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I'd like to reiterate my call for Facebook to open source the Friendfeed codebase (as AOL did when it bought Netscape). A federated OpenFriendfeed is the best for users - and fits Facebook's move toward an open social platform. I'll pay to run a server. Would you?

August 11, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

AJ Kohn, Carlton Hackett, Jimminy, CoG of FF and 211 other people liked this

I agree with this fully. - Akiva

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I can't imagine that the terms of the acquisition would permit this to happen. Oh, wait... Facebook take FriendFeed open source? Maybe in two or three years after they squeeze every bit of life out of it, ala Google/Jaiku - Ken Sheppardson

Would that mean there would be dozens of Friendfeeds all trying to get us to come to them? - Mark

I support this fully - Ryan

yes what about a free GAE - abdellah

Oh I agree. But with Facebook's record? HAHAH! Oh god, I need a mint. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

I'll file this away under "Never Gonna Happen"... - Andrew Terry

Jaiku is not dead. It was bought for a reason, and yes, it will resurface soon. you just wait n see. - binmugahid

yes - andy brudtkuhl

I agree with Andrew... - Suril Amin

I don't think I'd pay, but I'd love to have it open source - Jake Anderson

Worked for AOL. We got Mozilla and they got a much improved Netscape. - Leo Laporte

Leo, I think you have a little too much "hope" on this. Maybe you're just thinking if Facebook was smart, then they'd do that. - Mark

Facebook is much smarter than you're giving them credit for. I think. - Leo Laporte

great idea Leo, i'm 'cautiously optimistic' at this point in time about the future of FriendFeed... lets hope for the best people - Chris Heath

There is no value in that to them. Why open source something that give them a competitive edge. - binmugahid

I do not agree. It destroyed netscape. let Facebook use the best features of FriendFeed in it. Keep the talent like the four ex-google founders. Open source is not the answer to everything. sometimes Closed Source is better for the users as well. Just keep the innovations coming and it will be fine - hasanahmad

They've got the Friendfeed team. That's probably what they really wanted. Getting the open source community working on the FF codebase and contributing it back to Facebook is a win for everyone. - Leo Laporte

On the other hand, I ike to see Laconica (identi.ca) getting more like ff. - Chanux

Wow did this just happen today? - bravestface

yesterday - Chris Heath

Open-sourcing Communicator may have ultimately destroyed Netscape as a brand but without that move, I suspect we'd all still be developing for IE6. Great call, Leo. - Jared Smith

Excellent idea Leo. - Arawak

I just can't stand Facebook. To many people I let in from my youth that I don;t want to see - bravestface

Yes. - .LAG liked that

You're assuming that Facebook bought the company JUST to get the developers, and not because they want to integrate many/most of the features into their service. If they want the features, they don't want a bunch of clones competing with them. - Joel Bennett

I'll send you a hefty donation for that Leo. - JCunwired

bravestface: That's not FB's fault you let them in. sheesh. - Gus

when will twitter be back up any 1 know - daveccorey

There already is an open source clone of twitter - see identi.ca and laconia or whatever it's called - Doug Holton

True. very True Gus. My own fault. Perhaps I need to setup an Alias account that encompasses what i really want - bravestface

I already run a Laconica server at http://army.twit.tv - I don't think we need another Twitter clone. We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer. - Leo Laporte

hay hay hay, sin duda un tema un tanto escabrozo, pero entre Facebook y Google, esto no lleva a nada bueno.. i'ts a hard theme, no doubt about that, but between facebook and google we are going to hell !!!!!! - Đoи яамoη

Or Pushbutton? - bravestface

This would be amazing. - Adam Teece

The Wave *protocal* might be a part of the answer... or just giving yourself over to whatever Google wants you to use might work (i.e. Wave, Reader, Gtalk, etc.)... but I don't really see Wave asdirect 1-for-1 FF replacement. - Ken Sheppardson

Too many systems in place - bravestface

They open sourced the Facebook code base (fbopen)... the license is very restrictive, however. FB owns all code modifications. Probably be the same license for FF. - Kurt

In know people that have replaced their email with Twitter....that just isn't right...we need one locator that many systems can reach - bravestface

Great idea Leo. Now let's see what they do, if they're listening. - Kelly Mitchell

Leo - your last comment is why I think Facebook bought Friendfeed: "We need something more like Friendfeed. Or maybe Wave will be the answer." This is going to be a product they will launch in opposition of Google Wave. It will surface Q1 of 2010 and will have some of the same features that Wave has - but be closed sourced to Facebook. - Jeff Vreeland

I see what you mean. Facebook and Google though don't really open source their web apps - Doug Holton

Facebook doesn't seem to have a good reputation with those kind of thing. Facebook promised to open their chat/IM system via XMPP. More than a year has passed since they announced this XMPP system it still did not happen. We still have to rely on screen-scraping methods to implement Facebook chat on third-party IM systems (like the 3rd party Facebook chat plugin for pidgin called pidgin-facebook). - Gideon Guillen

I would love to see friendfeed become opensource. Mostly as a developer I would love to see the code. See how friendfeed works. - mikemcmullan

An "open FriendFeed" could be Facebook's chance to get something lined up to compete with Google Wave. Without it, Google and Twitter are going to own the real-time communication space. - Derek Gathright

Completly agree! - Jamie-Lee Mclean-Davis from Nambu

Open source is the way to so that "The poeple" can do what they want or to a program. E.I. www.Openssourcemaps.com - D Lets from iPhone

Absolutely. - Ian Littman

OS FF would be awesome, but making it a federated service is an entirely different ball of wax. Just ask the Wave guys. They said during the original IO presentation that federation was one of the harder parts (though FF would be easier w/o the real time editing piece, but still). - Patrick Sullivan

OS FF - Malcolm Bastien

I think a integrated RSS/FB/FF/GW/Twitter client will be an interesting real time inflection point - Jim Posner

I totally agree Leo. I can't help but think that this deal is going to be a massive success or a massive flop - nothing in the middle! It's simple things like opening the FF source that can help make it a massive success IMHO. - Chris Cathcart

correction: Http://www.openstreetmap.org - D Lets from iPhone

I would just like to see the real-time commenting open-sourced. - patrick

wow Leo you sure know how to get a topic started - Joe Geeting

I actually was hoping Twitter would be the one to grab it up. Seems like a natural progression for Twitter to make. I just hope Facebook doesn't bury it and they actually use it. As far as open source it? Could be interesting. - Michael Bower

In a secure and closed environment it could be a powerful communication/collaboration tool for businesses. Features of a chat, but persistent. Ability to share photos & files... - Ken Bauer

definently - Ryan Peach

Right-o - Myrddin Emrys

I would love for this to happen. Federated Friendfeed servers would be quite fun and is the logical step for a great Internet service which aggregates disparate information from all over. - rob friedman

You know what, Jaiku was open sourced. And nobody uses it anymore. The fact that "it" (FB open sourcing FF) will happen or not is completely irrelevant. Because you will all be hopping on the next early adopter miracle train (read:service) anyway. So stop whining and move on. Federated this, federated that. identi.ca tried that. Again, no users. It's nice to talk the talk. Especially at times like this. You just gotta walk the darn walk afterwards. Which people usually forget to do. - Vlad Bobleanta

Whoa... you should enhance your calm. Communities are finicky things and sources like Microsoft that are poo-pooing Open Source IMHO is the real problem. Me thinks that a better source of education to dissipate the FUD floating in the global porcelain bowel instead of modern political tactics are are needed to solve real problems. - Myrddin Emrys

Leo, like this idea. - Kol Tregaskes

adoption of open standards such as OMB, which is used by laconica, would allow federation among servers - Mike Chelen

It will one hell of a start, I doubt it though... - Dobromir Hadzhiev

It would be a good thing, but not sure it it will ever happen - Thomas Lee

I support this as well. - Carlos Ayala

Now this is something I would fly out to support at the launch... - Johnny

Another reason why Leo kicks ass - Mo Kargas

If FriendFeed went open source identi.ca / lamonica would be dealt a serious blow. FriendFeed could become even more powerful if the people could tinker with the code and add many features that remain missing, or strengthen features that currently are weak. It will be interesting to se how FB utilizes their newest acquisition... - Randy Shapiro

FYI, there's already an open source alternative: http://www.fftogo.com/e... - Marcos Marado from fftogo

absolutley ;) - Kenneth Reitz

i would pay - cheapsuits

ive all ready got a amp for 5 bucks 4 twitter that was suspsose to help twitter run better guess what it dont - daveccorey

no definitely not. it would shift everything to Chinese government... Damn, millions would have their rest life in prisons. - xia

http://kennethreitz.com/blog... - Kenneth Reitz

Any chance we'll see more code? - Ken Sheppardson

i'm willing to wait to see what F8 brings... have you seen Jesse Stay's speculative post Ken? - Chris Heath

Mark Trapp to Mark's feed, FriendFeed Feedback

Feature Request: provide a way to export all of our data out of FriendFeed before it's merged into Facebook.

August 10, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Kol Tregaskes, Mathew A. Koeneker, David Cook and 25 other people liked this

And secure account deletion plz. - matthew john ernisse

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Yeah, I'd like to get my FF posts out. - Yolanda

http://ff.im/6pHjo Yes. Also, can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. - Mitchell Tsai

:( - edythe from iPhone

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This is about as clear an excuse as I have found for getting moved over to Gmail finally... #postcrash

July 30, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Shailesh Nalawadi, Kol Tregaskes, Jannifer @wordsforliving and 16 other people liked this

I'm leaving. Hopefully this is fixed when I get back. - Louis Gray

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I hate Mail.app for that reason. I had one of those that kept crashing as it was trying to re-import. - Jesse Stay

Although the slowness of Gmail is making me want to re-consider MobileMe - Jesse Stay

pc 4life - Allen Stern

Louis, I dumped Mail.app ages ago for similar reasons after moving from Exchange to Gmail. Have you looked at Mailplane yet? http://mailplaneapp.com/ I generally use Gmail on the web, but when I looked at Mailplane, it wasn't bad. - Kevin C. Tofel

gmail on mail.app = NOT very good and I am so used to GMail UI that i cannot work on Mail.app (despite threading enabled). Mailplane is good especially to manage multiple gmail accounts. - kartik vaithyanathan

LG: why don't you move to SL? it will perform a database upgrade on mail though and NO going back to L though after that. - kartik vaithyanathan

Holden, yes, extremely. Occasionally it speeds up, but it's really turning me off. - Jesse Stay

I'm like Glen -- only I use Evolution (OpenSolaris and Linux). IMAP + a bazillion well-thought-out filters + an old school desktop client works great for me. - Joanmarie

That's gotta be a slow walk to get more coffee (my test of how long things take on my computer) - anna sauce

Actually Gmail is pretty fast for me, even with a 3G connection. I hope this doesn't change. - Oliver Bouchard from iPhone

never happened to me, despite so much 'mail' from friends - Amit 'zyaada' Mittal

i'd just #blamedrewscancer for a couple of years, Gmail! ugh! - Amit 'zyaada' Mittal

Leo Laporte

Could You be Hacked Like Twitter? - PC World - http://www.pcworld.com/article...

