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Martin Fenner
Moving article-level metrics forward - http://network.nature.com/people...
That is a good point - the PubMed version of the article will take away from the article metrics. So we shouldn't take them too seriously but they are better than the dominant system in place right now. - Jean-Claude Bradley
Andrew Lang
Sortase A Inhibition By Ugi Products (Complex) - http://www.slideshare.net/AndrewL...
Sortase A Inhibition By Ugi Products (Complex)
I wouldn't say Ugi products form within minutes or seconds - at least the ones we do take hours or even days - Jean-Claude Bradley
I took that from a quote, "The exothermic U-4CR usually proceeds fast, within seconds or a few minutes at room temperature or below." from an article: Alexander Dömling, Ivor Ugi. Multicomponent Reactions with Isocyanides. Angew. Chem. Int. Ed. 2000, 39, 3181. I do agree with you that it does take longer than that for the product to precipitate. - David Bulger
interesting David - I don't think we are using unusual reactants - Jean-Claude Bradley
Claudia Koltzenburg
? any author here who uses, e.g., WebCite http://www.webcitation.org/, for sustainable references of multimedia files?
I am planning to use WebCite for my thesis. - 'Mummi' Thorisson
I use WebCite, but it caused considerable confusion the one time I did so in a formal publication. I sent a letter to the editor at Haematologica, and after several rounds of cluelessness I simply gave up. Part of the cluelessness was that they clearly did not understand WebCite, and wanted me to "verify the date on which I accessed the cited web resources" or some such. Dinosaurs. - Bill Hooker
I 'm afraid there is so many Dinosaurs in our world of Science , especially in medical community ..:( - Ana Ivkovic
I've got some webcite used in a paper coming soon in a PLoS Journal near you - unfortunately they caught my slightly sneaking citations and pushed them into the main text body rather than the references but nonetheless it is a useful service. - Cameron Neylon
thank you, none of my tests has given any positive results for multimedia files, though, did this work out for yours? - Claudia Koltzenburg
No I didn't try with multimedia - as I've not got it to work in the past. Webcite just archives an html copy as I understand it, so multimedia wouldn't be expected to work. Its a problem. - Cameron Neylon
Claudia - as you've just seen http://ff.im/aW3GI we did archive Excel files - I would imagine multimedia files such as m4v might work too - although you would need to supply the viewer - Jean-Claude Bradley
this sounds like a splendid idea, Jean-Claude, has anyone tried this out yet - supplying the viewer? would this actually be done during the archiving procedure on the WebCite server? - Claudia Koltzenburg
not that I know of Claudia - Jean-Claude Bradley
Mickey Schafer
A tech question -- is anyone using web-based file storage? If so, what company would you recommend as host?
What do you want to store? Bits and bobs or lots of stuff? I use google doc for bits and prices dropbox is useful as it has an iPhone app. - Jo Badge from iPod
How big of files are you thinking about? - Holly Rae, FFer
Hell yes. For me, photos -> flickr, audio -> divshare, video -> youtube/vimeo, PDF's -> Mendeley/scribd and google docs for various other bits 'n bobs. - Graham Steel
SlideShare, SciVee (vids), Scribd (pdfs), Flickr, YouTube, lots of GoogleDocs and Wikispaces will take up to 10Meg misc files - Jean-Claude Bradley
favorites are dropbox (good file sync) box.net (webdav standard support) drop.io (quick, easy) and wuala (free limit is high). specialized storage by file type such as flickr for images or gdocs for docs is also a good option, and there are some utilities that can help synchronize with these services - Mike Chelen
Google docs for documents, Mozy for backup, dropbox for sync across computers - Pedro Beltrao
Junlgedisk for archival, dropbox for "hot" content. - Deepak Singh from iPhone
Jungle disk for big files, documents etc. I also use google docs and dropbox for convenience. - ashish
Ooh - dropbox seems rather handy. Thanks. On Desktop now..... - Graham Steel
Any specific suggestions for podcasts/sharing? - Allan Besselink
I use ADrive for pretty much everything. If sharing, will host things on Slideshare, Scribd, Flickr, YouTube, etc. But if it is just for me ... ADrive. Free accounts get something like 50 GB. Podcasts get hosted with Archive.org. - Miss Elle
