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My daddy said to tell you all that the FFundercats will be back next week, not this week as originally planned. OK bye bye I hafta goes nao. *giggles*
See-ming Lee 李思明 SML, Mark Krynsky, Haggis (Sean Loyless) and 40 other people liked this
Zoe would get production credit if this were a union gig.
- Christopher Harley
Ha. Making the cutie pie do the dirty work. I love it. +100 for effective use of the cuteness.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Next week Yay!
- Holly Rae, FFer
*disarmed* Plan worked flawlessly. :)
- Micah Wittman
zoe! x_x
- Anna Haro
okay! Okay! The cuteness overrides the bad news.....awww! She is soooo adorable! But you'd better be back next week, or else....!
- WorldofHiglet
We had to pull some strings, but we got your back. Keeping your timeslot warm is serious work.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Oooh - more live RTL?
- WorldofHiglet
Uh yeah.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I mean, HECK YES!!!
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Oh sure...send that sweet little messenger to deliver the bad news...ok it worked.
- Mark Krynsky
Anthony is honored to have just met - and exchanged courtesies with - the President of the United States. And that was, as the kids say, pretty effin’ cool.
R_ C, Andrew Trinh, Rachel Lea Fox and 61 other people liked this
Now bring on the vodka.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Cool, tell us more.
- jcunwired
I'll drink to that!
- Michael McKean
@jc that's about all there is to tell... so far, anyway. (still at the dinner)
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Give him a fistbump for me. :)
- Yolanda
Okay, I'll give you that one. That is pretty effin' cool. :)
- WorldofHiglet
Cool. :-)
- Håkan Dahlström
Sweetness! Very neat indeed, Anthony! :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
pretty cool!
- Josh Haley
Very Cool!
- Michael Fidler
Nice ! Details man, details. Where was this ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Cool!
- Nicholas James
sweet!
- Jenny Morman
Wow!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
you promised us you'd say some dramatic line to him, did ya panic and go with "wussup?"
- Steve C
@Steve: actually no, I cried like a little girl and peed myself, as is my longstanding personal tradition whenever meeting current or former Heads of State. It's simply good protocol; they seem to love it...
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
P.S.: I promised nuthin’ dude
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Somehow I believe you, Anthony but still - pics or it didn't happen!
- WorldofHiglet
@WoH: "somehow?" ha, gee thanks! There are no pics of this one, I'm afraid (although there are almost surely pool pics of me at the ropeline early in the night) and believe me it bugs me more than the rest o' yaz. Hopefully @ the next one I get a proper photo op.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
You're the coolest!
- Shevonne
@ahsan: dinner at the Beverly Hilton last night. (sorry, overlooked your q.)
- Anthony Citrano
:) You LA folk have personal photographers documenting your every move don't you?!? Don't tell me that not true because I saw it on the tv....Anyway, it must have been a very special moment. I hope you didn't cry and pee too much o_O
- WorldofHiglet
Cooler than that Best of Day thread about jock itch?
- Matthew DeVries
Coolness, man, coolness :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Where can we read about it Anthony?
- Charlie Anzman
@charlie: about my personal moment (A: right here), or about the President coming to LA? (A: just about anywhere; pick your media poison.)
- Anthony Citrano
SO, can you tell us a little more about other than the wetting/crying?
- WorldofHiglet
Even though I can't stand Obama, I have to admit, your getting to meet the president is pretty cool.
- Joey Gibson
@WoH - I don't think I'll get into the blow-by-blow here (there's absolutely nothing of substance anyway.) However, I will almost surely draw on the experience for a future article.
- Anthony Citrano
Well I hope you do deign to share some little details with us sometime. When you can be bothered. In other news, did you see the new YouTube video from the WhiteHouseTV entitled "OMG!!!!! I met Anthony Citrano!!!!! For REALS!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I hear it's going viral....
- WorldofHiglet
WoH: don't make fun o' me! we've already determined I cry easily. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
Ooopsie - my bad. I forgot you were such a delicate little flower :)
- WorldofHiglet
If you shook his hand, you have been changed. : )
- Phil Boiarski
@Phil - I did twice. Should I not have showered? ;)
- Anthony Citrano
holy sylvia pawjoli (sp?)
- anna sauce
You can shower, but only use your left hand. No, wait, that sounds wrong.....
- WorldofHiglet
Awesome! Haven't yet met Obama, but meeting presidents is cool. He's one I hope to meet in the future.
- Mitchell Tsai
key question - did you ask him about crotch grabbing?
- Richard Lawler
@richard: working for Clinton taught me, at a fairly young age, to never ask Presidents crotch questions.
- Anthony Citrano
where's the openness and transparency in that?
- Richard Lawler
@richard: i'll try to do better. i let pragmatism get in the way.
- Anthony Citrano
Tad in 1987 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Kamilah Gill, tinypants - Hagitha of FF, Haggis (Sean Loyless) and 38 other people liked this
Damn. Who's that??
- Internet's Tad
from Bookmarklet
Click through for the full awkward effect. It's no wonder I didn't get laid till years later!
- Internet's Tad
Oh snap, so TAD are the initials. DIDN'T KNOW.
- Derrick
Oh yeah.
- Internet's Tad
This geek is ready to run for office!
- imabonehead
*falls off chair/throne laughing*
- Mo Kargas
Wow, In 1987, I was 9...don't think I have any pictures from then.
- Jonas, Leper of FF
Oh MY.
- Rochelle
That's awesome Tad! Classic. Love the tinted glasses.
- Got Love For DB™?
Also, why are you and the guy above you wearing tuxes?!
- Rochelle
I thought everybody wore tuxes/formal dresses in their Senior pictures. We did and that was in 1995.
- Got Love For DB™?
HAWT
- Spidra Webster
We just wore whatever clothes we had on for school picture day.
- Rochelle
Once, I had the idea of using my high school pic for a Facebook profile pic. I took one look and felt ill. I dismissed that idea.
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
Once, I had the idea of using my high school pic for a Facebook profile pic. I took one look and felt ill. I dismissed that idea. For senior pics, females had to wear these stupid drape-thingies which showed our shoulders and made us look like we had no arms. What kind of warped brain thinks up this stuff?
- MiniMage, sheeple of FF
And the funny thing is, it's not really a tux. It was just something that looked like a tux from the shoulders up. And yes, everyone wore the same thing. The girls had the drape thing which they all thought was really stupid. This was only for the seniors pics. Everyone else just wore whatever they had on at school.
- Internet's Tad
OMG! I swear this is how I looked like, about 15 years ago!!! Exactly the same. Good that I'll probably look like you in some years.
- directeur
You look like a young Kurt Russell...NERD FAIL!
- Alex Scoble
I have never once had a pic taken, high school, drivers license etc that looked remotely good. So I sympathise with poor poor tad :) *sniggers* :)
- Roberto Bonini
Snazzy!
- Rodfather
Bump cause I'm a hardcore narcissist.
- Internet's Tad
AMERICAblog News | A great nation deserves the truth: Teabaggers attack Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel - http://www.americablog.com/2009...
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"Holocaust survivor and Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel criticized a Teabagger protester in Washington, DC this week who held up a sign showing dead bodies from the Dachau concentration camp stacked in a pile, and compared this to the Democrats' health care reform plan. Here are a few of the Teabaggers' responses to Weisel, posted on Politico:"
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
"Rothschilds nothing! Everyone knows that Obama is George Soros sock puppet. Wasn't Soros Jewish once upon a time? May the Schwartz be with you."
- Steven Perez
"The jews need to clam up and accept the fact that they are in a Chritian country."
- Steven Perez
"This hollowcost thing is totally overblown by the jewish."
- Steven Perez
"Eli Wiesel should just go back to Indonesia. I don't see him condemnig the terrorist shooter at Fort Hood."
- Steven Perez
"Elie is a whiner. She should stop her whining. You didn't not complane when the libs were calling Bush Hitler."
- Steven Perez
Stay classy, Teabaggers.
- Steven Perez
:[
- Anna Haro
painful.
- Bren, Photophobe
From the look of these remarks, it's clear that hate is making these teabag people as stupid as they are mean.
- Dennis Jernberg
And the Holocaust deniers are already coming out too, alas...
- Dennis Jernberg
Hey, if they went after Max Cleland, a veteran and an amputee, then there's no way they're gonna take any guff from some Jew. God, these people make make ill sometimes.
- Steven Perez
I met Wiesel once, he spoke at my high school. he was incredibly compelling. the people quoted above make me sad for my country.
- Bren, Photophobe
A couple decades of de-investment in education is bearing fruit.
- Spidra Webster
[facepalm] I'd ask when the 'baggers will ever learn, but I think they skipped class.
- Bill Sodeman
Spidra, listening to my mom and dad talk about politics back when JFK was prez, nothing has changed. Idiots are still idiots. For example, my mom taught school in Mississippi. On the day JFK was assassinated, there was massive cheering at the (all white segregated) school - amongst staff and students.
- Internet's Tad
Us vs "Them" that awful amorphous them... Always a zero sum game and the "uses"is always behind and deeply darkly bitter about it
- WarLord
That was as painful to read as I'm sure it could have been to experience for Mr. Wiesel. Fortunately, he probably doesn't hang out on the internet much.
- Helen Sventitsky
I'm sure it's always been around, Tad. I just think it's increasing.
- Spidra Webster
Think of the horrific Deja Vu for Wiesel reading teabaggers is like verbal reliving of Crystal Nacht
- WarLord
This is not the first and unfortunately not the last time Mr. Wiesel heard such remarks. Being the strong person he is, he will never be deterred.
- Amit Morson
nothing wrong with teabagging
- Kyle Johnson
I'm pretty sure most Politico commenters are trolls.
- Rob H.
Shockingly disgusting. I agree in part with Bill, but I think they skipped school altogether :-(
- Rene Wirtz
Teabaggers have plenty of neo-Nazis in their ranks.
- empireofno
Oh... God!
- Scorpio
not defending anyone, but I checked all the links out from your blog and I don't see any actual anyone saying any of what you've posted...only people typing what they've heard other people typing about what someone supposedly said. I'd really like to be informed, can you help by posting anything that isnt second or third hand sourcing?
- jeff hammond
Dear jeff if you know, this comments are the second or third hand, then you know the the hottest news is what
- Scorpio
Jeff, go here: http://thinkprogress.org/2009... -- click on comment #15, as one of MANY shining examples.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Jeff, for another example along the same vein, but directed at someone else, look here: http://twitter.com/ohmgee...
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I certainly understand not wanting to accept things 2nd & 3rd hand - which is why I made a point of looking those things up myself before posting my blog - but gah, some of that shit you just can't make up.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
i look at this comments but i didn't see the copy of them here, but if you say that, i accept it
- Scorpio
and think about it, if some haven't any good answer and said some shit things about Holocaust, he can't be GOOD gay! maybe he's follow the wrong way
- Scorpio
Scorpio - the comment was "voted down" but you can still click into it. It is by some person who calls self "In memory of Noor Almalek"... What is says is: "How about we round them up, load them on cattle cars and ship them off to Obama’s re-education camps? Maybe a quick shower before the crematorium?"
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
It was in response to a "Fred"... "Fred says: That’s over the line. Someone has to pay for this, one way or another" -- who was responding, it appears, to the actual TP posting in general.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Agreed, too...how does one pay? Who pays? meh, but I understand (I think) that Fred was just venting frustration. "In memory of Noor Almalek"'s suggestion was vile.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Jeff: to your original point on not finding the comments there anymore, if one follows the link to the blog in question, one will find that the comments have a "report abuse" button next to each link. And Politico is not the sort of blog that would keep egregiously abusive comments on their site for very long.
- Steven Perez
Scorpio: what the heck are you talking about?
- Steven Perez
thanks about your nice asking!! about complaisance in comment!! this should be very shiny!
- Scorpio
Allow me, Steven. Scorpio is saying that yes yes, Who Pays? you know dear, when a person nothing know about an a abject and then see some one or in some place people talking about this abject he came & said some thing true or false, because this person thing now his the professor and he can said every thing want!!
- Christopher Harley
Thanks, Mr. Harley. I got that part. :P
- Steven Perez
from IM
Don't thank me, thank Googley Transmute.
- Christopher Harley
*chortling @ Mr. Harley* -- Steven, as I understand Scorpio, his suggestion is that both "Fred" and ""In memory of Noor Almalek" comments (within the ThinkProgress threaded comments) were out of line -- I might be misinterpreting his meaning, but that is how I understood him. In the sense of of the abject/professor comment - it seems to me a rhetorical question/statement about the...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
excuse me, i thanks the Steven
- Scorpio
Ah. OK. I was wondering.
- Steven Perez
from IM
thanks you ProsePetals, and thanks all of you, but excuse me if i said some thing wrong! i can't write English very well
- Scorpio
No worries. :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
That's okay, Scorpio - if I misstated anything you said, please let me know. :)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
how you ProsePetals think I'm a guy?
