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I love http://www.feedly.com -- it is how I read my Google Reader feeds now. Requires Firefox, but if you have it very nice headline display

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How do you consume RSS on your iPhone? - Mike Bracco

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Mike: I use NetNewsWire, personally. - John Fox

Mike: FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

ByLine - syncs with Google Reader - Brian Roy

John: me too, I use NNW on Mac and iPhone. - Mike Bracco

I used this a while back... it sure has come a long way. - Evan Travers

Robert: I never would have thought of using Friendfeed as an all purpose RSS reader. Don't know why it never occured to me. - John Fox

Scoble: I assume you just mean that you follow the stream of info here - do you use the FF imaginary friend feature to add feeds? - Mike Bracco

Mike: I follow 25,000 people and their RSS feeds here. - Robert Scoble

Feels like I lose control when I use Feedly though its a very beautiful interface to GReader. - Kamath (नमः)

Firefox feels somewhat slow after Safari 4 - jess

Scoble: Gotcha...you probably have enough "real" friends that you do not need to create "imaginary" ones :) - Mike Bracco

Brian Roy: ByLine is amazing, I use it to read feeds on my iPhone every day. They pissed me off when they changed to that UGLY icon for a while, but finally they release what we have now, which is very nice. - John Reynolds

i love feedly too - andy brudtkuhl

Feedly.com is best RSS reader for ease of use and readability without question - Jonathan Evans from Friend Deck

Fun that Feedly's founder is here too: http://friendfeed.com/edwk - Robert Scoble

Feedly.com is best RSS reader for ease of use and readability without question - Jonathan Evans from Friend Deck

thanks for sharing, I use "times" but it's a bit "memory" heavy : ) this one could be next! - ledretch

I have to create *some* imaginary friends since some people on my Twitter don't have a FF account yet. I keep begging them, though. - John Fox

Robert Scoble: I'm surprised you still even use the feeds in a reader environment since you subscribe to so much here on FF. What kind of feeds and how many, do you still read in GoogleReader and why? - John Reynolds

I started using feedly again recently. I love the interface. - Spirit 2.0

Josh: here in friendfeed there's just a lot of noise sometimes. Blogs tend to me more thought out than most of the things people import here, which can include Tweets, short items, upcoming events, etc. Sometimes I just want to see blogs and Feedly brings me that. Also, there are still lots of people who don't use friendfeed (although that number goes down every day, I'm getting 1,000 new followers on friendfeed a week which demonstrates that friendfeed is growing pretty quickly). - Robert Scoble

Interesting stuff... always curious as to the business model... - Buzz Bruggeman

Thanks robert! @buzz: more on the business model very soon. Stay tuned. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Awesome find, also going to use it as my start page. - Chris Lang

Requires FireFox?! No thanks, let me know when there's a Chrome version. - Martin Johnson

Robert: I thought you were in the FriendFeed can replace Google Reader camp, which made me question the way I was using FF. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one that feels FF isn't the best place for blog aggregation and that blog aggregation is still valuable. Too bad I've switched back to Safari for now. - Chip Ramsey

I liked Feedly, but FireFox not so much, compared to Safari. Unfortunate that they have to tie it to a browser. - Oliver Bouchard

I've been enjoying http://feedafever.com/ in Safari (both desktop and iPhone versions). Firefox is far too greedy with memory. - Jason Wehmhoener

Waiting for a chrome version, once that comes out, I am switching to chrome full time. - Russ Jackson

Agree: Need a chrome version. - Ron Hudson

I've mostly bailed on Google Reader altogether: http://bit.ly/N7JTa - Mark Czerniec

Chip: keep in mind I haven't used Google Reader or Feedly in weeks. FriendFeed actually brings me most of the good stuff I see in my Google Reader feed. But if there's a reason you need to use feeds still, Feedly is very nice. - Robert Scoble

I'll give it a try, I'm just against adding Firefox plugins as my main browser now a days is Chrome - Jorge Escobar

Thanks Robert. Installing now. - Mark Davidson

Quick question: when I read an item on feedly, is it flag as read on Google Reader? - Jorge Escobar

Love the interface - Henry Liu

@Jorge. Yes. When you read an article in feedly, it is marked as read in Google Reader. When you share an article in feedly (thumbs up or share with note icon), it will be shared in Google Reader. Finally, when you save an article for later in feedly, it will be starred in Google Reader. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Thanks Edwin. I have to say, I got a lot of errors using the plugin, mainly authentication. I logged out and logged in several times, but every time I click on a story I got an error message. - Jorge Escobar

I wonder if these errors are because of the 'Scoble Effect' http://bit.ly/TJ5JD - Jorge Escobar

just installed it. Nice headline display, but I still like paging through with j and k keyboard shortcuts - Bill Kinney

Feedly appears to have grown up since I played with it about a year ago. I may try it again but Firefox has really lost my love as of late compared to Chrome. When Firefox only crashes individual Tabs in separate memory spaces (which is rumored to happen), then I may love my Mozilla tool once again. Seems like I'm not the only one who feels the same. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

manielse: I agree. I love Chrome and wish Feedly worked in it. - Robert Scoble

@bill: feedly supports most of the keyboard shortcuts of Google Reader (j, k, s, n, p, etc..). Click ? in feedly to get the complete list. @jorge: yes for about 10 minutes, the registration and authentication service had their heads under the water. Should be back to normal now. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Edwin: awesome! I hadn't much time to play with it, but that is very cool Thanks for the tip. - Bill Kinney

Started using Feedly again when I got comfortable with Firefox 3.5. Sure is pleasant to browse, I agree. - Chris Baskind

I've tried Feedly a couple times but I just can't use the "headlines" interface. I like still plugging through Google Reader for what info I still having coming through that channel. - Tony

@tony: me to. i like to hammer 'j' untill i see stuff i like. it's nice and single-tasky. feedly makes my brain want to read everything at once - Chris Bingham

So do I. It's becoming my only start-up page. It's Google Reader for lazy people (I'm one..) - Martin Añazco

ooh, hammering j also works pretty nice in feedly! i'm sold - Chris Bingham

@Edwin looks like it's working now. I'll give it a spin in the next 2 days and see if I get the hang of it. I have to say the UI is refreshing! - Jorge Escobar

might take a little getting used to, but the presentation of your feeds is really nice.. - Robert de Castro

I just gave feedly a try but must say that it doesn't offer many benefits over Google Reader. Some of the things I like include the 'Karma' feature, the ability to aggregate articles related to Twitter's hot topics, and of course the magazine look. However, I find the interface somewhat clumsy in that how articles are marked as read is somewhat confusing. Their preferences page should... more... - Angus Burton

Ah, I love feedly too been using for 6 months .. hey, wait a minute, you still read feeds in your reader? - Beth Kanter

I agree with Angus. I prefer Google Reader's simplicity. - Curt Mercadante

I am an experienced user of both Google Reader and Feedly, with subscriptions to over 1,000 feeds, and have discovered that I can cover much more ground more quickly and more easily with Feedly than with Google Reader. But Feedly takes some investment of time and effort to learn -- there is much more to it than meets the eye at first glance. Its full value isn't apparent until you dig into the full feature set. - Sean McBride

What Bryan at the top said. FireFox? That dog don't hunt on this box. You gotta Make the apps work in any browser, or I (for one) am not likely to play with them. Safari, Firefox, Chrome, IE, and Opera. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

You mean you've said goodbye to Google Reader? - Diego Barros 

is feedly working ? here is not ! : / - Rocky

@rocky. it should work. What is the error you are running into? Can you please open a bug on http://www.getsatisfaction.com/feedly and I will track it down - Edwin Khodabakchian

I love Feedly. I don't read a lot of RSS feeds, but the ones I do are very diversified, and I think Feedly organizes well. I like the magazine feel to it, and I really like the fact that I can mark a feed read, but save feeds I like to really read or refer to, when I have more time. - Bonnie Foster

finally, a way to look at RSS feeds that's welcoming...you know, like a normal website :-) - Julian Seery Gude

One of many Feedly power features: you're subscribed to hundreds of feeds. You want to jump to a particular feed without navigating lists of feeds. Start typing the name of the feed in the Feedly incremental search box, and bingo: there's the feed, ready to click through to. Example: typing "lif" -- three characters -- brings up Lifehacker. Try doing that in Google Reader. - Sean McBride

LOL: now I don't want to read my Google Reader feeds so that I accumulate enough to see them tomorrow on Feedly... - Jorge Escobar

Experimented some more with it tonight. I had recently cut a whole bunch of feeds out of Reader because it was getting to be too much. Wish I hadn't now, feedly bubbles things to the surface quite nicely (and better than GReader's own Auto sort feature, IMO). Friendfeed integration is pretty killer too. - Bill Kinney

for feedly users - the topic search is amazing i.e. http://www.feedly.com/home#tr... - michael sean wright

Confirmed that Feedly is still not for me. Just rather see an enhanced, smarter GReader with Filters, User Behavior Ranking (not Social Ranking but knows others what this) and Topic groupings (auto hide articles that appear to be duplicates). - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

i'll try it for a few days, i think i like it now, it seems a lo more organized and, most important, it brings discussion and conversation right into the feed reading, and that is a feature i was looking for! - Ivy /composmentis from email

love feedly! It's the Only way I use Google reader :) it's my start page baby HA! - Aline Ohannessian

I don't even know where to start with the reasons I love Feedly. It's an indispensable part of any good information filtering/data gathering tool set. - Mike Elliott

I began to use Feedly five days ago, after three years of use of Google Reader, and certainly i will not turn back. Fantastic experience! - Stalkk.ed

I love Feedly too! I started using it a few months ago based on some recommendations here at FF. It was as much an upgrade to me as going from my 4 year old Treo to the I-phone. HUGE. - Kelly W.

I will have to give this a try. Thanks for sharing. - Rocque

I tried it today... and yes, looks really great and beautiful, now I'll do a daily test... yes, thanks for sharing! - Arne Krueger

How does it look on mobile? - Mathew A. Koeneker

I can't get it to mark articles as read without clicking on the X. I usually go through google reader hammering 'j'. I tried that in feedly, and have also tried to 'm' shortcut and neither will mark articles as read. What am I missing? - Brian Newman

Brian: j, j, j should mark articles as read (titles turning black instead of blue). If you are seeing a different behavior, then it must be a bug. Could you please open an issue on http://www.getsatisfaction.com/feedly with any potential error message being printed in the firefox error console when you click on j? Thanks. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Edwin - Sure thing! Thanks for the quick response. - Brian Newman

I noticed a lot of Google Chrome fans yesterday in this thread. Not Feedly but a good tool to look at. If you are using 3.0.189.0+ (currently Dev Build), I'd highly recommend you checking out TPGoogleReader (version 0.3) http://tpreal.dcmembers.com/TPGoogl... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Just installed, pretty nice - Che Hodgins

Feedly is supreme. Looking forward to the iphone version! - John O'Day

I find it a bit busy still, but the mini toolbar is great - Yant

I love it too. I use it for my start page and that's how I read my news each day. Would be nice to see it for other browsers. - Quasar

I think Feedly is a superb product that goes beyond being a simple RSS reader. I wrote some of my thoughts here http://bit.ly/ysGFT. Once again, thanks Robert for recommending good stuff like this. - Jorge Escobar

Yup. Feedly is great and I especially like the mini toolbar, makes sharing stuff on Twitter a breeze! - Jorge Barba

Robert Scoble

I am tracking people on Twitter's SUL like @timoreilly. They can't get people to follow them on Facebook or FriendFeed. Here's analysis:

June 22 - Comment - Like - Share

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Tim has 617,000 followers on Twitter -- almost all gained because he is on the suggested user list. But he only has 10,000 followers on FriendFeed. TechCrunch has almost the same pattern. Why is this? - Robert Scoble

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They can't get people to follow them because the people who added them are not really listening and impressionable. - Louis Gray

You have to be engaged and interactive to have influence. - Louis Gray

It's what I was hinting at this morning. Most of the users on Twitter don't actually take action or DO anything. They aren't followers. They aren't listening. They aren't engaged. So these audiences can't be transfered anywhere else. - Robert Scoble

Twitter is Revolution! Yay Twitter! - Steven E. Streight

This is Twitter's true lock in. - Robert Scoble

Could it also be that they never talk about Friendfeed or Facebook while on Twitter and therefore no one knows that they're actually here? - Kenton

Yeah, Twitter has turned into more micro-rss for me versus conversational. - Tony