Allan, I use vanilla S3 for all my podcasts in combination with Cloudfront for edge delivery. - Deepak Singh
Dropbox for a collaborative document share. Wiggio.com for inter-institutional share and collaboration tool. I belong to a group that uses a pogoplug, too, which has been a boon (the trick is where to host it). - Jason Miller
JungleDisk on the Mac - off-site backups of docs + family photos - 'Mummi' Thorisson
Also a Jungle Disk user -- have a workgroup account with all partners and customers having partitions. Use it for backup, transfer of large files (audio, video, lesson packages) to and from internal people and customers. - Brian Sullivan
Dropbox for keeping the contents of a directory sync'd across computers & sharing private pics, Flickr for public pics, slideshare from PPTs and Mendeley for docs. - Mr. Gunn
Thanks so much! Here's a link (though most of you don't need it:-)) that reviews some of these products: http://www.consumersearch.com/online-... -- For me, I am looking to back up everything on 3 computers at home. "Kids" computer used to be mine, and has all the family photos on it -- just 2005 is in excess of 4GB (or so says the flash drive which is full). It seems as... more... - Mickey Schafer
mediafire - ffcode
thanks Mickey you had a good subscriptions list, subscribed to a few of the active folks - ffcode
Miss Elle: ADrive looks kind of cool, FTP can come in handy - Mike Chelen
Mickey: if there is 4gb this year, how much data is there in total? it may be worthwhile to also keep local backups, since 8gb or 16gb memory sticks only cost $20-$30, and external hard disk drives are coming down in price too - Mike Chelen
Mickey - From what it sounds like you want to do, a pogoplug (hardware) might be really great for you. http://www.pogoplug.com - Jason Miller
Thanks, Mike -- that's basically what I was thinking. Maybe a larger GB flash drive for each year, but a combo of external hard drive and online back up for everything. The kids' computer needs ghosting...I'll be able to get Windows 7 for about $12.00 in a few weeks (faculty price) and will likely use it to restore that computer to better functioning. - Mickey Schafer from email
Jason, what a totally cool device! - Mickey Schafer from email
For those who'd still like to explore, the suggestions made here are at http://delicious.com/msscha... -- features to look for seem to be amount of free space (ranges from 1GB to 50GB), share features, file syncing (only a couple do that), upgrade service cost (in all, much less expensive than I expected), mobile apps, and whether there's a desktop component (I don't get this... more... - Mickey Schafer
it is a mistake to keep you personal dta on servers on web first it is very difficult to delete that data and other there is a possibility that data can be stolen - ffcode
@Jason is there a pogo plug available in UK? - Anna Croft
@AnnaCroft - Not sure. Id' poke around on their site to see. On it, I saw what looked like a portal to twitter, and I saw some German tweets. That would make me hopeful that the product is available outside the US. Please post what you find out. - Jason Miller
Anna -- I've also seen French tweets -- here's the product spec page: http://www.pogoplug.com/meet... -- voltage specs are "Power requirements: 100-240V, 50/60HZ" -- the rest relates to OS, internet, browsers, etc so should cross the ocean just fine. - Mickey Schafer
Mr. Gunn
Our Team | World Association of Young Scientists - http://www.ways.org/en...
Our Team | World Association of Young Scientists
"Daniel Mietchen - Open Science Policy Director" Congrats, Daniel! - Mr. Gunn from Bookmarklet
Thanks. As for the site being cluttered, we welcome suggestions. - Daniel Mietchen
Just an initial impression: "Oh, this is a site talking about some initiative. Oh, wait, there's a forum and a place to register so maybe the...wait, here's an activity stream from members!" Seems like the front page is going in a bunch of different directions at once. - Mr. Gunn
You certainly got a point there but the site is indeed an umbrella platform for initiatives that go into very different directions, e.g. http://pyrn.ways.org/ and http://giraf-iffd.ways.org/ , and the parent site aggregates that content and provides the forum to discuss matters of interest across the different initiatives. - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel Mietchen
What would research funding look like if it were invented today? Let's start collecting materials. (via http://friendfeed.com/danielm... ).