- Scorpio
no no! every thing it's OK, thanks you
- Scorpio
*blush* If you're a woman, then I apologize - it's to do with the name "Scorpio" that I assumed.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
no don't blush it not important, your the worshipful person ,
- Scorpio
Its the Fox network puppet show, did you really expect more intellect?
- jcunwired
If Obama Is So Bad, Why Are the Markets Up? - Forbes.com - http://www.forbes.com/2009...
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Recently the Dow Jones Industrial Average passed the psychologically significant 10,000 mark. This is an impressive feat for an index that was trading in the 6,000 range less than nine months ago. While naysayers would correctly point out that the Dow remains flat compared to 10 years ago, the run-up since last spring can't be dismissed out of hand. This is particularly true when we consider policies coming out of Washington that seem inimical to stock market and economic health. The economic picture isn't pretty: corporate bailouts that have rewarded failures at the expense of successes; a "stimulus" that has redistributed wealth from the productive to the politically connected and indolent; a continuation of the Bush administration's weak-dollar policies, which have historically correlated with weak markets. Add to that the Obama administration's half-hearted support of free trade, its eagerness to heavily regulate the financial markets and the chilling "haircut" it imposed on...
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- Eric Logan
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Think Progress » The Future Is Chaos: GOP Threatens Retribution Against Cao For Health Care Vote - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...
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"I read the versions of the House [health reform] bill. I listened to the countless stories of Orleans and Jefferson Parish citizens whose health care costs are exploding — if they are able to obtain health care at all. Louisianans needs real options for primary care, for mental health care, and for expanded health care for seniors and children. [...] I have always said that I would put aside partisan wrangling to do the business of the people. My vote tonight was based on my priority of doing what is best for my constituents."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Before yesterday I hadn't heard of the man. Today, I'm wishing more politicians (regardless of political party or platform) had his cajones.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
fyi he's got a great story: Vietnam refugee at age 8, wins the House seat of a 9-term incumbent in last year's election: "He is only a recent convert to the Republican Party, having been a registered independent for most of his adult life, and has no position — at least not one he cares to share yet — on President-elect Barack Obama’s agenda. His politics seem less a matter of ideology than of low-key temperament and a Jesuit-inspired desire to “help and serve people,” as he put it."
- Christopher Chung
I, for one, have tremendous respect for the man. He is more of a maverick than McCain ever could hope to be. Good fo Cao to not toe/tow (?) the party line and for flushing out the hysterical racists in his party.
- Rene Wirtz
Just a reminder FFers: now is the time of year when you can find lots of grocery items on a BOGO sale. Buy some extra non-perishables and drop them off at your local shelter or donation point on your way home!!
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You're pretty damned cool, Tina. Just sayin...
- Mark Jepsen
Aw, shucks *kicks the ground* Seriously, it's the easiest and most painfree way I know to make a donation. Find a coupon to use with your BOGO sale and you might even save some money making your donation!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, you ROCK! Simply, ROCK.
- directeur
Thanks for the idea, Tina! Paying it forward.
- rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu
For those living near a Bi-Lo grocery store: Progresso Classic soups are 10 for $10 with your Bonus Card up through tomorrow. Perfect thing to stock up and donate.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Happy Birthday @Drew | lalawag #drewbday - http://lalawag.com/happy-b...
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Even if I try to be the better person, it irks me that people have to resort to insults when commenting on a post
Eric @ CS Techcast, jcunwired, Alfredo and 15 other people liked this
Don't let that get you down ... There are always going to be jerks around.
- Bhowmik Shah
Thanks
- Shevonne
That is so true
- James Herington
++
- Anna Haro
My Droid experience thread
Aron Michalski, John Fink, Jeff P. Henderson and 28 other people liked this
Physical Keyboard: I don't know what reviewers were complaining about, this is actually pretty damn good. The only part that's not so great is the optional protective hard shell makes the top row of keys a bit hard to press because it consumes the "overflow" space that your fingers would normally have
- LANjackal
from IM
The only major niggle I have with the Droid is that so far I can't figure out how to make it vibrate to notify me of incoming SMS when the handset is locked and the ring volume is silenced. If I don't figure that out I'm gonna miss a LOT of text messages at work, which is not good :/
- LANjackal
from IM
All charged up! Despair's (my Droid's Bluetooth name) first night on the town. He's already texted one girl and called another from his Contacts, which is fully integrated with my Facebook account (profile, pics, email addresses, phone numbers). This last part is absolutely amazing. Wish us well, I'll tell you more tomorrow when we embark on a 16h bar crawl (no joke)
- LANjackal
WOW. I have never set a custom ringtone this easily in my life. 1)Drag and drop song into phone from Windows Explorer (where it shows up as removable disk). 2)Go to Music App, which automagically finds ALL songs on the phone, regardless of location 3)Select track 4)Select "Set as ringtone". DONE. A-mazing, especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?)
- LANjackal
"...especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?)" They would had to have fucked with normal Android functionality. Have you tried, "Ringdroid," I think it's called? -- for editing audio on the handset. Perhaps there's something better now.
- Christopher A Carr
*WANT*!
- Travis Koger
Good hardware, presently. I would flash a fancier ROM.
- Christopher A Carr
I'm not going to throw down money until there is a 1 GhZ device. Soon. In 1/2 years, people who have this phone are going to feel silly.
- Christopher A Carr
... or we'll just get a new one? Handsets are salable dude.
- LANjackal
Speed: (because Chris Carr brought it up). The Droid is plenty fast. Speed is not an issue.
- LANjackal
Battery Life: Very good, but I'd bring my charger if I were going out of town for a weekend (I always do that anyway, so I don't consider than an issue)
- LANjackal
Browser: Faaaast. I don't miss the pinch multitouch capability reviewers have been bemoaning the lack of, since the high resolution means that 95% of pages are readable as is in the first place, and there's a handy zoom-in/zoom-out icon that pops up at the lower right of the screen
- LANjackal
UNPLEASANT SURPRISE: That charging cable that you think is a mini-USB cable? It's NOT. I don't WTF the port on the side of the Droid is, but it won't accept any other cable than the one that shipped with the device. Disappointing, but not a dealbreaker IMO
- LANjackal
Fancier ROM idea: If you wanna go for it, sure. However, my phone is one of those device (like my car) that I expect to just WORK, 100% of the time. Don't wanna risk bricking it, but if you wanna do that go right ahead.
- LANjackal
Contact management: This is simply the best implementation thereof you will ever come across, not only on phones but on ANY device. Full syncing of Google Contacts and your Facebook friends (all relevant fields, even job titles and pics from Facebook profiles), automatic duplicate entry handling, with search, email ... you name it. This is one thing the Droid beats everything else at. No competition.
- LANjackal
Camera: It's not the best, but it'll do. Besides, cameras like those are merciful to those who aren't naturally photogenic like me.
- LANjackal
Audio quality: Angelic. I know this sounds like an overstatement, but wait till you hear it. The audio on this device is just stunning. Everything else you've ever heard will sound like static afterwards in comparison
- LANjackal
Does it use a regular audio connector, or a custom one like the older Android phones?
- Glen Campbell
from iPod
Visual Voicemail is great, but if you have an active Wi-Fi connection it won't be able to sync. Which it tells you nicely. Perhaps Google Voice fixes that problem. Beginning to wish I had a GV account now. Oh well. Invite, anyone?
- LANjackal
I still can't get over the monthly fee for visual voicemail. Sigh.
- Glen Campbell
VZW has the weird setup where feature prices vary BOTH by plan AND phone. For example, VZ Navigator is free on some phones but paid on others. I *think* Visual Voicemail's included with the data plan when you get a Droid
- LANjackal
More on battery life: Charging takes a while (1.5h from 50% to full). Definitely enough for overnight, but people who rely on fast charge times will be in for a surprise. I'm really anal about charging, so I don't find this an issue. Less "responsible" users (read: college girls) whose phones are permanently "about to die" will run into trouble :P
- LANjackal
Hmmm, not true mini-USB, slight disappointment. How loud are the ringtones and the call itself? Do you think the phone will feel weird with an extended battery? Do you experience any lag that has been reported in apps? Can't wait to have in hand next week!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lan: You want a GV invite? Think I still have one or tww. How do you like Stanford pounding the shit out of Oregon? Wow.
- Christopher A Carr
Why do you say it's not true mini-USB? That contradicts what I've been told by a Googler who's been using the phone since August.
- Glen Campbell
Lag: bear in mind that you're dealing with a mini-computer that happens to be able to make calls, not a phone in the traditional sense. As with a PC, the more apps you run, the more lag you may notice (1 -2s sometimes, "missed" touches). In normal operation with mission critical apps though, there is no lag. I'd STRONGLY suggest Taskiller though, as the OS never seems to really kill...
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- LANjackal
from IM
Battery Life Report: During a drinking marathon today filled with heavy use of web browsing, FB app friend adding, taking (and uploading) pics, texting, email checking, calling, hopping on and off free Wi-Fi, etc. the Droid lasted *drumroooooooollllll* 11 HOURS. Terrible for a phone, but pretty good for what's essentially a pocket computer. Word to the wise: the car charging kit? Get it. An extra USB cable for charging at work is a pretty good call too
- LANjackal
Correction about the USB connector. It's a micro-B one, NOT a min-B one, which is why the other cable I had wasn't working. So yes, it IS a standard USB cable. Sorry to have mislead anyone
- LANjackal
Nice feature: automagical backlighting that turns on and off in response to ambient light (even when going through shadows)
- LANjackal
Camera: I take back what I said about it earlier. This is pretty much the BEST party camera ever. Reviewers who complained about the pic quality were simply taking the wrong pics. No one uses smartphones to take pics of flowers idiots. They use 'em to take pics at parties. The important thing is how skin tone and color come out WITHOUT being too revealing (trust me, no one wants to see...
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- LANjackal
Battery life: so my buddy BR who got one is complaining about the battery life also. And his phone was almost always dead BEFORE the Droid, so I can only imagine what the situation is like now
- LANjackal
Another niggle: No character count for text message composition
- LANjackal
[big] Amazing photo from gondola in China. Also my new desktop picture.
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Your pic?
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
I wish.
- Kevin Fox
Woooohooooo. Damn.
- Fossil Huntress
Nice ;)
- niniane
WOW!
- Carlos Ayala
I just got vertigo, tipped forward and smacked my forehead into my monitor. Thanks, Kev.
- Mark Novak
I think that may be the flu more than the pic, Mark. ;-)
- Kevin Fox
LOL @Mark.
- Anika
Dazzling Scenic Picture. Not recommended for people with Vertigo
- Acharad Sami VanJoulee
GAH. Clicking away from this! *vertigo in full effect*
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
WHOA that is scary and cool all at the same time ... just stunning!
- Susan Beebe
just added this to "things I must see IRL before I die" list.
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
Neat. So where is this?
- Kekoa Proudfoot
Coooool !!
- Keiko Yamada
What if...
- Ozkan Altuner
from iPhone
Seems like Huangshan to me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Yinhaiming
Amazing, indeed.
- Onur Kabadayi
Gorgeous! Do you know where is it?
- Nicolas Dufour
I need to go there.
- Parvez Halim
i would poop my britches.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Amazing! Do you where in China?
- Frank Da Silva
/r location
- Chris Hofmann
better than any roller coaster..
- Onur Gündüz
Woah... crazy! :D
- Joel Lovato
I'm guessing it's the only lift mentioned on Wikipedia for China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... "access to mountain tops of Zhangjiajie National Forest Park in Hunan, China" a few pics via Bing: http://www.chinatravelca.com/uploads... , http://www.chinatravelca.com/uploads... , http://www.chinatravelca.com/uploads...
- Andrew C
i'd do it in a second.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I wanna ride!!
- nakachi
What if they took the gondolas off one day a week and turned it into a zipline?
- Kevin Fox
I'm wondering where the gondola locates in China?
- Xitong Liu
That's great- Thanks DAN !
- Wlassak
Imagine if you were a Catholic, and had to worry about being attacked in retaliation every time some Jesus-loving wacko murdered an abortion doctor, raped little kids in the name of God, or opened fire on government agents.
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Hey, those southern faiths make us Catholics look like Timothy Leary
- Matthew DeVries
I guess this same could be said for any religion. Here, I'll star: "Imagine if you were a Muslim and had to worry about being attacked in retaliation every time some wacko hijacked a plane, suicide bombed something in the name of God, or opened fire on American soldiers."
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
That's pretty much what I was thinking about, Rahsheen. I think it's insane that mosques in the U.S. now have to tighten up security just because that Army psychiatrist happens to be Muslim.
- Victor Ganata
Or imagine that all white people were Klan members and then treat, or expect to be treated by them accordingly
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Or imagine being Irish and getting sued every time someone found a fist sized hole in their drywall
- Matthew DeVries
@Matthew LOL ... I'm Catholic, and happy to be one, but MAN am i expected to provide apologetics for this stuff...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Victor, what a person says he is does not mean that he is. What a person does defines who he is and who his "father" is.