July 20, 2009 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

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Pay special attention to secondary e-mail accounts connected to your primary e-mail address; consider giving a bogus answer (that only you remember) to security questions; and regularly change your passwords, either by your own invention or with a random password generator like GRC or Strong Password Generator. You could also get away from using just one or two passwords, and use password managers like Clipperz, KeePass or Yubico to remember your details instead. But perhaps most importantly, search for the most common passwords you use in your own webmail accounts and delete those messages. If the worst happens and your account is compromised, you'll be glad you did. - Leo Laporte

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goos to have you back leo. marquitux from argentina - marcos

Don't forget that there is also Stanford's https://www.pwdhash.com/ - Adrian James Chung

I use 1Password to manage my 300+ passwords. - George Brickner

Leo Laporte to Leo's feed, TWiT Conversations

Live now: coverage of the Apple WWDC keynote with iJustine, Alex Lindsay, Andy Ihnatko and Leo Laporte. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...

June 8, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

LPH™ and his dog P™, Simon Wicks, Charlie Anzman and 63 other people liked this

live audio http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - detorn

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Thank you Leo - Erle Stride

Amazing. I watched this pop up and get liked in less than 5 seconds. - Scott Ohlemacher

leo stickam is still down - steve

Makes me feel like I live in the future. - Scott Ohlemacher

Let's get this show on the road. - Mister IQ

Now they're slamming Vista - Simon Tracey

Keynotetweets.com is awesome site, make sure he gets credit Leo! - Michael

No info on when these new macbooks will be out in the UK? - Alan (Giraffes)

watching developments from Joburg airport departure lounge! Tim - Tim Biller

Bwana.tv/live seems to have audio of inside. - Hawklu

http://www.macrumorslive.com/ is autoupdating - Michael Mooney

http://www.ustream.tv/channel... is working for me - Simon Tracey

http://live.gizmodo.com/ - Jason Hansen

Apple stores pulled all the iPhone Displays - Erle Stride

en cuanto? - Jason from IM

Thanks Leo hopefully we will see a new Apple TV - CuriousTux

also http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Mike Bracco

Leo, when you say a website - can you please put it in here too -- or someone ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™

So far on track for Steve coming for the iPhone at the end of the keynote. - Mister IQ

Why would Apple release notebooks without Snow Leopard? - Ryan

Apple stores pulled all the iPhone Displays - Erle Stride

live audio http://www.ustream.tv/channel... live blog http://live.gizmodo.com/ - detorn

OSx 10.6 today? - Michael Mooney

Are we going to see Snow Leopard today? - Simon Tracey

I can hear everyone. - Jonathan Langdale

i'm hearing them - Brandon Weir

I can hear everyone, those are old posts - Michael

hearing the stream on bitgravity - Patrick Dunn

We can hear all of them - LPH™ and his dog P™

We can hear them fine! :) - Alan (Giraffes)

Can hear them fine. - Bleu Caldwell

Tell justine to move her laptop so we can see her - Michael

I hear all of them. - Ben Fiore

I have audio. - Peter Kruit

Live keynote video http://bambuser.com/channel... - Tom Sundström

We didnt hear the audio at the beginning, but it kicked in about 10mins ago :) - Alan (Giraffes)

Hi Justine :) - Peter Kruit

Yea we want a better view of the female behind the Macbook. - Jonathan Langdale

There is still a white macbook. Non-white 13" is now macbook pro - Pete Finlay

Thanks Leo! Much better than floating heads over macbooks - Michael

That looks much better yea. - Jonathan Langdale

All the better to get tablets! - Jonathan Langdale

Tell Alex to undo that top button. LOL - Michael

Safari 4 shipping today. - Michael W. Sumbera

Tablets are going to solve the laptop LOS problem. - Jonathan Langdale

Google Wave should make next year's coverage much better. - Hawklu

Alex and justine need to up the commentary... - SPIRE WIRED

oooooh 64-bit javascript speed increase! nice! - Jonathan Langdale

I can't believe I have to go to a meeting now - Darrel Davis

http://www.macrumorslive.com/ - Michael Mooney

Leo, Macrumourslive.com have pictures..... - Alan (Giraffes)

Darrel - walk slowly ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™

I'm not a huge Ryan Block fan, but gdgt.com has a good feed. - Ryan

Hey all, Live Video stream. Listenable. http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Michel

QT Pro needed for fullscreen. - Michael W. Sumbera

MacRumers updating faster than Engadget - PXLated

I love real-time social media. - Jonathan Langdale

Revised MBP, nice... Now revise Euro pricing, $3,500 for a MBP 17" is too much! - David Wright from twhirl

That's Quick Look, not Expose. - Michael W. Sumbera

Mac rumors seems to be keeping up the best so far - Michael

A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29. - Shane Harwood

It's weird when we're critical of a company frequently improving their products without a large increase in price. Seems backwards, but that's what we want. - Jonathan Langdale

29$ thats sweet, just got 10.5 and was planning on skipping snow - detorn

Guys, the http://www.ustream.tv/channel... stream just got a lot better sound. - Michel

That live stream is really bad, it sucks. - Jonathan Langdale

$29 in comparison to Windows-7 skyhigh pricing - PXLated

Well, it's something. - Michel

That could explain the Best Bus announcement of upgrades for $59 and $99... - David Wright from twhirl

win7 pricing will be $50 for the upgrade, not terrible - detorn

For 10.5 owners, $29. - Michael W. Sumbera

September? I can't wait that long... - Michel

$29 is amazing... well done Apple - Simon Tracey

Yea Sept is along way off. - Jonathan Langdale

Gives devs time to get things ready. - Michael W. Sumbera

Is $29 really the truth? Any links to back it up? - Ryan

also GDGT http://live.gdgt.com/2009... - Chris Heath

Yep. $29 is truth. Pretty awesome, huh? - Michel

I miss Steve :< - Jonathan Langdale

lol, harness the power of graphics? Entry level graphics in new machines... :-S - David Wright from twhirl

@Jonathan These few months were just a test for him not being at Apple, I say. - Michel

what about us G4 processor people? are we left in the dust? - Chris Heath

haven't made a G4 in 4 or 5 years, time to upgrade - detorn

Sorry Chris, it looks like Apple are not supporting the old CPU's anymore - Simon Tracey

Exchange support, that I expected. - Mister IQ

This is great news for developers. Not meant of users. - Jonathan Langdale

"A PR was just sent out from Apple that says Snow Leopard will be available in September and for $29. - Shane Harwood" - Michael W. Sumbera

I predict whoever is streaming that feed is going to get caught. - Jonathan Langdale

Having to set up Entrourage or Mail with Exchange, built-in support is NICE! - David Wright from twhirl

I think more small business going to Google Apps going to def push out Exchange - Jonathan Langdale

Exchange IS entrenched. So yes, it is great to have full support so I can get all my PIM data on my Mac w/out going thru hoops - Jay GT:Blackfish 95

Temple University just switched to the google platform... something like 35K students... not just for small business - detorn

I can hear the u stream audio, it's pretty crap. - Jonathan Langdale

Yeah. But you can understand it. - Michel

Now shifting to the iPhone - Michael Mooney

Yea the home versions are pretty crap. Pro always better. - Jonathan Langdale

Officially confirmed for $29. - Michel

iPhone time! - Peter Kruit

Depends, cloud isn't an option for many... Especially with legal implications not clear... - David Wright from twhirl

Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone Iphone iphone iphone - Jonathan Langdale

Family pack is $49? Heck yeah! That's $150 cheaper than I was willing to pay. Amazing. - Ryan

About time to get to the iPhone ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™

http://www.ustream.tv/channel... has audio of WWDC and terrible video - Magnus Tait

those prices are for leopard upgrades only - detorn

So the Spy shots of the Matte black iPhone were fake? - Erle Stride

http://www.ustream.tv/channel... <---- Cali Lewis is reading out the audio Leo - Preston Taylor

@Wrightde you make a great point - Jonathan Langdale

@detorn Many people already have Leopard. I'm willing to pay $49 for the Snow Leopard features. - Ryan

Wow. I might have a reason now to get a Mac Mini. - Jose G

Playing a video of developers telling their story - Michael Mooney

Leo, video with OK audio. http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Mister IQ

absolutely, I'm there already. Just making the clarification. - detorn

I wish they would play a video about developers complaining about App Store. - Jonathan Langdale

As someone else said -->http://www.ustream.tv/channel... (Crummy video, but better than nothing. Audio is pretty decent.) - Justin

UStreams seems to work fine for me. Anyone else having trouble? - Michel

Developers (Airstrip, EA, Igloo Games, MLB.com, etc) talking about how the iPhone / App Store has changed their businesses and lives - Michael Mooney

Uh-ho. Leo and Alex talking about Fieldrunners. Great. lol - Michel

hate to admit it, but great fieldrunners tips. That game is crack - Michael

Here's one iphone developer talking about their business and how app store changed their live http://cli.gs/cligs/new - Jonathan Langdale

Video ended. - Mister IQ

He finally checked his tweets, I totally call that one - Doug

Argh, just how many times do they have to talk about APIs. - Michel

I am a total apple fanboy, but applauding for copy, paste and undo seems wrong. - detorn

@detorn good point - Jonathan Langdale

@detorn totally - Simon Tracey

MMS - later this summer? - LPH™ and his dog P™

why not MMS now? - andy brudtkuhl

I think that means we won't see the new iPhone OS until July. - Ryan

This is not the kind of dev keynote I'm used to, especially about iPhone which is what is leading development. - Jonathan Langdale

@detorn Oh yes. I hated when that happened on the 3.0 preview. - Michel

Landscape near everywhere, only 2 years late. - Mister IQ

Yep Ryan - I think so :( - LPH™ and his dog P™

No word about background processing yet. - Jonathan Langdale

Is MMS important with twitter? - Ben

@ben no - andy brudtkuhl

"AT&T will be ready to support MMS later this summer." .... they support it already - Kashif Khan