The basic structure for this part iii of the "what would X look like if invented today" series is in the mind map at http://www.mindmeister.com/3016825... , with background via http://friendfeed.com/search... . Main points: More flexibility in the models of funding, more attention to technological shifts in the way people (including scientists) communicate. Such has also been argued at http://ff.im/9GGRn and http://2020science.org/2009... . - Daniel Mietchen
Just noticed that we used different notions of "public funding environments" in the mind map so far. What I had in mind was to have "funding environments" in public, much like what fundscience.org plan to do. Some of the added comments seem to have used the term in the sense of environments for "public funding". Both notions are certainly valid, and we should think of ways to keep them apart. - Daniel Mietchen
good point re making this difference clear(er) in the map - Claudia Koltzenburg
I would like to see a lot more funding of contests - Jean-Claude Bradley
Yes, Jean-Claude, contests and prizes with a competitive element are definitely on the list. If you have good examples from the recent past, please post them here. - Daniel Mietchen
"More money for science is always good. Or is it? Six experts tell Nature what concerns them most about the US stimulus spending and suggest ways to ensure that it benefits research and society in the long term." - http://www.nature.com/nature... - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel -for a recent example of a contest for research: http://onschallenge.wikispaces.com/ - Jean-Claude Bradley
Thanks, Jean-Claude. It is noted along with http://www.claymath.org/millenn... and http://www.xprize.org/ as an effort to make the chain from achievement to award both shorter and more transparent than currently usual. - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel - the thing I like about contests is that barrier to participation is orders of magnitude lower than traditional funding - there is no need to convince anyone that what you are attempting will actually work before doing anything. Of course this limits the type of projects that can be run but it still applies to a large number. - Jean-Claude Bradley
Has there been any recent follow-up study to "Activities, costs and funding flows in the scholarly communications system" at http://www.rin.ac.uk/our-wor... ? - Daniel Mietchen
The Wellcome Trust weighs in on reforming science funding: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story... - see also http://ff.im/bljS1 . - Daniel Mietchen
thanks for the pointer, Daniel - Claudia Koltzenburg
Steve Koch
A Differential Effect of Heavy Water on Temperature-Dependent and Temperature-Compensated Aspects of the Circadian System of Drosophila pseudoobscura — PNAS - http://www.pnas.org/content...
1973 study of D2O on circadian rhythms. A good quote from introduction: "Many subsequent studies, the most important of which are those of Suter and Rawson (2) and Enright (3), indicate this effect of D20 is widespread: it lengthens r in unicellulars (1), green plants (4), isopods (3), insects (Caldarola, in preparation), birds (5, 6), mice, and hamsters (2, 5, 7, 8). The effect is clearly widespread and since no exceptions have been found in 12 cases, it is likely to be truly general. As several authors have noted, it therefore merits closer study as a potential clue to the physical nature of the cellular oscillation responsible for circadian rhythmicity." - Steve Koch
@Bora, here's one for you! - Steve Koch
This paper has a fantastic introduction that succinctly reviews all the ways in which deuterium can affect enzymatic properties. I haven't looked at any of the papers it cites, but the way in which they outline it is very much in line with what I've been thinking now. - Steve Koch
Oh yes, this one is a classic in the field. - Bora Zivkovic
Gotta like every drosi paper on FF :-) - Björn Brembs
Thanks for letting me know it's a classic, Bora! I'm not surprised, but on the other hand, it's only been cited 7 times this century...and 40 times over all...what's with that? - Steve Koch
Old paper in a small field. Very little was done since then on chemical influences - early on, people figured out that most chemicals and drugs did not affect the clock - except for heavy water and lithium. Thus they focused on other things - light, temperature, social entrainment, and later, of course, to figuring out the genetics and molecular biology. Only now some people are getting back to pharmaceuticals..... - Bora Zivkovic
Thanks, Bora! - Steve Koch
Brian Krueger - LabSpaces
Exoplanets clue to sun's curious chemistry - http://www.labspaces.net/100598...