- Melanie Reed
Do you guys know Ron Hansen? Arguably the best Catholic writer out these days... wrote "The Assassination of Jesse James..." and some other wonderful books. He claims, as an academic, that he's had colleagues walk out of the room when they find out he's Catholic...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Heh, I didn't mean to single out Catholics—I just happen to have been born and raised as one so I used them as an example—but replace "Catholic" with any Muslim sect and "Jesus" with "Muhammad", and the list of acts that I mentioned with the list of acts that Rahsheen mentioned, and you get the weird mentality of some people in this country.
- Victor Ganata
Those in this thread may find this RSS feed a good edition to your read - it's analysis of religion and media coverage thereof http://feeds.feedburner.com/getreli... (http://www.getreligion.org ). It's solid writing.
- Micah Wittman
Victor, if its any consolation, some of us understood what you were saying :). And yes, that would suck.
- j1m
I assume it's the same for other faiths but, as I'm not a Muslim (for example), I don't feel it's my place to say... I wait for them to say it. :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
@ Rahsheen - that only applies to middle-eastern originated religions. The Buddhists don't tend to be violent, and I haven't yet heard of Hindu fundamentalists hijacking planes or performing suicide bombings.
- Piaw Na
Andrew, but it's not like Sri Lankans look at that and say, see, all Hindus are evil, it's inherent in their religion. At least, I don't think they do?
- Victor Ganata
It's because so many people see Muslims as outsiders - it is easier for Americans to write off one crazy white guy but a crazy brown guy is part of a giant conspiracy.
- Dragon Goldmaple
Yeah, because all Muslims are brown
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
It's more that all brown people are Muslim.
- Dragon Goldmaple
ANDR-IZZLE G-IZZLE Excellent point. Thank you for bringing that out. One's skin color does not always determine one's citizenship or one's religion. People of all skin colors convert to various religions (and defect from others), while there is a general population that still represents a particular religion.
- Melanie Reed
That latter point is where the rubber meets the road: you still have major populations that do represent a particular religion. Within that general category there can be extremists. Also within that general category can be those who "can be turned" and sometimes do become extremists for whatever reason later to be revealed. One of the reasons 9/11 happened is that there was more of an...
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- Melanie Reed
being Catholic has nothing to do with it...........since the beginning of mankind someone was doing in honor of their God..............
- VAL D.
I think that was the point.
- Dragon Goldmaple
Was he part of a group? So far there's no evidence to point to such.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, that is currently being investigated but within certain extremist ideology it is a general mandate without needing to opt into a special group: http://friendfeed.com/breakin...
- Melanie Reed
I think it's an unwarranted conclusion to jump to. It's more likely that he was simply mentally ill.
- Victor Ganata
No, they are not (and I am most certainly not) jumping to any conclusions. But that line of inquiry has to be followed up. What I advocate is cautious behavior. while maintaining the olive branch of fairness.
- Melanie Reed
I think "Did the subject subscribe to an ideology that leaves violence on the table as a rational response" is a valid point to have on a mass shooting investigatory checklist. Christians, Gang Members, KKK members, Roller Derby Members, pretty much everything but Budist, Hindu, Jain, Siek, Zoroastrians would be on that list with Muslims. Even Hippies think violence is ok (See PETA, GreenPeace, Weather Underground, Manson)
- Matthew DeVries
OK, if Muslims, then why not Christians? I think it's bogus, personally. But who knows, maybe he was in a sleeper cel.
- Victor Ganata
@Victor: because christianity is the good religion and muslim is the evil religion, obviously.
- Rene Wirtz
But that isn't my point anyway. Maybe he was in a terrorist organization. After all, there are plenty of Christian cultists who perform acts of terror as well that need to be investigated. My point is that if you're just an average Muslim, why should you be subjected to harassment and threats?
- Victor Ganata
I see your point and I agree. But,we should hold off on any kind of comment or labeling until it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that he did belong to a terrorist sleeper cell. And the same thing needs to happen for whenever anyone of any religious affiliation commits a crime. Everyone should be treated equal and only those that committed the crime should be held rsponsible, not everyone who happens to share the perp's beliefs.
- Rene Wirtz
You realize that Yesterday was Guy Fawkes day right Victor? Kind of resulted in routing the Catholics right out of England. Go find me a British Catholic now. All because some dude decided to blow up parliament, and now 400 years later the British Catholic is extinct.
- Matthew DeVries
Andrew Sullivan, before he moved to the US?
- Andrew C
Well, yeah, like I said, Christian terrorists are well known throughout history. Ask anyone living in North Ireland, too, for that matter, right?
- Victor Ganata
Matthew -- Northern Scotland stayed Catholic...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Yes, Victor, there are extremists who claim parts of almost all religions. Even in India the wars between the various religions including the ones mentioned by Matthew were notorious. In Jesus' earthly time, there were Jewish zealots which is why he was under suspicion by the Romans. But he preached something entirely different: He said "my kingdom is no part of this world." and he also...
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- Melanie Reed
I think the apocalypse officially starts the day a Buddhist monk straps on high-powered explosives and takes out a government facility.
- Victor Ganata
I do think all Christians pay a price for the fanatical Christian fringe. It's why HBO can pee on Jesus and call it comedy. Granted the levels of real and feared retaliation aren't the same, but neither is the level of violence on the Christian side compare to the Muslim side. That said, blaming an entire group for the acts of a few is ALWAYS wrong. Unfortunately, human nature predicts that there will always be anti-X bigots whenever there are X bigots.
- Dawn
I really don't buy the idea that Muslims are more violent than Christians. There are more than 229 million Indonesians, the majority Muslim, and as far as I can tell, they don't really seem any more violent than Americans, really.
- Victor Ganata
Christians have a long history of extraordinary violence over the centuries. By the far the bloodiest war in American history (to pick one example) was instigated by Bible-thumping Southern fundamentalists -- the very same cultural group which is trying to instigate a global holy against Islam in contemporary times. They used the Bible and their version of Christianity as a justification for slavery and crude racism. They almost blew the United States to smithereens. They're still out there, in droves.
- Sean McBride
Is that a requirement? When I was Catholic I never worried about being attacked. By that same logic, if you're an abortion doctor or little kid you must live in fear of being shot or raped by Catholics. Everyone can live in fear, there's plenty of scary things in the world.
- Lo
I'm not talking about just living in fear though. I'm talking about having that fear realized, with people actually trying to harm you, just because of that association.
- Victor Ganata
a lot of it depends on where you live, too
- T. Brent, technopeasant
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- Lo
I think everyone in the world belongs to a group that has some reasoning to fear others. And most groups do have their fears realized. Men and women, religious or not, from the right or wrong place in the world/country/state/town, too young or too old. People categorize and when they do they push people where they don't belong. People who shoot others don't do it because they are religious or of a certain race, they do it because of some mental problem that causes them to be able to devalue human life.
- Heather
That's what I think, too, Heather. First and foremost, people who commit these kind of acts are mentally ill. Of course, that doesn't mean you can be automatically absolved of guilt, either. Just because you have a mental illness doesn't mean you aren't responsible for your actions, or that you don't have the capacity to make decisions.
- Victor Ganata
So Buddhists don't become mentally ill, but Muslims and Christians do? Why is that?
- Piaw Na
Piaw, I don't really think that either. Obviously, there are lots of cases where Buddhists kill other people and commit massacres. But Western media doesn't look for them like they do for Muslim or Christian terrorists.
- Victor Ganata
Mentally ill? I don't know about that. I think it has been proven, possibly scientifically, that people seek some type of religion so that their life makes sense. Some of us steer clear of organized religion, but most other people would put their lives up for it. If your very existence is tied to certain beliefs and somehow you have come to believe that you have to kill someone to uphold those beliefs, that's what you're going to do. I don't think it means you're actually mentally ill.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Yes, Rasheen. There is a big difference between what is classified as mental illness and being mentally blinded. We think, form ideas in mental pictures. If you have been shown the wrong mental picture by whatever circumstance, it is almost as if you are "under a spell". Both Chesterton and Lewis demonstrated that when writing to your audience and presenting an opposing concept to overcome faulty critical thinking you have to "snap the spell".
- Melanie Reed
Now, as far as the stigma against Muslims, I think it's complete and total bull. I'm no expert on religion, but it seems to me that they all share the same basic philosophies or whatever. For the majority of Americans to look down on one religion because of a few extremists is just ridiculous. I don't even think most Americans know what Jihad means.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Rasheen, I think before 9/11 that was correct. I remember the day and the first word that went through my mind when I fully let the report sink in was "Jihad" but that was because I remembered my study of it. I don't think that is the case now. I've been surprised at the sampling of people whose demeanor and clothes would have signified to me a lack of interest previously to these...
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- Melanie Reed
Rahsheen, I think you're right, there are people who rationally come to the conclusion that they have to kill for their religion and way of life, but in this case, I'm putting my money on the fact that he's seriously fucked up in the head. But that's just a hunch. I could be very wrong.
- Victor Ganata
Religions are definitely not the same. Buddhism is a far cry from the middle-eastern religions. I think to lump them all together does them a disservice. The evangelical religions, I think, are a particular blight on the human race.
- Piaw Na
I still remember what my Scripture teacher in high school, who was a Jesuit priest, said about other religions. If you looked at the most devout, pious followers of almost any religion and examined their personal attributes, what they had in common would far outweigh where they differed. Good people are good people. There are over a billion Muslims in the world, and to judge them by the actions of a few extremists is a serious injustice.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: "If you looked at the most devout, pious followers of almost any religion and examined their personal attributes, what they had in common would far outweigh where they differed. Good people are good people." -- Obviously the vast majority of religious folks aren't violent extremists, but it's among the "most devout, pious followers" of the Abrahamic religions that you're most...
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- Christopher A Carr
I disagree. The non-evangelicals don't usually run around declaring that you're going to hell for not believing in their god. The evangelicals are a blight for that reason. Similarly, the most devout fundamentalists are the most likely to shoot abortion-providing doctors.
- Piaw Na
Well, being a Jesuit, he would probably consider those kinds of evangelicals and fundamentalists to not be true Christians, in that they're following a perverted version of God's message. If you're going to perform eisegesis on the Bible, you can justify anything sort of behavior, but as far as I can tell, I don't think Jesus would condone massacring non-believers or damning them to hell. Unless I missed a few verses in the Gospels?
- Victor Ganata
Victor: Jesus doesn't want non-believers in hell?
- Christopher A Carr
Devout and pious in terms of following the true spirit of their respective religions. I can't really find anything in the Bible that explicitly says that God likes it when you kill lots of people and blow them up into tiny bits, and while I haven't read the Quran as closely, I don't think there's anything in there either that explicitly states violence is the best way to be a good Muslim.
- Victor Ganata
John 14:6 - "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
- Piaw Na
Yes, but where's the killing and the damning in the verse?
- Victor Ganata
Oh, the "true spirit" of their religions. I see.
- Christopher A Carr
Victor: There are calls for genocide in the OT, or are you not including that?
- Christopher A Carr
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." (Exodus 22:18)
- Piaw Na
So the way they taught us was that the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament whenever there's a conflict. From what I know, it looks like Jesus wouldn't have been into genocide, but I could be wrong.
- Victor Ganata
Yes, but what the hell is the definition of a witch? And, again, NT > OT.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: Ah, that's how that works. I figured they just cherry picked the parts they liked from the OT, and ignored the unsavory bits.
- Christopher A Carr
That is how it seems to work :D I haven't met a Catholic who was a complete literalist yet, but they probably exist.
- Victor Ganata
Christopher, not really. It is an entire narrative pointing to what happens in the New Testament. And the New Testament ties both together. How much and how far have you read in either?
- Melanie Reed
Melanie: How do you decide which parts of Leviticus still hold, and which do not?
- Christopher A Carr
Just for point of reference, religion-wise, I'm far from a devout Catholic. I consider myself agnostic, really. I think there's a lot of superstition and deliberate misinterpretation that people cling to by calling it tradition. I think the Church is very wrong on a lot of social issues, and hypocritical too if they're really supposed to be driven by Jesus' great commandments. But I was...
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- Victor Ganata
Christopher: it's sort of like the U.S. Constitution: the OT correspond to the articles, the NT are the amendments. At least that's how we were taught scripture my freshman year in high school.
- Victor Ganata
I had heard this previously and meaning lost in translation is a problem in all religions. "Thou shalt not suffer a poisoner to live". Poisoning was a huge problem at the time. King James was a huge believer in the occult. The play Macbeth was written specifically for him by Shakespeare based on James's interests. In the King James version, the word was translated inadvertantly (or maybe even purposefully) to "witch
- Eric Logan
Victor: There are lots of points in the OT that are never specifically amended, but are still ignored by (most) Catholics.
- Christopher A Carr
Eric: Fine, but what of all the slaughter and rape demanded of the Israelites by Jahweh?