Renting + purchasing movies on the iPhone. Nice. - Michel

@kashif i know i could do MMS 2 years ago on AT&T - andy brudtkuhl

i wanna see dual boot support for windows mobil 6.5...lol - detorn

detornLOL - LPH™ and his dog P™

@ben only if you have friends without a computer... - David Wright from twhirl

Note: emphasis on Parental Controls. - Michel

When are they going to annouce Android support on iphone? - Jonathan Langdale

AT&T supports MMS for other phones, why not the iPhone? - Mister IQ

tethering is HUGE! - detorn

Tethering .... Rogers will never let that happen :( - Simon Tracey

Allowing teathering? - PXLated

seamless tethering... - andy brudtkuhl

Yeah. As a 3.0 Beta tester, I can say that it really is seamles.. - Michel

Tethering is cool, but I want GPS on iTouch with my own MiFi - Jonathan Langdale

no tethering on AT&T? - andy brudtkuhl

f that - andy brudtkuhl

AT&T :p - LPH™ and his dog P™

lol. Major hit. No AT&T. - Michel

This constant buffering is getting on my nerves. - WazNeeni

AT&T doesn't want you to use Skype - Jonathan Langdale

WOW Rogers will allow tethering but not AT&T.... - Simon Tracey

AT&T #FAIL - andy brudtkuhl

boo AT&T total Fail - Kim Landwehr

Damn AT&T!!!! - PXLated

They're trying to make up for flash with Javascript and similar technologies. - Michel

I was just in Chicago and AT&T couldn't handle the 55,000 people at a soccer game. It was a horrible experience. iPhone on Verizon? I'm game. - Ryan

Wow all those ATT users are going to be so HAPPY - Jonathan Langdale

WHEN IS IT OUT!??? - Simon Tracey

announce verizon, so i can ditch att. No tether huge fail - Michael

Verizon MiFi -> iTouch == Win - Jonathan Langdale

I bet new iPhone will be the 'One more thing...' - Michel

Haven't bought an iPhone (and it's killing me) but won't until there's tethering - PXLated

Given the iPhone 3.0 preview was in March, I'd expect this all goes live about...now, right? - Ken Sheppardson

No Esperanto? Booo!!! ;) - Simon Tracey

I'm not sure how AT&T couldn't be a launch partner here -- really strange - LPH™ and his dog P™

AT&T needs more time to filter your tethered packets for VOIP - Jonathan Langdale

Damn it people, don't clap for stupid things. - Michel

What if the phone is down the back of the sofa?? - Alan (Giraffes)

I lose my phone and can't find it because the battery is dead (edit: Agree Leo!) - LPH™ and his dog P™

Michel: They're developers. This means they get to build cooler stuff. - Ken Sheppardson

I'm not liking the In-App Purchases. Who's with me? It's just to take more money from me... - Michel

So this is an API for developers to help Apple force people to buy through App Store more. - Jonathan Langdale

@michael somewhat agreed - Ben

WTF IS THAT SOUND!? - Jonathan Langdale

can you "squirt" songs, ala zune? - detorn

Can they simply get to the new stuff - Bas Heetebrij

That sounded like hand cuffs. - Jonathan Langdale

@Jon LOL. Wouldn't be surprised... - Michel

I knew it, 4G iphone is going to be a iPhone Tricorder - Jonathan Langdale

Anybody see any reason I should change my plans to buy a Pre yet? - Ken Sheppardson

;-) - Ken Sheppardson

the guy streaming the live vid, may be comic book guy... eating cheetos... get that image out of your head now! - detorn

Are we all expecting 3.0 to be released today? - Ben

They're not going to talk about background processing? - Jonathan Langdale

No Ben - was hoping ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™

3.0 might be with the new hardware and that still needs FCC approval. - Michel

Ben, I'll pay you $5 if they release it today. Not going to happen. They'll wait till the new iPhone comes out. - Ryan

Find My iPhone should be available as a one-off paid service rather than just part of MobileMe. If I really lose my phone I might be prepared to pay a small fee to wipe it remotely. - bobrudge

I thought video guy was trying to get his medication :D - David Wright from twhirl

KShep, I've had the 3.0 beta and watching the Pre unbox almost made me cry. Why isn't Apple on the ball like that? - iluvgimp

#Michel the new iPhone may already have approval. There's a misconception that you have to wait to announce to keep it secret. - Ryan

@bobrudge I totally agree. I'm not paying $129 for it every year just for that feature. Hell, its worth the price of a new phone :P - Michel

But how many times have they kept it a secret? - Michel

I'm thinking Doom, in real-life for the turn-by-turn. :-) - Jesse Stay

there is a great Leo quote for the keynote, "I was hoping there would be news by now." - detorn

Then get out on the trike Leo! - David Wright from twhirl

Maybe Steve will come out at the end? - Jonathan Langdale

They really need to whip out "one more thing" pretty quick... ZZzzz... - Ken Sheppardson

LOL @ David - Roberto Bonini

http://www.apple.com/jp... - Alan (Giraffes)

One more thing...Waterproof TABLETs! - Jonathan Langdale

20,262 viewers right now - Ken Sheppardson

of the stream from the event - Ken Sheppardson

Even the video camera & editing isn't going to bring this back... no tethering or MMS support from AT&T for "awhile" at least really sinks this ship. - iluvgimp

I agree Ken - I'm starting to dose --- I wish Jonathan -- an Apple Tablet PC would be cool - LPH™ and his dog P™

Apple tablet is not happening now. Not enough rumors. I say. - Michel

I hope I'm wrong too :( - Michel

question, isn't using an apple product for medical purposes against the apple TOS? - detorn

This is becoming a waste of time... will they just get on with it. - Bas Heetebrij

This is going to be huge to tap into the healthcare application market - Jonathan Langdale

This is either a great stall -- or they have nothing to announce that is new - LPH™ and his dog P™

It's funny because before the uStream guy fixed the audio, all I could say on Twitter was: "Oh! Something cool just happened. Dunno what though..." - Michel

Why are they replaying the March 3.0 Preview event video? - Ken Sheppardson

Well, It is a developers conference - rumors be damned - PXLated

You know, you guys were nagging Apple like this last year. You wanted 3G, you wanted GPS bla bla. Now you're poo-pooing GPS and saying that there is zero coverage of 3G in the US. The beauty of the iPhone is the lack of a continual need for hardware updates. The functionality is not tied to the phone. Every version of the phone has the same functionality, only with different specs - Jackson Pollock

PXL, but they've said all of this already - detorn

I'm getting bored - Jesse Stay

Books in app.store -- to compete with Amazon - LPH™ and his dog P™

Jesse: Getting? - Ken Sheppardson

not yet Johnny - detorn

Not yet Johnny - LPH™ and his dog P™

Ken, I have bored - Jesse Stay

iPhone is not a good medium for reading books - bobrudge

I'm a dev and this is all boring except the airstream health care stuff. - Jonathan Langdale

iPhone. - Michel

Where's iJustine in this chat? I know she uses FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

They are really milking this for all it's worth. Come on..."Oh yeah...one more thing." - Bryan Brooks

OK, how 'bout that new phone? - Bill Frater

there isn't a big history of "one more thing" at WWDC. And never yet without Steve - Jackson Pollock

yeah... iphone is not for reading iphone... is there something else coming? - Bas Heetebrij

As a student. I would love the textbook thing. It's great for me, as a student. Who has his iPhone in class most of the time (For educational purposes!) - Michel

Is this just what we should start to expect from post-Jobsian Apple? - Ken Sheppardson

is apple make a student only iphone - Michael Mooney

You don't get it if you want a new phone. The iphone itself is merely a way to communicate and interact with the iphone OS. The whole point of the iPhone design is that it's as little hardware design as possible. - Jackson Pollock

We've lost the panel.. talking about Tom-Tom :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Where is the iTouch news... where is the background processing... - Jonathan Langdale

I don't know about you guys but I would rather hear the audio feed mostly, not the commentary - Robb McMahan

@Michael Mooney: That's the iPod Touch. @Jon Please dont call it the iTouch. - Michel

Ah... Tom-Tom for iPhone. Reminds me... I used to run Tom Tom on my Treo 755p. I wonder if Pre will have it... - Ken Sheppardson

doesn't navigation need background processes? - Bas Heetebrij

I've been waiting on the turn by turn since this thing came out! sweet! - Bryan Brooks

I like calling it the iTouch :< - Jonathan Langdale

C'mon guys, would you guys PLEASE hush and let us hear the official feed! Comment after it's over like they would on CNN. - Robb McMahan

background processing is such a heap of mess. let's not forget that the primary market for this phone is mere mortals who don't know about memory and process load and everything else. They'll avoid it if they can - Jackson Pollock

@Robb I want to hear the commentary from the panel one what's going on - otherwise I'd just watch the stream. I want opinions on what's going on. - bobrudge

So what's with the hardware for TomTom? What is it actually used for? - Michel

@Robb first comment on this tread has the link - detorn

Anyone know the feed address? - Robb McMahan

oh..thanks - Robb McMahan

http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Jackson Pollock

http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - detorn

@Michel for mounting in the car, by the sound of it, power + sound + GPS aerial - David Wright from twhirl

Ken: post-Jobs? who's said anything about post-Jobs? - Jackson Pollock

@david I see, thanks. But having two gps antennas there seems a bit of a waste (of money), IMO. - Michel

Jackson... it's just that I haven't seen him yet. I suppose he could trot out and wake us up in a few. - Ken Sheppardson

They're going to arrest the guy and cut the feed right before the iPhone info - Jonathan Langdale

Hardware? Hardware? Hardware? - Thobias Vemmenby

he's on a leave of absence out June - Jackson Pollock

Right, Jackson. - Ken Sheppardson

Will be available when 3.0 is available. Again, not going to happen. - Ryan

Not today, that is. - Michel

Have faith! The Steve will fix. - Thobias Vemmenby

I've had it with Apple demoing apps. They do it every keynote now. Seriously, apps on the iPhone has become a pretty common thing. - Michel

YEA BABY Iphone TRICORDER i luv it - Jonathan Langdale

I'm wondering if BestBuy will let me return the MacBook Pro 15" I bought 3 weeks ago and get one of the new ones. Did they say when they would be available? - Jesse Stay

If Jobs died tomorrow, the company wouldn't change much at all. It's the most fine-oiled machine in the technology industry. Jobs has spent the last 12 years filling the board and the senior positions with people of his own liking. Ive, Forstall, Serlet, Cook, they're all handpicked by Jobs and have been doing their job for the last 10 years. - Jackson Pollock

Me too Lindsay. Original iPhone lacked too many features *I* needed. New version looks much better - David Wright from twhirl

new macs today, bestbuy or apple should let you exchange within 30 days - detorn

Jackson: This event would indicate otherwise. - Ken Sheppardson

This event is pretty identical to last year's - Jackson Pollock

http://live.gizmodo.com/ - Thobias Vemmenby

detorn nice - maybe I'll even get some money back after today's announcement :-) - Jesse Stay

Jesse : Available now, I think they said... - David Wright from twhirl

I'm really happy with my 2007 MBP. Seriously, for me, it's brand new. - Michel

I have iTouch and I LOVE using Skype and Fringe. I don't like paying cell fees. I only want GPS in iTouch - Jonathan Langdale

It's a developer conference. For software developers. They're not engineers and industrial designers, they're computer scientists who are looking to make money from developing their applications on this platform - Jackson Pollock