Why would any freedom loving person NOT have a green avatar? - Steven E. Streight

617,000, but how many of those are active users? I'd imagine 50% or more are one time users, dead accounts - sean percival

It's all about narcissism for most people unfortunately. - Steven E. Streight

It's impossible for anybody to have 617,000 followers on Friendfeed, because that's about double the active network size. ;) - Shéa Bennett

LOL - Steven E. Streight

Shea: very funny! - Robert Scoble

Kenton, That's it for me. I follow Tim on Twitter, actually find him very engaged there, but didn't automatically assume he was on FB and FF. Now I will - Francine Hardaway

I hate FaceBook - Steven E. Streight

also the chance of someone responding on a sul is higher on friendfeed that is on twitter - Kashif Khan

Shea: the problem with your thesis is that it holds true on Facebook. I have more fans there than TechCrunch does. - Robert Scoble

Also, if you only ever re-tweet instead of putting up original content your followers are going to tend to be more passive. - Kenton

how about them dopey Positive Affirmation tweeters? Ugh! - Steven E. Streight

If I want inspirational quotes, I'll open a Bible thank you. - Steven E. Streight

Like prob all of you I am on numerous social websites, twitter is not great at all unless you like the constant stream of tweet torrents - it is quick to interact with, that's why I use it the most right now. - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Kenton: that's true too, but TechCrunch puts up original content and he has fewer followers on Facebook than I do (and I post almost NOTHING on Facebook). - Robert Scoble

This is the very basic definition of following, you don't act, you follow. If you want to engage people, you need a community, which twitter can help you to manage but won't do for you. @loic can make many people do something, he has influence, because he built a community, not because he has followers. - Jonathan Belgourari

Jonathan: yup and Guy Kawasaki has a lot more influence than I do and he neither is on Twitter's SUL and he doesn't even write all his own Tweets (he admits he has a team writing them). - Robert Scoble

twitter is also great to find out about people in a quick way, you otherwise wold never engage with. the next step blog, friendfeed, fb or email is just as easy. - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

if you have a lot of followers interaction is very limited. You miss out on so much when you hit the refresh page when you have followers . Im guessing after many attempts of trying to communicate and not receiving anything back ppl quit - Kashif Khan

Jonathan: I call that a "reader" or a "consumer" then, not a follower. Followers do what you ask them to do. :-) - Robert Scoble

Went and looked for him on FB. Not even a photo? Does he hang out there? - Francine Hardaway

on a much smaller scale I've looked at overlaps between my twitter (3000) fb (900) ff (800); there seems to be about 300 people who are common to all three, the rest choose where and how to interact with me. I tend to think of the 300 as my "digital dunbar number". - JP Rangaswami

Kashif: I interact here with almost everyone and I have 42,000 followers here. - Robert Scoble

good point Robert, I don't really consider Facebook a place to go for information like that so I had only really considered Friendfeed. - Kenton

Robert Scoble you are insane that does not count:) - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Twitter is a different medium to the others, Robert. It's a lot less of a commitment to follow somebody on that network. FF has a relatively tiny user base so a comparison there is apples and oranges. Facebook for the majority is still less about following *anybody* and more about following people you know and trust. Why? Because you're giving away a lot of yourself each time you add... more... - Shéa Bennett

Alex: heheh. I'm not the only insane one. - Robert Scoble

but where is interacting easier , twitter or friendfeed ? - Kashif Khan

haha... - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Shea: the truth about Twitter is that many people check it out for a few minutes and then never return to the service. Or if they do return, they do so very sporadically. Over here or on Facebook the audiences are much more engaged. - Robert Scoble

I agree with Louis. you have to interact and participate. - Johnny from BuddyFeed

imagine having to track this same conversation using twitters web interface and not having tweetdeck or seismic to help you out - Kashif Khan

Robert: I keep hearing that but I'm very engaged with my network. And I regularly remove the people who I feel don't make any kind of an effort. It's all about keeping things relative. - Shéa Bennett

I am still scared to contact anybody on Facebook, because I don't know if the want to stay private/real friends, or if they like me joining their conversation = I never send friend requests - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Shea: the other truth about the Suggested User List is these are not organic followers. They are people who opened an account and clicked "add all the suggested users." Before Tim and Mashable and TechCrunch were added to that list I had more followers on Twitter. So did Leo Laporte. So did Guy Kawasaki. So, most of those newer followers that Tim and Mike got by being on the SUL aren't strong followers. That's why they aren't very engaged. - Robert Scoble

I agree re: Twitter - they check it out and then leave - the follow and forget methodology. I guess the real measure of how interactive his followers are would be to request that they do something (click a link, etc.) In reality, if he got 1/10 of 1% to do anything, I'd be impressed. - Jeff Pomeroy

You also have to remember that the majority of FB's 200 million users are non-techy people, many of whom see FB *as* the internet, not just a product of it. I think Twitter's audience is maturer (in terms of average age, as well as content) and less interesting in bells and whistles (videos, music etc). - Shéa Bennett

Jeff: what got Twitter to be so cool is engagedment USED to be a lot higher than 1/10th of 1% for everyone. Now it has gone down. - Robert Scoble

I have no disagreement at all about the SUL. I've written several articles about it on Twittercism. It needs to be scrapped or totally revamped. And yeah, a lot of the followers folk get from being on the SUL are very casual users, assuming they return at all. - Shéa Bennett

Shea: I totally disagree with that thesis. I did a survey of 600 Web innovators, influencers, and press. About 85% are on all three social networks (Twitter, Friendfeed, Facebook). And many of those are participating more on Facebook than on Twitter lately. Why is that? - Robert Scoble

Robert, my 'suggested user list' was full of esoteric treehuggers and feelgood-psychos. I am a software architect and astrophysics hugger instead. Facebook hooks me up with really strange algorithms - meh.. - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

"you reached level 14 in #spymaster" - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

:) - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Alex: I blocked spymaster. :-) - Robert Scoble

I would too, like many other things, but than I want diversity. I want a lot of different people and opinions to challenge my thinking. - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Maybe they are participating on Facebook more because they can truly control who sees what when they have their discussions. Twitter allows a lot of 'noise' to occur from unknown followers when these people are trying to communicate amongst themselves. Maybe Facebook or Friendfeed is just the better medium for those types of interactions. - Jeff Pomeroy

Robert: Which thesis? Blasted Friendfeed and its lack of threaded comments. ;) - Shéa Bennett

even on FB its easier to track conversations - Kashif Khan

Jeff, I agree. And I also think 'older people are more comfortable with FB. The 'older folks' on twitter are broadcasting their wisdoms and not interacting - most of them... - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

great listening to you guys - friendfeed proves something right here;) see ya. i'm out... - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

As for why your list are involved more on FB than Twitter, I have no idea. But 600 from either network is still a very small sample. I'm confused how these folk are actually "participating" on FB, too. Specifically, what does that word mean on that network? What do they do? My experience is that over half of my followers go ballistic if I update my status on FB more than about 15-20 times per day. And I'm *very* selective to make sure it's only the good stuff. :) - Shéa Bennett

It is personality vs brand. You Robert, Jason Calacanis, Leo Lapporte, are personalities before brand. We talk to you as real people. O'riley is brand before personality. We are not used to talking back to a brand unless we're miffed about something. It is just not normal. For instance today when you asked my question at the #hpreveal thing it cought them off guard and totally blew me... more... - Ron Hudson

Ron: good point. The real answer is that Twitter totally messed with the system by choosing its own "stars" instead of letting the real stars organically bubble up to the top. Since O'Reilly and Arrington are "chosen stars" their followers aren't strong followers like the ones that they got organically. Even Arrington admits this in analysis. - Robert Scoble

I totally agree with Ron about that. That's what I love about FF and Twitter - it's the first time that we've had anything like a level playing field for discourse. And the ones who don't engage now stand out like sore thumbs. - Shéa Bennett

I always love it when somebody has 40,000 followers but is following 40 people. What a waste. Why even engage? You, Robert have almost as many followers as followees. - Curt Mercadante

for me it seems that given his lopsided ratio, it gives the impression that he is not truly interactive but rather broadcasting and waiting for feedback. - Eran Even-Kesef

An engaged audience is built slowly, not quickly - Jesse Stay

So now when a new user gets on Twitter they see the same reinforced message from everywhere else. "These are people/brands you should LISTEN to" It is not "These are people to get to know and have conversation with" - Ron Hudson

Robert, wouldn't the organic SUL just be the top 100 most-followed? Which even before the SUL got going wasn't exactly a bastion of quality. All Twitter needs to do is mix things up - when I sign up (or check the SUL at any time), the service should give me X of its own recommendations, and the same amount that are tailored to me by my own interests. Of course, for this to really work... more... - Shéa Bennett

Curt: lots of people use these things for broadcasting. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I do prefer to follow people who engage. - Robert Scoble

Hey Louis Gray are you anti-SUL like many of us in this thread? - Mark

I followed @timoreilly for a while on twitter, but didn't find him interesting enough to keep following. It's true that @GuyKawasaki doesn't write all his own tweets, but I like them and look forward to them (if one of his ladies have written the tweet they will have their initials at the end of it.) I follow you, Robert, because I like your tweets too. I will follow anyone who follows... more... - Andrew Jordan

Shea: I can see about 100 ways to build a useful SUL. The current SUL just serves @ev and @biz 's own egos and purposes. - Robert Scoble

Mark: just remember that Twitter has signaled to the world that anyone who begs to be on, or complains about the SUL will never get onto it. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I agree. Between us, if they added you overnight, would you ask to be removed? I suspect you would, and I know at least one other has. - Shéa Bennett

Robert: Why do you think you are not on the Twitter SUL? iJustine was on it (til she was removed) - yet no Scobleizer - It makes zero sense. - Jim Connolly

Shea: yes, I will ask to be removed. I know one person who removed himself too. (Jay Rosen, journalism professor). Why would I ask to be removed? Because it's a huge gift and one that I would feel I need to disclose every time I talk about Twitter. Look at how many times I'm asked whether I'm paid by FriendFeed. Well, everyone on the Suggested User List is being paid by Twitter. - Robert Scoble

This feels like irc without the useful tools like tab-auto-complete. I keep wanting to ssh out and open irssi. . . - Ron Hudson

Aw man, I miss IRC. - Jason Nunnelley

There's a group of people I follow on twitter not to be part of their conversation but to inform conversations I have with people I know. My friends/acquaintances don't use friendfeed so I have little use for it. Facebook I leave for friends/family and twitter/web forums are for acquaintances. - Jonathan

Jim: three reasons I have never been on Twitter's Suggested User List: 1. Technically I was difficult to put on the list before they got rid of the @ reply functionality (I was one of the 3% who turned that feature on). 2. I talk about FriendFeed all the time (I wouldn't add someone who talked about a competitor all the time to my service either). 3. I have had days when I'm too noisy... more... - Robert Scoble

Does anyone know or have links to comments made by people on the SUL about the issue? - Mark

Robert: Thats a very honest and almost certainly accurate answer. - Jim Connolly

Mark: I've had some contact with @adventuregirl. - Shéa Bennett

There is a risk here of course regarding complaining about the SUL that one could easily be accused of sour grapes; that is, along the lines of, "How did THEY get on there, and not me?" Although I also suspect that the majority (the masses, if you will) on Twitter don't really care at all about things like the SUL, and are fairly blasé to the criticisms about it. I sincerely believe... more... - Shéa Bennett

Mark: honestly I've been following the SUL and other than when Veronica ripped me a new one for asking whether there was some sort of corruption to get on the list (big brands get on the list, for instance, and this list is totally corruptible because it is NOT a meritocracy) I can't remember ever hearing someone on the SUL discussing it in public. They know better because they are being gifted hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of followers and they don't want to be removed. - Robert Scoble

Mark: It's REALLY hard getting answers from people like Veronica Belmont or Pete Cashmore. They are both really cool people, but neither have replied to anything I have asked them, in relation to their SUL places. It's like they have been gagged. - Jim Connolly

Mark: It's here http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009... - Jim Connolly

Shea: most people will not care, that's right, until they figure out they are peasants in a royalty system. Then they will seek out systems that are meritocracies. The tide is already moving. - Robert Scoble

Robert: To your earlier point re: Tim O'Reilly - if the SUL system is broken and really just a method whereby new twitter users follow & forget, are these people truly "being gifted hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of followers"? - Jeff Pomeroy

I'm sure most of them don't wanna look a gift horse in the mouth. Is that the right metaphor? hehe - Mark