- Christopher A Carr
Seriously question: I remember reading about a lot of stonings for various offenses. I'm assumings all that was old testament stuff?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Christopher: the Jesuits also taught us to interpret both the OT and the NT more as works of literature that embodied certain themes rather than an actual guidebook to human behavior. They clearly weren't writing for a modern audience. Slaughter and rape seem to be countermanded by Mark 12:28-12:34 http://bible.oremus.org/... but maybe I'm reading into the text.
- Victor Ganata
Christopher this is what the scriptures from the old testament to the new were about to give you a very condensed reply. The "law" which you mention coming from Leviticus as well as Exodus and Deuteronomy (which means "second law") were a "tutor leading to Christ" :http://www.biblegateway.com/passage... Jesus summed up the law and its purpose this way:...
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- Melanie Reed
Melanie: You can't paraphrase for me?
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, I was raised in a religious tradition that has doctrinal variances based upon what they believe to be transliterations of Hebrew. For example they do not believe in Hell. I found a site that talks about rape in the book of Numbers and will have to research it. I have never been a devout member of any religion. I do study comparative religion and religious origins.
- Eric Logan
Christopher: the heart of those passages are "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." and "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
- Victor Ganata
I'm also seem to remember there was a specific hierarchy for which text was considered authoritative. Something like Gospels > Acts > epistles > OT. It's been a while since I studied the Bible that closely.
- Victor Ganata
Rahsheen, There are a few incidents of stoning in the new testament. That was at the time part of the penal system. The vast majority of the scriptures referring to stoning are in the OT
- Eric Logan
Christopher, We were given a choice in the beginning: listen to God and live well or go our own way and endure the consequences (life as we know it today: not very pleasant for a lot of us is it? But we have free will) God worked out a plan within that free will to give us a chance out of this mess and back into a restored relationship with him. He had to educate a very stubborn minded...
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- Melanie Reed
So if the OT has mostly been countermanded, why do Christians so frequently cling to ridiculous shit like the tales of Genesis, Noah and the flood, Exodus, and so forth?
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, can you clarify what you mean by ridiculous?
- Melanie Reed
And as Eric mentions, the popular conception of Hell doesn't really exist in the OT or the Gospel. The original afterlife was Sheol, where both the righteous and the unrighteous end up. There's also Gehenna, where sinners go to be destroyed, but they don't get eternally punished. Certainly, the conception of Hell that they taught me in high school (which I perhaps wrongly assume is the...
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- Victor Ganata
Melanie: Sure, for one, you can't fit every species that was extant 5-something thousands years ago on a boat. What about nematodes that live in arctic ice, and Noah's boat sailed down to Australia to drop off all those marsupials?
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, since you and I weren't there as eyewitnesses, then from the evidence left, I think we can safely assume He found a way. And I for one am no gladder knowing the explanatory details that science would attempt to give us, than I am having been given the narrative which assures me that what I see survived did.
- Melanie Reed
Melanie: How long would it take you to get that boat to Australia?
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: I can't explain it either. Like I said, I have yet to meet a Catholic who interprets the Bible literally. Most Catholics I know don't believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old, or even that God completely destroyed civilization in a flood. They're stories that carry a divinely inspired message, but the instruments of that message are limited by their time and place and culture, and their perspective isn't our perspective.
- Victor Ganata
Victor: I think Melanie here takes a somewhat more literal view of things.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, right now I am studying advanced algebra (I actually have to get some homework done) and it provides me some activity of discovery. That discovery process is interesting, challenging and sometimes (when its a subject I like) very enjoyable. I'm very grateful that God left a lot of the details of the facts that don' t really change the reality a sort of "mystery" for me and...
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- Melanie Reed
Melanie: I'm not sure I understand what that means (sounds like a nice sentiment), but I'll let you off the hook here.
- Christopher A Carr
The flood story is much older than the Hebrew bible. I have a hunch Christopher already knows this. It appears in almost all religious traditions. Many Bible students and scholars say it originates from an oral tradition and the first recorded instance that takes the form of the Hebrew tradition appears on Sumerian cuneiform.
- Eric Logan
Really interesting discussion! I wish it were generally accepted that doctrines, faiths and ancient scriptures are not "true" - but they may have "value." Then one could sift out the superstitions, ancient "health codes" and terribly outmoded penal codes and acceptable crimes (slavery, incest, genocide.) Then careful study of all religions (such as Eric mentions) might find that the "value" of these faiths is shared to a large degree. But, I'm an Atheist, so it's not really for me to say :)
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Because religion has become an effective means of exerting and essentially an extension of political power. It is difficult to ascertain what surely many religious institutions know to be commonly held misconceptions and error. That where in many cases created in the interests of the organization. Core values and beneficence, which I think is the point Victor was trying to make here are more common than anyone would think based on centuries of conflict. Which certainly does not seem to be on the wane.
- Eric Logan
Eric: Regarding flood myths, suppose farmers around some body of water, 7k years or so ago, got word that the waters were coming, and had time to get some of their most essential animals on something that floats -- such an event would surely make an impression. The survivor diaspora retells the story over generations, and of course it turns into the whole world having flooded (might as well have been the whole world to them). ...seems plausible.
- Christopher A Carr
It is certainly plausible. It would be the whole world from their perspective. Might be time for a modern day council of Nicea.
- Eric Logan
Whatever your opinion of Catholic dogma, to get an accurate, up-to-date presentation of its tenets, you are best consulting the Catechism. In there, you'll find the Church's current position on all aspects of Catholicism: Hell, the Old Testament, the Flood story, relationship to Islam, etc. I suspect the Church would rather their authentic positions be questioned, than a misrepresentation. :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
sorry... this link might be easier to navigate (the index, instead of the T of C): http://www.vatican.va/archive...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
T. Brent: Their "authentic" position has sure changed over time, hasn't it?
- Christopher A Carr
yes. i don't argue that point.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Christopher: I think they'd argue that God's revelation isn't static. They value tradition almost as much as scripture itself, and tradition continues to evolve. The Church I grew up in was significantly different from the one my parents grew up in.
- Victor Ganata
@Victor I'm a wee bit jealous that you were educated by jesuits... I have a deep respect for them. :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Heh, I went to a Dominican elementary school and junior high. The priests there actually warned me about the Jesuits before I went to high school. I have to say, it was the Jesuits who taught me to question my faith. And I think anyone who argues that religion can't coexist with rationality and science has clearly never met a Jesuit.
- Victor Ganata
Exactly. Rigorous minds, eh?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I did a semester at a Jesuit university in Tokyo. Was odd to see the occasional, sort of ashen Swiss German priest, walk past Japanese nuns.
- Christopher A Carr
"I think anyone who argues that religion can't coexist with rationality and science has clearly never met a Jesuit." --- They just happen to be people with a talent for compartmentalization, and they often have fancy educations that make them even better at bullshitting themselves.
- Christopher A Carr
That's not rationality.
- Christopher A Carr
Maybe we define rationality differently. Being rational doesn't mean you necessarily know the truth (or non-truth) about something. (And I'm not even talking about supernatural things.)
- Victor Ganata
Also, I never had the balls to ask them what they REALLY think about transubstantiation :D
- Victor Ganata
Christopher: were you exposed to the Spiritual Exercises at all? I'd like to know what you thought of them...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
T.Brent: No, Sophia doesn't force any such thing on students. Sophia is a fairly well-regarded private university. Victor: We likely do have different definitions of "rationality." Were one to know the truth, there would be no need for processes of thought that could be deemed either rational or non-rational.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: there's no need to get nasty. i wasn't talking about being "forced" to do anything. I asked if you'd been exposed to it. And what difference does it make if it's a private university? Well-regarded, or not?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Sorry, didn't mean to sound nasty, Brent. Wasn't a goal.
- Christopher A Carr
apology accepted. mea culpa. ;)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Catholic Unis run by Jesuits don't tend to push Catholicism...to their credit...that's all I was saying.
- Christopher A Carr
Here are a couple sites that quite seriously address human rationality and cognitive biases: http://www.overcomingbias.com/ http://lesswrong.com/
- Christopher A Carr
Victor: Would love to hear that transubstantiation discussion.
- Christopher A Carr
thanks for the links, christopher... looks like interesting stuff.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Christopher: Given that Catholics tend to be non-literalists, I don't really see a conflict between science and Catholic dogma/doctrine. Lots of Jesuits were scientists and mathematicians. Georges Lemaitre, S.J. is credited with originating the Big Bang Theory. I don't think there's necessarily a need for compartmentalization, although I don't doubt that in many cases you're right about their ability to bullshit themselves and others :D
- Victor Ganata
casuistry = bullshit? lol
- T. Brent, technopeasant
"I don't really see a conflict between science and Catholic dogma/doctrine." -- What are you on about Victor? It's nice that the Vatican has recognized that "Adam and Eve" might not have been anatomically modern humans, but do you really think there's no conflict there? Conflict between, an investigation into the nature of species productivity from the implications of natural and sexual...
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- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: yeah, apparently the Vatican finds evolution perfectly compatible with Christianity http://www.reuters.com/article... It's basically a god-of-the-gaps approach. After all, we still don't know how the first cell came into existence :D
- Victor Ganata
It certainly does not find itself willing to follow the implications of neo-Darwinian investigation. And there is no such thing as a respected "Catholic Physics."
- Christopher A Carr
So you're saying the Big Bang theory is invalid because it was postulated by a Jesuit priest?
- Victor Ganata
I'll give the Catholics their lovely capacity for capitulation, though, relative to other nastier varieties.
- Christopher A Carr
That's quite the silliest thing you've said yet, Dr. Ganata...can you tell me why?
- Christopher A Carr
I'm being deliberately silly. Why would there be separate Catholic physics if they can make contributions to the real thing?
- Victor Ganata
"Sorry, didn't mean to sound nasty, Brent. Wasn't a goal." Changed your mind, Christopher? ;)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
T.B. ... No, just responding to circumstances.
- Christopher A Carr
(I'm watching Nirvana's live DVD right now. yup.)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Does that have that touch-up of "Bleach?"
- Christopher A Carr
Victor: a request. would you add me? feel as if we are working from similar pages, at least... :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Christopher: nope. bought that separately today, too... that's next... procrastinating my nanowrimo.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I don't know, I suppose I'm a naive fool, but the fact that even the Vatican can admit they're wrong, even if 500 years late, keeps me hopeful :D
- Victor Ganata
I'm pleased, relative to other flavors of Christianity, that HRCC eventually makes concessions to reality. And, if there are two Christian parties, both with some some cute chicks, I'm at the Catholic party. :-)
- Christopher A Carr
ok, now i'm hearing zappa's 'catholic girls' in my head... which is wrong! wrong! ;)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Heh. I understand that sentiment.
- Victor Ganata
I only ever get really curt with people I expect can handle it, and it's what I expect in return if someone finds me ejaculating some politic jibber-jabber.
- Christopher A Carr
It's not really my horse anymore, anyway. I'm just familiar with it. But I do find the way people automatically pit science against religion as if they were mutually exclusive to be sloppy thinking. You end up making untoward assumptions about what another person believes, which is always counterproductive. I'm certainly not a fan of creationism and intelligent design, but to ascribe that trash to people who don't believe in it either is basically demonstrating the same point I was trying to make in the OP.
- Victor Ganata
Christopher: for me, it's not about whether I can 'handle' curtness, or rudeness, but whether i want to tolerate it. I find that it, too, can be counter-productive.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
for the record, i have been enjoying this thread immensely. :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Victor: Science and religion *ARE* mutually exclusive. It's YOUR thinking that is sloppy.
- Christopher A Carr
so, after you accept those assertions, I'm going to carry on with X, Y, and Z...
- Christopher A Carr
Philosophy of Science and Philosophy of Mind I vote as mandatory pre-Med bio-undergrad classes.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher, supposing that they were mutually exclusive, is there no conception in your philosophy "whereby two opposite passions may blaze together"?
- Melanie Reed
Christopher, We have been able to fertilize ovum with sperm in a petrie dish but have we ever been able to create ovum or sperm itself? There is a premise of first things here no matter where you take this. If there is a story, there was a story teller. If there is a moral law, there was a moral lawgiver. If there is a painting, there was an artist. If there is a program, there was a programmer.
- Melanie Reed
Melanie; You are out of your depth. That complex things exist does not necessarily entail a more complex entity that created them... I'm happy to point this out to someone that won't get their feelings hurt. I don't think that's you.
- Christopher A Carr
All religions are the projections of the hopes, fears, desires, etc. of their human creators. They tell us much more about the human mind than about "God," and in that sense all religions are quite interesting.
- Sean McBride
Another take on religion: religions are instruments of social, political and financial control wielded by self-appointed and self-aggrandizing priesthoods.
- Sean McBride
Christopher, I think it's a problem of demarcation, rather than a direct conflict. Saying religion and science are intrinsically antagonistic is basically saying that physics and metaphysics can't co-exist. It's like saying science and ethics/morality are opposite forces. As far as I can tell there's nothing in the theory of evolution or general relativity that tells me how I should go...
