
I had to do it a couple times with my iPhone 2G. I also had it get into some sort of crazy infinite loop once the screen wouldn't go off and it got blazing hot. I left it on my lap hoping it would catch fire, instructing those around me to have their camera's and lawyers cell numbers readily available. - Geoff Schultz
Remember when you didnt have to restore phones? - Will from Alert Thingy
I predict 2 years...coincidentally the same length as your service contract. :P - Stresa from twhirl
Not often! oh btw i love twitter in the i check out .. Twitter/pickensplan - Bearclawcoffee
I'm not keeping count, but it's a lot more with 2.0 software than before. My unreliable impression: it used to be every few months. Now it's every few days. (on first gen HW) - Michael Markman
I'm having problems with 2G w/ 2.0 that I think are MobileMe related, yesterday push contacts stopped working for awhile, today I'm not getting email - Robert Hafer
Mine hung this morning as I was trying to power it down. Right after syncing some new apps via tether. Holding down the home and power buttons for a few seconds seemed to reset it. Hope Apple stabilizes this soon. - wrecks
Logging into MobileMe fixed my problems both times - Robert Hafer
How is the cpu and speed of the new iphone, is it faster compared to the old one? - Thomas
It looks like I'm going to have to do it too. I only had four apps on my phone, but my 3G isn't working properly (returning mysterious error messages) and after an hour with tech support and a call to apple the only solution offered is a hard restore. - Briana Tomkinson
Shaun I think most people having problems were upgrading from 2G iPhones. The 3G is my first and Ive had no problems other than the rare crash - Paul Reynolds
Leo, I think you are right about upgrading apps via wireless, I just tried and it broke the app. The iPhone switched from wi-fi to edge during update. - Robert Hafer
I'm leaving on a 10 day trip and mine better not act up while I'm gone from my synching computer!! - Shayna from StumbleRead
Hutch Carpenter
Off for a Week’s Vacation - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...
Have fun! - Mark Trapp
Enjoy your vacation Hutch! - Mike Fruchter
I'm jealous! Enjoy! - Justin Korn
Thanks guys. I may check in here a bit, assuming my spiffy new iPhone gets 3G in Oahu. - Hutch Carpenter
Whee! Find the sun. :-) - Chris Baskind
Have a great time! -
Good Times!!! - Anna Haro
Have fun and come back with some photos :) - Sudar
Oahu .... ahhhh. Have fun man - Charlie Anzman
I won't like it.... because I am jealous :) Enjoy! - Tim Hoeck
vacation? what's that again? - Duncan Riley
Have a great time! - Mitchell Tsai
Enjoy the break Hutch! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Have a great trip Hutch! - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Congrats and Enjoy!! - Susan Beebe
Awesome!! Have a great time. :-) - Corie
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