Hmm, I'm not sure Robert. Nobody seemed to leave FB when they were at risk of being sold out - the numbers just went up and up. I think the people who truly fight for this stuff are always in a real minority - they seem more prevalent because they're loud! :) I think most people drift away from social networks when they seem to have run their course, like MySpace. - Shéa Bennett

Jeff: yes, they are because they are now owning the top of lists at http://www.wefollow.com and other places. Also they are getting PR on TV shows worth many thousands of dollars (journalists love picking sources with huge numbers after their names). Finally: SOME of these followers DO engage. - Robert Scoble

Maybe Tim is too focused? he is not a chit chat BS guy enough to interest large amounts of people... Focus gives value but value that is high and very specific to certain (few) people. As you hinted Robert, value is not a matter of # of followers but of real impact /traction. People will listen and act more upon what is said on FF. FF is more value than traffic. - Harscoat

Maybe if a few dozen of us from this thread @reply the big players asking for a statement on their placw on SUL they will respond? - Mark

Scoble: I'm not sure they/we will seek out meritocracies. Like I said before it is not expected. I can go to crackberry forums or IRC if I want to be respected in a niche I think Facebook is more likely to draw people who want to be heard by their peers, because generally it is people you already have an established hierarchy of popularity with. It's high-school all over again. We tend to hang with our group and don't expect to be heard in others. - Ron Hudson

Don't get me wrong - folk will put their name on lists, and that kind of non-committal stuff. But when it comes to the crunch and, you know, actually quitting over change, they rarely do. - Shéa Bennett

Jeff: Yes they are, because most of them are selling some kind of advertising on their sites / blogs / podcasts etc. These are often sold on volume of eyeballs, and these will have increased by tens of thousands of percent after gaining all those Twitter followers. - Jim Connolly

"you did receive a gift. Advertising is sold by 1,000 viewers. Ask Ryan how much 1,000 people are worth. You did NOT earn that gift by any objective measure." - Rob Scoble, Feb 2009 - Mark

Mark: Unlikely. I think Robert is right - far too much to lose. Man, if they added me to the list, this time next week I'd be a millionaire! ;) - Shéa Bennett

Calacanis was widely quoted as saying a slot on the SUL was worth $250,000 US. - Jim Connolly

Robert: keep those threads coming, I get to follow good people on real-time, it's better than any Twitter SUL :) - Nir Ben Yona

Harscoat: I don't disagree a bit. Ron: good point about people not seeking out meritocracies. It does pollute the community, though, and people do figure that out eventually. If anything Facebook went the other way by limiting EVERYONE to 5,000. That brings celebrities down to everyone else's level, which builds good feelings and keeps marketers out. - Robert Scoble

It seems like the tech celebrity all seems to treat these systems the same, as places where they can acquire a mass following. I view myself as an average everday user of these systems, and view all three differently. And as they evolve, they all have different and divergent uses for me. It's not apples to apples... (also, tiring of SUL) - Bill Kinney

Jim: It's worth far more than that. Mashable is close to 1 million followers. The account tweets about 15-20 times per day, most back to their own site. That network size is worth millions. TC isn't far behind, and is already saying Twitter is about 10% of their traffic. Jason's semi-serious offer was probably high at the time, but I think a spot on that list now over 12 months is worth easily a million bucks to a brand or power-blog. - Shéa Bennett

Bill: yup. Today I was talking with Alexander. He says that people will continue seeking out "smaller" spaces. My wife likes Facebook better than FriendFeed or Twitter for that reason: she feels it's the place where she can talk with just her circle of friends. - Robert Scoble

tidbit of info: spoke to someone last night (who shall remain nameless) that said they went up by >10k followers per day when they were put on the SUL. They still consider that their real follower numbers are closer to their organic growth rate. - Bill Sanders

I hope all the big players move to FF soon so I can stop visiting twitter.com altogether. - Mark

I mean, $1/user that you can hit 15-20 times per day, 365 days a year, and if they unfollow, you're going to get another 40-50,000/week because you're on the SUL? I cannot believe Twitter doesn't monetize this feature. - Shéa Bennett

Shea: I think you are probably right - the numbers are insane and the SUL system is totally corrupt. - Jim Connolly

Robert, saying that people like me "can't build a following on Friendfeed" is silly. There are only so many networks that you can put time into. For whatever reason, I've chosen Twitter. You've chosen FriendFeed. The fact that I have 10,000 followers on FriendFeed is good news, given that I don't spend time here. Heck, I had 5,000 on Twitter when I started paying attention and using the service. - Tim O'Reilly

Thanks for coming Tim, do you agree with Robert that your SUL status is a "gift" and one in which makes it difficult for you to report on twitter honestly? - Mark

And for what it's worth, the SUL isn't very useful except for bragging rights. I had about 60K twitter followers when I went on the SUL; my peak click through-rate has perhaps doubled now that I have 10 times as many. Organic followers are what matters, except, as I say, for the media credibility that you get from people who don't know any better. - Tim O'Reilly

After all, the SUL is giving you lots of clicks, and clicks = page views and page views = dollars? - Mark

Tim: this post isn't only about you. But you must admit that you had fewer followers on Twitter than I did before you got added to the Suggested User List. You are getting gifted hundreds of thousands of followers per month. They aren't engaged. They won't do what you ask them to. Have you studied the hit rates the things you retweet are getting before and after getting on teh SUL? - Robert Scoble

Tim: You deserve to be on the SUL, but many of your SUL buddies don't. It really stinks, the way some of those names were added, and people like Leo Laporte and Scoble were blanked. - Jim Connolly

Totally, I only open up my facebook to those I have established relationship with - my choice to do so. I publish and share things of a more intimate nature there that I won't share on other services where my profile is more public. Facebook works quite well for that. I almost laugh at those that say that facebook has to match what twitter is doing or face extinction (and I've heard various arguments to that effect), that the "walled garden" will be their downfall eventually. I don't agree. - Bill Kinney

Mark - being on the Twitter SUL has absolutely no influence on what I do or do not report about Twitter. - Tim O'Reilly

Ahh, I see you have studied the hit rates and your observations match mine. These aren't "real" followers and they aren't engaged. Twitter did that to remove people they don't like from the top of the leaderboards (like Calacanis, Laporte, and me). - Robert Scoble

Thanks, Tim x - Mark

Is this about numbers (i.e. ratings and money) or is this about engagement? - SawyerTraining, Inc.

Incidentally, was iJustine removed from the SUL for something she said? Just wondering. I'd be interested to see if somebody on that list could be very critical about Twitter and stay on it. - Shéa Bennett

Tim is unsurprisingly savvy on the matter: "my peak click through-rate has perhaps doubled now that I have 10 times as many. Organic followers are what matters, except, as I say, for the media credibility that you get from people who don't know any better." In other words, organic followers are worth 10x more clicks/$$ than SUL followers. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Robert, did you recently share a Whisky with @Ev? What are the twitter bosses saying about the SUL and yoru complaints? - Mark

Tim: how do we know that, though? If you paid me hundreds of thousands of dollars per year I would need to disclose that to my audience and it would be very tough not to be influenced by that money you're paying me. Twitter is paying you a huge sum of money in followers and yet you say it has no influence on you. - Robert Scoble

Mark: I didn't bring it up with @ev (other than to make a small joke that he was building his own celebrities with the SUL, which he nervously smiled at). Why? Because I'd rather have these discussions out in public where you can see them and know that I'm not playing "footsie" with Twitter to get onto the list. - Robert Scoble

Sure it changes Tim's experience of the service and (at the least) doubles his direct financial rewards from the service but he's presumably not working on a word of mouth contract with them. The only way to be *completely* sure there's no conflict of interest would be for oreilly.com to block/redirect all direct or indirect clickthroughs from Twitter and I'm sure we can all agree that's not feasible. - Daniel J. Pritchett

That's just like the Robert we have known for a long time... - Amit Nangare

If this is about engagement consider that for me most of my engagement is "downstream" with my followers (who are few but important to me) rather than "upstream" where I look for trends, leads, and insights. I only interact upstream on rare occasions when I feel I might have something to add (and this may not be one of those times). - SawyerTraining, Inc.

Tim: It is impossible for you to be totally unbiased regarding Twitter, surely? - Jim Connolly

I like to think that after Robert had that whisky from Ev, his life spiralled out of control, a bit like something in Michael Douglas' The Game. Three days disappeared in a blur, and when he woke up, the only working login he had left was on Plurk. ;) - Shéa Bennett

It's impossible for any business to be completely unbiased regarding media outlets that cover/enable them, Jim. The best we can hope for is full disclosure, published conduct guidelines, and ombudsmen. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Mark: also that wasn't an appropriate time socially. His wife was there, it wasn't an on the record type event, and it's not nice to be a jerk on a Saturday night. - Robert Scoble

Well I suppose twitter sends money to the SUL via followers, how is it it any different than Dell sending money to you via free laptops? - Mark

Daniel: We are talking about a 6 figure 'gift' from a company, to a group of people who write about that company. This is a really big deal. - Jim Connolly

@Shéa Bennett: Ijustine - man did that get old fast. That's what happens after 100 episodes of the same "yeah, yeah, you can ask ij" - Asgeir

Daniel: it's pretty hard to figure out that people are on the SUL. You have to have a new account and look every few days. Some people are building tracking systems to watch who is added and who is taken off (iJustine was on for a while but isn't anymore and she now is losing followers, if you watch the charts). Disclosure? People who are on this list don't see it as a gift. - Robert Scoble

Fair point, Rob x - Mark

It's simply a matter of scale, Jim. There is no realistic way for Tim to remain completely objective aside from eschewing Twitter altogether. As long as he is above board re: his dealings with Twitter that's really all that anyone can expect of him. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Mark: if I take gifts I disclose it. I'd rather have the followers the SUL gives someone than a free laptop. A laptop is only worth $2,000. Getting on the SUL is worth many many more times that. - Robert Scoble

when i said "you", i didnt mean any of you in particular with the laptops - Mark

"you" just sounds better than "one" - how english of me - Mark

Good point, Robert. Perhaps Twitter should make it super obvious that people are on the SUL. It *would* be nice if text from SUL tweeters was visually distinguishable from regular tweeters so that we could know to (not) pay attention to it as per our preferences. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

One respectfully disagrees :) - Ian Betteridge

Regarding iJustine, I'm guessing she was pulled from the SUL early May? Check the chart: http://twittercounter.com/compare... If that date correlates, that probably says all we need to know about the benefits. - Shéa Bennett

Robert - do you think all Twitter-related content published by SULers should include a boilerplate disclaimer such as "BTW I get zillions of clicks through Twitter's preferential treatment" at the top of every story? - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Daniel: at Steve Broback's Twitter Conference the Twitter employees were visibly uncomfortable talking about the SUL. It's interesting that they added a "verified" icon to my account but they aren't identifying who is on the SUL. - Robert Scoble

Whoa, Shéa - Mark

It was cool of Tim to 'almost' talk about the SUL here. The guy's a tech legend and is there on merit - I just wish the list was balanced so others who equally deserve a slot had one. - Jim Connolly

I won't argue with you there at all, Robert. I would be happy seeing disclaimers and graphics denoting SUL status. I was thinking the problem was more Twitter's than Tim's but I suppose it's both. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Daniel: yes. If the New York Times journalists were receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from a company they cover, wouldn't you expect them to disclose that? - Robert Scoble

That graphic blew my mind, Shea. Thanks! - Daniel J. Pritchett

how about twitter sul = 300.000+$/month want it? buy it. full disclosure=? - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

Are most professional journalists doing online content paid based on page views? - Mark

or is it pay per article? - Mark

Jim: I wish the list was a meritocracy and based on your actual usage and value you add to Twitter. Personally I wish we had a list a lot more like wefollow.com or alltop.com than what Twitter came up with. Mark: yes. - Robert Scoble

Robert: EXACTLY! - Jim Connolly

Mark: Journalism companies get paid by 1000 page views. That's called CPM. They then usually pay their reporters per article, or per word, or they are salaried. - Robert Scoble

One reason is FriendFeed lacks a way of linking to other users in a post. On Twitter you can @timoreilly or @TechCrunch and I'd click on them and see if they are worth following. Since you can't do that on FriendFeed I don't bother to look to see if they are worth following. - ChiliMac

Jim: I find it insulting that Oprah was added to the Suggested User List after doing only a dozen or so entries on Twitter. How did they know she would be a good Twitterer after only that few? How insulting is that to all the other people who put tons more work into the system? - Robert Scoble