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- Victor Ganata
Anyway, until someone demonstrates empiric proof that God does not exist, I'm going to have to answer "I don't know." Insisting that God doesn't exist despite lack of evidence is just as oppressive as the Bible-thumper insisting that the world is 6,000 years old, or that string theory is the grand unifying theory despite the fact that it doesn't make any experimentally testable predictions.
- Victor Ganata
The main problem: "God" is a human concept, subject to infinite definitions and interpretations. Even if one posits that "God" exists, one doesn't really have any meaningful idea of what "God" is. For all we know, "God" may be a malevolent and deceiving entity. (And judging by the extreme chaos and violence which wrack the universe, that might be the first reasonable conclusion one might come to, based on the empirical evidence).
- Sean McBride
Sean is right. And I'll add that Religion is a very clever concept serving a very useful function... giving normal people(believers) the walking stick of "hope" when their minds are crippled by fear***, anxiety, confusion, helplessness etc. (edit: I belief God exists, not as krishna, Jesus or allah or any other gods we worship but as an unseen unknown force within ourselves. I've...
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- vijay
Religion is a form of (understandable) self-medication (in the face of adversity, pain and suffering), as well as a tool of social, financial and political control by self-appointed priesthoods. It is also a form of mass hypnosis and mind control.
- Sean McBride
vijay -- note how often throughout history this use of religion as a technique of encouraging group consciousness and solidarity has been used as an instrument of aggressive warfare in the competition among human groups for territory, resources, wealth and power.
- Sean McBride
"Melanie; You are out of your depth." Christopher, we've just met. How do you know what my depth is? :) "That complex things exist does not necessarily entail a more complex entity that created them... I'm happy to point this out to someone that won't get their feelings hurt. I don't think that's you" Christopher, then I am happy to point out that next time you make something that you...
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- Melanie Reed
Melanie -- founders of religions, most of which contradict one another in a bewildering variety of ways, are human beings, just like you and me. They all make special claims based on alleged divine inspiration. One has to decide whether you value your own judgment and insights over theirs. I haven't encountered a religionist yet whose judgment and insights I value over my own, although some of them have contributed to my store of knowledge.
- Sean McBride
Christopher: Science and religion are not mutually exclusive. I took two quarters of philosophy of science as a freshman at Caltech, have read extensively in cognitive science, have a PhD in math from Berkeley, and am now working there as a research specialist in evolutionary genomics. On what basis would you assert that my thinking is sloppy?
- Ruchira S. Datta
What's sloppy is making broad generalizations based on your very limited experience of people from a small sampling of religions.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Ruchira -- the Bible is overflowing with bad science, wrong science -- mistaken notions about causality based on childish superstitions. Religion has an impressive track record of opposing science and persecuting scientists (Galileo comes to mind). Which advances in scientific knowledge were powered by religion?
- Sean McBride
Little thing called relativity Sean? You may have heard of it.
- Matthew DeVries
Sean - I did not say anything about the Bible. Did you notice what I said about a small sampling of religions? And which advances in scientific knowledge were powered by art? Does that make art and science mutually exclusive?
- Ruchira S. Datta
See "Brian Greene and religion" here: http://viciousmomma.blogspot.com/2007...
- Ruchira S. Datta
I keep wanting to recommend the article "Global Darwinism: Eastern enchantment" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed... but unfortunately it's behind a paywall.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Matthew: Actually, Newton saw his elucidation of celestial mechanics as being powered by religion. With Einstein, it's rather questionable.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Great art (as opposed to bad art) achieves its power not by making grandiose ideological claims about the universe, but by capturing sensuous observations about the world. We admire Dante's Divine Comedy not because of its exposition of Roman Catholic doctrine, but because of the beauty of Dante's language. Great art transcends all religious doctrines. Artists have more in common with scientists than do religionists.
- Sean McBride
What did religion have to do with Einstein's greatest scientific achievement?
- Sean McBride
Sean: I suspect Matthew was referring to Einstein's comment "God does not play dice" but many people think that Einstein was just using "God" as a shorthand, not something to take seriously.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Brian Greene: "I think it partly depends on your exact definition of religious. If it means the traditional notion of going to services and some organized religion, then the answer is no. If it means, does it fill me with a sense of awe and wonder about the universe, does it fill me with a sense of how remarkable it is that the pieces of the universe fit together with such logical...
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- Sean McBride
Sean: For me both religion and science bring me a sense of wonder. I'm not the only scientist whose investigations have been driven by this sense of wonder.
- Ruchira S. Datta
It's fine if religion expands your sense of wonder about the world, but religious "methods" will not advance scientific discovery. Science has its own rules, and they are quite precise.
- Sean McBride
Sean: Of course they are. All I'm saying is science and religion are not mutually exclusive. You say "Artists have more in common with scientists than do religionists" as if scientists and religionists are two nonintersecting categories, but that is simply false.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Einstein: "A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
- Sean McBride
Sean: I too believe that morality is worldly, not religious. This is also what my religion says.
- Ruchira S. Datta
In general, in my experience, artists are more open-minded, adventurous, pioneering, creative, etc. than religionists. These are not fixed categories, of course. Religion has inspired much great art. But the power of that art springs from artistic genius, not from an attachment to any particular religious doctrine.
- Sean McBride
Sean: Being artistic, being a scientist, being religious are different dimensions of being a human being. You are trying to put all of these things on a single dimensional scale and ordering them with respect to each other. One of the benefits of mathematical thinking is realizing there's no need or justification for doing that.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Sean: There exist religious people who are open-minded, adventurous, pioneering, and creative in their exploration of spirituality. There are others who are not. I've met both (even within my own religion). This is just what one would expect if Openness (one of the Big Five personality traits) is an orthogonal dimension to being religious.
- Ruchira S. Datta
I agree with you that there are many religious people who possess all those good traits, but there is little connection between religious fervor and artistic and scientific achievement. Religiosity on the one hand, and artistic and scientific genius on the other, are separate human faculties. And in quite a few cases, religiosity has been the enemy of artistic and scientific...
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- Sean McBride
Sean: It looks like we're coming to agreement. I would only add that the false idea that science and religion are mutually exclusive is *also* an enemy of scientific achievement.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Sean: Insofar as religion is a source of mental strength, it can help foster achievement of any kind. But of course it is not always such a source, nor the only such source.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Religion sometimes seems to be valuable for crystallizing and organizing intuitions and intimations about the universe, some of which can be later developed into substantive knowledge by the application of reason and scientific method.
- Sean McBride
Sean: You are still trying to order things which do not need to be ordered.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Feynman: "We must, incidentally make it clear from the beginning that if a thing is not a science, it is not necessarily bad. For example, love is not a science. So, if something is said not to be a science it does not mean that there is something wrong with it; it just means that it is not a science." http://books.google.com/books...
- Ruchira S. Datta
Sean: In particular, religion is very personal. The need for replicability and matching of cases with controls makes science a different domain.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Of course: things that are not science are not necessarily bad; they may be very good. But they are not science. That is all.
- Sean McBride
Religion is very personal; but many religionists (not all) try to enforce their unprovable beliefs on their neighbors and on the world at large. Thus history in great part is the chronicle of religious wars, fought in many cases over absurd doctrines.
- Sean McBride
"The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously." (Albert Einstein, Letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946) (I would have used the expression "anthropocentric projection.")
- Sean McBride
Sean: I agree that enforcing unprovable beliefs is destructive. Making fundamentalist materialism the dogma of scientific culture is more subtly destructive, as it keeps many good people out of science and in some cases, even from benefitting from science.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Sean: If you're still arguing with Matthew about Einstein, he seems to be gone now.
- Ruchira S. Datta
"Fundamentalist materialism"?
- Eivind
Eivind: Google it. I'm using it as shorthand for the idea that science *requires* atheism, which it doesn't.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Real scientists are not "fundamentalist materialists" -- they simply don't claim to know more than they know within the realm of scientific knowledge. What we don't know vastly exceeds what we know.
- Sean McBride
Sean: Agreed.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Great scientists are usually gifted with powerful imaginations -- they are willing to entertain all kinds of marvelous scenarios that aren't yet provable by science. They are always thinking about the mysterious unknown. In some sense, you could call them non-doctrinal religionists, I suppose.
- Sean McBride
Paul Thagard, director of the Cognitive Science Program at U. Waterloo, talks about this. See e.g. his article "The Passionate Scientist" http://cogsci.uwaterloo.ca/Article...
- Ruchira S. Datta
I googled it, Ruchira. "Fundamentalist", it seems, is just thrown in there to make sure people understand it's a bad thing and not the "moderate materialism"?
- Eivind
Eivind: "Fundamentalist" as in "intolerant of other views".
- Ruchira S. Datta
I think that is a misuse of the word, but an increasingly popular one.
- Eivind
Eivind: Well, originally the word only applied to evangelical Christians. By that usage, there can be no such thing as an Islamic fundamentalist, by definition.
- Ruchira S. Datta
I understand it as a strict adherence to a set of static rules (like holy books). That would be the "fundament" part of the word. What I see is people attaching it to whatever to make it sound negative.
- Eivind
The word "fundamentalist" does seem to have acquired the connotation of being intolerant to criticism and re-interpretation of one's beliefs.
- Victor Ganata
I guess it's possible to be a moderate fundamentalist, then? Nobody likes to be criticized or told what they actually believe :)
- Eivind
Yay! My astigmatism is gone. Went to my annual eye exam. For the 1st in 22 years, I have no astigmatism - just regular near-sightedness.
RAPatton, Bren, Photophobe, Jason Huebel and 17 other people liked this
Never knew astigmatism can come and go. Good to know. And congrats! =)
- ronin
Wow
- Rodfather
Do you miss it? Do you want mine? (Just diagnosed with one this year after 19 years of just being near-sighted.) And this is how the universe keeps it balance?
- SAM
Ronin: For the past 23 years, my right eye has been floating between -3.25 & -4.75, and my left eye between -2.75 and -3.75. The astigmatism ranges from -0.25 to -1.0 (Don't remember if it ever went over -1.0). Wish I were better organized. I don't know how much the astigmatism rotated over the years. Astigmatism started when I had a bad bout of manic depression in 1986.
- Mitchell Tsai
SAM: How much is your astigmatism?
- Mitchell Tsai
Just got 2 pairs of new glasses for $105.44 ($99 + tax) at Eyemasters. New lenses would have been the same price or more (so I got two $59.95 frames for free).
- Mitchell Tsai
My friend Rani got her glasses for $5 in India. Wish I could get those prices. :-) Of course, $5 in India is one week's salary...
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell, I had detectable astigmatism for about 4 years in my 30s, but it went away.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Ha3rvey: Did anything in particular help your astigmatism go away? In my case, it might have been weeks of scanning slot machines in the distance looking for 100+% machines. :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
I have no idea what happened. Each exam, it went down. My optometrist just shrugged shoulders and said "it happens"
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
from fftogo
I have astigatism as well, but I have no idea what state it's at right now
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
wow i never knew it could go away!
- Liz
DROOOoooooID.
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how is it? i totally want one.
- Jenna Bilotta
Great! Significantly faster than the G1. Better screen. The keyboard will take a bit of getting used to. The default notification sound is a robotic voice saying "DROOOoooooID", thankfully easily changed.
- Tudor Bosman
What, why would you change that ? :D
- Mo Kargas
*spock eyebrow* LOL
- Derrick
The screen is absolutely beautiful. YouTube videos over wifi (bandwidth detection?) are sharp and clear.
- Bill Strathearn
Also, it's the first phone I had that does email right; it can easily handle multiple email accounts (two Gmail accounts, both using the Android Gmail client; one IMAP account, and one Exchange account). It seamlessly merges the contacts from the different accounts (and also my Facebook friends) and allows me to configure different notifications for the different accounts.
- Tudor Bosman
from Android
What about the keyboard - heard it was kinda janky. Though my number one concern is Twitter (need to demo Twittdroid) then UX of 1. mail and 2. SMS
- Mona Nomura
The keyboard isn't great. It's not bad, but I think the one on my old G1 was *slightly* better. It's no Blackberry, it's no Sidekick (the Sidekick had the best keyboard, but it was also huge and clunky). There are two different email clients -- one for Gmail (which is awesome, and supports all Gmail features in a very Gmail-y way), and one for other accounts (IMAP/POP, Exchange) which I...
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- Tudor Bosman
I'm actually excited to play with one tomorrow - it sounds a lot more promising than the Pre.
- Mona Nomura
Contact integration is really great. You get an address book (which is automatically synced with your Gmail, Facebook, Exchange accounts), and, once you select a contact, you get a list of options (based on where the contact was imported from) -- call / SMS the phone numbers on the account, send an email, chat with them in Google Talk (it shows the Google Talk status right there in the...
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- Tudor Bosman
The wall charger is a generic USB charger, with a USB charging port, which is nice: you can use it to charge any USB-chargeable accessories. The phone comes with a standard USB-to-microUSB cable that can be used for either charging or data transfer. This cable is only 3ft long, which is a pain; come on, Motorola, bundling a 6ft cable would have cost you, what, 15 cents more?