Apple stock down 4. Down to 140.5 - Michel

Intersting..... - Roberto Bonini

I almost bought the new MBP when they first came about, but I got another 15 MBP prev gen for FW800 - Jonathan Langdale

Apple is not attending Macworld any longer, they're not really doing press conferences to release products anymore, they're changing how they do things, not what they do. - Jackson Pollock

Apparently the market doesn't realize this is a "developer conference" - Ken Sheppardson

Lol. Wave iPhone over stuff to buy. Look at that money go! - Michel

is leo down - Michael Mooney

Is twit.am down? Just lost it on my iPhone and it can't reconnect... - Adam Jenkins

twit.am is down via iTunes too! What's up? - Thobias Vemmenby

Apple shares, up nearly 70% in 2009, have slid during the presentation, recently trading at $140.94, down 3.8% on the day. -- WSJ - LPH™ and his dog P™

also just lost twit.am on the iphone - Michael

Apple stock has been down since market open, not because of today's announcements. - Pete Finlay

Oops, forgot it is an Apple feed... My "touch" is an htc Touch Pro :red: - David Wright from twhirl

The stock has barely moved during the keynote. - Pete Finlay

@ Michael/Thobias/Adam They've been having some power issues today. Outages and such. - Justin

The stock always drops during the keynotes anyway and then rises dramatically after wards. - Michel

Is there going to be a new API to search for Gillmore Gang videos/drama? - Jonathan Langdale

Ken: the fanboys who put hope in every little detail they can find. The market is based on salesfigures and quarterly results. If there is no iPhone announcement today, it'll come later and the stock will stay the same. - Jackson Pollock

@Adam, checked mine, its down - zephyrlily

When can I unlock my car with an iPhone? - Jesse Stay

Yeah. The keynotes are becoming longer and longer. I miss the short ones. - Michel

WWDC is always 2 hours - Jackson Pollock

have twitlive on the laptop via browser working, no iphone via twit.am - Michael

Car thieves are probably cheering. That's sweet. - Jonathan Langdale

and the last years it has been 1 hour of mac, 1 hour of iphone - Jackson Pollock

Actually the stock used to jump up during keynotes, only in the last 18 months has that pattern changed. - Pete Finlay

@ Jesse when can I unlock your car with an iPhone, better question... now thats some development! - detorn

Have they done anything to nip the Pre in the bud yet? - Ken Sheppardson

No new iPhone? They'd better after this snorefest. - Ryan

Final demo - Michael Mooney

So how do you actually start the car on Zipcar? Can it be done through the iPhone? - Michel

think they implied the key was in the car - detorn

Michel I believe he said you just push a key icon and it starts - Jesse Stay

ZipCar website crashed.... not ready for the WWDC response. - Jerry Schuman

Hah... Leo's view of the stream clips off the "Sponsored by DylanCombs.tv" from the top of the image - Ken Sheppardson

This is not an entertainment event. It is a public press conference. As much as you would like it to be, Apple does not. They don't broadcast it on the web, they don't do them as often as they used to, they're not even done by Steve Jobs any longer. - Jackson Pollock

Oh, you unlock it via the app, but I don't see why they couldn't enable you to start it from the app as well - Jesse Stay

Does this raise security issues? (the Zipcar app). Stealing can become a lot easier. - Michel

now i can phone jack to get your car - Michael Mooney

Sure would be nice if Leo could get twit.am back up. I can't listen via my computer (I'm at work and my headphones won't reach to the computer). - Adam Jenkins

Jaskson: You're making excuses. The tech community is watching this with expectations. - Ken Sheppardson

Creating an app for your own car wouldn't be that difficult - you'd just need a bluetooth kit the iphone can talk to - Jesse Stay

And since the jailbreak can insert daemons to change the functionality of apps, it might cause a lot of issues. - Michel

Is there an app for internet drama yet? - Jonathan Langdale

Michael, it's no different than unlocking with a wireless remote - Jesse Stay

@jonathan iFlame is your title, someone else needs to make the app - detorn

Leo or staff can you comment to the possibility of twit.am being back up? Need to take a bio break - Michael

this is the first time i listen to twit live - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

June 17 - LPH™ and his dog P™

June 17th - Michel

2 weeks - Jesse Stay

iPhone OS 3.0 June 17th - Michael Mooney

iPhone 3.0 next week, cool. - Pete Finlay

Forstall wouldn't be the guy to announce a new phone. He's a software guy - Jackson Pollock

Er, one week - Jesse Stay

this with Leo from Twit right? - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Perhaps it's finally time for the genius in the room, Ive - Jackson Pollock

LOL at Line6 accessory for iPhone. I mean, this is solution-without-a-problem territory. If you have an electric guitar, you can handle another small piece of gear. - George S.

GMC out today, very cool - detorn

he's there in the front row - Jackson Pollock

Calling the TWiT cottage! Get TWiT.am up! - Thobias Vemmenby

it's time to replace it.... - Jackson Pollock

Time for Steve to hit the stage! - Peter Kruit

no Steve - Jackson Pollock

15 minutes left in the keynote. Time for a phone announcement. - Pete Finlay

Nope on GPS Touch. They need to keep the iphone and touch separate. - Michel

What did he just say about Ovi? - Michel

Call the Tech Guy, he'll fix it ;-) - David Wright from twhirl

in case you didn't know it, Phil is a marketing guy.... - Jackson Pollock

Here we go. - Michel

Oh look... hardware - Ken Sheppardson

don't expect a revolution - Jackson Pollock

Looks like the 3GS rumor was right - Jesse Stay

3GS. - Michel

3GS??? - Ryan

Ken; they just replaced their entire laptop line! - Jackson Pollock

S stands for Steve - Jesse Stay

Gruber was right about the "S" - Pete Finlay

iPhone 3G "S" - super? - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Linday : Sarbaans Oxley (sp?) - David Wright from twhirl

S = speed - Michel

I don't see them revamping the design that much. Ive is perfecting it still - Jackson Pollock

S = sick - Jesse Stay

2.1x faster to launch Messages, 2.4x to load SimCity, 3.6x faster to load an Excel attachment, 2.9x faster to load a large website. - MacRumors - Michel

Sarbanes... - David Wright from twhirl

No reason to buy AppleCare on my current phone. I'll just replace it with the 3GS - Ryan

Anyone seen it? - Thobias Vemmenby

@Ryan, what will you tell AT&T? - Michel

S stands for same maybe - Jonathan Langdale

Shweet - zephyrlily

@Thobias http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets... - detorn

I think I missed something due to a streaming refresh. - WazNeeni

If they want me to upgrade from my iPhone 3G I hope they've got more than some speed bumps (not important to me in a phone) and camera features and spec I had on my Sony 4 years ago. - bobrudge

So far, many of the rumors are true - Jesse Stay

3MP - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Nice. Autofocus camera. Good for barcodes. - Michel

@detorn thanks - Thobias Vemmenby

yes for the cam! - michael sean wright

Parity with the Pre - Ken Sheppardson

this is like the sternfannetwork. they all hate howard - Jackson Pollock

Only 3mp camera? Suppose it depends on the quality of the lens... - David Wright from twhirl

Wasen't tap to focus a Sony Erricson patent? - Michel

Camera updates are useless without a flash. No chance of focusing on anything in bad light without it. - bobrudge

I wonder if they're going to announce a video app - Jonathan Langdale

good point Geoff - michael sean wright

Loving the new camera on new iphone. - Kim Landwehr

VIDEO!!!!! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Video! - Michel

wow on the video!! - michael sean wright

this is where you wonder why they put the SD card in the macbooks - Jackson Pollock

video yeahh - Kim Landwehr

So is it going to launch today, with 3.0? - Jesse Stay

Will we get ShopSavvy on iPhone now? - Thobias Vemmenby

30fps Not bad. - Michel

Nice. - Tom Landini

meh .. not enough to get me to upgrade - andy brudtkuhl

no way 30fps, thats theoretical - detorn

So close to wanting to get a new one, but AT&T's lack of cooperation is killing me. Still using my 1.0. - Greg

listen to them melt. what did you expect? - Jackson Pollock

since when does Apple bump specs at the end of keynotes? - Jackson Pollock

I will upgrade my iTouch for the speed improvement and video - Jonathan Langdale

i'm gonna say release date is June 17th - Jackson Pollock

VGA video, meh. N95 did that about 2 years ago - Jody Fanning

i agree..... - Roberto Bonini

VGA is 640x480 not too bad..... - Roberto Bonini

Finally - Jesse Stay

Oh crap nice. Voice control. - Michel

can we have skype video chat on iphone now? - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Yep, I totally missed the actual announcement when TWiT Live/BitGrav refreshed on me automatically. That sucks. Anyway, can you make phone calls on the new phone? - WazNeeni

twit.am seems to be back up now. - Adam Jenkins

Voice control - Yea - PXLated

Voice dialling...... - Roberto Bonini

@Alredo not if it's on the other side of the iPhone from the display - Jonathan Langdale

Twit.am back up, thanks - Michael

I hope the voice recognition is better than the S-Class Mercedes :D - David Wright from twhirl

could smell this coming from the Shuffle upgrade - Jackson Pollock

It'll be very interesting as to what engine they are using for the voice control. - Michel

Nice: control ipod with voice. Good for the gym. - Tom Landini

voice control sounds pretty cool - Kim Landwehr

I've held off on iPhone - Waited for Voice and Tethering - Now have it but damn AT&T - PXLated

Voice will be software only, it's in the new shuffle - Jonathan Langdale

voice for itunes! very syncish? ... love the who is playing feature! wow. come on! with genius. - michael sean wright

I expect a slew of car kits for sale after this - Jesse Stay

people hated the shuffle voice control - Jackson Pollock

Some guy just shrieked like a girl in the audience when the compass was announced. lol - Michel

Will the voice control work through the inline mic on the headphones? - bobrudge

haha yeah i heard that lol - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

bobrudge; yes - Jackson Pollock

they've had this on the iPod shuffle for months and months - Jackson Pollock

Still not really sure why a compass is so awesome. Can someone enlighten me, please? - WazNeeni

Support for Nike+, but do any of the us geeks care? :P - Michel

agree, Waz... it is allright... but what's so fantastic - Bas Heetebrij

@WazNeeni To be able to get directional services in Google maps etc. - Thobias Vemmenby

i can't decide if i want this or a netbook - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

But compared to what? - Michel

those battery and power engineers they hired are worth their weight in gold today apparently - Jackson Pollock

sweet i can use the compass + gps to map out frisbee golf courses - andy brudtkuhl