I don't think this SUL thing is about numbers, it's about ego and personality. Can you live without expressing your personal believes and have PR people do your job or say what you have to say out loud on public and give up the courtesy and goodies. Why is it about personality? Example: When Scoble came to visit my country (Israel) everyone could have a talk with him directly without... more... - Nir Ben Yona

ChiliMac: funny, I found you just fine and subscribed to you here. It's a different way, though. Here you put full URLs into the message. Like "hey, everyone, follow ChiliMac here: http://friendfeed.com/chilimac " - Robert Scoble

Robert: If being on the list has negligible value as you proposed (and Tim essentially confirmed) in terms of click-throughs, are we perhaps being overly concerned with its 'benefits'? If Tim's network has gone x10 and his clicks are x2, it's likely that his gain is from a lot of people who followed him organically (i.e., normal network growth). - Shéa Bennett

Robert: The Oprah situation took the SUL issue and exposed it for what it is; a 'buddy list.' Not based on merit or value. I only heard of Twitter because of you and Leo. There are hundreds of thousands of early users who only discovered Twitter off you and Leo's mentions. How soon they forget! - Jim Connolly

Shea: perhaps we are overly concerned. But I notice that people don't often remove themselves from this list, and even when they do (like in Jay Rosen's case) it's only after really thinking through the ethical responsibility of taking a huge gift from a corporation that they potentially cover. - Robert Scoble

Jim: exactly. I really hate it when companies love you when they are getting started because they need a few evangelistic users (ICQ started with only 40 users, so that's all you really need) but then they stab you in the back once they don't need you anymore. That's why more than a few bloggers now ask for stock or fees to cover their companies. Me? I will continue being a sucker for an entrepreneur with a great product or service. - Robert Scoble

I'd prefer an tiny audience that listened and commented, than a huge audience that ignored me - Mark Essel

value is the way and not arbitrary will from kings (ev and biz eg)... so this thread opens one's eyes to the not so fair and ego driven aspect of twitter as a cy ( I still remember @ev with the Trump daughter in front of the white house ;) - SUL = buddy list of @ev and @biz... liked Jim suggestion - Harscoat

I agree about Oprah but Twitter wants names on there - people that the 180 million Facebook users they don't have on Twitter right now will recognise. Everybody knows Oprah. It isn't about being a 'good Twitterer' (which is of course a relative term - one man's P. Diddy is another man's Jack Schofield) - it's about new users going, "Hey, I know this person." and that validates the... more... - Shéa Bennett

I wish Twitter wold make it easier to connect with people that has same interests. wefollow is on the right track, but people add themselves to categories they don't belong in. The one with most follower under #photo has, as far as I can tell, never written anything about photos, or photo related news - Asgeir

Engagement has value, but I understand most folks just like to read. I'm fine with that but engagement helps me improve my perspective while blogging - Mark Essel

social networks is about money not about us or social or socialism;) which brings me back to the point: the sul list is pure advertising and should be treated as that. Put a logo next to it: Advertisement: we recommend these ppl - done. 'We' will find each other anyways and the big old economy corps will always bully Robert or Leo out of their way:( - Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic

there are the "cooperators" and "free riders/defectors" in life (in evo psy terms) - Robert is a cooperator (interested in the overall value for the group rather than his own personal interest)! pointing at entrepreneurs with great product and services for the community. Do not change - Harscoat

Twitter is really just a broadcast medium, you can be influential and be on the SUL, but it's more likely you just have a bunch of people checking out the service once and never looking again. FF allows you to build value and relationships around conversations. Take this very thread. Which is more monetizable in the long run? I think twitter will just become another protocol, FF provides a far more valuable service. But that's just my opinion really, and it all depends on how YOU define "useful" - John

I try to participate, but I have anywhere from 60 to 80 hours of work a week, and adding Twitter and FF to the list increased my hours. So I can't always participate even though I want to. - RobinDotNet

Robert, I'm intrigued by your success and focus on this subject. I wonder, how do you think a group fairs compared to a single personality? At the moment, you're the king of social media in my opinion because of your engagement. The attention you command is ten fold the value of Ashton's million plus drive-by fans. But, could 10 top-notch social folks stuck to a brand (like Mashable's core Twitter brand) out-perform a single guy's personal touch? [Sorry, I did go a bit OT] - Jason Nunnelley

The truth is the SUL list on Twitter falsely inflates everyone numbers who are on it, I suspect if Tim O'Reilly wasn't on the list his numbers percentage wise would be just about the same whether we are talking Twitter or FF. I also think that since FF doesn't have an auto follow method, like twitter, their is more thought put into who someone is going to follow. - Kim Landwehr

Kim: That's true, but it's not just a question of auto-follow. One, Facebook doesn't allow one-way following - you have to be 'friends'. Two, for most people, letting somebody friend them on FB is a fairly big deal as that person then has access to a lot of your life (personal details, photos, etc - it AMAZES me how many people put their cellphone number on Facebook, and then just... more... - Shéa Bennett

I agree SUL is billboard advertising. Essel-i support that 'just like to read' is fine for some. That's how I participate with Wikipedia and I can see some on twitter will simply be there looking for new eddies in the river of news. FriendFeed and Facebook lead for those of us wanting greater depth: No matter if you are a platform or a "personality" how is quality engagement promoted... more... - Lane Rapp

Jason: I am often at a disadvantage competing against brands with many people employed like TechCrunch and Mashable. What was interesting was that I (and others like Leo Laporte, Calacanis, Kawasaki, et al) was able to compete before the SUL propelled them above me and into a different league. At least on Twitter. Everywhere else I'm still kicking their behinds. Which is worth studying,... more... - Robert Scoble

I am not on the Twitter SUL. I have 15,000 on Twitter and 2,700 on FF. Could it be that there are fewer peeps on FF? - Beth Kanter

Beth: that's a pretty common ratio, but doesn't match anyone's who is on the SUL. But, you miss my point. On Facebook (which has far far far more people than Twitter) TechCrunch has far fewer fans than I do but on Twitter he has far more, all artificially gained. If TechCrunch were smart he'd have those people also follow his fan page on Facebook. - Robert Scoble

But you bring up an interesting point, Beth, for another thread. Why aren't your followers good followers of yours? I imagine you've told them about friendfeed. Why don't your followers listen to you? I thought it was just me. - Robert Scoble

I just don't use facebook at all like i do FriendFeed or Twitter. - Geoff Schultz

What about the shear time to keep up with the topics of the day? For me twitter is all about reading quick short headlines, getting a pulse on what's going on, and then making a decision on what topics are important enough to engage deeper on. FF, FC, blogs, etc are the place to go deeper into the conversation. If you buy off on that, then the math comes into play,Twitter is the grand... more... - Robert Wilkins

Oprah, by the way, has 1,619,000 on Twitter and 760,000 on Facebook. I wonder how many followers Oprah was gifted by being on the recommended follower list, but you can see why Twitter is doing this. The higher Oprah's numbers are on Twitter the cooler Twitter seems and the more hype it gets and the more celebrities want to chase Oprah, even if they are for fake followers who don't mean that much. Brilliant strategy on Twitter's part. - Robert Scoble

yea, oprah=cool. you toting your camera maybe not so much to mainstream, glad to see the new hulk photo ;-) - Lane Rapp

Lane: Oprah is cool? Have you seen her Tweets? Not cool at all. - Robert Scoble

I have very different uses for each: Twitter, Facebook, FriendFeed... - Kelly A Nelson

Robert, Oprah's tweets are indeed superficial. Totally not engaged. She would do well to use twitter to engage both her audience and her causes between seasons. My joke was framed sarcastically enuff, but was to support your entire discussion here, that the SUL is rigged for twitter and celeb marketing. - Lane Rapp

Meh. all these celebs taking twitter away from us geeks :( its ours :( - Mark

Ellen Degeneres does a good job in my opinion - Lane Rapp

Mark, give twitter to the masses, sometimes I get the feeling FF wants to remain a niche. I can't say I would be disappointed as long as the lights stay on. We can contribute like we do on NPR. - Lane Rapp

Lane: they said that about Twitter two years ago. The thing is here that FriendFeed has nooks and crannies that can let us hide from the masses a lot better than we can hide on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

Beth, I think the difference between Twitter and FF is two fold, compounded and a big indicator as to why Robert may fair so much better here and FB. Twitter simplifies the competition (if there is such a thing, though people perceive it's real, so it is). It's all about followers and extremely competitive to gain them. FriendFeed is culturally different, and conversational. This kind... more... - Jason Nunnelley

Yes we can hide away in little corners, and even go private rooms if we want a little insider chat. Friendfeed is our underground movement! - Mark

Something Robert has done that works best in more conversational SM is brand himself as an all around cool guy. He's not "Robert Scoble the tech guru." Mashable and Techcrunch are very limited in their scope, so readers are likely to read their blip about their preferred technology and move on. Robert engages his readers on a multitude of topics, much more conversational. He'll actually... more... - Jason Nunnelley

Robert, thanks I'll do my part to welcome the masses while I learn more about the nooks and crannies. I noticed how all the FF user help rooms are active, but the Facebook user groups have limited discussion. - Lane Rapp

Lane (WARNING: shameless promotion) I'd be happy to host more conversations in newb regarding Facebook if you like, post tutorials, videos, etc. Are you more often a question source or an answer source? <edit> Meaning, I'd like to have someone else post help there if I start pushing my readers to the group. - Jason Nunnelley

Anyone heard any news about new friendfeed features? Sure would be cool to be able to post images and things in the discussion thread. - Mark

I hate to hit and run, but 90% of the people I follow I follow because I've seen them say interesting things and participate here. - Steve Lowe

Steve, why is that Hit and Run? - Jason Nunnelley

Is the FriendFeed back-end on Scala already? :) - The Pageman

Jason, I'd like that and think the rural, the elder, the poor, the disabled, and much of africa who get better high speed net access will as well. As fast as these platforms are growing the users have to help out with the concierge desk. I've got questions and I'm still newb enuff to answer some with empathy - Lane Rapp

Lower counts on friendfeed IMHO is due to the fact FF lacks the sexyness of Facebook. The FF User Interface is cleaner, simpler but lacks eye candy, of the FB I do think UI is better than Twitter, but lacks the 3rd party apps which promote usage. The 2 ff aps on the iPhone are #horriblizers ( original word from @lovinkat) - derikp

If more people used clients that don't require following people to group them and/or see their tweets, the followers would n't be half as relevant on Twitter. I converse with lots of people I don't follow on facebook and FriendFeed. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Robert, the bottom line is people follow people for three reasons: content, content and content. The question is what difference does the SUL on Twitter make if most people just ignore boring content and move on? - Jason Nunnelley

My mom joined Twitter today (that tells me its not Myspace, so much for my original thesis) but she didn't necessarily want to follow this suggested list, but from talking to her, it sounded like it was "fostered" onto her. I don't know what the steps look like since I joined a long time ago, but it sounds like for a newbie you are pretty much going to auto follow these people - Stephen Pickering

I have more friends/followers on Friendfeed than I do on any other site - Joe Dawson

the followers picked up from SUL are folks who are getting started -- it's like the old PCH magazine subs: renewals and engagemt were horrible but the audience inflation paid back in ad dollars. The social web is about "finding" an audience, just like the old days before you could use web clout to open the spigot and drive a massive audience. The SUL is a Web 1.0 artifact, like cutting... more... - Dan McCarthy from BuddyFeed

Robert, et al: There was some important information shared in this thread yesterday, and I've put a lot of it together in a post for Twittercism, focusing on comparisons between the follower counts of Tim, Robert and iJustine. Appreciate your thoughts. Cheers. http://twittercism.com/suggest... - Shéa Bennett

isn't 10000 followers on friendfeed just about the same percentage of the community as 600000 on twitter? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Stephen, you have to unclick the people you don't want to follow in the SUL. - Jason Nunnelley

Great thread. Thanks Robert. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

Thanks for sharing - great info Robert!! - Laurie DesAutels

If what you say is true, then the terms need to be changed. As for them not transferring to any other social network, why is that even necessary? There's a great study out there that states 90% of your network will be lurkers anyway. You'll never know that they exist, however, it's still comforting to know they're there.... - Mike Shields

Robert: Now that you mention it, I will tell them about FriendFeed. - Beth Kanter

Robert: I hate it when there's a "food fight" over ideas. Please remember that Twitter is still trying to find a business model. These $100,000 gifts are basically Calacanis "Bucks"... you can't actually buy anything with them except the promise of VC investment. VC investment is simply mortgaging your future. - davem51