- Tudor Bosman
I think I need a second iPhone - just so I can play games when I am on hold.
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Just use your earpiece and you can do it on your existing iphone :-)
- Jesse Stay
You know other, real, smartphones will let you do both...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
MVB, so will the iPhone, but not sure Louis realizes that :-)
- Jesse Stay
I do that all the time, on one iPhone. Jailbreak and get Kirikae. It's a background app switcher. Basically you double tap the home button, select the Phone App, make your call, then in the middle of the call, double tap again and switch back. Both run just fine. Sound is an issue, obviously, so I usually turn off the sounds of the game I'm playing.
- Otto
Hush, Jesse. I could put the call on background, but don't wanna'. And I'm not jailbreaking.
- Louis Gray
Otto, I don't think jailbreak is necessary to do what Louis wants to do. Phone calls can go on in the background on the iPhone natively.
- Jesse Stay
Couldn't you just get an iPod Touch for that?
- ronin
I have one that a PR company sent over to test one of their new apps. Should I just keep it? What would the FTC say?
- Louis Gray
Why not get a Droid for calls, and use the iPhone for what it really is - a gaming platform? :)
- jcunwired
Droid for calls and iTouch for everything else. :)
- Amani
nice! get triplet iPhone, droid and blackberry
- testbeta
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Into My Arms (1x5) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Myka ION brings Hulu, Boxee and other web content to your TV - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
"It's been almost a full year since we heard a peep from the fine folks at Myka, but it looks like we could be talking about 'em a lot more often judging by the specs list on its latest contraption. The simply-titled ION is an Atom-based media PC that relies on NVIDIA's Ion graphics set and a customized interface that brings Hulu, Boxee and pretty much any other web content you can stumble upon to your television. Within, you'll find a 1.6GHz dual-core Atom 330 CPU, up to 4GB of RAM, ten USB 2.0 ports, VGA / DVI / HDMI outputs, an eSATA connector, Ethernet and plenty of audio outputs. The fanless design ensures that things remain quiet, and for those oozing cash, a Blu-ray drive, HDD and WiFi module can be implanted. It's up for order right now starting at $379, but you'll be stuck waiting four to six weeks for delivery."
- David Cook
from Bookmarklet
West Coast - Second Post as everything just erased from the page.
Iván Abrego, Live4Emma (L4S), Anne Bouey and 10 other people liked this
I love the way the air tastes, next to a clean waterfall...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Do you remember
Once upon a time? ahaha
When there were open doors,
An invitation to the world,
We were falling in and out with lovers
Looking out for others
Our sisters and our brothers.
Come to me, cover me, hold me,
Together we'll play a genius list seeded with Erasure's Chains of Love
Timothy Griffin, Kol Tregaskes, Nine and 8 other people liked this
how can I explain where there are few words I can choose
- Gunny Wallen
Ahh, the memories.
- ronin
Let's all publicly love each other for a bit. Say something nice about another friendfeeder.
Bicentennial (Franc), John E. Bredehoft, Louis Gray and 84 other people liked this
Derrick is really cute in person, and he's funny as hell.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Nakachi is the bringer of words that brighten every day.
- LogEx
I like that one, Logical Extremes. Again, the ability to like individual comments or posts would be good here. On topic, Ophelia, who is not that active on friendfeed but filters here anyway, is very good with words. Her updates both entertain and inspire me.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Monique posts something that makes me smile or chuckle just about every day she's active
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
FFing Enigma (aka Tina) is articulate, witty, and passionate.
- Glen Campbell
RAPatton might be the best dad i've ever read about (my dad excluded of course)
- Steve C
I still love Anika's avatar.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I have to pick one?
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Nope. You can do it as many times as you like. For instance, I like how ha3rvey is funny and just a genuinely nice guy. :)
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Akiva's great pictures of Babby Audrey and Rochelle always make me smile (technically that was just about one person... sorta...) :D
- Her Lindsay-ness
"i18n" is short for "internationalization", i+<18 letters>+n. By that schema, i80and saved us all a lot of screen real estate.
- DGentry
What can I say about one person? Jason Toney's posts always elicit wonder and insight. RAPatton, I feel like is just full of awesome with his insight and approach to things. Haggis is a barrel of laughs. Steven Perez (when he's not fighting with conservatives) has spawned his own catchphrase. Nicholas K. is just about the most awesome single dad I've seen in a long time. Tina and...
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- Derrick
Victor Ganata is extremely intelligent, empathetic and articulate. He has always been exceptional in understanding others whether he agrees or disagrees with an opinion, and he always treats everyone with the utmost of respect.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Jonathan Hardesty is funny and wants to have my babies.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I wish I could call everyone out. If we interact here on FF, take it on faith that I pretty much love you.
- Derrick
You know me, I can't ever pick one person so I will simply say that every single person I subscribe to is smart, interesting, funny and make being on this crazy little site damn entertaining. Those that I've been lucky enough to get to know beyond the site prove to me every day that everyone who has ever said only weirdos and stalkers are online are just smoking crack.
- ♥patricia♥
I'm with you there, Derrick. There are so many people here who are funny, smart, interesting, entertaining, etc. There are even a couple who make me blush. NOT NAMING ANY NAMES. And then there's that cilantro dude.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Steven Perez is a funny guy, and can cheer me up when I'm down.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
My first public skype call was with Tad, Glen and the Amber - a lovely conversation with great people. Tad was bold enough to live stream his workstation software install expedition and is a friend to all; Glen is chalk full of incisive wit and has an easy going conversational style; and the Amber was open enough to admit she's shy but worked up the courage to get on the call anyway. Like I said, great people, and quite representative of all the good people in the land of friendfeed.
- Micah Wittman
Derrick tells the truth! There's so many awesome people I can't choose just one.
- Rodfather
Anika Malone is as straight a shooter as there ever has been She will always tell you the truth about what she thinks. I find that to be a quality many people could use more of, and I respect her, and love her for it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
I can't believe that there are people I'm not subbed too.
- Derrick
Shevonne is a hottie, and not because she is nice to look at.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Damn, Amber. LOL
- Derrick
I love how Amber unabashedly states things.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I wrote in my 25 things that one of my laments in life is finding a woman who challenges me mentally. Tina does just that. With aplomb. There have been countless times that I was sure of myself and she will make a comment that causes me to completely rethink the issue entirely.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Louis Gray got me to think about just being myself and not allowing the tech heavy side of FF to intimidate me.
- Derrick
Michael W May and RAPatton have the best tastes in music I've ever seen in my life, I applaud and covet their music collection.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Derrick and Mona and Akiva and Rochelle and Jandy and many of you make me laugh every day.
- Louis Gray
Derrick is the shizzle, treated me like an old friend. That's one of 500 nice things I have to say about other Friendfeeders.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Rachel Fox takes outstanding pictures.
- Louis Gray
My little pea... fierce as a woozle, indeed! So quiet and unassuming... But so poignant at exactly the right moment. The exactly right phrase to every situation. If she can' brighten your mood, nobody else can, either.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Johnny is just plain awesome
- Amber, Random Time Lord
DYSP! Steven and I disagree here and there but in the end I absolutely admire his sense of humor and his passion. A truly A-Lister here on Friendfeed.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Alex Scoble, Cristo, Chris White and Thomas Hawk vigorously defend their views, but never take it (or make it) personal.
- Kevin Fox
Whew... Only 642 more to go...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
I love all of you here making my day brighter :)
- BeeLing
Thomas Hawk makes me want to be a better photographer.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Derrick and Monique would be my road dawgs if we lived in the same city
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Robert Scoble is on a mission to close down every other social network.
- Louis Gray
Tad is fun to chat with, even during the awkward moments
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I love the fact that Rochelle always likes the same stuff I like. And that Akiva and I both grew up in southeast Texas.
- Glen Campbell
I think, most of all, Derrick has redefined what it means to be yourself. I have had the distinct honor of meeting him and what you see here is Derrick. He shares his joys with us, which is easy, but he also shares his pain with us. I must say that I am jealous of his ability to be open, and I admire him immensely.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
I love everyone who gives me a reason to drop my pants... that and Josh Haley.
- Johnny Worthington
I love johnny dropping his pants....o_O
- WorldofHiglet
Pea has a lovely voice and makes days better.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Bow to Joe Pierce and his movie prowess.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
*drops pants*
- Johnny Worthington
edythe, Morton, and Kol for liking so much, they allow everyone to notice each other.
- Rodfather
I can't thank April Russo enough for all the help she has given me here at Friend Feed. She is awesome in my book.
- Brent - Long Live Rock
I'd like to know how it Is I'm seem to be commenting right around the time Johnny is droppin' Pants?
- Brent - Long Live Rock
Way too many good things to say about way too many people - I don't want to leave the island
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Anna and Rodfather are great for liking the same random crap I do.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
James (Tsali) you win for putting up with me all this time. Rah for being Rah. Anika for cutting to the quick in a conversation. And etc... you know you rock if I follow you.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I guess what I am saying is there are roughly a squillion people on Frienfeed of whom I am in awe and also whom I have the most respect.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
i like jim janotti. he's cool.
- Trish Haley
i dig vijay and his love of all things japanese is fun.
- Trish Haley
johnny worthington and his family are wicked beautiful.
- Trish Haley
So are the Haleys!
- Johnny Worthington
rochelle and akiva are nice in person and on FF...
- Trish Haley
i would trust pea and trish r to babysit zoe. (that's saying a lot)
- Trish Haley
aww. I would love to babysit Zoe! That means a lot, thank you.
- ♥patricia♥
You are all awesome, but bonus props to Tina (aka) for consistently being the voice of reason in every conversation, to Derrick for being Derrick, Jandy for keeping it real, and Chris Baskind for bringing the issues, Kol Tregastes for non-stop cool stuff...man, I'm realizing I could go on...what an amazing community :-D
- Louis Simoneau
Mattie Kenny is the Dulcinea to my Don Quixote.
- Steven Perez
3 of you are awesome for donating to the cause of FFundercats recently.
- Josh Haley
i like the conversations with katie about books. i like holly because she's a librarian and helped me with a geek problem. shevonne is down to earth and makes me want to buy boots.
- Trish Haley
Holly is sweet and nice.
- Steven Perez
WorldofHiglet is the Slayer. What else need be said?
- Steven Perez
Josh Haley RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLES!!!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Actually, many of the people in this thread are in my "FF Favorites" list
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Every time something mildly bad happens I think to myself "DAMN YOU STEVEN PEREZ!" (hey, I think that's something nice to say about him ;)
- Alejandro
darren heydon is good for warm fuzzies.
- Trish Haley
I can't pick out one specific person. I can name a few names, but there's a specific reason why I am subscribed to every person I am subscribed to. Jandy and Lindsey all kinds of rock, fellow geek chic - so they have to. :P Johnny keeps me cracking up. Zee is my boy for sure, we'd make a ton of trouble if we lived near each other. Monique is straight up, which is win. I can't keep naming people...it would...take up way too much time. I am sure I will though.
- Candace
anika converted me to munchos... yum!
- Trish Haley
joey is charming. Helen is real. Penguin is adorable.
- Laura Norvig
Anika has wonderful, curious kids.
- John E. Bredehoft
Outsanity is one funny motherfucker
- Outsanity & Kate + Hate
Parth has a wonderful soul. Abby makes me giggle. Carlos and Cee Bee hotties who post some interesting material. Laura Botts and Jim's banter gives me happy feelings all day. Everyone I'm subbed to rocks. That's why I'm subbed to them.
- Anika
Robert Scoble was the first person I heard mention FriendFeed.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
High-five to Leather Donut for bringing us some tits and ass *thumbs up*
- Outsanity & Kate + Hate
oh, it would be so hard to list them all. FF is full of lots of interesting, hilarious, entertaining, and just outstanding individuals.that I look forward to interacting with, many of whom have already been mentioned. yes, even that cilantro lover ;) There's also a fantastic bunch of librarians who hang out here and make me proud to call myself a librarian. yeah, we kinda rule. :)
- holly
Holly is right. I *adore* my collection of librarians here.
- Anika
Michael W. May for his taste in music, Abby Martin for her exceptional good taste in movies (and being a great mother), Håkan and Rutger for their photos and Robert Scoble for the geek stuff. And Esther for being both sweet and smart. But all of the people I sub to are people that brighten my day!
- Baard @ Pixum
MWM and RAP and Haggis for the music mindshare, Tad and Steven Perez and Josh Haley and Worthington for cracking me the HELL up, Derrick for being Derrick so awesomely, Anika and Krynsky and Amani and other LA peeps for helping me learn the city, Abby and Joe Pierce and Logical Extremes and others for the fab movie convos, Louis Gray for apparently paying more attention to me than I...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'm just really happy to have a great internet family. :) That's what makes FRIENDFeed so awesome.