Alright you got me how much - Kim Landwehr

what alex is referring to is the green screen usually doesn't handle water/ clear well. amazing g.s. - michael sean wright

and when - Kim Landwehr

how much and when and where? - Bas Heetebrij

price drop would be GIGANTIC! - detorn

omg they need a GPS in iTouch - Jonathan Langdale

I'm gonna say $199 for 16GB on june 17th - Jackson Pollock

OK, when? - Tom Landini

Ohh. Price. - Michel

$199 - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

$299 for 32GB - Jackson Pollock

yea - Jackson Pollock

is nike+ an app that come with? if so can you delete it lol other stock apps cant be deleted right. - Frankie Warren

32GB $299 - Michel

here we go - 32 gb $299 - michael sean wright

16GB $199 32GB $299 - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

I'm gonna be paying $400 for that here in Norway - Jackson Pollock

8GB, 99$ - Jackson Pollock

yea - Jackson Pollock

32GB $299 with a 10 year contract with AT&T ? - Jonathan Langdale

nice going apple - Kim Landwehr

$99 for the older 3G iphone - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

that's the macbook move - Jackson Pollock

Does that mean I can't sell my old 3G for more than I buy the new iPhone any more? - Jesse Stay

agree w/ alex. - michael sean wright

$99 is a great price, but is that with a contract? - Jonathan Langdale

i'm smelling design upgrade since he hasn't shown it yet - Jackson Pollock

Yeah. Really good move. We're seeing Apple really looking at the economy. - Michel

The upfront price doesn't matter much, it is the contract life price that matters. - Jody Fanning

June 19th - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Next week's going to be busy for me - Jesse Stay

061909 - michael sean wright

June 19th at the store I'll be - Kim Landwehr

hey, screw you Leo - Jackson Pollock

$99 is bullshit for us that paid $300 for it 6 months ago - andy brudtkuhl

leo - "that's it, not getting the pre." - michael sean wright

shut it, design is up - Jackson Pollock

Gah. What about old iPhone users? I wonder what people in a contract might do. - Michel

@andy always happens to cell phones - detorn

michel? renew? - Jackson Pollock

$99 might make the first really affordable Smart Phone. But is that with contract? - Eoghann Irving

@detorn i know but not that quick - andy brudtkuhl

razor went from 600 to 99 in a year - detorn

Are they going to sell it thru the Apple store? - Kim Landwehr

No front-facing camera - Jesse Stay

So $99 + contract!?!?! what the dillyo - Jonathan Langdale

Or frontal camera as MG calls it - Jesse Stay

Oh stop complaining about the old price. You always know that technology is evolving, getting cheaper and while also more expensive.. - Michel

Jony is happy with his design it seems. - Jackson Pollock

there's a lot of geek love in that room :) - zephyrlily

Will I be able to upgrade from the 3G? If not, I'm okay with that. - Ryan

apple announces they now OWN the phone market - stock moves -2.84 - michael sean wright

Leo didn't think the Intel switch was a good move, Leo didn't have any confidence in the iPhone between launch and release, bla bla bla - Jackson Pollock

Is this the longest keynote ever? - Thobias Vemmenby

Is there a way I can /ignore Pollock? lol - Jonathan Langdale

Yeah. I think its the longer keynote. But an awesome one. Snow Leopard + awesome laptops + 3GS. - Michel

the real story today is that the guy streaming didn't get caught/thrown out... - detorn

we are paying 600$ for it in India - Varun "Maverick" Pitale

He put his Twitter ID on the stream... - Ken Sheppardson

for those about to stream, we salute you - zephyrlily

@Michel I agree! - Thobias Vemmenby

@Lindsay Good point but people look at the upfront price more than the overa ll price. - Michel

Yea, $99 really means nothing if it's an expensive contract. - Jonathan Langdale

Given the fact he put his ID on the stream http://twitter.com/dylancombs, Leo, he might appreciate a shout out - Ken Sheppardson

$99 is the apple price, not the at&t price... probably be free with contract - detorn

We love you Steve, hope you get well and come back after the summer! - Thobias Vemmenby

The $99 model wasn't listed as 3GS, just 3G - PXLated

Wait - what was the software being used for the background? - LPH™ and his dog P™

That was fast! Apple.com is updated! - Michel

Conduit - Jackson Pollock

Thank you Jackson - LPH™ and his dog P™

Leo, anything mentioned in the first half of the keynote is OS 3.0. Only features mentioned by Phil at the very end will be 3GS-only. - Adam Jenkins

upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB) - Jayesh

AT&T is top trend on twitter - Jonathan Langdale

So whadya say, Leo? When you send your Pre back next week, what will you buy? - Ken Sheppardson

Iphone 3G White is gone - Jackson Pollock

$99 is a great price, I'm just not so keen on having to shell out $1,000 a year on a phone plan. - Eoghann Irving

Ouch! Entry level 13" MBP $1595 in Germany :( - David Wright from twhirl

But 17" down to "only" $3192 from $3500 earlier today - David Wright from twhirl

you've had a 13.3'' tho, it's called the Macbook or Macbook Air - Jackson Pollock

I still don't understand how you buy an iPhone on 17th with a contract or not. - Jonathan Langdale

Interestingly the small print for the phone prices reads "existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)." - Steve Brady

i wonder when the uk site will get updated, O2 (the carrier) and apples site still normal for me - Charles Greig

So *upgrading* (which usually means at the 18 month point??) is 200 more?? - Steve Brady

$699 + a two-year contract is expensive - Jonathan Langdale

So what's the lowest price plan with the $99 phone for a new customer? - Ken Sheppardson

it's cheap here - Jackson Pollock

What's "cheap"? - Ken Sheppardson

your AT&T prices - Jackson Pollock

No, I mean what does "cheap" mean? $9/mo? $19? - Ken Sheppardson

i think (not sure) $79 a month is the lowest - detorn

it's like $400 bucks with 2 year contract, and $100 a month for a plan with unlimited data here - Jackson Pollock

If I'm honest, I think the Pre has problems in competing on features. I think the N97 from Nokia is closest and better in some aspects. - Bas Heetebrij

Ok, its on the uk apple site now but no prices that i can see :( - Charles Greig

why would i get a netbook with the new phone? - michael sean wright

Leo, you could take questions/comments from the chats in lieu of calls... - Denise Howell

Why would AT&T charge more for upgrading from iPhone 3G? - Tom Landini

It has to be the N97 from Nokia. It has a 5mp camera and It is able to record 16:9 video - Kashif Khan

AT&T are nuts about the upgrading... taking me forever to get the subsidy - detorn

yeah, $99 is not really the actual price is it. I mean, the "$199" iPhone was close to 600EUR if you took the $2/month for 2 year contract with no calls/texts/data plan. If you take any other contract (here in Finland, it's capped at 100MB/month regardless of plan), you end up paying a lot more. - Andy Patel

Upgrade pricing absolutely stinks.. $499 for existing iPhone 3G customers for the 32 gig phone. How much more can AT&T alienate existing customers? I also love how they make it sound liek they're doing me a favor 'because you're a valued customer' - Lon Seidman

So no word about iTouch, this sucks for people that don't want a month plan. - Jonathan Langdale

I'm looking at the new macbook pro prices and the 17" is now $2499. I think that is a lower new price. - Pete Finlay

The iphone ad is up! http://www.apple.com/iphone... - Peter

great coverage! thanks all - michael sean wright

iPod Touch news is usually announced in September so it's ready for the holidays. - Mister IQ

Leo, you must do a MacBreak Weekly with Andy! - Pete Finlay

rogers hasnt either, but after what happened with iphone 3g last year, i expect 3 year contract and a lackluster expensive plan. - mark pompeo

the interesting thing about the voice commands, i suggested that to apple over a year ago though the contact us section, altough i suggest this for the ipod specifically. i expect just a coincidence. they had to add that, almost every phone has voice commands - mark pompeo

sorry to hear that Leo. - michael sean wright

I was really hoping for background apps, and front facing video. Still, seeing all the other stuff makes this a must have device. I am just worried about getting shafted by AT&T in my attempt to get upgraded. - Darrell Bell from twhirl

Sorry Leo, it was a good show...although lost in the ethers... - Bill Frater

thanks for the coverage though leo, we salute you for your efforts - mark pompeo

Yep, great coverage Leo. You have a lot to answer for... I'd refused to Web 2.0, then I found TWiT, now I'm on Twitter, FB and FF, in one weekend! :D - David Wright from twhirl

I'm catching up on TWiT network, must be over 60 hours in the last couple of weeks! NOTE: Don't listen to 8 hours of Security Now back to back! Ended up dreaming I was decrypting files, manually in my sleep! :D - David Wright from twhirl

LOL @David - Roberto Bonini

There is just something soothing about Leo's voice and the TWiT gang are usually hilarious - David Wright from twhirl

did we hear anything about a2dp for the 3G? for the 3GS? - Alan Kroeper

alan, i wasn't watching too closely, but i don't see anything in this chat mentioning it - however there's lots of bluetooth stuff in the 3.0sdk so it might be in there... there's more news to come over the next couple days - Chris Heath

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Everybody should check this out. Even if you're not a Google Reader fan or a typical FireFox user, load FireFox and go to http://www.feedly.com. There's a limited number of downloads of their .xpi plug-in, so it's first come, first serve. - Louis Gray

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I was about to pooh-pooh it until I read the part about how if you share it/read it in Feedly, it shares and marks it read in Reader. That's killer. - Mark Trapp

crap. I read this as soon as I leave my computer - Bwana ☠ from fftogo

Thanks Louis, I am checking out http://www.feedly.com looks like a great concept!! How do you find all these cool things? - Susan Beebe

Just started to use it and I am immediately impressed. This just might be my new favorite reader. - Jason Wehmhoener

@Susan, I found Edwin when he first wrote "Listen. Measure. Iterate." back in February. http://tinyurl.com/6crhsz We've been trading e-mail ever since. I didn't say the word Feedly or Feeddo for months. :-) Others have different stories. - Louis Gray

I was trying it with FF 2 for the last 15 minutes. I glossed over the fact (on the feedly home page) that it needs FF3. It seems to install fine on FF2 and does not complain that it needs FF3. Would have been nice if it warned me that it does not run on FF2. In any case, will try it out as soon as I download FF3. - Atul Arora

I grabbed it. I dig it. I will use it. Maybe RSS just needs to be looked at in a different light. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Kinda lame that it's Firefox only, for what I can tell is only so you don't have to feed it your Twitter/Friendfeed/Gmail/etc. credentials. Can't use fluid with it; will probably forget about it. - Mark Trapp

Thanks Louis. I just got the .xpi and trying it out. This might be something! - Kenichi Matsumoto

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Dude, I'm all over this freggin site... What a work of genius..my..head..is hurting...from...such...uber - Bwana ☠

Now you tell me, when I'm stuck in the Wal-Mart customer service line. - Phil Glockner from fftogo

Looks nice, but can't do it... I feel like I'm "cheating" on Google Reader. Plus, many things were giving me javascript errors. - Vince DeGeorge

WARNING: Using this added 450 feeds to my gReader!!! Screenshot coming... - Vince DeGeorge