Was it wrong with Radio from UserLand had some suggested feeds to follow? No. It was a smart business idea and Adam Curry invested to get more readers. Smart attempt to save Userland from failing. - davem51

I met Tim O'Reilly in 1990 working the O'Reilly booth at Usenix. It was one of the most interesting conversations I have ever had at a conference... Tim knows how to present idea but more importantly he has the biggest ears in tech. He's got an Open Source Mind. - davem51

am i on twittr? - j edmonds

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53% of my 96,000 followers don't follow directions. They are useless. The others will discuss this on FriendFeed here:

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you mean like so? :) - Iwan

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huh? - Rasmus Lauridsen

:-) seriously, everyone wants followers but what good are they if they won't do anything you tell them to do? Useless! - Robert Scoble

hahah that is soo funny - Susan Beebe

yet sooo true. wondering just how long until people figure it out - Susan Beebe

huh? - Gabriel

is this a timed challenge? - Iwan

Hmmm... - Adam

Literally LOLing at this, Robert. - ha3rvey (wants confit)

Yes master... - Chris Forbes

You're not the boss of me! :) - jcunwired

i'm not sure what you mean ;) - Suzannah Archibald

I want to know how many of them consider themselves social media experts? - Colin Anawaty

bit of a pompous mood today? when have you ever expected anyone to follow directions on the net? - Doubledown_inSL

I was lost when Robert was at the 140 conference - he wasn't active here so I didn't know what to read...haha - Mike Bracco

*looks around for FF koolaid* - Susan Beebe

Fine, so I am useless. - Julie Anderson

Getting people to follow directions on the internet is akin to herding cats. Best of luck. :) - Keith Bourgoin

Any reccomendations for friend feed convos on the iPhone? - Stuart Tracte

lol - Miguel Rodriguez

FF sux nardz - Doubledown_inSL

How could I defy the techno-hulk? - Amanda Magee

ahah, like most of the followers on twitter =) - Pierre TAMISIER

You are fired up today...you might want to switch to decaf. GOOD GODS, WHAT AM I SAYING. - M.L. Stone

but 47% of people go on FF? that is quite good - Billy Fung

So, 47% or your followers are expected to discuss here? The comment counter is going to explode. - Brome

http://friendfeed.com/iphone works well. At least, it works well on my Android - Keith Bourgoin

3% of Scobes followers are still trapped on Myspace - Doubledown_inSL

twitter wasn't an interactive medium was it? :P - jaspio

What? - fanch_guy

Kevin: only about 42,000 of my 96,000 followers are here. Useless! I think they are all spammers or bots. - Robert Scoble

I'm amazed how fast this thread is growing. - Nick Prince

You mean 95,999 followers. - Robert Peterson

Very clever. - Nicole

that mass growing of the thread would be the 47% who can follow instructions ;o) - Carl Grint

I keep having to block spammy, icky followers on twitter, mostly porn and get-rich schemers..augh! - Susan Beebe

I refuse to respond to such a claim! - Al Fuller

seriously, how much is FriendFeed paying you? - Greg Hollingsworth

"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11 - don manu

What am I not supposed to do? Where is the line? - Brian Goss

Spammers and bots eh? Great minds think alike? - ralphsaunders

What prize are you going to give your 100,000 follower? - Mike Bracco

Greg: I got a free t-shirt. - Robert Scoble

*reading and where is my popcorn? ;) ;)* - Ronald

LOL - Schneider Mike

Flame bater - Ron Hudson

promised to cure cancer at 100k - Doubledown_inSL

following on twitter AND NOT subscribing on FF = useless? - Alexei Zheglov

I won't comment this thread ;) - DAL

Does it count if I follow you on FF, but not twitter? - Keith Bourgoin

Spammers are everywhere though including here. - Brian Sullivan

@Doubledown_inSL Now that's funny. - Mike Dowden

Power is a double-edged sword, Robert...lol... can be tough to galvanize one's - Carol Lynn Martens

wow... think we could crash friendfeed with this thread? - Chip McComb

ROBERT! I sent you like 500 @ replies on twitter, wth aren't you replying? j/k - Justin Hopkins

I don't get it - Amelia Rangel

Do you want followers or slack-jawed lackys? - Mark Petzold

how many comments per minute will appear in average :D - Flavio

LOL @ Justin - Doubledown_inSL

Huh, what? Should I comment here? - Kandeezie

No one has to do anything anyone says/ - Paul Kinlan

let's see how 'stableizer' FF really runs *bumping up this thread *g* * - Ronald

No. I refuse to. But that doesn't make me useless. :-P - Ladybug Heather

show me a bridge - I'll jump after you! - BEX

FF is great, it just requires a higher level of interaction that many people don't have time for or interest in. - Stuart Tracte

new game: instead of "simon says" it is now "scoble says" - Chris Rogers

That's truth but I am one of the direcitons follower - Gent Thaqi

Just following instructions. - Larry Roth

Glad I caught this in my Twitter feed - I'd hate to be a bad directions-follower. - Shawn Farner

whatever you say - George Deane

^^ yeppers, i robot :D - Ronald

If you're happy and you follow (Scoble), clap your hands! - Carlos Granier-Phelps

I may of missed something, my bad.. - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Doh! Sorry, I clicked that link by accident - I'm in the 53%. As you were... - Andrew Jordan

Must do what Scoble says... Slow down comment box... forgot what this tread was about. - Drew S

/claps hands - George Deane

do what? - Mick

I agree that FF is better for tracking conversations, and hopefully @Twitter will get that. I still spend more time on Twitter - Matthew Scott Horbund

I follow directions but am often useless. Where do I fit? - Aaron Ball

53% your numbers are inaccurate. - Carlos Ayala

This should be interesting... - Robert Lee

YES O LORD AND MASTER, WHAT IS THY BIDDING :) - ftg888

wow, I'm not the only one who has no clue what's going on.. - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Grr... shouldn't have commented... Now I'll be getting IM updates forever!!!! - Carlos Granier-Phelps

I think this is just a psychology experiment... - Chip McComb

lol - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Commenting so as not to appear useless - Herb Hernandez

hahaha - Ronald

Carlos: lol - Larry Roth

what is actually ment by "directions"? - Clemsen

yes how is the number 53% found. - Daniel Graversen

as usual im in the minority (43%), Im never in the majority :( - George Deane

I hope you're wrong, Chip. Otherwise, you didn't see me here. - Shawn Farner

reporting for duty... - Todd Goldstein

baaaaah - mikepk

Scoble does have a lot of followers... - Sebastiaan van den Akker

I thought men were basically incapable of asking for directions, so why would they follow them? ;-) - Julie Bovee Hill

Robert, you are looking angry today. Take it easy, man! - Walter Lounsbery

d'oh! I meant 47% - George Deane

I am in building 44. Can you give me directions to 43? - David Connell

??? is this a test of the national broadcasting system? - Robert Wilkins

damn it scoble! get a real job! =) - Jonathan Crossland

Wow--never thought I'd wish for a "Don't Like" button or link, Robert! - Kathy Fitch

Robert's comments are very important particularly for political & development work. - Justin Long

Also important for business marketing. - Justin Long

U made me upset in first look then I realized what u mean and I found Im not not one of those. Hope you are not angry sir and wont fire me.. - Abhijeet Singh

I need a job like Scoble's... but in Miami. - Carlos Granier-Phelps

to comment or not to comment.... that is the question... - Kim

Are trending topics on friendfeed called "friending topics"? - Larry Roth

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) What was the question again? - don manu

hehehe... nice trick - Gustavo Munoz from twhirl

i think this thread goes 'epic' on FF ;) - Ronald

Robert, I'm up to the CHALLENGE of not being "useless." Actually, my business communication students at SFSU just heard my initial remarks which included THREE RULES FOR SUCCESS in BUSINESS [and everything else!] The rules: LISTEN CAREFULLY, READ CAREFULLY and FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS! - Shari Weiss

Apathy is the big killer of networks. - Justin Long

I'm here. That makes me not useless, I guess? - Celia

Robert Wilkins: it is my test to see how many spammers, bots, or jerks are following me. - Robert Scoble

I get alot of spam about sites who gives you followers, whats the point of the followers have no interresting to give to you? And whats most crap is that they have enabled auto-follow back.. grrr :P don't sign up on those sites people.! - Qbat

I like the constantly refreshed list but it doesn't half distract me from my own comment! - Joshua Davidson

hahahahaha, ok.. now I get it - Sebastiaan van den Akker

I Welcome our FF Overlords! - Al Fuller

Does this mean that you expect there to be 45,120 comments here? - Andrew Pass

I like Viagra. - Paul Puri

:-P - Lorenzo Strambi

a spammer... - Sebastiaan van den Akker

this is the only ff link of yours i followed. - moogs

You are usefull for us Robert =) - Qbat

I am getting a few new people to follow here, which is good! - Robert Scoble

Qbat aka Larsen: Agreed! - Larry Roth

I am not a bot! I am a free man! - Jeff Newfeld

Talking directions? - Sardar Mohkim Khan

i guess i've been lucky - i don't think i've seen any bots yet on FF (going now to check my short followers list) - Chris Rogers

Why do you think that people take the time to comment here? - Andrew Pass

This thread is like watching the real time web on steroids.I can't type fast enough to keep the comment box in view....yikes! - Dana Fosburgh

Robert - me too, thanks! :) - Susan Beebe

All you have to do is insult people and then they come :-) - George Deane

Notice how many of us follow when we are told we are not following. - Sandy McMerty

So, you're saying that people who don't use FF are spammers, bots or jerks ? - Djordje Lukic

So when you figure out how many there are, How are you going to auto filter them out? - Robert Wilkins

I read, I clicked, I arrived. I guess that means I'm not useless. - Mike

This comment intentionally left useless. - phil baumann

Seriously though let's not take the term 'followers' too literally. Just because I read a column doesn't mean I share the authors views. Just because you say lets discuss this on friendfeed doesn't mean I log onto FF and.......ah. OK....What is thy bidding?! - Joshua Davidson

You suck, man. I refuse to be a minion. Oh, wait... shit... - Joey Gibson

<Insert clever comment here.> - CAJ, somewhere else

Am I in the 53% or the 47%? - Tony Connor

What type of followers do you need Robert? Tell us and maybe we will try to be better. - Qbat

DeVries: oh, I understand. We need better notified control. - Robert Scoble

150th - Harscoat

Well, those who don't do what you tell them are actually more useful. No for you directly, but for the society. They mix your directions with their own to create new ones. - Kirill Petrovsky

Is this a roll call :) - Boon Kwee

i'm just commenting to hang with the cool kids - ukgrad98

^^ Nope 'happy hour' at Scoble's ;) ;) - Ronald

"Follower" is a weird term. "Watcher" may be better. Follower implies action and engagement, and anybody who's used social media for more than 20 minutes knows that just isn't true. - Jared Smith

Have I responded quick enough not to deemed useless. I feel a little baaaaa now. - Crispin Heath

Jared: bing! - Robert Scoble

So if you ever figure out how to deal with the bots and all the "I will teach you to make millions with Twitter" junk let us all know! - Marshall Huwe

you are talking about twitter, they would be useless but they are numbers and number always count. - Madhav Tripathi

If we need to use friendfeed to be useful, are there any clients or is it only the webinterface. - Daniel Graversen

Marshall: this is how. Bots and spammers don't get FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Daniel: what is wrong with the web? - Robert Scoble

inscribo ergo sum (I write therefore I am) - Jeff Newfeld

Nothing, just seem deficult to follow more threads. But that is probably not needed because the whole conversation is in once place. No need to multitask. - Daniel Graversen

is it just me or is the most used "plugin" on FriendFeed twitter? - Qbat

Actually, I find FriendFeed useless. I was reading an article about Twitter being useless, but the news get faster there. We'll have to say thanks to TwitScoop for that. - Dragos Pirvu

I never use FriendFeed. it just agregates all my other feeds into one feed. thats all :D - Zafarali

Dragos: wait until you compare search here to Twitter before calling it useless. Among other features. - Robert Scoble

No bot me, no. Count me out for that one. - Ton Zijp

dragos: all the news on Twitter is on FF, plus FF has better conversation - what do you think is missing? - Chris Rogers

FriendFeed enables comments on your tweets.! - Qbat

Robert Scoble: I think the proliferation of tools for Twitter let you slice and dice the data the way you want it and that is helpful to many. I do like the Web interface for FriendFeed, but imagine the possibilities that some cool tools could bring. No? - Larry Roth