"This result also provides the astronomers with a new, cost-effective way to search for planetary systems: by checking the amount of lithium present in a star astronomers can decide which stars are worthy of further significant observing efforts." - Andrew Lang
Andrew Lang
Second Life Duty Is Now Required for Penn State's Online Advisers - http://chronicle.com/blogPos...
I wonder how much backlash they will get from students who really don't want to do it. - Jean-Claude Bradley
It is mandatory for the advisors - optional for the students. - Andrew Lang
thanks Andy - I didn't catch that - Jean-Claude Bradley
Shirley Wu
Procrastination can be your friend - http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog...
Interesting... that means that I find writing grant applications boring like ... well, that could be about right. Unfortunately, I cannot drop it... :( - Egon Willighagen
Mike Chelen
Scratchpads: a data-publishing framework to build, share and manage information on the diversity of life - http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-21...
"We describe the system architecture and template design of "Scratchpads", a data-publishing framework for groups of people to create their own social networks supporting natural history science. Scratchpads cater to the particular needs of individual research communities through a common database and system architecture. This is flexible and scalable enough to support multiple networks, each with its own choice of features, visual design, and constituent data. Our data model supports web services on standardised data elements that might be used by related initiatives such as GBIF and the Encyclopedia of Life. A Scratchpad allows users to organise data around user-defined or imported ontologies, including biological classifications. Automated semantic annotation and indexing is applied to all content, allowing users to navigate intuitively and curate diverse biological data, including content drawn from third party resources. A system of archiving citable pages allows stable referencing with unique identifiers and provides credit to contributors through normal citation processes." - Mike Chelen from Bookmarklet
pretty slick - Jean-Claude Bradley
Daniel Mietchen
Open Science session accepted for ESOF 2010 - http://ways.org/en...
Two proposals for the Euroscience Open Forum 2010 have been submitted by Eurodoc and accepted on Nov 10, 2009: "What would science look like if it were invented today? " This will be a debate on how new communication tools such as wikis and other collaborative environments, blogs and microblogs can enrich scientific communication, how public post-publication peer review and contribution-based metrics can work. Special focus will be put on how young researchers can benefit from Open Access and Science 2.0 tools. More information on the topic can be found here. "New comparable data on young researcher's mobility patterns available: What are the consequences for European Research Policy?" This will be a presentation of the Eurodoc survey with special focus on mobility issues. In addition, Massimo Serpieri from the European Commission will report on other related studies. More information on the topic can be found here. Information on... - Daniel Mietchen
Antony Williams
Our RSC Lab on a Chip Article is Free Access immediately - http://www.chemspider.com/blog...
congrats Tony and Sean! very nice that's it is public - Jean-Claude Bradley
thanks for the link - I'm adding this under the compilation section of my cheminfo retrieval class http://getcheminfo.wikispaces.com/resourc... - Jean-Claude Bradley
Bora Zivkovic
ScienceOnline2010 - introducing the participants - http://scienceblogs.com/clock...
fyi, I'm really enjoying these. There's no way I'd read through the registration list, but this way I get a good feel for who's coming. - Bill Hooker
Thank you. That's the idea: I assume many will not slog through the whole list, so this way, piecemeal, one gets introduced to everyone. - Bora Zivkovic
Bill Hooker
Unlocking the Cloud Means Open Data - http://ostatic.com/blog...
pq - "If the data obtained via crawlers and APIs can be used, only then does the lock-in of data go away. And, of course, the ideal foundation for such software is open source -- allowing users to publish and subscribe to information with as many data standards as possible. Some of these good fellows really exist". So the desire and necessity of gaining back control over data, or, as we Trekkies here dubbed it “Command your Data” is what will evolve the power of the open source idea into the cloud. - Graham Steel
Steve Koch
What's the best way to embed a pdb crystal structure into a wikipedia article? Is there a gadget that allows reader to rotate & zoom? Or is static png the way to go?