@Vince, it creates folders for "feedly" on Google Reader, but there shouldn't be any duplication of feeds. Are you talking about net new feeds being added, or just them tracking your favorites? - Louis Gray

Ok, it's created three folders, z.feedly.favorites, z.feedly.people, z.feedly.seeded. It wasn't 450 feeds, it was 150 in three folders. http://www.flickr.com/photos... I thought it had caused major problems at first, but it looks manageable. I certainly wasn't expecting it... and scared me at first. - Vince DeGeorge

A warning would be nice from the Feedly folks about this. Not a showstopper, but I think letting the user know will ease the sting of coming on board. - Bwana ☠

Bwana and Vince, I agree. I told Edwin that during the alpha process, and thought it had been resolved. - Louis Gray

@vince, @bwana sorry for the scare. There is a warning about that in the first run page but will work on making it more explicit. Also note that the reason why there is a z.feedly.seeded tag is because we are working on adding an un-install procedure which will completely undo the effect of the feedly welcome wizard. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Excellent - Bwana ☠

Deleted my previous entry when seeing Edwin's response. Edwin, I apologize that I didn't see the warning - I tend to run headlong into things ;). Your quick response from feedback is excellent, which is very important! With that in mind - "no harm, no foul." - Vince DeGeorge

@atul feedly should work on firefox 2 as well. The reason we are pushing for the firefox 3 angle on the website is because we benefit from a lot of the performance optimizations done by firefox (and we are trying to see if we can leverage some of the momentum generated by firefox3 to get the word out). If you run into any problem on firefox 2, please log a ticket on http://www.getsatisfaction/feedly - Edwin Khodabakchian

@Mark Trapp you are right: the reason we have been focusing on firefox so far is that it allows us to do real-time aggregation more securely. It also allows us to off-load a lot of the processing to the client and opens the door to supporting xmpp in the future. I am not that familiar with fluid but will take a look (a couple of our users are using feedly on flock). - Edwin Khodabakchian

@louis. thank you for starting the conversation! - Edwin Khodabakchian

Another user of Fluid here. It supports userscripts, but I'm not sure if it has the sophistication of the Firefox plugin architecture - Bwana ☠

Working with this for the last thirty minutes. Very impressed. I actually like the feeds showing up in Google Reader. Excellent work Edwin. - Henry Burger

Wow, seriously how long has this been in the works? Still figuring out all the things it can do and how easily it does them. Very slick - Andrew Smith

damnit. I have to like it. An idea that I had in the works (the newpaper/magazine style layout) - great work, we'll see how things go. - Tim Hoeck

Wow, I have over 46000 unread articles. - Jason Wehmhoener

@edwink, I was just confused on FF2 as to how I should get started. When I tried it out on FF3, I clicked on the circular rss icon that the extension put on my menu bar. I will look for the same icon on FF2 and give it a spin. If I run into any problems, I will log a ticket. I completely understand the rationale for pushing the ff3 angle. My first impression is very positive. - Atul Arora

just a note, when my FF restarted, I didn't get to see the initial startup page, because I have session restore enabled. It killed the start page. Just look for the circular RSS button next to your address bar. - Tim Hoeck

Edwin, I got to say, I don't really understand your architectural decisions. You make most of the program local, yet you don't utilize your own storage for application data (instead, you insert all of Feedly's info on recommendations and people into my OPML file, which even if you're warning me I completely missed: it's not obvious). Yet, it's browser based, but I can only use a specific version of one browser (and only if I have the add on installed). - Mark Trapp

You've got competing metaphors here: if it's browser based, let me use it anywhere. If it's desktop based, don't force me to use a specific browser, and don't use my existing services as your data storage. - Mark Trapp

fixed. feedly has now a better msg and automated-undo http://edwink.devhd.com/2008... - Edwin Khodabakchian

@mark it is a browser extension to allow us to be more real-time, not have to touch people's credentials and be able to scale better. But it tries to leverage and integrate cloud services so that it feels more integrates and people can roam. - Edwin Khodabakchian

@mark we heard the point about being more explicit about the Google Reader integration and tried to address it today. The one thing to keep in mind is that although feedly is using the Google reader back end, we are not going after the google reader users (if some find it compelling, great) but we are instead to package all that is good in RSS and social sharing and try to see if we can re-invent a better start page for more mainstream users. This is beta1 and we are not yet there but that is our goal - Edwin Khodabakchian

Wow. Well done Edwin. I'm super impressed right now. - nealh

I'm using it since June/July'08 I think and I've always loved it. Nice to finally meet the creator's side after so much pleasure using it. Great review Louis btw, you got it good. ;p I simply didn't know it wasn't widely known. I would've suggested it a long time ago hehe. - Zu from AOD

Roger Kondrat

RT @centernetworks: i wish startups would stop getting their users to spam the crap out of twitter for a cheap prize - there are better ways

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Rob Diana

Google Begins Their Plan For Desktop Domination - http://regulargeek.com/2009...

January 28, 2009 from Regular Geek - Comment - Like - Share

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Yup,its desktop domination..But they stopped Notebook.Grrr - Igor Poltavskiy

Igor, Notebook was interesting, but I think they missed something there. I am thinking they want bookmarking and annotations but they have not figured out how to fit everything together. - Rob Diana

Google's key is social semantic search not desktop's moves. - Igor Poltavskiy

Andrew Smith

If you're considering a ski vacation to Whistler, you have 1 day left to "Book Early & Save" http://www.whistler.com/winter_...

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Cee Bee

and there ya have it folks!

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And here I thought it wasn't about race! LOL?????? - Akiva

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haha very good - Nice pic btw :) - Raymond Marr aka Knatchwa

Awesome! That pic is full of WIN! - Ladyepiphanybug

HAHAHAHA - Anna Haro

Whatever happened to having Presidents with beards and muttonchops? - Rob H.

Higher res: http://friendfeed.s3.amazonaws.com/ab6a3d6... - Brandon Titus

LOL it wouldn't so funny if it wasn't so sadly true - Jim Goldstein

Robert, clean shaven faces are considered more trustworthy in the modern aesthetic. Hence most heros in movies are clean shaven and villains have facial hair or scruff. - FFing Enigma

NICE - Carmen wBabby

Cool! - Farshid

I'd like to see what this looks like converted to black and white. =D - jerry

would love a credit on this...anybody? - martin ollman

I need a framed copy of this in the worst way. - Jason Toney

This is cool! - Steve Chou

Muttonchops are the best thing ever. I also like how Obama is smiling (very well illustrated I think). - Will Higgins™

I give him 6 months before he has white hair - Amit Morson

amit he already has a few shades of grey, which i don't remember him having even a year ago. its incredible what this kind of job does to a person - Cee Bee

Very nice. - Anthony K. Valley ©

Cee Bee: What's your source for this image? The world wants to know. - Anthony K. Valley ©

a friend sent it to me. i've since found the source. there's an even higher resolution version on the site: http://www.patrickmoberg.com/ - Cee Bee

Awesome! Thanks - Anthony K. Valley ©

That just makes me tear up to see. Thank you! - Karen Mohler

lol, didn't see this Ceebee apologies - Zee.

MG Siegler

iPhone 2.2 update due in a week and a half? http://venturebeat.com/2008...

November 11, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Robert Scoble

They have Cold Stone Creamery in China. One difference? They juggle the ice cream in the air for you. I'm still trying to figure out the difference between China and US. Other than some web sites don't work, not much.

November 7, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Hmm does the ice cream have melamine in it though? - Brian Sullivan

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Pics! - Spencer

Interesting - isn't it true that a majority of Asians (a majority of the world in fact) is lactose intolerant? - Brian Sullivan

A majority of Chinese are lactose intolerant and most don't even know it. Milk is for cows. Period. - Carolyn Chan

take your time: there's four or five thousand years more historical development there. - tom matrullo

I didn't bring my camera, but it looked pretty much like the American one. Brian, don't know. - Robert Scoble

Are you loving China? Isn't is fascinating! - Francine Hardaway

Brian: I don't know if the ice cream had melamine in it, but I doubt it. - Robert Scoble

please tell me you have video of chinese kids juggling ice cream in cold stone creamery... - Chris Hollander

wikipedia "The frequency of decreased lactase activity ranges from nearly 5% in northern Europe to more than 90% in some Asian and African countries" - Stowe Boyd

Chris, sorry, I didn't bring my camera equipment to dinner. - Robert Scoble

Are you/did you get jetlag? The Chinese love touristy things like Cold Stones as much as anyone. I had the same Melamine thought Brian did too! Also, I hear raw vegetables are pretty much out, as in some places they fertilize with human waste.Other then that though, I would love to try all the great food I'm sure you'll get to see. - Will Higgins™

Robert. I was in Shanghai in September. I had my mind blown away by the number of myths I held that were destroyed as a result. If you get a chance make sure you go to Hangzhou for a walk. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

Carolyn -- my understanding is that most of northern European descent (and descendants of a few other herding peoples around the world) are lactose tolerant as adults. Most infants everywhere are also lactose tolerant to age 4 as well. The cheese/milk related diets around the world came to prominence because of the imperialism of northern Europeans. - Brian Sullivan

The food in Shanghai is too sweet for me. - jho

Oh, and here's a good sign of what's different in China. http://bit.ly/j64K - jho

@Scoobie, this is a more profound comment than ANYTHING you said about politics. It also happens to be true. China rocks. Stick to your knitting. - Morgan Warstler

Will: I have had very little jet lag. Gregory: we talked at length about melamine tonight. If you eat at Western Restaurants most of their ingredients have been imported, so risk is low. Of course, if I drop dead in a week you know the truth. :-) - Robert Scoble

Morgan: hey, I predicted the political outcome quite accurately long before it happened and made $200 as a result. Politics and tech are pretty intertwined, so you'll hear more, although I'll try to keep it down to a minimum. I'm pretty tired of talking about politics. Oh, except, EVERYONE I meet here is an Obama fan, which is driving my producer batty because he supported McCain. I think it's quite funny. - Robert Scoble

Robert: don't be a wuss, eat out - the best places to eat are the local shops, especially the dirty ones'. Go eat of the street food. - clarke thomas

clarke: I will, although Rocky isn't into it. Last time I was here I got very sick at a Microsoft dinner, so there! (then I went to work for them which got back at them, I'm sure! Heheh). - Robert Scoble

genieyclo: the myth is partially correct. You need to be careful of where you eat here and avoid some foods. So far so good. - Robert Scoble

@robert, not even a cameraphone? you've changed... its like i don't even *know* you anymore!?!?! - Chris Hollander

Chris: my cameraphone has a dead battery. I forgot my other camera, sorry. - Robert Scoble

i can confirm Robert has very little jet lag. he only knocked out for a little while in the cab yesterday. heh. it's a ton of fun having him and Rocky in China. - Christine Lu

How many people have you seen that are overweight? I guess not many. That'll be a big difference between the countries. - Toby Graham

Toby: not many overweight people are here, but more than last time. The country is getting wealthier and is importing more western eating habits. The kids are overweight here, too, albeit not at same rates as US ones. - Robert Scoble

genieyclo: You do have to be careful. In places like China or Mexico, locals have built up immunities to bacteria that you may not necessarily have. So no street food unless you want to chance being very very sick. - jho

My friend from Beijing always cautioned when eating in China, "don't eat any meat without a back bone in it." hmmm - Susan Beebe

if you tip them will they sing like in the U.S. stores? - Randy Ksar from twhirl

Randy: yes they do sing. It's just like US. - Robert Scoble

Robert: In English? - Carolyn Chan

Bret Taylor

xkcd - Election - http://xkcd.com/500/

November 4, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Thanks for pointing out the alt-text. It's funnier than the comic. - Piaw Na

This was already happening on the news last night. Gotta talk about SOMEthing, right? - Josh Haley

MG Siegler

Finally voted

November 4, 2008 from email - Comment - Like - Share

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Where do we get this shirt? :-) - Louis Gray

something is wrong with friendfeed. i can only "like" this once - Mickipedia

dual like noted Micki - MG Siegler

@louis at the awesome store. - MG Siegler

Ontario Emperor

How Obama is to the right in an Australian sense - http://www.duncanriley.com/2008...