So then we need someone in your vast network to write us a little app that will map the Twitter users who comment on FF and then block all the rest! Or at least create a "Real" Group in TweetDeck for me. - Marshall Huwe

You don't want followers, Robert—you want minions. I've got a few myself, and they're great. - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

ha! - Ned Baugh

there are SO MANY COMMENTS HERE - Zafarali

haha :) - Johnny from BuddyFeed

the best part is u can track em - Zafarali

Is this the way to San Jose? err ... I mean Friend Feed? - Tom Horn

Twitter should have a option that people who want's to follow you must write a small text for WHY you should let them follow you or the other way around - Qbat

Did you know that more than 90% of all statistics are made up? ;) - Tim Young

I'm getting tired of having to block the spam followers everyday. - Ron Hudson

Working on both FF and twitter - but FF is easier to follow comment threads - kathysd

What is interesting is I am already following most of the people who commented here which proves my point. - Robert Scoble

I was carefully looking at this list the other day http://spinn3r.com/rank... - turns out many people on it barely/if at all - use friendfeed. - Nir Ben Yona

Can you guys slow down - I can't keep up :( - Al Fuller

I think Twitter and FF provide different things and there is space on the internet for both :) - Tom Griffin

I've had friendfeed for quite a while, but I've not used it much, how do I expand this chat? - Ron Hudson

How does this post check for bots? - Amit Morson

Followers can not be useless. At least you can be proud of the sheer scale. And I believe, you don't want to have a conversation with thousands people at once. That would be truly useless. - Grigori Milov

I am here with you - I think it is that only half want to have a say. - Robert Freeze

On Twitter I talk strangers V on Friendfeed I am among friends - Asgeir

I'd like twitter to have a "report spam" button, this would avoid quite a lot of hassle... - don manu

Ron: just click on comments link under the topic - Qbat

ya like that! thanks. How do I do that? - Ron Hudson

Why is it important that followers comment & discuss U2, @Scobleizer? BC U R green? - Petter Griph

Amit: bots don't follow directions from people who are not their owners. No bots here. - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed should get a comment button under all the comments - Qbat

So, 47% will choose to do their own thing and not comment on here. Wait - what? Doh! And 65% won't read the comments that have already been made because there are already 'too many' :-D - Andy Bold

Qbat: click on the time under the post and open it in a new window - Robert Freeze

Andy: I'm in the 35% that read the comments. Didn't want my lame joke to be a REPEATED lame joke. :D - Tim Young

Robert Freeze: aaah.! Thank you =) - Qbat

Robert: unless perhaps the bot has directions to comment on every Scoble post? - Brian Sullivan

This reminds me of that "following directions" test from grade school. 1. Read all instructions before beginning. (2 -> N-1). Lots of crazy instructions which we all did. N. Don't do any of the previous instructions. Turn the page over, write your name, and wait. - Don Faulkner

Robert Freeze, that never worked for me - Amit Morson

Go watch Perez Hilton's video about being beaten up last night and going on techcrunch - Mark

time for a pint :-p - tony bland

Robert Freeze that worked. that should be labeled a bit better - Ron Hudson

Andy: I didn't tell you to read all the comments! :-) - Robert Scoble

If I reply here that I think it's less than 53% I may actually prove myself wrong. So be it. - Arnd Jan Gulmans

Should be a rewind and play button so you can play back all the comments.. like google wave - Qbat

Lots of users are already on the service but, under utilize it. Really still don't understand how powerful the service is or how to use the filtering system. - Eric Logan

And how many minutes/comments-in does the Scobalizer stop reading the comments? Opps, I just see that we are not supposed to "read" to comments...only discuss them. - Stephen Price

Thats cause they were busy seeing what I am doing!! LOL, your not the only person bossing people around. - T.S. Elliott

How big is the percentage of your followers that doesn't follow you? - Arnd Jan Gulmans

I love Friend Feed! - Robert Freeze

Click here for 101 ways to get rich ... Woooops, sorry wrong percentage group. - Chris Spencer

The reason I don't use friendfeed very much is because there is no SocialScope support on my blackberry. As soon as I can get a sweet blackberry app I'll be here more. - Ron Hudson

Now if I can just get my mom on here. http://www.building43.com/blogs... - Robert Freeze

I don't want to be in the wrong group. :P - Sheryl

Ron: http://fftogo.com - Tom Griffin

Tim: I'm a 65%er :) Though I am now in the 13.9% that skim comments to see what's going on. And also in the 29.4% of people managing to find replies to their comments in the Scobleflow. Definitely in the 100% of people wanting a Comment link at the end of each conversation since I moved back to Safari. Oh, and also in the 100% of people who take conversations off topic while making up statistics. - Andy Bold

Done, in. - Thom Kennon

Tom Griffin, I saw that, and it's "usable" but it's nowhere near the elegance and simplicity of say UberTwitter,SocialScope, or TweetGenious. I use SocialScope. It is an absolute Killer app. - Ron Hudson

Do I get partial credit for skimming the comments? No? Sorry, master. - malackey

Cool, so, I'm in the 47%, 35%, 29.4%, 100% and 100% ranges! I'm all over the place. Thanks Scoble and Andy for helping me learn something new about myself. - Tim Young

I see the "224 more comments" bit on FF and know I don't need to add another comment. Erm... - Ian Betteridge

FFtogo doesn't auto-refresh - Ron Hudson

To follow or not to follow, or to passive follow versus have an active conversation? - Peter Simoons

More stats: 41% will miss Robert's reply to them in the reply flood, 26% will see it and not answer, 22% will have ADD (the tech curse) and already be doing something else, and 1% will see the reply and see it as an excuse to make up some more statistics. (And reply that I definitely have not read all the comments ;-) ) - Andy Bold

It's all about the user experience though - it's easier to comment to someone's question on Twitter by quickly clicking @ than click a link through to FF, faff about sizing the screen on the screen to wait for the comments to load, read them and then post, so yeah, I can see why many respond on Twitter than FF. I'm doing that more myself as currently very busy with work projects. This... more... - Sally Church

And, somewhere in the horde, somebody will belatedly realise that he somehow manages to fall into Robert Scoble's "useful" list. Darn it - will need to post more signal and less noise now! ;) - Andy Bold

I refuse to fall prey to this ruse, Robert. Oh...wait... ;) - Robert J Taylor

I added you to my Live acct weeks ago. No reply. - Bret

I'm too sleepy to read all this right now. - Daniel Zarick

clever early morning link-bait - Jake Ludington

nice one :) you should do an NHST on that hahaha - The Pageman

They should change that from "followers" to something like "watchers" or "subscribers". As in "I have a subscription to the Scoble lifestream." - Steve Lynch from twhirl

discuss (Would hate to be useless) - Charlie Anzman

So is this a casual social experiment to determine rough percentages of active/rabid users who like to engage/participate with those they follow? - Eden Hensley

I completely agree! Unfortunately I might be considered part of that 53%! The only reason I am responding is because someone else I follow re-tweeted it. I personally have over 5000 followers but only regularly interact with 50 or so. Isn't Social Media about conversation and being engaging? Hmmm...... - Robert Dominguez

Robert: Very interesting experiment, one should use there own judgment over there (twitter) regarding bots and spammers. - Eran Even-Kesef

@Scoble: I'm listening. What are you going to say, or what did I miss? - Jason Cronkhite from Alert Thingy

It is a direction. Anybody must walk all alone ... so, what is the point? - bishoph

same here, most people don't read - Michael Reese

Smile and wave boys, smile and wave:) - Rick Bucich

I too am tired of blocking spam followers on twitter... - W_B_K

great man！！no protect update.... and i just follow ..i 'd like be the unless fllower..lol~~ - HealingBrush

Not being a bot, I am compelled to follow directions. - Randall Fink

I am useless :-( - Andrew

Re blackberry access, try http://friendfeed.com/iPhone - it's supposed to look good on BB too - Andy Bold from email

Andy Bold, I played with iPhone page too, but it's just a pain to have to open the browser. The blackberry environment is all about easy simple communication. If I have to jump through hoops it breaks down. Not to mention a friend feed experience without push is not a friendfeed experience.\ - Ron Hudson

99% of your followers will not read the 250 comments proceeding this one, and I am one of those 99% - Steve C

That'll teach me for ignoring Twitter for a few minutes a couple of hours ago! Late as usual. - Graham Stewart

Hey, much better here! Twitter sux.... after getting locked out of @freddavis for months with NO reply from Twitter, even after you tweeted @ev and @biz (thanks!)... so I my new Twitter name is @fucktwtr ... but much better to use FriendFeed! - Fred Davis

I almost thought that you have a big ego. :) - Shuuro

followers are for cults. twitter should change to readers/reading, because at the end of the day this is all about reading - Jim Posner

Adding my opinion to the rollcall, though I've just realized that i actually have no opinion on this. - Chris Foley

Clever. :-) - Patrick Ward

To much noise, the good data is lost. - Adam Mesenbrink

Yes to much noice. Maybe a way to mark comments as good could be a way to filter the comments. - Daniel Graversen

Adam, I think that's a limitation with the threaded discussion model of FriendFeed - it becomes very, very difficult to follow a conversation once it goes beyond a hundred or so comments. Of course, Scoble will come up with a search filter which makes it easy in about three comments from now, just to prove I'm wrong... :) - Ian Betteridge

I didn't realize followers were supposed to do what their followees said. Does that mean I have to open those links to help me make money on twitter? I was just using it for communication. Silly me. - RobinDotNet

Robin: communication takes someone on the other side listening and talking back. - Robert Scoble

Useless to YOU, perhaps. I'll bet they are getting value from the info you rpovide. Social media doesn't have to be about communication, it can be about "transmitting information" or some other morer restrcitive definition of what goes on. Some people just like to listen! - Jim Tierney

Useful post :) - Krishnamoorthy

Agreed! There are those like me who sit in shadows, read and do not comment... oh wait, crap! - Danny F Santos

Talking back is definitely good, but I'm still not clicking on those links telling me I can make money on twitter. I do talk back to people (as evidenced here). :-) So you have a lot of followers who don't. Do they even tweet? Can anyone explain why people join twitter and don't tweet? - RobinDotNet

Jim: I'm not a broadcast, though. Are people who just consume really useful? - Robert Scoble

And BTW, if you don't realize the value your personal brand gets from having those 48,000 followers whether they reply back or not, you're missing something! - Jim Tierney

Robin: people are used to consuming info and not talking back. I understand that. Jim: there is some value in having lots of consumers, yes. I just aspire to more. - Robert Scoble

lucky you that non all of them have an active role in your FF... how can you think of have an interaction wth so many people? - Paolo Galli from IM

I think you math is waaaaaaaay off. Looks like somewhere around 0.3125%(300/96,000 - rounding up) of your followers are useful, meaning you should edit your comment to say 99.7% of your followers. Really makes me wonder the true value of twitter if one of the top uses gets this percentage of useful following. The other possibility is that as followers increase, the percentage of attentive/usefull/whatever-you-want-to-call-it decreases. - Robert D. Fraser

Paolo: I've had interactions with tens of thousands of people here on friendfeed, just not all at the same time. Robert: you're right. :-) - Robert Scoble

Do you think those non-tweeting-twitterers sit at their desk and read all the tweets coming across? Or are they looking for something specific. - RobinDotNet

Scoble: You are asking questions and experimenting with stuff that I find interesting. Just reading through this thread provides some interesting insights into users' perspectives on Twitter. - Matthew Schrock

Is that southeastweb thing from a bot or some kind? - RobinDotNet

Robin: I think it's a spammer. But at least it's a spammer that follows directions. That said I think I'm going to block it. - Robert Scoble

Blocked. - Robert Scoble

Scoble you really can do it? I'm very impressed :) I'm jocking... I think many users on the web just read information but doesn't partecipate... it's to difficult ;) - Paolo Galli from IM

97.2% of all statistics are made up. - Jason A. Nunnelley

Tekany: and the statistics that aren't made up can mislead. :-) - Robert Scoble

Seeing a spammer blocked just makes me feel warm all over. It's so awesome. - RobinDotNet

I am exceptionally useless. - Geoff Schultz

Geoff: that's why I follow you! :-) - Robert Scoble

Following instructions is way overrated - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

That's what I'll have on my next business card: Scoble found me useful, what about you ? - Antoine Bertier