How about an animated gif rotating it? - Ruchira S. Datta
I agree that's better. I didn't know how to do it easily, so just put a snapshot in. It's my new stub article on Tus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Steve Koch
I realized what I actually want: A widget that will display a molecular dynamics trajectory of the system, while allowing user to rotate, zoom, pull on atoms, etc. ... Comp. people get to work :) - Steve Koch
One of the web widgets they offer at the PDB might work in the context of Wikipedia but I would guess this is one to have a wider conversation about? Andrew Su and Tony Williams would have an idea of the logistics at least. - Cameron Neylon
The Jmol community has been trying for a long time now to get it available in Wikipedia... you could ask on jmol-users@ ... - Egon Willighagen
For small molecules, Noel's TwirlyMol looks nice http://baoilleach.blogspot.com/2009... , as it doesn't require plugins. But it doesn't seem to scale well for proteins. - Pawel Szczesny
Steve, try asking on http://sciencestack.com. - Jane Breezler
There's a long and tangentially relevant discussion here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... As Egon alludes to, there is an effort to get the Jmol extension installed, but I don't see much activity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... Proteopedia has Jmol: http://www.proteopedia.org. - Andrew Su
As part of the Gene Wiki effort, we uploaded ~66k thumbnail images created by the EBI to wikicommons, and categorized them by SCOP. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki... Of course, they are auto-generated so they probably don't illustrate what you'd want to illustrate.. (and certainly not an MD trajectory...) - Andrew Su
Thanks! Oh, and BTW, I was kidding about the MD trajectory, including the ability for the reader to pull on atoms in a real-time MD simulation. :) - Steve Koch
Jmol has been up for discussion for a long time. I am not aware of any movement to support it at present. You might want to put the crystal structure hosted in Jmol elsewhere and make a link to it from the Wikipedia page rather than having it in the Wikipedia article itself. - Antony Williams
Noel O'Boyle
Project-Focused Activity and Knowledge Tracker: A Unified Data Analysis, Collaboration, and Workflow Tool for Medicinal Chemistry Project Teams - http://pubs.acs.org/doi...
So, where can I get this from? - Noel O'Boyle
is it a commercial product? - Jean-Claude Bradley
doesn't look like it. Once again - look all you want, but no touching :) - Rajarshi Guha
Mickey Schafer
An Open Source Approach to Better Prosthetics -- http://www.npr.org/templat...
Just caught this story on the way home -- audio not available until 3:00 EST (US) -- great conversation with biomedical researcher who was in grad school when he got called to Iraq -- returns with only part an arm, goes into prosthetics research. At end of interview (maybe 7 min in?) makes terrific statement on the lack of open data when the whole thing has been govt. funded -- and has a response to the "economically necessary" argument for propriety, commercial production. - Mickey Schafer
"November 10, 2009 When Marine engineer Jonathan Kuniholm returned to his industrial-design shop after a tour of duty in Iraq, one of his first projects was personal: He wanted to improve on the design of the prosthetics he'd been using since he lost part of his right arm in an ambush near Haditha. Kuniholm and his colleagues founded the Open Prosthetics Project, an open-source collaboration that shares its innovations freely." - Mickey Schafer
Rich Apodaca
Chempedia Data Downloads: Free as in Free - http://depth-first.com/article...
The new entries are listed in the Open Chemical Data room: http://friendfeed.com/openche... - Egon Willighagen
Ami Iida
Pedro Beltrao
Nature Cell Biology joins call for microattribution of datasets - http://blogs.nature.com/nautilu...
Earlier similar calls: http://ff.im/5s2Dc and http://ff.im/9hscn . - Daniel Mietchen
Neil Saunders
STITCH 2: an interaction network database for small molecules and proteins - http://www.citeulike.org/user...