- Internet's Tad
to all ppl i follow, thankyou for sharing with me too, :)
- chaz2b
I feel me some Abby Martin especially b/c of her passion for sports and movies ... Jandy for not seeing me stalk her when she was drunk posting at the show ... Shey for being the first cool Canadian I have ever met ... Mona for laughing at me when i asked for advice (and then giving me good advice) ... Anika for opening up her home ... Shevonne for being a fly girl with some fire ... I'll continue in a bit
- Amani
I´ll add some love for Derrick as well b/c he was the first friendfeeder to take me under his wing and show me the ropes here. BUT there has since become a handful or two more that define my good friendfeed experience. Intelligence, humour and warmth is abundant amongst you all, so thanks.
- Thomas Bøhm
Amani, were you for serious there?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Mona is incredibly thoughtful and considerate of others, not to mention AWESOME!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Agree with Holly and Anika - my librarian peeps here are amazing. And there's so many of us!
- Laura Norvig
Yolanda always makes me smile. MWM and Tina are always helpful, caring, and knowledgeable. Anika is just awesome, especially her smile. Steven's singing is great. Outsanity & Tad always make me laugh (MVB often, too). Alex & Chris B. make me think. Derrick makes me feel. Jemm & Nia provide so many late night smiles. I appreciate Katie for getting me reading more, and Lindsay for getting...
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- Alix Whitmire
Jandy, I will never tell ...
- Amani
Amani o_O
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
thanks for letting me hang out with you Friendfeeders(all of you) it's an honor and lots of fun!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Steve C. always makes me laugh, ALWAYS. plus everyone else mentioned here is truly awesome as well :)
- Kelly
Sorry, I can't say anything at the moment because I'm still enjoying everyone's warmth from Jandy's group hug
- Mark Krynsky
It's hard to pick anyone out because my total FF is made up of so many brilliant people: funny, witty, acerbic, insightful, mind-blowing, thrusting, truth-seekers, provocative, timelords (okay, there might only be one of them...). I love the tech, the LOLs (and the LOLcats), the debates, the discussions, the shared problems, the glimpses into others' lives....And Monique, you have started one of my favourite threads so special props to you.
- WorldofHiglet
Monique is a clever woman to kick off such a good thread
- RAPatton
Josh and Trish and Tina and Yolanda and Derrick and DYSP Steven make me smile and laugh when I need it. Johnny Worthington always hears when I post an "OMG help me!" kind of thing, and he usually responds with the most absurd and sweet message. Also, he has haiku battles with me, which is all kinds of WIN. Mark W and Fierce Lindsay make me smile, and Mark VandenBerg makes me LOL. And there are so many other sweet and funny and clever people who fill my day here on FriendFeed... thank you to everyone!
- Ladybug Heather
AKA Tina is really good at putting up with my silly e-crish.
- teh Dork Knight
I love the wit of many but must say MVB can make me spit drinks at the glance of his posts.
- Janet
I don't even know where to begin. There are so many people who I love for different reasons. Hmmm..My LAers (Derrick, Amani, Derrick, Anika, Monique, Edythe) because they are always cooler than cool. My New Yorkers (Mona and Cee Bee) because they bring the versatility. My mothers (Abby, Rochelle, Jen, Katie) because they always remind me how great is it to be a mom. RAPatton because...
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- Shevonne
That's OK, Shevonne. I'm sure it will come to you. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
You see....Steven Perez because he's funny as hell, and then there is Yolanda cause she is one of the sweetest EVER. Ugghhh too many. This is like giving an acceptance speech. =D
- Shevonne
Not me! I was talking about Mike Nayyar. He's so lonely in his dumpster. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
I love all of you!
- joey
I enjoy everyone, but like Thomas Hawk's photos and philosophies the most, and learn more from Louis Gray than anyone else.
- jcunwired
Returning the love to Amani and Abby -- you guys are two of the most honest and kindest souls on FF. Others: RAPatton probably doesn't have a single mean bone in him (ok, poor choice of words there), I could watch Dobromir's feed all day long, Shevonne is a ray of FF sunshine, Akiva is just flat out funny
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
There are so many people here that make being here worthwhile that I cannot single out just one. You guys all rock in your own special ways.
- Alex Scoble
I LOVE ROBERT SCOBLE! ~ just not in that way. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
- sofarsoShawn
Awww thanks Shey! My favorite Jamaican. There is Pea, my fellow DCer who is one of the most genuine peeps up in here!
- Shevonne
I love interacting with all the smart, funny FFolks on here! Too many to name, but among my favorites are: Lindsey (the Fierce), Rochelle/Akiva/Audrey, Derrick, Ladybug and Scott, Jim J, RAPatton, Tina (the Enigmatic)... You all rock my world!
- Laura B coughin' less
ceebee and RAPatton post the most interesting stuff. and even if he wasn't my boo, i'd still be all up in JT's feed for his pop culture and politics mix. love their stuff
- tiffany
M F has a great eye for great eye candy.
- Mark H
there are many friendfeeders i feel particularly warmly to because something of their inner self is always coming out: Michael W. May (who has always been at the top of the list), Morton Fox, Anika/Faboo Mama, Yolanda, rap, Cecily, Tad, Akiva, Rochelle, Lindsey, Lindsay D., Beeling, Rodfather, Ginger Makela, Mark Trapp, Ceebee, Shevonne, Abby Martin, Jandy, Zach Landes, Nathan Rein,...
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- edythe
The community / user base of friendfeed is one of the biggest reasons that these days, I'm spending more time on friendfeed versus twitter. I love you all, even the people that annoy me from time to time.
- Jeremy
and even yuvi, despite the fact that he used to call me Old Woman. :) and Donna Mugavero and Joanmarie and Michelle Martinez... and Silpol (now A.T.) and oh my gosh PARTH!!!! :)
- edythe
and oh my gosh Shey and his jaw-droppingly lovely wife Jasmin... i like Robert Scoble, too, because he always seems upfront to me and never mean.
- edythe
Additions - Cee Bee for highest quality posts consistently, Ebrahimi for pictures and translating squiggly for me, Iain for celebrity without celebrity tude, Jessie and Soup most socially conscious posts, Tina for being FF spirit leader, Lindsey online 24hours day, Anne and Jim for getting me here. :)
- Steve C
I 'like' Tyson Key! And a bow toward Trish Haley, thanks for making me blush. Speaking of Haleys, Trish, Josh, and Morgan have all become favorites of mine. MVB makes me laugh like a fool, as does relative newbie Valley... he is one funny dude! Gosh, all these names are coming to mind! I'll probably have to comment more later. But for this go-round I will close by saying... if Carmen ever stops posting those daily mug shots, I'm going offline!
- Jim Hearts FF
Oh, and to Monique who I guess I am not subsribed to... you completely win for putting up this post. What an excellent, excellent gift to the community!
- Jim Hearts FF
Mona has gorgeous legs! :)
- Beau "Slick Foot" Liening
I gotta' send some love out to the original band of hooligans who got me hooked on FF: edythe, RAP, Brandon, MWM, Louis Gray & Robert Scoble. You guys filled my world with gobs of geekiness and great interaction on SO MANY different levels. Thanks for making my addiction to FF possible. Of course, now there are so many, many, many others who help to keep me here. I can't even begin to name you all.
- Lisa L. Seifert
PS: Thanks for putting up with my Twitter-heavy stream while I'm in school for this year. Eventually, I'll have time to interact more again. xoxo
- Lisa L. Seifert
Alix is a wonderful caring wife who tolerates me and my annoying sleeping/eating/battlestar watching habits. I is lucky.
- Shawn Whitmire
I love Akiva for bringing the comedy and the pain. I love Derrick for being as real in the OSH parking lot as he is on FF. I love Monique for being the Pied Piper of the interwebz and helping me recover my sanity. I love James for being so gently poetic. I love Rahsheen for the soft porn videos he always takes in bed. I love Johnny Worthington for being such a cuddle muffin of hair and vulgarity. I love Steven Perez for being a quicker wit than me and nicer than me all at once.
- nakachi
I love Kaia for the name Baronnes Von Cut A Bitch. I love Robin (bcultural) for the science and the nation building. I love Logical Extremes and Rodfather for their quiet affirmations that never go unnoticed. I love Helen for the virtual daps she gives me whether I'm flying or firing. I love Anna Haro for all the little hearts she sends my way <3 to you, too, honey girl.
- nakachi
It would take too long for me to put all my 328 subscriptions in here! If I'm following you, rest assured that you and your content matter to me. :)
- Laura B coughin' less
I love Rochelle 'cause momminess becomes her. And I love YOU!
- nakachi
Nakachi's Facebook status updates blow my mind
- Rodfather
I love this thread. We need an effing FF CONVENTION.
- Derrick
This past week has not been a very good one for me and I might have lost it completely if it hadn't been for Johnny, Steven and Derrick for all dropping their pants for me. I love that there are people on here, that I have never met, that care enough to make me laugh when I am feeling way crappy. <3 And of course there are more, just giving props to those that made me feel better this week :) MWAH!
- Penny
Nice Thought Monique - Two thumbs up.
- Brent - Long Live Rock
Also, Nia for her beautiful photos and Mo for making me laugh too :)
- Penny
I'm ready for more. I love Nia for her kindness and her pictures. I love me some g.warbucks 'cause she's brilliant AND pretty to look at. I love tiffany for sharing the good, the bad and the tipsy. I love Chris Weige for keeping art on my mind. I love that the people who subscribe to me give a damn about what I have to say enough to take the time to read me. I'm grateful.
- nakachi
from fftogo
I had no idea when I started this thread that it would blow up like this. I think this is a clear example of the value of friendfeed: the relationships we build. Sure, we have differing interests, politics, social situations and opinons, but at the end of the day, what we come here for are the people. No one exists in a vacuum, and if they did, they probably wouldn't have a friendfeed...
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- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Shut up, bitch.
- Derrick
Just playin'. :)
- Derrick
Best two comments ever.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It is hard to pick a single person but as stated...you all bring me much needed laughter. I especially LOVE the ladies room girls - you bring the essence of love. Thank you so much.
- Janet
Personally, I think Akiva Moskovitz rocks. He's one of the main reasons why I use FriendFeed. If it weren't for him, I probably wouldn't even be here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah, probably not.
- Christopher Harley
Can I just say I love you all??
- Katie: Witch Of The West
Monique is all kinds of sexy. From all shy and flirty to 'oh my!' and dirty! Me likes the Mo'!
- Morgan Haley
Kaia is the bee's knees because she changes her name to the funniest stuff.
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
Monique rocks because she sings off-key in supermarkets and doesn't give a damn. (She will understand this.) :)
- Ms. G.Warbucks IYN
That was a fun night.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
not to sound too much like a Mutual Admiration Society, but edythe's feed was what got me hooked on this place. :-D
- Karim
Ha, there are too many awesome people here to list and compliment individually; but Denton Gentry, Kevin Johnson, and Morton Fox are all awesome and extremely skilled techies!
- i80and
The FF founders and employees rock pretty hard too thanks Paul, Bret, Jim, Anna etc
- Steve C
browneyes
- otsunegi
Lindsay D. and Kol Tregaskes are kind and respectful even when disagreeing with someone. Civility like that deserves a mention because it is not often the norm in the online world.
- Jim Hearts FF
Penny for her personality and her self portraits which are awesome and so real!<3 Dobromir, Richard and Michael who always wishes good morning ^^. Manuela, because of her sense of style what becomes to art, also a very lovely person! Nakachi, Girl, you rock my world! Stay as you are - you are wonderful! L4S who is so much fun and amazing person :) Will, cause of his kindness and cause...
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- Nia
Everybody already mentioned in this thread, plus Meryn and Joelle for being really smart and inquisitive about some of things I find particularly interesting, too. Or at least the way they discuss them. Not that I don't think that way about the rest of you, just no one had mentioned them yet.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Jim, yeah there's no need to be bitchy while disagreeing. Get your point over but don't be nasty about it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bumping this, I hope. Loved this thread!
- Laura B coughin' less
I think Josh Haley has a very smart and charismatic older brother. No, not that one...the other one...
- Morgan Haley
*bump*
- Laura B coughin' less
Laura Botts cracks my shit up. I'm still trying to figure out what her obsession with grits is.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
This thread was the business. *stirs grits*
- Derrick
Mo, she's a Suthehn Gul.
- Derrick
IIRC, it's all Barry's fault.
- Laura B coughin' less
Oh, and Ha3rvey's post today made me think of this thread. http://friendfeed.com/ha3rvey...
- Laura B coughin' less
Mo Kargas for his awesomeness. (I hope that by honoring great killer robots my death shall be quick and painless once they take over the world)
- Jemm
i80and for his Linux postings, FFing Enigma for roller derbying, Mo Kargas because... the giant robot intimidates me.