RTFM or GTFO said the BOFH. - Jon Winters

I like threads like this. As well as pointing out who it may be useful for me to subscribe, that I haven't already, you get the occasional comment that allows you to increase your "People blocked" count by 100%... - Andy Bold from email

Although at this point I would welcome someone giving me instructions as to the next steps in life - far too many options. Maybe I should crowdsource it, but I am certain not to like the results - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Robert: To be honest, I think sometimes folks are intimidated by the breadth of knowledge that you and others on FF seem to have and your ability to engage in discussions. They may feel that they need to say something 'brilliant' or not say anything. I will admit that that I fell into that category up until recently. To your (and others') credit, once I took the plunge I found that this wasn't the case. You guys still know WAY more than I do, but that's one of the reasons I'm here - to learn! - Alex Hellstrom

@scobleizer you crack me up sometimes! There, see this post went to you in both places... But I don't really feel like discussing it... ;-P - Walt Ruppar

Walt: heh. - Robert Scoble

LOL! Great job of being satirical! You have a lot of great followers. :) - James Stratford

Just sayin I could follow directions and discuss here if I wanted, but not interested in this discussion. However it did make me laugh that you called 53% of your followers out on not being able to follow directions. - Walt Ruppar

Alex, uhm like totally and stuff ... and uhm. Ya know. Cool. - Jason Nunnelley

BTW: where'd you see my reply come in from first? FF or as a mention over on twiiter? - Walt Ruppar

Walt: here on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

Robert, you dropped your twitter response button. Makes sense, but was it purely to reduce redundancy? - Jason Nunnelley

viewing people as "useful" is problematic..useful to who?..tools are "useful'...people not so much...helpful may be a more precise word. - Jim Posner

Jim, wordsmith! - Jason Nunnelley

Hi - Tyler (Chacha)

.LOLz...great thread! - .LAG liked that

Twitter to me seems a big mess of information, I can't keep up with it! FF sorts the mess out nicely and without the spam. I much prefer FF. - Matthew Davis

Jim: you're right of course. I was just trying to be an egotistical bbbaaaahhhhssssttttaaaarrrrrdddd to get a conversation going. Jason: what did I drop? I didn't do it on purpose. - Robert Scoble

Damn it Robert, you got me to make an account here three days ago, what more can I do for you? ;-P - Shane Trammell

Robert, you are smart - Arvind

This is an easy way to get rid of bots. They don't have anything intelligent to share (like me)! - Carlton Prest

WTG sheeple for getting conned into commenting here... wait. um. - Scott Breakall

Robert, what if people want to reply and be engaging but don't feel like they have anything of value to say / to add to the discussion? - Wang Yip

Scott: Perhaps, but at least I un-liked it... - Walt Ruppar

Robert - what is the point of this? I took carrot... - Liza

Robert, I just put the lime in the coconut. Now what? - Sue Radd

Robert-Great discussion at 140, BTW. On another topic just watched the Perez Hilton video and trying to get my head around that rant..if you haven't seen it you should watch both sides of the feud with will.i.am. Interesting use of twitter and video to address insult/outrage. - Jim Posner

Sue, like it. - Liza

Yahoo Inbox: 178 messages. 132 are notifications of new comments here. Good job. :) - Tim Young

Ok now I "get" this FriendFeed experience. - Ron Hudson

lots of people commenting here--I wonder if it has to do with the time of day more than the topic - Brent R Jones

I have a fear of being useless. - Ron Wening

I hope I'm not within the 53% - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

I follow Mr. Scoble, but I feel no particular obligation to be useful to him for anything. - Pat Rice from twhirl

Twitter rocks, but I'm starting to see more value in FriendFeed - Adam

I just drove from Pierre SD to Fort Totten ND, so I'm a little bit groggy. What exactly was I supposed to do to pass Robert Scoble's version of a Turing Test? Also, is it really important that people think I'm not a bot? I bet there is still money in AI. - Matthew McCowan

Is that percentage of useless followers greater or less on Twitter. (I think I can predict your answer!) - Curt Mercadante

"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member." - jacek

This thread is taking me a long time to read when I haven't had coffee yet today. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

So, my understanding is.. one who doesn't give 'directions' to his followers is useless too. Mmhhh! yeah - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Robert - there's nothing egotistical about it! I'd also be remiss if I didn't add that I get plenty of thought-provoking value from you even when in "read-only" mode. Understandably my usefulness to you is nil in those cases. However (and I'm echoing at least one other commenter here: IRONY ALERT) I've found that by the time I comment in this type of thread, my exact thoughts have... more... - Jim Tierney

I just hope Scobleizer never directs me to do something self-destructive. I hate it when that happens. - DGentry

I don't think lurker are useless :), I don't think number of followers have a great significance, Friendfeed is a Virtual Life Streaming, and in virtual life (as in real life) some people don't have a direction, they live (however i prefer LIVE with all capital letters, and have a direction!!!). - CantorJF

90% of community members lurk. - l0ckergn0me

Twitter has become useless for any sort of participation - Jorge Escobar

Really, you Are scaring - Eta from Nambu

here. - metalerik

Yay for the other 47%. - Colette

Does this post count as "discussing?" - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J

So if we post here, are we teacher's pets? :) - Daynah

Members of the "TV Generation" are just not used to follow directions... (they sit and consume with chips&beer and maybe do some shopping via telephone - these are a well trained habits and hard to change)... - Arne Krueger

I thought I'd contribute further to this discussion... you're welcome. - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J

I'm jumping up for another cup of tea, be right back... - Deborah E. Bifulco

There clearly comes a point of scale where FriendFeed fails to delivery clarity...nothing useful on the first screenful or last... does that mean that 47% of your followers are unable to provide significant value? - David Race

Will there be and end of this direction? Do we want to close directions? I think somewhen even directions become useless - Vedran Rudelj

delivering significant value to ff and/or the subscribers depends on the roi they get... some people are just not using it - as it is intendet to be used. so what!? - Arne Krueger

If technology fails you, next time you are in Memphis lets get together for lunch. Great value remains in human contact. - Jeff Milton

That is priceless - Keith - @tsudo

I am not a bot, I am huma ... wait, oh yeah, I am a bot .... never mind, back to being useless. - John

Bots are human too. - Thom Kennon

No one say anything useful, otherwise this will have meaning. - Liza from email

Liza: shhhh. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

I found this thread useful. - Mike Nencetti

Love these types of threads - quite enjoyable! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Oh, yeah? - Baard @ Pixum

O Captain! My Captain! - Nicola Mattina

Commenting so I'm not included in the useless category... Also, I'd love to chat about this the next time you're around the FF office. - Ross Miller

There are 3 kinds of people in the world: 1. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he doesn't act like he's too good to talk to us. 2. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he is known to follow everyone back, and therefore he is good for "inflating" their follower count. 3. Those who have no idea why they are following Robert Scoble. - April Russo (app103)

4th type of person follows for great feeds that generate discussion on FF. - Mike Nencetti

April, you forgot the fourth category: 4. Those who don't subscribe to Robert Scoble but find far too many of his posts liked and commented by their friends. - Scott of Two Countries

But the only reason why Robert generates great discussions is because he is part of that discussion. He doesn't just drop & run, or only talk to people he thinks are "somebody", completely ignoring the rest of us. While he may have a big ego, it isn't so big that he thinks he's too good to have a real conversation with us. - April Russo (app103)

53%? That seems a generous estimate. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Rob: I have almost 42,000 followers here and 96,000 followers on Twitter, which comes out to 43%. Glad someone caught me on my math! :-) - Robert Scoble

My casual research indicates about 1% will respond. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I can't put my finger on it, but I feel somehow manipulated...? - Mark "Mr Bolivious" J

even if they don't respond there is something to be said about passive observing- no? - michael sean wright

You call this a discussion? - Phil Boiarski

Phil: this is not a discussion. It's a lot of people following directions. :-) - Robert Scoble

Hi Robert, nice experiment! - Luis Enrique León

Aye aye Cap'n Scoble. Sorry I'm late but I just got done eating a plate of waffles in some diner in midtown NYC... - Aaron Strout

53% of your followers aren't followers in the sheep sense. That's a good thing. Lose the other 47% - C. K. Sample III

C. K. why must you self loathe on my thread? - Robert Scoble

I feel kind of funny. - Mike Nayyar

It's not easy being part of the 47% - Aidan Mann

I am not a sheep! Oh wait, maybe I am. - adam garrett

RS - The puppet master : ) - Mark Harai

I feel compelled to comment here... odd - Jan Ole Peek

Mark: who is the puppet master and who is the puppet? I'm answering you now. - Robert Scoble

Just following directions. Too many Mark's here though, I wish FF signed thing with our usernames. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

You can change your display name any time by clicking on your name in the top right corner. - Mark

Robert: communication still occurs when unidirectional, surely the works of Socrates convey concepts to readers even today? - Mike Chelen

Wow! It wasn't till I finished reading through almost all the comments that I got what Robert was trying to say :) FF good, Twitter bad. But I can't complain since it was Leo Laportes constant references to FF that got me to join and Roberts comments that got me to try and really understand what FF is all about. Initially FF was a little overwhelming and the only reason I've stuck it through so far is because of the higher quality of content for a (mostly) passive FFer. - Anant Gairola

Writing that last comment took me 10 minutes! Really really wish there was a good FF iPhone application!!! - Anant Gairola

Anant: the content here keeps getting better as more and more people join (which is quite a few every week lately, my numbers are going up much faster here than on Twitter, the tides are starting to move). - Robert Scoble

baa baa - Kim Landwehr

I'm sorry... did you say something? - Sean

You have no Idea how tempting it is to reshare this - and discuss it over there >>>>>>>>>> - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

No rain, no rainbows.. - BryanSchuetz

FF is the only place I can dip into your content 'at will', Twitter is to noisy and makes me dig a lot further to see the flow of conversation and any associated references. - Threepwood

I like to lurk most of the time. I usually don't have much to add by the time I am able to read the whole thread. - Dan Douglass from Nambu

I'm with Dan (above). - Miss Elle from fftogo

Better late than never! - John Rubier

tag - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Testing the maximum for FF comments? :P - Barbara

Are you happy with how friendfeed is developing? What would you change, if you were in control? I love the daily digests, I prefer something filtering the best content from those I follow - Ryan Singer

first post... wait. - Aaron Baer

following........ - sirishkumar

amazing post. - Guy Vander Heyden

Suivez moi? - Gordon Joly

Oui, monsieur Gordon ! Où allons nous ? - Brome

<----- not a bot so what percent does that make me? - Howell Selburn from BuddyFeed

bleet bleet - Sriks7

Master is our friend! - Rick Cogley

Adding myself to the list :) - TiTi

Why a follower must follow direction? :) - Christine Yang from BuddyFeed

Lead, follow or whatever...Info on Neda http://tinyurl.com/nm9xdn - JoWazzoo

:) - Tony

This is a wicked and interesting post on FriendFeed =) - Qbat

by the way some of my twitter followers complain that, like you, I redirect them to friendfeed on every post there. Some say I have to choose between the two and they will follow me there, but not on both services. - Kostantinos Koukopoulos

Kostantinos: it's an open question how best to interconnect FF and Twitter. remember that there are a wide range of options, including sending comments or posts, and sending posts automatically or manually. the feedback from readers is helpful if it can be used to find the right balance - Mike Chelen

53% of your followers will leave you and then what? insult the other 47%. You can't just say it that way. You need to treat your followers with respect. Especially when you are your biggest fan. People will leave you in a heartbeat. - Jack Scalfani

Be a nice little follower, and drink the damn kool-aid! - James

Robert Scoble

Friendfeed'ers STAY TUNED to http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... -- when I start my speech today I will ask the audience for something they would like to learn and YOU will teach them in real time! I want them to see the power of interacting with a crowd in live time and will put you up on screen. My speech starts at 4:20 p.m. Eastern Time.