Nucl. Acids Res. (6 November 2009), gkp937. Over the last years, the publicly available knowledge on interactions between small molecules and proteins has been steadily increasing. To create a network of interactions, STITCH aims to integrate the data dispersed over the literature and various databases of biological pathways, drug-target relationships and binding affinities. In STITCH 2, the number of relevant interactions is increased by incorporation of BindingDB, PharmGKB and the Comparative Toxicogenomics Database. The resulting network can be explored interactively or used as the basis for large-scale analyses. To facilitate links to other chemical databases, we adopt InChIKeys that allow identification of chemicals with a short, checksum-like string. STITCH 2.0 connects proteins from 630 organisms to over 74 000 different chemicals, including 2200 drugs. STITCH can be accessed at http://stitch.embl.de/. 10.1093/nar/gkp937 Michael Kuhn, Damian Szklarczyk, Andrea Franceschini,... - Neil Saunders
I didn't expect the paper to come out this quickly, I was quite surprised to see it in my feed reader on the weekend. I have now activated STITCH 2 as public website ... hope it's not too buggy :) - Michael Kuhn
this looks like it could be quite useful for our cheminfo retrieval class - I added it to our resources and will let you know if any students make use of it for their term projects http://getcheminfo.wikispaces.com/resourc... - Jean-Claude Bradley
umm .. you are going to make me re-do some work :p - Pedro Beltrao
@Michael - quick questions: I don't think I ever saw homology evidences in the drug-gene interactions. Do you guys avoid doing this or it is just not reported in the evidence info ? - Pedro Beltrao
Congrats Michael! - Ruchira S. Datta
@Pedro: going from STITCH 1 to 2 will change the identifiers of proteins and chemicals, so check first if you run into trouble there - Michael Kuhn
re transfer: if you are in human or mouse, you probably won't see so much transfer. but if you go to e.g. chimp, you'll see a lot of transferred evidence - Michael Kuhn
Carmen Drahl
Why should politicos be the only voices heard? Scientists were also there when the Berlin Wall fell. http://pubs.acs.org/cen...
Mickey Schafer
Scientists still not joining social networks -- Scholarly Kitchen -- http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009...
Personally, am not convinced of some of the assumptions, e.g. "...Both are unfortunate, but are parts of the current culture [reference to sharing early lab results]. Any network that hopes to succeed must adapt to the culture of the community, rather than trying to rewrite it." First, though likely rare, I think there are instances where culture gets "re-written" -- another perspective is that this form of communication provides an alternative to established routes. That is, does not replace them but adds to the diversity of communication means. - Mickey Schafer
The only thing I really disagree with here is that I think there will be a shift towards more open approaches as more examples of success show up. Then everyone will go over the edge like lemmings and there will be a backlash again but by then the funders will be piling in with conditions to push things forward. - Cameron Neylon
<cynical>It doesn't matter what the scientists think. What matters is what the funders demand of them.</cynical> Open science doesn't really depend on "[online] social networks" and never has. It's true that most open-science sorts are active social networkers, but when the rubber hits the road, I don't care who's on FriendFeed -- I care who's sharing data. If the funders demand the latter and not the former, good on 'em. Behavior will shift accordingly. - D0r0th34
But the funders are the scientists in most cases - so a mixture of pushing from within the community - as well as top down mandates will get us there. The question is how to get the funders into a position where they feel bound to impose mandates _and_ provide the infrastructure that makes it possible to observe them...? - Cameron Neylon
Mmm, I'm not sure I agree. Funding infrastructure relies on a fair amount of scientist labor, yes -- but it's not career scientists who have been calling the funder shots; it's been top-level administrators (some of whom are ex-scientists, admittedly) looking at bottom lines. The Wellcome Trust mandate didn't come from scientists. Neither did the NIH policy. <cynical>One can't rely on scientists for effective science policy.</cynical> - D0r0th34
Fair enough. UK Research Councils case is more nuanced. Even Wellcome Trust policy was driven to a certain extent by the fundees or at least not in the face of belligerent opposition from them. But comparing the independent funders like Wellcome to the Research Councils (run more by councils of academics) is instructive. - Cameron Neylon
I thought the spin on your lovely shout out for Medeley on ch 4 news was interesting, Cameron (nice monitors btw!). 'government backing for innovators to meet and share' was the message. Have you had any responses to that yet? Maybe systems like Mendeley will be the things that start to crack the nut of social networking for scientists? I'm not sure it's a killer app, more the thin end of the wedge... - Jo Badge
Shorter DC: I don't like social networks or spend any time on them, so they must be useless. - Bill Hooker
I'm afraid they're not my monitors but those for the control room for one of the instruments (not incidentally the one that got filmed in the piece - but at least there was no blue liquid!) But they are in fact necessary to keep the instrument running and processing data efficiently. - Cameron Neylon
Bill, I am afraid your DC is heads on :-) - Claudia Koltzenburg
I can imagine a report from 1670, a full five years after the creation of academic journals, concluding that virtually no scientists were using academic journals as a matter of course, and thus they are useless. (Technological progress has sped up a lot since 1670, of course. But social change isn't all that much faster, in my opinion. And this is fundamentally a social change.) - Michael Nielsen
Michael++ - D0r0th34
I think we also tend to forget the granddaddy social software: email. In some fields there are tremendously active listservs that have been around for over a decade especially at research universities where faculty got email before it really caught on in the wider world. What evidence would convince a scientist that Facebook, LinkedIn or Twitter offer better communication opportunities than an archived listserv? - Jenny Reiswig
Well, aren't most scientists using email as "communication opportunities" and nothing else? (social network, listserv etc)? - Maxine
were observations limited to sites specifically designed for scientists? perhaps to the exclusion of other significant mainstream platforms like facebook or twitter - Mike Chelen
Rich Apodaca
On not assuming students’ technical skills - http://www.profhacker.com/2009...