November 1, 2008 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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This observation about Obama being relatively right also applies to Britain, France and Canada as well. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

MG Siegler

The Outfit

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hot. - Derrick

let's put a smile on that face! - MG Siegler

Imagining somebody asking a patient "Why so serious?" in this outfit... - The Fat Oracle

creepy! - Jon-Paul Bussoli

thanks for the nightmares... - Far

No. - WoH: Minding her Steves

Nice tights, MG. - Louis Gray

Try as you might -- even in a sexy nurse outfit -- I just can't find Molly Ringwald attractive. - Rob Reed

amazing amazing amazing. - drew olanoff

Scott Beale

So if you were forced to choose between going to see Dane Cook or Carrot Top, which one would you pick?

October 31, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Poking out of the eyeballs. - Carla Thompson

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Christ, isn't that like against the Geneva Conventions or something? - Victor Ganata

i have no idea who dane cook is, though i've heard his name a lot. y'all ain't selling him. - Anika

Sophie's Choice - Derrick

Now there's a death match I'd pay to see... - Jay Cuthrell

A lobotomy. -

Dane Cook. - Rochelle

Carrot Top. Dane Cook is to comedy what bubonic plague is to sex. - Akiva

Carrot Top. Dude is chiseled. Might be afraid of him pounding on me for going to see someone else. - Julian

Mike Doeff

Griffin in his Whinnie the Pooh costume - http://www.flickr.com/photos...

October 31, 2008 from Flickr - Comment - Like - Share

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Richard Chen

This is 1987 calling. Can we have our stock market crash back?

October 31, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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GREAT costume :) - Bret Taylor

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Thanks! Having a very tough time explaining to kids, however. - Richard Chen

Excellent hair! Are you wearing an extra battery pack? - Bill Sodeman

key question - where did you get that phone? - Charles Hudson

Hahahaha....good un :) - The Fat Oracle

++++ - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

very funny. love the "power wig" - Cee Bee

Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Little dude's first Halloween!

October 31, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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hehe thank you! he did - if for no other reason than the fact that he had a tail and a pair of ears for most of the day lol - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

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awww... :)) - Anna Haro

@terence between tigger and poo bear you'd be hard pressed to convince me there are cuter costumes in existence for babies - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

OMG LOVE - Mona Nomura

Quite the cutie!1! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

Matt Cutts

Here's my 2008 Halloween Costume: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog...

October 31, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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You really need to click through to get the full Rick Astley Halloween costume experience. - Matt Cutts

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Something is broken at http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ now in firefox, no sidebar, no other posts. Works fine in IE however. - John Honeck

Awesome! - Paul Buchheit

@John I think the audio embed is breaking it (also in Chome it breaks) - Jorge Escobar

Yup, I couldn't find a trivial way to embed that worked in Firefox and Chrome, but it's worth it to get the audio for a day. - Matt Cutts

Matt Cutts

Ah, I forgot to pre-debunk the "Dude, Google claims that they own everything you do in Chrome!" conspiracy. Debunked that last night in a Mashable comment and then again this morning: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... . Sheesh.

September 3, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Chromium snapshots: http://build.chromium.org/buildbo... (the license is BSD) - Ionut

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I also debunked this in my "common Chrome conspiracy theories" post at http://bit.ly/3CLLwe too. - Matt Cutts

Thanks for setting us straight Matt! - Anne Haynes

When we are discussing legal documents, it's the verbiage that matters, not the intent. As long as clauses 11.1 and 11.2 are in the EULA, they have full effect. - Franci Penov

that is how Mozilla reads it and why they are not scared - Fred Grott

I have a feeling they actually launched Chrome too early and simply did not have time for such a stupid legal thing. Unfortunately for a company attracting attention like Google does it is something to avoid. - Svetlana Gladkova

why all the google bashing? Chrome SHOULD be a more secure browser than FF when Google is finished.. isn't it still in beta? hello? - paisley from twhirl

Yes Matt, but then why the legal language that says otherwise in the TOC? What Google say and what they did are two different things here and the law upholds what is written. - Sally Church

Most times I'm really glad I'm not in Matt's shoes. Other times i think it would be pretty neat to have 'a view' at the Plex :) - Charlie Anzman

Sally Church, that's why I'm glad we changed the TOS/EULA. - Matt Cutts

Paul Buchheit

Tiny new feature: Twitter #things are now links.

August 11, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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Unfortunately I forgot who requested this... - Paul Buchheit

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Interesting that it does a Twitter search on the word with the #.. I was expecting this to take me to hashtags.org. Multiple possibilities I suppose. - Matt Hooper

Cool. Thanks! (It wasn't me who requested it...) - Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™

Would hashtags.org make more sense? Twitter search seems more comprehensive. - Paul Buchheit

I agree with having it use Summize. - Hao Chen

@Paul no, hashtags.org not necessarily more sensible, no. Instinctively that was what I was expecting, thassall :) On looking at the search results via Twitter (Summize) search I realise now that this is in effect replacing the use of hashtags.org for keyword tracking anyway. - Matt Hooper

Vincent, it looks like your link worked (http://friendfeed.com/e... ), unfortunately twitter search seems to be down at the moment :( - Paul Buchheit

It worked for me mere seconds ago... - Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™

Dang... Maybe I broke it. :-( - Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™

Thanks Paul :) - Baris Bulut

Summize also works, although instinctively I was with Matt - Deepak Singh

finally!! - Dieter Schwarz

Mark Trapp

Photography of the Beijing Olympics Opening Ceremonies - http://gizmodo.com/5034813...

August 8, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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From Gizmodo: "While we're waiting until tonight to see NBC's delayed rebroadcast of the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games, we can show you some of the most beautiful images from the event. An incredible full-field scroll, projection sphere and LED suits transcend to create what looks to have been one of the, if not the, most stunning mass displays of lighting technology in history." - Mark Trapp from Bookmarklet

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I watched it live and it was brilliant. I didn't understand most of what the dancing and jumping around represented but the pyrotechnics and the lighting of the torch were spectacular. And my favourite part as always was the marching past of all the the different teams. - Rahul Das

Like like like. Can't wait to watch this tonight. @Rahul no one ever understands the dancing and jumping around but they're guaranteed to be in every opening ceremony. : ) - Carla Thompson

it's totally ridiculous that we couldn't watch this live here in the usa. we need commercials during prime time to keep us busy - Cee Bee

Cee Bee, you just hit on why I stopped watching the Olympics. It is all taped and prepackaged by the most annoying sports bureau on earth. Give it to ESPN and let them run it all live and would watch again - RAPatton

rapatton - you BRETT FAVRE cna say BRETT FAVRE with a straight BRETT FAVRE face that ESPN BRETT FAVRE isn't the most annoying BRETT FAVRE sports bureau on BRETT FAVRE earth? - Richard Lawler from twhirl

Just watched it live and recorded it using SageTv. It is brillaint!!! I agree with RAPatton that good coverage is essential - the BBC did a excellent job. - Roberto Bonini

http://isohunt.com/downloa... just sayin' - Josh Haley

That was fast!! - Roberto Bonini

Saw it too. AMAZING. And the torch/cauldron lighting--a must see. Stunning. I can't wait to see it tonight on my HD TV - Andrew Leyden

I wish I could see it in HD. I'm away from home now. Does anybody know if it'll be replayed later or if someone will have a torrent up with an HD version? - Brandon Titus

+1000 for the torch lighting. These guys seriously know how to put on a show - Josh Haley

Leo Laporte

I was able to revive the iPhone with a hard restore. Wonder how often I'm going to have to do this?

July 22, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Hopefully not often :-/ I'm looking at getting an iphone this sunday for the first time, but with stories like this i'm mildly reluctant. - Shaun Bevill

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reminds me of my days with my pocket pc. the pretty to look at ipaq 4350. the problem was it'd dump all my data when it crashed and the only way back was a hard restore. - sean808080

It seems with these smart phones the more apps you install the more unstable they get. - Steve Helder from twhirl

more you install the more unstable they get? Sounds like the average Windows PC! - Ian May from twhirl

A lot of iPhone apps guys are saying v. 2.0 of the software was rushed and that v 2.1 (due very shortly) should be much more stable. - Andrew Leyden

Never had such problem before 2.0 on my 2G iphone. The thing is jailbroken 1.4 iphone was a lot more stable than current 2.0 one. It rarely crashed and had very little lags. Apple needs to learn from hacking community I guess. - Inksim

Mine is throwing "No SIM card installed" errors. Going to try a restore but I'm betting I need a replacement... - Lisa McMillan

before I bought my first Nokia's top-of-th-line smartphone back in 1995 I had thought that Symbian rocks, but it failed me many times including crashing while having phone conversation! - Pajama Domain from twhirl

opps I meant 2005 :) - Pajama Domain from twhirl

Many people are reporting that a hard restore and starting from scratch fixes the problems. So far so good on my phone. - Leo Laporte

Karma got you Leo. You told Belmont that your phone was fine when she was bemoaning her iPhone woes. - Jeff Jones

Too many apps? Also I only had a few hundred MB free. We'll see! - Leo Laporte

I tweeted back, it sounds like a software refresh coming for the early adopters. Apple shipped too quick without giving them a beating like we would.. hmm blog posting coming - Chris Miller

I had to do it a couple times with my iPhone 2G. I also had it get into some sort of crazy infinite loop once the screen wouldn't go off and it got blazing hot. I left it on my lap hoping it would catch fire, instructing those around me to have their camera's and lawyers cell numbers readily available. - Geoff Schultz {TF}

Remember when you didnt have to restore phones? - Will from Alert Thingy

I predict 2 years...coincidentally the same length as your service contract. :P - Stresa from twhirl

Not often! oh btw i love twitter in the i check out .. Twitter/pickensplan - Bearclawcoffee

I'm not keeping count, but it's a lot more with 2.0 software than before. My unreliable impression: it used to be every few months. Now it's every few days. (on first gen HW) - Michael Markman

I'm having problems with 2G w/ 2.0 that I think are MobileMe related, yesterday push contacts stopped working for awhile, today I'm not getting email - Robert Hafer

Mine hung this morning as I was trying to power it down. Right after syncing some new apps via tether. Holding down the home and power buttons for a few seconds seemed to reset it. Hope Apple stabilizes this soon. - wrecks

Logging into MobileMe fixed my problems both times - Robert Hafer

It looks like I'm going to have to do it too. I only had four apps on my phone, but my 3G isn't working properly (returning mysterious error messages) and after an hour with tech support and a call to apple the only solution offered is a hard restore. - Briana Tomkinson

Shaun I think most people having problems were upgrading from 2G iPhones. The 3G is my first and Ive had no problems other than the rare crash - Paul Reynolds

Leo, I think you are right about upgrading apps via wireless, I just tried and it broke the app. The iPhone switched from wi-fi to edge during update. - Robert Hafer

I'm leaving on a 10 day trip and mine better not act up while I'm gone from my synching computer!! - Shayna from StumbleRead

Hutch Carpenter

Off for a Week’s Vacation - http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008...