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This should be a fun experiment. 300 eLearning pros are here in Virginia and will be watching/participating. - Robert Scoble

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Standing by... - Paul T Maurer

Paul: cool. It's about 45 minutes from now. - Robert Scoble

meaning in minutes from now? - Adri Munier

Hello from Richmond, VA! - Mike Lewis

Adri: yeah, as I post this comment it's 3:41. I'm on stage at 4:20 (or possibly later, if it's like most conferences and running behind at the end of the day a few minutes). - Robert Scoble

Hope it's easy questions. ;-p - ronin

i'll be waiting, thx! - Adri Munier

Yes, boss. - Louis Gray

So, that's just 9 minutes to go. Back from work in time. - Ton Zijp

Rodger that... - Ross Miller

OK ITS 4,18edt .. SO WHATS THE QUESTION ? - Peter Dawson

Peter: I'm just about to start, coming shortly. - Robert Scoble

COOL! this is a brilliant idea scoble.. most people dont really understand how useful social media can be.. u rock for helping ppl see! - Jason Pollock

Here as a virtual particpant. Hey Robert, anyone doing a QIK livestream to watch along? - Ken Camp

hehehe..we should all comment on every other item of scobles. rather then the questions that he ask at this speech.. why ?? the one last commented on ..will bubble up to the top.. and the question will buried at the bottom !! - dirty me..me bad !! LOL - Peter Dawson

What's my pay for this? - Steve C

Robert, I'm from Rome, Italy, I'd be glad if I could give a helping hand - Simone Tedeschi

Obama's was better :) - Sean Alexander

Benjamin Golub

Thanks for the free business cards Google. I'll probably never use them (I don't think I've handed out a FriendFeed card yet) but they are nice

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Benjamin, I want one of your FriendFeed cards. If we ever meet please save one for me. :-) - Jesse Stay

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♥ em! - AJ Batac

Pls send to Pat O'Mahony, 1506 Versailles Drive, Richardson, Tx. 75081 USA - pomahony2

there are friendfeed cards? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Sorry to confuse you Joelle: I work at FriendFeed. - Benjamin Golub

Benjamin, can you authorize a "misprinted" card with my info on it? - Amber, Random Time Lord

I have to admit, they look a lot better than the highly compressed dynamic image that was being displayed for the promotion! BTW, is that card on the right your FriendFeed business card or the reverse of the Google one? - Tony Ruscoe

Tony: The right is the reverse of my FriendFeed business card (the front has my phone number on it :P). The reverse of the Google cards are blank. - Benjamin Golub

lucky you - and clueless of me :) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Got mine today. Underwhelmed but they were free and will be fun to give to people while saying I have a new job and here's how to reach me. :D - CAJ, somewhere else

hey those look sharp!! love 'em!! - Susan Beebe

When was this promotion? sounds like i missed the boat haha - Frankie Warren

Oooo seeing those two together has given me an idea. To Moo! - EricaJoy

the friendfeed one is way cooler ... - Laura Norvig

yeah, the ff cards are indeed slicker. - Brett Kelly

One of my ex-managers suggested I use old business cards for grocery lists or other sticky note-ish things; at least that way you can get some use before you recycle them. - Muneer Mirza

I still never got a Google biz card - Outsanity

mine should be here in a day or two. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Got mine a day or two ago, very nice cards. Maybe I'll get a chance to use them sometime. - Grant Bierman

I got a set of Google cards myself. Kind of a cool idea, but I don't think I'll ever hand them out myself. - Hunt

I got mine as well - Kreg Steppe

I got mine too. Look cool, but looks like I work for Google. I bet I could pass them off to an unsuspecting person and say "I work for Google." - Robert Scoble

no google cards for european citizens? - Dani Martínez

I was going to get some but I had just ordered my KangarooBox business cards and didn't want to take someone's possible goodies. :) - Richard Hurt

I hand out Moo cards on the street all the time. People love them. - Thomas Hawk

Have to consider this "street thing".... Is this like "going out"? ;)) - Dieter Schwarz

Mine are printed 'Your Name Here' on the cards, but with the correct name on the mailing envelope. Fun. And prophetic. - A Mitchell

I haven't received mine yet - Brian J King from twhirl

tap tap tap tap tap....oh yeah "Snail" mail....gonna be escargot mail when I'm done ;-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I have yet to receive mine which are being delivered to the Gplex. :( - EricaJoy

Agreed on the will never use them - in hindsight should have passed but my inner-geek insisted I order 'em. - gregory leff from fftogo

Hey, you can always use them to enter free food contests at restaurants! Just drop the card in the fishbowl for a free meal. :) - Richard Hurt

It's only a matter of time before someone uses these to pick up women in a bar... stay tuned... - paula gould

How do people go about getting these? Both are great for networking events. [UPDATE #1] A quick on search Google points me here: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009... I guess I need to finish filling out my profile so I can take advantage of the offer. [UPDATE #2] It looks like all the free cards have been given away. I finished completing my profile and there's no link to a free business card :( - Alexander Grundner

Wow those are nice. - Shawn Chen

Alexander: http://tinyurl.com/om8evd Forgive me but I don't recall the exact link or method - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: The link was http://www.google.com/profile... - Alexander Grundner

I'm anxiously awaiting my Google cards. Not sure who I'll give them to yet. Maybe relatives? LOL - Mike Templeton

Nice friendfeed business card! I don't think I'm allowed to talk about the google cards <_< >_> - Nate

Alexander: You know I was just dying to use the lmgtfy for something today. no snark intended ;-) I just love that site. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: No worries. I can appreciate it now that know what Imgtfy is. I might have to use that on someone ;) - Alexander Grundner

I don't have one of your business cards! Bring me one when you come visit. Please and thank you :) - Marci Golub

Noah David Simon

Internet Google PR - http://simonstudiotheatre.blogspot.com/2009...

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problem is the media isn't companies anymore and exists in more of a diffuse system. How many in the twitter Alist were taking Saud and Beijing money? This is the era of public relations. There is no company to follow the money trail with beyond "TimeWarner". The pattern of this will continue to an extreme. "Pipeline Corporations" will be getting a lot more savvy about getting involved in editorial. In a few years who will we be able to trace the funds to? If you thought ACORN was bad... it is just the beginning. We lost this election because we were confused into thinking who the American voices were. They certainly weren't getting the exposure on twitter because the local infrastructure was not developed. - Noah David Simon

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Well, unless you are wiling to sell your soul like Dave Winer and Loren Feldman you will not get respect or a job from Obama world.Requirements for the job are to fuck your own Jewish people! And anyone else who Obama wants to bullshit to! ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

here in NY, my blood brother just blocked me on facebook because I posted the video with Jesse Jackson farting on his profile. He is dating this upper "east side trust fund girl" and her damn scene of actors and snobs. Free Rent for my brother! I'm all alone. I already am the crazy loon with the typewriter... I just have an internet connection. I live in my parents attic and I'm not... more... - Noah David Simon

I think that is a healthy foundation to being a huge bullshit artist. The first part of surviving is by realizing that everyone is lying. when that happens then you don't get upset anymore. It is just business. All these convenient arbitrary truths are really just a good way to justify being unethical. So I assume within a short time... (hopefully) I will. my brother is a natural liar.... more... - Noah David Simon

Well stop being Jack Kerouac or Hunter S. Thompson and go Blow Obama. I am sure he will give you a job to fuck the fellow Jews! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

lovely language Mr. Troll. I'm trying to do some serious soul searching and you are making my ass sore - Noah David Simon

I heard Obama is extra big and large. U may need lots of vaseline if you plan to be his Token Jew! U will need to compete with Rahm Emanuel. Obama likes to do it rough! LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

I'm willing to bet Obama ain't so big. I'm not afraid to look at nude bodies Igor. I had to draw a lot of people in college in the nude. That whole thing about black dudes having large willies is not true at all. The is correlation between large penises and masculine features... and Obama strikes me as a winy girly man. - Noah David Simon

boy talk about bad PR... this conversation is crap - Noah David Simon

Well you know what is crap, is Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the liberal wingnuts. They are in control, Obama is just a face for the public. I am glad Israel got Bibi or we would be up the shit creek without a paddle. All this will play out into Iran. - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Iran... these people online they think going to war with Iran is a joke. they think because they have Obama that we won't.... it was Clinton that set Iraq in motion in the same respect it was Kennedy who started Vietnam... and the Oliver Stones of the world say the oh so holy Kennedy would of changed his mind... ahem... conjecture. - Noah David Simon

Obama's "Intelligence". http://bombeh.neufblog.com/jgbh... Chas Freeman! - Noah David Simon

in the 80s and 90s no one was paying attention to the politics of Tech Schools, but the powers that be of the future will be decided by them. Harvard, Yale and Princeton don't matter as much as CMU, MIT, CalTech. no one in the 80s and 90s was paying attention to the politics of Tech Schools, but the powers that be of the future will be decided by them. Harvard, Yale and Princeton don't matter as much as CMU, MIT, CalTech - Noah David Simon

Mark Harai

"Bio Characteristics of Twitter Power Users" http://blog.hubspot.com/blog...

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Micro Persuasion: Twitter Search Traffic Poised to Eclipse Google Blog Search - http://www.micropersuasion.com/2009...

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Yes, CEOs Should Facebook And Twitter - Forbes.com - http://www.forbes.com/2009...

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How to Twitter - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...

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Dave Winer

Shirky helped them promulgate the "You'll miss us when we're gone," rap. That's why the press is eating it up. But Shirky is wrong.

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Robert Scoble

Robert and Rocky ride again at Rackspace - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

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"Engago: the business model is to get more businesses doing more things on the Internet. If we succeed in that then everyone gets more business, including Rackspace, which will win its share of Internet hosting competitions." - Robert Scoble

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congrats on being together as a team ... I couldnt imagine working without my firehall buddies .. we've been together so long .. it just works .. its called Chemistry - johnpiercy

Robert, I thought it was a good idea, when you did your videos in 1080p. I watched them partly just because the resolution was so high. Encourage everyone to push the envelope! - David Lynch

David: we got really nice equipment again, so we'll be pushing resolution again. That's one reason I'm excited to be going to Rackspace. They have a bit of bandwidth to use. :-) - Robert Scoble

Nic Brisbourne

RT @timoreilly: US mobile internet now one third to one half the size of desktop internet http://www.avc.com/a_vc... (via @fredwilson)

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Chris Abraham

While the bonuses make sense in terms of keeping good (the best) people, this is a hearts and minds war and perception is king at AIG now!

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Louis Gray

Loic Lemeur Explains the Future of Seesmic [sxsw] - http://www.inquisitr.com/20043...

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Maja Lamb

New Google Voice - Telecoms beware - http://sumosuccess.wordpress.com/2009...

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Louis Gray

The Guardian @ SXSWi: Secrets of the news aggregators - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media...

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"Author Louis Gray said we shouldn't think of one definitive source for links though. If the foundation is trust and recommendation, and tech tools are used to organise those, then the phone could be just as relevant as a source of information. "Finding information is different for each of us because we have different goals, so the key to information overload comes down to what is relevant for us," said Gray." - Louis Gray from Bookmarklet

guardian ha? not bad Louis, not bad :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Barry Brown

Live from SXSW: The future of news http://smartblogs.com/socialm...

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this is a TEST using pre-release test for TweetDec v0.24 w/facebook integration

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Steve Rubel

State of the News Media 2009 report is out http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2009...

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Cloud Computing’s Three-Horse Race - http://gigaom.com/2009...

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Matt Cutts

Friend: "Where should I put the comma in this case?" Me: "What is this for?" Friend: "A tweet." Me: "Oh. Do whatever you want then."

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Nooooo! The grammar... THE GRAMMARRR!!!!1!1@@!! - Daniel Bruce

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I follow the Picasso philosophy, with punctuation at least: if you know the correct way to do it, then you can choose to do it however you want. - Matt Cutts

Matt, I like that approach a lot! - Tony Ruscoe

if it's for a tweet, then it depends on if are under 140 characters or not! :) - Katy Barrilleaux

Unfortunately, with Matt's approach, there's no way of telling if anyone knows the correct way to do it because most people never do it the correct way. - Akiva Moskovitz

Hayk H.

GM More Open to Bankruptcy - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...

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"Top General Motors Corp. executives are more open to a speedy bankruptcy reorganization financed by the government, pushing aside earlier concern that such a move would scare away so many customers the company wouldn't survive, said a person familiar with the matter." - Hayk H. from Bookmarklet

I am wondering if this what both the Obama administration and GM had in mind all along? - Brian Sullivan

So, we couldn't do this in October, before we handed them $20 Squillion? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Susan Beebe

RT @acarvin: On The Media interview with new NPR CEO Vivian Schiller: http://www.onthemedia.org/transcr...

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RT @jeffisageek: BackTweets Searches What Twitter Can't: Short URLs http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...

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Love this from @virtualimpax When Someone Steals Your Branding http://virtualimpax.com/2009...

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10 Ways to Increase Your Twitter Followers! http://vizedu.com/2009...

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Former Apple employees start Apperian - http://www.9to5mac.com/apperia...

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