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jcunwired
Nerd, nature lover, animal lover. When not on Friendfeed I'm kayaking, hiking, playing with my mutts or piddling around home doing chores, gardening and fixups.
There's huge focus on the fact that Hasan is Muslim (lets call it what it is - racial profiling). Does anybody know the religious affiliation of the Oklahoma City bombers? The shooter at Virginia Tech? The sniper pair who terrorized DC? Jeffrey Dahmer? I didn't think so. Case closed.
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Racial Profiling? Isn't that when you suspect someone of intent to commit a crime based on distinguishing features? Pretty sure this is a tad past intent. And I assume the others you mention were all Protestants except Dahmer who obviously was Roman Catholic.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Yes, you presume. But did you focus on the fact that Dahmer was Catholic? Probably not. Did you gravitate to the fact that Hasan is Muslim, and immediately draw your own conclusions? Probably. The very fact that you presume the crime was committed based on distinguishing features places you smack in the middle of the racial profiler camp. Yep, you're one of them, live with it.
- jcunwired
And you assume that I knew, or care, about the religious affiliations, or the ethnic background, of someone I never knew existed until such time as he had committed a crime. I should have clarified my point, jc. This is not racial profiling, it is racism. So, I guess I'm one of them. Have a wonderful weekend.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Did the McVey commit his act in the name of his religion? Did the Va. Tech shooter? The DC snipers? That's the difference. (not saying whether Ft. Hood shootings were about religion, just asking us to compare apples to apples).
- Craig Eddy
Case NOT closed, Sorry. The guy is still alive. The case will continue, like it or not.
- Morgan Haley
Actually, yeah, in all cases
- Matthew DeVries
and religion is NOT the same as race. so it's not racial profiling, sorry. Religious profiling? Maybe. But don't mix religion and race, because that's what all the profilers have been doing to this point. Don't be stupid and assume they are the same thing, because they are not.
- Morgan Haley
Guy Fawkes was Catholic, famously so. And Hasan did scream a Muslim battle cry (though used for other things as well) as he was shooting, so you know, that kind of draws away from whole non-relgiousness of it.
- Matthew DeVries
DC sniper was muslim, btw.
- Dave Roth
Stupid is as stupid does. Evil is as evil does. What if all of these people has irritable bowel syndrome? Would that matter? No. But having shit trouble is almost enough to make people snap. Same logic with the religion argument. This guy was nuts. He was gonna snap eventually. Religion had nothing to do with it. He was a pussy that didn't want to do the job he signed up for.
- Morgan Haley
He said god is great. and from what I 'know', he is pretty fucking great, so there you have it. because it's a battle cry of some muslim extremists, doesn't make it wrong to say.
- Morgan Haley
Wow Morgan - The people investigating this probably won't be releasing their findings for months, after many interviews and records checks. I'm truly impressed that you were able to crack the case months ahead of the professionals paid to do so.
- Matthew DeVries
Craig, you just proved my point. Thanks.
- jcunwired
Dang, Morgan. You don't see anything wrong with screaming "God is great" as you mow down your supposed comrades in cold blood? Dude...
- Joey Gibson
@Joey – One could probably find Christian examples of the same. Christian or Muslim, it's hard to tell how much is motivated by religion and how much by other factors. In this case, we ought to wait for more information to become public before coming to conclusions about it.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I said nothing in my response about the attacker being Muslim. And yes, I'm sure you could find examples of Christian yelling similar things while doing horrid deeds. Again, not the point. I was simply asking Morgan if he didn't think there was something wrong with screaming "God is great" while murdering those around you.
- Joey Gibson
The guy was a psychiatrist as well -- doesn't that branch of medicine attract a disproportionate number of crazies?
- Brian Sullivan
Oops - apologies, you are correct. its profiling, race has nothing to do with it. Brian, I believe you're right, but that's profiling too :)
- jcunwired
What I'm trying to figure out are the wackos who, upon hearing Hasan is Muslim, go on to harass and threaten other Muslims.
- Victor Ganata
I am wondering why they don't harass other psychiatrists or other Majors or other 39 year olds though.
- Brian Sullivan
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