- DGentry
echostreamer has solid integrity and calls me on my sh!t - highly appreciated
- William Harryman
How did I miss thread? It needs a comeback. Thank you LB for the bump. If you think I might know who you are, the odds are high I love you and thank you for being around (even if you have moved on, in which case you won't see this, but it is important to mention nonetheless) and thank you for letting me into your lives a little bit *hugs*
- Michael W. May
MWM, this was one of the best FF threads I've ever seen. Sometimes it just needs to reappear. :) #complimentSunday
- Laura B coughin' less
I didn't see this the first time round either (but it looks like I was in NYC when this was happening). I have friends who I knew before FF for whom friendfeed has allowed me to know better and there are folks like RAP, edythe, and MwM whose posting and conversation have enriched my life and ignited my imagination. Thanks kids. And, of course, I love Sneezy but FF had little to do with that.
- Jason Toney
I really admire Kol Tregaskes, he's always informative and gets involved quite a bit with almost everything. Quite the most selfless individual I ever came across on the net :) ... Also Holden Page impresses me everyday because he's a younger individual with tons of interest in several subjects that most older users usually get into, he shows he's not afraid to learn and keep his...
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- Tim Tunnicliff
I've met a lot of great people here on FF (I won't single anyone out). This is a diverse community that has brought some great conversations that simply could not have been done with a little blue bird and whale.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Holly Rae is the biggest FF'in promoter within a hundred mile radius of my chair. :)
- Laura (hear me raura?)
I can't really say much about anyone specific, other than ya'll are the greatest and have helped amuse me through some very hard times over the past year or so, and a special thanks with much love goes out to Amber, the Random Time Lord for introducing me to FF and for putting up with me for this long.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I totally like Louis Gray - Mike Fruchter - RAPatton - Worthington - CS Techcast - and tons of other people - thanks for making my use of FF enjoyable.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Gosh! Thank you very much, Tim!
- Kol Tregaskes
You're very welcome my friend :+) TIM J. TUNNICLIFF
- Tim Tunnicliff
from email
The bigger the referral bonus, the more likely a person is willing to refer people they wouldn't actually want to work with.
Louis Gray, Candace McCarty, Alex Scoble and 4 other people liked this
Or the more likely they are to search harder to find someone that will actually make it through the rigorous interview process ;-)
- Jesse Stay
By this logic, then referral bonuses should be negative valued, right?
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
This is a general principle of many incentive systems. The bigger the reward for information about a crime, the more chance someone will try to frame someone else. If you offer a big incentive to a team for shipping a product by a certain date, you have more risk the team will ignore or undervalue a critical bug.
- Stephen Mack
Jesse, or they should have a cost for submitting each referee, maybe 4% of the bonus for an accepted offer? And the cost can be reimbursed if an offer is extended, whether it's accepted or not?
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, yeah - that would probably help some, for sure
- Jesse Stay
It's always nice when people resort to using STFU in a discussion.
Dario Gomez, MVB (Curmudgeon of FF), The Bohemian Penguin and 5 other people liked this
Well how else would you win Cristo? sheesh :P
- Holden Page
SHUT IT
- Rodfather
BLOCK
- ronin
STFU!
- Alex Scoble
SHUT YOUR FRIENDFEEDING HOLE.
- Mona Nomura
Nice to know there's a lot of interest in me STFU. :)
- Cristo
FriendFeeding Hole. *dead*
- joey
Mona can say that, since she's only got a tweeting hole now. ;)
- Cristo
Is Cristo commenting on this? I don't see his comments
- directeur
directeur, you have to have your head outside of your ass to see them. ;)
- Cristo
If I use STFU in general friendly and/or familial conversation I feel it's appropriate to use it in online discourse. Since I have told a variety of friends and family to STFU at some time or another, I shall do the same here: STFU! =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Such good manners, that young lady.
- Cristo
It means you won the discussion.
- Jeremy
Now I want to create a new Star Trek series called (something like): Star Trek: Forever Unit about a team of Star Trek security officers who patrol the timeline. Whenever any villains try to change history, the officers show up and yell, "Freeze! ST:FU!"
- Stephen Mack
Stephen wins!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The arch wave, islands, rocks, Pacific Ocean and South... - http://emmeffe.tumblr.com/post...
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bit-tech.net | EA: "Singleplayer is no longer the future" - http://www.bit-tech.net/news...
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"Speaking at an EA Winter Games Showcase earlier this week and EA spokesperson said that the company strongly believed that multiplayer games were the most exciting place to be developing and that singleplayer experiences may well be on the way out."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Well that's kinda crummy as I've only got time for single player experiences.
- ronin
My son and I have been going back to play "A Link to the Past." Single player is still fun.
- Jeremy
I put away singleplayer games years ago. Not that I play often, but when I do its with and against live people (well, I think its live people, but since its the interwebs I can't be too sure).
- jcunwired
Verizon calls AT&T's bluff, demands their suit proceed to trial, putting AT&T in the unenviable position of explaining -- in court -- why the coverage maps, despite being accurate, are inaccurate. - http://www.pcworld.com/busines...
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"AT&T is now asking a court on an emergency basis, essentially, to help it cover-up its network's shortcomings. While Verizon was building a 3G network that covers the boonies, AT&T did not."
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from Bookmarklet
Someone has some s'plaining to dos.
- Christopher Harley
from iPhone
I love it. I don't really like VZW (I actually have a blood oath never to use them again), but seriously, the audacity of AT& "More bars in more places" "fastest 3g network" T calling VZW commercials misleading just was too much for me.
- Chieze Okoye
West Coast Bounty
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So beautiful!
- rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu
HDGURU.Com » 120/240 Hz LCD Problems Exposed - http://hdguru.com/120240-...
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"Using test patterns on a new test disc that can, for the first time, clearly demonstrate the ME/MC circuit’s image degradation, the HD Guru tested five leading LCD HDTV brands (Vizio, Samsung, Sony, Sharp and LG). Each manufacturer employs a trademarked name such as Motion Flo (Sony) and Auto Motion Plus (Samsung) for its respective ME/ME processing circuit."
- Cristo
from Bookmarklet
"In addition, it appears that none of the ME/MC chips available to set makers are capable of processing all of the data within the original film frames needed to produce artifact-free synthesized ones. Therefore, to achieve image consistency, the LCD panel must degrade the actual frame’s image quality to match that of the synthesized frame, which is why the test pattern shows the degradation."
- Cristo
I find it funny the reason why they put 120/240hz in LCD's is for 24fps movies.. and it fails.
- Rodfather
*pops (a lot of) popcorn*
- LogEx
Alex said not too long ago that HDGuru always gives good reviews for products, so they're not a good barometer of quality.
- Cristo
Considering the rave reviews they gave to the Panasonic V10, a TV which we found lacking in picture detail AND which had problems with large field flicker (neither of which was mentioned in their review), HDGuru has less than stellar credibility, but you believe what you want. :)
- Alex Scoble
Oh and when watching movies, I turn all that motion smoothing crap off. When I watch a movie, I want it to look like a movie, not like a soap opera filmed in crappy video.
- Alex Scoble
I like to turn the contrast all the way up. It makes everything better. I like smiley faces on my graphic EQ too.
- Chris Greene
Also, my volume knob goes to 11.
- Chris Greene
My volume knob goes to 0.
- Alex Scoble
If only LCD black levels went to 0.
- LogEx
If only people wouldn't make statements based on outdated knowledge.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, you should start a competing blog: AlexGuru.com
- Cristo
Yeah, I already have one...it's http://www.friendfeed.com/itblogg... :)
- Alex Scoble
Contradiction of terms there Cristo ;)
- jcunwired
Two Women Stole Gift Cards From 9-year-old Girl, Forced To Hold Signs - http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009...
Michael W. May, Roger Benningfield, Christopher Harley and 3 other people liked this
the signs say "i stole from a 9 year-old on her birthday! don't steal or this could happen to you!". what do you think? does the punishment fit the crime????
- carlotta fancypants
from Bookmarklet
Fitting.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
On a personal note: after observing the last 18+ hours of disgusting #tcot tweets, I don't want to hear any of you ever - EVER - complaining about my use of the term "wingnut" again.
Richard ¿digame? Walker, Bill Sodeman, Kol Tregaskes and 17 other people liked this
For every tweet I saw that called for condemnation for the shootings or prayers for the victims or calls for calm and patience while the authorities sorted out what the hell was going on, there were another handful of tweets calling for the execution of anyone having anything remotely anything to do with this incident, the purging of Muslims from the military, catcalls at Obama for targeting people who bomb abortion clinics instead of hunting down "the real terrorists", and some that even I never want to think about again, let alone repeat, all the while proclaiming loudly their profound understanding on how the "terrorists" really think. Yeah, because I'm gonna take the word of people whose sum total of military experience is an all-night CALL OF DUTY marathon, followed by watching five BAND OF BROTHERS episodes in a row.
- Steven Perez
Secondly, if you're crinkling your nose and wondering whether I'm talking about you, STOP, REACH AROUND THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD AND WHACK THE "I/ME" SWITCH UNTIL IT BECOMES DISENGAGED. I'm not subscribed to any wingnuts. NONE. There are people whose views are vastly different than mine, but these people have shown at least some depth in their lives that says that they don't use events as...
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- Steven Perez
For that matter, and for future reference, if I have a problem with you, I WILL TELL YOU. Verbally speaking, I will walk right up to you and deliver a solid whack to your nose. You will not have to wonder if I am speaking about you - YOU WILL KNOW. Because that is how I am. [/rant]
- Steven Perez
Heh, I never complained about it.
- Alex Scoble
LOL -- funny, assholes don't seem to like being called assholes either. Truth hurts, I guess. I'm with you, though, bud...I'll keep callin' the wingnuts wingnuts - because people with eyes to see and ears to hear can easily separate the intelligent (and genuine) conservatives (and liberals) from the fringe-ball wingnutters.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Wingnuts....heh.
- Spencer
Hear hear!
- Rene Wirtz
I've seen two negative comments about my use of the word "wingnut" that I thought were directed at me. I never actually told the two people that they could bite me, but I think they got my point. If you don't like me, unfollow me, block me, ignore me, whatever.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
One other thing: #tcot aficionados now win an automatic block from me.
- Steven Perez
It's funny how wingnuts dislike being labeled, yet they are very quick to label others, the raving hypocrits.
- Rene Wirtz
Neocons, Christian Zionists, neo-Confederates, Kahanists, etc. are looking for any excuse to hate and commit genocide against more than a billion Muslims. Take a good look at Pamela Geller's Atlas Shrugs blog for the purest expression of this fanaticism and bigotry. "Wingnuts" is much too kind a moniker.
- Sean McBride
Wait, Sean. Let me make sure I have plenty of Pepto Bismol first.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Steven -- some of these people are so disturbing that it beggars belief. I've learned to completely detach emotionally when reading them, while examining their insane rhetoric with as cool a head as possible. But sometimes I feel like losing it -- picking up their little gifts with gloves on and tweezers sometimes isn't sufficient protection.
- Sean McBride
Geez. Wanna get depressed fast? Do a Twitter search with the hashtags "tcot" and "forthood". I wonder when these fools will start clamoring for a purge in the military for all Muslims.
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I know...Rene & I were talking about that earlier. Talk about feeding the fringe in a major way. I felt like I was in the movie Crash. WHY did his name have to be Malik Hassan?! *sigh*
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
You know it will happen ...
- Rene Wirtz
tcot, The Crazies on Twitter? Pffftt, what did you expect?
- jcunwired
From the raving neocons? Certainly not intelligence.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I made the mistake of popping those terms into Seesmic Desktop. Never making that mistake again. I can't decide who pisses them off more: the shooter, Muslims, or Fox News for not naming the shooter immediately.
- Steven Perez
Oh, and Hasan was a psychiatrist. Wanna bet that fringers will say he was trying to brainwash soldiers into turning into terrorists.
- Rene Wirtz
The second I saw the suspect's name, I cringed for the Muslim world. :((((
- rowlikeagirl, hecho en eu
Yeah, I'd almost think it was a setup just so that people WOULD cry terrorist Muslim....
- Her Lindsay-ness
I don't know why the nature of the gunman's name or his religion would matter. The stress of military service can crack anyone. There have even other incidents, even at Fort Hood, where the shooters religion or ethnicity made no bearing on the outcome. It's a shame people are so hell bent on religious persecution than being rational about this. Regardless, at the end of the day, my thoughts and concerns are with those who are recently bereaved.
- Mo Kargas
+a bajillion Mo Kargas.
- Maxamad (Amazigh)
Indeed Mo...I agree with you on the count of the victims' families.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I think this one is my "favorite": "RT @FreedomRing: RT @SwiftRead: Don't insult my intellig. #FortHood: #Hassan anti-USA #Muslim + wntd 2 end war & attackd rdy 2 deploy #tcot" http://twitter.com/kimclif... I'm not even sure what the heck it means, other than someone is angry.
- Steven Perez
tcot has been a cesspool for over a year. it is a tag you want to filter, not read. horrid stuff.
- Karoli
Judging from what I have seen today, I wholeheartedly agree. If I ever needed a standing definition of a self-fulfilling prophecy, these wingnuts fit the bill.
- Steven Perez
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