August 1, 2008 from I'm Not Actually a Geek - Comment - Like - Share

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Have fun! - Mark Trapp

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Enjoy your vacation Hutch! - Mike Fruchter

I'm jealous! Enjoy! - Justin Korn

Thanks guys. I may check in here a bit, assuming my spiffy new iPhone gets 3G in Oahu. - Hutch Carpenter

Have a great time! -

Good Times!!! - Anna Haro

Have fun and come back with some photos :) - Sudar

Oahu .... ahhhh. Have fun man - Charlie Anzman

I won't like it.... because I am jealous :) Enjoy! - Tim Hoeck

vacation? what's that again? - Duncan Riley

Have a great time! - Mitchell Tsai

Enjoy the break Hutch! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Have a great trip Hutch! - Shey

Congrats and Enjoy!! - Susan Beebe

enjoy! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Awesome!! Have a great time. :-) - CJ

MG Siegler

Search the term "gay" in Google. Just do it.

June 17, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Funny. Colorful. - Mohamed J

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surprising! - Jon-Paul Bussoli

I hope we don't start seeing things like that everywhere. And if we do, I hope CustomizeGoogle can get rid of them. - Jake (aka Jawee) from twhirl

I can never seem to get over how awesome Google is - Steve Isaacs

That's excellent! - John F Morton

Oh that's the best thing ever. - Carla Thompson

@Brandon, at least you get ads. Googling "black" doesn't return any ads at all. However we are told a related search is "black jokes." Well, at least there's no ads for fried chicken 'n malt liquor. Progress! (raises Black Power fist) - Karim

Pretty. 8-) - Jack&Cleo

As an exclusively hetero guy, I'd like to say this is kinda cool. :) - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)

great, although now "gay" is in my google web history. hope my family never sees that. - Chris Harris

I didn't get it at first, then after reading the comments I disabled Adblock. - Vezquex

love it! - Danielle

beautiful - raincloudcat

aww, that is cute. I like that. they need to do that for some other searches @Brandon, agreed about the ad content, but I love that rainbow, that's nice. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

yes, it is darling. - edythe

I searched for "straight" and... nothing. :-) - Louis Gray

@Brandon W: didn't notice that. yeah, not so great. not to plug, but you're not supposed to see that on Yahoo! search. because we don't consider "gay" by itself an adult term. and...Karim strikes again. - edythe

All results are duplicates. - TranceMist

As the only Gay in the Village (whoever gets that reference gets a virtual kiss), I find the rainbow flag pretty obnoxious. In fact, I burned one once in some frakin performance piece. But that's just me. BTW how did I miss this thread? - Rick Powell

Louis Gray

Take a Google Reader Shared Item Viral Using Notes - http://www.louisgray.com/live...

August 1, 2008 from louisgray.com - Comment - Like - Share

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This is a great idea Louis, but I don't think it will pan out (although I hope it does). I think this is something that will have need to be implemented in the backend somehow. Maybe this could be automated, a greasemonkey script or something? - Tim Hoeck

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It probably won't, due to the fact not everyone is on Google Reader, not everybody is subscribed to my link blog, and not everybody cares, but I just thought it a fun experiment. If it fails, then it shows what little influence I have. :-) - Louis Gray

Louis - not sure you've noticed yet but I am getting timeouts connecting to your site right now? - Matt Hooper

Yes, that's due to SiteMeter vs. Internet Explorer. I'm stripping the SiteMeter code right now. - Louis Gray

Well, I just did it. It will be interesting to see how far it goes. - Kevin Bondelli

Nice thought, shared now. I don't really use my Reader Shared but it's never too late, i hope i got the note part right, is there an edit option once you post? - Majento

I shared your post with a note, but it hasn't appeared here yet... - Jemm

@Joni click "Edit/add" on your services and refresh your reader feed - Majento

I'm in. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

@Majento: Thanks, it did the trick :) - Jemm

Good luck on the experiment. - Mitchell Tsai

won't hurt to try! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Interesting idea. Another limitation is that at the moment it seems the "Share with Notes" button only appear in the english version of Google Reader, but not if you set your language to anything else (or at least not if you set your language to French). - Antoine Bertier

I would do this but since I'm so caught up in social|median right now I didn't read this item in gReader and I don't have the bookmarklet installed in this browser. Not so dedicated to the cause as to launch gReader just for your experiment. Sorry. - Jon Price

my friends and I use "share with note" to discuss articles - we preface with "Shareback to (username)" - TxVoodoo

Mike Fruchter

The unlimited power of social media is bound by my human limitations « Alexander van Elsas’s Weblog on new media & technologies and their effect on social behavior - http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2008...

August 1, 2008 from Diigo - Comment - Like - Share

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great article; especially the 7 bullet points. - linkman77

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His blog is a must read, I'm glad you enjoy it as much as I do. - Mike Fruchter

Thanks guys, really appreciate it :-) - Alexander van Elsas

I'm digesting this post now, will add some thoughts on it later today. Thank you Alexander :) - Mike Fruchter

Great, I'll be looking forward to that ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

Rebkin, thank you for you nice compliment - Alexander van Elsas

My consumption is the complete opposite. I feel like I always have to be engaged and involved in social media, this has been the case on Friendfeed for me for the past 5 months. I feel that the constant river of content will pass me by, if I am not their to participate in it immediately, either by liking or commenting or sharing. In the beginning I was very focused on consuming massive... more... - Mike Fruchter

,comment on and like as well. It's only as of lately I am realizing that this river will still be here, with or with out me, and that I can jump in at any time. I don't have to be first any more, I can start to sit back watch and lets things marinate a while. - Mike Fruchter

Mike: I completely agree with you albeit on a much smaller scale. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

Jon-Paul, did you feel that the river was becoming too overwhelming? I'm curious now :) - Mike Fruchter

subscribed :) - Tim Hoeck

ditto Tim - Thanks Mike for the 'find'. It's always changing. - Charlie Anzman

Mike thank you for your explanation. It's good to see that we all take different and similar approaches to deal with this. I tend to use Google Reader to follow people closely (they need to blg of course). But I use other type of aggregators (such as FF) more like a river I dip in. Works best for me. There is always great content to be found and it helps me discover new people. - Alexander van Elsas

Tim, Charlie, thx ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

Alexander van Elsas

The unlimited power of social media is bound by my human limitations - http://vanelsas.wordpress.com/2008...

August 1, 2008 from Alexander van Elsas's Weblog... - Comment - Like - Share

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Louis says: "Being Louis Gray or Robert Scoble probably isn’t that much different than being Alexander van Elsas." I responded "Ha ha Louis, I doubt it. I am still amazed at the incredible amounts of readings and interactions you (and Robert) are capable of handling. And have time for twins and your own blog. I have a lot of respect for that. You even had time to read this post ;-) The force is with you my friend!" - Alexander van Elsas

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nothing wrong with long posts Alexander, it's just that rarely someone can make me read them with interest till the very end - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Dobromir I hope you made it to the end of this one then ;-). I'm interested to hear what you guys think about this metaphore of social media spam and how you end up dealing with it? ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

oh absolutely the hidden msg in the comment was that you're one of the blogers who keep me untill th eend of the post :-) ... - Dobromir Hadzhiev

SM spam I don't think it's all that bad, unlike mail spam it's up to us to decide how much we get, the beauty of rich topics sharer is it help gain interest in topics other than the my primary (tech) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Dobromir, I don't agree. I have very limited control over the amount of content I get to see on Friendfeed for example. The fast amount of content makes early adopters look for tech solutions that are mail-spam like. We are looking for trust filters, noise filters, friend filters, content filters, hide options, block options. Sounds familiar? That's what we did to try and get our inbox under control. But the problem isn't on the receiving end. Social Media aggregation is more fundamentally flawed. - Alexander van Elsas

indeed filters are necessity, but it just show people are starting to USE the web, the numbers of participant will only grow from now on, yes it has downsides, but the world is changing. Right now we're all learning how to deal with the change - Dobromir Hadzhiev

I'd rather not have filters, wouldn't use them if possible. I simply dive in and out every once in a while and accept that I can't see all the goodies ;-) I believe that the way things are shared and aggregated lead to an enormous amount of (abundant) content flowing in all directions. It's not very efficient imo. That is why an intended share is often much more valuable. - Alexander van Elsas

@Sachendra says on Twitter: @vanelsas takes a lot of courage to go against the flow, yours is one of the few voices I care about. I responded: @sachendra Thank you! But honestly, it doesn't feel like going against he flow, I always just try to look at things from a user perspective. - Alexander van Elsas

Alexander, the user perspective is something that tends to be missed. When I say user I mean non-early adopters. Granted this is my current bitchmeme, so good timing. As usual a fantastic post. - Rob Diana

Rob thank you. What is really weird about it is that this thinking is natural to anyone except early adopters it seems. We early adapters are willing to take the sh*t as it comes, which is weird. In the end we are too just users that need value ;-) Try explaining something like Friendfeed to you wife, I did. It takes her 10 sec or so to start laughing at me and put me with 2 feet on the ground again. I simply learned to look at it from that perspective too, it works just fine ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

Hmm, that almost sounded like I don't use services that my wife doesn't like ;-) The point is, if I can't explain the value of a service in 10 secs to someone not familiar with the service, that is already an indication that I'm not so sure it has all that value to myself - Alexander van Elsas

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