"The problem was that I not only mistakenly assumed that students were already reasonably tech-savvy; I also made the mistake of thinking that poking around a site’s instruction pages and/or support forums (if they ran into trouble) would be a natural thing for them to do. It isn’t." - Rich Apodaca
Andrew Lang
Google now indexing thumbs. Final page of solubility book: Solubilities of inorganic and organic compounds: a compilation of ..., Volume 1 By Atherton Seidell
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it actually looks like a toe - Jean-Claude Bradley
Correct. Tis pink, looks like a form of shoewear with desert like background to me so, might this be "Toe in the Sahara, with shoe" Featuring Sting and @cromercrox :- http://www.last.fm/music... - Graham Steel
or does this prove Megan Fox made this scan http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip... - Jean-Claude Bradley
Is this already be digitized by typing monkeys? - Egon Willighagen
it is automatically generated Egon - just waiting for me to get the preface done.... - Jean-Claude Bradley
Jean-Claude... you mean, you are getting the data rescued already? - Egon Willighagen
no sure what you mean by rescued Egon - Jean-Claude Bradley
@JC I think Egon is talking about people transcribing the Seidell's solubility book. @Egon I think JC is talking about the ONS solubility book. :) - Andrew Lang
thanks for the clarification Andy - Marshall already uploaded most of the carboxylic acids and aldehydes - yes I was referring to our own book Egon - Jean-Claude Bradley
Ah... JC, sorry... I did not realized you were compiling an own book :) @Andrew... yes, I was talking about transcribing values from the Seidell book... I might know someone who wants to help with that (or at least try it; he's not a chemist)... - Egon Willighagen
My mistake Egon about the confusion with the book - yes we have one coming out soon. As for help with adding data from the Seidell book I think we have most of the relevant compounds. And it would require a chemist to translate the way names were done back then - also much of it requires conversion between g/100g solvent or g/100g solution to molar, etc - Jean-Claude Bradley
Andrew Lang
log P = 1.46(±0.02) + 0.11(±0.001) NC-0.11(±0.001) NHET
Just noticed - this is from vcc lab. - Andrew Lang
like a dream come true - Jean-Claude Bradley
@Andrew... no, it's not that easy... it's that *difficult*... the problem is so complex, it's very hard to do better... - Egon Willighagen
Andrew Lang
Ubiquitous information technology fields - http://futurememes.blogspot.com/2009...
"...once any area becomes an information technology, it starts conforming to the exponential curves of Moore’s Law..." - Andrew Lang
great post - if we can figure out a way to automate the execution of the DoSol sheet it should go exponential - that is our bottleneck right now - Jean-Claude Bradley
Bill Hooker
Zzzoot: The Future of Science: Semantic Web Applications in Scientific Discourse - http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/2009...
"For those who want to take a glimpse at where science and scientific discourse are going, take a look at some of the papers at this workshop" - Bill Hooker from Bookmarklet
several of the links are broken - this is the correct link to the Mons slides http://esw.w3.org/topic... - Jean-Claude Bradley
Bill Hooker
Distributed Science, Part 2 : Common Knowledge - http://scienceblogs.com/commonk...
Tags: lostart Posted by: cwhooker - Bill Hooker
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